P o e t i c R e s p o n s e C o n t.
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 10:38:00 -0000
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Subject: Peter Do Not Delete (Was Re: List Poetry)I think T's eloquent words about degrading himself are a reason enough
in itself to stay on this list, and a quiet reproach and fit refutation of Jeremiad-tendencies, a
habit not unknown in the threatened tribe of cross-dressing poets, in their
shrinking forest.d
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:48:25 -0500
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From: J <anXXXXXXne@SXXXXXXT.COM>
Subject: Re: List RemovalPlease remove my real name from this list.
thank youJ
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:04:54 GMT
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From: s <XXX@DXXXIS.ORG.UK>
Subject: icebergpoetry mailing lists are usually dominated by a consensus.
"extremists" are "extremists" merely because they are not [perceived as]
part of the consensus."extremists" rarely act in concert - they rarely have a common cause
other than that which brings them to a list [in our case, and not
wishing to define proscriptively, "linguistically innovative" poetry].occasions _will_ arise when "extremists" who are not loners appear. if
those "extremists" have "credibility" then the consensus-moderated list
is in immediate danger of being split.i'd suggest that in future british-poets be described as "open, but
consensus-moderated" - it would decrease the likelihood of confusion and
bitterness of the type we've seen recently and in the past. and if
americans are not welcome then that too ought to be stated at the outset.regards, s
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 10:46:07 -0500
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From: "A" <abXXXall@IXXXE.COM>
Subject: listlistees,
it would seem we have stumbled into a room where we are not welcome, having
been quite clearly told that this is a place where our views, poetry and
presence are not allowed.
heaven forbid that we should stay in a space where we are not welcome as
publishers and writers of a poetry that is not welcome nor understood.
we will go ahead and unsub, so as not to rock your boat, or force you into
taking us off listtwo americans, going home,
a & b
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 09:59:13 -0800
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From: M W <juXXXXon@EARXXXXK.XXXT>
Subject: Re: iceberg
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I have a different, perhaps less provocative erotic fantasy life,
conventional soul that I am. All sex is in a sense performative, but
in a list dedicated to masturbation and discussion (that's the consensus) the
performative is decidedly secondary. If a member or members make it their
primary "THRUST" it's as if they had stood up to do a messy nipple- or a
foreskin- piercing in a restaurant or living room crowded with other people. The content is
less important than the act in such a situation. Amusing in theory (and in
theoretical spaces like movie musicals), but in actuality wears pretty thin
pretty fast. And either the morality squad is called or the putative audience
walks out.Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 07:38:32 +1100
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Subject: Re: backchannelJacques's and Kent's inability to see how insulting and aggressive
I can be was bizarre.Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 21:43:33 -0000
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Subject: Re: backchannelI think or rather hope it must be blatantly clear by now that I've authored a
little scenario in my head that has Jacques and Kent in collars, blindfolds,
and corsets that accentuate the fleshy curve of their buttocks whose faint
plant-like odor gradually overwhelms me.Please note this message is not scrawled across a torn-off pair of panties.
Nor is it a lament for Edenic days before my prostate operation.D
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 22:00:46 -0000
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And as a rider to my last, in case anyone from wherever considers recreating
a Snuff Movie, it can be said in defence of the Lacan messages that they
could be seen to have 'succeeded' by the measure of outcry they raised as
the messages themselves elicited from me the most bizarre, taboo, and
outrageous fantasies.Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 08:23:23 EST
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From: Jacques Debrot <JDEBROT@AOL.COM>
Subject: backchannelGoodbye British Poets,
Sister C likes to whip herself with knotted apron strings. She rebukes
temptation against chastity by lying naked on cuttings from her garden's
rosebushes. The dark thorns stick into skin red with infection. On her
heart she's tatooed a Sacred Heart with blue ink and a hairpin. Rabbit wire
tied just below her sex binds together her thighs. She and I are putting on
a play; the title of this scene is: "She Lost Her Sense of Humor."
Father D is punching himself in the head, sticking a finger up his ass,
or inside his stale mouth and with the same finger going through the motions
of shooting himself over and over again. Under his skin, he's an overheated
factory. He puts his mouth down on the labia of a toilet and humps cold
porcelain. The title of this scene is: "He Lost His Mind."Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 13:43:50 -0800
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Subject: Fw: addendumThis post of Jacques's sent to the Subsub List is worth passing on to us at
Brit Po. For our 'information':> D is not an attractive man and it is ludicrous to watch him wetting
down his t-shirt with stale beer on a bar counter in Alcapulco, Mexico, or
standing in front of a mirror, naked, bending and throwing his head back like
a horse bucking while he grinds his ass and thighs in a primitive dance.
>
> Kent
>
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:02:26 -0500
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From: C <mXXXrd@NXXXXR.COM>
Subject: Re: addendumGood idea to cross-post this item from Subsub, D. , as I think it's
probably not the only time you're going to want to behave like that.Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:38:04 -0800
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Subject: Re: addendumThere is a certain something in the air, true, C. Call it poison-gas.
I can't help having visions of Monty Python flying pirates at all this, but
I think the script's got garbled in extremis.d.
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 07:00:28 +1100
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From: mXXXXad@ONXXXXT.AU
Subject: Re: addendumO woe
When will the two headed beast work out that it wasn't the "epistolary
dialogue" themselves or even the tired jape of assumed persona which
intoxicated me? Is there any point in the seemingly pointless
repetition of this? Or will he, despite his four, six or fifteen ears,
remain insistently deaf, dominating my loins's imperious needs while I
frantically moan his 3 names into the water-soaked leather mask shrinking
into my face?A
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:55:24 +0000
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From: E <cXXXge@CXXXXXXA.CO.XXX>
Subject: british-poets list changesNew admission procedure.
As an experiment we have introduced a sex questionaire to the list, so that
new
applicants for membership will be greeted first by a randy listowner, who
will make sure they are aware of the list's general kinkiness, before
they are joined up.E
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:56:15 -0000
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From: L <lXXXXXXXon@BRXXXY.NET>
Subject: Re: british-poets list changesDear E
I have been out of the flat cruising bars and hustling for almost two weeks,
and running through the
accumulated email was often so EXCITINGGorgeous little boys playing dirty little games and thinking they're
wonderful because everyone is looking at them; and nothing one can say makes
any difference because they know how much they know; and they're so goddamn
HOT.I don't mind little boys as long as they don't keep it to themselves. All
power to those who keep getting some here, but I feel like someone who's been left out
in the cold. Another list I valued greatly has been destroyed by the same thing and it seems to be
happening here.If they don't put out, I fear the alternative is to chuck em off or lose my
mind and I know which I'd choose
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 18:51:37 GMT
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From: s <XXX@DXXXIS.ORG.UK>
Subject: Re: british-poets list changesi see constable upton is still allowed to say any damn thing he pleases
no matter how provocative.the voice of repression speaks and the new listowner thanks him for his
support.this all makes me **deeply ashamed** of being british.
s
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:37:13 -0000
From: E <cXXXge@CXXXXXXA.CO.XXX>
Subject: british-poets listDear Kent
We're suspending you from the list for a while. Let's see how things pan
out with your various current projects, and have a substantial
cooling-off period. If you're still interested later on, you can request
to rejoin. But leave it at least a month, I think.
E.
T.
P.
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:34:48 EST
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From: A H <JDXXXXXXXo@AXXCOM>
Subject: a vote of thanksTHANK YOU ! THANK YOU ! THANK YOU !
Ye
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