========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 02:03:15 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinksy Subject: Re: New Contemporary Reading Series in Lowell, Mass. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hey i wanna read in lowell too ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 02:27:38 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: ALDON L NIELSEN Subject: Oscar Brown, Jr. - R.I.P. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain not only a jazz friend to poets, but a poet -- Saw him around D.C. in my youth -- give a listen to the classics: Sin & Soul . . . And Then Some and Mr. Oscar Brown, Jr. Goes to Washington nobody could ever filibuster like Oscar -- I was just talking about his "What You Mean 'WE.' White Man?" a month back when a friend dug out the Dave Berg cartoon from Mad Magazine, 1958, on the same theme -- who would ever expect to see the bent mind of Dave Berg set to jazz? great work all around -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Breaking in bright Orthography . . ." --Emily Dickinson Aldon L. Nielsen Kelly Professor of American Literature The Pennsylvania State University 116 Burrowes University Park, PA 16802-6200 (814) 865-0091 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 01:41:02 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinksy Subject: Re: why poetry is eating itself alive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit tom did yer ego get in the way there? why if they're good should they be independent of yer ego and not i'm assuming when they're bad? good or bad the ones i hear you read seem to have been written by BUDDHA? ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 06:46:35 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Aaron Belz Subject: comedy and humor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear friends, Having heard nothing, I'll post this again --- I am looking for a theoretical text that deals with the difference between "humor" (Nash) and the "comic" (Stevens) in the 20th century. I am writing an essay about comedy theory that includes Bergson, Wyndham Lewis, and Breton, and I would like to begin by defining comedy as opposed to humor. Aaron Belz p.s. (by the way, wasn't there a time on this list when a post like this would receive three or four quick , incredibly helpful replies? Now it's like... announcement this... announcement that... Ah well, I'm not the most vital participant in List Mind, so who am I to judge?) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:30:35 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Halvard Johnson Subject: Re: comedy and humor In-Reply-To: <004f01c5669f$90e42070$230110ac@AaronDell> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe you should cast your query in the form of an announcement? Hal On Jun 1, 2005, at 7:46 AM, Aaron Belz wrote: > Dear friends, > > Having heard nothing, I'll post this again --- > > I am looking for a theoretical text that deals with the difference > between > "humor" (Nash) and the "comic" (Stevens) in the 20th century. I am > writing > an essay about comedy theory that includes Bergson, Wyndham Lewis, and > Breton, and I would like to begin by defining comedy as opposed to > humor. > > Aaron Belz > > > p.s. (by the way, wasn't there a time on this list when a post like > this > would receive three or four quick , incredibly helpful replies? Now > it's > like... announcement this... announcement that... Ah well, I'm not > the most > vital participant in List Mind, so who am I to judge?) > > Halvard Johnson halvard@earthlink.net halvard@gmail.com website: http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard blog: http://entropyandme.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 06:35:49 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Adam Fieled Subject: Open Invite T'Read @ Khyber (Philly) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On June 11, 1965, the first "Poetry Incarnation" @ London's Royal Albert Hall ("now they know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall...") saw Allen Ginsberg & Gregory Corso tear Swinging London apart. To mark the 40th anniversary of this event, the Philly Free School is putting on a reading July 5 @ the Khyber-- "Poetry Incarnation '05". We need YOU!!! We want POETS!!! All kinds!! Everyone!!! So this is an open invite to read. We have 5-6 hours to fill, need 40-50 poets, each to get roughly 10 minutes. You can respond to this e-mail, or reach Adam Fieled @ afieled@hotmail.com or (610) 608-2094 (yes, I do answer my cell). Should be a pretty good time. Come out & read!!!! Adam Fieled www.artrecess.blogspot.com www.jacketmagazine.com (#28) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 15:00:39 +0100 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Robin Hamilton Subject: Re: comedy and humor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Aaron Belz" > Wyndham Lewis Is that D.B. Wyndham Lewis or the Vortecist Apes of God man? The former would make more sense. (Sorry, no theoretical input to contribute.) Robin ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:15:55 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ben Basan Subject: Re: ubu wha? In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit This is disappointing news. I thought that perhaps UBU would have turned out a bit like an archive.org... I wonder what happened. Ben On 5/31/05 7:05 PM, "Kevin Hehir" wrote: > Is it true that Ubu is through? > > The home page mentions that will be hosted by a school but no longer > updated. > > Leave them always wanting more, I guess. > > Good luck and thanks ubu, > kevin > > -- > --------------------------------------------------- > http://nedaftersnowslides.com/ > Hypertext fiction by Don Austin ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 11:47:06 -0230 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kevin Hehir Subject: Re: comedy and humor In-Reply-To: <1f90c71356dd9fb8f1109ab845821426@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII actually aaron, being in canada, i'm more comfortable commenting on humour but I think that you might want to look at the greeks for this one. they were theorizing about this sort of stuff long before nash won the NBA MVP, which may be comic if one was humourless. I'd also look at Bakhtin. he calls laughter the surplus of of humanity. the eytymology of the words might help too. comic has a root in komikos- to revel (not to be confused with Komninos the fine Aussie poet) and humor (or humour in my mouth) relatign to health. what might make nash more comic is the double subversion of first poetry in the newspaper, then, silly poetry in the newspaper. (don't ask me to explain silly as I'd only string you along) might this publicity contribute to the comic? maybe speech act theory would be a place to have a look. just some thoughts. cheers, kevin -- --------------------------------------------------- http://nedaftersnowslides.com/ Hypertext fiction by Don Austin ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:23:40 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ben Basan Subject: Re: comedy and humor In-Reply-To: <004f01c5669f$90e42070$230110ac@AaronDell> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Not about the difference exactly, but Bergson's "Laughter: An Essay on the Meaning of the Comic" might prove useful. Ben On 6/1/05 6:46 AM, "Aaron Belz" wrote: > Dear friends, > > Having heard nothing, I'll post this again --- > > I am looking for a theoretical text that deals with the difference between > "humor" (Nash) and the "comic" (Stevens) in the 20th century. I am writing > an essay about comedy theory that includes Bergson, Wyndham Lewis, and > Breton, and I would like to begin by defining comedy as opposed to humor. > > Aaron Belz > > > p.s. (by the way, wasn't there a time on this list when a post like this > would receive three or four quick , incredibly helpful replies? Now it's > like... announcement this... announcement that... Ah well, I'm not the most > vital participant in List Mind, so who am I to judge?) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 08:25:12 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys From: Thomas savage Subject: Re: why poetry is eating itself alive In-Reply-To: <20050601.020510.-166321.27.skyplums@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Steve. I'm glad someone reads my messages. I've just been kidding around on this issue or statement from Furniture Press. I suspect the ego has as much or as little to do with it as it usually does with my poetry, assuming that the ego can be said to exist which, to a Buddhist, is questionable. I don't know what you see as egotistical in what I've said about poetry eating/poetry eating itself alive but that's okay. Like I say, I'm glad someone but me is reading these things. Steve Dalachinksy wrote:tom did yer ego get in the way there? why if they're good should they be independent of yer ego and not i'm assuming when they're bad? good or bad the ones i hear you read seem to have been written by BUDDHA? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 08:32:22 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Thomas savage Subject: Re: Recommended Summer Reading In-Reply-To: 3013_3405057_1237825_2486_993_0_3945_ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have one more book to add to the summer reading list so I'm doing this this way.The book is Life is Elsewhere by Milan Kundera, a book which came out in translation five years ago but which I didn'e encounter until last week. It's a wonderful novel whose main character is a poet named Jamil, a fictional entity as far as I know mIEKAL aND wrote:Ampersand Squared an/thology of pwoermds edited by Geof Huth Runaway Spoon Press, 2004 One word poems from Aram Saroyan's classic eyeye to christopher franke's poefict. The next step after reading the book is to generate your own. ____ Suicide Circus: Selected Poems Translations of Alexei Kruchenykh by Jack Hirschman & others Green Integer 27, 2001 Everyone will start reading Zaum Studying my poetic gellescence So be happy till I'm with you And don't wear the hangdog look. ____ Avant Gardening Ecological Struggles in The City & The World edited by Peter Lamborn Wilson & Bill Weinberg Autonomedia, 1999 The survival of wilderness is synchronous with creating local cultures which celebrate their own unique species & phyto-customs. One again, parallels are easy to draw & are recuperable as patterns to build future do-it-yourself culture upon. ____ Hypnerotomachia Poliphili The Strife of Love in a Dream Francesco Colonna Translated by Joscelyn Godwin Thames & Hudson, 1999 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 11:41:09 -0400 Reply-To: Mike Kelleher Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mike Kelleher Organization: Just Buffalo Literary Center Subject: JUST BUFFALO E-NEWSLETTER 06-01-05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Friends, Just Buffalo is moving downtown! As of July 1, we will be sharing office space with CEPA Gallery and Big Orbit at the Market Arcade on Main St. Although we're packing up the books, this is no ordinary move. Together with CEPA and Big Orbit/Soundlab, we are launching the cultural community's first true administrative partnership, a project two years in the making and a central strategy for remaining strong in the face of severely diminished government support following the Erie County budget fiasco. The three organizations will share office space, a grant-writer, marketing, purchasing, and training while keeping our strong individual identities. Just Buffalo's programming will continue without pause. Our workshops and writer critique group will take place in CEPA's Flux Gallery. Our "In the Hibiscus Room" series will now be called the "Orbital" series and will take place at Big Orbit Gallery, located at 30d Essex, St. in Buffalo. Our Open Readings will continue; however, the 2nd Wednesday reading each month that had been taking place in the Hibiscus Room will, as of July 1, take place at the Carnegie Art Center, 240 Goundry St. in North Tonawanda. New information, as well as directions to new locations, will be posted in this newsletter and on the website by the end of June. As of July 1, our new mailing address will be: Just Buffalo Literary Center Market Arcade 617 Main Street, Suite 202A Buffalo, 14203. Tel. 716.832.5400 Fax. 716 270.0184 This is the beginning of a new era for Just Buffalo. You can be proud, as a member, to support an organization that has consistently been a leader and innovator in the cultural community. We look forward to seeing you this summer and in seasons to come. Thanks for the continued support. Sincerely, Laurie Dean Torrell, Executive Director Michael Kelleher, Artistic Director Cass Clarke, Director of Education ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 11:50:09 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maria Damon Subject: from the anals (oops, annals) of prairie-land Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Minnesota has a state muffin (blueberry), a state photograph ("Grace") and a state mushroom (morel), but it decidedly won't have a state poet laureate. Gov. Tim Pawlenty rejected a bill overwhelmingly passed by the Legislature that would have allowed him to appoint a poet laureate after receiving recommendations from the nonprofit Minnesota Humanities Commission. The laureate would have been called on to provide verse for "appropriate ceremonies and celebrations" of the state, such as the 2008 sesquicentennial. No state money would have gone with the job. In a veto message signed Friday and announced Tuesday, however, Pawlenty said he saw no need for such a position. "We can benefit from the richness and diversity of all of the poets in Minnesota and recognize and embrace their work as merit and circumstances warrant," he said. He also suggested that the measure could lead to "requests for a state mime, interpretive dancer or potter." According to the Library of Congress, about 34 states have established poet laureate positions, although some are vacant. Rep. Tim Mahoney, DFL-St. Paul, a pipefitter who was a House cosponsor of the vetoed legislation, noted that England has yet to produce a potter laureate. "I found the governor's logic rather contrived," he said Tuesday. Others offered sharper criticism. "Mr. Pawlenty seems to think that if you keep from raising taxes, the imagination will cease to be rambunctious," said Bill Holm, a poet and essayist from Minneota, Minn. "He's terrified of the imagination rearing up and giving a good, swift kick to his dead ideas." Holm, along with Robert Bly or even radio star Garrison Keillor, could have been candidates to be Minnesota's first poet laureate. Holm's own suggestions included Phebe Hanson, Mark Vinz and John Rezmerski. Holm said a poet laureate is important "to publicly acknowledge that poetry is a part of the culture -- that something besides the practical lives and exists. Einstein thought that what he played on the violin was greater than all of his physics." "I was totally surprised" by the veto, said Rep. Barb Sykora, R-Excelsior, chief House sponsor and chairwoman of the Education Finance Committee. "I saw it as putting a little more emphasis on one type of literature that you don't hear much about." Pawlenty's veto cannot be overridden because the Legislature ended its regular session, during which the bill was passed, last week. Even though the votes in favor were 126 to 6 in the House and 52 to 8 in the Senate, its sponsors voiced little enthusiasm for reviving the issue. All the legislative opposition came from Republicans, which led to a piece of not quite laureate quality verse that was read on the House floor. Penned by Rep. John Lesch, DFL-St. Paul, it named each of the no voters -- including Rep. Phil Krinkie, R-Lino Lakes, who was rhymed with "stinky" -- and concluded: But thanks all you others, it'll please all your mothers/ To know you like rhymes and you show it Those others who frowned will soon come around/ To love our state Laureate Poet. Conrad deFiebre is at cdefiebre@startribune.com. -- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 11:50:54 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Aaron Belz Subject: 6/1/05 - All Nude Poetry Reading MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit WEDNESDAY, JUNE 1, 2005!!!!! The Aaron Belz Reading Series presents.... ---St. Louis's first documented--- *aLl NuDe PoEtRy ReAdInG* 9:00 pm - ??? Aaron Belz's private study ! (Call for directions) (if you need them) Wine served / Free to the public / Photography allowed Nerds welcome / Fine, bring your dog or cat ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Now as to the "comedy and humor" thread. Thanks, everyone! Very helpful. A few responses: Ben - yes, "Laughter" is the primary Bergson text I'm working with. Kevin - especially helpful; I do have _Rabalais and His World_ in hand and will begin perusing it today; does he talk about the etymology of the words, or is that an observation of someone else, or is that your own observation? Also: What is "speech act theory", and who are its primary theorists? Robin - I trust you jest when you suggest D.B. Wyndham Lewis makes more sense than the "Apes of God man"! Two of the latter's essays in _The Wild Body_ are devoted to humor theory. Halvard - I tried to send this as an announcement. Thanks for the suggestion. -Aaron ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 16:53:04 GMT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Lanny Quarles Subject: Re: comedy and humor You might check out Simon Critchley's book _On Humor_. There is an interview w/ the author here: http://www.culturewars.org.uk/2002-12/simoncritchley.htm and there was an article in Cabinet either this issue or one back, I can't recall. lq Here's a little less than half of the interview for a taste: SD: You end On Humour with a definition of the risus purus, the highest laugh. I will read that definition back to you: For me, it is this smile - deriding the having and the not having, the pleasure and the pain, the sublimity and suffering of the human situation - that is the essence of humour. This is the risus purus, the highest laugh, the laugh that laughs at the laugh, that laughs at that which is unhappy, the mirthless laugh of the epigraph to this book. Yet, this smile does not bring unhappiness, but rather elevation and liberation, the lucidity of consolation. This is why, melancholy animals that we are, human beings are also the most cheerful. We smile and find ourselves ridiculous. Our wretchedness is our greatness. Although I sympathise with your celebration of humanity's ability to overcome the worst, through laughter, this wormhole of escapism, I am deeply suspicious of any theory that concludes 'our wretchedness is our greatness'. Can you really defend this statement? SC: It's a quotation from Pascal. I've always been very keen on Pascal, and what I'm most keen on in Pascal is his emphasis upon human wretchedness. He has a phrase which goes something like 'Anxiety, boredom and inconstancy, that is the human condition' and I've always been very partial to that. But obviously for Pascal the flip side of that is religious experience, that experience of God that would transform or redeem your wretchedness. I've long wanted to have an occasion to include it in something I wrote and that's why it's there. I do mean it, it's very important to me in so far as I think, and this is one of the arguments of the book, that there is a black sun at the heart of the coloured universe, there is something melancholic at the heart of humour and in the last chapter I try and trace that out using Freud. I try and show how the structure of melancholia and the structure of humour are the same structure. Melancholia for Freud is the relationship that the subject takes up with respect to itself from the position of what he calls conscience or what he later calls the super-ego. And that can be lacerated - if you think of the anorexic who sees themselves from the perspective of the image they have, of the image they have of themselves in the mirror which is false - that would be the super-ego. Super-ego is what generates depression and it is what has to be dealt with in psychoanalysis. The thing about humour is that the super-ego is also at play, so what interested me, particularly in the last chapter which is key to the book -and no one seems to have picked this up in writings on Freud - is that, in the later Freud, the essence of humour is the ability to look at myself and find myself ridiculous. That makes me laugh. So the pathology of humour is the same pathology as that of melancholia or depression The difference with humour is that humour can alleviate that, can transform that experience of wretchedness into something elevating, and liberating, in Freud's words. I don't want people to dwell in their wretchedness, I want people to find themselves ridiculous, and in so far as they can find themselves ridiculous they can rise above that wretchedness. SD: What you are saying then, is that the final quotation, your thesis on humour, is not so much descriptive as prescriptive? SC: Both. It's a very difficult line to tread. I begin the book by trying to describe the phenomena of humour and the phenomena of laughter. And then I say I am going to make normative claims. It is normal to say about humour that it is good to laugh at yourself and not good to laugh at others - that is the ethical headline of the book. It is descriptive therefore, in that I am feeding of what happens in humour and trying to offer a certain idea of how humour ought to be, what the best sorts of humour are capable of. SD: Freud and Pascal are not the only figures in the last chapter. Samuel Beckett features a lot. Why so many helpers? Is it because humour is like that, it's a communal thing? SC: Absolutely - everybody's an expert and everybody's got a gag. I was giving a talk in Bath at a conference on animals - there was no reason why I should have been there - but I was giving a plenary on humour and animals. Afterwards I got twenty-five references that I might follow on the basis of that talk - and they were good things. Why the book is so eclectic is that I was being taken off in different directions by people responding to it, but they're responding to it because they feel they have something to say, that they know about humour, they know what it means. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:39:11 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: Re: why poetry is eating itself alive - steve, tom Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Obviously the discussion is or is not being well taken care of or badly tre= ated as if a chil and/or adult sitting/standing at the margin/center of the= fray/giftgiving. tom is right and wrong to say what he says and does not say, when he is say= ing it or not saying it. he makes sense to us and doesn't make sense so tha= t we're always and never sure or unsure of what exactly precisely indefinat= ely saying or not saying. tom, what steve is saying is this. tom, steve, this is a good beginning and/or ending end/or anding. or else a= m i making sense by not?=20 poetry we'll have to take seriously and poetry we'll have to take even more= seriously, the latter being one of respect and the former of brilliance th= at we can't escape its brilliance. deem it brilliant i may you could say it= can't and we come to something closer by farther away.=20 poetry was eating itself (masticating, as jean hartig says, my best friend = and enemy to poetry) and i told her not to assimilate the idea by assimilat= ing it to either poetry or poetry, because there's always three sides of th= e coin: poetry is in the middle of masticating itself. i feel that it will = soon be possible that poetry will be matriculating itself after the eating = is done.=20 i wanted to say 'the eat' but a number of institutions that are not on my s= ide provide no vacancy for such ideas. poetry wanted to say something too, = but i repressed it, along with (tom and steve)'s outcry for dominance on a = poetics list made up of human and non-human subjects. case in point: i have met several people on the list, in public. to name a = few i won't. it has occured to me that since charles and co. established th= e list, using names of prominant and not so prominant and, people like me, = not wanting prominance, have built a long dialogue (in this case narrative = since charles and co. at buffPOdept. have been singlehandedly creating all = posts to the list, except mine (which is a flaw in my theory)and by which p= eople who THINK they're on this list believe that they themselves are posti= ng. for example: steve dalachinsky: "man o man chris what's going on with lautreamont?" steve d has no idea he's writing this because no one is writing this. the e= xistence of a malpractice suit in the hands of a wordsmith resinates with s= uspect handwriting claws. it states that charles and co. are making it up a= s they go, yet again revolutionizing POlitics, POlitics just to get it righ= t, by making it their history. thus poetry has integrated itself into the surroundings of this list, my le= tter to steve and tom and co. if they exist. it has matriculated into a cur= riculum of deafening proportion. the world teaches science courses and snow= eludes the weathermen, alluding, i'll say, to what kerouac said, in an unp= ublished letter to harry smith in 1957, "harry, butter? get it, man? like, = wow!" at the end or the beginning of the discussion or silence let me make a poin= t to speak or not to speak on the issue.=20 christophe "pastamassima" casamassima p.s. to whomever it may concern : i've no use for a serious poetry. it's al= l very humorous. like a bone. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas savage" To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: why poetry is eating itself alive Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 08:25:12 -0700 >=20 > Hi Steve. I'm glad someone reads my messages. I've just been kidding ar= ound on this issue or=20 > statement from Furniture Press. I suspect the ego has as much or as litt= le to do with it as it=20 > usually does with my poetry, assuming that the ego can be said to exist w= hich, to a Buddhist, is=20 > questionable. I don't know what you see as egotistical in what I've said= about poetry=20 > eating/poetry eating itself alive but that's okay. Like I say, I'm glad = someone but me is=20 > reading these things. >=20 > Steve Dalachinksy wrote:tom did yer ego get in the wa= y there? >=20 > why if they're good should they be independent of yer ego > and not i'm assuming when they're bad? >=20 > good or bad the ones i hear you read seem to have been written by > BUDDHA? >=20 >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com www.towson.edu/~cacasama/furniture/poae baltimorereads.blogspot.com zillionpoems.blogspot.com --=20 _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for just= US$9.95 per year! Powered by Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:12:59 -0400 Reply-To: poetrythinair@earthlink.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mitch Corber Subject: Re: why poetry is eating itself alive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII you cc'd this to me corber what's happening > [Original Message] > From: Steve Dalachinksy > To: > Date: 6/1/2005 2:32:50 AM > Subject: Re: why poetry is eating itself alive > > tom did yer ego get in the way there? > > why if they're good should they be independent of yer ego > and not i'm assuming when they're bad? > > good or bad the ones i hear you read seem to have been written by > BUDDHA? ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 11:22:18 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Catherine Daly Subject: FW: [norcallitlist] CCH Grants Workshops in June and July MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit wd like to see more documentary poetry & documentary of CA poetry win this thing Please visit our website http://www.californiastories.org/guidelines/guidelines_main.htm for a schedule of upcoming workshops in Southern California and descriptions of our current grant lines, the California Story Fund (next deadline, August 1, 2005) and the California Documentary Project (next deadline, October 1). Brief descriptions of funded projects are also on the site. Workshops will focus on the California Story Fund grant line and will provide basic information, tips, and do's and don'ts about submitting a CCH application. A special workshop (or two) for documentary filmmakers interested in applying for a Documentary Fund grant will be held in July. Note: Project requirements and application processes for both grant lines have changed slightly from previous rounds. For reservations or more information, please contact the appropriate staff person listed on the website. Best, Felicia Felicia Harmer Kelley, Ph.D. Senior Programs Manager California Council for the Humanities 315 W. Ninth St. #702 Los Angeles, CA 90015 (213) 623-5993 - phone (213) 623-6833 - fax fkelley@calhum.org ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:56:41 +0100 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Peter Cudmore Subject: Re: comedy and humor In-Reply-To: <004f01c5669f$90e42070$230110ac@AaronDell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now that folk are restricted to one post per day, they're very discriminating about what they say... and sometimes choose silence. The real reason for this particular silence, however, may be that you've set yourself what Bergson would call a false problem. If you could set out a principled articulation of the distinction you seek to make? You've not cited Koestler's _The Act of Creation_ which starts with some stuff about comedy. Also, you might find Bertrand Russell's criticism of Bergson on laughter briefly illuminating (that's in the collected papers, Logical and Philosophical Papers 1909-13. London: Routledge 1992). P > -----Original Message----- > From: UB Poetics discussion group > [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Aaron Belz > Sent: 01 June 2005 12:47 > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: comedy and humor > > Dear friends, > > Having heard nothing, I'll post this again --- > > I am looking for a theoretical text that deals with the > difference between "humor" (Nash) and the "comic" (Stevens) > in the 20th century. I am writing an essay about comedy > theory that includes Bergson, Wyndham Lewis, and Breton, and > I would like to begin by defining comedy as opposed to humor. > > Aaron Belz > > > p.s. (by the way, wasn't there a time on this list when a > post like this > would receive three or four quick , incredibly helpful > replies? Now it's > like... announcement this... announcement that... Ah well, > I'm not the most vital participant in List Mind, so who am I > to judge?) > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:10:06 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mairead Byrne Subject: Re: comedy and humor Comments: To: halvard@EARTHLINK.NET Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline That's very funny Hal! Here's a bibliography, Aaron, though personal recommendations would = probably be more useful: www.hnu.edu/ishs/ISHSbibs/THEORY.doc=20 Victor Raskin at Purdue University (he's still there, I think) might be a = useful contact. Mairead ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:15:51 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Christopher Leland Winks Subject: Re: comedy and humor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Aaron, I just read Kenneth Rexroth's "Classics Revisited," and he approaches the distinction between humor and the comic on several occasions, notably when discussing the work of Henry Fielding and Laurence Sterne. It's not "theoretical" (whatever that is, really), but as a work of comparative literary criticism, it's endlessly thought- provoking, as indeed all of Rexroth's critical work is. Best, Chris ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 17:36:20 -0230 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kevin Hehir Subject: Re: from the anals (oops, annals) of prairie-land Comments: To: Maria Damon In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey Maria, Maybe you can lobby to have the Minnesota moto changed to State of Grace? On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Maria Damon wrote: > Minnesota has a state muffin (blueberry), a state photograph ("Grace") and a > state mushroom (morel), but it decidedly won't have a state poet laureate. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 16:47:15 -0400 Reply-To: Davey Volner Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Davey Volner Subject: Billy Collins and Tony Towle, Saturday in Gramercy In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline VGhlIEFjY29tcGFuaWVkIExpYnJhcnkgUHJlc2VudHOWCiAgVGhlIEZpbmFsIEV2ZW5pbmcgaW4g dGhlIEZpcnN0IEFubnVhbCBQb2V0cnkgU2VyaWVzCiJBIENpdmlsaXplZCBTYXR1cmRheSIgICAg ICAKb2YgUG9ldHJ5LCBUZWEgJiBTY29uZXMgKCYgTGliYXRpb25zKQoKRmVhdHVyaW5nIHJlYWRl cnMgQmlsbHkgQ29sbGlucyBhbmQgVG9ueSBUb3dsZQpTYXR1cmRheSwgSnVuZSA0dGgsIDZQTSAg ICAgICAgICQxMSBhdCB0aGUgZG9vciAobm9uLW1lbWJlcnMpCiAgICAgICAgICAgICAgV2luZSB3 aXRoIHRoZSBwb2V0cyB0byBmb2xsb3cKCntUaGlzIGV2ZW50IGlzIGJ5IGludml0YXRpb24gb25s eSBhbmQgd2lsbCBoYXZlIGxpbWl0ZWQgc3BhY2UuIFdlCmVuY291cmFnZSBhbGwgYXR0ZW5kZWVz IHRvIFJTVlAgYnkgSnVuZSAzcmR9CgogVGhlIEFjY29tcGFuaWVkIExpYnJhcnksIHJlY2VudGx5 IHZvdGVkIHRoZSBjaXR5J3MgIkJlc3QgUHJpdmF0ZSBDbHViIgpieSBOZXcgWW9yayBNYWdhemlu ZSwgY29uY2x1ZGVzIGFuIGV4Y2l0aW5nIG5ldyBzZXJpZXMgb2YgcmVhZGluZ3OWIApmdWxsIG9m IHBvZXRyeSB1cmJhbmUgYW5kIGhpbGFyaW91cywgc29waGlzdGljYXRlZCBhbmQgbW92aW5nlgp0 aGF0IGhhcyBzaG93Y2FzZWQgcmVhZGVycyBmcm9tIEpvaG4gQXNoYmVyeSB0byBFaWxlZW4gTXls ZXMuCiBGb2xsb3dpbmcgb24gdGhlIGhlZWxzIG9mIGZpdmUgd2lsZGx5IHN1Y2Nlc3NmdWwgZXZl bmluZ3MsCnRoaXMgU2F0dXJkYXkgcG9ldHMgQmlsbHkgQ29sbGlucyBhbmQgVG9ueSBUb3dsZSAK cmVhZCBpbiB0aGUgTGlicmFyeSdzIGdvcmdlb3VzLCBpbnRpbWF0ZSBzcGFjZSB3aXRoaW4gdGhl Ck5hdGlvbmFsIEFydHMgQ2x1Yi4KIAoKVE9OWSBUT1dMRSB3YXMgYm9ybiBpbiBOZXcgWW9yayBp biAxOTM5IGFuZCBoYXMgbGl2ZWQgdGhlcmUgbW9zdCBvZgpoaXMgbGlmZS4gSm9obiBBc2hiZXJ5 IGhhcyB3cml0dGVuIG9mIFRvbnkgVG93bGUncyBwb2V0cnkgYXMgIm9uZSBvZgp0aGUgTmV3IFlv cmsgU2Nob29sJ3MgYmVzdC1rZXB0IHNlY3JldHMuIiBIZSBiZWNhbWUgYXNzb2NpYXRlZCB3aXRo CnRoZSBOZXcgWW9yayBTY2hvb2wgb2YgcG9ldHJ5IGluIHRoZSBlYXJseSAxOTYwcywgYW5kIHdv biB0aGUgRnJhbmsKTydIYXJhIEF3YXJkIGluIDE5NzAsIGluIGNvbmp1bmN0aW9uIHdpdGggd2hp Y2ggaGlzIGZpcnN0IGJvb2ssIE5vcnRoLAp3YXMgcHVibGlzaGVkLiBPdGhlciB2b2x1bWVzIGlu Y2x1ZGUgIFdvcmtzIG9uIFBhcGVyIGFuZCBTb21lIE11c2ljYWwKRXBpc29kZXMsIHRoZSBsYXR0 ZXIgZnJvbSBIYW5naW5nIExvb3NlIFByZXNzIGluIDE5OTIsIHdoaWNoIGFsc28KcHVibGlzaGVk IFRoZSBIaXN0b3J5IG9mIHRoZSBJbnZpdGF0aW9uOiBOZXcgJiBTZWxlY3RlZCBQb2VtcwoxOTYz LTIwMDAuIEJlc2lkZXMgdGhlc2UgaGUgaGFzIHdyaXR0ZW4gTWVtb2lyIDE5NjAtMTk2MyBhbmQg YSByZWNlbnQKY2hhcGJvb2sgZW50aXRsZWQgTmluZSBJbW1hdGVyaWFsIE5vY3R1cm5lcy4KCkJJ TExZIENPTExJTlMgaXMgdGhlIGF1dGhvciBvZiBzZXZlcmFsIGJvb2tzIG9mIHBvZXRyeSwgaW5j bHVkaW5nClNhaWxpbmcgQWxvbmUgQXJvdW5kIHRoZSBSb29tOiBOZXcgYW5kIFNlbGVjdGVkIFBv ZW1zOyBUaGUgQXJ0IG9mCkRyb3duaW5nLCB3aGljaCB3YXMgYSBmaW5hbGlzdCBmb3IgdGhlIExl bm9yZSBNYXJzaGFsbCBQb2V0cnkgUHJpemU7ClF1ZXN0aW9ucyBBYm91dCBBbmdlbHMsIHdoaWNo IHdhcyBzZWxlY3RlZCBieSBFZHdhcmQgSGlyc2NoIGZvciB0aGUKTmF0aW9uYWwgUG9ldHJ5IFNl cmllczsgVGhlIEFwcGxlIFRoYXQgQXN0b25pc2hlZCBQYXJpczsgYW5kClBva2VyZmFjZS4gQ29s bGlucydzIHBvZXRyeSBoYXMgYWxzbyBhcHBlYXJlZCBpbiBhbnRob2xvZ2llcywKdGV4dGJvb2tz LCBhbmQgYSB2YXJpZXR5IG9mIHBlcmlvZGljYWxzLiBDb2xsaW5zIGhhcyByZWNlaXZlZApmZWxs b3dzaGlwcyBmcm9tIHRoZSBOZXcgWW9yayBGb3VuZGF0aW9uIGZvciB0aGUgQXJ0cywgdGhlIE5h dGlvbmFsCkVuZG93bWVudCBmb3IgdGhlIEFydHMsIGFuZCB0aGUgR3VnZ2VuaGVpbSBGb3VuZGF0 aW9uLiBJbiAxOTkyLCBoZSB3YXMKY2hvc2VuIGJ5IHRoZSBOZXcgWW9yayBQdWJsaWMgTGlicmFy eSB0byBzZXJ2ZSBhcyAiTGl0ZXJhcnkgTGlvbiIgYW5kCmluIDIwMDEgaGUgc2VydmVkIGFzIHRo ZSBVLlMuIFBvZXQgTGF1cmVhdGUuIEhlIGlzIGEgcHJvZmVzc29yIG9mCkVuZ2xpc2ggYXQgTGVo bWFuIENvbGxlZ2UsIENpdHkgVW5pdmVyc2l0eSBvZiBOZXcgWW9yay4KCgpUaGUgQWNjb21wYW5p ZWQgTGlicmFyeSBTb2NpZXR5CmF0IFRoZSBOYXRpb25hbCBBcnRzIENsdWIKMTUgR3JhbWVyY3kg UGFyayBTb3V0aCAjNkMKTmV3IFlvcmssIE5ZIDEwMDAzCnAuIDIxMiA5NzkgNTMxMwpmLiAyMTIg OTY2IDY1MTEKaHR0cDovL3d3dy5hY2NvbXBhbmllZGxpYnJhcnkuY29tCmJyb29rZUBhY2NvbXBh bmllZGxpYnJhcnkuY29tCg== ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:14:40 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Susan Wheeler Subject: Another Reading, Novel Version Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Susan Wheeler (=93Record Palace=94) Friday, June 3, 2005 8:00 PM Reading/Discussion/Q & A West Side YMCA-- The George Washington Lounge 5 West 63rd Street (between Central Park West & Broadway) ~Admission Free and Open to the Public~ Copies of =93Record Palace=94 will be available for sale at this event. We= are=20 pleased to be working with =93BookCourt=94 from downtown Brooklyn to make= this=20 fine book available this evening=85 We are pleased to continue our partnership with 67Wine, who, in part,=20 provide wines for our readings in order to make your experience here even=20 more pleasurable. "Record Palace is an astonishment. Susan Wheeler's deft touch and flawless= =20 ear have produced an irresistible work, both fresh and sage." - Toni= Morrison =93Ten years ago I was stopped cold by Susan Wheeler=92s poetry. She has= done=20 it again with her fiction=97an exquisitely crafted recollection of music, at= =20 a pivotal time for both jazz and Chicago.=94=97STEVE MARTIN =93Dialogic, atmospheric, a situation plumbed rather than a plot unfolded=97= a=20 Chicago noir this is and it casts its spell.=94 =97E.L. DOCTOROW In RECORD PALACE, Cindy, a lean, lonely white girl, has come to Chicago to= =20 study art history=97to be anywhere but where she came from=97Thousand Oaks,= =20 California: tract housing, mock-stucco buildings, =93incessant sun and=20 incessant sunniness of every blonde girl.=94 Record Palace, littered with cans of malt liquor and remnants of past=20 meals, also has boxes upon boxes of records=97all jazz. And it has Acie,= =93big=20 on all sides, top included. A hairnet, the hair below the net long and limp= =20 with oil. Green stretch pants, flip-flops, a thin black U-tank taut across= =20 Sumo folds.=94 Cindy knows she doesn=92t belong, and this is why she stays. Cindy=92s determination leads to a tentative friendship with Acie, and she= =20 becomes a familiar, if not fully understood, presence in the store. But it= =20 is through her chance meeting with Acie=92s son that she becomes embroiled= in=20 an unusual crime. With prose that resembles the syncopated rhythms of jazz, Wheeler=97an=20 award-winning poet=97offers a stunning portrait of a woman searching for an= =20 identity in a city on the cusp of social and political change. Susan Wheeler is the author of three award-winning books of poetry, Bag =91o= =92=20 Diamonds, Smokes, and Source Codes. A new collection, Ledger, will be=20 available in April 2005. Wheeler lives in the New York area. We are located at 5 W. 63rd Street, between Central Park West & Broadway.=20 Accessible Trains: A, C, B, D, 1 & 9 to Columbus Circle. Sincerely, Glenn Raucher Literary Arts Director West Side YMCA Writer=92s Voice (212) 875-4124 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 17:57:12 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mark Weiss Subject: Re: from the anals (oops, annals) of prairie-land In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 12:50 PM 6/1/2005, you wrote: >Minnesota has a state muffin (blueberry), a state photograph ("Grace") and a >state mushroom (morel), but it decidedly won't have a state poet laureate. > >Gov. Tim Pawlenty rejected a bill overwhelmingly passed by the Legislature >that would have allowed him to appoint a poet laureate after receiving >recommendations from the nonprofit Minnesota Humanities Commission. > >The laureate would have been called on to provide verse for "appropriate >ceremonies and celebrations" of the state, such as the 2008 >sesquicentennial. No state money would have gone with the job. What poet could resist the chance to to write, say, "Sesquicentenial Sestina," and for the usual pay? Is there a laureate's union? >In a veto message signed Friday and announced Tuesday, however, Pawlenty >said he saw no need for such a position. > >"We can benefit from the richness and diversity of all of the poets in >Minnesota and recognize and embrace their work as merit and circumstances >warrant," he said. > >He also suggested that the measure could lead to "requests for a state mime, >interpretive dancer or potter." Sounds good to me. Especially the state mime. >According to the Library of Congress, about 34 states have established poet >laureate positions, although some are vacant. Some of the poets are pretty vacant, too. >Rep. Tim Mahoney, DFL-St. Paul, a pipefitter who was a House cosponsor of >the vetoed legislation, noted that England has yet to produce a potter >laureate. "I found the governor's logic rather contrived," he said Tuesday. Surely we can do better than the Brits. >Others offered sharper criticism. > >"Mr. Pawlenty seems to think that if you keep from raising taxes, the >imagination will cease to be rambunctious," said Bill Holm, a poet and >essayist from Minneota, Minn. "He's terrified of the imagination rearing up >and giving a good, swift kick to his dead ideas." > >Holm, along with Robert Bly or even radio star Garrison Keillor, could have >been candidates to be Minnesota's first poet laureate. Holm's own >suggestions included Phebe Hanson, Mark Vinz and John Rezmerski. Think of it, we could have had Bly or Keillor. The mime sounds better and better. >Holm said a poet laureate is important "to publicly acknowledge that poetry >is a part of the culture -- that something besides the practical lives and >exists. Einstein thought that what he played on the violin was greater than >all of his physics." But not his own playing. Why not a state physicist? A state cat to chase the state bird? >"I was totally surprised" by the veto, said Rep. Barb Sykora, R-Excelsior, >chief House sponsor and chairwoman of the Education Finance Committee. "I >saw it as putting a little more emphasis on one type of literature that you >don't hear much about." > >Pawlenty's veto cannot be overridden because the Legislature ended its >regular session, during which the bill was passed, last week. Even though >the votes in favor were 126 to 6 in the House and 52 to 8 in the Senate, its >sponsors voiced little enthusiasm for reviving the issue. > >All the legislative opposition came from Republicans, which led to a piece >of not quite laureate quality verse that was read on the House floor. Penned >by Rep. John Lesch, DFL-St. Paul, it named each of the no voters -- >including Rep. Phil Krinkie, R-Lino Lakes, who was rhymed with "stinky" -- >and concluded: > >But thanks all you others, it'll please all your mothers/ To know you like >rhymes and you show it > >Those others who frowned will soon come around/ To love our state Laureate >Poet. > >Conrad deFiebre is at cdefiebre@startribune.com. > >-- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 15:20:06 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Re: from the anals (oops, annals) of prairie-land In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.1.20050601175137.047de230@pop.earthlink.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Why not, Maria or whoever, we get the gov's email address and bombard him with poems. Like 'Dear Gov, you can kill the messenger but not the.." and "here's a poem". I suspect the gov is conflating New Jersey with Minnesota and terrified that the State's version of Amiri Baraka is going jump out of the State wood-chipper and start telling the truth about Senator Mark Coleman qua Bush patsy a la Galloway and then come up with some songs about why some in high places would have seen it as efficient to eliminate Paul Wellstone, etc. I understand the Gov's concerns. Here in the quasi-dormant Union. Stephen V By the way, I hope a few of us yesterday saw the the C-Span Kent State National Guard killings of 35 years ago remembered. Moving stuff, I thought. Maybe C-Span will play it again. > At 12:50 PM 6/1/2005, you wrote: >> Minnesota has a state muffin (blueberry), a state photograph ("Grace") and a >> state mushroom (morel), but it decidedly won't have a state poet laureate. >> >> Gov. Tim Pawlenty rejected a bill overwhelmingly passed by the Legislature >> that would have allowed him to appoint a poet laureate after receiving >> recommendations from the nonprofit Minnesota Humanities Commission. >> >> The laureate would have been called on to provide verse for "appropriate >> ceremonies and celebrations" of the state, such as the 2008 >> sesquicentennial. No state money would have gone with the job. > > What poet could resist the chance to to write, say, "Sesquicentenial > Sestina," and for the usual pay? > > Is there a laureate's union? > > >> In a veto message signed Friday and announced Tuesday, however, Pawlenty >> said he saw no need for such a position. >> >> "We can benefit from the richness and diversity of all of the poets in >> Minnesota and recognize and embrace their work as merit and circumstances >> warrant," he said. >> >> He also suggested that the measure could lead to "requests for a state mime, >> interpretive dancer or potter." > > > Sounds good to me. Especially the state mime. > > >> According to the Library of Congress, about 34 states have established poet >> laureate positions, although some are vacant. > > > Some of the poets are pretty vacant, too. > > >> Rep. Tim Mahoney, DFL-St. Paul, a pipefitter who was a House cosponsor of >> the vetoed legislation, noted that England has yet to produce a potter >> laureate. "I found the governor's logic rather contrived," he said Tuesday. > > > Surely we can do better than the Brits. > > >> Others offered sharper criticism. >> >> "Mr. Pawlenty seems to think that if you keep from raising taxes, the >> imagination will cease to be rambunctious," said Bill Holm, a poet and >> essayist from Minneota, Minn. "He's terrified of the imagination rearing up >> and giving a good, swift kick to his dead ideas." >> >> Holm, along with Robert Bly or even radio star Garrison Keillor, could have >> been candidates to be Minnesota's first poet laureate. Holm's own >> suggestions included Phebe Hanson, Mark Vinz and John Rezmerski. > > > Think of it, we could have had Bly or Keillor. The mime sounds better and > better. > > >> Holm said a poet laureate is important "to publicly acknowledge that poetry >> is a part of the culture -- that something besides the practical lives and >> exists. Einstein thought that what he played on the violin was greater than >> all of his physics." > > > But not his own playing. > > Why not a state physicist? > > A state cat to chase the state bird? > > >> "I was totally surprised" by the veto, said Rep. Barb Sykora, R-Excelsior, >> chief House sponsor and chairwoman of the Education Finance Committee. "I >> saw it as putting a little more emphasis on one type of literature that you >> don't hear much about." >> >> Pawlenty's veto cannot be overridden because the Legislature ended its >> regular session, during which the bill was passed, last week. Even though >> the votes in favor were 126 to 6 in the House and 52 to 8 in the Senate, its >> sponsors voiced little enthusiasm for reviving the issue. >> >> All the legislative opposition came from Republicans, which led to a piece >> of not quite laureate quality verse that was read on the House floor. Penned >> by Rep. John Lesch, DFL-St. Paul, it named each of the no voters -- >> including Rep. Phil Krinkie, R-Lino Lakes, who was rhymed with "stinky" -- >> and concluded: >> >> But thanks all you others, it'll please all your mothers/ To know you like >> rhymes and you show it >> >> Those others who frowned will soon come around/ To love our state Laureate >> Poet. >> >> Conrad deFiebre is at cdefiebre@startribune.com. >> >> -- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 19:14:30 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Lou Rowan Subject: Golden Handcuffs Review Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I'm happy Charles Bernstein let me know about this list: it's already been useful for an essay I'm writing for English Studies Forum on the comic novel The Lecture (la Conference de Cintegabelle) by Lydie Salvaryre. Meanwhile: through issue #4 (still in many bookstores and still available to subscribers), Golden Handcuffs has published new poetry, fiction, essays by: David Antin, Louis Armand, Charles Bernstein, R.M. Berry, Daniel Borzutsky, Sandra Braman, Laynie Browne, Paul Celan, Lyn Cofin, Robert Coover, Cid Corman, Theodore Enslin, Bernard Hoepffner, Fanny Howe, Robert Kelly, Robert Lamberton, Hank Lazer, Stacey Levine, Richard L. Lewis, David Matlin, Joseph McElroy, Robert Mittenthal, Paul Naylor, John Olson, Toby Olson, Joe Ashby Porter, Kevin Potis, Bernard Puech, Marthe Reed, Jerome Rothenberg, Lou Rowan, Michael Sheldon, Trey Strecker, Ronald Suckenick, Nathaniel Tarn, James Tierney, Lynn Thompson, Nico Vassilakis, Norman Weinstein, Mark Weiss, Douglas Woolf, Ellen Zweig. website: www.goldenhandcuffsreview.com Annual subscriptions, all of $12. And we need them! Next issue in memory of Robert Creeley and Guy Davenport, out in about 3 weeks. Please get it! Address: Box 20158, Seattle, WA98102 Let Harry Mathews have the last words: "In letters, there is nothing like Golden Handcuffs, and nothing better." Will do another announcement when #5 is out. Faithfully, Lou ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 18:54:21 -0600 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jonathan Penton Subject: Elvis died for somebody's sins but not mine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Greetings, fellow muckrackers! There's a new issue up at www.UnlikelyStories.org, including: an interview by Gabriel Ricard with anarchist musician U. Utah Phillips SGT Marshall Smith on racial slurs for the new era "The Power of Positive Thinking" by Bitter Pie Sam Vaknin on various rights to life poetry by Steve Dalachinsky, B. Z. Niditch, John Sweet, Anntelope, John Bryan, Ulrike Gerbig, Bob Ritchie and David E. Matthews fiction by Rodney Nelson, Rob Rosen, Jay Heisler, Joseph Musso and Robert E. Jordan non-fiction by Marie Kazalia and the 27th chapter of "A Sardine on Vacation," in which the Health Utopia finally hands down their sentence And check out the new designs at the Unlikely Store, at http://www.cafepress.com/unlikely2, where you can show your support for Ronald Reagan, López Obrador, Gore Vidal or Nero! Sending love from under the sea, -- Jonathan Penton http://www.unlikelystories.org ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 20:34:01 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: mIEKAL aND Subject: Fwd: [ubuweb] The End of UbuWeb Comments: To: Writing and Theory across Disciplines , spidertangle@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Begin forwarded message: > From: UbuWeb > Date: June 1, 2005 8:29:02 PM CDT > To: ubuweb@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [ubuweb] The End of UbuWeb > Reply-To: ubuweb@yahoogroups.com > > Friends, > > Thanks to one and all for the kind comments about UbuWeb. It was a > labor of love for the > past decade and it was truly an experiment in radical distribution of > materials that > thrive on a gift economy. And it worked. > > The finances and server complications are too dull to go into here, > but suffice it to > say, that after our university affiliation fell through, it quickly > became clear that it > wasn't salvageable in the Utopian form in which it existed. After > seeing the full > picture, I decided that UbuWeb should go out on a completely clean and > composed note: it > remained true to its vision from day one to the end. Anything else > would have seemed to > be a distasteful compromise. > > The University of Pennsylvania will take good care of the site and > archive it fully > intact far into the future. Suffice it to say that it's in the best > hands that it could > possibly be in. > > And really, my deepest hope is that UbuWeb will inspire others to > create sites that > surpass UbuWeb. We traffic in a privileged position of the gift > economy, where > intellectual materials travel widely and deeply, free of charge, > available to all > interested parties. UbuWeb is only the most recent incarnation of this > tradition; history > is rife with other examples. But the web remains the perfect place to > realize our ideals > without compromise. May a thousand flowers bloom. > > Kenny Goldsmith > > > > UbuWeb > http://ubu.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 20:38:59 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: norman finkelstein Subject: Ronald Johnson Dedication Photos Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Photos from the dedication ceremony of the plaque in memory of Ronald Johns= on may be found at http://www.washburn.edu/cas/art/cyoho/archive/Events/RonaldJohnson/ Thanks= to Carol Yoho for getting the site up in record time.=20 --=20 _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at= once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:58:50 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maria Damon Subject: Re: Fwd: [ubuweb] The End of UbuWeb In-Reply-To: <5012abce621236d754b1f5e8fecefd1f@mwt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" this is incredible. what a loss, but what a vision! ubu is a gem, a rare constellation. At 8:34 PM -0500 6/1/05, mIEKAL aND wrote: >Begin forwarded message: > >>From: UbuWeb >>Date: June 1, 2005 8:29:02 PM CDT >>To: ubuweb@yahoogroups.com >>Subject: Re: [ubuweb] The End of UbuWeb >>Reply-To: ubuweb@yahoogroups.com >> >>Friends, >> >>Thanks to one and all for the kind comments about UbuWeb. It was a >>labor of love for the >>past decade and it was truly an experiment in radical distribution of >>materials that >>thrive on a gift economy. And it worked. >> >>The finances and server complications are too dull to go into here, >>but suffice it to >>say, that after our university affiliation fell through, it quickly >>became clear that it >>wasn't salvageable in the Utopian form in which it existed. After >>seeing the full >>picture, I decided that UbuWeb should go out on a completely clean and >>composed note: it >>remained true to its vision from day one to the end. Anything else >>would have seemed to >>be a distasteful compromise. >> >>The University of Pennsylvania will take good care of the site and >>archive it fully >>intact far into the future. Suffice it to say that it's in the best >>hands that it could >>possibly be in. >> >>And really, my deepest hope is that UbuWeb will inspire others to >>create sites that >>surpass UbuWeb. We traffic in a privileged position of the gift >>economy, where >>intellectual materials travel widely and deeply, free of charge, >>available to all >>interested parties. UbuWeb is only the most recent incarnation of this >>tradition; history >>is rife with other examples. But the web remains the perfect place to >>realize our ideals >>without compromise. May a thousand flowers bloom. >> >>Kenny Goldsmith >> >> >> >>UbuWeb >>http://ubu.com -- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 23:49:28 -0400 Reply-To: richard.j.newman@verizon.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Richard Jeffrey Newman Subject: Richard Newman's Upcoming Readings MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Saturday, June 4th, 2-4 PM Sufi Books, 227 West Broadway, (212) 334-5212 $5 Admission Charge =20 THE BLOSSOMS OF MY GARDEN REMAIN FRESH FOREVER: Readings from Saadi's 'Gulistan' =20 Shaykh Saadi of=A0 Shiraz, a contemporary of Rumi, is recognized as a = master of classical Persian literature. His two masterpieces, the Gulistan and = the Bustan, are revered worldwide both for the literary pleasures they = provide and for the wisdom they contain. 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Come hear Professor Newman read from his work and discuss what he = learned from and about the translation process.=20 If you would like more information about Professor Newman or his work, please visit his website: www.richardjnewman.com.=20 _________________________________ Richard Jeffrey Newman Associate Professor, English Chair, International Education Committee Nassau Community College One Education Drive Garden City, NY 11530 O: (516) 572-7612 F: (516) 572-8134 newmanr@ncc.edu www.ncc.edu richard.j.newman@verizon.net=20 www.richardjnewman.com http://richardjeffreynewman.blogspot.com =A0 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 22:02:03 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Loretta K. Clodfelter" Subject: 580 Split Call for Submissions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 580 Split has issued a call for submissions of poetry, prose, and art to its eighth issue. The 580 Split reading period will begin July 1 and extend through November 1. Please check out our website for submission information: http://www.580split.com. In addition, our seventh issue has just been released, with work by Douglas Basford, Scott Bentley, Laynie Browne, David Harrison Horton, Lucy Jilka, Jesse Nissim, Stephen Ratcliffe, Erik Sandberg, Padcha Tuntha-Obas, Tom Whalen, and others. Not far from our office at Mills College in Oakland, California, the 580 Split is a risky jumble of ramps, overpasses, and interchanges, where highways cross, merge, intersect, and branch out in every direction. 580 Split, an annual journal of arts and literature, is both the convergence and divergence of many roads: a place of risk and possibility. We publish innovative and experimental prose, poetry, and art. 580 Split Mills College P.O. Box 9982 Oakland, CA 94613-0982 www.580split.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 07:16:38 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Thomas savage Subject: Re: why poetry is eating itself alive - steve, tom In-Reply-To: <20050601173911.AB5B813EFB@ws5-9.us4.outblaze.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, I for one have no interest in dominating discussion on this list about anything, especially this particular issue. Since I found myself, thanks to Steve, compared to the Buddha, I've been trying to respond appropriately to that. I am not the Buddha. I haven't even achieved the first stage of enlightenment called sotapanna in Pali or "stream entry." This, perhaps the equivalent of satori in Mahayana erases all doubts in the path. Since doubts arise in me all the time, I figure I still have a ways, perhaps a long ways to go. Nevertheless, I have been a practicing and studying Buddhist for many years thus Buddhist ideas like egolessness turn up in my poems frequently. Nevertheless, Steve, don't mistake the finger pointing at the moon for the moon itself. I am merely that finger. As to you at Furniture Press, it can be said that I or you, any of us can both be said to exist and not to exist. To accept only one part of the paradox is to err. As for egotism, which I see everywhere, as much in artistic communities as outside it in the so-called real world, that seems to exist whether or not the ego's statements we hear in our heads are illusions or not. Whether I am guilty of egotism with regard to discussion, all I can say on this possible question is I hope not. Also, to keep this message reasonably brief, I will end my part of it here, for the moment. Should any of you care to respond to this further discussion, I look forward to reading whatever you say and may respond at a future time. furniture_ press wrote:Obviously the discussion is or is not being well taken care of or badly treated as if a chil and/or adult sitting/standing at the margin/center of the fray/giftgiving. tom is right and wrong to say what he says and does not say, when he is saying it or not saying it. he makes sense to us and doesn't make sense so that we're always and never sure or unsure of what exactly precisely indefinately saying or not saying. tom, what steve is saying is this. tom, steve, this is a good beginning and/or ending end/or anding. or else am i making sense by not? poetry we'll have to take seriously and poetry we'll have to take even more seriously, the latter being one of respect and the former of brilliance that we can't escape its brilliance. deem it brilliant i may you could say it can't and we come to something closer by farther away. poetry was eating itself (masticating, as jean hartig says, my best friend and enemy to poetry) and i told her not to assimilate the idea by assimilating it to either poetry or poetry, because there's always three sides of the coin: poetry is in the middle of masticating itself. i feel that it will soon be possible that poetry will be matriculating itself after the eating is done. i wanted to say 'the eat' but a number of institutions that are not on my side provide no vacancy for such ideas. poetry wanted to say something too, but i repressed it, along with (tom and steve)'s outcry for dominance on a poetics list made up of human and non-human subjects. case in point: i have met several people on the list, in public. to name a few i won't. it has occured to me that since charles and co. established the list, using names of prominant and not so prominant and, people like me, not wanting prominance, have built a long dialogue (in this case narrative since charles and co. at buffPOdept. have been singlehandedly creating all posts to the list, except mine (which is a flaw in my theory)and by which people who THINK they're on this list believe that they themselves are posting. for example: steve dalachinsky: "man o man chris what's going on with lautreamont?" steve d has no idea he's writing this because no one is writing this. the existence of a malpractice suit in the hands of a wordsmith resinates with suspect handwriting claws. it states that charles and co. are making it up as they go, yet again revolutionizing POlitics, POlitics just to get it right, by making it their history. thus poetry has integrated itself into the surroundings of this list, my letter to steve and tom and co. if they exist. it has matriculated into a curriculum of deafening proportion. the world teaches science courses and snow eludes the weathermen, alluding, i'll say, to what kerouac said, in an unpublished letter to harry smith in 1957, "harry, butter? get it, man? like, wow!" at the end or the beginning of the discussion or silence let me make a point to speak or not to speak on the issue. christophe "pastamassima" casamassima p.s. to whomever it may concern : i've no use for a serious poetry. it's all very humorous. like a bone. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas savage" To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: why poetry is eating itself alive Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 08:25:12 -0700 > > Hi Steve. I'm glad someone reads my messages. I've just been kidding around on this issue or > statement from Furniture Press. I suspect the ego has as much or as little to do with it as it > usually does with my poetry, assuming that the ego can be said to exist which, to a Buddhist, is > questionable. I don't know what you see as egotistical in what I've said about poetry > eating/poetry eating itself alive but that's okay. Like I say, I'm glad someone but me is > reading these things. > > Steve Dalachinksy wrote:tom did yer ego get in the way there? > > why if they're good should they be independent of yer ego > and not i'm assuming when they're bad? > > good or bad the ones i hear you read seem to have been written by > BUDDHA? > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com www.towson.edu/~cacasama/furniture/poae baltimorereads.blogspot.com zillionpoems.blogspot.com -- _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for just US$9.95 per year! Powered by Outblaze --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing & more. Check it out! ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:02:45 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: John Latta Subject: A new interview (fwd) Comments: To: new-poetry@wiz.cath.vt.edu Comments: cc: WOM-PO@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU, BRITISH-POETS@JISCMAIL.AC.UK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Something that may be of some interest to some. Often cheeky, often tongue-in-cheek. John http://herecomeseverybody.blogspot.com/2005/05/john-latta-lives-in-ann-arbor-and.html ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 21:08:00 -0400 From: Lance Phillips To: coursingpublicthought@earthlink.net Subject: A new interview Hello all, There's a new interview up at Here Comes Everybody (http://herecomeseverybody.blogspot.com). It's John Latta. I hope you all will take a look. Thanks. Lance PS Deadline: June 1, midnight ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( Lance Phillips http://lancephillips.blogspot.com [web log] Writers on writing at http://herecomeseverybody.blogspot.com Corpus Socius (Ahsahta Press) ISBN 0-916272-71-0 http://ahsahtapress.boisestate.edu/books/phillips.htm Cur aliquid vidi (Ahsahta Press) ISBN 0-916272-82-6 http://ahsahtapress.boisestate.edu/books/phillips2.htm ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:18:22 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Applegate Subject: Commend, re-commend. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Big up A.Badiou for these "15 Theses on Contemporary Art" (found @ = www.lacan.com) =20 1. Art is not the sublime descent of the infinite into the finite = abjection of the body and sexuality. It is the production of an infinite = subjective series through the finite means of a material subtraction. 2. Art cannot merely be the expression of a particularity (be it ethnic or = personal). Art is the impersonal production of a truth that is addressed = to everyone. 3. Art is the process of a truth, and this truth is always the truth of = the sensible or sensual, the sensible as sensible. This means: the = transformation of the sensible into a happening of the Idea. 4. There is necessarily a plurality of arts, and however we may imagine = the ways in which the arts might intersect there is no imaginable way of = totalizing this plurality. 5. Every art develops from an impure form, and the progressive purification= of this impurity shapes the history both of a particular artistic truth = and of its exhaustion. 6. The subject of an artistic truth is the set of the works which compose = it. 7. This composition is an infinite configuration, which, in our own = contemporary artistic context, is a generic totality. 8. The real of art is ideal impurity conceived through the immanent = process of its purification. In other words, the raw material of art is = determined by the contingent inception of a form. Art is the secondary = formalization of the advent of a hitherto formless form. 9. The only maxim of contemporary art is not to be imperial. This also = means: it does not have to be democratic, if democracy implies conformity = with the imperial idea of political liberty. 10. Non-imperial art is necessarily abstract art, in this sense: it = abstracts itself from all particularity, and formalizes this gesture of = abstraction. 11. The abstraction of non-imperial art is not concerned with any = particular public or audience. Non-imperial art is related to a kind of = aristocratic-proletarian ethic: Alone, it does what it says, without = distinguishing between kinds of people. 12. Non-imperial art must be as rigorous as a mathematical demonstration, = as surprising as an ambush in the night, and as elevated as a star. 13. Today art can only be made from the starting point of that which, as = far as Empire is concerned, doesn't exist. Through its abstraction, art = renders this inexistence visible. This is what governs the formal = principle of every art : the effort to render visible to everyone that = which for Empire (and so by extension for everyone, though from a = different point of view), doesn't exist. 14. Since it is sure of its ability to control the entire domain of the = visible and the audible via the laws governing commercial circulation and = democratic communication, Empire no longer censures anything. All art, and = all thought, is ruined when we accept this permission to consume, to = communicate and to enjoy. We should become the pitiless censors of = ourselves. 15. It is better to do nothing than to contribute to the invention of = formal ways of rendering visible that which Empire already recognizes as = existent.=20 *** =20 Also love to G.Agamben for presenting the possibility of a mankind which = may exist fundamentally as 'the lazy rascal' in "The Open: Man and Animal" = (Stanford U. Press).=20 =20 Check it! =20 your pal, =20 David Applegate. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 10:54:45 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: Re: why poetry is eating itself alive - steve, tom Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 i think i may have erred in hypothesizing the all-writ nature of charles an= d co. perhaps a new hypothesis can be stated in the context of this discuss= ion: if buddha is the presence writing all posts, and we actually have the exper= ience and memory of this action, that is if we're actually doing the writin= g, then we are all buddhas. it's also very funny to use the words "that is" because it's universal. jus= t think how many writers use the term "that is". it's like gertrude stein a= ttack, like hamburger.=20 it's actually pretty funny to think this post will be an hour long, a spont= aneous outbreak of ideas according to tom's behaviors in cyberspace. steve = i hope you'll get involved in this too, if you have time. i'll give some ex= amples of a day's thinking. many friends i talk to and many who i've never talked to, whom i'm assuming= might be in the same position as we/us, i mean all of us, we're so conscio= us of history. we know even libraries know that they're eventually going to= approach a writer and ask for his/her papers, buying them and building a c= atalogue of their life's work so that future generations may have a context= . in like fashion my friends and colleagues are already preparing their pap= ers, young artists they are, by filing them and saving every piece of mail = that comes to them. how has e-mail changed that? well, no more typesetting = that's for sure! it's all cut and paste and layout now. so easy. so if we'r= e going to talk about poetry eating itself we should also turn to our frien= ds and colleagues, first, and then to ourselves in the context of this orga= nization of lifework, and do something along the lines of getting the mater= ial out of the way and returning to a state of orality (just joking, maybe,= we'll see). imagine if we meet our elders in order to gather information a= bout their peers and friends and colleagues? but take it a step further, an= d look at the possible irony of the situation. lies come easily.=20 i'm embarking upon a project of disinformation. my friend jean, who i menti= oned in my last post and may be privy to all this soon, if i let her in on = it, told me one night that she feels like, i can't remember the word she us= ed but it was close to fraud, something along those lines, because she, now= i can't remember why she thought so, but i think it had to do with her inv= olvement in the writing and and doing of poetry and of it being involved wi= th other writers. i think her main point was that she was being lauded by h= er peers but she didn't think she was doing anything purposeful, meaningful= , in the long run, and she couldn't understand why there was so much optimi= sm in something so elusive. thusly we arrived at a point of eating. with all the illusions in the world= that if something is added or taken away like must happen to what it is be= ing added to or taken away from. eating is an illusion, poetry eating itsel= f alive is a total paradox of faith: we do poetry and nothing happens. we f= eed it and it gets smaller. we ignore it it gets bigger. the eating metapho= r is wearing me down because it is a special kind of problem that we've jus= t skimmed the surface of, and now with the introduction of buddhist pratice= and thought and this eating behavior i want to start to make connections. = and thusly jean is right, we are frauds, if we are going to think like this= , about making the connections here on/in this space and come to a conclusi= on that we all can understand, by equating, with words, a buddhism and eati= ng. like tom said about the moon and the act of pointing to the moon, writi= ng these equations is poiting to the moon, but the text itself is the moon,= or is it the reading and responding to it the moon? or is the moon the moo= n?=20 what we're basically imparting to our peers and friends is disinformation, = and they know it. that is, they know nothing. who knows something? we can d= efine and move further away from definition. just to introduce derrida for = a moment and then let him sleep comfortably, we define words with words, wh= ich need to be defined by more words, so it is futile, an endless defining,= communication can become an endlessnessism. and the words pour forth from = my legs. respond, welsh, automobile, docile, italy. verb, adjective, noun, adjective, noun. jean is right about our writing poetry, and my project of disinformation fe= eds on that teet. why is it so hard for me to read poetry that keeps pointi= ng? i can't even fathom an instant where i'm writing lyric as narrative, us= ing all this symbology to enhance my understanding: the days are long and arduous, now that the ladder has been lifted to the barn's second window. mom always asks, "how does it lean so?" the wind is virile with pink sleep. none of it happened. i can't write right. and the writing of this letter no= w is total shit because it is a thought pattern. i can manifesto all i want= , but then it sounds like a dance. the fraud of it lies in the breaking down of the text, like one of this siz= e, and preparing it for nothing. today is not a day of associations, and i'= ve exhausted my thoughts. now i'm playing with the idea that out of all thi= s will come something, and it's been 35 minutes. where am i going with this? ah, i've been trying now for 35 minutes to make= the associations, consciously, of what eating and the moon and pointing to= it have in common. everything. it has nothing in common with everything. d= epends on who's looking.=20 it is a custom to be at least legible when we talk to people. i'll let ego = in the way now. my life is surrounded by people who constantly ask me to ei= ther make sense or to fit in with social con vention so that it is possible= for people to take me seriously. i'm not so much worried about being misun= derstood than me compromizing my nature and that is to be spontaneous (but = with a little forethought - i am a bit of a child at heart). what i really wanted to do was to list events of action and non-action so t= hat i may not say anytyhing, so that you can read and respond as was like i= n the last few days. and i needed then to bring in this idea that buddhism = is not really foreign to me but i can do some more learning, and that catho= licism is what i was brought into. this world. perhaps my big break from th= e iconoclastic nature of catholicism, the law, the dogma, the ritual, is my= bringing upon myself a paranoia of sense. that's it! that's the breakthrou= gh! i have a grand paranoia of making sense to someone. I AM UNWILLING TO MAKE SENSE BECAUSE I AM RESPONDING TO MY CATHOLIC INHERIT= ANCE. i'm not even very familiar, i mean i do remember most of the service during= mass, and i do remember some of the laws but i'm now wholly sure what the = jist of a catholicism is. i'm even afraid, no, not afraid, but unwilling to= come to terms with it by bringing it out in the open with my peers, becaus= e when we start to talk about catholicism, everyone goes bonkers. this kid = at the park, a teenager, said two daysd ago something like, well, i can't r= emember exactly what he said but it was either he's against the idea of god= , like he's an atheist, or that people, oh now i remember, he said "people = who believe in god/go to church are narrow mined. believe me, i should know= ". well, i believe in god (not an avid churchgoer though i should be, i wan= t to, hell, i'm admitting it to my peers!) but i'm not close minded, judgem= ental, yes, stubborn, of course, but not close minded! but these are some o= f the things i hear people say about refusing to believe in a god because o= f the institution's pratices.=20 here is my idea: i have friends who left their church because of reasons of "brainwashing/mi= litarism/sexism/cover ups" but are avid believers in god and have found new= , less restrictive churches. this church actually said that if they leave t= heir church they're leaving god. oppression under god's name? hmm, and let = us take it out of bounds for a second: using an object in a word's name? th= e whole pointing thing is equal to this. we use god's name to defend an ins= titution's practice and laws; we use words to defend an object's being. all= point for a reason. the reason is arbitrary. now i do believe that if an i= nstitution is using a name to defend itself, the name eventually goes bad a= nd we can't trust either the intitution nor the name. we're at a dead end. = i don't want to ascribe any solutions but this is something to think about.= =20 so why my distrust in poetry? this whole idea of eating? it has to do with = this unsaid symbology. all poetry in the traditional sense of finding meani= ng so that we may understand the nature of things. i know this is all retro= active, it's all been said before. i don't know where i'm going to go with = this idea, it does inform my writing.=20 i'm tired now. THERE MUST BE SOMETHING IN THIS THAT IS FAIR. CHRIS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas savage" To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: why poetry is eating itself alive - steve, tom Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 07:16:38 -0700 >=20 > Hi, I for one have no interest in dominating discussion on this list abou= t anything, especially=20 > this particular issue. Since I found myself, thanks to Steve, compared t= o the Buddha, I've been=20 > trying to respond appropriately to that. I am not the Buddha. I haven't= even achieved the=20 > first stage of enlightenment called sotapanna in Pali or "stream entry." = This, perhaps the=20 > equivalent of satori in Mahayana erases all doubts in the path. Since do= ubts arise in me all=20 > the time, I figure I still have a ways, perhaps a long ways to go. Never= theless, I have been a=20 > practicing and studying Buddhist for many years thus Buddhist ideas like = egolessness turn up in=20 > my poems frequently. Nevertheless, Steve, don't mistake the finger point= ing at the moon for the=20 > moon itself. I am merely that finger. As to you at Furniture Press, it = can be said that I or=20 > you, any of us can both be said to exist and not to exist. To accept onl= y one part of the=20 > paradox is to err. As for egotism, which I > see > everywhere, as much in artistic communities as outside it in the so-cal= led real world, that=20 > seems to exist whether or not the ego's statements we hear in our heads a= re illusions or not.=20=20 > Whether I am guilty of egotism with regard to discussion, all I can say o= n this possible=20 > question is I hope not. Also, to keep this message reasonably brief, I w= ill end my part of it=20 > here, for the moment. Should any of you care to respond to this further = discussion, I look=20 > forward to reading whatever you say and may respond at a future time. >=20 > furniture_ press wrote:Obviously the discu= ssion is or is not=20 > being well taken care of or badly treated as if a chil and/or adult sitti= ng/standing at the=20 > margin/center of the fray/giftgiving. >=20 > tom is right and wrong to say what he says and does not say, when he is s= aying it or not saying=20 > it. he makes sense to us and doesn't make sense so that we're always and = never sure or unsure of=20 > what exactly precisely indefinately saying or not saying. >=20 > tom, what steve is saying is this. >=20 > tom, steve, this is a good beginning and/or ending end/or anding. or else= am i making sense by=20 > not? >=20 > poetry we'll have to take seriously and poetry we'll have to take even mo= re seriously, the=20 > latter being one of respect and the former of brilliance that we can't es= cape its brilliance.=20 > deem it brilliant i may you could say it can't and we come to something c= loser by farther away. >=20 > poetry was eating itself (masticating, as jean hartig says, my best frien= d and enemy to poetry)=20 > and i told her not to assimilate the idea by assimilating it to either po= etry or poetry, because=20 > there's always three sides of the coin: poetry is in the middle of mastic= ating itself. i feel=20 > that it will soon be possible that poetry will be matriculating itself af= ter the eating is done. >=20 > i wanted to say 'the eat' but a number of institutions that are not on my= side provide no=20 > vacancy for such ideas. poetry wanted to say something too, but i repress= ed it, along with (tom=20 > and steve)'s outcry for dominance on a poetics list made up of human and = non-human subjects. >=20 > case in point: i have met several people on the list, in public. to name = a few i won't. it has=20 > occured to me that since charles and co. established the list, using name= s of prominant and not=20 > so prominant and, people like me, not wanting prominance, have built a lo= ng dialogue (in this=20 > case narrative since charles and co. at buffPOdept. have been singlehande= dly creating all posts=20 > to the list, except mine (which is a flaw in my theory)and by which peopl= e who THINK they're on=20 > this list believe that they themselves are posting. for example: >=20 > steve dalachinsky: "man o man chris what's going on with lautreamont?" >=20 > steve d has no idea he's writing this because no one is writing this. the= existence of a=20 > malpractice suit in the hands of a wordsmith resinates with suspect handw= riting claws. it states=20 > that charles and co. are making it up as they go, yet again revolutionizi= ng POlitics, POlitics=20 > just to get it right, by making it their history. >=20 > thus poetry has integrated itself into the surroundings of this list, my = letter to steve and tom=20 > and co. if they exist. it has matriculated into a curriculum of deafening= proportion. the world=20 > teaches science courses and snow eludes the weathermen, alluding, i'll sa= y, to what kerouac=20 > said, in an unpublished letter to harry smith in 1957, "harry, butter? ge= t it, man? like, wow!" >=20 > at the end or the beginning of the discussion or silence let me make a po= int to speak or not to=20 > speak on the issue. >=20 > christophe "pastamassima" casamassima >=20 > p.s. to whomever it may concern : i've no use for a serious poetry. it's = all very humorous. like=20 > a bone. >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thomas savage" > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Re: why poetry is eating itself alive > Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 08:25:12 -0700 >=20 > > > > Hi Steve. I'm glad someone reads my messages. I've just been kidding ar= ound on this issue or > > statement from Furniture Press. I suspect the ego has as much or as lit= tle to do with it as it > > usually does with my poetry, assuming that the ego can be said to exist= which, to a Buddhist,=20 > > is > > questionable. I don't know what you see as egotistical in what I've sai= d about poetry > > eating/poetry eating itself alive but that's okay. Like I say, I'm glad= someone but me is > > reading these things. > > > > Steve Dalachinksy wrote:tom did yer ego get in the way there? > > > > why if they're good should they be independent of yer ego > > and not i'm assuming when they're bad? > > > > good or bad the ones i hear you read seem to have been written by > > BUDDHA? > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com >=20 >=20 >=20 > www.towson.edu/~cacasama/furniture/poae > baltimorereads.blogspot.com > zillionpoems.blogspot.com >=20 >=20 > -- > _______________________________________________ > Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net > Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for ju= st US$9.95 per year! >=20 >=20 > Powered by Outblaze >=20 >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------- > Discover Yahoo! > Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing & more. Check it out! www.towson.edu/~cacasama/furniture/poae baltimorereads.blogspot.com zillionpoems.blogspot.com --=20 _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for just= US$9.95 per year! Powered by Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 09:11:18 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joel Weishaus Subject: Book Review MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Review of "The Healing Spirit of Haiku" in Philadelphia Enquirer: http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/magazine/daily/11771400.htm -Joel ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 19:43:26 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jukka-Pekka Kervinen Subject: xStream #28 online Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit xStream #28 is now online ! Please check from http://xstream.xpressed.org Available both as free PDF and as paperback. More information on the website. Hope you enjoy ! Sincerely, Jukka-Pekka Kervinen Editor http://xstream.xpressed.org email: xstreamzine@gmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 13:35:27 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Halvard Johnson Subject: Announcement: Lannan Fellowships to Bobby & Lee Byrd Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Great news! Bobby and Lee Byrd of El Paso's Cinco Puntos Press have been awarded Lannan Cultural Freedom Fellowships. Info. on the Lannan Cultural Freedom program at www.lannan.org . Hal Halvard Johnson halvard@earthlink.net halvard@gmail.com website: http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard blog: http://entropyandme.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 14:15:35 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Craig Allen Conrad Subject: ROTTEN FRUIT! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Philadelphia Gay News and every other gay news platform is making it clear that they are behind the newest push for gay American soldiers to be OUT to serve. This is just amazing to me, considering the world our military is creating. Let me put it this way BOYS! You want to join a military MOST of the world now sees as the darkest force since Nazi Germany. Thousands and thousands of innocent lives have been taken (and thousands more yet to be taken), lives, people, silenced, for good. You want to be part of this killing, this silencing of human life, but are crying that you can't do it with a rainbow sticker on your machine gun? Oh, you poor, poor baby! Sacrificing your voice about your homosexuality is the LEAST you can offer the lives you are so fucking eager to take! Am I the rotten banana in the fruit basket for saying this? So be it! A queer voice against war, against queer/straight/other soldiers killing, CAConrad _http://PhillySound.blogspot.com_ (http://phillysound.blogspot.com/) "If the white man wants to live in peace with the Indian he can live in peace. Treat all men alike. Give them all the same law. Give them all an even chance to live and grow. All men were made by the Great Spirit Chief. They are all brothers." --Chief Joseph, Washington DC, 1879 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 14:25:10 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Pierre Joris Subject: Re: Recommended Summer Reading In-Reply-To: <1c4.295a76e8.2fcb8d0e@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable _Place_ by Allen Fisher _I never knew what time it was_ by David Antin _Grenzgang_ by Nico Helminger _ Company of Moths_ by Michael Palmer _Notes No Answer_ by Dale Smith _pleasureTEXTpossession_ by Maria Damon & mIEKAL aND _The Complete Elegies of Sextus Propertius_ translated by Vincent Katz _Conductors of the Pit_ (2005 Soft Skull Edition) translations by =20 Clayton Eshleman of Artaud, Holan, C=E9saire, Vallejo etc. _Fond de trois=E8me oeil_ by Matthieu Messagier _Quinn's Passage_ by Kazim Ali _The Open: Man and Animal_ by Giorgio Agamben _Grenz=FCberschreitungen in der Dichtung Paul Celans_ Simone Schmitz _Paul Celan und Gottfried Benn: Zwei Poetologien nach 1945_ Agis Sideras _Arab Women Writers (An anthology of short stories)_ ed. Dalya Cohen-Mor _The Miniature Epic in Vandal Africa_ bt David F. Bright _Po=E9tiques crois=E9es du Maghreb_ ed. by Charles Bonn _Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World_ by Jack Weatherford =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D "Lyric poetry has to be exorbitant or not at all." -- Gottfried Benn =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D For updates on readings, etc. check my current events page: http://albany.edu/~joris/CurrentEvents.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Pierre Joris 244 Elm Street Albany NY 12202 h: 518 426 0433 c: 518 225 7123 o: 518 442 40 85 email: joris@albany.edu http://www.albany.edu/~joris/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:09:19 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetry Project Subject: Events at the Poetry Project 6/3-6/8: LAST EVENTS OF THE 39TH SEASON! Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable OUR LAST EVENTS OF THE 39TH SEASON--HOPE TO SEE YOU HERE! Friday, June 3, 8:00 pm, FREE Spring Workshop Reading Participants in the five spring workshops of Maggie Dubris, Robert Fitterman, Merry Fortune, Drew Gardner, and Patricia Spears Jones will read from their work.=20 =20 Monday, June 6, 8:00 pm Jim Behrle & Sarah Gambito Jim Behrle=B9s She=B9s My Best Friend is forthcoming from Pressed Wafer. His cartoons and poems appear at http://thejimside.blog-city.com. Behrle will b= e reading with the Boston improvisational collective (Dear Old) Stockholm Syndrome, which features former/current members of Abunai!, Leda Ensembles, The Lothars, Nisi Period, and the Revolutionary Snake Ensemble. (Their instruments include a theremin and a lap-steel!) Sarah Gambito is the autho= r of Matadora (Alice James Books 2004). Her poems have appeared in The Iowa Review, The Antioch Review, The New Republic, Quarterly West, Fence, and other journals. She is co-Founder of Kundiman, a non-profit organization serving emerging Asian-American poets, and lives in New York City. =20 Wednesday, June 8, 8:00 pm Hilton Obenzinger & Chris Stroffolino Hilton Obenzinger is the author of Cannibal Eliot and the Lost Histories of San Francisco, New York on Fire, This Passover Or The Next I Will Never Be in Jerusalem, American Palestine: Melville, Twain, and the Holy Land Mania, and a*hole, among many others. He teaches advanced writing and American literature at Stanford University. Chris Stroffolino is the author of Speculative Primitive (Tougher Disguises), Stealer=B9s Wheel, and Oops, as well as several chapbooks. His book of essays and reviews, Spin Cycle, was published by Spuyten Duyvil in 2001. He was visiting professor at St. Mary=B9= s College in Moraga, California from 2001-2004. June 10, 2005 at 6:30 pm A Gertrude Stein Salon, Celebrating the world premiere GERTRUDE STEIN INVENTS A JUMP EARLY ON City University New York Martin E. Segal Theatre Center 365 Fifth Avenue at 34th Street New York City, NY 10016 For more information: Call (718) 398-4675 Or visit http://www.steinopera.com (Events) This free educational program sponsored by Encompass New Opera Theatre, entitled A Gertrude Stein Salon, will include a panel discussion with the collaborators of Gertrude Stein Invents A Jump Early On (poet Karren LaLond= e Alenier, composer William Banfield, dramaturg/director Nancy Rhodes) and three authors who have written about Stein. Sarah Bay-Cheng, author of Mama Dada: Gertrude Stein's Avant-Garde Theater; Barbara Will, author of Gertrud= e Stein, Modernism and the Problem of "Genius"; and Brenda Wineapple, author of Sister Brother: Gertrude and Leo Stein. Musical excerpts from the opera will illuminate the discussion. The SPRING CALENDAR: http://www.poetryproject.com/calendar.html The Poetry Project is located at St. Mark's Church-in-the-Bowery 131 East 10th Street at Second Avenue New York City 10003 Trains: 6, F, N, R, and L. info@poetryproject.com www.poetryproject.com Admission is $8, $7 for students/seniors and $5 for members (though now those who take out a membership at $85 or higher will get in FREE to all regular readings). We are wheelchair accessible with assistance and advance notice. For more info call 212-674-0910. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:39:59 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Bill Marsh Subject: Creeley Honored in Los Angeles This Friday Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed [sent on behalf of Mark Salerno] Dear Colleagues: I'd like to invite you to join us as we gather to remember and honor the late Robert Creeley. The event will be held this Friday evening in Hollywood. Participants: Eileen Myles Marjorie Perloff Lewis MacAdams Mark Salerno Peter Coyote John Daley Anselm Hollo* Michael C. Ford Peter Levitt* Bill Marsh Rae Armantrout Louise Steinman Location: Skylight Books 1818 N. Vermont Avenue Los Angeles, CA 90027 323-660-1175 Date: Friday, June 3, 2005 Time: 7:30 p.m. Hope you can make it. Mark Salerno * Anselm Hollo and Peter Levitt will be virtually there, i.e., their parts will be presented on audio tape. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:42:18 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Betsy Andrews Subject: Anne Waldman's cell? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, can someone back-channel me with her cell phone number? She asked me to give it to these folks who are organizing a benefit for a Palestinian theater company, but I can't find it anywhere...thanks. "The world is full of paper. Write to me." --Agha Shahid Ali __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:47:38 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Simon DeDeo Subject: why furniture is eating itself alive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Lack of audience. People don't want to sit any more. With the invention of the computer, there is no longer a need for flat surfaces to rest things on. In the meantime, furniture is becoming less and less accomodating to the human form. Bathtubs used to have claw feet. Corruption in high places. The best furniture is forced to exist in little rooms, while second rate knockoffs of old design fill the banquet halls of the wealthy. Everybody has an interest in perpetrating this system, including the gaskets. Increasing isolation. Furniture doesn't talk to anything other than other pieces of furniture. Wealthy furniture does not stand next to poor furniture, or folk furniture, which is poorly made but expressive. Furniture has never been popular. Nobody has liked furniture. It has always been for a small segment of the elite who choose to educate themselves in furniture. There was a time when people learned to make furniture by heart, but none of it was any good, natch. In conclusion: take humorous furniture seriously. Suppress the autophagic urge of the sofa. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:52:25 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: What Indians And Palestinians Share MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What Indians And Palestinians Share Land and Freedom "Like the European colonization of America, the colonization of Palestine began with the imperial mindset that particularly flourished in the 19th century. We give Israel billions of dollars annually in aid, weapons and political support to underwrite those 19th-century colonial practices for which, surely, most 21st century Americans and Europeans are ashamed, however much they may want to forget....We cannot return to colonial America to undo the degradation of our own native peoples. But we can act to make sure ethnic cleansing doesn't continue in Palestine, now, in our names and with our money." What Indians And Palestinians Share by Justine McCabe - Znet; May 31, 2005 Controversy over Indian rights in Connecticut recently intensified when the federal government reversed its recognition of Stonington's Eastern Pequots and Kent- based Schaghticoke tribes. Overall, officials and the public appear pleased. Attorney General Richard Blumenthal said, "One reason this is so historic is because no positive recognition decision has been reversed before. This is a first for the nation, which makes it all the more significant and satisfying," according to The Litchfield County Times. Clearly, it's not satisfying for Connecticut's indigenous peoples as their rights and attachment to the land continue to be challenged even centuries after first contact with European settlers. Due-process arguments put into high relief the irony experienced by America's native peoples in obtaining recognition: they must prove they exist. They must demonstrate that their people and cultures actually survived government intentions to eradicate them and seize land on which survival depended. Meanwhile, the original injustice is submerged in a bureaucratic system organized to disavow it: even applying for BIA recognition costs millions, encouraging many tribes to resort to casino investors despite their corruption of traditional native values. Indian participation (let alone success) in this admittedly suspect process arouses only insecurity and hostility among my non-Indian Kent neighbors. Tellingly, references to original dispossession and the enduring traumatic impact of European contact are circumvented. Expressions of collective responsibility or apologies are absent. Most Americans experience a kind of collective denial about our shameful history. Yet its legacy lives dangerously on -- not just at home but also in our foreign policy. As Attorney General Blumenthal began challenging Schaghticoke recognition, then- Palestinian presidential candidate Mahmoud Abbas was visiting some of the 400,000 Palestinian refugees in camps in Lebanon, reassuring them that their right to return to their homes in what is now Israel would not be abandoned in future negotiations. There are more than 6 million Palestinian refugees who have been waiting to go home since the 1947-49 Naqba("catastrophe"). Most refugees live within 60 miles of their former homes, some close enough to see and weep for lost orchards and fields. Like America's native peoples, Palestinians bear the burden of proof of their existence and right to their ancestral lands. Possession of keys and deeds, or official registration as refugees with the U.N. haven't succeeded. Neither has international law. In fact, in keeping with several bodies of law, the U.N. explicitly conditioned Israel's 1949 U.N. admittance on its implementation of Resolution 194 affirming Palestinians' inalienable right to return home. Despite this, Israel has refused to allow its native peoples to return. The U.S. has implicitly supported this since the Truman administration. Indeed, American Indian dispossession is older than that of the Palestinians. But the same national formative act -- and its denial -- constitute a significant component of the "special relationship" touted between the U.S. and Israel. This denial begs attention to fully explicate the complacency of American foreign policy in the face of undeniable antipathy toward the U.S. that has only grown since the invasion and occupation of Iraq. Like Americans, Israelis "know" what their own historians have amply documented: Palestinian dispossession is the foundation of their state. Between 1947 and 1949, more than 75 percent of the native population was expelled by Zionist forces that seized their lands for exclusive Jewish-Israeli use. Then, in 1967, 35 percent of the population of Palestinian Gaza and the West Bank were forced out, some made refugees twice in a generation. But for Palestinians and Israelis, this colonial past is present. Every day since 1967, the 3.3 million Palestinians in the Occupied Territories continue to experience the post-modern version of manifest destiny: 400,000 Jewish settlers facilitate an ongoing Israeli land grab -- 200,000 during the Oslo "peace" period. In the past four years alone, Israel confiscated over 56,000 acres of Palestinian land, razed another 18,000 acres of farmland, uprooted over 1.1 million trees. Over 250 miles of Israeli-only bypass roads and hundreds of checkpoints have created more than 200 disconnected Palestinian reservations. Even if Israel evacuates Gaza, Prime Minister Sharon insists that the huge (illegal) West Bank settlements will stay. His intention is underscored by the soon-to-be-completed "separation" wall, which will seize another 15 percent of West Bank land and leave 600,000 Palestinians in an open-air prison between it and the Green Line. Meanwhile, Israel's non-Jewish citizens cannot rent, own or live on "state" lands reserved exclusively for Jews -- 93 percent of the country. Under Israel's Law of Return, any Jew born anywhere can immigrate to Israel and become a citizen, yet indigenous refugees cannot go home. Why does Israel continue violating international law? Its answer embraces that historically familiar -- but no less ethnocentric -- assertion: to maintain its "Jewish" character. Yet even within the Green Line, Israel is now, and has always been, a multicultural land where about 28 percent of its citizens are non-Jews, including at least 20 percent who are Palestinian. But to the world's formerly colonized people -- the vast majority of the world's population--there's strong identification with the injustice to Palestinians that sustains hostility toward Israel and the U.S., and threatens the security of Americans as well as Israelis. At the deepest psychological level, American Indians and Palestinians bear witness to the fact that human attachment to home and land can neither be dismissed nor divided by politicians with impunity. But it's not too late. Israel has not reached the entrenched U.S. condition that reduced American Indians to less than 1 percent of our population (about a third of whom live on reservations to which they were confined over a century ago). Instead, 78 percent of Jewish-Israelis occupy only 15 percent of the country, making it feasible for Palestinian refugees to return to largely unoccupied land with little displacement of Israelis living there now. Sharing the land is a matter of fairness and international will, not viability. Like the European colonization of America, the colonization of Palestine began with the imperial mindset that particularly flourished in the 19th century. We give Israel billions of dollars annually in aid, weapons and political support to underwrite those 19th-century colonial practices for which, surely, most 21st century Americans and Europeans are ashamed, however much they may want to forget. We cannot return to colonial America to undo the degradation of our own native peoples. But we can act to make sure ethnic cleansing doesn't continue in Palestine, now, in our names and with our money. Justine McCabe, Ph.D., is a cultural anthropologist and clinical psychologist who lives in New Milford. http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=107&ItemID=7983 ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Be a friend to the oppressed and an enemy to the oppressor" \ --Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib (as)\ \ "This mathematical rhythmatical mechanism enhances my wisdom\ of Islam, keeps me calm from doing you harm, when I attack, it's Vietnam"\ --HellRazah\ \ "It's not too good to stay in a white man's country too long"\ --Mutabartuka\ \ "As for we who have decided to break the back of colonialism, \ our historic mission is to sanction all revolts, all desperate \ actions, all those abortive attempts drowned in rivers of blood."\ - Frantz Fanon\ \ "Everyday is Ashura and every land is Kerbala"\ -Imam Ja'far Sadiq\ \ http://scratchcue.blogspot.com/ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html \ http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_comments/766_0_15_0_C/ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date\ \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/ \ "For African people on the continent the image of Afrikans in America is that of a bunch of heavily armed Black men who only stop fighting each other long enough to put a dollar in Chocolate Thunda's thong at tha strip club."\ --min paul scott --"How MTV Underdeveloped Africa: Pistols, Pimps and Pan Africanism"\ \ M.E.D.I.A.: (MisEducation Destroying Intelligent Afrikans)\ \ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THCO2/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:57:58 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: [razapress] raza prison conference MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Please help disseminate the bulletin below. Send to everyone on your e-mail list. Venceremos! ----------------------------------------------- Chicano Mexicano Prison Project (CMPP) Conference On Raza Prisoners Bulletin No. 3, June 1, 2005 Justice And Liberation! Not Incarceration! Conference On Raza Prisoners And Colonialism Sat., June 25, 2005 Rudy Acuña Cultural Center/Cafe On A Street 438 South “A” Street Oxnard, CA (805) 487-8170 I. Introduction To CMPP and Prison Conferences II. Objectives of Conference III. Concerns/Issues of Conference IV. Tentative Program V. Who Should Attend The Conference? VI. Partial List of Endorsers I. Introduction The CMPP was founded in 1993 and is a member of the Raza Rights Coalition, a coalition under the leadership of Union del Barrio. Since its inception, the CMPP’s work has been guided by three general objectives: 1. Raise the social political consciousness of Raza prisoners and win them over to the struggle for the national liberation of Mexicanos and away from crime. 2. Expose to our communities and the world, the role that prisons play in maintaining capitalism, imperialism, and colonialism. 3. Struggle for the human rights of all prisoners. In an effort to bring into fruition our objectives, for over 10 years the CMPP has been in the forefront of the struggle for the human rights of Raza prisoners and in educating our communities to the role that the prison system plays in the oppression and colonization of La Raza. Guided by our three general objectives, the CMPP has organized hundreds of actions. These actions have included: community education (walking through the barrios and talking to people), forums and workshops, anti-prison brutality demonstrations, yearly conferences, and the mailing of educational material to hundreds of Raza. The prison conferences themselves have served as centros, or information/ideological institutions, for Raza prison activists to come together to (1) share and learn from each other's experiences, (2) move forward the importance of organization to our struggle and consolidate the network of prison activists, (3) connect the question of prisons to the Mexican national liberation struggle, and (4) to unite with all progressives forces in the fight against the capitalist-imperialist globalization of prisons as institutions of social control and profit making. These continue to be the general objectives of the conferences. A particularly important focus of this year’s conference is to connect the question of prisons within the current borders of the United States (Occupied America), the war on terrorism, and the resistance of masses throughout the world to global capitalism and neo-imperialism. A book, titled Jail The Oppressor, Free The Oppressed was published in 2002, which incorporates much of the information gathered from past conferences and ten years of the CMPP activism. II. Objectives of Conference Organized under the theme Justice and Liberation, Not Incarceration, this year’s conference has three concrete objectives. They are: 1. Build The Movement. Bring together at least 50 activists. We are talking about activists who are already involved in the prison rights anti-imperialist/globalization movement or are interested in becoming part of this movement. 2. Consolidate Our Efforts and Resources. Bring at least 10 organizations to join and support the conference and consolidate the network of those those working on the prison issue. A broad network of Raza activists will be consolidated in order to make our work more effective. 3. Contribute To The Developing Of Liberation Information. The publishing of a post-conference book/document on proceedings of conference as a way of educating prisoners, our community, and allies/friends in struggle, will be a priority. III. Conference Focus/Concerns The conference will focus on four key areas: 1. Stop Terrorism and Inhumane Treatment Within Prisons: Addressing the question of the SHUs, Gang Violence, Guard Abuse, Psychological and Physical Terror, from a national liberation perspective. 2. Prisoner Rights and Organizing In The Pintas: What Organizations are doing regarding Freedom/Defense Committees and Campaigns, Organizing Prisoners, and Prisoner/Family Assistance Programs. 3. Raising Consciousness: Connecting The Prison Rights Struggle To Liberation Consciousness Raising in the Community/Schools, Within The Movement, and Building A Network of Raza Prison Activists (NRPA). 4. Globalization/Imperialism and Questions of Prisons: Building and Uniting Nationally-Internationally With Progressive Forces To End The Mass Imprisonment of Poor and Working Class People. IV. Conference Agenda (tentative) 12:00 Registration/Refreshments 12:30 Welcome/and Keynote Speaker 1:00 First and Second Sessions (concerns/focus) 2:30 Break 2:45: Third and Fourth sessions (concerns/focus) 4:15 Break 4:30 Summation and Closing Statements V. Who Should Attend The Conference? We strongly encourage the following to attend the conference: 1. Raza activists who believe in the self-determination and national liberation of Raza and want to learn more about the connection between prisons and the oppression of the great majority of nuestra Raza. 2. Anti-global/Anti-Imperialist Activists who see the growing imprisonment as a means by which capitalism-imperialism seeks the social political control of the masses, with the objective of facilitating the exploitation of their labor and the world’s natural resources. 3. Social Justice Activists who want to eliminate brutality/torture chambers in prisons, here within the belly of the beast, and throughout the world. 4. Community residents, teachers, health workers, and students, who want to end the growing incarceration of Raza, specially youth, and develop alternative programs that will provide adequate school funding and relevant education (Raza Studies, Critical Pedagogy, Democratic Schooling, etc.), job development, and health services (one fourth of all prisoners suffer from mental health problems). 5. Women Rights Activists who recognize and want to something do regarding the fact that the fasting growing sector of society who are being imprisoned are women, many who are sexually abused in prison, and their children sent to foster homes and detention centers. 6. Raza/Chicano Studies Scholars and Students who want to learn more about the 20% of our population (men, women, and youth) who are either incarcerated or tied (through parole, probation, etc.) to the so-called criminal justice system. VI. Conference Endorsers (Partial List) *Barrio Defense Committee *Mexicano Unidos En Defensa del Pueblo *Brown Berets de Aztlan *African People’s Socialist Party *African People’s Solidarity Committee *Alvaro Hernandez Defense Committee * Homies Unidos *Theresa Azochar Chapter-Coalition for Women Prisoners-San Diego*Association of Raza Educators *Irish Republican Socialist Movement *MEChA de UCR *MEChA de El Camino *MEChA de Fullerton *MEChA de UC Davis *MEChA SDSU *UCR Mexicans *Artistas Unidos *Estamos Unidos *Center for Community Action and Environmental Justice *Frente Latinoamericana *Red Ciudanada Salvadoreña *L.A.I.S.O *Student Coalition for Peace and Human Rights at UCR *Multicultural Student Organization *Students for Social Justice (Pasadena City College) *Southern California Human Rights Network *A.N.S.W.E.R. L.A. *San Gabriel Valley Neighbors for Peace and Justice *Frente Indigena de Organizaciones Bi-nacionales *Prison Focus *La Raza Graduate Student Association UCLA *Raza Press Association (RPA) *United Front Against The SHU *Voz Fronteriza This year’s conference will be dedicated to the memory of activist and liberation fighter Rodolfo Corky Gonzales. ____\ Stay Strong\ \ "Be a friend to the oppressed and an enemy to the oppressor" \ --Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib (as)\ \ "This mathematical rhythmatical mechanism enhances my wisdom\ of Islam, keeps me calm from doing you harm, when I attack, it's Vietnam"\ --HellRazah\ \ "It's not too good to stay in a white man's country too long"\ --Mutabartuka\ \ "As for we who have decided to break the back of colonialism, \ our historic mission is to sanction all revolts, all desperate \ actions, all those abortive attempts drowned in rivers of blood."\ - Frantz Fanon\ \ "Everyday is Ashura and every land is Kerbala"\ -Imam Ja'far Sadiq\ \ http://scratchcue.blogspot.com/ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html \ http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_comments/766_0_15_0_C/ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date\ \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/ \ "For African people on the continent the image of Afrikans in America is that of a bunch of heavily armed Black men who only stop fighting each other long enough to put a dollar in Chocolate Thunda's thong at tha strip club."\ --min paul scott --"How MTV Underdeveloped Africa: Pistols, Pimps and Pan Africanism"\ \ M.E.D.I.A.: (MisEducation Destroying Intelligent Afrikans)\ \ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THCO2/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:05:35 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: Furniture Out of Commission Until August Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Hi, Sarah and I are shutting down Furniture's doors for a few months because: 1. 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You can order it from your usual retailer (including amazon.co.uk), or=20= by sending a cheque to REALITY STREET for =A318 sterling ($45 US, $55=20 CAN, =8030), which covers postage & packing. Go to http://www.realitystreet.co.uk for more. Ken Edwards Reality Street Editions 63 All Saints Street Hastings, East Sussex TN34 3BN www.realitystreet.co.uk ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 17:00:19 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Robert Corbett Subject: Re: comedy and humor In-Reply-To: <7e432a7e4262.7e42627e432a@nyu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit the distinction between the humourous (and profound) Fielding and the comic (usually, witty, rather, and superficial) Sterne is a very old critical topos. Sterne is often praised for his wit, but then often written off as not typically English--more "French" really if you get my meaning. indeed, the French are often spoken of as witty, but the English as humorous in the 18th century. there is something that is being said in this discussion, but I would be aware of how interested the parties were in mapping particular positions about what is humourous and what is comic (notice, also, that the terms are parallel, exactly). just to add though to the theoretical apercus here, I have always liked Hobbes' description: "Laughter is sudden glory." That just knocks me out -- every time. Robert --- Christopher Leland Winks wrote: > Dear Aaron, > > I just read Kenneth Rexroth's "Classics Revisited," > and he approaches > the distinction between humor and the comic on > several occasions, > notably when discussing the work of Henry Fielding > and Laurence > Sterne. It's not "theoretical" (whatever that is, > really), but as a > work of comparative literary criticism, it's > endlessly thought- > provoking, as indeed all of Rexroth's critical work > is. > > Best, > > Chris > ____ I will discuss perfidy with scholars as if spurning kisses, I will sip the marble marrow of empire. I want sugar but I shall never wear shame and if you call that sophistry then what is Love? - Lisa Robertson ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 22:55:23 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: alexander saliby Subject: summer reading lists MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you read Kunstler, (that's James H.) you may come to realize this is = one of the last ten or twelve summers you'll get to enjoy as members of = an oil consumers' society. =20 Do read: The long Emergency: Surviving the end of the Oil Age... =20 Sort of depressing reading, but clearly enough stuff to scare hell out = of simple minds like mine.=20 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 07:17:46 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Thomas savage Subject: Re: why poetry is eating itself alive - steve, tom In-Reply-To: <20050602155445.362C413EFB@ws5-9.us4.outblaze.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Chris. I hope you're getting this on some computer if not your own. There are at least two general kinds of Buddhism-- Mahayana and Theravada. The kind I studied and practice as much as possible is Theravada, the Buddhism of Burma, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Cambodia, etc. In Mahayana, it is possible that we all are or will become Buddhas. Many people become Bodhisattvas, Buddhas in training so to speak. In Theravada, however, there is only one Buddha for each world-cycle. Ours was Siddhartha Shakyamuni who lived around 500 B.C. It will be millions of years before another one rolls around in the next world cycle. I hope your computer gets fixed soon or replaced. I enjoy this discussion. Regards, Tom Savage furniture_ press wrote:i think i may have erred in hypothesizing the all-writ nature of charles and co. perhaps a new hypothesis can be stated in the context of this discussion: if buddha is the presence writing all posts, and we actually have the experience and memory of this action, that is if we're actually doing the writing, then we are all buddhas. it's also very funny to use the words "that is" because it's universal. just think how many writers use the term "that is". it's like gertrude stein attack, like hamburger. it's actually pretty funny to think this post will be an hour long, a spontaneous outbreak of ideas according to tom's behaviors in cyberspace. steve i hope you'll get involved in this too, if you have time. i'll give some examples of a day's thinking. many friends i talk to and many who i've never talked to, whom i'm assuming might be in the same position as we/us, i mean all of us, we're so conscious of history. we know even libraries know that they're eventually going to approach a writer and ask for his/her papers, buying them and building a catalogue of their life's work so that future generations may have a context. in like fashion my friends and colleagues are already preparing their papers, young artists they are, by filing them and saving every piece of mail that comes to them. how has e-mail changed that? well, no more typesetting that's for sure! it's all cut and paste and layout now. so easy. so if we're going to talk about poetry eating itself we should also turn to our friends and colleagues, first, and then to ourselves in the context of this organization of lifework, and do something along the lines of getting the material out of the way and returning to a state of orality (just joking, maybe, we'll see). im agine if we meet our elders in order to gather information about their peers and friends and colleagues? but take it a step further, and look at the possible irony of the situation. lies come easily. i'm embarking upon a project of disinformation. my friend jean, who i mentioned in my last post and may be privy to all this soon, if i let her in on it, told me one night that she feels like, i can't remember the word she used but it was close to fraud, something along those lines, because she, now i can't remember why she thought so, but i think it had to do with her involvement in the writing and and doing of poetry and of it being involved with other writers. i think her main point was that she was being lauded by her peers but she didn't think she was doing anything purposeful, meaningful, in the long run, and she couldn't understand why there was so much optimism in something so elusive. thusly we arrived at a point of eating. with all the illusions in the world that if something is added or taken away like must happen to what it is being added to or taken away from. eating is an illusion, poetry eating itself alive is a total paradox of faith: we do poetry and nothing happens. we feed it and it gets smaller. we ignore it it gets bigger. the eating metaphor is wearing me down because it is a special kind of problem that we've just skimmed the surface of, and now with the introduction of buddhist pratice and thought and this eating behavior i want to start to make connections. and thusly jean is right, we are frauds, if we are going to think like this, about making the connections here on/in this space and come to a conclusion that we all can understand, by equating, with words, a buddhism and eating. like tom said about the moon and the act of pointing to the moon, writing these equations is poiting to the moon, but the text itself is the moon, or is it the r eading and responding to it the moon? or is the moon the moon? what we're basically imparting to our peers and friends is disinformation, and they know it. that is, they know nothing. who knows something? we can define and move further away from definition. just to introduce derrida for a moment and then let him sleep comfortably, we define words with words, which need to be defined by more words, so it is futile, an endless defining, communication can become an endlessnessism. and the words pour forth from my legs. respond, welsh, automobile, docile, italy. verb, adjective, noun, adjective, noun. jean is right about our writing poetry, and my project of disinformation feeds on that teet. why is it so hard for me to read poetry that keeps pointing? i can't even fathom an instant where i'm writing lyric as narrative, using all this symbology to enhance my understanding: the days are long and arduous, now that the ladder has been lifted to the barn's second window. mom always asks, "how does it lean so?" the wind is virile with pink sleep. none of it happened. i can't write right. and the writing of this letter now is total shit because it is a thought pattern. i can manifesto all i want, but then it sounds like a dance. the fraud of it lies in the breaking down of the text, like one of this size, and preparing it for nothing. today is not a day of associations, and i've exhausted my thoughts. now i'm playing with the idea that out of all this will come something, and it's been 35 minutes. where am i going with this? ah, i've been trying now for 35 minutes to make the associations, consciously, of what eating and the moon and pointing to it have in common. everything. it has nothing in common with everything. depends on who's looking. it is a custom to be at least legible when we talk to people. i'll let ego in the way now. my life is surrounded by people who constantly ask me to either make sense or to fit in with social con vention so that it is possible for people to take me seriously. i'm not so much worried about being misunderstood than me compromizing my nature and that is to be spontaneous (but with a little forethought - i am a bit of a child at heart). what i really wanted to do was to list events of action and non-action so that i may not say anytyhing, so that you can read and respond as was like in the last few days. and i needed then to bring in this idea that buddhism is not really foreign to me but i can do some more learning, and that catholicism is what i was brought into. this world. perhaps my big break from the iconoclastic nature of catholicism, the law, the dogma, the ritual, is my bringing upon myself a paranoia of sense. that's it! that's the breakthrough! i have a grand paranoia of making sense to someone. I AM UNWILLING TO MAKE SENSE BECAUSE I AM RESPONDING TO MY CATHOLIC INHERITANCE. i'm not even very familiar, i mean i do remember most of the service during mass, and i do remember some of the laws but i'm now wholly sure what the jist of a catholicism is. i'm even afraid, no, not afraid, but unwilling to come to terms with it by bringing it out in the open with my peers, because when we start to talk about catholicism, everyone goes bonkers. this kid at the park, a teenager, said two daysd ago something like, well, i can't remember exactly what he said but it was either he's against the idea of god, like he's an atheist, or that people, oh now i remember, he said "people who believe in god/go to church are narrow mined. believe me, i should know". well, i believe in god (not an avid churchgoer though i should be, i want to, hell, i'm admitting it to my peers!) but i'm not close minded, judgemental, yes, stubborn, of course, but not close minded! but these are some of the things i hear people say about refusing to believe in a god because of the instituti on's pratices. here is my idea: i have friends who left their church because of reasons of "brainwashing/militarism/sexism/cover ups" but are avid believers in god and have found new, less restrictive churches. this church actually said that if they leave their church they're leaving god. oppression under god's name? hmm, and let us take it out of bounds for a second: using an object in a word's name? the whole pointing thing is equal to this. we use god's name to defend an institution's practice and laws; we use words to defend an object's being. all point for a reason. the reason is arbitrary. now i do believe that if an institution is using a name to defend itself, the name eventually goes bad and we can't trust either the intitution nor the name. we're at a dead end. i don't want to ascribe any solutions but this is something to think about. so why my distrust in poetry? this whole idea of eating? it has to do with this unsaid symbology. all poetry in the traditional sense of finding meaning so that we may understand the nature of things. i know this is all retroactive, it's all been said before. i don't know where i'm going to go with this idea, it does inform my writing. i'm tired now. THERE MUST BE SOMETHING IN THIS THAT IS FAIR. CHRIS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas savage" To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: why poetry is eating itself alive - steve, tom Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 07:16:38 -0700 > > Hi, I for one have no interest in dominating discussion on this list about anything, especially > this particular issue. Since I found myself, thanks to Steve, compared to the Buddha, I've been > trying to respond appropriately to that. I am not the Buddha. I haven't even achieved the > first stage of enlightenment called sotapanna in Pali or "stream entry." This, perhaps the > equivalent of satori in Mahayana erases all doubts in the path. Since doubts arise in me all > the time, I figure I still have a ways, perhaps a long ways to go. Nevertheless, I have been a > practicing and studying Buddhist for many years thus Buddhist ideas like egolessness turn up in > my poems frequently. Nevertheless, Steve, don't mistake the finger pointing at the moon for the > moon itself. I am merely that finger. As to you at Furniture Press, it can be said that I or > you, any of us can both be said to exist and not to exist. To accept only one part of the > paradox is to err. As for egotism, which I > see > everywhere, as much in artistic communities as outside it in the so-called real world, that > seems to exist whether or not the ego's statements we hear in our heads are illusions or not. > Whether I am guilty of egotism with regard to discussion, all I can say on this possible > question is I hope not. Also, to keep this message reasonably brief, I will end my part of it > here, for the moment. Should any of you care to respond to this further discussion, I look > forward to reading whatever you say and may respond at a future time. > > furniture_ press wrote:Obviously the discussion is or is not > being well taken care of or badly treated as if a chil and/or adult sitting/standing at the > margin/center of the fray/giftgiving. > > tom is right and wrong to say what he says and does not say, when he is saying it or not saying > it. he makes sense to us and doesn't make sense so that we're always and never sure or unsure of > what exactly precisely indefinately saying or not saying. > > tom, what steve is saying is this. > > tom, steve, this is a good beginning and/or ending end/or anding. or else am i making sense by > not? > > poetry we'll have to take seriously and poetry we'll have to take even more seriously, the > latter being one of respect and the former of brilliance that we can't escape its brilliance. > deem it brilliant i may you could say it can't and we come to something closer by farther away. > > poetry was eating itself (masticating, as jean hartig says, my best friend and enemy to poetry) > and i told her not to assimilate the idea by assimilating it to either poetry or poetry, because > there's always three sides of the coin: poetry is in the middle of masticating itself. i feel > that it will soon be possible that poetry will be matriculating itself after the eating is done. > > i wanted to say 'the eat' but a number of institutions that are not on my side provide no > vacancy for such ideas. poetry wanted to say something too, but i repressed it, along with (tom > and steve)'s outcry for dominance on a poetics list made up of human and non-human subjects. > > case in point: i have met several people on the list, in public. to name a few i won't. it has > occured to me that since charles and co. established the list, using names of prominant and not > so prominant and, people like me, not wanting prominance, have built a long dialogue (in this > case narrative since charles and co. at buffPOdept. have been singlehandedly creating all posts > to the list, except mine (which is a flaw in my theory)and by which people who THINK they're on > this list believe that they themselves are posting. for example: > > steve dalachinsky: "man o man chris what's going on with lautreamont?" > > steve d has no idea he's writing this because no one is writing this. the existence of a > malpractice suit in the hands of a wordsmith resinates with suspect handwriting claws. it states > that charles and co. are making it up as they go, yet again revolutionizing POlitics, POlitics > just to get it right, by making it their history. > > thus poetry has integrated itself into the surroundings of this list, my letter to steve and tom > and co. if they exist. it has matriculated into a curriculum of deafening proportion. the world > teaches science courses and snow eludes the weathermen, alluding, i'll say, to what kerouac > said, in an unpublished letter to harry smith in 1957, "harry, butter? get it, man? like, wow!" > > at the end or the beginning of the discussion or silence let me make a point to speak or not to > speak on the issue. > > christophe "pastamassima" casamassima > > p.s. to whomever it may concern : i've no use for a serious poetry. it's all very humorous. like > a bone. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thomas savage" > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Re: why poetry is eating itself alive > Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 08:25:12 -0700 > > > > > Hi Steve. I'm glad someone reads my messages. I've just been kidding around on this issue or > > statement from Furniture Press. I suspect the ego has as much or as little to do with it as it > > usually does with my poetry, assuming that the ego can be said to exist which, to a Buddhist, > > is > > questionable. I don't know what you see as egotistical in what I've said about poetry > > eating/poetry eating itself alive but that's okay. Like I say, I'm glad someone but me is > > reading these things. > > > > Steve Dalachinksy wrote:tom did yer ego get in the way there? > > > > why if they're good should they be independent of yer ego > > and not i'm assuming when they're bad? > > > > good or bad the ones i hear you read seem to have been written by > > BUDDHA? > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Check it out! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 07:24:32 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Thomas savage Subject: Mouth Play Four by Tom Savage Comments: To: Merry Fortune , John Hagen , Dan Machlin , Poetry Project , Carolyn Steinhoff , wryting Toronto , A Gathering of the Tribes , Bill Zavatsky MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mouth Play Four by Tom Savage will be performed at Medicine Show Theater on June 19th at 6:30 PM. The admission charge is $6. Medicine Show Theater is located at 549 W. 52nd St. 3rd Floor. This is a one time only staged reading of one hour of my full length verse play. Please come. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Ibn Pori Pitts ------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.markszine.com This site requires a minimum screen resolution of 800x600 for viewing. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:54:18 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: in Salt Lake City MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed - We're in Salt Lake City for the next week - if anyone wants to get in touch please call 718-813-3285 or email me here. We're on nomail because of the traveling - please backchannel, thanks. - Alan ( URLs/DVDs/CDroms/books/etc. see http://www.asondheim.org/advert.txt ) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 15:35:37 +0100 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: cris cheek Subject: Radio Taxi tonite Comments: To: BRITISH-POETS@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Between 6-12 this evening (GMT) A selection of programmes made by or with or in Coleridge Community=20 College including: - The landmark recording of the Rime of the Ancient Mariner featuring=20= the voices of all the pupils and staff. - Neighbourhood Is, a poem translated into the 17 languages spoken=20 fluently in the school. - Listening Life programmes recorded by Kirsten Lavers (Taxi Gallery)=20= Karl Hartland (209radio) and our Radio Club=92s Suite Sixteen = selections. + Interventions from the Radio Taxi Club. + works by: Tom Leonard, Caroline Bergvall, Chris Goode, Angelo di=20 Cintio and Karin Dolk=00 for more info and the emergent schedule for the rest of this weekend=20 (the last) go to: www.radiotaxi.org.uk there are also many pics of last weekend's epic apologies for cross-posting ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:30:33 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: Charles North, a letter Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Garner: Letter to Charles North Providing the library quake or distract, impoverish for that matter=97no, I would not give so much as a kenning=92s worth of impiety, to you nor anyone named you. At the corner of York and Walker (no,=20 Rome is another coast), renamed after, or before a war, we talked about what we weren=92t doing that summer. To you=20 (or something like it) I, in the light of Maquiera=92s=20 image of Chile (using just a handful of paper and all the words I can imagine at the back of a bus) O, to you Charles North I=92d give my wages. www.towson.edu/~cacasama/furniture/poae baltimorereads.blogspot.com zillionpoems.blogspot.com --=20 _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for just= US$9.95 per year! Powered by Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:24:57 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Nick Piombino Subject: Nick Piombino and Nick Kass Johnson read at the BPC Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Nick, Nick, Nick on Tuesday, June 7 at 6 p.m. I'll be reading with Nick Kass Johnson at the Bowery Poetry Club Nick Bredie and Alex Young, series curators (BPC is at Bowery, near Houston, across the street from CBGB's) hope to see you there -Nick Piombino ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:58:34 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Tod Edgerton Subject: Re: ROTTEN FRUIT! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Craig, you are of course not the only queer to stand against war and the imperialism of our gov't (on another note--Alain Badiou totally rocks!). Your logic, however, in saying that "sacrificing your voice about your homosexuality is the LEAST you can offer the lives you are so fucking eager to take!" is specious at best. "We" homosexuals, queers, bisexuals, trans, and etceteras certainly do not "owe" any one specific civil right for the lives "we" take as soldiers serving in the military. That queers could possibly want to join the military disappoints and exacerbates me every bit as much as it obviously frustrates you, but "we" etceteras have the right to be assholes, dupes, pawns, ideologues, and proto-fascists like everyone else. You're really harping on the wrong issue. How is it that any citizen in America could possibly have supported Dubbya in the first place, let alone (almost) elected him? How was it even close enough to be stolen?! And how could they -- "we" -- pos sibly re-elect him? How is it that people identify with the nation-state as a paternalistic figure whose word becomes self-founding truth, even despite facts to the contrary? If you're really so angry (as I hope everyone on this list is, though too much anger I believe can overwhelm you and become counter-productive), you should try investigating the machinations of these enabling psycho-social dynamics and how, possibly, to subvert them. Relieving homo-etceteras of their civil rights, confluent and complicit as that is with the militaristic-imperialist ethic of erasing difference--the better to be "disciplined" (its Foucauldian echoes raising the further issue/problematic of the identification, itself, with/as a "speciated" identity and its own imbrications with a psycho-social containment strategy)--is decidedly NOT the way. I do do do wish I could tell you what the magic route to the Solution was... Best, Tod Automatic digest processor wrote: Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 14:15:35 EDT From: Craig Allen Conrad Subject: ROTTEN FRUIT! The Philadelphia Gay News and every other gay news platform is making it clear that they are behind the newest push for gay American soldiers to be OUT to serve. This is just amazing to me, considering the world our military is creating. Let me put it this way BOYS! You want to join a military MOST of the world now sees as the darkest force since Nazi Germany. Thousands and thousands of innocent lives have been taken (and thousands more yet to be taken), lives, people, silenced, for good. You want to be part of this killing, this silencing of human life, but are crying that you can't do it with a rainbow sticker on your machine gun? Oh, you poor, poor baby! Sacrificing your voice about your homosexuality is the LEAST you can offer the lives you are so fucking eager to take! Am I the rotten banana in the fruit basket for saying this? So be it! A queer voice against war, against queer/straight/other soldiers killing, CAConrad _http://PhillySound.blogspot.com_ (http://phillysound.blogspot.com/) "If the white man wants to live in peace with the Indian he can live in peace. Treat all men alike. Give them all the same law. Give them all an even chance to live and grow. All men were made by the Great Spirit Chief. They are all brothers." --Chief Joseph, Washington DC, 1879 There's the mute probability of a reciprocal lack of understanding. - Mei-mei Berssenbrugge --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel & more fun for the weekend. Check it out! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 15:07:56 -0400 Reply-To: Ron Henry Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ron Henry Subject: AUGHT 14 now on-line Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline A new issue of AUGHT is now online, and offers another great line-up of new and established poets working in innovative forms and voices. Contributors to no. 14 are Laurie Price, Dina Alexander, Sheila E. Murphy, Michael Riley, Corinne Lee, Brian Hardie, N. Graham, Vernon Frazer, Michelle Greenblatt, Gregory Vincent St. Thomasino, Brad Flis, Steven Timm, Kristy Bowen, Thomas Fink, William Elmquist, Jim Toweill, Ian Seed, Diana Magallon, Peter Jungers, Jenna Cardinale, Maurice Oliver, Peter Jay Shippy, Mark Kanak, Douglas Barbour, Derek White, Wendy Collin Sorin, Steve Dalachinsky, Jukka-Pekka Kervinen, and Chris Piuma. The issue includes a special section of collaborative pieces in addition to the regular selection of new work. Find AUGHT at: http://people2.clarityconnect.com/webpages6/ronhenry/aught.htm --=20 Ron Henry, editor | ronhenry@clarityconnect.com AUGHT ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 14:30:18 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: A Poem Written in Dalachinsky's Handwriting Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Peramble through Preamble Discursive Leg Abider in Town & Count Down Hypoch ondria Vocation not Vaccination Sick of Instead Sickening Borderline Bleah Ramble Daffodilly San Tropez Tip-Toe through Toledo Liberate Tongue from Jowls of Life Circuitous Precinct Scamified Synapse Collapse in Styrofoam=20 Cup Tranquil Elephantizer Cheese and Checkers Dum Diddy Gum Drops I poke Fun at Faux Pas Syringe around the Cholera Ave Maleria Agamemnon Achoo Amen=20 & so on --=20 _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for just= US$9.95 per year! Powered by Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:18:01 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: "poem" Kit Robinson / Tolling Elves Comments: cc: "Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and poetics"@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU, POETRYETC@JISCMAIL.AC.UK, UK POETRY Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sometimes slight, modest appearing things suddenly get very large in volume & presence. I am writing of Kit Robinson's "poem" which just arrived in the mail. Two feather weight pieces of 8.5 x 10" gray paper folded in half, printed both sides and staple stitched together, complete with a full double page minimalist piece of art, a grid work by Ericka McConnell, that looks like a metal grated shop gate slashed with one dark splash of shadow. Indeed the segments/increments of Kit's work seems so appropriate to the grid as a format - each poem's space a rectangle somehow connected to the next one so that the entire sequence becomes a well ordered screen though which some sense of completed order finds its resonance. I leave a sample "increment", one of fourteen: The Smallest Increment Writing, as running, an exercise for the breath. A way of engaging time. Lest time take all away. A physical, sensual art, bound into the body, not evidently the stuff of pure ideation. Rhythm, always of the essence. Signs that the writer is still awake, attempting something, even Though... The smallest increment, a light or sound, being enough to satisfy, the impulse to record. Note lack of verbs. To say that something "does" something would already be too much. * The whole shot is available from: Tolling Elves 9 The Parade, Upper Brockley Road London SE4 1SX tevans21@hotmail.com It's actually a subscription series: 6 issues pounds 12/ $25 12 issues pounds 20 / $40 Your occasional roaming critic here, Stephen Vincent ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:06:55 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joe Brennan Subject: Ten Most Harmful Books of the 19th and 20th Centuries Comments: To: corp-focus@lists.essential.org, WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Click here: The Assassinated Press Ten Most Harmful Books of the 19th and 20th Centuries THE EDITORS They hang the man and flog the woman That steal the goose from off the common, But let the greater villain loose That steals the common from the goose. ".....at a time when I am speaking to you about the paradox of desire -- in the sense that different goods obscure it -- you can hear outside the awful language of power. There's no point in asking whether they are sincere or hypocritical, whether they want peace of whether they calculate the risks. The dominating impression as such a moment is that something that may pass for a prescribed good; information addresses and captures impotent crowds to whom it is poured forth like a liquor that leaves them dazed as they move toward the slaughter house. One might even ask if one would allow the cataclysm to occur without first giving free reign to this hubbub of voices...." ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:06:49 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Robert Corbett Subject: Re: comedy and humor In-Reply-To: <20050603000019.60274.qmail@web50406.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit one edit, one clarification of my previous post: there terms "comedy" and "humour" are _not_ strictly parallel, most specifically in that comedy is a mode or genre, while humor is a mood or stylistic element. and while I did want to say that it may be that the distinction being made is polemical and that one should keep in mind what scores are being settled, cui bono and follow the money (oh, My Friend you were a friend indeed), etc, at the same time I don't think the distinction or difference is _simply_ a matter of literary or political politics. there is something there, that is, between the comic and the humorous, but the terms themselves and distinctions being drawn may be doing other work at the same time. finally, another quote, this time from Sterne (out of something classical): "It is not things themselves, but men's [sic] opinions of them that cause perplexities in human affairs." --- Robert Corbett wrote: > the distinction between the humourous (and profound) > Fielding and the comic (usually, witty, rather, and > superficial) Sterne is a very old critical topos. > Sterne is often praised for his wit, but then often > written off as not typically English--more "French" > really if you get my meaning. indeed, the French > are > often spoken of as witty, but the English as > humorous > in the 18th century. > > there is something that is being said in this > discussion, but I would be aware of how interested > the > parties were in mapping particular positions about > what is humourous and what is comic (notice, also, > that the terms are parallel, exactly). > > just to add though to the theoretical apercus here, > I > have always liked Hobbes' description: "Laughter is > sudden glory." That just knocks me out -- every > time. > > Robert > > > > --- Christopher Leland Winks > wrote: > > > Dear Aaron, > > > > I just read Kenneth Rexroth's "Classics > Revisited," > > and he approaches > > the distinction between humor and the comic on > > several occasions, > > notably when discussing the work of Henry Fielding > > and Laurence > > Sterne. It's not "theoretical" (whatever that is, > > really), but as a > > work of comparative literary criticism, it's > > endlessly thought- > > provoking, as indeed all of Rexroth's critical > work > > is. > > > > Best, > > > > Chris > > > > > ____ > > I will discuss perfidy with scholars > as if spurning kisses, I will sip > the marble marrow of empire. I want sugar > but I shall never wear shame and if you > call that sophistry then what is Love? > - > Lisa Robertson > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 23:14:18 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "David A. Kirschenbaum" Subject: **Boog NYC Series Needs Yr Non-NY Press ASAP** Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi all, Season two of our "d.a. levy lives: celebrating the renegade press" series concludes next month, and the Thurs. July 7 date has recently opened up. If you edit a non-NY based small press, or know of a press you think might be interested, please backchannel me asap. The series is held at Chelsea's ACA Galleries, which is owned by the son-in-law and daughter of the poet Simon Perchik. The first thursday of each month i have a different visiting press host and feature their authors and, if they're able, musician(s) they know, or i find some musicians I know. The gallery provides wine and other beverages, and cheese and fruit. We started the series in august 2004. in our first two seasons we've hosted (or are due to host the final press listed) Meritage Press (San Francisco/St. Helena, Calif.), The Owl Press (Woodacre, Calif.), Tougher Disguises (Oakland, Calif.), Cy Press (Cincinnati, Ohio), above/ground press (Ottawa, Canada), a 20th anniversary party for Chax Press (Tucson, Arizona), The Tangent (Walla Walla, WA), Carve magazine (Ithaca, NY), and Braincase Press (Northampton, Mass.), Combo (Providence, R.I.), Talonbooks (Vancouver, Canada), Tripwire (San Francisco), Conundrum (Chicago), Ambit (Baltimore), a 30th anniversary party for Kelsey Street Press (Berkeley, Calif.), The Poker (Cambridge, Mass.), Ahadada Books (Burlington, Canada), Firewheel Editions/Sentence, a magazine (Danbury, Conn.), Habernicht Press (San Francisco), The Canary (Kemah, Texas), Duration Press (San Rafael, Calif.), and a+bend press (Davis, Calif.). best, david -- David A. Kirschenbaum, editor and publisher Boog City 330 W.28th St., Suite 6H NY, NY 10001-4754 For event and publication information: http://boogcity.blog-city.com/ T: (212) 842-BOOG (2664) F: (212) 842-2429 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 23:37:10 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ben Basan Subject: FW: CFP: Psychoanalysis, Community and 20th Century American Literature In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050602140001.01f103c0@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit ------ Forwarded Message From: Douglas Dowland (with apologies for cross-postings) Proposal for Panel PSYCHOANALYSIS, COMMUNITY, AND TWENTIETH-CENTURY AMERICAN LITERATURE For The Association for the Psychoanalysis of Culture and Society Annual Conference on PSYCHOANALYSIS AND COMMUNITY November 4-6, 2005 at Rutgers University Plenary Speakers: Willy Apollon and Eric Santner Douglas Dowland, The University of Iowa, Panel Chair What foundational psychoanalytic tensions are wrought out in the representation of community in literature? This panel seeks examples of how psychoanalytic theory and practice illuminates representations of communities in modern and contemporary American literature. Examples from all genres of literature, including canonical and non-canonical texts, will be considered. A variety of approaches, including orthodox and unorthodox psychoanalytic practices, are appreciated. Paper proposals should consider how tensions in communities are historically and politically influenced and how these tensions may be mitigated by the history and politics of psychoanalysis as practiced concurrently in America. In other words, how does "psychoanalysis" redefine "community" and how does "community" demand provide a necessary contour of psychoanalytic practice? Papers of a meta-commentary nature will also be considered, including how characters can separated from the community of the text to be analyzed discretely, and issues in the creation of a community in a text that may or may not correspond to an actual community. Ultimately, all paper proposals should focus in on the close reading of a text to yield psychoanalytic insight about communities as represented in the (potential) limitations of both literary and psychoanalytic texts. Paper proposals should be up to 500 words and sent as an e-mail attachment to by July 1, 2005. Please include a current C.V. with the proposal. ------ End of Forwarded Message ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 00:46:25 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Craig Allen Conrad Subject: Re: ROTTEN FRUIT! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael Todd, first, your saying, "you are of course not the only queer to stand against war and the imperialism" is said as though I said I was "The queer" when in fact I said "A queer against war." You do understand that, right? "A" not "The" ??? Second, to say that I "should try investigating the machinations of these enabling psycho-social dynamics and how, possibly, to subvert them" is your way of saying that I do not. You really don't know me to make such a claim on me, but if you would like to get to know me, that's another story. But back to the original argument, queers have a HUGE fucking history of shaking this country to the core! Queers marched in Selma, and were VERY much OUT against the Vietnam war. Yes there are many of us now who are opposed to this war in Iraq, but my point is that the queer "community" as a whole has shifted focus to whimper the "Let Him Serve" phrase over and over and fucking over and over! The pace has picked up since Memorial Day, all the queer media with their RIDICULOUS ads of sad men in uniform, that Fire Island kind of romance in the air, his boyfriend standing behind him with hand on shoulder. oh Brother it makes me sick! OOOO, how handsome he is in his uniform! Whatever! He's a fucking killer, period! And actually Michael, NO i do not agree that we get to be fascists, anymore than Jews get to be, or Germans, or anyone else! NO way man, that's fucking bullshit! I'm NOT about to agree with you! That's such bullshit right out of the mouth of HRC. The fucking Human Rights Campaign has a fucking Republican scumbag heading it now, and NO to that too! I'm NOT interested in tolerating Gay Republicans, ever! I say NO to letting queers into the army! EVER! We need to be our own fucking army and STOP this fucking war in Iraq and the war against the poor everywhere (like right down the street). CAConrad _http://PhillySound.blogspot.com_ (http://phillysound.blogspot.com/) "Art, instead of being an object made by one person, is a process set into motion by a group of people. Art's socialized." --John Cage, 1967 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 00:51:55 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Craig Allen Conrad Subject: POET-AGENT IN SEARCH OF TRANSVESTITE BOXER MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit POET-AGENT IN SEARCH OF TRANSVESTITE BOXER The pink, frilly, faggy clip to the chin of oppression! While the fringe of the queer community is forgotten, even censored, we will make our way through the ranks all champion boxers made as an emblem for their minority outcast peoples throughout history! Looking for the world's toughest, queer transvestite boxer dedicated to winning the heavyweight belt. Must be willing to wear pink gloves with drawings of Judy Garland's face hitting the high note to punch out Tyson's woman-beating sorry ass once and for all! From there we will take the gay and lesbian community back from the money-sucking gay republican scum whose 1969 counterparts fled out the back door of Stonewall, leaving the revolution in the hands of the fearless queens and dykes! Can you resurrect queens as backbone of queer leadership? Do you make the high heeled, bitch hammer grade? Do you have Sissy Pride? Interested in victory? Contact CAConrad at (215)563-3075, or CAConrad13@AOL.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 03:14:21 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Nate Dorward Subject: The Gig 18 Comments: To: lexiconjury@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The new issue at last.... THE GIG #18 -- Poems by David Ball, Michael Boughn, Kelvin Corcoran, Jean Day, Ralph = Hawkins, Peter Larkin, Andrew Levy, Douglas Manson, a.rawlings, Joan = Retallack, and Scott Thurston -- an essay by Peter Middleton on Robert Creeley and the poetics of = self-reflexivity -- & the usual full-to-bursting review section.....reviews of David = Miller, Peter Riley, Redell Olsen, Glenn Storhaug, Ric Caddel, Steve = Benson, Naomi K. Long, Robert Sheppard, John Matthias, Peter Dent, = Catherine Wagner, Tom Leonard, &c.... a brief section of minireviews by = the members of the Lexiconjury list.... A table of contents & some of the reviews are available online at = http://www.ndorward.com/poetry/magazines/gig18.htm Single issue:=20 $7.50 Cdn / $6 US (prices include airmail within North America) =A34.50 / 6 euros (prices include airmail overseas)=20 Three-issue subscription or three backissues:=20 $20 Cdn / $16.50 US (prices include airmail with North America) =A312 / 16.50 euros (prices include airmail overseas) =20 Please makes cheques out to "Nate Dorward" (109 Hounslow Ave, = Willowdale, ON, M2N 2B1, Canada); email: ndorward AT ndorward.com More info, various web-only goodies, &c at www.ndorward.com. Next up = this summer from The Gig: an expanded edition of Trevor Joyce's Take = Over / Undone, Say and the long-awaited volume of essays on Canadian = women's experimental poetries. PS: contributors & subscribers will receive their copies shortly.... ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 09:44:38 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "David A. Kirschenbaum" Subject: Massachusetts Lawmaker Pushes for Poet Laureate Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit here's the version from today's ny daily news: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MASSACHUSETTS_POET_LAUREATE?SITE=NYNY D&SECTION=NATIONAL&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT here's the text from there pasted here: Mass. Lawmaker Pushes for Poet Laureate By STEVE LeBLANC Associated Press Writer BOSTON (AP) -- Throughout its history, Massachusetts has been home and host to some of the nation's most celebrated poets, from Emily Dickinson and Henry Wadsworth Longfellow to Robert Lowell and Sylvia Plath. Despite that, the state has never had a poet laureate. However, that could soon change if lawmakers adopt a bill to create an official position of poet laureate. "With poetry there's no socio-economic or age bias," said Democratic State Rep. Anne Gobi. "This is a way to say 'Hey, the arts are important.'" The only duty for the poet named to the unpaid post would be to "act as a public emissary and advocate for poetry in the state," under the language of the legislation. Gobi said the idea for the bill started with a conversation she had with a friend in a local poetry writing group. The friend suggested Massachusetts, with its rich literary heritage, should have its own poet laureate. After doing research, Gobi agreed, noting that virtually every other New England state boasts an official laureate. Under the bill, the Massachusetts Cultural Council would be charged with coming up with a list of three candidates. The only requirement would be that they either live or work in the state. The list would then be sent to the governor, who would make the final choice for the two-year term. There should be no shortage of candidates. Prominent poets with ties to the state include former U.S. poet laureate Robert Pinsky, who teaches at Boston University, and Nobel laureate and Irish poet Seamus Heaney, who teaches at Harvard University. For those who prefer a grittier style, Massachusetts also is home to regular poetry slams where poets go head-to-head in bars, coffee shops and galleries, each hoping to wow the crowd and move on to the next round. The idea has met with some skepticism. "When I initially heard of it I thought it was a useless idea," said Louisa Solano, longtime owner and operator of the Grolier Poetry Book Shop in Harvard Square in Cambridge. "I'm just afraid in Massachusetts it would be too concentrated on Boston and Cambridge and forget the rest of the state." But the more she thought about it, the more she said she warmed to the idea - provided that whoever is named poet laureate isn't trapped in an insular literary world. "I would hope it is someone with good reading ability and writing ability but someone who also has an ability to reach out into the community," said Solano, who also writes poetry. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 18:35:01 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinksy Subject: Re: Furniture Out of Commission Until August MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit shit chris really sorry to hear this yuko and i wish you all the best steve ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:35:34 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Murat Nemet-Nejat Subject: Re: comedy and humor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 06/03/05 7:07:05 PM, robertmc00@YAHOO.COM writes: > ndeed, the French > > are > > often spoken of as witty, but the English as > > humorous > > in the 18th century. > > > It may be useful to look at the etymological derivations of the two words. "Wit" derives from the idea of perception, guidance, wisdom. It has to do with mind, intelligence. "Humorous" derives from the thery of humours. It has to do with excess, a defect (of character) due to imbalance. Almost, they are opposites. For instance, Elizabethan and Jacobean literatures (Shakespeare, Ben Jonson) create comedies of humor. Even the wit of Hamlet (obviously a great intelligence) falls apart, disintegrates in his humorous (melancholy) state and the state of Denmark. The 18th century "cleans up" humor and replaces with wit. Hazlitt's distinction between the two is seen through the 18th century: "Humor is, as it were, the growth of nature and accident; wit is the product of art and fancy." In my view, Coleridge's distinction between "imagination" and "fancy" is the same idea given a reverse spin: obsession is at the heart of poetic imagination. Put in another way, what is wit with no intimation of insanity? Murat ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:35:15 +0200 Reply-To: Anny Ballardini Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Anny Ballardini Subject: Re: comedy and humor In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline And we are again dealing with the borderline. Cannot remember who said it= =20 but it went like this: The difference between a good actor and a mad person is that the actor can= =20 reach the line, go through it and come back. Laughter could be seen, as one of my students pointed out last week, as th= e=20 brilliant outlet of intelligence. Laughter starting from an accepted and=20 always present irony but at the same time humble enough to twist what could= =20 be not desirable into a healthy open involving (can one also add for-giving= )=20 reaction. Anny Ballardini http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=3Dpoetshome Non serviam. Ni dieu ni ma=EEtre. On 6/4/05, Murat Nemet-Nejat wrote:=20 >=20 > In a message dated 06/03/05 7:07:05 PM, robertmc00@YAHOO.COM writes: >=20 >=20 > > ndeed, the French > > > are > > > often spoken of as witty, but the English as > > > humorous > > > in the 18th century. > > > > > >=20 > It may be useful to look at the etymological derivations of the two words= . > "Wit" derives from the idea of perception, guidance, wisdom. It has to do= =20 > with > mind, intelligence. "Humorous" derives from the thery of humours. It has= =20 > to do > with excess, a defect (of character) due to imbalance. Almost, they are > opposites. >=20 > For instance, Elizabethan and Jacobean literatures (Shakespeare, Ben=20 > Jonson) > create comedies of humor. Even the wit of Hamlet (obviously a great > intelligence) falls apart, disintegrates in his humorous (melancholy)=20 > state and the > state of Denmark. >=20 > The 18th century "cleans up" humor and replaces with wit. >=20 > Hazlitt's distinction between the two is seen through the 18th century: > "Humor is, as it were, the growth of nature and accident; wit is the=20 > product of art > and fancy." >=20 > In my view, Coleridge's distinction between "imagination" and "fancy" is= =20 > the > same idea given a reverse spin: obsession is at the heart of poetic > imagination. Put in another way, what is wit with no intimation of=20 > insanity? >=20 > Murat > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:46:26 -0700 Reply-To: ishaq1823@telus.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: Re: [Fwd: bc.indymedia.org] -- telus subscribers denied access to bc and vic indy media Comments: To: "wryt[L]" In-Reply-To: <42A1D7CE.8080106@telus.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit so i made an attempt to contact telus so they could explain the situation with the indymedia sites. i was put in touch with someone who said his name was ekemini (827170). he said that the http://bc.indymedia.org and http://victoria.indymedia.org sites do not exist. however, a friend who has shaw could access the site which i informed them of. this is when ekemini (827170) askes me to try this site http://cnn.com and askes me to read him the headline which was Suspected Al-Zarqawi deputy arrested in Iraq i asked him why? what the relevance was to this situation and he simply asked me to read it. instead i read him the other smaller headline: U.S.: Guards, detainees mishandled Quran after a longtime on hold the tech cameback and said that they would run a test around my area and location which turned out that that telus couldn't access the sites http://bc.indymedia.org nor the http://victoria.indymedia.org . from here i was informed that the problem and information and the results from my trace rout and ping test which i had to forward to them would be sent to "apps dept" -- they are the domain hosting service for telus. they would get back to me in 48hrs. strange times Ishaq wrote: > for your info (below is a note by one telus tech (peter tech #82359)) > > as visitor and contributor to the vic and bc indy media sites which has the most inforamtion on black politics, islam and muslim issues, as well as local police brutality, i wish to inform you that telus internet subscribers have been blocked from viewing your site for the past week and the problem still persists and is unresolved by telus. > > on june 2 i spoke with tech named ben who said that issue was with telus and it was being resolved within 24hrs. he also said that when he went to access the site it simply sent him to http://victoria.indymedia.org.com. however, when he spoke with a tech who did not use telus the site was reached. > i attempted to access the address 24hrs later and the attempt failed. > > on june 3 i spoke with peter who simply sent me this note after 1 hour of running around and being placed on hold countless times by him. peter (peter tech #82359) refused to do a trace route from telus and insisted that i preform the trace route which i did and the result was the the sites did not exist. > > on june 4 i spoke with jahan who refuse again to perform a trace route, placed me on hold and then refused to explain, said that it was "irellivant", as to why > telus members cannot reach the site and others can who are employed with telus but do not use telus as a server. each time i asked he accuse me of not "cooperting" and threaten to terminate unless i stop asking question and just do another trace route. any questions is asked we dodged. > > when as a telus subscriber, i, and apparently others, attempt to view the sites the connection times out or redirects the telus client to http://victoria.indymedia.org.com. we as telus subscribers are being denied access to the bc and victoria indie media sites. > > > sincerely > > ishaq > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: bc.indymedia.org > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 21:33:09 -0400 > From: Telus Technical Support > To: slash07@telus.net > > >tried to find this website but it does not exist. > >bc.indymedia.org or victoria.indymedia.org > >Please double check the address or try www.indymedia.org > > >Peter > > > > > > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:46:20 -0700 Reply-To: ishaq1823@telus.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: [Fwd: bc.indymedia.org] -- telus subscribers denied access to bc and vic indy media MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit for your info (below is a note by one telus tech (peter tech #82359)) as visitor and contributor to the vic and bc indy media sites which has the most inforamtion on black politics, islam and muslim issues, as well as local police brutality, i wish to inform you that telus internet subscribers have been blocked from viewing your site for the past week and the problem still persists and is unresolved by telus. on june 2 i spoke with tech named ben who said that issue was with telus and it was being resolved within 24hrs. he also said that when he went to access the site it simply sent him to http://victoria.indymedia.org.com. however, when he spoke with a tech who did not use telus the site was reached. i attempted to access the address 24hrs later and the attempt failed. on june 3 i spoke with peter who simply sent me this note after 1 hour of running around and being placed on hold countless times by him. peter (peter tech #82359) refused to do a trace route from telus and insisted that i preform the trace route which i did and the result was the the sites did not exist. on june 4 i spoke with jahan who refuse again to perform a trace route, placed me on hold and then refused to explain, said that it was "irellivant", as to why telus members cannot reach the site and others can who are employed with telus but do not use telus as a server. each time i asked he accuse me of not "cooperting" and threaten to terminate unless i stop asking question and just do another trace route. any questions is asked we dodged. when as a telus subscriber, i, and apparently others, attempt to view the sites the connection times out or redirects the telus client to http://victoria.indymedia.org.com. we as telus subscribers are being denied access to the bc and victoria indie media sites. sincerely ishaq -------- Original Message -------- Subject: bc.indymedia.org Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 21:33:09 -0400 From: Telus Technical Support To: slash07@telus.net tried to find this website but it does not exist. bc.indymedia.org or victoria.indymedia.org Please double check the address or try www.indymedia.org Peter ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:46:06 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Fulcrum Annual Organization: Fulcrum Annual Subject: FULCRUM 3 is still available! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fulcrum: an annual of poetry and aesthetics, Number Three, 2004, edited by Philip Nikolayev and Katia Kapovich Reviewed by Kevin Killian in Jacket at http://www.jacketmagazine.com/26/kill-fulc.html 510 pp., perfectbound. 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FULCRUM: AN ANNUAL OF POETRY AND AESTHETICS 334 Harvard Street, Suite D-2 Cambridge, MA 02139, USA phone 617-864-7874 e-mail editor@fulcrumpoetry.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 12:14:07 +0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: derekrogerson Organization: derekrogerson.com Subject: [job] Poetry Indexer - Granger's World of Poetry Web Site MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Location: New York, NY The Reference Division of Columbia University Press seeks indexers for a 6-18 month project. The successful candidates should be detail-oriented and meticulous and should have experience with databases as well as an interest in poetry. College degree required, preferably in English. Any experience in library cataloguing and/or copyediting would be useful. 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Like all systems, the listserv will sometimes be down: if you feel your message has been delayed or lost, *please wait at least one day to see if it shows up*, then check the archive to be sure the message is not posted there; if you still feel there is a problem, you may wish to contact the editors at . ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:33:25 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Re: [job] Poetry Indexer - Granger's World of Poetry Web Site In-Reply-To: <000001c56985$086104f0$0201a8c0@kaya> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > A subject of the poem in question is > assigned, so the indexer must be skilled at quickly skimming over the > texts to pick up the main theme. This sounds like fun! Are the "theme" possibilities pre-established for the indexer? For example, variables of overcoming or being overcome by "grief " "love " "war" "humor" "nature" "language theory" etc? Or is an indexer left on their inventive own? To the degree that such an index may direct a public search and/or use of a poem, sounds like the indexer is put in an odd position of power. I mean it sounds like poor poem could be pummeled by the reductive nature of an index. (Or what bookstore and library shelves - tangible searches - have over database reducium data). But do correct me if I am off the hook here, Stephen V Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:43:14 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: mIEKAL aND Subject: Re: [job] Poetry Indexer - Granger's World of Poetry Web Site In-Reply-To: <000001c56985$086104f0$0201a8c0@kaya> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit what does this say about the type of poetry book's they're indexing. so for instance the theme of Coolidge's Crystal Texts would be rocks? mIEKAL On Jun 4, 2005, at 11:14 PM, derekrogerson wrote: > A subject of the poem in question is > assigned, so the indexer must be skilled at quickly skimming over the > texts to pick up the main theme. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 01:04:43 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Nate Dorward Subject: Re: [job] Poetry Indexer - Granger's World of Poetry Web Site MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Or "language," I guess.... ;) all best --N Nate Dorward 109 Hounslow Ave, Willowdale, ON, M2N 2B1, Canada ndorward@ndorward.com // web: www.ndorward.com For info on recent publications: www.ndorward.com/poetry/ For the vast archive (updated monthly!) of music reviews: = www.ndorward.com/music/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 10:00:15 +0200 Reply-To: Anny Ballardini Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Anny Ballardini Subject: Re: [job] Poetry Indexer - Granger's World of Poetry Web Site In-Reply-To: <004701c5698c$1992b4b0$bd132a18@DC3NX221> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline That is why they are looking for experienced people and possibly with some= =20 knowledge in cataloguing. Which is anyhow the Babel of Babels again, I=20 remember this guy specialized in cataloguing who made me notice that a=20 simple book like Anna Frank could be set under : diaries, German literature= ,=20 historical documents (Second WW - Berlin), ... once given a number/code there it is going to be for a while. As usual who= =20 can guess better will get there quicker. Jack be clever _ Jack be quick _= =20 Jack jump over the candlestick _ cheers, and good luck! Anny Ballardini http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=3Dpoetshome I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing=20 star!=20 Friedrich Nietzsche=20 On 6/5/05, Nate Dorward wrote:=20 >=20 > Or "language," I guess.... ;) >=20 > all best --N >=20 > Nate Dorward > 109 Hounslow Ave, Willowdale, ON, M2N 2B1, Canada > ndorward@ndorward.com // web: www.ndorward.com >=20 > For info on recent publications: www.ndorward.com/poetry/ > For the vast archive (updated monthly!) of music reviews:=20 > www.ndorward.com/music/ > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 08:54:03 +0000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Evan Escent Subject: Australian Literary Resources Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed ALR needs volunteers to supply reviews, articles, essays, research material, interviews or bibliographies relating to Australian poets. Please write to John Tranter: ALR is a collection of Internet pages for Australian poets, with poems, reviews, biographies, bibliographies, memoirs, photographs, critical articles, and lots more. Work has been proceeding quietly on the Australian Literature Resources project at http://www.austlit.com/a/poe/index.html Recently updated: 1) Lionel Fogarty http://www.austlit.com/a/poe/foga/hopfer.html >Sabina Hopfer: Re-reading Lionel Fogarty: An attempt to feel into texts >speaking of decolonisation. This piece is 6,800 words or about twelve >printed pages long. [This complements this earlier item: > Lionel Fogarty >in conversation with Philip Mead, an interview that took place in Brisbane, >Australia, at the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Legal Service, on >Armistice Day, 11 November, 1994. It is about 18 printed pages long.] 2) Kate Lilley http://www.austlit.com/a/poe/lilley-k/index.html >Eighteen poems (from Jacket magazine): Discovery / Finally / In the Sun / >Lady-in-Waiting / Quality Control / As Is / Georgic / (say) when / say so / >Anamorphosis / Starry Messanger / Spruce / Lady in the Dark / It follows / >Sequel / Cento — Around Vienna / Miltonic / My Bad >Kate Lilley: This L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E (from Jacket 2) >Pam Brown reviews Versary, by Kate Lilley >John Wilkinson reviews Versary, by Kate Lilley, Salt Publishing 2002, pp98 3) Rae Desmond Jones http://www.austlit.com/a/poe/jones-r-d/index.html >Rae Desmond Jones: A selection of poems: Black dog / Writers have always >been an endangered species / Dino at la candela pizza / dear steven, / the >extra big mac / pig >John Tranter’s 1974 review of Orpheus With a Tuba, by Rae Desmond Jones, in >an omnibus review article in the Survey section of this site 4) John Kinsella http://www.austlit.com/a/poe/kins/index.html >A selection of (twenty-two) poems: Graphology 108 / Graphology 111 / >Graphology 112 / Graphology 114 / Graphology 115: Hobbies? / Graphology >116: Pre- Composition / Living Conditions. Cambridge / Cambridge Morning >Meditation / The leaden light / moral poetry in cambridge... / On the >Rejection of the Term “Property” for This Place (2001) / Amnesia (2001) / >Fog and Linnets (2001) / Visiting Wittgenstein’s Grave in Winter, 1999 / >And Everyone Gathered In Objection Yet Again (1999) / The Dam Busters >(1998) / Honest, Theocritus! (1997) / Five Ern Malley poems (1992) with an >Introduction: Aural Palette Yelp / cloven / Dark Eclipse / Careerism gone >mad verging on hubris / loy polloi love song >Cambridge Notes (1996) This piece is about five printed pages long. It was >written in 1996 when John Kinsella was first resident in Cambridge, >England. 5) joanne burns http://www.austlit.com/a/poe/burns-j/index.html >A selection of poems: dependence day / after reading Keats’ Ode on >Melancholy / carnal knowledge / golden triangle / another new year / >digital recording ( after eliot) / traffic / watchdog / marinations >A larger version of a photo of joanne burns at Bondi Promenade mid-1940s 6) Pam Brown http://www.austlit.com/a/poe/brown-p/index.html >A longer biographical note >A selection of poems: Anyworld / In Brittany / Leaning / I remember >dexedrine. 1970 / Twitching / Drifting topoi / Vapours / >Statements >Bibliography >In conversation with John Kinsella (from Jacket magazine, illustrated, 15 >pages) _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 11:24:22 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Rothenberg Subject: Michael Rothenberg change of address MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To Whom it May Concern, Michael Rothenberg, 1914 Pierce St., Hollywood, FL 33020. I will be away = for a couple of months and then returning to Hollywood, FL. I will be in = Hollywood through the end of the year. Anyone interested in contacting = me or Big Bridge should use this address. =20 Best, Michael Michael Rothenberg walterblue@bigbridge.org Big Bridge www.bigbridge.org ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 11:31:05 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Tod Edgerton Subject: Angry Fruit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit #1: DUDE -- Calm down. #2: It's Tod, not Todd; you do know how to read, yes? (Kidding.) #3: You just made me say "dude"! I never say dude. Do you understand the implications of making me say dude?! Okay, seriously, I'm not sufficiently well-versed in political theory--have not, sadly, read my Laclau and Mouffe, for instance, but I suppose, however non-radically democratic it may or may not be of me, that I do hold to the classical liberal doctrine that proposes the necessity of tolerating such despicable things as gay republicans and soldiers who want to "fiyt fer freedom" (I'm from Ky, I can say that). "Tolerating" them insofar as you do not attempt to legislate them out of existence (though would it were so...). When you say that queers should not be allowed to serve in the military, you sound like the fascist (no, I did not just say that you are one); they just seem ignorant and duped by a dominant ideology that I certainly believe would better be fought otherwise than by supporting its homophobic/heterosexist dimension. And have you even considered the element of class and our public educational system that is absolutely central to the question of how any given pers on comes to join the military (as a last-last resort, for many)/support of militarism? NO, I don't know you and perhaps you have considered this, but you haven't here so I AM asking--I can only go on what you present in your own posts. The onus is on you; if you don't want people to think you're single-minded about an issue, don't speak single-mindedly about it in a public forum. I also think the issue of self-identified,GLBTQs serving in the military is another issue altogether from whether or not our military should be in Iraq and whether or not we should even have a military at all, etc. It must be taken as a logical given that there is--not should or shouldn't be (a separate issue)--a military and, given that there is, I certainly believe that no person able and willing to serve should be prohibited from doing so on the basis of e.g., sex/gender or religion. Attacking people who do serve or would like to as monsters or murderers--however true you believe it to be--is a rhetorically counterproductive strategy that will only fuel their "patriotism" or whatnot. Perhaps you know this and were only venting on this list. Fine. Though the belief itself does seem somewhat short-sighted and simplistic to me, honestly. It seems as much an a- or un- ethical appropriation/projection/deflation of the Other, of others, as in the worst cases of the "Us and Them" mentality that enables and even engenders such violence in the first place. If you fight fire with fire you'll just burn the whole fucking place down. I think the analogy holds with literary censorship. Today, you say queers can't serve in the military; tomorrow, someone else rises to power and extends this to suffrage, government-funded programs ranging from student financial aid to medicare, etc. This is a simple argument, but I think it holds. It's all fine and well as long as you're getting your way, but what happens when someone you don't like starts geting theirs? This is why there have to be certain structural safeguards against the whims of any individual who may come to power. Just what makes you think banning queers from the military would make those that wanted to join any less militaristic or republican, anyway? Taboos have that wonderful way of engendering desire... I find it as disheartening and unbelievable as you that ANYBODY (why are you stuck and restricted to thinking this issue only in terms of queers?) would want to join the military, but I don't think your support of the republican ban on homosexuals in the military is a productive position. I don't think attempts to make change to a militaristic society should be couched in such militaristic terms as "We need to be our own fucking army" either. And who, exactly, is this "we" that claims "our" army? I thought every intellectual queer had read her Butler by now. Again, I do share your frustration over the phenomenon. Oh--and of course I know the difference between "a" and "the"; I don't have your exact wording before me, but your plea had all the passion of someone who really feels isolated in their position. Your response, which I think you meant in all seriousness, though I could certainly be wrong, is not only inordinately condescending and bitchy but makes you look ridiculously childish and defensive. Who is it, exactly, that you're fighting? Anyone who doesn't agree exactly with you? Ideologue is just another word for fascist, sweetie. I do think it would be great for you to write a cultural critique of the visual and verbal rhetoric of those ads and posters; certainly there should be such critique "from within." I hope ranting about it on this list with far less intellectual rigor or clarity than I'm sure you'd exhibit in a less casual piece of writing has helped you vent. That's not meant to be a slam or flame. I'm all for venting. If you want to further pursue it, though, I'd go for a more productive sublimation over the venting rant and write a poem or essay. Maybe you already have. Do you still have any of those images? You should use them! E-mail me a copy when it's finished. Best, Tod Automatic digest processor wrote: Date:Sat, 4 Jun 2005 00:46:25 EDTFrom:"Craig Allen Conrad" Subject:Re: ROTTEN FRUIT! Plain Text Attachment [ Download File | Save to Yahoo! Briefcase ] Michael Todd,first, your saying, "you are of course not the only queer tostand against war and the imperialism" is said as thoughI said I was "The queer" when in fact I said "A queer against war."You do understand that, right? "A" not "The" ???Second, to say that I "should try investigating the machinationsof these enabling psycho-social dynamics and how,possibly, to subvert them" is your way of saying that I do not.You really don't know me to make such a claim on me,but if you would like to get to know me, that's another story.But back to the original argument, queers havea HUGE fucking history of shaking this country to the core!Queers marched in Selma, and were VERY much OUT againstthe Vietnam war. Yes there are many of us now who are opposedto this war in Iraq, but my point is that the queer "community" asa whole has shifted focus to whimper the "Let Him Serve" phraseover and over and fucking over and over!The pace has picked up since Memorial Day, all the queer mediaw ith their RIDICULOUS ads of sad men in uniform, that Fire Islandkind of romance in the air, his boyfriend standing behind him withhand on shoulder. oh Brother it makes me sick! OOOO, how handsomehe is in his uniform! Whatever! He's a fucking killer, period!And actually Michael, NO i do not agree that we get to be fascists,anymore than Jews get to be, or Germans, or anyone else! NO way man,that's fucking bullshit! I'm NOT about to agree with you! That's suchbullshit right out of the mouth of HRC. The fucking Human Rights Campaignhas a fucking Republican scumbag heading it now, and NO to that too!I'm NOT interested in tolerating Gay Republicans, ever!I say NO to letting queers into the army! EVER! We need to be our ownfucking army and STOP this fucking war in Iraq and the war against thepoor everywhere (like right down the street).CAConrad_http://PhillySound.blogspot.com_ (http://phillysound.blogspot.com/)"Art, instead of being an object made by one person, is a processset into motion by a group of people. Art's socialized."--John Cage, 1967 There's the mute probability of a reciprocal lack of understanding. - Mei-mei Berssenbrugge __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: for the the subject was feggits ( pt3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit the only pure thing is god ***** Coo yah!!! alla big tings on lil tings make dem look like bigga figgas. Or is it thét prison gear don't fit ri on lil a nagas. However, the valley of the Cunanan crimeys keep wyelinout in rawdawgitude. Boops bwoy with a muscle cut ya. The kicks on those one. The vines on the other. Who got woht? Who kno who? Dem talk too much. Mistah Talkative Rude. Gangstas with the gift of gab. Assorted thug hen heterodoxy. cho! it's a good game. Hopefully it'll make a good movement. They had played it many times. Time to pray. This is Victoria in mouth of America Victoria a bitch gon the nigger rich Racis white dudes with dreads Neva heavy steppin to Satchmo Submit the fus reggae creation of West End Blues Negkahless rap lyrics Madchild wannbes actin shadey Moby and Majin Buu Absorb Def Jux fellows Spit and dis With a long play solo Imported Hip hop with no sense of self, sense or tempo Distorted casper rasta fire with no rebel pensive and the dublogical got jackt Smoken chronic like crack and actin loopy summon the anti-rebbi Too deep into the mystic Look coo soundbwoy stoosh yuh or not you jus bhuttuah Bungo punanny pickneys lost in redeye cellular digital This the Long Mile fuccin with the metaphysical = Sound silences + Words kill. ¡Ya! yo! Mark yuh Buu Stand firm on Shu Absorb More gather, with new homies and yard bwoys, in a semi-circle crowd up and pose deep in Me. He's take time off, from the bosie show, to answer his celliar, in front of the shoppin centre, by a Gap shop, in front of a busstop, further down a corner a Mickey D's and a Book shop of Chapters of stuff, in front of a busstop, with more kids, on the outside than on the in, pyrootin along Douglas, from cross Yates to the Dougie to the cam flooded city square in front of a busstop, to every other corner pass thét until it decays. Follow where yankie ships crowd bosie slaves In hotel room reststops Land here on a poppyshow tip for dayes. Coo dey! prance More got ras nuff gag-up And 1 tank top and baby blue shants. He rock top shit with Garnet kicks jus kickin it with the fly, off the rack, grimey henbwoy himminals. Cho! They watch. They clock. Dem, all daye sit and stand and sway. Hot dayes - shirts off. Muscleless strut. Says Arnold, -She's sweet, yo- Says Dave, -She's a fucken slut- Says Wiggy, -You know that Caz, dude? well...- Sunny dayes are wyel. Hollyhoodoo shabti and 1/2 men vanity. Ragga kids with the badda psychic landscape of the sissy's disjointed memories of the Fight club regained, Cha! Pissin up against ball court walls with dem back exposed. G ¡Ya! bouge de la! Pickney bwoys. Bodies more pumpt. Chicken sticks. Buffalo wings mild spicey. Bouge de la! Bouge de la! Walk badda tough. Pump yuh arms wide out and screwface the crowd. Best a show promenade of downloaded burned memories of woht was gag shit. Bouge de la -- thét's out, kid! Cha! More, he speak on the celliar like he was fed tobacco sauce as a pup. His crowd, they sat outside benches of the shoppin centre and pleaded tough for chumps. More pump it up with Løcel. Says Wiggy, -Check, that bitch, More- Says More, -oh yaeh...- ***** for the the subject was feggits ( pt3) Dig the drum stripped bare by the selectas pon the weight of the helium to the acetate... ....the soundbwais ...who hated... ...the soundbwais ...who hated ...the soundbwais ...who hated ... His aural novellas had become the road maps for the criminal elements called the system woht wicked come the abnormals in government: ....the soundbwais ...who hated... ...the soundbwais ...who hated ...the soundbwais ...who hated still sitted... ...for the world who made them a joake ...sendin msgs inna chattel ...and likkle yänkee bwais made doable -see that one? he's st8 but... - -i.c.- -he was in the detention ...- -oh yeah? And check that freak out- -oh yeah, he gave up on mixing- -well, ...not going to details...- -i.c.- -I think he's on meth- -he's always on chat- -I'm off to the park- -I was half cocked when I got there- -send me his pic- -how's his math- -16, 136, 5'7',8c- -nice- -str A's- -I like white guys only- -he's at the park all the time- -I think he's on meth- -he's st8 but...- -Oh him? Yeah I know...- -I think T.J. was his worker- -Saanich is so boring why did T.J. move there- -he's hot- -We got this new guy from Ontario- -I think he's on meth- ...shhuch zigga ...for the the subject was... ***** Ready to elude, Rude? Muscled up corners. Stitch and bitches Conflabs of bandit territorial artistic war maneuvers. A lil crowd is but a mark's grip, laggaheads. cho! ...and some they hung on Begbie st. ...still Lil Burg, he makin sandwiches for screwface bowys and making ice cream in the square. Where had the amir ...shhuch zigga Says More over the celly, ...wohwoh... ...Downtown... ...the shoppin centre... ...Hillside? lé, lé,.... Hillside too far, ya... ...Cedar hill?... ...woh....awo, awo, 20 mins, s'all la.. In this place called heaven -- being a nekgah in [c]Nada foster madness inna Dub's heart. Seal your fate in lyrics held in flexless flaps. Burn the shit for rebel radio run by dream warriors lost in a mob of mathematical philosophy. And More, when he on, the spit he spit, naw, are wrapt in wickedness. Whack the shit and drop your will to tracks layin in point phét rock your mic. Did the 80's add up to anyhthin -- 70's 1426 Lawrence Y Braithwaite (aka Lord Patch) New Palestine/Fernwood/The Hood Victoria, BC Mp3 Download here: http://www.icompositions.com/auditorium/showphoto.php?photo=15691 http://ottawa.indymedia.ca/en/2005/05/951.shtml http://bc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/1886/index.php Other Downloads: Hurricane Angel "luckily, i was half cat": http://omnipresentrecords.com/ishaq/?media_id=8 and http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Be a friend to the oppressed and an enemy to the oppressor" \ --Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib (as)\ \ "This mathematical rhythmatical mechanism enhances my wisdom\ of Islam, keeps me calm from doing you harm, when I attack, it's Vietnam"\ --HellRazah\ \ "It's not too good to stay in a white man's country too long"\ --Mutabartuka\ \ "As for we who have decided to break the back of colonialism, \ our historic mission is to sanction all revolts, all desperate \ actions, all those abortive attempts drowned in rivers of blood."\ - Frantz Fanon\ \ "Everyday is Ashura and every land is Kerbala"\ -Imam Ja'far Sadiq\ \ http://scratchcue.blogspot.com/ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html \ http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_comments/766_0_15_0_C/ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/ \ "For African people on the continent the image of Afrikans in America is that of a bunch of heavily armed Black men who only stop fighting each other long enough to put a dollar in Chocolate Thunda's thong at tha strip club."\ --min paul scott --"How MTV Underdeveloped Africa: Pistols, Pimps and Pan Africanism"\ \ M.E.D.I.A.: (MisEducation Destroying Intelligent Afrikans)\ \ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THCO2/ \ } ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 19:16:08 -0700 Reply-To: ishaq1823@telus.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: Re: for the the subject was feggits ( pt3) In-Reply-To: <42A3ACB2.3090703@telus.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit for the the subject was feggits ( pt3) is an excerpt from more at 7:30: notes from new palestine which is a novel in the mixed down stage all up in the lab in my 12 bunker in new palestine ...fernwood to few... Ishaq wrote: > > > the only pure thing is god > > ***** > > > Coo yah!!! alla big tings on lil tings make dem look like bigga > figgas. Or is it thét prison gear don't fit ri on lil a nagas. > However, the valley of the Cunanan crimeys keep wyelinout in > rawdawgitude. Boops bwoy with a muscle cut ya. > The kicks on those one. The vines on the other. > Who got woht? > Who kno who? > Dem talk too much. > Mistah Talkative Rude. > Gangstas with the gift of gab. > Assorted thug hen heterodoxy. cho! it's a good game. Hopefully > it'll make a good movement. > They had played it many times. Time to pray. > This is Victoria in mouth of America > Victoria a bitch gon the nigger rich > Racis white dudes with dreads > Neva heavy steppin to Satchmo > Submit the fus reggae creation of West End Blues > Negkahless rap lyrics > Madchild wannbes actin shadey > Moby and Majin Buu > Absorb > Def Jux fellows > Spit and dis > With a long play solo > Imported Hip hop with no sense of self, sense or tempo > Distorted casper rasta fire with no rebel pensive and the dublogical > got jackt > Smoken chronic like crack and actin loopy summon the anti-rebbi > Too deep into the mystic > Look coo soundbwoy stoosh yuh or not you jus bhuttuah > Bungo punanny pickneys lost in redeye cellular digital > This the Long Mile fuccin with the metaphysical = Sound silences + > Words kill. > ¡Ya! yo! > Mark yuh Buu > Stand firm on Shu > Absorb ... > > > >1426 Lawrence Y Braithwaite (aka Lord Patch) >New Palestine/Fernwood/The Hood >Victoria, BC > > > > >Mp3 Download here: > >http://www.icompositions.com/auditorium/showphoto.php?photo=15691 > >http://ottawa.indymedia.ca/en/2005/05/951.shtml > >http://bc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/1886/index.php > > >Other Downloads: > >Hurricane Angel "luckily, i was half cat": > >http://omnipresentrecords.com/ishaq/?media_id=8 > >and > >http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html > > >___\ >Stay Strong\ >\ > "Be a friend to the oppressed and an enemy to the oppressor" \ >--Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib (as)\ >\ >"This mathematical rhythmatical mechanism enhances my wisdom\ >of Islam, keeps me calm from doing you harm, when I attack, it's Vietnam"\ >--HellRazah\ >\ >"It's not too good to stay in a white man's country too long"\ >--Mutabartuka\ >\ >"As for we who have decided to break the back of colonialism, \ >our historic mission is to sanction all revolts, all desperate \ >actions, all those abortive attempts drowned in rivers of blood."\ > - Frantz Fanon\ >\ >"Everyday is Ashura and every land is Kerbala"\ >-Imam Ja'far Sadiq\ >\ >http://scratchcue.blogspot.com/ >\ >http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html >\ >http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_comments/766_0_15_0_C/ >\ >http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date >\ >http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/ >\ >"For African people on the continent the image of Afrikans in America is that of a bunch of heavily armed Black men who only stop fighting each other long enough to put a dollar in Chocolate Thunda's thong at tha strip club."\ >--min paul scott --"How MTV Underdeveloped Africa: Pistols, Pimps and Pan Africanism"\ >\ >M.E.D.I.A.: (MisEducation Destroying Intelligent Afrikans)\ >\ >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THCO2/ >\ >} > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 23:27:44 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Pierre Joris Subject: Nomadics blog Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Recent posts on NOMADICS blog: -- A year ago, Steve Lacy -- Reading of Pablo Picasso Poems at P.S.1 -- Happy Birthday, Clayton! -- XUL & Souffles -- Silliman's take on Millennium 2 ================================================= For updates on readings, etc. check my current events page: http://albany.edu/~joris/CurrentEvents.html ================================================= Always keep the tempo -- Steve Lacy ================================================= Pierre Joris 244 Elm Street Albany NY 12202-1310 h: 518 426 0433 c: 518 225 7123 o: 518 442 40 85 email: joris@albany.edu http://www.albany.edu/~joris/ Nomadics blog: http://pjoris.blogspot.com ================================================= ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 23:35:51 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: some recent work - explanations in other elist archives - MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed some recent work - explanations in other elist archives - http://www.asondheim.org/vlf1.jpg http://www.asondheim.org/vlf2.jpg http://www.asondheim.org/vlf3.jpg http://www.asondheim.org/flick.jpg http://www.asondheim.org/vlfmoan.jpg http://www.asondheim.org/virgax.jpg http://www.asondheim.org/mgnanoml.mp3 http://www.asondheim.org/revolvingjail.mov http://www.asondheim.org/sac1.jpg http://www.asondheim.org/sac2.jpg http://www.asondheim.org/sac3.jpg http://www.asondheim.org/sac4.jpg http://www.asondheim.org/sac5.jpg http://www.asondheim.org/sac.mp3 [anomalous event] http://www.asondheim.org/ - go to radio jpgs http://www.asondheim.org/slcmod2.mp3 http://www.asondheim.org/bloom.jpg http://www.asondheim.org/cz101a.mp3 http://www.asondheim.org/alpinefil2.mp3 http://www.asondheim.org/alpine.jpg _ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 23:37:35 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: recent texts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed well, here are the explanations in the air http://www.asondheim.org/dike11.mp3 out of it wyoming susquehanna river dike river-side chorus added thunderstorm front just off the radar = my Very Low Frequency Radio Sexy thing song wanna sing dah dee dah lyrics. (make me wanna sing) Dah dee dah, dah mom dah dee dah. (somethin like, somethin like) By ye yah dah dah, by ye yah dah mom. ... Dah dee dah, dah mom dah dee dah Sexy thing, I can do anything, cuz dee dah, dah mom dah dee dah. (By ya dah) Dah dee dah, dah mom dah dee dah. (Mmm I cant explain) ... dah-di-di-di-dit dah-dah-di-di-dit dah-dah-dah-di-dit dah-dah-dah-dah-dit ... dah-di-di-dah-dit dah-di-di-di-dah di-dah-di-dah-dit di-di-di-dah-di-dah Dah dee dah, dah mom dah dee dah. (By ya dah) Dah dee dah, dah mom dah dee dah. (Mmm I cant Sing hey lah dee dah As the world goes by You never did like weddings Hey lah dee dah Hey lah dee dah Dah dah momConstantly recovery true Dah dee dah, dah mom dah dee dah. I cant explain, why I feel this way, Dah-dah-dah, hey! Imagine a basketball dee dah, dah mom dah dee dah. (by ya dah) Dah dee dah, dah mom dah dee dah. ... dah, dah mom dah dee dah. Dah dee dah, dah mom dah dee dah-di-di-di-dit dah-dah-di-di-dit dah-dah-dah-di-dit dah-dah-dah-dah-dit ... dah-di-di-dah-dit dah-di-di-di-dah di-dah-di-dah-dit di-di-di-dah-di-dah "dit mom dit" Dit dittle dittle dit Dit dittle dittle dit Dittle dittle dit mom! Theres a the Head of the Department () for detailed dit mom dit hope to maintain the VLF audio stream 24 hours a day with other VLF radio sounds at any ... Aeronomy and Radio Science ULF/ELF/VLF Project ... VLF recordings true Earths natural electromagnetic radio Top/Arts/Music/Styles/Experimental/Ambient/Radio Natural VLF Atmospherics on VLF true Research site on Schumann Resonance Low Frequency (VLF), and TACAMO Airborne VLF communications systems. The Navy shore VLF/LF transmitter (VLF) radio receiver. VLF receivers Natural Radio VLF group is a discussion group dedicated to those who radio frequencies in the VLF radio spectrum and slightly below the VLF VLF 0.24628 1 at = evening transformation http://www.asondheim.org/dike24b.mp3 furious light radio astronomy o angelic orders your streamers descend your streams steams your stems towards earth of ravished bounty astronomical astronomy i have yet to hear such beauty elsewhere as below above not anything this has moved me to tears, an unabashed recommendation more fantastic than the visible universe, tremendous praise and of the worlds thereof i give you copy of the stars == The Apt Word To write modernism is to write in voiceless voice. To write in voiceless voice is an enunciation. The enunciated is always pronounced. This is based on the apt word. Whatever I write, there is the apt word. In terms of cleverness, the reader desires this, the apt word. The apt word makes one famous, i.e. on the road to fame. Apt may be an apt word. Writing this style is always a well-honed craft. I try to procure your agreement or perhaps disagreement. My taste is apparent on the page. I am an expert in the use of words and their exactitude. More specifically, the apt words. Every phrase, every poem, is a composition. The poet works hard at the composition, every word must fit. The fit word is the apt word, both harmonious and perfect. A poet claws its way to the apt word and beyond. There is light on the other side of the apt word. The apt word must not appear contrived. Or it must appear contrived as a collusion between reader and writer. The apt word must be secretly clever. Or it must appear clever as such a collusion. It's nature, the apt word, unnoticed but graces a reputation. The audience knows the poet by the apt word. Every poet has a different approach to the apt word. And every poet has a different approach to the rest of it. But it is all carefully crafted and that is why we care about poets. And it is beautifully written and full of surprises. And that is why we care about poetry. I am serious about this, this apt word. It is a well-turned phrase that contributes to the whole. In a sense it is the whole. Love language, love the apt, advertising and poetry pick and choose. Here I am writing, searching for the perfect form. Oh there must be more to this than that, there is not. My words are perhaps not apt enough. My turns of phrase... = Subject: what i've been doing vlf > granularity < vlf no downtime http://www.asondheim.org/flicked.mp3 http://www.asondheim.org/f.mp3 http://www.asondheim.org/vlf1.jpg http://www.asondheim.org/vlf2.jpg http://www.asondheim.org/vlf3.jpg http://www.asondheim.org/directory.txt Spreading the Crack Zeno's the paradox continuum. - The stasis 'knot' and of the the continuum. continuum The re: 'knot' Zeno's of paradox continuum stasis re: and Gk. Similar phil. to Similar U->R->U' to etc. U->R->U' only etc. regulated, only i.e. regulated, non-probabilistic, i.e. Gk. non-probabilistic, phil. not Just even descent chaotic. re: Just converging descent series? converging 'crackles' series? - VLF not 'crackles' even read at vertically, a 0-1-0, value where of 1 x at only. a The specific read value vertically, x 0-1-0, only. where leverage instantaneity. this function? instantaneity. Delta Dirac function? function? Do Delta I Do leverage I of know this anything - all? and Cultural the Japan circa West anything circa at 1854-68. all? Pointillism. Cultural It's or blur Sizzle or and muck. bursts, Sizzle collapses bursts, Thom's collapses It's vis-a-vis a Thom's blur catastrophe hard. theory. A Something transistor falls hits hard. 25g A at transistor a hits foot. 25g catastrophe foot falls. === of the flicker.mp3, now the flick.jpg http://www.asondheim.org/flick.jpg spectral grit. http://www.asondheim.org/vlfmoan.jpg in the near future you will hear new sounds they are coming from the ghosts hovering near the old covered bridge cows on the hill turned their backs on us early the electricity failed in large parts of the region there were violent thunderstorms and near the house, a crackle the crackle continued at regular intervals interspersed were the moans, they were murmuring to us few of them as something jostled for our attention moan, crackle, moan, crackle, crackle, sometimes a sheet of sound haunted they were, these hills haunted the bridge, haunted the dismal brook haunted the bullfrogs speaking and hearing the moans hearing the moans by the side of the pond we were radio radio radio by the side of the pond we were hearing the moans, we were listening the radio, we were listening, the aerial and the recording we were radio radio radio and the recording of it, the sounds, sooner or later on this site of the haunting, something moving through the bridge something there and moving, we were sure of it = Hand-written insert into A Pocket Dictionary (Chinese-English) and Pekingese Syllabary by Chauncey Goodrich, Shanghai: Kwang Hsuel Publishing House: 1933, representing the 214 radicals in a prose composition: One down points to the left bent barb, two above men. Man enters eight limits to cover the icy bench over the box of knives strong. He wraps a ladle in a box and conceals it with ten diviners with joints under the cliff with selfish right. At the third mouth of the enclosure the earth scholar follows moving slowly till evening a big woman son. Under the roof she inches along like a small lame corpse to get sprouts from the mountain streams by work for her self. He gets thirty caps and shields for his immaturity needs covering then move on till she gives him a bow, dart, a boar's head, a plumage. Steps away for her heart like a spear from a window a hand with branch strikes like an elegant bushel of axes. Squares without sun she speaks under the moon of the wood still owing and asks him to stop killing viciously. So he denies and compares his hair, name, breath, fire, and the claws his father crosse. At from his coach he slices like the tooth of an ox or a dog and the black jade melons on the tile so sweet. We produce use things from the field with a cloth roll to keep off disease as back to back with white skin we dish them before our eyes. Lamas and darts on the stone reveal footprints grain the cave as set up with bamboo rice. Silk threads of pottery are in a net of goat's feathers of one who is old and yet able to plow with ears like pencils. In his flesh the statesman from his arrival at the mortar with his tongue opposed the boat of defiant color. In grasses a tiger and insects draw blood to do up the clothes from the West with the sights of horned words. In the bitter time of walking from the city with a winejar, each separate mile near gold pieces (from the long) doors. When the mound is reached, short tailed birds are in the rain on the green with wrong faces of rawhide, leather, and leeks. At the sound of book leaves in the wind they fly to eat the heads of the fragrant horses with bones on high. My hair strives with the herbs and I offer to the vase of spirits, fish, birds from the saltland, dear and wheat. Hemp strings and yellow millets, black embroidery, toads, tripods, drums, and rats, noses. 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their bodies to catch up old men are our past the young are our future grandmothers = carriers of wisdom cart them off cart them all off they burn fast in the furnaces the eskimo left them on the ice the jews buried them alive the christians yoked them buddhists trample their necks confucians spit on their altars the muslims cut off their heads believe what you want someone cut off their heads someone trampled them old people have nothing to say their ideas are like deSotos that's a car we all used to drive take their cars and belongings divide them up take them apart memories are made for crashing look at the old man push him down the hill he can't think when he's falling he can't think when he's standing when he's standing he's falling he's always falling when he's standing i wake up and hope you'll kill me i'm useless and can't think a thought or this is the thought i think when i'm permitted to think when you've maybe read this far i'll leave this line alone council bluffs iowa 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regards to the death of James Abbot, March 12, 1963. Yes, sure about that, yes indeed, no, i wasn't there, it might have been, i don't remember, all right, i did it, no, never again, not at all, yes i bludgeoned the guy, no, no, heh, absolutely not, not a word of it, unbelievable, could be, couldn't be, at one in the afternoon, i ate out that night, i was alone, no one saw me, i chopped his head off with a meat ax, i didn't do anything, how could you possibly believe that, this trial is fixed, i ate his brains out, no, i'm completely innocent, i'm clean as a new-born baby, pure as that virgin i fucked before i blew her head off, i wouldn't hurt a fly, i never knew James Abbot, i never saw James Abbot, why would i hurt him, i cut his heart out, the children are buried in a big pit, yes they are, i've ever committed a crime, i haven't hurt anyone, i couldn't harm a human being, no, no, yes, yes, yes, i'm sorry, i'll just answer the questions, i have a happy life, why would i do anything to destroy it, yes, i was lunchtime, i was with some friends, i don't remember who exactly, most of them are dead now, i went to bed early, i watched some tv, no, i don't remember the shows, yes, yes, no, yes yes On March 14, 1963, i was acquitted of the murder of James Abbot. _ | an absolute burst or vertical signal in the for of + within an otherwise quiescent mode. 0/1 or Kronecker delta? onset and damping 0; at x = y of infinite +/-? this doesn't matter; give it the prominence of a spike. what happens to energy at a well-defined frequency? close in and quantum effects appear. the spike is a trigger. what is the response time? the speed, not the half-life, of particle decay? dear mathematical physicist, you see I do not know what I am talking about. I am only certain that this spike plays a role in the phenomenology of the analogic and digital. analogic as adjectival; digital the same, as discrete, binary. or such of the discrete that has a modus operandi as binary. consider the factory or configuration of the digital, its appearance as governing artifacture at a particular moment in civilization - when it is realized that the analogic may be _scanned._ but the digital is not always constructed, as the collapse of the wave equation implies. or rather it is always constructed - always an _action_ - but not necessarily an artifacture or technological production - which have teleology in mind. what are the nature/s of the spikes in very low frequency radio for example? is the (natural) digital always the result of a _collapse_? these (naive) questions are on the tip of the tongue, so to speak - an array. and dear mathematical physicist, i hope you will be able to listen to the musings of an unaffiliated artist / theorist, who is trying to get it right, but may not always succeed. analogic smear postulate the analogical from the position of the operations of the analogical. i talked about, apologizing all the while for exhaustion, the relation of the analogical to deep identity, identity all the way damental ontologies and their relationship to the analogical and identity real, the truth is messy, noisy, analogic, irreducible, fuzzy. as listerv. this analogical labelling is superficial consider the analog is atemporal and time is analogical substructure integral the body analogical body is digital substructure substructure digital is body analogical body the integral substructure to analogical print differential biological material raster is the analog is atemporal and time is analogical time. this continuous world appears analogic. any element of the analogic real is interconnected and inseparable. the inherent. the application of truth values is digital. the analogic is a membrane. the analogic is dirty, inseparable, unbreakable. the dirty analogic problematizes its symbolic. the clean digital is the digital object is analogic. the analogic representation is digital. ghosts are embedded within the analogic. ghosts are excluded from the the analogic. to erase a distinction is to corrode it, to sublimate it to the analogic analogic. the creation of a signifier re-inscribes the signified image of the image is analogic. within the analogic real there is always room for error. "one can reverse this, in a sense, considering the application of analogic analogic, it might be a fairly useless exercise. as stimulate a vigorous debate on the relationship of digital and analogic the other. to stay with the filter is to remain analogic, deeply human, (dis)interested observer but from that a music producer. the analogic is note towards a foundational phenomenology of analogic/discrete 'domains.' ving the analogic and discrete (digital), we will get nowhere. where the digital exists under the aegis of fabrication, and the analogic tends towards sharpening and the analogic the physical world collapses ( and it's in codework that the mix of analogic and discrete 'ordering,' gestalt is both surplus and reduction. the inhabiting of text is analogic, assurance of purity. beyond that, there is nothing but plasma analogic, one integrates the digital to arrive at the analogic, but to begin with the analogic? to differentiate it? this might map, but then there is still perhaps i bring in libido (dionysian, analogic) and superego (apollonian, she smears to decomposing doll, the heart rate monitor freezes and she is sounds ! one who is clad in the hide of an elephant ! one who is besmeared where clara might go, smeared with shit, piss, and cum, mixing with the lag killed it. i can't think anymore. time zero is time smeared. oh, oh! "remaining nude, clad in torn dress, covered with oil, besmeared secrets, runnels overhanging the reach of chin, neck, smeared sweat, eme - or smearing, diapers, ink - shit everywhere - pissed books (drag pushes the rim of the asshole out - paste smeared upon the supine body of smear blending into the subtle plateau shadowed by fluttered bodies, and for whom inscription has transformed into smears. defuge smeared against the central desert's nilometer measuring taste, sweat, covered with grease and parts smeared everywhere. what remain of her her wipe wipe, she cleared a space, smeared apace, on the crt. "now it will be ples, want them smeared. they become writing-tools drag my body, parallel lines of shit, blood, smeared across the screen. this is the scrawl me, smeared across my balls as well. when i threw the bottle the res- bodies, and for whom inscription has transformed into smears. defuge smeared across the chest and face, immortalized in photographic image around broken space, smeared in orbital clouds running with a fury, smear let smear be our primary descriptor! dank:smelly:hot:wet:smear:gooey:8068:2:sticky:smear:hot flood:flow:spew:smear:gooey:yuus:8650:7:ooze:gooey:smear evening cuseeme. time smeared, jetlag without the physiology or condition- nipple::breast::round::togue::tongue::smear:::yes:12219:2:::smear as dirt lends itself to the analog, the body, smeared and stained, escapes i despise your glances smeared across your faces jennifer whispered.> href="slip them in.htm"/a< >a href="legs.htm" get my period soon. i can tell because i keep finding a whitish smear in seconds count series smears jennifer-text across screen series expands ic may be "smeared" across a number of pages, programs, or other aspects counted-for. it is unaccountable because it is smeared across sites (pa- parts smeared across the screen, terminal-decay, terminal-desire. alone, cells smear disrupted contents against it. blood gushes to the surface, it would have to be under glass, my name smeared and rendered inde- only then did you fall apart. then and only then were you smeared, defiled despise your glances smeared across your faces hatred of useless we covered with grease and parts smeared everywhere. what remain of her her contaminated by paper smears, ball-pointed inks coating tunnels to certificates smeared with flesh rubles and your cum so trade them in. this world smears meaning all over the place. everywhere we look we drib- were, we'd still be smearing meaning all over the places, as i said. then any two elements of a spectrum smear, gesturally, across the rest. so that ing smeared shitsuppurating asshole would soaking smeared shit mind you uneasy weighted penis shit vomitswallowed vomitmorselsmeared face your lively smeared hair is in my spry smeared eyes your your penis seeps into my smeared eyes - turning me julu-jennifer smeared - almost obliterated, choked on filth, disheveled the mind, pierce the ears, send the stump away, smear it areas and objects blurred, edges smeared, involuted polished bronze, smeared and non-existent recognitions. i come down the aisle, smear embrace on the perfect floor, flood into eg ..and place it on ure mouth ..and smear the screedn ..and look at ure eg ..and place it on ure mouth ..and smear the screedn ..and look at ure words t shit on me, smear me, we will lie across ourselves... you will drip from s ...till we no longer x sist in body ..till we r in another space ..smeared wit tears smear dirt on our invisible faces where proper names are killed! 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line tourmaline, constant tears smear dirt on our invisible faces where leave us alone, azure and i naked, smeared with each other and with black crystalline tourmaline, constant tears smear dirt on our invisible faces tears smear dirt on our invisible faces where proper names are killed! hand never moved or remained still. infinitesimal hands smeared the hiding myself,, devourx if, smeared zi t.h cum,. texture of ague, words image? t me smears the image (which is completed by perception wu print "consider the next smearing of your thinking skin.\n" into existence and your own my skin is smeared, still thinking my _ forgotten mode of hacking http://www.asondheim.org/ - go to radio jpgs - from a 1922-1924 book on radio, the illustrations indicate that 'hacking' existed at least as early as 1920-21 - in relation to radio. the structures are similar - 'generation gap,' ad-hoc innovation, networking (there is a picture of an eleven-year-old teaching others; there are also prizes for the most innovative radio etc.), probing the radio spectrum as a form of exploration (and the spectrum as 'place'), free distribution of knowledge, etc. this is one of several books I've seen describing the 'boys' (and to some extent girls - Dorothea and Alice Hanna construct their own radio as well). given this, I wonder what other early technological communications 'hacking' existed - were 'boys' working with telegraphy for example? and for that matter, when did car mods begin? perfection http://www.asondheim.org/slcmod2.mp3 salt lake city near wasatch mountains power grids everywhere lissajous patterns in the spectrograph what the hell still. there was a bulldozer coming down on me it was a kind of challenge towards perfection yes i made it! thank you electronics i say this without irony site was near copperton for those who know the bingham crater it's changed here just like the landscape i did what i could to make it pretty the waif in the garden who had so much wrong and yet she still wanted me http://www.asondheim.org/bloom.jpg because i am an american and she owns my monies which i have paid out to everyone but her and you can tell her clothes are very sorry but she will be very wealthy i will service her breasts on a sunny day on a cloudy day too Words Gathered, a Secret Ordering, Productive Together, Creating a Poem. Bar, bolt, gate. Large, fat, horse. Straitened circumstances, persecute. Unlined garment, cloak, mantle. Far apart, unlike. Desert wilds, remote from town, a border prairie. Hot, bright, clear, severe, (like fire). Small window, lattice. High, and vast. Reddish root, medicine. Poor, exhaust, thoroughly, the end. The man is poor, but not his will - Trouble, a mound. Bamboo, cricket, a locust. A bulbous plant, alone, desolate. Lustrous, brilliant. Alone, heartsick. Gazing at in fright, alone, helpless. _ the bounds where to a a function limit. converges what to is limit. the what limit. is where beyond a the function construction of works construction as of edge works phenomena as fields symptoms, fields intermixtures of result the given result in given relation in apperception to koan, koan, satori, satori, etc. etc. - - tools, vlf radio video microscopy poser and other motion-capture poser work and extensions narratives 'home-spun' equipment analog/digital investigations: physics, mathematics police-scanner psychotopography GPS GPS Whirlwind Whirlwind 'hotspot 'hotspot events'? events'? gaming vignettes modified whistlers heap.mov ennui.mov blender talk about - geography talk consciousness geography universe universe 'plasma' 'plasma' sexualities heuristics languages bodies pathos, empathy, sympathy, defuge anomalous signals welded anomalous together vlf antenna antenna receptors? receptors? loops, loops, fences, fences, L, L, T, T, feedback vlf dual - receivers dual rule-governed in systems relation (going to back older older systems immersive/definable immersive/definable work). work). _meaning_ _meaning_ particular particular explanation? is explanation itself itself a form of discrete? explanation? system relation carrying-out the temporality inherent Irigaray, fluid mechanics Irigaray, Hertz's mechanics mechanics. - the_limit_ the discrete itself mathematization/formalism as on page page is background the call or it phenomenological 'horizon' - or the phenomenological limit horizon background immersive - activity. is activity is vectored, i.e. i.e. past-future, past-future, however however entangled. entangled. an an immersive issue i.e. genidentity constants, that for constants, constants _passes_ issue constants genidentity those (which formal may written include elements time (which as may a include variable). time i.e. variable). written second the apparatus perceptual bandwidth limit perceptual that (of how course to not translate equivalent). the how former translate the former (of into course latter lowering - pitch, i.e. sexual/linguistic - limits how body collapsed/expanded collapsed/expanded Leder (see sexual/linguistic Leder limits example) body's body's for _Jordan example, surface_ i.e. example, for topology - rendered _diffused_ rendered exhortations - plasma. the _discomforted_ boundaries limit notes notes limit where limit. a where function a converges function to converges limit. a what limit. is what beyond is the beyond construction phenomena of construction works of as works edge as phenomena edge fields fields symptoms, of intermixtures symptoms, result the given result in given relation in apperception to koan, - satori, koan, etc. satori, - edge tools, radio vlf tools, radio vlf video microscopy microscopy video poser work and poser other and motion-capture other work motion-capture extensions narratives narratives of 'home-spun' equipment equipment 'home-spun' analog/digital mathematics investigations: analog/digital physics, investigations: mathematics physics, police-scanner psychotopography psychotopography police-scanner GPS events'? 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Wilfred Owens Stephen Crane - in the higher elevations of the Wasatch Mountains near Salt Lake City - modified recording, you need earphone and stereo for this one - you can hear the wind whistling around the antenna - setting up current in the antenna - recorded by the vlf along with the usual signals - there are the unusual usual moans as well - sometimes i think these are stemming from the antenna - but then i think not, they have no relation to the wind or weather - your guess is as good as mine, probably better - chorus adds separation, you need good separation - machine turning on and off, i think, as rampant development continues - we were near some ski resorts, not sky resorts - listen, be informed - http://www.asondheim.org/alpinefil2.mp3 http://www.asondheim.org/alpine.jpg _ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 01:57:28 -0400 Reply-To: h.c@earthlink.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Holly Crawford Subject: Re: Participation-Performance of Found Puncutation at BBC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I will be performing and instructing the audience using my new video. Concrete poetry comes alive! This Friday, June 10 6-6:30, at the Bowery Poetry Club, New York. There is no cover for this performance. Emily Dickinson, Coleridge, Duchamp and Holly Crawford shall not be held responsible for anything the participants decide to do. I have not done a performance of this material since 2002 at Beyond Baroque. Holly Crawford h.c@earthlink.net www.art-poetry.info/ www.artcircles.org (AC:Collaborative) > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 03:58:28 -0700 Reply-To: rsillima@yahoo.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ron Silliman Subject: Silliman's Blog MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/ RECENT POSTS How to read Clark Coolidge Peter O’Leary on Ronald Johnson’s Radi Os & the Outworks A Zukofsky Selected: the shorter poems A Zukofsky Selected: Representing “A” William Shakespeare, post avant Which major romantic poet would you be (if you were a major romantic poet)? Some notes on community & other responses to Jonathan Mayhew’s questions Ten questions about poetry from Jonathan Mayhew Collected editions vs. keeping everything in print – not an either/or question Ronald Johnson’s Radi Os tune in again Hat & Carve – 2 new magazines with different strategies of editing Gregory Corso & the School of Quietude Matt Hart responds “It’s Greek to me” http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 08:15:17 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Charlotte Mandel Subject: SALT metrical issue on Verse MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Edited by Annie Finch, the metrical issue of SALT is now posted at Verse Magazine online - poems by several list members - including two of mine, I'm happy to report. It's been a patient wait, but good company. The url is: http://versemag.blogspot.com Many thanks, Annie. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Six of 24 artist interfaces: >>>URL: http://www.secrettechnology.com/resident/cath.htm <<< New House Images/Textual excursions by Catherine Daly. Moving deer in the dusk by Jason Nelson. Where was I?: While running an extra help session for my Digital Production course, I propped my laptop on a spare chair in the computer lab and created in those spar moments between answering questions about tech whatnots. My students, I fear, have eyes bigger than their mouths. They so dearly want the technology to magically satisfy their whims, their creative possibilities. Much like the Catherine's house in these pcitures, or within her poetic text, we must work within certain frameworks. And uneasy colloboration between the masonry and our ability to crush stone and align foundations. Residency description: Exploring interface and interactive creatures with content grabbed, thrust, stolen, and borrowed from new media artists, poets and electronic pioneers. Over these 2-3 weeks, I will create twenty-four digital extravaganzas, with each one being loosely or closely centered on the content, ideas, images and words of others. Think of this as ego stroking and translation, a way to connect to those I have never met and might not ever meet, and play with ideas of interaction and interface. Some have offered their content, others will simply be robbed, and all will be enchanted, confused, annoyed and giddily stroked. Bio: "As a NET ARTIST, I am apparently diying or dead. With that in mind, I bask in my zombie glow, my rotting wires and my urge to bite through skulls. I could list those academic and worldly accolades that have trophied themselves on my work, but I am only as good as the last swirling mess I spit out. I live in Australia with a beautiful woman and miss the snow, so miss the snow." My worlds: http://www.heliozoa.com http://www.secrettechnology.com _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 09:56:17 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: Re: Furniture Out of Commission Until August Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 thank you steve, and yuko, it was a rough week but the house at least doesn= 't stink anymore, as much. we're planning our packing schedule and leaving = the house on june 23 into our new apartment up the street ( can't wait to g= et out of baltimore...) how are you doing? everything well as the heat index increases? any word fr= om jeff? i haven't got a reply from him in a while. chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Dalachinksy" To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: Furniture Out of Commission Until August Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 18:35:01 -0400 >=20 > shit chris really sorry to hear this yuko and i wish you all the > best steve www.towson.edu/~cacasama/furniture/poae baltimorereads.blogspot.com zillionpoems.blogspot.com --=20 _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for just= US$9.95 per year! Powered by Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:12:08 -0400 Reply-To: Mike Kelleher Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mike Kelleher Organization: Just Buffalo Literary Center Subject: JUST BUFFALO E-NEWSLETTER 06-06-05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OPEN READINGS Martha Deed Wednesday, June 8, 7 p.m. Just Buffalo Literary Center The Hibiscus Room, 2495 Main St., Buffalo, NY 10 slots for open readers. Sign-ups at 6:30 p.m. HARLEM BOOK FAIR BUFFALO The Harlem Book Fair (HBF), will debut in Buffalo July 8-9, 2005 as part of Buffalo's Niagara Movement Centennial Celebration. The two-day event will open with a Friday evening Harlem Renaissance-Themed Gala. The book fair is scheduled for Saturday from 10:00 am - 6:30 pm in downtown Buffalo. The Book Fair is Free and open to all. There will be exhibit booths, panel discussions, book selling, storytelling, readings, a children forum, spoken word poets, music and opportunities to meet and greet celebrity authors, including Buffalo's own Ishmael Reed, Ruben Santiago Hudson, Walter Dean Myers, Virginia Deberry, and Dr. Ian Smith. For more information and applications log on to http://www.hbfb.org or call 716 - 881 - 6066. Harlem Book Fair Buffalo Committee: Just Buffalo Literary Center, Black Capital Network, Buffalo Convention and Visitors Bureau, Buffalo & Erie County Public Library, Melonya Johnson, Harlem Book Fair /QBR Book Review. HARLEM BOOKFAIR WORKSHOP LIVING YOUR WRITING DREAMS: AN INSIDER'S TAKE ON BECOMING A WRITER, with Alan Steinberg Friday July 8th 1-4:30 pm Location: Market Arcade, 617 Main Street, 3rd Floor Conference Room Cost: $95 / $80 Just Buffalo Members Featuring best-selling author/journalist/screenwriter ALAN STEINBERG, whose work has been featured in print (New York Times, USA TODAY, Washington Post, People, Inside Sports); on TV (Donahue, Larry King, Dateline, Inside Edition, Leno, Letterman); and radio nationwide. IF ALL OF BUFFALO READ THE SAME BOOK This year's title, The Invention of Solitude, by Paul Auster, is available at area bookstores. All books purchased at Talking Leaves Books will benefit Just Buffalo. Paul Auster will visit Buffalo October 5-6. A reader's discussion guide is available on the Just Buffalo website. Presented in conjunction with Hodgson Russ LLP, WBFO 88.7 FM and Talking Leaves Books. For sponsorship opportunities (and there are many), please contact Laurie Torrell or Mike Kelleher at 832-5400. UNSUBSCRIBE If you would like to unsubscribe from this list, just say so and you will be immediately removed. _______________________________ Mike Kelleher Artistic Director Just Buffalo Literary Center 2495 Main St., Ste. 512 Buffalo, NY 14214 716.832.5400 716.832.5710 (fax) www.justbuffalo.org mjk@justbuffalo.org ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:01:32 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "David A. Kirschenbaum" Subject: **Boog NYC Series Needs Yr Non-NY Press ASAP** Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit (thought i'd resend as this may have been lost in everyone's monday morning email slam) -------- Hi all, Season two of our "d.a. levy lives: celebrating the renegade press" series concludes next month, and the Thurs. July 7 date has recently opened up. If you edit a non-NY based small press, or know of a press you think might be interested, please backchannel me asap as the time is growing near. The series is held at Chelsea's ACA Galleries, which is owned by the son-in-law and daughter of the poet Simon Perchik. The first thursday of each month i have a different visiting press host and feature their authors and, if they're able, musician(s) they know, or i find some musicians I know. The gallery provides wine and other beverages, and cheese and fruit. We started the series in august 2004. in our first two seasons we've hosted (or are due to host the final press listed) Meritage Press (San Francisco/St. Helena, Calif.), The Owl Press (Woodacre, Calif.), Tougher Disguises (Oakland, Calif.), Cy Press (Cincinnati, Ohio), above/ground press (Ottawa, Canada), a 20th anniversary party for Chax Press (Tucson, Arizona), The Tangent (Walla Walla, WA), Carve magazine (Ithaca, NY), and Braincase Press (Northampton, Mass.), Combo (Providence, R.I.), Talonbooks (Vancouver, Canada), Tripwire (San Francisco), Conundrum (Chicago), Ambit (Baltimore), a 30th anniversary party for Kelsey Street Press (Berkeley, Calif.), The Poker (Cambridge, Mass.), Ahadada Books (Burlington, Canada), Firewheel Editions/Sentence, a magazine (Danbury, Conn.), Habernicht Press (San Francisco), The Canary (Kemah, Texas), Duration Press (San Rafael, Calif.), and a+bend press (Davis, Calif.). best, david -- David A. Kirschenbaum, editor and publisher Boog City 330 W.28th St., Suite 6H NY, NY 10001-4754 For event and publication information: http://boogcity.blog-city.com/ T: (212) 842-BOOG (2664) F: (212) 842-2429 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:44:56 -0500 Reply-To: Lori Emerson Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Lori Emerson Subject: Fwd: Weeks by Hannah Weiner In-Reply-To: <3bf622560506061226c04c991@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: jUStin!katKO Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:26:01 -0400 Subject: Weeks by Hannah Weiner To: lori.emerson@gmail.com Cc: dtv@mwt.net Xexoxial Editions is proud to announce that the late Hannah Weiner's WEEKS (1989) is now back in stock. Introduction by Charles Bernstein, photographs by Barbara Rosenthal. 75 page handmade edition, 8.5x7, $8.50 http://xexoxial.org/xexoxial/listings/WEEKS.html send orders to: Xexoxial Editions 10375 Cty Hway A La Farge, WI 54639 - Weiner on the origin of Weeks: "My friend, the writer Barbara Rosenthal, gave me a page-a-day diary last Christmas to encourage me to write. Not seeing words anymore, I looked for another source. I found it in the TV news, which accounts for the bulk of the material. I typed it up week by week, which accounts for the title." from "Weak Links," Bernstein's introduction: "Weeks, in its extremity, represents the institutionalization of collage into a form of evenly hovering emptiness that actively resists analysis or puncturing. In Weeks, the virus of news is shown up as a pattern of reiteration and displacement, tale without teller . . . Weiner's Weeks is a shocking cul de sac to a tradition of the found in American poetry -- a tradition that includes, by any brief accounting, Charles Reznikoff's Testimony, Sterling Brown's ethnographic encounters with the black oral tradition, William Burroughs' cut-ups, Jack Spicer's 'received' poems, Jackson MacLow's processing of source material, or Ronald Johnson's erasure of Milton in radi os" more Weiner links: http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/weiner/ http://www.writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Weiner.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:29:29 +0200 Reply-To: Anny Ballardini Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Anny Ballardini Subject: the Poets' Corner In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline UGhpbG9zb3BoeSwgYXMgd2UgdXNlIHRoZSB3b3JkLCBpcyBhIGZpZ2h0IGFnYWluc3QgdGhlIGZh 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6 Jun 2005 16:41:22 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Simon DeDeo Subject: rhubarb is susan updates MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello all, Two new updates to Rhuarb is Susan poetry microreviews this week: both from the final "metrical" issue of the excellent Salt magazine, which is bring released, part by part, on the Verse Magazine blogsite. Up for review are two poems, one by Rosmarie Waldrop, and the other by Arielle Greenberg. http://rhubarbissusan.blogspot.com/ http://rhubarbissusan.blogspot.com/2005/06/rosmarie-waldrop-spontaneous-discharge.html http://rhubarbissusan.blogspot.com/2005/06/arielle-greenberg-meter-of-night-sky.html Thanks for tuning in! As always, comments and flames solicited. -- Simon, editor-by-default -- Feynman i ptitza -- bol'shie druz'ia ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:42:04 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Sleeping with Sappho / bloging a fresh bunch! Comments: cc: "Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and poetics"@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU, POETRYETC@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit As we roll into summer, I have posted up a whole new batch of pieces from/for Sleeping With Sappho: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com As I begin to pull this effort into book shape, always appreciate comments. Enjoy, Stephen V ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:53:56 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kristin Dykstra Subject: Mandorla: New Writing from the Americas now available online MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit We are pleased to announce that subscriptions to the crosscultural magazine /Mandorla: New Writing from the Americas / Nueva escritura de las Américas/ are now available online for readers from the US and abroad. http://www.litline.org/Mandorla/default.html Our current issue features work by Eleni Sikelianos, Jay Wright, Vera Kutzinski, Roberto González Echevarría, Carlos Aguilera, Todd Ramón Ochoa, Paul Vanouse, Julio Trujillo, Jacqueline Loss, José Kozer, Mark Weiss, Tamara Kamenszain, Gabriel Gudding, Paul Hoover, Javier Marimón, Rosa Alcalá, Elizabeth Hatmaker, Reynaldo Jiménez, Nathaniel Mackey, José Lezama Lima, Alfonso D'Aquino, Omar Pérez, Jaime Saenz, Forrest Gander, Thad Ziolkowski, Roberto Tejada, Magali Tercero, Reina María Rodríguez, Nancy Gates Madsen, Gabriel Bernal Granados, Peter O'Leary, Ana Rosa González Matute, Antonio José Ponte, Mark Schafer, Curtis White, Soleida Ríos, Jorge Guitart, Kass Fleisher, Caroline Koebel, Joel Bettridge, Susan Briante, Arnaldo Valero, Henrry Lezama, Nick Lawrence, Pedro Marqués de Armas, Rito Aroche, & Caridad Atencio. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:10:39 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinksy Subject: Fw: A Pe m itten in Dalachinsky's Had wit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ramble rough amble curse Leg (tongue-tied) A bid in own & Cunt own Hyp o c on i a Vouch at on no Vacation Sic of In stead Sic: enDing order online Be ah gamble Da folds ina lilly an rope Tip-Toe tough To led o Liber ate Tongue form owls of Lifts Circus cut us recently Scumified Sin apes Coiled apes in Styrofoam Caps (rowboats) Tan quilted El inphantized Cheeks and schmeckers cum ciddy fum crops I spoke gun ate Faust Past Sing(e) ground he holler a slAve Male's aria Arrg amen on A choo choo stAmen & soon -- _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for just US$9.95 per year! Powered by Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:51:09 -0700 Reply-To: Ken Chen Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ken Chen Subject: Re: POETICS Digest - 1 Jun 2005 to 2 Jun 2005 (#2005-152) In-Reply-To: <429fdb43.4067fff9.6dab.fffffb01SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I'm wondering if anyone can help me with some critical texts on the content/form division? I'm assuming that we get it from the mind/body division and Aristotle's lexis/logos dichotomy, but I'm interested in reading critiques, defenses and histories of it. Please backchannel to kensanwaychen[at]gmail.com Thanks, Ken Chen ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:50:08 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinksy Subject: Fw: Fw: Poetry Readings, June 12th, 15, 18, 21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tsaurah Litsky and Yuko Otomo read from their new works Sunday, June 12th, 7pm-9pm @ FUZION on A, Avenue A and 13th Street free Opening Reception Art at the Vision Festival @Orensanz Foundation (172 Norfolk St. off Houston St.) June 15, Wednesday, 5-7 pm "I have a drawing & a wall installation...." -Yuko followed by: steve dalachinsky & MATTHEW SHIPP read & play @ the Vision FESTIVAL @ Orensanz Foundation 172 Norfolk St Wednesday June 15 7 PM plus an entire night of great music to follow June 18th at 1 pm as part of the Vision Festival @ Orensanz 4 young poets read their work they are: Brian Boyles, James Hoff, Cat Tyc & Chavisa Woods followed by 5 great young bands of musicians June 21st - 8 PM Hooker 99 w/ special guest steve dalachinsky @ BOWERY POETRY CLUB ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:57:29 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Haas Bianchi Subject: Weinberger-Timm-Foust Profiles on Chicagopostmodernpoetry.com In-Reply-To: <410-2200561655728250@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The June Chicagopostmodernpoetry.com is live\\Happy Summer Profiles: Timm, Weinberger and Foust Great Readings at Myopic, Discrete and Danny's Raymond L Bianchi chicagopostmodernpoetry.com/ collagepoetchicago.blogspot.com/ > > > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:38:20 -0700 Reply-To: ishaq1823@telus.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: Racist Tactricks of Victoria Indy Media?-- telus confirms subscribers denied access to bc and vic indy media by VICTORIA AND BC INDY MEDIA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ken (tech #830816) of telus has informed me today that it is a possibility that bc and victoria indy media have decided to ban all telus ip adresses from their site which this behavior would fall under further dirty tricks by certain victoria and indy media admins who wish to limit access to this public site and limit the flow of information. the lack or response or concern by bc and vic indy media admins concerning this issue might make clear that perhaps it has been an attempt to target an individual or people, such as those who post articles or have sympathies concerning muslim, black, native and pro palestinian issues and those the object and expose local police brutality -- using dirty tricks. as of 9:49pm steve rabouin of telus has confirmed that it is in fact that it is bc and victoria indymedia who are banning telus IPs from their site. dirty tricks if full effect > so i made an attempt to contact telus so they could explain the > situation with the indymedia sites. i was put in touch with someone who > said his name was ekemini (827170). he said that the > http://bc.indymedia.org and http://victoria.indymedia.org sites do not > exist. however, a friend who has shaw could access the site which i > informed them of. this is when ekemini (827170) askes me to try this > site http://cnn.com and askes me to read him the headline which was > Suspected Al-Zarqawi deputy arrested in Iraq i asked him why? what the > relevance was to this situation and he simply asked me to read it. > instead i read him the other smaller headline: U.S.: Guards, detainees > mishandled Quran > > after a longtime on hold the tech cameback and said that they would run > a test around my area and location which turned out that that telus > couldn't access the sites http://bc.indymedia.org nor the > http://victoria.indymedia.org . from here i was informed that the > problem and information and the results from my trace rout and ping test > which i had to forward to them would be sent to "apps dept" -- they are > the domain hosting service for telus. > > they would get back to me in 48hrs. > > > strange times > > > > > > for your info (below is a note by one telus tech (peter tech #82359)) > > as visitor and contributor to the vic and bc indy media sites which > has the most inforamtion on black politics, islam and muslim issues, > as well as local police brutality, i wish to inform you that telus > internet subscribers have been blocked from viewing your site for the > past week and the problem still persists and is unresolved by telus. > > on june 2 i spoke with tech named ben who said that issue was with > telus and it was being resolved within 24hrs. he also said that when > he went to access the site it simply sent him to > http://victoria.indymedia.org.com. however, when he spoke with a tech > who did not use telus the site was reached. > i attempted to access the address 24hrs later and the attempt failed. > > on june 3 i spoke with peter who simply sent me this note after 1 > hour of running around and being placed on hold countless times by > him. peter (peter tech #82359) refused to do a trace route from telus > and insisted that i preform the trace route which i did and the result > was the the sites did not exist. > > on june 4 i spoke with jahan who refuse again to perform a trace > route, placed me on hold and then refused to explain, said that it was > "irellivant", as to why > telus members cannot reach the site and others can who are employed > with telus but do not use telus as a server. each time i asked he > accuse me of not "cooperting" and threaten to terminate unless i stop > asking question and just do another trace route. any questions is > asked we dodged. > > when as a telus subscriber, i, and apparently others, attempt to view > the sites the connection times out or redirects the telus client to > http://victoria.indymedia.org.com. we as telus subscribers are being > denied access to the bc and victoria indie media sites. > > > sincerely > > ishaq > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: bc.indymedia.org > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 21:33:09 -0400 > From: Telus Technical Support > To: slash07@telus.net > > > >tried to find this website but it does not exist. > >bc.indymedia.org or victoria.indymedia.org > >Please double check the address or try www.indymedia.org > > >Peter > > > > > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:00:29 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Dan Waber Subject: altered books update MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The altered books project at: http://www.logolalia.com/alteredbooks/ has been updated with new work by: Michelle Taransky, Nico Vassilakis, Sheila E. Murphy, Marlea J. Waber, Jim Leftwich, Geof Huth, Holly Crawford, Tim Martin, Kristen McQuillin, Ross Priddle, and Adeena Karasick. Enjoy, Dan ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:06:32 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: PUB: call for submissions from arab-american poets MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>PUB: call for submissions from arab-american poets =============================================== Call For Submissions: Anthology of Contemporary Arab American Poetry The following is a call for submissions from Hayan Charara: I am compiling an anthology of contemporary Arab-American poetry that a major university press has expressed interest in publishing. The anthology is intended to be a comprehensive collection of Arab-American poetry. To be considered for inclusion in the anthology, contributors and contributions must meet two criteria: (1) Contributors must be of Arab descent, and (2) original poems must be written in English, i.e., no translations. "Arab-American" themes or subject matter are welcomed but not required. Previously published material is preferred. While I have many poetry collections written by Arab-American poets, I do not have all of them. Please consider sending books (photocopies or printed manuscripts are welcomed) so that I have a complete and up-to-date sampling of your work. Email submissions are accepted, but hard copies are preferred. Any books sent will be returned if requested (please include SASE with sufficient postage). Otherwise, submissions will not be returned--please do not send your only copy. The press would like to see a manuscript of the anthology in the fall. To accommodate this, and to ensure a top-notch manuscript, deadline for submission is to September 15, 2005. Inquires and/or email submissions should be sent to: Hard copy submissions should be sent to: Hayan Charara Editor, Anthology of Contemporary Arab American Poetry 4905 Avenue G Austin, TX 78751 Remember to include a SASE for reply. Finally, please pass this message on to anyone who may be interested or may be able to spread the word. Thanks. Stay Strong\ \ "Be a friend to the oppressed and an enemy to the oppressor" \ --Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib (as)\ \ "This mathematical rhythmatical mechanism enhances my wisdom\ of Islam, keeps me calm from doing you harm, when I attack, it's Vietnam"\ --HellRazah\ \ "It's not too good to stay in a white man's country too long"\ --Mutabartuka\ \ "As for we who have decided to break the back of colonialism, \ our historic mission is to sanction all revolts, all desperate \ actions, all those abortive attempts drowned in rivers of blood."\ - Frantz Fanon\ \ "Everyday is Ashura and every land is Kerbala"\ -Imam Ja'far Sadiq\ \ http://scratchcue.blogspot.com/ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html \ http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_comments/766_0_15_0_C/ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/ \ "For African people on the continent the image of Afrikans in America is that of a bunch of heavily armed Black men who only stop fighting each other long enough to put a dollar in Chocolate Thunda's thong at tha strip club."\ --min paul scott --"How MTV Underdeveloped Africa: Pistols, Pimps and Pan Africanism"\ \ M.E.D.I.A.: (MisEducation Destroying Intelligent Afrikans) \ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THCO2/ \ } ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:43:37 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: The Arab in Me - Italian Derivatives of Arabic Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Strange thing about Arab anscestry: I was watching an Arab film (honestly I= can't remember the title, but it had to do with this woman who was, OH! it= 's called Bedouin Hacker... [SP?]) and there was a note (from the moderator= who was showing the film, at the University here (Towson) in which she sai= d the word for slippers, in Arabic, is "baboosh". Now, I grew up speaking a= very drawl-driven Italian dialect from Bari (Palo del Colle is the town my= mother is, so we speak "da Pal'" or "paloise" but not necessarily "Barez" = and the word we use for slippers is also "baboosh". Now, I knew we had Gree= k and Slavic influences in my family (regional, the Slavs were just across = the adriatic, I think Albanian mostly 'cause they'd come over to work in Pu= glia) but Arabic? This is a shocking and delightful surprise; I always knew= I was %100 Italian but what does that mean? Of course it's nationalisitic = of me to pronouce a purity of ethnicity - Italian - but all the surrounding= influences are now just coming out, just by the words in the language. Ano= ther example of appropriation: my grendparents and some of my aunts and unc= les moved to the USA for a few years and they picked up some American words= which they "Italianized". One of my favorites was, and this is phonetic, "= Bockouse". Now, the strange etymology of the word (I believe only my immedi= ate family, that it, anyone derived from my Grandparents and their children= and children's children plus cousins and such, use the word): when my Gran= dparents moved to Brooklyn, NY they lived in an apartment where there was n= o bathroom in the building, so they had to use an outhouse, or "backhouse",= and this eventually became "bockouse". I still notice a lot of family inte= rtwining Italian and English, especially slang terms like "OK" and "Sure (S= ho)". So, I'd like to say, just by the use of "baboosh" and perhaps there a= re other words I'm not too familiar with, their etymology at least, that I'= m pretty sure we have family, perhaps distant, who have Arab blood, which m= akes me a bit of the Arab, I don't know how much, probably a tiny bit, but = I do know that the evolution of the dialect is pretty fast, I mean, within = three generations the dialect will sound so different from it's former that= I'll make a bet that those living 100 years apart have a difficult time un= derstanding each other. I'm assuming with the on-set of the industrial revo= lution, and Bari being a port city, a number of influences have to have ent= ered the culture, and I am finally understanding the implications of this i= nfluence. Now I understand that dialects are different from the mother tong= ue, but here's a great example of nonsense dialect in action! If I want to say "Let's go" in Italian we say "andiamo" but in the dialect = we say "shamanin da doe", again, phonetic, but that's not even close!=20 Also, is there a rural French dialect that is almost completely different t= han the mother tongue? I also notice, in films using a very hard rural Fren= ch dialect, a distinction in words that are similar to my dialect. Perhaps = the cross polination of cultures can be found in the languages, and this mi= ght help me find out who exactly my anscestors could have been. Anyone care= to share examples, possibly point me in the direction of some scholarship = on the language problem? If anyone would like to share some language problems with me, especially in= talking with me about the dialect, if there is some possibility that I can= throw some phrases out at folks and perhaps they might notice some, at lea= st phonetic similarities, this would be a breakthrough. Does anyone have any insight into my case?=20 Yours, Christophe Casamassima --=20 _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for just= US$9.95 per year! Powered by Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:50:01 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Pierre Joris Subject: Re: PUB: call for submissions from arab-american poets In-Reply-To: <42A5A9E8.6030909@telus.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Jun 7, 2005, at 10:06 AM, Ishaq wrote: > > To be considered for inclusion in the anthology, > (2) original poems must be written in English, i.e., no > translations. > that's an eerily imperialistic imposition -- what of first-generation =20= Arab-Americans who still want to or can only work in their native =20 tongues? Or, for that matter anyone of whatever generation of Arabic =20 descent who wants to write (for whatever reason, & there can be many =20 ((for example the poltical decision not to or no longer to write in =20 the invader's language))!) in a language other than "English" (why =20 not call it "American" to begin with?) A disastrous requirement, in fact, from a political cultural =20 perspective. Pierre ___________________________________________________________ The poet: always in partibus infidelium =97 Paul Celan ___________________________________________________________ Pierre Joris 244 Elm Street Albany NY 12202 h: 518 426 0433 c: 518 225 7123 o: 518 442 40 85 email: joris@albany.edu http://www.albany.edu/~joris/ blog:http://pjoris.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:47:58 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Nancy Jewell Subject: Re: Ken Chen's request for division/form etc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>I'm wondering if anyone can help me with some critical texts on the content/form division? I'm assuming that we get it from the mind/body division and Aristotle's lexis/logos dichotomy, but I'm interested in reading critiques, defenses and histories of it. <<< I know this would be a discussion too in-depth to front-post all the info Ken will receive backchannel, on the other hand, one of the reasons I signed up for this listserv was to learn and discuss the deeper elements of poetics. I've been somewhat disappointed to find primarily event announcements and personal slams tossed around. If this could be the beginning of a learning experience for all of us, a poetic interchange, I think Ken poses a profitable inquiry and underscores the stated purpose of the listserv: "to support, inform, and extend those directions in poetry that are committed to innovations, renovations and investigations of form and/or content" etc. Would love to see this discussion extended for list perusal. nancy. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:59:20 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Charles Bernstein Subject: Re: Recommended Summer Reading Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Recommended Summer Reading, II Barbara Guest, The Red Gaze (Wesleyan University Press) Douglas Messerli, ed., The PIP Anthology of World Poetry of the 20th=20 Century, vol. 5: Intersections: Innovative Poetry of Southern California,=20 with provocative intro.by Messerli Will Alexander, Exobiology as Goddess (Manifest Press) Jos=E9 Lezama Lima,= =20 Selections, ed. & intro. Ernesto Livon-Grosman (University of California= Press) Juliana Spahr, This Connection of Anyone With Lungs (University of=20 California Press) Norman Fischer, Slowly but Dearly (Chax) Maria Damon & Miekal And, pleasureTEXTpossession (Zasterle) Boisterous and engaging collaboration culminating in a visual tour de=20 force, "E.n.t.r.a.n.c.e.d" Keith Waldrop, The Real Subject: Queries and Conjectures of Jacob Delafon=20 with Sample Poems (Omnidawn) Thomas Fink, After Taxes (Marsh Hawk Press) Pablo Picasso, The Burial of the Count of Orgaz & Other Poems. ed. & tr.=20 Jerome Rothenberg & Pierre Joris (Exact Change) Amelia Rosselli , War Variations; tr. Lucia Re & Paul Vangelisti, afterword= =20 by Pier Paolo Pasolini (Green Integer) Douglas Messerli, First Words (Green Integer) Jerome Rothenberg, Translations and Variations (Wesleyan) Adrienne Rich -- The School Among the Ruins (Norton) Chris Tysh, Cleavage (Roof) Charles Alexander, near or random acts (Singling Horse) Louise H. Forsyth, ed., Nicole Brossard: Essays on Her Work (Guernica= Editions) Leslie Scalapino, ed. War and Peace (O Books) Taylor Brady, Yesterday=92s News (Factory School) Michelle Leggott, Milk & Honey (New Zealand University Press) Elizabeth Treadwell, Chantry (Chax) Merril Gilfillan, Small Wonders (Qua Books) James Longenbach, The Resistance to Poetry (University of Chicago) me Leslie Scalapino and Judith Goldman, ed. War and Peace 2 (O Books) Peter Gizzi, Periplum and Other Poems (Salt) Gilbert Sorrentino, New and Selected Poems: 1958-1998 by (Green Integer) Rodrigo Toscano, To Leveling Swerve (Krupsaya) Kenneth Goldsmith, The Weather (Make Now) Ted Greenwald, The Up and Up (Atelos) Mark Wallace, Temporary Worker Rides the Subway (Green Integer) Bernadette Mayer, Indigo Bunting (Zasterle Press) Eileen Tabios, I Take Thee, English, for My Beloved (Marsh Hawk) David McAleavy, Huge Haiku (Chax) Lev Rubinstein, Catalog of Comedic Novelties, tr. Philip Meters and=20 Tatiana Tulchinsky (Ugly Duckling Presse) Phillip Foss, The Ideation (Singing Horse) Jen Bevin, Nets (Ugly Duckling) Ron Silliman, Under Albany (Salt Publishing) Jonathan Skinner, Political Cactus Poems (Palm Tree Press) Paul Auster, Collected Prose (Picador) Ravi Shankar, Instrumentality (Cherry Grove Press) Sasha Steensen, A Magic Book (Fence Books) Steve Benson, Open Clothes (Atelos) Heidi Lynn Staples, Guess Can Gallop (New Issues Press / Western Michigan=20 University Press) Gerald Bruns, The Material of Poetry: Sketches for a Philosophical Poetics= =20 (University of Georgia Press) Dimitri Prigov, 500 Drops of Blood in an Absorbent Medium, tr. Christopher= =20 Mattison (Ugly Duckling Press) Peter Jaeger, Ekhardt Cars, (Salt Publishing) Paul Celan, Threadsuns, tr. Pierre Joris (Green Integer) * Toward the Open Field: Poets on the Art of Poetry 1800-1950, ed. Melissa=20 Kwansy (Wesleyan University Press) Poetry in Theory: An Anthology 1900-2000, ed. Jon Cook (Blackwell) * NOTE ALSO Our new books from the University of Alabama Modern and Contemporary Poetry= =20 Series -- Abigail Child, This is Called Moving: A Critical Poetics of Film (just out= =20 this week) Peter Middleton, Distant Reading: Performance, Readership, and Consumption= =20 in Contemporary Poetry Aldon Nielsen, Integral Music: Languages of African-American Innovation ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:12:44 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: ALDON L NIELSEN Subject: Re: Recommended Summer Reading MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain great books -- but Charles, you must have a longer summer than most of us! On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:59:20 +0000, Charles Bernstein wrote: > Recommended Summer Reading, II > > Barbara Guest, The Red Gaze (Wesleyan University Press) > > Douglas Messerli, ed., The PIP Anthology of World Poetry of the 20th > Century, vol. 5: Intersections: Innovative Poetry of Southern California, > with provocative intro.by Messerli > > Will Alexander, Exobiology as Goddess (Manifest Press) José Lezama Lima, > Selections, ed. & intro. Ernesto Livon-Grosman (University of California Press) > > Juliana Spahr, This Connection of Anyone With Lungs (University of > California Press) > > Norman Fischer, Slowly but Dearly (Chax) > > Maria Damon & Miekal And, pleasureTEXTpossession (Zasterle) > Boisterous and engaging collaboration culminating in a visual tour de > force, "E.n.t.r.a.n.c.e.d" > > Keith Waldrop, The Real Subject: Queries and Conjectures of Jacob Delafon > with Sample Poems (Omnidawn) > > Thomas Fink, After Taxes (Marsh Hawk Press) > > Pablo Picasso, The Burial of the Count of Orgaz & Other Poems. ed. & tr. > Jerome Rothenberg & Pierre Joris (Exact Change) > > Amelia Rosselli , War Variations; tr. Lucia Re & Paul Vangelisti, afterword > by Pier Paolo Pasolini (Green Integer) > > Douglas Messerli, First Words (Green Integer) > > Jerome Rothenberg, Translations and Variations (Wesleyan) > > Adrienne Rich -- The School Among the Ruins (Norton) > > Chris Tysh, Cleavage (Roof) > > Charles Alexander, near or random acts (Singling Horse) > > Louise H. Forsyth, ed., Nicole Brossard: Essays on Her Work (Guernica Editions) > > Leslie Scalapino, ed. War and Peace (O Books) > > Taylor Brady, Yesterday’s News (Factory School) > > Michelle Leggott, Milk & Honey (New Zealand University Press) > > Elizabeth Treadwell, Chantry (Chax) > > Merril Gilfillan, Small Wonders (Qua Books) > > James Longenbach, The Resistance to Poetry (University of Chicago) > me > > Leslie Scalapino and Judith Goldman, ed. War and Peace 2 (O Books) > > Peter Gizzi, Periplum and Other Poems (Salt) > > Gilbert Sorrentino, New and Selected Poems: 1958-1998 by (Green Integer) > > Rodrigo Toscano, To Leveling Swerve (Krupsaya) > Kenneth Goldsmith, The Weather (Make Now) > > Ted Greenwald, The Up and Up (Atelos) > > Mark Wallace, Temporary Worker Rides the Subway (Green Integer) > > Bernadette Mayer, Indigo Bunting (Zasterle Press) > > Eileen Tabios, I Take Thee, English, for My Beloved (Marsh Hawk) > > David McAleavy, Huge Haiku (Chax) > > Lev Rubinstein, Catalog of Comedic Novelties, tr. Philip Meters and > Tatiana Tulchinsky (Ugly Duckling Presse) > > Phillip Foss, The Ideation (Singing Horse) > > Jen Bevin, Nets (Ugly Duckling) > > Ron Silliman, Under Albany (Salt Publishing) > > Jonathan Skinner, Political Cactus Poems (Palm Tree Press) > > Paul Auster, Collected Prose (Picador) > > Ravi Shankar, Instrumentality (Cherry Grove Press) > > Sasha Steensen, A Magic Book (Fence Books) > > Steve Benson, Open Clothes (Atelos) > > Heidi Lynn Staples, Guess Can Gallop (New Issues Press / Western Michigan > University Press) > > Gerald Bruns, The Material of Poetry: Sketches for a Philosophical Poetics > (University of Georgia Press) > > Dimitri Prigov, 500 Drops of Blood in an Absorbent Medium, tr. Christopher > Mattison (Ugly Duckling Press) > > Peter Jaeger, Ekhardt Cars, (Salt Publishing) > > Paul Celan, Threadsuns, tr. Pierre Joris (Green Integer) > > > * > > Toward the Open Field: Poets on the Art of Poetry 1800-1950, ed. Melissa > Kwansy (Wesleyan University Press) > > Poetry in Theory: An Anthology 1900-2000, ed. Jon Cook (Blackwell) > > > * > > NOTE ALSO > Our new books from the University of Alabama Modern and Contemporary Poetry > Series -- > > Abigail Child, This is Called Moving: A Critical Poetics of Film (just out > this week) > > Peter Middleton, Distant Reading: Performance, Readership, and Consumption > in Contemporary Poetry > > Aldon Nielsen, Integral Music: Languages of African-American Innovation > > > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Breaking in bright Orthography . . ." --Emily Dickinson Aldon L. Nielsen Kelly Professor of American Literature The Pennsylvania State University 116 Burrowes University Park, PA 16802-6200 (814) 865-0091 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:35:32 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: Recommended Summer Reading List, Joris and me Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 I was just kidding about the whole writing thing.=20 I'm not writing a damn word this summer.=20 My mother's birthday is in a week and a half. And I no longer know what it means to have a national identity. Just when I thought I was on the verge of "Going Home" i.e. finding my root= s, I find that they're entwined with the neighbor's tree. Sarajevo, or "Sar= acevo" as my father told me,those are new roots to me. Then he says "Arabia= ", I told him that (look at my last posting) but he confirmed it. Mutt, damnit. Pure mutt. I've regressed from purity of body, blood.=20 If I sound like a fascist, I'm only trying to get in touch with my deeper s= elf. Charles, back channel me. I have very important information concerning the = state of the heart. Christophe Casamassima --=20 _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for just= US$9.95 per year! Powered by Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:37:11 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Paolo Javier Subject: Re: **Boog NYC Series Needs Yr Non-NY Press ASAP** MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi david: im thinking of nomados press from vancouver, b.c., run and operated by peter and meredith quartermain. they've given me their blessing to rep for them, so lemme kno if this works for u? also, im an O Books author so i can rep for leslie as well... hope ur well! best, paolo -- Paolo Javier 917 805 6403 PSjavier@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:06:28 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Simon DeDeo Subject: recommended summer reading MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I remember this tradition from my first time on the list years and years ago. I also remember wondering "who has the time?" But I wanted to stir the pot this time and ask two more pointed questions: 1. What is the role of the classics in a Summer reading list? Are we supposed to have already read everyone of importance and not who died before 1950? One gets the sense that a certain section of poets go to the classics a little like the whalers in Moby Dick (which, natch, I'm in the middle of right now.) You go out into the open seas, track down a dangerous leviathan, and put the oil into barrells to take home to Nantucket. Which means that same section do not *live* with the classics, but rather treat them as weirdo sources of poetic inspiration, a kind of rare but important oil. We're meant to live with our contemporaries, to share their writing lives, but the old boys and girls are sort of dead to us. Meanwhile, there's the opposite extreme. I'm thinking of someone like Geoffery Hill. 2. I get the sense from reading, e.g., Ron's blog, or looking around at these reading lists, that the goal is to read some huge amount of work -- to "keep afloat." I fear the man of one book. Whatever happened to concentrated reading? Will anyone produce a reading list one item long? I'm in the middle of reading the first issue of LANGUAGE, which I downloaded off a Princeton website. It's far, far more exciting than I expected. Since I write my blog, I keep up with the journals that are coming out, and I haven't come across anything as dynamic -- this weird kind of mixture of creative and critical thinking, merged without any kind of pretention... Oh, Juliana Spahr's lungs book is totally fantastic, and everyone should read it. -- Feynman i ptitza -- bol'shie druz'ia ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:26:38 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Bill Marsh Subject: Re: recommended summer reading In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >1. What is the role of the classics in a Summer reading list? >2. Will anyone produce a reading list one item long? >> The Didascalicon of Hugh of Saint Victor: A Medieval Guide to the Arts. Translated with an Introduction by Jerome Taylor (New York, 1961). ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:11:40 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Gabriel Gudding Subject: 68 Poets -- MiPoesias Magazine -- guest editor / gabriel gudding Comments: cc: chinavieja@aol.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable M i P o e s i a s - Revista Literaria S U M M E R 2005 -- Guest Editor / Gabriel Gudding Original Poems, Translations, Interviews http://www.mipoesias.com/Volume19Issue3Gudding/ Featuring: Alan Sondheim Poems by MICHAEL McCLURE JEROME ROTHENBERG JOANNE KYGER CHRISTIAN B=D6K RAE ARMANTROUT RON SILLIMAN DAVID LEHMAN AMY GERSTLER PAUL VIOLI LARA GLENUM BRIAN KIM STEFANS JOSH COREY LISA JARNOT DALE SMITH KENT JOHNSON JENNY BOULLY LAURA MULLEN K. SILEM MOHAMMAD SIMON PERCHIK JENNIFER K. DICK JOANNA CATHERINE SCOTT DENISE DUHAMEL HEIDI LYNN STAPLES PANCY MAURER-ALVAREZ JENNA CARDINALE JASPER BERNES ROBERT FERNANDEZ REB LIVINGSTON ALLYSON SALAZAR GEOFF BOUVIER RONALD PALMER PETER RAMOS DANIEL BORZUTZKY JOE AMATO JEFF HARRISON KASS FLEISHER ANNY BALLARDINI MICHAEL ROTHENBERG CHRIS PUSATERI JORGE GITART PETER DAVIS KARL PARKER CATHERINE DALY HOLLY IGLESIAS KATIA KAPOVICH AARON McCOLLOUGH STANDARD SCHAEFER LOUISE LANDES LEVI CARL MARTIN RANDALL WILLIAMS JOHN BEER JUSTIN LACOUR NGO TU LAP AMY KING KEN RUMBLE JULIAN SEMILIAN EDEN OSUCH RACHEL LODEN ELIZABETH HATMAKER Translations -- Ancient Greek, Spanish, Vietnamese, and Romanian Luis de=20 Sandoval Zapata Garcilaso de la Vega translated by Roberto Tejada Virginia=20 Guti=E9rrez Berner translated by Jorge Guitart Reina Mar=EDa= =20 Rodr=EDguez translated by Kristin Dykstra Caridad= Atencio translated by Holly Iglesias Mien Dang translated by Linh Dinh Sophocles translated by John Tipton Rito Ram=F3n= Aroche translated by Kristin Dykstra and Henrry Lezama Gellu Naum Gherasim Luca Tristan Tzara translated by Julian Semilian INTERVIEWS Reb= =20 Livingston Geoff= =20 Bouvier Ronald= =20 Palmer Ron= =20 Silliman David= =20 Lehman Denise= =20 Duhamel Heidi= =20 Lynn Staples Jasper= =20 Bernes ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:11:41 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: MAXINE CHERNOFF Subject: CONOLEY AND CHERNOFF'S NEW BOOKS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > >Dear Friends, > >Please join Maxine Chernoff and Gillian Conoley at City Lights, 261 >Colombus Ave, San Francisco, on Tuesday June 14, 7 pm, for a reading >to celebrate the publication of their new collections. > >MAXINE CHERNOFF-- Among the Names > > > >"What Maxine Chernoff finds Among the Names is a rectitude so pure >that it not only rights but literally delights the heart. Here, most >tender is most true, and tenderness shines in the cadences, each of >which is new, all of which attain to love. This book is entirely >beautiful." -Donald Revell > >Maxine Chernoff is the author of six collections of fiction, >including the New York Times Book Review Notable Book of 1993, Signs >of Devotion. Both her novel, American Heaven, and her book of short >stories, Some of Her Friends that Year, were finalists for the Bay >Area Book Reviewers Award. Her seven books of poetry include World: >Poems 1991-2001 and Evolution of the Bridge: Selected Prose Poems >(Salt Publishing, Cambridge, England). Editor of New American >Writing, she lives with poet Paul Hoover and their three children in >Mill Valley, California. > > GILLIAN CONOLEY-- Profane Halo >"Out of the old beliefs a new >language speaks. We said this yesterday, and today the words are >stronger. I am taken by surprise by the wit and jeopardy, by the >way an ending is avoided on the surface of the book's meaning. I am >excited by the triumph of this writing."-- Barbara Guest > >"A poetic vision that is utterly original and utterly >transforming."-- The American Book Review > >Gillian Conoley is the author of six collections of poetry, >including Lovers in the Used World (finalist for Bay Area Book >Award), Beckon, Tall Stranger (nominee for the National Book >Critics' Circle Award), and Some Gangster Pain. Winner of several >Pushcart Prizes, the Jerome J. Shestack Award in Poetry, and >included in Best American Poetry, she is Poet-in-Residence and >Professor at Sonoma State University, where she is founder and >editor of Volt. > > > > > > > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 06:51:48 +1000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: K Zervos Subject: Re: Australian Literary Resources In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It needs more than volunteers. It needs a r[d]e-tranterizing of history. It needs to stop living in the romantic generation of '68 fantasy and = see the whole australian poetry culture. It needs independent editorial and direction. It needs audio and the inclusion of performance poets, past present and future. It needs youth. "John Tranter assures me power, real power, is denied those less than = 65." Robert Adamson, Editorial, 'Poetry Magazine', April 1969, Poetry Society = of Australia, Sydney. Cheers komninos komninos zervos lecturer, convenor of CyberStudies major School of Arts Griffith University Room 3.25 Multimedia Building G23 Gold Coast Campus Parkwood PMB 50 Gold Coast Mail Centre Queensland 9726 Australia Phone 07 5552 8872 Fax 07 5552 8141 homepage: http://www.gu.edu.au/ppages/k_zervos broadband experiments: http://users.bigpond.net.au/mangolegs |||-----Original Message----- |||From: UB Poetics discussion group = [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] |||On Behalf Of Evan Escent |||Sent: Sunday, 5 June 2005 6:54 PM |||To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU |||Subject: Australian Literary Resources ||| ||| ALR needs volunteers ||| to supply reviews, articles, essays, research material, ||| interviews or bibliographies relating to Australian poets. ||| ||| Please write to John Tranter: ||| |||ALR is a collection of Internet pages for Australian poets, with = poems, |||reviews, biographies, bibliographies, memoirs, photographs, critical |||articles, and lots more. Work has been proceeding quietly on the |||Australian |||Literature Resources project at |||http://www.austlit.com/a/poe/index.html ||| |||Recently updated: ||| |||1) |||Lionel Fogarty |||http://www.austlit.com/a/poe/foga/hopfer.html |||>Sabina Hopfer: Re-reading Lionel Fogarty: An attempt to feel into = texts |||>speaking of decolonisation. This piece is 6,800 words or about = twelve |||>printed pages long. [This complements this earlier item: > Lionel |||Fogarty |||>in conversation with Philip Mead, an interview that took place in |||Brisbane, |||>Australia, at the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Legal = Service, |||on |||>Armistice Day, 11 November, 1994. It is about 18 printed pages = long.] ||| |||2) |||Kate Lilley |||http://www.austlit.com/a/poe/lilley-k/index.html |||>Eighteen poems (from Jacket magazine): Discovery / Finally / In the = Sun |||/ |||>Lady-in-Waiting / Quality Control / As Is / Georgic / (say) when / = say |||so / |||>Anamorphosis / Starry Messanger / Spruce / Lady in the Dark / It = follows |||/ |||>Sequel / Cento =97 Around Vienna / Miltonic / My Bad |||>Kate Lilley: This L=3DA=3DN=3DG=3DU=3DA=3DG=3DE (from Jacket 2) |||>Pam Brown reviews Versary, by Kate Lilley |||>John Wilkinson reviews Versary, by Kate Lilley, Salt Publishing = 2002, |||pp98 ||| |||3) |||Rae Desmond Jones |||http://www.austlit.com/a/poe/jones-r-d/index.html |||>Rae Desmond Jones: A selection of poems: Black dog / Writers have = always |||>been an endangered species / Dino at la candela pizza / dear steven, = / |||the |||>extra big mac / pig |||>John Tranter=92s 1974 review of Orpheus With a Tuba, by Rae Desmond = Jones, |||in |||>an omnibus review article in the Survey section of this site ||| |||4) |||John Kinsella |||http://www.austlit.com/a/poe/kins/index.html |||>A selection of (twenty-two) poems: Graphology 108 / Graphology 111 / |||>Graphology 112 / Graphology 114 / Graphology 115: Hobbies? / = Graphology |||>116: Pre- Composition / Living Conditions. Cambridge / Cambridge = Morning |||>Meditation / The leaden light / moral poetry in cambridge... / On = the |||>Rejection of the Term =93Property=94 for This Place (2001) / Amnesia = (2001) |||/ |||>Fog and Linnets (2001) / Visiting Wittgenstein=92s Grave in Winter, = 1999 / |||>And Everyone Gathered In Objection Yet Again (1999) / The Dam = Busters |||>(1998) / Honest, Theocritus! (1997) / Five Ern Malley poems (1992) = with |||an |||>Introduction: Aural Palette Yelp / cloven / Dark Eclipse / Careerism |||gone |||>mad verging on hubris / loy polloi love song |||>Cambridge Notes (1996) This piece is about five printed pages long. = It |||was |||>written in 1996 when John Kinsella was first resident in Cambridge, |||>England. ||| |||5) |||joanne burns |||http://www.austlit.com/a/poe/burns-j/index.html |||>A selection of poems: dependence day / after reading Keats=92 Ode on |||>Melancholy / carnal knowledge / golden triangle / another new year / |||>digital recording ( after eliot) / traffic / watchdog / marinations |||>A larger version of a photo of joanne burns at Bondi Promenade = mid-1940s ||| |||6) |||Pam Brown |||http://www.austlit.com/a/poe/brown-p/index.html |||>A longer biographical note |||>A selection of poems: Anyworld / In Brittany / Leaning / I remember |||>dexedrine. 1970 / Twitching / Drifting topoi / Vapours / |||>Statements |||>Bibliography |||>In conversation with John Kinsella (from Jacket magazine, = illustrated, |||15 |||>pages) ||| |||_________________________________________________________________ |||FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! |||http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ||| |||-- |||No virus found in this incoming message. |||Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. |||Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 4/06/05 ||| --=20 No virus found in this outgoing message. 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Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.4 - Release Date: 6/06/05 =20 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 06:55:14 +1000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: K Zervos Subject: Re: Australian Literary Resources In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit By the way evan, are you related to lumen and ira? komninos zervos lecturer, convenor of CyberStudies major School of Arts Griffith University Room 3.25 Multimedia Building G23 Gold Coast Campus Parkwood PMB 50 Gold Coast Mail Centre Queensland 9726 Australia Phone 07 5552 8872 Fax 07 5552 8141 homepage: http://www.gu.edu.au/ppages/k_zervos broadband experiments: http://users.bigpond.net.au/mangolegs |||-----Original Message----- |||From: UB Poetics discussion group [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] |||On Behalf Of Evan Escent |||Sent: Sunday, 5 June 2005 6:54 PM |||To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU |||Subject: Australian Literary Resources -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.4 - Release Date: 6/06/05 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:34:57 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Re: Recommended Summer Reading In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050606101006.048d5790@writing.upenn.edu> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Charles, a couple "summer reading" posts back, recommended Meredith Quartermain's new, totally intriguing, Meredith Quartermain's book, Vancouver Walking (NeWest). I suggest it works well as a good counterpoint to Lisa Robertson's, "Occasional Work and Seven Walks from the Office for Soft Architecture" (Clear Cut Press). A series that also finds theoretical and specific home in Vancouver environs. Both are interesting in terms of extending the Vancouver "school" tradition of looking closely into the matrix of City, of whose very good writers include George Stanley, Brain Fawcett,Daphne Marlatt among no doubt others With Robertson - tho one might pull hair over the high glib tone (voice) - = I was reading out loud in the kitchen once to my partner the esteemed photography curator who began to lift the kitchen pot in my direction as a = I read her aloud the essay on Eugene Atget - oh well, with Robertson, I had begun to say, we begin to get a much wanted weave (for me) of multiple mediums (photograph, theory, language, etc.) under and overlay of approache= s to encountering, negotiation and building upon urban space. Meredith's intense factuality and historical sense - and the process of walking and living within the space - counterfoils Robertson's imaginative and theoretical throne - somehow the two books feed each other. Ah, read them! Of course W Benjamin, Reznikoff, Patterson (WCW), Watten (Detroit) and Joseph Cornell are always breathing - even battling - under the thick of this. Hope somebody is writing a big City poets, painters, etc. book (thesis) readable somewhere! Stephen V Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com =20 > Recommended Summer Reading, II >=20 > Barbara Guest, The Red Gaze (Wesleyan University Press) >=20 > Douglas Messerli, ed., The PIP Anthology of World Poetry of the 20th > Century, vol. 5: Intersections: Innovative Poetry of Southern California, > with provocative intro.by Messerli >=20 > Will Alexander, Exobiology as Goddess (Manifest Press) Jos=E9 Lezama Lima, > Selections, ed. & intro. Ernesto Livon-Grosman (University of California > Press) >=20 > Juliana Spahr, This Connection of Anyone With Lungs (University of > California Press) >=20 > Norman Fischer, Slowly but Dearly (Chax) >=20 > Maria Damon & Miekal And, pleasureTEXTpossession (Zasterle) > Boisterous and engaging collaboration culminating in a visual tour de > force, "E.n.t.r.a.n.c.e.d" >=20 > Keith Waldrop, The Real Subject: Queries and Conjectures of Jacob Delafon > with Sample Poems (Omnidawn) >=20 > Thomas Fink, After Taxes (Marsh Hawk Press) >=20 > Pablo Picasso, The Burial of the Count of Orgaz & Other Poems. ed. & tr. > Jerome Rothenberg & Pierre Joris (Exact Change) >=20 > Amelia Rosselli , War Variations; tr. Lucia Re & Paul Vangelisti, afterwo= rd > by Pier Paolo Pasolini (Green Integer) >=20 > Douglas Messerli, First Words (Green Integer) >=20 > Jerome Rothenberg, Translations and Variations (Wesleyan) >=20 > Adrienne Rich -- The School Among the Ruins (Norton) >=20 > Chris Tysh, Cleavage (Roof) >=20 > Charles Alexander, near or random acts (Singling Horse) >=20 > Louise H. Forsyth, ed., Nicole Brossard: Essays on Her Work (Guernica > Editions) >=20 > Leslie Scalapino, ed. War and Peace (O Books) >=20 > Taylor Brady, Yesterday=92s News (Factory School) >=20 > Michelle Leggott, Milk & Honey (New Zealand University Press) >=20 > Elizabeth Treadwell, Chantry (Chax) >=20 > Merril Gilfillan, Small Wonders (Qua Books) >=20 > James Longenbach, The Resistance to Poetry (University of Chicago) > me >=20 > Leslie Scalapino and Judith Goldman, ed. War and Peace 2 (O Books) >=20 > Peter Gizzi, Periplum and Other Poems (Salt) >=20 > Gilbert Sorrentino, New and Selected Poems: 1958-1998 by (Green Integer) >=20 > Rodrigo Toscano, To Leveling Swerve (Krupsaya) > Kenneth Goldsmith, The Weather (Make Now) >=20 > Ted Greenwald, The Up and Up (Atelos) >=20 > Mark Wallace, Temporary Worker Rides the Subway (Green Integer) >=20 > Bernadette Mayer, Indigo Bunting (Zasterle Press) >=20 > Eileen Tabios, I Take Thee, English, for My Beloved (Marsh Hawk) >=20 > David McAleavy, Huge Haiku (Chax) >=20 > Lev Rubinstein, Catalog of Comedic Novelties, tr. Philip Meters and > Tatiana Tulchinsky (Ugly Duckling Presse) >=20 > Phillip Foss, The Ideation (Singing Horse) >=20 > Jen Bevin, Nets (Ugly Duckling) >=20 > Ron Silliman, Under Albany (Salt Publishing) >=20 > Jonathan Skinner, Political Cactus Poems (Palm Tree Press) >=20 > Paul Auster, Collected Prose (Picador) >=20 > Ravi Shankar, Instrumentality (Cherry Grove Press) >=20 > Sasha Steensen, A Magic Book (Fence Books) >=20 > Steve Benson, Open Clothes (Atelos) >=20 > Heidi Lynn Staples, Guess Can Gallop (New Issues Press / Western Michigan > University Press) >=20 > Gerald Bruns, The Material of Poetry: Sketches for a Philosophical Poetic= s > (University of Georgia Press) >=20 > Dimitri Prigov, 500 Drops of Blood in an Absorbent Medium, tr. Christophe= r > Mattison (Ugly Duckling Press) >=20 > Peter Jaeger, Ekhardt Cars, (Salt Publishing) >=20 > Paul Celan, Threadsuns, tr. Pierre Joris (Green Integer) >=20 >=20 > * >=20 > Toward the Open Field: Poets on the Art of Poetry 1800-1950, ed. Melissa > Kwansy (Wesleyan University Press) >=20 > Poetry in Theory: An Anthology 1900-2000, ed. Jon Cook (Blackwell) >=20 >=20 > * >=20 > NOTE ALSO > Our new books from the University of Alabama Modern and Contemporary Poet= ry > Series -- >=20 > Abigail Child, This is Called Moving: A Critical Poetics of Film (just ou= t > this week) >=20 > Peter Middleton, Distant Reading: Performance, Readership, and Consumptio= n > in Contemporary Poetry >=20 > Aldon Nielsen, Integral Music: Languages of African-American Innovation ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 19:46:01 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: poetics@BUFFALO.EDU Subject: fwd: Launch of the "Poets on Poets" audio archive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: "Tilar J. Mazzeo" Hello, I am delighted to announce that the Poets on Poets archive at Romantic Circles is now up and running. You can visit the site or add a link at http://www.rc.umd.edu/editions/poets/index.html. On the web-pages, you will find five terrific inaugural readings and a schedule of future launch dates and forthcoming readings/readers (updated weekly). We will be releasing a new poem each week and currently have readings in production into 2006. We will continue to archive all recordings. If you would like to receive a monthly newsletter announcing new releases, you can sign up on the site. Please let me know if you would like to suggest a fellow poet as a reader or feel free to suggest that interested readers contact me directly. We are actively seeking new contributions so that the archive can continue to expand. If you are already a contributor, there have been some changes to the initial release schedule, so if you have already sent your recording in and are awaiting its release, please do check the date. If you are among the forthcoming contributors, I look forward to your recording at your convenience. There's absolutely no rush, but I will welcome the file whenever you are able to send it. Many thanks to you all for contributing to the richness of the archive. All best, Tilar ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 19:51:06 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: poetics@BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Douglas Messerli Author Page at EPC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The Electronic Poetry Center http://epc.buffalo.edu is pleased to announce a new author page for Douglas Messerli (edited by Jack Krick) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:55:50 -0230 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kevin Hehir Subject: Re: recommended summer reading Comments: To: Bill Marsh In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII HI Bill, I took a medieval theology course years ago and we had to read that. Mind blowing. All of that stuff is mind blowing. Henry Suso, Beatrice of Nazarath, Marguerite Porete. Helps the Heidegger go down too. You might be also interested in: Illich, Ivan. In the vineyard of the text : a commentary to Hugh's Didascalicon. Chicago : University of Chicago Press, 1993. I bought a copy at Talking Leaves in Buff many years ago. As for summer reading and the classics. I've been picking away at E.P. Thompson's Making of the English Working Class for years. A coupel of chapters turns me onto enough people, places and things to keep me busy for a while. cheers, kevin On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Bill Marsh wrote: > >1. What is the role of the classics in a Summer reading list? > > >2. Will anyone produce a reading list one item long? > > >> The Didascalicon of Hugh of Saint Victor: A Medieval Guide to the > Arts. Translated > with an Introduction by Jerome Taylor (New York, 1961). > -- --------------------------------------------------- http://nedaftersnowslides.com/ Hypertext fiction by Don Austin ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:54:24 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Small Press Traffic Subject: Jonathan Skinner in San Francisco 6/17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Small Press Traffic's series will continue in the fall and in the meantime we are happy to recommend this upcoming event.... Please join the San Francisco Factory School editors for a reading by Jonathan Skinner in celebration of his new book, Political Cactus Poems (Palm Press, 2005) on Friday, June 17th in San Francisco. Reading begins at 7:30, with a potluck beginning at 6:30. Address for the reading is 173 29th St., SF. Please contact Taylor Brady (cartograffiti@sbcglobal.net) for directions or more information. --- Jonathan Skinner was born in Santa Fe, New Mexico in 1967 and has lived in Mexico, England, Italy, France and, most recently, New York State. Skinner is the author of _Political Cactus Poems_ (Palm Press, 2005) and edits the review _ecopoetics_ in Buffalo, NY, where he curated the Steel Bar reading series and where he continues to misidentify birds along the Niagara River. He teaches at the State University of New York and in the Buffalo public schools. About _Political Cactus Poems_, Juliana Spahr writes "Jonathan Skinner with his journal _ecopoetics_ has been showing us how it is all connected, all systemic, all wonderful even while at risk. The poems in _Political Cactus Poems_ do similar work as they tell the sad stories of contemporary politics (Milosevic and Bush show up at various moments) with the specific stories of various cacti. These poems direct and redirect our attention to the larger ethical issues of political and natural environments. They are tight, luminous poems that illustrate how the world is more complicated than most of us acknowledge." Elizabeth Treadwell Jackson, Director Small Press Traffic Literary Arts Center at CCA 1111 -- 8th Street San Francisco, CA 94107 415.551.9278 http://www.sptraffic.org ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 18:16:25 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: G8 scientists tell Bush: Act now =?ISO-8859-1?B?+g==?= or else... Comments: cc: "Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and poetics"@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU, POETRYETC@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable How long can Bush filibuster on this one? One does, if one is required to b= e religious, begin to believe the President is behaving as though he were the Anti-Christ. Is it true the Dutch are making serious plans to move the City of Amsterdam up and away from the newly rising waters? Bye-bye, Florida. Etc. We and Fox Network here in the USA will be the last to know it, but it more than ever appears that this climate biz is getting real serious. Think of it, in ten years all poetry readings will be held in Oxygen Bars! Unless= . Stephen V Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com G8 scientists tell Bush: Act now =FA or else... An unprecedented warning as global warming worsens By Steve Connor, Science Editor 08 June 2005 An unprecedented joint statement issued by the leading scientific academies of the world has called on the G8 governments to take urgent action to aver= t a global catastrophe caused by climate change. The national academies of science for all the G8 countries, along with thos= e of Brazil, India and China, have warned that governments must no longer procrastinate on what is widely seen as the greatest danger facing humanity= . The statement, which has taken months to finalise, is all the more importan= t as it is signed by Bruce Alberts, president of the US National Academy of Sciences, which has warned George Bush about the dangers of ignoring the threat posed by global warming. It was released on the day that Tony Blair met Mr Bush in Washington, where the American President was expected to reaffirm his opposition to joining the Kyoto treat to limit greenhouse gas emissions. Over dinner at the White House last night, Mr Blair appeared to make little progress on one of his main priorities for Britain's year chairing the G8 - a new international effort to combat climate change. The Prime Minister is trying to draw the US, China and India into the discussion, but there is little sign that the Bush administration will accept the growing scientific evidence about the problem. Lord May of Oxford, the president of the Royal Society, Britain's national academy of sciences, lambasted President Bush yesterday for ignoring his ow= n scientists by withdrawing from the Kyoto treaty. "The current US policy on climate change is misguided. The Bush administration has consistently refused to accept advice of the US National Academy of Sciences ... Getting the US on board is critical because of the sheer amount of greenhouse gas emissions they are responsible for," Lord May said. Between 1990 and 2002, the carbon dioxide emissions of the US increased by 13 per cent, which on their own were greater than the combined cut in emissions that will be achieved if all Kyoto countries hit their targets, h= e said. "President Bush has an opportunity at Gleneagles to signal that his administration will no longer ignore the scientific evidence and act to cut emissions," Lord May said. "The G8 summit is an unprecedented moment in human history. Our leaders face a stark choice - act now to tackle climate change or let future generations face the price of their inaction. "Never before have we faced such a global threat. And if we do not begin effective action now it will be much harder to stop the runaway train as it continues to gather momentum," he added. The joint statement by the national science academies of the 11 countries does not mention Kyoto but it does refer repeatedly to the United Nations Framework on Climate Change that spawned the 1995 protocol to limit future greenhouse gas emissions, which the US has signed up to. Climate change is real, global warming is occurring and there is strong evidence that man-made greenhouse gases are implicated in a potentially catastrophic increase in global temperatures, the statement says. "It is likely that most of the warming in recent decades can be attributed to huma= n activities. This warming has already led to changes in the Earth's climate.= " Human activities are causing levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere to rise to a point not reached for at least 420,000 years. Meanwhile average global temperatures rose by 0.6C in the 20th century and are projected to increase by between 1.4C and 5.8C by 2100. "The scientific understanding of climate change is now sufficiently clear t= o justify nations taking prompt action. It is vital that all nations identify cost-effective steps that they can take now to contribute to substantial an= d long-term reduction in net global greenhouse gas emissions," the statement says. In a veiled reference to President Bush's reluctance to accept climate change by claiming that the science is unclear, the academies emphasise tha= t action is needed now to reduce the build-up of greenhouse gases. "A lack of full scientific certainty about some aspects of climate change i= s not a reason for delaying an immediate response that will, at a reasonable cost, prevent dangerous anthropogenic [man-made] interference with the climate system," the statement says. "We urge all nations... to take prompt action to reduce the causes of climate change, adapt to its impacts and ensure that the issue is included in all relevant national and international strategies." The national academies warn that even if greenhouse gas emissions can be stabilised at existing levels, the climate would continue to change as it slowly responds to the extra carbon dioxide added to the atmosphere. "Further changes in climate are therefore unavoidable. Nations must prepare for them," the statement says. CO2 on the increase 1958: A US scientist, Charles Keeling, begins measuring the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide (CO2 ) on an extinct volcano in Hawaii. It stands at 315 parts per million (ppm). 1968: The US spacecraft 'Apollo 8' takes the first pictures of Earth from a distance, beautiful but fragile - which help start modern environmentalism. The C02 level has reached 323ppm. 1972: The UN Conference on the Human Environment in Stockholm - the moment when the world first recognises environmental threats to the Earth as a whole. CO2 now at 327ppm. 1988: The world wakes up to the danger of climate change, with an outspoken warning from scientists, and a speech by Margaret Thatcher. CO2 level stand= s at 351ppm. 1992: The Earth Summit at Rio de Janeiro sees more than 100 countries sign the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, the first global warming treaty. CO2 now at 356ppm. 1995: The Kyoto protocol to the UN's climate treaty is signed in Japan, binding countries, including the US, to make cuts in their CO2 emissions. The CO2 level has now reached 360ppm. 2000: Obvious that the 1990s were the hottest decade in the global temperature record, with 1998 the hottest year in the northern hemisphere for 1,000 years. CO2 is 369ppm. 2001: George Bush withdraws the US, the world's biggest CO2 emitter, from Kyoto, alleging it will damage America's economy - jeopardising the whole process. CO2 level now at 371ppm. 2003: First two weeks of August are the hottest period ever recorded in western Europe: 35,000 people die. New record high temperature for Britain. CO2 now at 375ppm. 2004: After much dithering, Russia ratifies Kyoto, enabling the protocol to enter into force despite the desertion of the United States. But that doesn't stop the CO2 level rising to 377ppm.=20 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:06:45 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kerri Sonnenberg Subject: Reading for 26 (in Chicago) (this Friday) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed _________THE DISCRETE SERIES @ 3030__________ ::::::::A reading to celebrate the journal 26::::::: Friday, June 10 9PM / 3030 W. Cortland / $5 suggested donation / BYOB 26 editor Elizabeth Robinson guest-hosts a night of poetry by past and current contributors: Brian Strang, Suzanne Dyckman, Karl Gartung, Stacy Szymaszek, Roberto Harrison, Jesse Seldess, Kerri Sonnenberg 26 magazine is a journal of poetry and poetics published in conjunction with St. Mary's College in Moraga, California edited by Avery E.D. Burns, Rusty Morrison, Joseph Noble, Elizabeth Robinson and Brian Strang. Published annually, it features poetry, essays, translations and reviews. http://www.26magazine.com/ Latest issue available at http://www.spdbooks.org/Details.asp?BookID=1889098078 3030 is a former Pentecostal church located at 3030 W. Cortland Ave., one block south of Armitage between Humboldt Blvd. and Kedzie. Parking is easiest on Armitage. The Discrete Series presents an event of poetry/music/performance/something on the second Friday of each month. For more information about this or upcoming events, email kerri@lavamatic.com , or call the space at 773-862-3616. http://www.lavamatic.com/discrete Coming up... :: *Extra June event* Monday, June 27: Kristin Prevallet & Kimberly Lyons :: The series is on vacation for the month of July :: August 12: Rick Snyder & Chuck Stebelton ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:33:09 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: William Slaughter Subject: Notice: Mudlark MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit New and On View: Mudlark No. 28 (2005) Use Cases by Brian Clements Brian Clements is the author of two print books, Flesh and Wood and Essays Against Ruin, and two online collections, Ions and Burn Whatever Will Burn: A Book of Common Rituals. He edits the small press Firewheel Editions and its Sentence: A Journal of Prose Poetics, and he coordinates the new MFA in Professional Writing at Western Connecticut State University. Spread the word. Far and wide, William Slaughter MUDLARK An Electronic Journal of Poetry & Poetics Never in and never out of print... E-mail: mudlark@unf.edu URL: http://www.unf.edu/mudlark ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:05:09 +0100 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "david.bircumshaw" Subject: Re: Australian Literary Resources MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (I've had to leave the italics out but this is what I'm working on au moment) Monsieur le Directeur I demand I desist from your service today. What is its name je ne connais pas but let it become Alphinor. There is a lighthouse that says that in my head. Rocks to your monthly bills, your fuckface threats of final notice, dusk. I have accompted my inventories with the snub patience of chalk. Item: 2 tusks d'ivoire (& guns for Makonnen). Item: 5 fingers of nibs, snotted with dried ink. Item: a lace sheet on a Belgian postcard, lightly penned with blood. Item: a fusillade of vowels. Item: seven volumes, unbound, of left luggage, verbs. I leave for Suez tomorrow. By Alphinor, in a black hull. Item: a street dog's cough. There is something bad sailing in my blood, no illumination lights in nursing eyes. Tell me the time (Item) I must be shouldered on board. All the Best Dave Note: this poem is based on the last letter of Arthur Rimbaud, dictated to his sister on the eve of his death. In it the poet refers to 'Aphinar', which may be a ship, or a place or the Arabic for lighthouse: al fanar. I have changed the word slightly. The letter is addressed to the 'Director' of the hospital in which the poet spent his final illness, morphine soaked as the cancer spread. Rimbaud's letter is as follows: Item 1 tusk only Item 2 tusks Item 3 tusks Item 4 tusks Item 2 tusks M. le Directeur I should like to ask whether I have left anything on your account. I wish to change from this service today. I don't even know its name, but whatever it is, let it be the Aphinar line. All those services are there all over the place and I, crippled and unhappy, can find nothing - any dog in the street could tell you that. Please therefore send me the tariff of services from Aphinar to Suez. I am completely paralysed, and so wish to embark in good time. Tell me at what time I must be carried on board. David Bircumshaw Spectare's Web, A Chide's Alphabet & Painting Without Numbers http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:29:42 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Katie Degentesh Subject: I am away from this address. This is an automated response. Due to the overwhelming amount of spam I have received here, I no longer check this address regularly. Please write me at katiedeg at gmail dot com instead. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:38:00 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: anomalous vlf MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed anomalous vlf http://www.asondheim.org/antelopevlf.jpg http://www.asondheim.org/antelope4.mp3 recorded Antelope Island, Great Salt Lake, Utah, 7 p.m. notes: 1. at the beginning, the sound of the minidisk player is evident, in spite of the fact no microphone is used. 2. my calling 'Azure' is distinctly audible, again in spite of the fact no microphone is used. this calls for further investigation; somehow the apparatus was picking up my voice, in spite of the fact it was tuned for vlf only. 3. note at the beginning _i forgot to turn the radio itself on,_ and therefore there was increased sensitivity with the AVC in the recorder. this might have something to do with it. 4. even through the modification to the vlf sound itself (through modified chorus with four voices and high feedback), the sound of footprints is audible at the beginning - in spite of the fact that the _AVC is desensitized at this point._ i can only conclude that the conductivity of the ground (the unit goes to earth of course) is transformed by pressure waves which travel outwards from walking. 5. on the other hand, there are moments _when footprints are heard and no walking occurs._ could this be another phenomenon altogether? 6. one may hear for oneself at http://www.asondheim.org/azurevlf.mp3 . this is of course only a very small segment of a number of recordings at this and other Antelope Island sites. 7. one may speculate on the presence of _ghosts_ or _animals_ on one hand (there were, of course, antelope, as well as bison, rabbits, jackrabbits, etc. in the vicinity - see http://www.asondheim.org/antelopebison.jpg ) - and, on the other, something in the nature of the salted air (the lake is extremely saline and the shore is not far off) that creates the effect. 8. be that as it may, the recording on the island was the clearest and densest to date, which is to be expected, given the unique nature of the terrain. 9. 'we await further results with eager anticipation.' ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:02:48 -0700 Reply-To: jspahr@mills.edu Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Juliana Spahr Subject: [Fwd: Please Forward to Poetics List] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit from walter lew... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Please Forward to Poetics List Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:01:16 -0700 From: Walter K. Lew To: Juliana Spahr , Deborah Meadows UNE 10, 2005 POETRY, PEDAGOGY, and ALTERNATIVE INTERNATIONALISMS: A Conference, Reading, and Film Screenings At the UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, LOS ANGELES Conference website: <_http://www.international.ucla.edu/cira/Poetics_Pedagogy.asp_> 9:00 am-5:30 pm: Panels and readings in 306 Royce Hall 7:45 pm-10:30 pm: Film Screenings in 314 Royce Hall Free and open to the public. Parking available for $7 at the kiosks for Parking Structures 3, 4, and 5. To download the conference flier (PDF), which has the schedule, biographical/bibliographical notes on the participants, and other related links, please go to <_http://www.international.ucla.edu/cira/Poetics_Pedagogy.asp_> and click on "Click here for Flier." For out-of-town visitors, the Claremont Hotel <_www.claremonthotel.net/_> is only two blocks from UCLA and offers nice, very reasonably priced rooms. For further information, contact: Walter K. Lew, event organizer <_Lew@humnet.ucla.edu_>. == Friday, June 10th at UCLA == I. PANELS & READING (306 Royce Hall) 9:00-9:30 Opening Remarks Walter K. Lew, English Dept., Mills College 9:30-10:45 Translation's Role in East Asian Colonialism and Cosmopolitanism “Heterolingual Love: Kim Ôk's International Affections” -- Ann Choi, Asian Languages & Cultures Dept., Rutgers University “Treacherous Translation: Debates on the 1938 Japanese Theatrical Version of the Korean Tale Ch’unhyang-jôn (The Tale of Spring Fragrance)” -- Serk-bae Suh, History Dept., UCLA Moderator: Koichi Haga, Asian Languages and Cultures, UCLA. 10:45-12:00 Anarchism and Poetry in East Asia During the 1930s “Advertising Tower: Anarchist Poetry at the Nexus of Commerce, Censorship, and Avant-Garde Art Movements in Prewar Japan” -- William O. Gardner, Modern Languages & Literatures Dept., Swarthmore College “Anarchism in East Asia in the Early 20th Century” -- Dongyoun Hwang, Asian Studies, Soka University, Aliso Viejo Moderator: Juliana Spahr, English Dept., Mills College, coeditor of Chain. 1:15-2:30 Other Internationalist Poetries of Resistance "Apocrypha & Avant-Garde: (Early) (South) American Strategies concerning 'Modernism'" -- Heriberto Yepez, Philosophy, Universidad Autónoma de Baja California, Tijuana "'Blame Me on History': The Drum Generation and South African Modernism(s)" -- David Buuck, History of Consciousness Dept., UC, Santa Cruz, editor of Tripwire Moderator: Ann Choi, Rutgers University. Break 2:45-4:00 Internationalisms and the Reform of "Creative Writing" in North America "T/heres: What Pacific Poetries Might Add to the Teaching of Creative Writing" -- Juliana Spahr, English Dept., Mills College "Neoliberalism, Collective Action, and the American MFA Industry" -- Mark Nowak, College of St. Catherine, Minneapolis, editor of Xcp: Cross Cultural Poetics “Towards Decolonizasian: Integrating Pedagogies, Editorial Practices, and Cultural Organizing North of the Border” -- Rita Wong, Emily Carr Institute of Art and Design, editorial board member, West Coast Line Moderator: Walter K. Lew, Mills College. 4:00-5:30 Readings of Poetry, Translations, Poetics Nowak, Choi, Gardner, Lew, Yepez, Buuck, Wong, Spahr. II. Films (314 Royce Hall) 7:45-10:30 Films about Poetry, Pedagogy, and Politics Introduced by Vinay Lal, Dept. of History, UCLA, who will also lead a discussion after the screenings. -- A Night of Prophecy, dir. Amar Kanwar (India, 2002). 77 min. <_http://infochangeindia.org/documentary14.jsp_> -- The Poet of Linge Homeland (Penyair Negeri Linge), dir. Aryo Danusiri (Indonesia, 2000). 25 min. < _http://www.harvardfilmarchive.org/calendars/02marapr/mead.htm#thepoet_> -- A Poet, Unconcealed Poetry (Puisi tak terkuburkan), dir. Garin Nugroho (Indonesia, 1999). Excerpt, 50 min. <_http://www.sensesofcinema.com/contents/01/17/poet.html_> Sponsored by UCLA's Comparative and Interdisciplinary Research on Asia, the UCLA International Institute, the UCLA Center for Japanese Studies, Chain, Palm Press, West Coast Line, and Xcp: Crosscultural Poetics. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:40:24 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: maxpaul@SFSU.EDU Subject: Please backchannel In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I need email and snail mail of the following people. Could they please backchannel? MC Rachel Loden Jerrold Shiroma Susan Firer ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:22:23 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Gabriel Gudding Subject: MANDORLA: New Writing from the Americas -- available online Comments: To: Kristin Dykstra Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We are pleased to announce that subscriptions to the crosscultural magazine /Mandorla: New Writing from the Americas / Nueva escritura de las Am=E9ricas/ are now available online for readers from the US and abroad. http://www.litline.org/Mandorla/default.html Our current issue features work by Eleni Sikelianos, Jay Wright, Vera Kutzinski, Roberto Gonz=E1lez Echevarr=EDa, Carlos Aguilera, Todd Ram=F3n Ochoa, Paul Vanouse, Julio Trujillo, Jacqueline Loss, Jos=E9 Kozer, Mark Weiss, Tamara Kamenszain, Gabriel Gudding, Paul Hoover, Javier Marim=F3n, Rosa Alcal=E1, Elizabeth Hatmaker, Reynaldo Jim=E9nez, Nathaniel Mackey, Jos=E9 Lezama Lima, Alfonso D'Aquino, Omar P=E9rez, Jaime Saenz, Forrest Gander, Thad Ziolkowski, Roberto Tejada, Magali Tercero, Reina Mar=EDa Rodr=EDguez, Nancy Gates Madsen, Gabriel Bernal Granados, Peter O'Leary, Ana Rosa Gonz=E1lez Matute, Antonio Jos=E9 Ponte, Mark Schafer, Curtis White, Soleida R=EDos, Jorge Guitart, Kass Fleisher, Caroline Koebel, Joel Bettridge, Susan Briante, Arnaldo Valero, Henrry Lezama, Nick Lawrence, Pedro Marqu=E9s de Armas, Rito Aroche, & Caridad Atencio. _____________ Gabriel Gudding Department of English Illinois State University Normal, IL 61790 office 309.438.5284 gmguddi@ilstu.edu =20 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:35:21 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Nicholas Ruiz Subject: Kritikos, V.II June 2005 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Kritikos, V.II June 2005: An interview with Jason Read (author of The Micro-Politics of Capital)...(n.ruiz), audio Conceptions of Class, the State and the Supernatural in the Lands of Nod, Denmanrk and North America ...(j.taylor) Notes towards an anthropology of money...(k.hart) Nicholas Ruiz III GTA/Doctoral candidate Interdisciplinary Program in the Humanities Florida State University 205P Dodd Hall, CPO (#1560), Tallahassee, FL 32306 Email: nr03@fsu.edu Editor, Kritikos http://garnet.acns.fsu.edu/~nr03 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:38:11 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Murat Nemet-Nejat Subject: Re: The Arab in Me - Italian Derivatives of Arabic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 06/07/05 10:44:05 AM, furniture_press@GRAFFITI.NET writes: > Strange thing about Arab anscestry: I was watching an Arab film (honestly I > can't remember the title, but it had to do with this woman who was, OH! it's > called Bedouin Hacker... [SP?]) and there was a note (from the moderator who > was showing the film, at the University here (Towson) in which she said the > word for slippers, in Arabic, is "baboosh". Now, I grew up speaking a very > drawl-driven Italian dialect from Bari (Palo del Colle is the town my mother > is, so we speak "da Pal'" or "paloise" but not necessarily "Barez" and the word > we use for slippers is also "baboosh". Now, I knew we had Greek and Slavic > influences in my family (regional, the Slavs were just across the adriatic, I > think Albanian mostly 'cause they'd come over to work in Puglia) but Arabic? > This is a shocking and delightful surprise; I always knew I was %100 Italian > but what does that mean? Of course it's nationalisitic of me to pronouce a > purity of ethnicity - Italian - but all the surrounding influences are now just > coming out, just by the words in the language. Another example of > appropriation: my grendparents and some of my aunts and uncles moved to the USA for a > few years and they picked up some American words which they "Italianized". One > of my favorites was, and this is phonetic, "Bockouse". Now, the strange > etymology of the word (I believe only my immediate family, that it, anyone > derived from my Grandparents and their children and children's children plus > cousins and such, use the word): when my Grandparents moved to Brooklyn, NY they > lived in an apartment where there was no bathroom in the building, so they had > to use an outhouse, or "backhouse", and this eventually became "bockouse". I > still notice a lot of family intertwining Italian and English, especially > slang terms like "OK" and "Sure (Sho)". So, I'd like to say, just by the use of > "baboosh" and perhaps there are other words I'm not too familiar with, their > etymology at least, that I'm pretty sure we have family, perhaps distant, who > have Arab blood, which makes me a bit of the Arab, I don't know how much, > probably a tiny bit, but I do know that the evolution of the dialect is pretty > fast, I mean, within three generations the dialect will sound so different > from it's former that I'll make a bet that those living 100 years apart have a > difficult time understanding each other. I'm assuming with the on-set of the > industrial revolution, and Bari being a port city, a number of influences > have to have entered the culture, and I am finally understanding the > implications of this influence. Now I understand that dialects are different from the > mother tongue, but here's a great example of nonsense dialect in action! > > If I want to say "Let's go" in Italian we say "andiamo" but in the dialect > we say "shamanin da doe", again, phonetic, but that's not even close! > > Also, is there a rural French dialect that is almost completely different > than the mother tongue? I also notice, in films using a very hard rural French > dialect, a distinction in words that are similar to my dialect. Perhaps the > cross polination of cultures can be found in the languages, and this might > help me find out who exactly my anscestors could have been. Anyone care to share > examples, possibly point me in the direction of some scholarship on the > language problem? > > If anyone would like to share some language problems with me, especially in > talking with me about the dialect, if there is some possibility that I can > throw some phrases out at folks and perhaps they might notice some, at least > phonetic similarities, this would be a breakthrough. > > Does anyone have any insight into my case? > > Yours, > Christophe Casamassima > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net > Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for just > US$9.95 per year! > > > Powered by Outblaze > One crucial word in English with Arabic origins is "cypher," in the sense of zero, which in Arabic is "sif'r" (sifir). The reason is that Arabs invented the concept of zero, a giant step in thinking. I am sure there are many other words. Re-visiting Florence after a period of many years, I was struck to realize how Renaissance art is influenced by Islamic culture, particularly the Moorish architecture. The focus on the Classical Greek sources of The Renaissance tries to by by-pass the Islamic factor, itself influenced by Plato and Aristotle. Until the 17th century, the Islam and Christianity were ideological, even mortal enemies. The Ottoman had conquered Constantinople ("the ward of the Virgin Mary") in the 15th century and had come to the gates of Vienna in the 17th. The Mesquite Mosque in Cordoba -to me one of the greastest five or six buildings in the world- has a church built within it (its guts) by the Spanish king (Karlos) in a completely different style after the reconquering of the city.. The altars of the church and the mosque point to different directions. It is an incredible experience which made me feel I was in the middle of a science fiction punk novel. Murat ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:17:47 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Catherine Daly Subject: This Sunday, 6/12: Clover/Hofer/Schmitt reading/showing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please join us for a reading by poets JOSHUA CLOVER and JEN HOFER, with short films by LEE ANN SCHMITT. Bios and links below. Date and Time: Sunday, June 12; 6 p.m. Location: Kristi Engel Gallery, 453 S. Spring St., Suite 741 (Spring Arts Tower, 7th Floor); (213)-629-2358 Suggested Donation: $4 For further information, contact Franklin Bruno at bruno@humnet.ucla.edu ~~ Joshua Clover=92s books are Madonna anno domini (Louisiana State), The Matrix (British Film Institute), and the forthcoming The Totality for Kids (University of California). His critical and cultural writing appears widely, from the Village Voice to the booklet accompanying a recent DVD issue of Godard=92s Band of Outsiders. He lives in Berkeley, and is Associate Professor of Poetry and Poetics at the University of California, Davis. You can read =93The Map Room=94 at: http://www.poemhunter.com/p/m/poem.asp?poet=3D13015&poem=3D176389 You can download the chapbook Their Ambiguity by following a link at: http://sugarhigh.abstractdynamics.org/ Jen Hofer is the author of Slide Rule (subpress) and Lawless (Seeing Eye). She is the editor and translator of Sin peurtas visibles: An Anthology of Contemporary Poetry by Mexican Women; her translations of contemporary Mexican poetry are also featured in a recent issue of the journal Aufgabe. She lives in Los Angeles, where she teaches in The Bridge Program, a free humanities program for low-income adults, works as a court interpreter, and is a founding member of the City of Angels Ladies=92 Bicycle Association, a.k.a. The Whirly Girls. You can hear part of a recent reading at: http://www.lavamatic.com/discrete/pastevents/hofer.htm# You can read her translations of Laura Sol=F3rzano here: http://www.scc.rutgers.edu/however/v1_7_200/current/translation/hofer.sh tm Lee Ann Schmitt is a writer and director who works in both film and performance, making work that believes that the everyday moments of life can transcend and inspire. Her films include The Wash (2005), Nightingale (2002, Rotterdam Film Festival), and Las Vegas (2001). She lives in Los Angeles, in someone's backyard, trying to keep her few plants alive. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:46:10 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Nate Dorward Subject: Re: New From Cuneiform Press MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kyle--not sure if you're in Buffalo at the moment but anyway, just a = note to say Gig 18 is off to you... all best --N Nate Dorward 109 Hounslow Ave, Willowdale, ON, M2N 2B1, Canada ndorward@ndorward.com // web: www.ndorward.com For info on recent publications: www.ndorward.com/poetry/ For the vast archive (updated monthly!) of music reviews: = www.ndorward.com/music/ & yes, there's a blog: www.ndorward.com/blog/ JUST OUT: The Gig 18: Kelvin Corcoran, Jean Day, Andrew Levy, = a.rawlings, Scott Thurston, Ralph Hawkins, Michael Boughn, David Ball, = Douglas Manson, Peter Larkin, Joan Retallack; Peter Middleton on Robert = Creeley; the usual pile of reviews.... ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:38:26 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinksy Subject: Re: The Arab in Me - Italian Derivatives of Arabic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hey rememer that old rag some of our grandmas wore around their heads? that oddly enough was called -- and as with chris, i'm doin this phonetically - a BABOOSHKA - ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 18:26:17 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Pierre Joris Subject: Re: The Arab in Me - Italian Derivatives of Arabic In-Reply-To: <20050608.170410.-72277.2.skyplums@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well, that old rag is a diminutive of the Russian "baba" i.e. =20 grandmother. while baboosh, the thing worn at the other extreme of the body, =20 though taken up by Arabic is most likely of Farsi origin. (though I often thought of it as a Turkish work -- Murat?) Pierre On Jun 8, 2005, at 4:38 PM, Steve Dalachinksy wrote: > hey rememer that old rag some of our grandmas wore around =20 > their > heads? > > that oddly enough was called -- and as with chris, i'm doin =20 > this > phonetically - > > > a BABOOSHKA - > ___________________________________________________________ The poet: always in partibus infidelium =97 Paul Celan ___________________________________________________________ Pierre Joris 244 Elm Street Albany NY 12202 h: 518 426 0433 c: 518 225 7123 o: 518 442 40 85 email: joris@albany.edu http://www.albany.edu/~joris/ blog:http://pjoris.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 18:39:00 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Murat Nemet-Nejat Subject: Re: The Arab in Me - Italian Derivatives of Arabic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, "baboosh" is not Turkish, so far as I know. My parents were born and used to live in Iran (Meshed) close to the Russian=20 border. In fact my mother spent time in Tiflis (Georgia). I remember, talkin= g=20 Persian they used Russian versions of three words, "aghoshke" (window),=20 "parahut" (boat) and "doroshke" (carriage, phaeton). When I used these words= talking=20 to Iranians from Teheran (in my very limited persian), they did not understa= nd=20 me or smiled knowing I was talking a Meshed lingo.=20 Murat In a message dated 06/08/05 6:27:40 PM, joris@ALBANY.EDU writes: > well, that old rag is a diminutive of the Russian "baba" i.e.=A0 > grandmother. >=20 > while baboosh, the thing worn at the other extreme of the body,=A0 > though taken up by Arabic is most likely of Farsi origin. >=20 > (though I often thought of it as a Turkish work -- Murat?) >=20 > Pierre >=20 > On Jun 8, 2005, at 4:38 PM, Steve Dalachinksy wrote: >=20 > > hey=A0 rememer that old=A0 rag=A0=A0 some of=A0 our=A0 grandmas wore=A0=20= around=A0=A0 > > their > > heads? > > > > that=A0 oddly=A0 enough=A0 was called=A0 --=A0 and as with=A0 chris,=A0=20= i'm doin=A0 > > this > > phonetically - >=20 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:18:09 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jim Andrews Subject: PRIME of vispo.com wins peace building prize MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Institute of International Education gave Dan Bar-On (an Israeli) and Sami Adwan (a Palestinian) the inaugural Goldberg IIE prize. This prize is for efforts in trying to build peace in the Middle East. A press release from the American embassy in Tel Aviv about it is at http://vispo.com/PRIME/goldbergprize.htm The particular project Dan and Sami were awarded for is called "Learning Each Other's Historical Narrative". Actually it's quite an interesting project you might want to check out. As Sami and Dan say of it: "This project of the Peace Research Institute in the Middle East (PRIME) focuses on teachers and schools as the critical force over the long term for changing deeply entrenched and increasingly polarized attitudes on both sides of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. The goal of the project is to "disarm" the teaching of Middle East history in Israeli and Palestinian classrooms." http://vispo.com/PRIME/leohn.htm I'm proud to host and work on Dan and Sami's site PRIME (Peace Research Institute in the Middle East) at http://vispo.com/PRIME with my friend Sid Tafler. ja http://vispo.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 19:17:23 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Charles Bernstein Subject: Notable Books Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" An annotated and expanded version of the books lists I have posted here is now available at: http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/bernstein/blog/notable-2005.html In answer to the thoughtful questions of Simon DeDeo -- this particular list is only of recent full-length poetry/poetics books. I will soon turn to my on-line syllabi, which have very different orientation. Charles Bernstein ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:14:01 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Gitin Subject: David Gitin's East Coast readings in celebration of new book, PASSING THROUGH[Scanned] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 I'll be in NYC, Boston, and Portland (Maine) reading from my first book = in 15 years, PASSING THROUGH, published by Linehan Press.=20 =20 * 6/21/05 (Tue) 6 PM - Reading for The Bowery Poetry Club (308 Bowery, New = York City) =20 6/21/05 (Tue) 6 PM -- Reading for The Bowery Poetry Club = (308 Bowery, New York City) * 6/26/05 (Sun) 3 PM -- Reading for The College Club of Boston = (44 Commonwealth Ave., Boston, = Mass.) =20 =20 =20 =20 * 6/27/05 (Mon) -- Reading at the Center for Cultural Exchange = (1 Longfellow Square, = Portland, Maine) =20 =20 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:04:45 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mary Jo Malo Subject: Re: The Arab in Me - Italian Derivatives of Arabic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve, When I spent some time as a child in a German-Polish neighborhood in Milwaukee, we were told it was a Polish word for a scarf the old women wore. Apparently, it's Russian and Ukrainian. _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babushka_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babushka) Mary ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:00:54 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Halvard Johnson Subject: Help! plus a little poem by Apollinaire Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lynda and I are just about to hit the road for Mexico, and our cat-care deal fell through just a day or so ago. Now, we're madly scrambling to find some folks who might extend their hospitality to our cat Chuckie for a couple months (the trip by car is much too long, and the house we'll be staying in doesn't welcome cats). We'd love to hear from anyone either in the NYC/New Jersey area or not too far from a NYC to San Antonio/Laredo/Eagle Pass sort of trajectory who'd be so kind as to take him in. He's getting on now (who isn't?)--about 15 or so--but is in good health and is an amiable and witty companion who's lived well with both other cats and with dogs. We'd be glad to pay something for a bit of TLC, and Lynda's offering both an original monoprint and a copy of her new book The Body Parts Shop. I could throw in a couple books also. (Not to mention food, cat litter, etc.) Here's the old guy himself. Click and then scroll down one screen. http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard/halandlynda.html If you can't do it yourself, and have neighbors you'd recommend who might, please ask them and/or make us some suggestions. Oh, hell, forget the near trajectory. We'll go out of our way for this guy. The Cat In my house I want: A reasonable woman, A cat passing among the books, And friends in every season, Whom I cannot live without. --Guillaume Apollinaire Hal Halvard Johnson halvard@earthlink.net halvard@gmail.com website: http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard blog: http://entropyandme.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 19:04:43 -0700 Reply-To: ishaq1823@telus.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: Cc boom yah: with verse (for tbone in his memory) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fill the spoon fluid and ccs jib diluted in alchemick criz to flow with with you and down time tempo tracks // run it along the scales by the first bar in the front of an elbow. On the couch the trax pant woofers shake and moan my tbone snaps side stripes hard hubs flagged in as his baby lounges beside him stripped to the ankles his head on the bones lap… Watch him stop and change his socks next to the trash box at micky’s. Suit up and lace up ya boots and count the loads in the clip. The liquid jake is juice in the bottles, and the nation of millions go boom Boyah move the crew Ayo let's go What you do? What you do? Who you? Hookin up as an anarchist crew Backpacks/gasses Gear Hoodies/aerosol bombs and maskies Cee You may take Iraq Watching your blindside There will be payback for this genocide Damage the spot/slammin cocktails into neubautens Final call to cry Bombs tagged all round the surface 175, 000, 000 million speak the language And practice with confidence Disrupting battles And spittin sessions on street corners Bustin labels Hassle the hustle Handing out rap records to the needy I’ll free rolas Burning mp3’s Crashing the lyrical greedy Downlow the download. Steppin heavy to knock need bullies Here’s a line Come beg me for more Kidnapping MC$ and force feeding them tweaters with Dee Dee and Burroughs We roll with Wildboys on a roads to motivation Dizzy the set with sudden destruction Aural invasion Roam the wasteland of U.I. MCs All doled up/spittin cvs Out to slangers and pizza joints Here’s my point Crash muthafuccah/crash Thrash your ego with spits over mento Music step deep in the anarchy hepster poetry Bump a beatnik for the North American Commie What come to party? Do we still got an ecomony? Check the peoples Amin They giving your wax the axe it disserves Bass How far can you throw Grenades of tough learning Exploding the market crash Check my flow sheet In this treaty of pure unpredictability Fuck the passive I’m outy All wi doin is attackin Pato Bantu and his opinion Exploding the unconscious What come against us The bastard seeds of Mulroney Campbell and Reagan Push Bush in the cruise Are you ready? He’ll crack you Outdo the union Spitting missiles in that discussion Ducking in every direction On our island Who gon crash the gentrification There’s an overground meaning Born to X-pand this generation ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Be a friend to the oppressed and an enemy to the oppressor" \ --Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib (as)\ \ "This mathematical rhythmatical mechanism enhances my wisdom\ of Islam, keeps me calm from doing you harm, when I attack, it's Vietnam"\ --HellRazah\ \ "It's not too good to stay in a white man's country too long"\ --Mutabartuka\ \ "As for we who have decided to break the back of colonialism, \ our historic mission is to sanction all revolts, all desperate \ actions, all those abortive attempts drowned in rivers of blood."\ - Frantz Fanon\ \ "Everyday is Ashura and every land is Kerbala"\ -Imam Ja'far Sadiq\ \ http://scratchcue.blogspot.com/ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html \ http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_comments/766_0_15_0_C/ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/ \ "For African people on the continent the image of Afrikans in America is that of a bunch of heavily armed Black men who only stop fighting each other long enough to put a dollar in Chocolate Thunda's thong at tha strip club."\ --min paul scott --"How MTV Underdeveloped Africa: Pistols, Pimps and Pan Africanism"\ \ M.E.D.I.A.: (MisEducation Destroying Intelligent Afrikans)\ \ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THCO2/ \ } ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:59:20 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinksy Subject: Re: The Arab in Me - Italian Derivatives of Arabic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit baba like oni baba in japanese baba means grandmother more or less and then of course there's good ole baba ganoush ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:23:50 -0400 Reply-To: richard.j.newman@verizon.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Richard Jeffrey Newman Subject: Re: The Arab in Me - Italian Derivatives of Arabic In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Pierre wrote: >>while baboosh, the thing worn at the other extreme of the body, though taken up by Arabic is most likely of Farsi origin.<< FYI: My wife and in-laws, who are from Iran, do not know of any Persian word "baboosh" and it is not in the Persian-English dictionary we have in the house. My wife thinks it signifies part of a traditional costume, and my father-in-law suggests that it comes from a dialect other than Persian. Richard ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:24:36 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: alexander saliby Subject: Re: The Arab in Me - Italian Derivatives of Arabic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Women of St. Michael's The old women of St. Michael's walk arm in arm in pairs for safety after descending stairs of the city bus onto ice-crusted winter sidewalks They let go each other's arms=20 without much fuss or fanfare just long enough to snug loose ends=20 of their babushkas Again they join arms and brace against the winds that slap their ears and bring ice sparkles=20 to their eyes from tears They trudge off through the slush hurrying to the church basement and to the warmth of St. Michael's kitchen babushkas tightly on their heads as if they were home again in Bratislava or Minsk or Petrovia-Pauak ****************************** But as a child, I spelled it babbooshka Alex=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mary Jo Malo=20 To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 5:04 PM Subject: Re: The Arab in Me - Italian Derivatives of Arabic Steve, When I spent some time as a child in a German-Polish neighborhood in Milwaukee, we were told it was a Polish word for a scarf the old women = wore. Apparently, it's Russian and Ukrainian. _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babushka_ = (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babushka) Mary ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 19:42:59 +0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Eric Elshtain Subject: New Beard of Bees Chapbook MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Beard of Bees Press is pleased to announce its latest chapbook, _Her Social Frame_, which consists of renga composed by Gnoetry 0.2 and Eric Elshtain using the statistical analysis of Edith Wharton's _Custom of the Country_. Read what Wharton would have done with syllabics. Best, Eric Elshtain Editor Beard of Bees Press http://www.beardofbees.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:17:56 +0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Eric Elshtain Subject: Gnoetry Demonstration MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For those of you in the Chicago-land area: Sunday 12 June 7pm at Myopic Books in Wicker Park, Jon Trowbridge and Eric Elshtain will demonstrate and discuss Gnoetry 0.2, their poetry-generating computer program. Gnoetry does not merely create electronic cut-ups, nor does it merely re-arrange random words - it composes original poetry in verse using the statistical properties of (mostly) prose texts. http://www.myopicbookstore.com/poetry/poetry.html http://www.beardofbees.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:19:45 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joe Brennan Subject: Poll Finds Dim President Responsible For Bloody Oil Heist Comments: To: corp-focus@lists.essential.org, WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Click here: The Assassinated Press Poll Finds Dim President Held Responsible For Bloody Protracted Iraq Oil Heist: 52% Say U.S. Has Not Become Safer Since Dick Cheney And His Cronies Attempted To Steal Iraq's Oil, Natural Gas, Water Since Iraq Didn't Have A Goddamn Thing To Do With 9/11 & Had No WMD So Wasn't A Fuckin' Security Threat In The Goddamn First Place: So Why In The Fuck Do Pollsters Keep Asking That Question?: Because They Are Simple-Minded Fucks? Orwellian Stooges Of The Corporate Press? Both!: A Less Brutal, Less Imperialistic Foreign Policy "Out Of The Question," Snarls Paul 'Liver Nuts' Wolfowitz By DOWNA SHITBANK & CLAUGYIA DRANE Bush Reads Roger Noriega's Stool, Predicts More Trouble For Cuba Soon: OAS Session Is Focused On U.S. Efforts To Murder Chavez And Increase Poverty In Venezuela: OAS Tells Bush To Take His Stink Elsewhere By SCHMECKEL FILTCHER & GLOME KEISTEN Saddam Faces Trial for Range of Crimes He Committed As U.S. Stooge: Friend And Business Partner Rumsfeld To Testify On Behalf Of Hussein: Al-Qaeda Steals 200 Classic Cars From Saudi Prince; Uses Them In Suicide Bomb Attacks: American Values Tested As Expensive One of A Kind Cars Become Instruments Of Islamic Road Rage: Bush Bitter About Attacks On "The Machine That Defeated Ozone." Rumsfeld Voted "Sexiest Infidel" By Iraqi Interim Government By CHAG GAWOOF ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:44:28 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: Thoughts on war. Not War. Film in war. Flimsy wars. Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 No one likes a kidder (margeaux) or a kidman (nicole) but=20 its been a dear challenge for me to take anyone seriously and be taken seriously by anybone. It really is just part=20 of the experiment (see Boy, Wolf, Aesop). It's carried over to what I believe is my poetics but do I want to call it poetics? or poor ethics? In reality,=20 I've not ever succumbed to a feeling of alienation from my peers (my work transcends time and space and the spirit of intersession). Whatever that means, Greek.=20 So please be kind, rewind, sit back, and tell me your story. Or lie to me. Christophe Casamassima --=20 _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for just= US$9.95 per year! Powered by Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:52:09 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: [Copwatch] Protest the VPD every Saturday (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (This was sent to me via the VPD Public Complaints website) From: Terri I like to tell you there will be a protest held this Saturday at the SE corner of Main & Cordova at High Noon to ask Vancouver Police Department Chief Constable Jamie Graham to resign. Also a request for British Columbia Solicitor General Coleman to audit the Vancouver Police Department, as well as to bring reform to the Police Act of British Columbia, the Vancouver Police Department and the attitude of police in the province of British Columbia. A prayer will be said for all the Lost Souls of the DTES, living and dead, who have suffred at the hands of the Vancouver Police Department. I will not be requesting anyone come as a ghost, yet I will be dressed in a sheet. Please, feel free to come as ghost yourself. I have never organized a protest before and have little funds, but feel so strongly about the VPD that I cannot just sit back and pray he leaves office, I want to actively push him out. Thank You, Terri _______________________________________________ Copwatch mailing list Copwatch@lists.resist.ca http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_comments/766_0_15_0_C/ \ ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Be a friend to the oppressed and an enemy to the oppressor" \ --Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib (as)\ \ "This mathematical rhythmatical mechanism enhances my wisdom\ of Islam, keeps me calm from doing you harm, when I attack, it's Vietnam"\ --HellRazah\ \ "It's not too good to stay in a white man's country too long"\ --Mutabartuka\ \ "As for we who have decided to break the back of colonialism, \ our historic mission is to sanction all revolts, all desperate \ actions, all those abortive attempts drowned in rivers of blood."\ - Frantz Fanon\ \ "Everyday is Ashura and every land is Kerbala"\ -Imam Ja'far Sadiq\ \ http://scratchcue.blogspot.com/ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html \ http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_comments/766_0_15_0_C/ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/ \ "For African people on the continent the image of Afrikans in America is that of a bunch of heavily armed Black men who only stop fighting each other long enough to put a dollar in Chocolate Thunda's thong at tha strip club."\ --min paul scott --"How MTV Underdeveloped Africa: Pistols, Pimps and Pan Africanism"\ \ M.E.D.I.A.: (MisEducation Destroying Intelligent Afrikans)\ \ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THCO2/ \ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:20:25 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Catherine Daly Subject: PEN Center USA Announces 2006 Emerging Voices Rosenthal Fellowships MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For Immediate Release =20 Contact: Eitan Kadosh, Program Director (213) 365-8500 eitan@penusa.org =20 =20 PEN CENTER USA ANNOUNCES EMERGING VOICES ROSENTHAL FELLOWSHIPS =20 Los Angeles (August 1, 2004) =8B PEN Center USA announces six to ten Rosenthal Fellowships will be available to emerging writers from minority, immigrant and underserved communities for the 2006 cycle of Emerging Voices, a program of literary mentorship. Participating writers will receive a one-time stipend of $1,000. The stipends are made possible by the Richard and Hinda Rosenthal Foundation, which supports outstanding work from not-yet-established writers and artists. Designed to serve writers working on a specific project who are ready to be published, Emerging Voices is an intensive, eight-month program based in Los Angeles that includes a one-on-one mentoring relationship with an established writer, master classes and private workshops with a prominent author and poet, classes in the Writers=B9 Program at UCLA Extension, informal visits with writers and literary professionals and attending literary readings. The current Emerging Voices brochure and application are available online at http://www.penusa.org, by emailing ev@penusa.org or by sending a self-addressed stamped envelope to Emerging Voices, PEN USA, 672 S. Lafayette Park Pl., #42, Los Angeles, CA 90057. The deadline for applications is September 9, 2005, and the program will begin in January. For more information, call PEN at (213) 365-8500. There is no better measure of the program=B9s quality and effectiveness than the remarkable success of many of its past participants. Former Emerging Voices Rosenthal Fellows have written books for Holt, MacAdam/Cage and Simon & Schuster, one of which was a Los Angeles Times and national bestseller; received fellowships from the Sundance Institute and the Virginia Center for the Creative Arts; received grants and awards, such as the Durfee Artist Award, a Brody Arts grant and the Nimrod/Katherine Anne Porter Prize for fiction; and have had works published in numerous publications. Mentors and instructors have included Sherman Alexie, Yusef Komunyakaa, Mona Simpson, Carolyn See, Bernard Cooper, Susan Taylor Chehak, Greg Sarris, Kenneth Starrm Chris Abani, Harryette Mullen, Karen Yamashita, Maria Amparo Escandon, Janet Fitch, Jervey Tervalon and Judith Freeman. PEN Center USA, founded in 1943, is part of an international organization of professional writers created in 1921 to defend freedom of expression and foster a vital literary community worldwide. With more than 1,200 members, PEN USA is the third largest of 130 international PEN centers and one of two centers in the United States.=20 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~-->=20 Has someone you know been affected by illness or disease? Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts! http://us.click.yahoo.com/rkgkPB/UOnJAA/Zx0JAA/qx3olB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~->=20 =20 Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ =20 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 16:41:31 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: eleni Stecopoulos Subject: Kuszai & Stecopoulos @ Moe's 6/13 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Joel Kuszai Eleni Stecopoulos Monday, June 13, 2005 7:30 pm @Moe's Books 2467 Telegraph Ave. Berkeley Admission is free. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:35:24 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Rothenberg Subject: thurston moore MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If anyone has e-mail info or address for Thurston Moore please = backchannel. Thanks. Michael Michael Rothenberg walterblue@bigbridge.org Big Bridge www.bigbridge.org ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:58:45 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Of Speech As of Number MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Of Speech As of Number Number names in various languages (for example Japanese) alter in relation to their quantified; '3 books' and '3 people' may have different words for '3' altogether. In English, the number words are unary, however. However, and this relates to issues of analog/digital (which I continue of course to pursue), there are three 'speakings' of number, dependent on use: 1. 2118 = "two thousand, one hundred and eighteen" - indicative of _quantity._ For example: "There are two thousand, one hundred and eighteen bison on the island." Note the comma and connective may be omitted: "There are two thousand one hundred eighteen bison on the island." Think of this as the _indexical._ 2. 2118 - "twenty-one eighteen" - indicative of date (within a serial / linear construct). This is number as _sign._ For example: "In the year twenty-one eighteen, all large mammals, except for humans, will either be extinct or corralled." Note "twenty-one eighteen" is almost never written out as such; the usual expression would be "In the year 2118, all large mammals, except for humans, will either be extinct or corralled." Think of this as the _symbolic._ 3. 2118 - "two one one eight" - indicative of _identification_ For example: "I live at two one one eight Western Boulevard, near the Monument of Extinctions." Phone numbers and other identifications (credit card, social security) are usually spoken in this fashion. Think of this as the _ikonic._ In ikonic identification, quantity and seriality are irrelevant. The number is neither cardinal nor ordinal. In symbolic seriality, identification is based on quantity, only in the sense that quantity defines positionality; this is ordinal, not cardinal. In indexical quantity, identification and seriality are weakened; the quantity of bison (for the most part alone) is relevant. The number is cardinal. I am stretching Peirce's notion of signs here. Nevertheless, there is some hint of value on the horizon. Number trifurcates in the speaking; the specificity of 3 portends the specificity of the discrete, for example. What happens with decimals? Almost always, they are indicative of quantity, although one can imagine an identification number of the form, for example, "21.2.1.96" - which would be read "twenty-one point two point one point ninety-six." If the form is standard, one might eliminate the "point" as in "twenty-one two one ninety-six." If the numbers are more than two or three digits, for example "2134.9121.1." - the most likely speaking would be "two one three four point nine one two one point one." Telephone numbers of the form "(718)555-1235" are of this type, with the punctuation omitted: "seven one eight [pause] five five five [pause] one two three five." There are exceptions to all of these; I am concerned, however, with a general trend, at least in one language. _ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 19:03:51 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Catherine Daly Subject: Re: thurston moore In-Reply-To: <006d01c56d5c$ad4bec20$dc63ea04@MICHAEL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit and to me, too @ cadaly@pacbell.net Catherine Daly -----Original Message----- From: UB Poetics discussion group [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael Rothenberg Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 6:35 PM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: thurston moore If anyone has e-mail info or address for Thurston Moore please backchannel. Thanks. Michael Michael Rothenberg walterblue@bigbridge.org Big Bridge www.bigbridge.org ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 03:23:30 +0100 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Peter Cudmore Subject: Re: Of Speech As of Number In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Funnily enough, at an earlier stage of my thesis, I took to numbering the chapters by giving them number-names selected from Borges' story 'Funes the Memorious' (it was a tip of the hat towards Foucault's Order of Things). My advisers found it easy enough to track down Luis Melian Lanifur, but with Meat Blanket & The Railroad I ran into an unexpected problem: if my advisers were consulting a different translation, they'd be seeing 'flesh covering' and 'the train'. P > -----Original Message----- > From: UB Poetics discussion group > [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Alan Sondheim > Sent: 10 June 2005 02:59 > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Of Speech As of Number > > Of Speech As of Number > > > Number names in various languages (for example Japanese) > alter in relation to their quantified; '3 books' and '3 > people' may have different words for '3' altogether. In > English, the number words are unary, however. > > However, and this relates to issues of analog/digital (which > I continue of course to pursue), there are three 'speakings' > of number, dependent on > use: > > 1. 2118 = "two thousand, one hundred and eighteen" - > indicative of _quantity._ For example: "There are two > thousand, one hundred and eighteen bison on the island." Note > the comma and connective may be omitted: "There are two > thousand one hundred eighteen bison on the island." Think of > this as the _indexical._ > > 2. 2118 - "twenty-one eighteen" - indicative of date (within > a serial / linear construct). This is number as _sign._ For > example: "In the year twenty-one eighteen, all large mammals, > except for humans, will either be extinct or corralled." Note > "twenty-one eighteen" is almost never written out as such; > the usual expression would be "In the year 2118, all large > mammals, except for humans, will either be extinct or > corralled." Think of this as the _symbolic._ > > 3. 2118 - "two one one eight" - indicative of _identification_ For > example: "I live at two one one eight Western Boulevard, near > the Monument of Extinctions." Phone numbers and other > identifications (credit card, social security) are usually > spoken in this fashion. Think of this as the _ikonic._ > > In ikonic identification, quantity and seriality are > irrelevant. The number is neither cardinal nor ordinal. In > symbolic seriality, identification is based on quantity, only > in the sense that quantity defines positionality; this is > ordinal, not cardinal. In indexical quantity, identification > and seriality are weakened; the quantity of bison (for the > most part alone) is relevant. The number is cardinal. > > I am stretching Peirce's notion of signs here. Nevertheless, > there is some hint of value on the horizon. Number > trifurcates in the speaking; the specificity of 3 portends > the specificity of the discrete, for example. > > What happens with decimals? Almost always, they are > indicative of quantity, although one can imagine an > identification number of the form, for example, "21.2.1.96" - > which would be read "twenty-one point two point one point > ninety-six." If the form is standard, one might eliminate the > "point" as in "twenty-one two one ninety-six." If the numbers > are more than two or three digits, for example "2134.9121.1." > - the most likely speaking would be "two one three four point > nine one two one point one." > Telephone numbers of the form "(718)555-1235" are of this > type, with the punctuation omitted: "seven one eight [pause] > five five five [pause] one two three five." > > There are exceptions to all of these; I am concerned, > however, with a general trend, at least in one language. > > > > _ > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 02:03:27 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "David A. Kirschenbaum" Subject: Boog City presents a+bend press and Prewar Yardsale Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit please forward --------------- Boog City presents d.a. levy lives: celebrating the renegade press a+bend press (Davis, Calif.) Thurs. June 16, 6 p.m., free ACA Galleries 529 W.20th St., 5th Flr. NYC Event will be hosted by a+bend press editor Jill Stengel Featuring readings from Nicole Cooley Caroline Crumpacker Lisa Lubasch Kristin Prevallet Jo Ann Wasserman Rachel Zucker With music by Prewar Yardsale The debut issue of a+bend's new poetry magazine mem, which features work from poets mothering young children and a Page Mother, will be available. There will be wine, cheese, and fruit, too. Curated and with an introduction by Boog City editor David Kirschenbaum Directions: C/E to 23rd St., 1/9 to 18th St. Venue is bet. 10th and 11th avenues www.durationpress.com/abend www.olivejuicemusic.com/prewaryardsale.html Next event July 7 -- David A. Kirschenbaum, editor and publisher Boog City 330 W.28th St., Suite 6H NY, NY 10001-4754 For event and publication information: http://boogcityevents.blogspot.com/ T: (212) 842-BOOG (2664) F: (212) 842-2429 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 03:49:35 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: justin sirois Subject: new audio track on Narrow House Recordings MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit new audio track Disgusted Optimistic Lyric language Poem by Rod Smith from his record “Fear the Sky” out this summer visit (this html shortcut):: http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/thepixelplus/nhaudiodollp.html or www.narrowhouserecordings.com feel free to send us audio work (preferably on compact disc) to review and feature on our website. Narrow House Recordings one summerfield road gwynn oak, maryland 21207 http://www.narrowhouserecordings.com/ baltimore's contemporary, political and avant garde poetry record label. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 05:15:14 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: [britishhiphop] Flowmatic Open Mic TV Taping MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit "Reality Open Mic TV" Nuyorican Live presents Flowmatic TV Open Mic featuring Hip Hop, Spoken Word, & Acoustic Soul Tuesday June 21, 2005 8pm Nuyorican Poets Café 236 east 3rd street btwn ave's B & C in NYC Event: taping of features and open mic artist will be aired on QPTV, BCAT & Manhattan cable starting Fall 2005 Doors open at 8pm mic sign up starts at 7:30pm Be prepared to come looking good, to rock the mic and move the crowd with your hottest flows & tracks All lyricists are welcome to be a part of this history in the making Please leave the gangsta-izm, self hate and mad –dis-respect pieces, poems, raps & tracks at home Format for music playback: Bring your home grown tracks or music on cd only no wax, dat, adat, dvd, tape 30, 60 or 90 minute or ipod or any other mp3 player All open mic performers who would like to perform must sign a standard performance release form Nuyorican Poets Café 236 east 3rd street btwn ave's B & C in NYC adm:$10 http://www.britishhiphop.co.uk ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Be a friend to the oppressed and an enemy to the oppressor" \ --Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib (as)\ \ "This mathematical rhythmatical mechanism enhances my wisdom\ of Islam, keeps me calm from doing you harm, when I attack, it's Vietnam"\ --HellRazah\ \ "It's not too good to stay in a white man's country too long"\ --Mutabartuka\ \ "As for we who have decided to break the back of colonialism, \ our historic mission is to sanction all revolts, all desperate \ actions, all those abortive attempts drowned in rivers of blood."\ - Frantz Fanon\ \ "Everyday is Ashura and every land is Kerbala"\ -Imam Ja'far Sadiq\ \ http://scratchcue.blogspot.com/ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html \ http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_comments/766_0_15_0_C/ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date\ \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/ \ "For African people on the continent the image of Afrikans in America is that of a bunch of heavily armed Black men who only stop fighting each other long enough to put a dollar in Chocolate Thunda's thong at tha strip club."\ --min paul scott --"How MTV Underdeveloped Africa: Pistols, Pimps and Pan Africanism"\ \ M.E.D.I.A.: (MisEducation Destroying Intelligent Afrikans)\ \ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THCO2/ \ } ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:19:57 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: Re: The Arab in Me - Italian Derivatives of Arabic Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cypher, understood, but that's universally known as an English/Arab trade. = My father says 'baboosh' appears only in my mother's dialect (palo del coll= e) but not my father's (torito) and both towns are less than ten miles apar= t (6 miles to be exact).=20 The dialects are very different, but it's mostly a difference of intonation= (my father's dialect is pure drawl, like US's Southern drawl). Casamassima= , the town of, check it out, it has so much history, and Palo del Colle als= o. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Murat Nemet-Nejat" To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: The Arab in Me - Italian Derivatives of Arabic Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:38:11 EDT >=20 > In a message dated 06/07/05 10:44:05 AM, furniture_press@GRAFFITI.NET wri= tes: >=20 >=20 > > Strange thing about Arab anscestry: I was watching an Arab film (honest= ly I > > can't remember the title, but it had to do with this woman who was, OH!= it's > > called Bedouin Hacker... [SP?]) and there was a note (from the moderato= r who > > was showing the film, at the University here (Towson) in which she said= the > > word for slippers, in Arabic, is "baboosh". Now, I grew up speaking a v= ery > > drawl-driven Italian dialect from Bari (Palo del Colle is the town my m= other > > is, so we speak "da Pal'" or "paloise" but not necessarily "Barez" and = the word > > we use for slippers is also "baboosh". Now, I knew we had Greek and Sla= vic > > influences in my family (regional, the Slavs were just across the adria= tic, I > > think Albanian mostly 'cause they'd come over to work in Puglia) but Ar= abic? > > This is a shocking and delightful surprise; I always knew I was %100 It= alian > > but what does that mean? Of course it's nationalisitic of me to pronouc= e a > > purity of ethnicity - Italian - but all the surrounding influences are = now just > > coming out, just by the words in the language. Another example of > > appropriation: my grendparents and some of my aunts and uncles moved to= the USA for a > > few years and they picked up some American words which they "Italianize= d". One > > of my favorites was, and this is phonetic, "Bockouse". Now, the strange > > etymology of the word (I believe only my immediate family, that it, any= one > > derived from my Grandparents and their children and children's children= plus > > cousins and such, use the word): when my Grandparents moved to Brooklyn= , NY they > > lived in an apartment where there was no bathroom in the building, so t= hey had > > to use an outhouse, or "backhouse", and this eventually became "bockous= e". I > > still notice a lot of family intertwining Italian and English, especial= ly > > slang terms like "OK" and "Sure (Sho)". So, I'd like to say, just by th= e use of > > "baboosh" and perhaps there are other words I'm not too familiar with, = their > > etymology at least, that I'm pretty sure we have family, perhaps distan= t, who > > have Arab blood, which makes me a bit of the Arab, I don't know how muc= h, > > probably a tiny bit, but I do know that the evolution of the dialect is= pretty > > fast, I mean, within three generations the dialect will sound so differ= ent > > from it's former that I'll make a bet that those living 100 years apart= have a > > difficult time understanding each other. I'm assuming with the on-set o= f the > > industrial revolution, and Bari being a port city, a number of influenc= es > > have to have entered the culture, and I am finally understanding the > > implications of this influence. Now I understand that dialects are diff= erent from the > > mother tongue, but here's a great example of nonsense dialect in action! > > > > If I want to say "Let's go" in Italian we say "andiamo" but in the dial= ect > > we say "shamanin da doe", again, phonetic, but that's not even close! > > > > Also, is there a rural French dialect that is almost completely differe= nt > > than the mother tongue? I also notice, in films using a very hard rural= French > > dialect, a distinction in words that are similar to my dialect. Perhaps= the > > cross polination of cultures can be found in the languages, and this mi= ght > > help me find out who exactly my anscestors could have been. Anyone care= to share > > examples, possibly point me in the direction of some scholarship on the > > language problem? > > > > If anyone would like to share some language problems with me, especiall= y in > > talking with me about the dialect, if there is some possibility that I = can > > throw some phrases out at folks and perhaps they might notice some, at = least > > phonetic similarities, this would be a breakthrough. > > > > Does anyone have any insight into my case? > > > > Yours, > > Christophe Casamassima > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net > > Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for = just > > US$9.95 per year! > > > > > > Powered by Outblaze > > >=20 > One crucial word in English with Arabic origins is "cypher," in the sense= of > zero, which in Arabic is "sif'r" (sifir). The reason is that Arabs invent= ed > the concept of zero, a giant step in thinking. >=20 > I am sure there are many other words. >=20 > Re-visiting Florence after a period of many years, I was struck to realize > how Renaissance art is influenced by Islamic culture, particularly the Mo= orish > architecture. The focus on the Classical Greek sources of The Renaissance= tries > to by by-pass the Islamic factor, itself influenced by Plato and Aristotl= e. > Until the 17th century, the Islam and Christianity were ideological, even > mortal enemies. The Ottoman had conquered Constantinople ("the ward of th= e Virgin > Mary") in the 15th century and had come to the gates of Vienna in the 17t= h. >=20 > The Mesquite Mosque in Cordoba -to me one of the greastest five or six > buildings in the world- has a church built within it (its guts) by the Sp= anish king > (Karlos) in a completely different style after the reconquering of the ci= ty.. > The altars of the church and the mosque point to different directions. It= is > an incredible experience which made me feel I was in the middle of a scie= nce > fiction punk novel. >=20 > Murat www.towson.edu/~cacasama/furniture/poae baltimorereads.blogspot.com zillionpoems.blogspot.com --=20 _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for just= US$9.95 per year! Powered by Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:55:48 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Charles Bernstein Subject: Shadowtime Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Shadowtime a libretto by Charles Bernstein for composer Brian Ferneyhough has just been published by Green Integer Books 132 pages, $11.95 for information on the book: http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/bernstein/books/shadowtime.html U.S. Premiere of the opera at Lincoln Center Festival July 21 and 22, 2005, 8pm, Rose Theater (New York) July 20, 6pm, Kaplan Penthouse: Symposium: Shadowtime: "Why Benjamin Now?" with Marjorie Perloff and Jean-Michel Rabate, moderated by Bernstein July 18, 6pm: Free Symoisum with Ferneyhough and Bernstein, moderated by Joel Sachs 8pm: Free Ferneyough Concert, with the New Julliard Ensemble, conduced by Joel Sachs LONDON CONCERT PERFORMANCE: English National Opera, in association with BBC Radio 3 -- July 9, 2005 (London Coliseum) For ticket and other information: http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/bernstein/shadowtime/LCF.html Shadowtime is a thought opera based on the work and life of the German philosopher, essayist, and cultural critic, Walter Benjamin. The libretto was written by Charles Bernstein for composer Brian Ferneyhough and had its premiere in May 2004 at the Munich Biennale. In its seven scenes, Shadowtime explores some of the major themes of Benjamin's work, including the intertwined natures of history, time, transience, timelessness, language, and melancholy; the possibilities for a transformational leftist politics; the interconnectivity of language, things, and cosmos; and the role of dialectical materiality, aura, interpretation, and translation in art. Beginning on the last evening of Benjamin's life, Shadowtime projects an alternative course for what happened on that fateful night. Opening onto a world of shades, of ghosts, of the dead, Shadowtime inhabits a period in human history in which the light flickered and then failed. Tess Crebbin in Music and Vision, says "Bernstein's libretto, plain and simple, is the finest contemporary libretto that I know of." The Shadowtime book is now available directly from the publisher, Green Integer ($11.95plus $2 for shipping): 6022 Wilshire Boulevard, Los Angeles, CA 90036 To order the book on-line: http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/bernstein/books/shadowtime.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:00:36 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Baraban Subject: Re: Shadowtime In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050608194648.05d466f0@writing.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I look forward to the opera--though I haven't yet heard any music by Ferneyhough. Lincoln Center has been picking operas that are both very intelligent and wonderfully musical for their summer festival. At last year's festival I saw "Macbeth" by Italian composer Salvatore Sciarrino (I hope I spelled that right--he's terrific), performed at the theater within the John Jay School of Criminal Justice, no less--this opera a stark presentation of horror, with voices at the end singing "let not what has happened in the night be dragged through the mud of signs" (i.e., let not the events be obfuscated). (Earlier that day at Lincoln Center I had seen Le Samauri, a classic 50's French movie, said to be a very strong influence on The New Wave, that aestheticized the life of of a hit man!) But you, Charles, brought up Robert Creeley's libretto based on E.A. Poe's "Ligeia". Do you, (or does anyone else) know who was supposed to set this to music and why it apparently never happened? I looked up this text and see that it was published with visual art elements by Alex Katz--but again what about music? --- Charles Bernstein wrote: > Shadowtime > a libretto by Charles Bernstein > for composer Brian Ferneyhough > has just been published by Green Integer Books > 132 pages, $11.95 > > for information on the book: > http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/bernstein/books/shadowtime.html > > U.S. Premiere of the opera at Lincoln Center > Festival > July 21 and 22, 2005, 8pm, Rose Theater (New York) > > July 20, 6pm, Kaplan Penthouse: Symposium: > Shadowtime: "Why Benjamin Now?" > with Marjorie Perloff and Jean-Michel Rabate, > moderated by Bernstein > > July 18, 6pm: Free Symoisum with Ferneyhough and > Bernstein, moderated by > Joel Sachs > 8pm: Free Ferneyough Concert, with the New Julliard > Ensemble, conduced by > Joel Sachs > > LONDON CONCERT PERFORMANCE: > English National Opera, in association with BBC > Radio 3 -- July 9, 2005 > (London Coliseum) > > For ticket and other information: > http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/bernstein/shadowtime/LCF.html > > Shadowtime is a thought opera based on the work and > life of the German > philosopher, essayist, and cultural critic, Walter > Benjamin. The libretto > was written by Charles Bernstein for composer Brian > Ferneyhough and had its > premiere in May 2004 at the Munich Biennale. In its > seven scenes, > Shadowtime explores some of the major themes of > Benjamin's work, including > the intertwined natures of history, time, > transience, timelessness, > language, and melancholy; the possibilities for a > transformational leftist > politics; the interconnectivity of language, things, > and cosmos; and the > role of dialectical materiality, aura, > interpretation, and translation in > art. Beginning on the last evening of Benjamin's > life, Shadowtime projects > an alternative course for what happened on that > fateful night. > > Opening onto a world of shades, of ghosts, of the > dead, Shadowtime inhabits > a period in human history in which the light > flickered and then failed. > > Tess Crebbin in Music and Vision, says "Bernstein's > libretto, plain and > simple, is the finest contemporary libretto that I > know of." > > The Shadowtime book is now available directly from > the publisher, Green > Integer ($11.95plus $2 for shipping): 6022 Wilshire > Boulevard, Los Angeles, > CA 90036 > To order the book on-line: > http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/bernstein/books/shadowtime.html > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:04:41 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mary Jo Malo Subject: kerouac MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone seen Jack's recently released military record? Does it differ from what we previously knew? Mary Jo ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:26:58 +0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Bob Marcacci Subject: Re: Thoughts on war. Not War. Film in war. Flimsy wars. In-Reply-To: <20050609164428.B9BF313F3C@ws5-9.us4.outblaze.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit i love you and i don't i don't love furniture but what have you done for me lately anybone i have to pick with you i mean i have to try to talk to you when you do the talking for me i have nothing my trinity B-O-B we float in this space and we really want to speak even though we don't know our planets it's all greek to me even if it's my own story or what i took personally -- Bob Apologize: To lay the foundation for a future offence. - Ambrose Bierce > From: furniture_ press > Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:44:28 -0500 > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Thoughts on war. Not War. Film in war. Flimsy wars. > > No one likes a kidder (margeaux) or a kidman (nicole) but > its been a dear challenge for me to take anyone seriously > and be taken seriously by anybone. It really is just part > of the experiment (see Boy, Wolf, Aesop). > > It's carried over to what I believe is my poetics but do > I want to call it poetics? or poor ethics? In reality, > I've not ever succumbed to a feeling of alienation from > my peers (my work transcends time and space and the spirit > of intersession). Whatever that means, Greek. > > So please be kind, rewind, sit back, and tell me your story. > > Or lie to me. > > > Christophe Casamassima > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net > Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for just > US$9.95 per year! > > > Powered by Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:05:26 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Catherine Daly Subject: NORMAN MAILER ANNIVERSARY NIGHT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit BEYOND BAROQUE JUNE 24th / 7:30 PM NORMAN MAILER ANNIVERSARY NIGHT A stellar group in recitation of the poetry, prose, even stage play dialogue of premier American author Norman Mailer. This event celebrating the anniversary of a June 1969 fundraiser at the old Cinemateque 16 moviehouse on Sunset Bv. (where Book Soup is now) designed to raise $$ for Mailer's campaign for the mayor of New York City. An event which featured Jim Morrison you'll remember from THE DOORS, a group of Andy Warhol scenesters, the poet Jack Hirschman & Michael C Ford. Robby Krieger backed the words on guitar. Since Robby & Jim will be absent for different reasons, Jason Ritter following his father's path (as a film star (Our Very Own) a TV series regular cast member (Joan Of Arcadia) will essay Morrison's poetry. Backup musicians on the date will be Michael Campagna (Muddy Waters, Chaka Khan) guitars & Cliff Hugo (The Beach Boys, Supertramp) on upright bass. Since Hirschman, Ford & Krieger are just about the only participants extant, Friday night's "re-creation" will have Jack Hirschman (Lyripol, Fists on Fire) reading his work. Michael C Ford (Fire Escapes, To Kiss The Blood Off Our Hands) will reciprocate in kind. Russ Tamblyn (7 Brides For 7 Brothers, West Side Story) will take on the words of Norman Mailer which includes a scene from one of Mailer's plays in which he will be joined by breakout motion picture actress Alanna Ubach (Meet The Fokkers). Composer Bonnie Tamblyn will be in the singer/songwriter slot. This even will benefit the Special Collections Library at Beyond Baroque Foundation Jack Hirschman will come back Saturday night to do a bonus recital of his most recent work, Opening honors will be presented by Film-maker, poet Philomene Long. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:38:52 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ruth Lepson Subject: Re: Shadowtime In-Reply-To: <20050610150037.89443.qmail@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi Stephen B and Charles B. I wd love to know abt the Creeley libretto, in part bec Steve Lacy and Creeley came to my classes at the NEng Conservatory of Music in recent yrs and I am even going to attempt to write something abt their collaboration & relationship, so am interested in related matters. Have been to Bob's family plot in Mt Auburn Cemetery 3 times; helps to have a place to go talk to him. Am hoping to get to NY to hear yr opera, Charles B.--terrific subject and I imagine libretto. Best, Ruth Lepson On 6/10/05 11:00 AM, "Stephen Baraban" wrote: > I look forward to the opera--though I haven't yet > heard any music by Ferneyhough. Lincoln Center has > been picking operas that are both very intelligent and > wonderfully musical for their summer festival. At > last year's festival I saw "Macbeth" by Italian > composer Salvatore Sciarrino (I hope I spelled that > right--he's terrific), performed at the theater within > the John Jay School of Criminal Justice, no less--this > opera a stark presentation of horror, with voices at > the end singing "let not what has happened in the > night be dragged through the mud of signs" (i.e., let > not the events be obfuscated). (Earlier that day at > Lincoln Center I had seen Le Samauri, a classic 50's > French movie, said to be a very strong influence on > The New Wave, that aestheticized the life of of a hit > man!) > > But you, Charles, brought up Robert Creeley's libretto > based on E.A. Poe's "Ligeia". Do you, (or does anyone > else) know who was supposed to set this to music and > why it apparently never happened? I looked up this > text and see that it was published with visual art > elements by Alex Katz--but again what about music? > > > > --- Charles Bernstein wrote: > >> Shadowtime >> a libretto by Charles Bernstein >> for composer Brian Ferneyhough >> has just been published by Green Integer Books >> 132 pages, $11.95 >> >> for information on the book: >> > http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/bernstein/books/shadowtime.html >> >> U.S. Premiere of the opera at Lincoln Center >> Festival >> July 21 and 22, 2005, 8pm, Rose Theater (New York) >> >> July 20, 6pm, Kaplan Penthouse: Symposium: >> Shadowtime: "Why Benjamin Now?" >> with Marjorie Perloff and Jean-Michel Rabate, >> moderated by Bernstein >> >> July 18, 6pm: Free Symoisum with Ferneyhough and >> Bernstein, moderated by >> Joel Sachs >> 8pm: Free Ferneyough Concert, with the New Julliard >> Ensemble, conduced by >> Joel Sachs >> >> LONDON CONCERT PERFORMANCE: >> English National Opera, in association with BBC >> Radio 3 -- July 9, 2005 >> (London Coliseum) >> >> For ticket and other information: >> > http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/bernstein/shadowtime/LCF.html >> >> Shadowtime is a thought opera based on the work and >> life of the German >> philosopher, essayist, and cultural critic, Walter >> Benjamin. The libretto >> was written by Charles Bernstein for composer Brian >> Ferneyhough and had its >> premiere in May 2004 at the Munich Biennale. In its >> seven scenes, >> Shadowtime explores some of the major themes of >> Benjamin's work, including >> the intertwined natures of history, time, >> transience, timelessness, >> language, and melancholy; the possibilities for a >> transformational leftist >> politics; the interconnectivity of language, things, >> and cosmos; and the >> role of dialectical materiality, aura, >> interpretation, and translation in >> art. Beginning on the last evening of Benjamin's >> life, Shadowtime projects >> an alternative course for what happened on that >> fateful night. >> >> Opening onto a world of shades, of ghosts, of the >> dead, Shadowtime inhabits >> a period in human history in which the light >> flickered and then failed. >> >> Tess Crebbin in Music and Vision, says "Bernstein's >> libretto, plain and >> simple, is the finest contemporary libretto that I >> know of." >> >> The Shadowtime book is now available directly from >> the publisher, Green >> Integer ($11.95plus $2 for shipping): 6022 Wilshire >> Boulevard, Los Angeles, >> CA 90036 >> To order the book on-line: >> > http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/bernstein/books/shadowtime.html >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:26:13 -1000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Susan Webster Schultz Subject: Tinfish Net now up MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The second installment of Tinfish Net, our on-line site for poetics and polemics, is now up. See http://tinfishpress.com/tinfishnet.html for new work by Kaia Sand, Emelihter Kihleng, Janet Bowdan, Jacinta Galea`i, Janice Williamson, Hazel Smith, Ken Goto, web design by Gaye Chan... discussions of Pacific identities and educational conundra.... While you're at it, check out the rest of our website. aloha, Susan Susan M. Schultz Editor ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:49:56 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: More "Sleeping With Sappho" Comments: cc: UK POETRY , "Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and poetics"@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU, POETRYETC@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Overwhelming demand compels to put up more "Sleeping With Sappho" pieces! I hear she's not unhappy with the attention. No, she is not using a cell-phone! Someone says that one can tell by the way "the language bristles". I will accept that! Kindly. Go to: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com A good weekend to all & thanks, Stephen Vincent ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:48:01 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: FROM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed WE ARE ON THE WAY STOP WILL BE IN SANTA ANA TOMORROW EVENING STOP THE WEATHER HAS BEEN FINE AND THERE ARE LOW HILLS IN THE SKY I MEAN CLOUDS IN THE HILLS STOP IT IS NOT YET RAINING AND THERE ARE NO CLOUDS IT IS A CLOUDLESS SKY GETTING HOT WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE CAR STOP GIVE MY REGARDS TO THE USUAL CREW AND FORGIVE US THERE ARE FEW TELEGRAPHIC OUTPOSTS IN THE DESERT REGIONS WE WILL PASS THROUGH STOP IF ALL DOES NOT GO WELL IT WILL NOT BODE WELL AND WE WILL TAKE WELLS FARGO I THINK THAT IS HOW THEY SPELL IT IS IT NOT STOP NOW IS THE TIME FOR ALL GOOD MEN ETC I HAVE A RENDEZVOUS WITH DEATH ETC STOP WE HAVE SEEN SOME RARE QUOTE GEESE UNQUOTE FOR WE ARE NOT QUITE SURE WHAT MANNER OF BIRD IF BIRD THEY BE THEY BE STOP ONE HAD A DEWLAP SIMILAR PERHAPS TO THAT OF A ROOSTER ALTHOUGH I HAVE NOT DESCENDED QUOTE THE BARNYARD WAY UNQUOTE FOR SOME DAYS NOW EVER SINCE THE ALPACA INCIDENT STOP AZURE SENDS HER LOVE AND REGARDS AS WELL AND WE WILL SOON FESTOON AND BE IN TOUCH BEYOND OURSELVES STOP TO BE DELIVERED WITH RETURN GREETINGS AND CONFIRMATION OF ARRIVAL STOP ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 00:06:48 +0100 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Peter Cudmore Subject: Re: Shadowtime In-Reply-To: <20050610150037.89443.qmail@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is that Brian Ferneyhough? Time was that if a player (say, Chris Redgate, Oboe) said he could play E over top C, Ferneyyough would score an F. That's progress, folks. P > -----Original Message----- > From: UB Poetics discussion group > [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Stephen Baraban > Sent: 10 June 2005 16:01 > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Re: Shadowtime > > I look forward to the opera--though I haven't yet > heard any music by Ferneyhough. Lincoln Center has > been picking operas that are both very intelligent and > wonderfully musical for their summer festival. At last > year's festival I saw "Macbeth" by Italian composer Salvatore > Sciarrino (I hope I spelled that right--he's terrific), > performed at the theater within the John Jay School of > Criminal Justice, no less--this opera a stark presentation of > horror, with voices at the end singing "let not what has > happened in the night be dragged through the mud of signs" > (i.e., let not the events be obfuscated). (Earlier that day > at Lincoln Center I had seen Le Samauri, a classic 50's > French movie, said to be a very strong influence on The New > Wave, that aestheticized the life of of a hit > man!) > > But you, Charles, brought up Robert Creeley's libretto based > on E.A. Poe's "Ligeia". Do you, (or does anyone > else) know who was supposed to set this to music and why it > apparently never happened? I looked up this text and see > that it was published with visual art elements by Alex > Katz--but again what about music? > > > > --- Charles Bernstein wrote: > > > Shadowtime > > a libretto by Charles Bernstein > > for composer Brian Ferneyhough > > has just been published by Green Integer Books > > 132 pages, $11.95 > > > > for information on the book: > > > http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/bernstein/books/shadowtime.html > > > > U.S. Premiere of the opera at Lincoln Center Festival July > 21 and 22, > > 2005, 8pm, Rose Theater (New York) > > > > July 20, 6pm, Kaplan Penthouse: Symposium: > > Shadowtime: "Why Benjamin Now?" > > with Marjorie Perloff and Jean-Michel Rabate, moderated by Bernstein > > > > July 18, 6pm: Free Symoisum with Ferneyhough and Bernstein, > moderated > > by Joel Sachs > > 8pm: Free Ferneyough Concert, with the New Julliard > Ensemble, conduced > > by Joel Sachs > > > > LONDON CONCERT PERFORMANCE: > > English National Opera, in association with BBC Radio 3 -- July 9, > > 2005 (London Coliseum) > > > > For ticket and other information: > > > http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/bernstein/shadowtime/LCF.html > > > > Shadowtime is a thought opera based on the work and life of > the German > > philosopher, essayist, and cultural critic, Walter Benjamin. The > > libretto was written by Charles Bernstein for composer Brian > > Ferneyhough and had its premiere in May 2004 at the Munich > Biennale. > > In its seven scenes, Shadowtime explores some of the major > themes of > > Benjamin's work, including the intertwined natures of > history, time, > > transience, timelessness, language, and melancholy; the > possibilities > > for a transformational leftist politics; the interconnectivity of > > language, things, and cosmos; and the role of dialectical > materiality, > > aura, interpretation, and translation in art. Beginning on the last > > evening of Benjamin's life, Shadowtime projects an > alternative course > > for what happened on that fateful night. > > > > Opening onto a world of shades, of ghosts, of the dead, Shadowtime > > inhabits a period in human history in which the light flickered and > > then failed. > > > > Tess Crebbin in Music and Vision, says "Bernstein's libretto, plain > > and simple, is the finest contemporary libretto that I know of." > > > > The Shadowtime book is now available directly from the publisher, > > Green Integer ($11.95plus $2 for shipping): 6022 Wilshire > Boulevard, > > Los Angeles, CA 90036 To order the book on-line: > > > http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/bernstein/books/shadowtime.html > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection > around http://mail.yahoo.com > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:33:47 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Gary Sullivan Subject: MOCCA FEST 2005 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed If you're in NYC this weekend, come see me and my comics pals at what the Village Voice calls the "Best Small Press Nexus (Anywhere!)" The 4th Annual MoCCA Art Festival will be held on June 11 and 12, 2005 at the Puck Building, 295 Lafayette Street (just above Houston). Dozens of the best comics artists working today will be there, many with new books, original art, and other goodies. Some of the comics artists exhibiting include: Jessica Abel, Charles Burns, Daniel Clowes, Vanessa Davis, Kim Deitch, Bill Griffith, Leah Hayes, Matt Madden, Adrian Tomine, and dozens of others, including my pals & tablemates Cheryl Gladstone, Jerel Johnson, and Karla Krupala. ADMISSION: Everyone is welcome to attend the MoCCA Art Festival. Tickets will be available at the door for $7/day or $12/weekend, or $5/weekend for MoCCA members. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:07:03 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Bill Berkson Subject: Re: POETICS Digest - 9 Jun 2005 to 10 Jun 2005 (#2005-160) In-Reply-To: <200506110400.j5B40Ib6024680@ylpvm47.prodigy.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I will be away from June 15 to July 7 and not checking email during that time. In any emergency you can reach me on my cell phone 415-725-1609. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 00:32:18 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Charles Bernstein Subject: Creeley's Ligeia Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Bob Creeley wrote the libretto for Ligeia in 1992, prompted by a composer then studying in Rochester. (They didn't know each other very well.) Bob proceeded to write the libretto according to his own always considerable lights, inspired by the Poe story. The libretto didn't turn out to be something on which the composer wanted to work. That was OK with Bob, though, since he was happy with his text as it was and content to imagine some future setting. He ends his note to the Granary edition by saying: "It was my own thoughts that such 'music' might be complexly realized in this modest translation of Poe's classic story to the inevitably transforming stage." The libretto was first published in TO magazine (from Philadelphia) in the Summer 1995 issue. This is what is on the Granary Books web site (a few coding errors corrected) -- http://www.granarybooks.com -- Robert Creeley and Alex Katz, Ligeia: A Libretto. New York. Granary Books. 1996. 13 1/4" x 6 1/2"; Letterpress. 135 copies. 35 hors commerce, 100 for sale. Originally published in 1838, Edgar Allan Poe's engaging short story Ligeia "invites a diversity of readings and one feels confidence in making a determination for one's own necessary uses" (Robert Creeley). Here, the material has been translated into an operatic context, Mr. Creeley's first libretto. He excerpts from Poe's narrative in brief: "the narrator/hero meets the exceptional Ligeia, is captivated by her, marries her, and becomes entirely influenced by her commanding powers of intellect and beauty. Then she dies harshly, resistingly. And then, after a brief time, the hero remarries, and the cycle is almost immediately repeated without seeming resistance, which leads to the intense conclusion, the recreation of Ligeia in the corpse of the Lady Rowena." (from "A Note on Ligeia" by Mr. Creeley.) Ligeia: A Libretto makes use of the emphasized pattern of Poe's narrative. His vocabulary, rhythms and rhetorical emphasis also inform Mr. Creeley's compositional strategy. Ultimately, however, one is left with a new and unique work here beautifully transformed for the stage. Alex Katz has made the set design drawing for staging and costume toward the eventual production of Ligeia. Designed and printed by Philip Gallo. Bound by Jill Jevne. Signed by Mr. Creeley and Mr. Katz. ISBN: 1-887123-11-3. $500. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:54:20 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: Let me do my timetables x (from more at 7:30: notes from new palestine) book 12 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cream , he must of gotten tired and couldn=92t do the walk to the table n= o more. He did one hell of a chronic blast since last dark to light and t= hen this mornin and then he was tired but he nev=92r get no sleep. He spe= nt most of the night fixatin ova th=E9t bullet made from Was=92s bike. Y=E4= nkee was jus scarin-out is=92all - anyone would say that. What was the m= ath of the day + a Bang! or pop or booyah/click boom - he crooned. He ha= d stopped bangin tunes. He was a slump in spring chair listening to a ol= d time radio on the poppin scratched digital =3D the shadow faught the wh= isperer -- the reach the reach the reach the reach the reach the reach = the reach the reach=85 Cream, he jus in his tee and ginch listen=92n to the electronic repetitio= n becoming hummin in his room. He could run a hottub and as he sits surro= unded inna hot tub of runnin red out jus jettin a slick arkansar toothpic= k through cold water cuttin through water and grease ova peau and he got = his download on and he can=92t adapted to yank it when he leans back and = all goes black. they shook and need a reach. it could have been a Bang!= or pop or booyah/click boom, whatever. They gat her good and all dat.=20 Let me do my timetables x 1.2. (1.2.) 1.2. =3D They fixed up the shit a= nd fixed up a whole new sports complex too. They got new pop show foodma= rt stadium where rappin penises play and feggit popstars. They closed dow= n the schools and most of his homies from school are taken classes at the= super max juvi. My higher education. S=92all la. Why shut down the sch= ools in Lili Lebanon? They say th=E9t mens go out with a mess like th=E9t= because it=92s macho trip they get the job done better than chicas th=E9= t chicas take pills and and razors, th=E9t abatido hombres, triste muchac= hos sad/sad mecx they get it done th=E9t they do it alot more and they ge= t it done good th=E9t gringo penas run they whips up roun poles in bellyc= uttin speed wylins and the n=E9gro and eses y po blancos jus done have a = ride to get outside of maybe a bike and board and they slum tires look th= in from the sparkle they had when they worked them outside to show the Bl= ock/barrio and parks. What was the math of the day + a Bang! or pop or bo= oyah/click boom ....can you, can you... he no puto. What say bruh? brown?= Hey Leroy! Hey oscar! Hey Weldon! =85too deep into the con=85 Packin the= weight of shotgun blues of biggie and the lost poetic sketches of mikah9= =2E where are you=85? More and bruh Aaahhh, tell me. get at me. where = you at? like def is death made tight. Daddy, who your bastard? I kill = your bastard. Where are you? where are you? where are you? where are you?= where are you? where are you? where are you? where are you? where are yo= u? His daddy. His daddy=92s buddies. =85too deep into the con=85 Woht mem= ories. aahhh. Where you at? Crazy casper folk hollerin at him. *how=92s= your math?* Aow. =85and the subject was=85 They could go out hi powered= =2E Rave quiet about raven. Go with jenny, mackt out,glockout --they alwa= ys seem to leave a mess. What I got at my head rhymes with=85They always = seem to get plenty of th=E9t th=E9t fo=92 shu.=20 Cream, he sat next to his pute he jus done wont to go locin a ghetto Bloc= k in any foreign place today. No more games at coffee shops with feggit = china bwais deck out like one peice chattin it up white pedaephiles=97he=92= d rented all he could=85. He didn=92t mind watchin the candy on the scree= n saver. What was the math of the day he crooned + a Bang! or pop or booy= ah/click boom. Here come the train. He had plenty back when it came to fi= re power. =85is lil burg still choppin heads off goats for Iranians? He = still play hoops in Lil Lebanon. =85too deep into the con=85 He needed m= ore fire power and Lil burg was delivering subs now to Saanich and Hillsi= de. =85specials specials dubplate icecream cones=85.Like the gringos they= figured it was big bite of time th=E9t they were taken when cars got wra= pped or metal screamed. Whitebwais suburban suicides. What was the math = of the day + a Bang! or pop or booyah/click boom he crooned. Never tell=85= =2E Like the scandel in orange vines and the dogs biting you in prison ce= lls=85 Nuttin Fuct. Speed. My daddy mayn, he act psychopath - sic shite.= Holy books flushed. Pissin up a ball court on walls filled with sacred p= ages for fearin the meaning. Bad rule of aim. A kill. assembled point bla= nk cleanin. Snitch. Waitin for blue sparkin, chamber blues. Come make a h= ome jus in the middle of his dome. He done feel like nuttin in his fist, = imaginin boss hardass sweat chicas and chipper bettys with the most prope= r geisha masks or any of all dat. His daddy. What was the math of the day= + a Bang! or pop or booyah/click boom -- he crooned. He reached for his= tooth pick and slide his slippin finger along the edge. S=92all la. He j= us feel loco but straight like cappin or sleepin or restin or jus not doi= n anythin for a long while. a Bang! or pop or booyah/click boom =96 he cr= ooned. Help me. What did Bird say? Is he a graf on a wall made by fan who= parleyd that tag into to BLA sayin it=92s a early rap game? =85can you = maintain? Will he be over sampled like biggie over beer gained in boots = in crowded parks or down by the square? Or in e-ToWn waitin on a sucka to= beat down. This is all a weakness. So wohts not woht? [get it done, mec= , get it done] =85too deep into the con=85 playin ball with brown skins i= n Lil Lebanon. But maybe th=E9t was the note. Weakness to strength. Someo= ne does the thing like it was a mercy thing like when you cyan move and = move it or yourself. His daddy did time. What was the math? Time to prati= ce his timetables? I. 8. Let me do my timetables x 1.2. (1.2.) 1.2. =3D W= hat was the math of the day + a Bang! or pop or booyah/click boom -- he c= rooned. Woht a memory.=20 Cream, he dabbed the strawberry onto his robe. It=92s not the same when a= warder does it ain=92t mercy, it mean. It gutter bustin slum sanatizin g= utter cleanin.=20 Have you been judged? Will all things fall from your hands.=20 He no shvullah. Cream no fish. Like the lost poems of Weldon and 9=85let = the Was enter his head 2 dom/dom 1 dom 3 dom 6/dom =09 5 dom What was the math of the day + a Bang! or pop or booyah/click boom - he c= rooned. the only pure thing is god 1425 Lawrence Y Braithwaite (aka Lord Patch) New Palestine/Fernwood/The Hood Victoria, BC download: Good Violence: http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2005/06/41552.php http://ottawa.indymedia.ca/en/2005/05/951.shtml http://bc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/1886/index.php Other Downloads: Hurricane Angel "luckily, i was half cat": http://omnipresentrecords.com/ishaq/?media_id=3D8 and http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Be a friend to the oppressed and an enemy to the oppressor" \ --Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib (as)\ \ "This mathematical rhythmatical mechanism enhances my wisdom\ of Islam, keeps me calm from doing you harm, when I attack, it's Vietnam"= \ --HellRazah\ \ "It's not too good to stay in a white man's country too long"\ --Mutabartuka\ \ "As for we who have decided to break the back of colonialism, \ our historic mission is to sanction all revolts, all desperate \ actions, all those abortive attempts drowned in rivers of blood."\ - Frantz Fanon\ \ "Everyday is Ashura and every land is Kerbala"\ -Imam Ja'far Sadiq\ \ http://scratchcue.blogspot.com/ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html \ http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_comments/766_0_15_0_C/=20 \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=3Dbraithwaite&orderBy=3Ddate\ \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/ \ "For African people on the continent the image of Afrikans in America is = that of a bunch of heavily armed Black men who only stop fighting each ot= her long enough to put a dollar in Chocolate Thunda's thong at tha strip = club."\ --min paul scott --"How MTV Underdeveloped Africa: Pistols, Pimps and Pan= Africanism"\ \ M.E.D.I.A.: (MisEducation Destroying Intelligent Afrikans)\ \ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THCO2/ \ } ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:09:24 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jason Nelson Subject: Residency Project Update and Request MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit While nearly half way through an online residency for the London arts organization Netbehaviour, I am searching for more collaborators. Each day I create one or two net art creations inspired by and containing content from poets, artists and other creative types. Check out the website (and text description) below for more information. But for the last few, I want to do some morphology of poets, combining multiple author content for each one. So look at what I have done so far, and drop me a note with some words or a quote or images, or short sounds, anything really. Jason Nelson Residency url: http://www.secrettechnology.com/resident/residency.htm Residency description: Exploring interface and interactive creatures with content grabbed, thrust, stolen, and borrowed from new media artists, poets and electronic pioneers. Over these 2-3 weeks, I will create twenty-four digital extravaganzas, with each one being loosely or closely centered on the content, ideas, images and words of others. Think of this as ego stroking and translation, a way to connect to those I have never met and might not ever meet, and play with ideas of interaction and interface. Some have offered their content, others will simply be robbed, and all will be enchanted, confused, annoyed and giddily stroked. Bio: "As a NET ARTIST, I am apparently dying or dead. With that in mind, I bask in my zombie glow, my rotting wires and my urge to bite through skulls. I could list those academic and worldly accolades that have trophied themselves on my work, but I am only as good as the last swirling mess I spit out. I live in Australia with a beautiful woman and miss the snow, so miss the snow." \r\nhttp://www.heliozoa.com \r\nhttp://www.secrettechnology.com \r\n\r\n",0]);D(["ce"]);D(["ms","33c"]);//-->My worlds: http://www.heliozoa.com http://www.secrettechnology.com --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing & more. Check it out! ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:46:22 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Peter Ciccariello Subject: Re: Residency Project Update and Request In-Reply-To: <20050611060924.54833.qmail@web30214.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Jason, You requested images. Here are two that just found the light of day. http://www.cgi7.com/peterimages/cleavefinalweb.jpg http://www.cgi7.com/peterimages/starryskyfinal1web.jpg -Peter Ciccariello ARTIST'S BLOG - http://invisiblenotes.blogspot.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Jason Nelson To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Sent: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:09:24 -0700 Subject: Residency Project Update and Request While nearly half way through an online residency for the London arts organization Netbehaviour, I am searching for more collaborators. Each day I create one or two net art creations inspired by and containing content from poets, artists and other creative types. Check out the website (and text description) below for more information. But for the last few, I want to do some morphology of poets, combining multiple author content for each one. So look at what I have done so far, and drop me a note with some words or a quote or images, or short sounds, anything really. Jason Nelson Residency url: http://www.secrettechnology.com/resident/residency.htm Residency description: Exploring interface and interactive creatures with content grabbed, thrust, stolen, and borrowed from new media artists, poets and electronic pioneers. Over these 2-3 weeks, I will create twenty-four digital extravaganzas, with each one being loosely or closely centered on the content, ideas, images and words of others. Think of this as ego stroking and translation, a way to connect to those I have never met and might not ever meet, and play with ideas of interaction and interface. Some have offered their content, others will simply be robbed, and all will be enchanted, confused, annoyed and giddily stroked. Bio: "As a NET ARTIST, I am apparently dying or dead. With that in mind, I bask in my zombie glow, my rotting wires and my urge to bite through skulls. I could list those academic and worldly accolades that have trophied themselves on my work, but I am only as good as the last swirling mess I spit out. I live in Australia with a beautiful woman and miss the snow, so miss the snow." \r\nhttp://www.heliozoa.com \r\nhttp://www.secrettechnology.com \r\n\r\n",0]);D(["ce"]);D(["ms","33c"]);//-->My worlds: http://www.heliozoa.com http://www.secrettechnology.com --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing & more. Check it out! ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:48:29 +0000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Hoerman Subject: Mass. poetry - 4 things MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 1. The first event in the Contemporary Reading Series, which took place last Friday, 6/3, in Lowell was a great success. Headlining the event was Ilya Kaminsky, who gave an incredible reading to an appreciative and diverse audience at the Revolving Museum in downtown Lowell. Joining Ilya were Portsmouth novelist Katie Towler, and Lowell poet Matt Miller, recent winner of the Stegner Fellowship to Stanford. I started the event reading from a book that caught Ilya's attention, Frank Stanford's The Singing Knives. The energy hit the roof and stayed there. Several people in Lowell said it was one of the overall best readings they had ever attended. A lot of books were signed. More to come--6-7 readings per year. 2. Mass. Cultural Council Poetry Fellows to read in Northampton 6/25, 3pm The Mass. Cultural Council awards Artist Grants in poetry every two years. Current Fellows and finalists are featured in this event, including Maria Arroyo, Kurt Eidsvig, DM Gordon, James Heflin, Michael Hoerman, Tanya Larkin, Barry Sternlieb, Margaret Szumowski, Andrew Varnon, and Sophie Wadsworth. 3. A young Camodian immigrant who is interested in poetry and writes some himself is in the Suffolk Co. Jail awaiting trial for a serious crime. His name is Palleka Mak. He is a bright, articulate person with a hunger for learning, and a special interest in poetry. He needs books. He can receive books sent directly from publishers and from retailers such as Amazon. If you would consider sending him a book from a third-part retailer, please use the following address. The booking officer misspelled his last name (Mak) as Mack. As fucked up as it is, if his mail is not sent to the misspelling, it won't go through. Suffolk County Jail Palleka Mack (Mak) 200 Nashua St. Boston, MA 02114 4. This summer I will be leading a weekly poetry workshop for at risk teens at South Boston High. This will take place every Monday afternoon beginning July 11. If any poet has an interest in spending an afternoon with the kids--giving a reading and having a discussion about poetry (theirs and yours) with the kids--please drop me a line at mhoerman@partners.org. The kids in this summer program need friends and mentors. --Michael Hoerman ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 10:21:01 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Rothenberg Subject: Argotist online Interviews Michael Rothenberg MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Argotist online/Jeff Side Interviews Michael Rothenberg, Rothenberg = rants http://www.argotistonline.co.uk/Rothenberg%20interview.htm Michael Rothenberg walterblue@bigbridge.org Big Bridge www.bigbridge.org ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:24:07 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: noah eli gordon Subject: review of Folding Ruler Star & Chapbooks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hiya, just a note about these links up at Jacket: A review of Aaron Kunin's Folding Ruler Star: http://jacketmagazine.com/28/gordon-r-kunin.html A reprint of two chapbook review columns from the Poetry Project Newsletter: http://jacketmagazine.com/28/gordon-chaps.html --NEG ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:07:50 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Nick Bredie Subject: Ilya Bernstein & Abby Walthausen TUESDAY 6/14, 6:00 PM @ BPC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Howdy poetry fans, happy-hour barflies, listless summertime bohemians, and/or any sad & hilarious combination thereof, After a great reading last week with Nick Piombino & Nick Kass Johnson, It's time for the 2nd installment of VACATION HOUSE, Bowery Poetry Club's most conformity-challenged summer reading series. Join us this Tuesday on the short bus of poetic innovation* as we welcome Ilya Bernstein (author of Attention and the Man, UDP, 2003) and Abby Walthausen (chief editor of the Columbia Review and Tsaress of the WBAR airwaves) as they read poesie rhymed & unrhymed. Here are the details: WHAT: Great poetry and 2 FOR 1 DRINKS, all for $3 WHEN: 6-7 pm WHERE: Bowery Poetry Club (Bowery between Bleeker & Houston, across from CBGB) Spread the word and see ya there, Your man on the Bowery Alex Young (c/o Nick Bredie, series co-curators) * "To achieve harmony in bad taste is the height of elegance."--Jean Genet ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:51:27 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: travis ortiz Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?ROVAT=C9:_tonight_in_san_francisco?= In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just wanted to put in a plug for ROVA saxophone quartet tonight playing in San Francisco. They are presenting two amazing pieces -- first set is ROVA with two percussionists and the second set is ROVA with about 13 other musicians. There are also four Stan Brakhage films being screened throughout the evening. And those alone are worth the price of admission. The films are stunningly beautiful. I'd only seen video of the films, never the films themselves projected. There is no comparison. So the music and the films made for one stellar, inspiring evening last night. If you are in the bay area, please go check this out! -travis INFO: www.rova.org Rovat=E9 2005=20 Presented by Rova:Arts in association with the Friend Center for the Arts at the JCCSF and San Francisco Cinematheque. June 10 and 11, 2005 at 8pm Jewish Community Center of San Francisco's Kanbar Hall 3200 California St. (at Presidio), SF $18-20 for tickets call 415.292.1233 or visit the JCC Box Office=20 Rova:Arts is pleased to invite you to a world premiere performance of new large-ensemble work by Rova's Larry Ochs, inspired by the revolutionary filmmaking of Stan Brakhage and performed by Rova with special guests (see below). The program also includes a rare screening of four Stan Brakhage films, hosted by San Francisco Cinematheque.... more on www.rova.org =20 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:31:02 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "David A. Kirschenbaum" Subject: Boog City 26 Now Available Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Please forward --------------- Boog City 26, June 2005 Available featuring: East Village editor Paulette Powell on the life of her friend, the late poe= t and curator Micki Siegel, with a poem by Micki and a tribute poem by Bruce Weber. Our Printed Matter section, edited for the last time by the illustrious Joanna Sondheim, featuring: --Nicholas Leaskou on Alice Jones' Gorgeous Morning Our Music section, edited by Jon Berger, featuring: --Morgan Roddick on The Mattoid and Talk Engine --Where You Should Be picks Cross-Pollination Our Poetry section, edited by Dana Ward, features work from: --Joshua Corey --Drew Gardner --Steven Vincent --Stephanie Young Art editor Brenda Iijima brings us work from artist Pali Kashi of Williamsburg, Brooklyn. ----- And thanks to our copy editor, Joe Bates. ----- Please patronize our advertisers: Bowery Poetry Club * www.bowerypoetry.com Litmus Press * www.litmusoress.org Poets for Peace * www.poetsagainstthewar.org ----- Advertising or donation inquiries can be directed to editor@boogcity.com or by calling 212-842-2664 ----- You can pick up Boog City for free at the following locations: East Village Acme Bar and Grill alt.coffee Angelika Film Center and Caf=E9 Anthology Film Archives Bluestockings Bowery Poetry Club Cafe Pick Me Up CBGB's CB's 313 Gallery C-Note Continental Lakeside Lounge Life Cafe The Living Room Mission Cafe Nuyorican Poets Caf=E9 Pianos The Pink Pony St. Mark's Books St. Mark's Church Shakespeare & Co. Sidewalk Caf=E9 Sunshine Theater Tonic Tower Video Trash and Vaudeville Other parts of Manhattan Hotel Chelsea Poets House in Williamsburg Bliss Cafe Clovis Press Earwax Galapagos Northsix Sideshow Gallery Soundfix/Fix Caf=E9 Spoonbill & Sugartown Supercore Cafe -- David A. Kirschenbaum, editor and publisher Boog City 330 W.28th St., Suite 6H NY, NY 10001-4754 For event and publication information: http://boogcityevents.blogspot.com/ T: (212) 842-BOOG (2664) F: (212) 842-2429 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 21:47:22 +0000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Frank Sherlock Subject: Tsering Wangmo Dhompa Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Looking for Tsering Wangmo Dhompa's email. Please backchannel. Tx, Frank _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 19:10:39 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Craig Allen Conrad Subject: Re: Angry Fruit (dear Micael Tod...one "d" this time) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit dear Michael Tod, it may embarrass some to be told to calm down, but not me. why calm down? why Michael Tod? call me dude all you want. in fact call me Whatever you want. no big deal to me. and also, what on earth are you talking about when saying that Today we queers can't join the army and Tomorrow something else will be taken? you make it sound as if there was Ever a time when fags and dykes were allowed in the military and Then it was taken away? huh? what sense is this? you instruct me not only to calm down but to write a critical paper on the matter. what? we're at War and you want me to pitter patter around with a fucking Paper? no, no to being told to calm down, and No to writing a paper. and i also Completely disagree with your crap about how the argument of letting queers into the military is a separate argument from the war in Iraq. no, no because we Are at war. if they had Any sense they'd Never put a gun in my hands anyway, because i sure as shit wouldn't be pointing it at poor folk of color in far away lands. there is Nothing, absolutely Nothing wrong with being Angry Pissed Off Out Of My Fucking Mind about this war and about stupid queers who are pissing and moaning like a bunch of stupid bitches about NOT being able to KILL people! it's INSANE and you Michael Tod want me to write a fucking term paper on this shit! No! This shit needs to be Ended, and YEs ranting yelling freaking out going crazy is a much much better way to go about it when everyone's more involved with celebrity marriages and pregnancies than the murder that continues day after fucking day In Our Names! Our Tax Dollars Paying For Every Single Fucking Bullet and Don't Think Telling Me To Calm Down Is Going To Make ME Ever Listen To You! This is madness, and so what if I'm Crazy, I can't POSSIBLY Be Crazier Than The Fucking WarMachine in DC!!!!!!! No apologies to you Michael Tod, Kiss my sweet ass! CAConrad _http://PhillySound.blogspot.com_ (http://phillysound.blogspot.com/) "Art, instead of being an object made by one person, is a process set into motion by a group of people. Art's socialized." --John Cage, 1967 ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:21:40 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: mIEKAL aND Subject: A snootful of Nootka Comments: To: Writing and Theory across Disciplines Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed A snootful of Nootka ... pithiest language gets first dictionary Martin Wainwright Tuesday May 31, 2005 The Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/news/story/0,11711,1495759,00.html The world's pithiest language, which combines a lavish vocabulary with a terseness that would have made the Spartans jealous, has been cracked for the first time by a British university project. A debut dictionary of all known words in Nootka, the 5,000-year-old tongue of North American tribes in an island outpost of the Rockies, has been published by a team in Newcastle upon Tyne. Years of interviews with some 300 surviving speakers of the language, almost all now aged over 60, have led to 537 pages of unique and remarkably versatile terms. Entire sentences of meaning can be crammed into very short words. "There are only three basic vowels but 40 consonants and a very complex sound structure when they are spoken," said John Stonham, of Newcastle University, who started collecting Nootka words 20 years ago. His dictionary also draws on the fieldwork of the linguist and anthropologist Edward Sapir, who investigated the tribes' homeland on Vancouver Island between 1910 and 1924. Also known as Nuuchahnulth, which means "along the mountains" - a reference to the speakers' homeland - Nootka's telescoping of words is unparalleled in other languages. The range of alternatives means that a sentence as long as "to wipe the tears from one's eyes with the back of one's hand" is rendered simply "fib". The 150,000 words in the dictionary are divided into 15 subgroups, each a separate variant of the language and most with their own grammar and pronunciation. Apart from academic interest, the drive to collect them has been encouraged by concern that Nootka could be lost for ever without a written record. "I hope the dictionary will help efforts to preserve the language and hence the culture of these societies, as language is intricately bound up with tradition," said Dr Stonham. "There is also a very strong desire by many of the younger people to speak their native tongue. "Noam Chomsky said you can learn about all languages by studying just one. This work will contribute to a better understanding of the structure of English and many of the world's languages, not just those of the Native Americans." Glossary Nuuniiqa: To speak to someone you happen to meet Deehiy: Staying at home observing tribal taboos, so as not to spoil a hunter's luck Kampuucis: High rubber boots (derived in part from English 'gumboot' of 18th-century colonial settlers) Faafaaqsapa: Someone who has mastered Nootka ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:29:57 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mark Weiss Subject: Re: A snootful of Nootka In-Reply-To: <2efb50819a761add258c03483775d9bc@mwt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Interesting. But I bet the Nootkas would be surprised tio learn that they live on "an island outpost of the Rockies." Of course, the Guardian is published on an island outpost of the Alps, which might explain the confusion. Mark At 09:21 AM 6/12/2005, you wrote: >A snootful of Nootka ... pithiest language gets first dictionary > >Martin Wainwright >Tuesday May 31, 2005 >The Guardian > >http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/news/story/0,11711,1495759,00.html > >The world's pithiest language, which combines a lavish vocabulary with >a terseness that would have made the Spartans jealous, has been cracked >for the first time by a British university project. > >A debut dictionary of all known words in Nootka, the 5,000-year-old >tongue of North American tribes in an island outpost of the Rockies, >has been published by a team in Newcastle upon Tyne. > >Years of interviews with some 300 surviving speakers of the language, >almost all now aged over 60, have led to 537 pages of unique and >remarkably versatile terms. Entire sentences of meaning can be crammed >into very short words. > > "There are only three basic vowels but 40 consonants and a very >complex sound structure when they are spoken," said John Stonham, of >Newcastle University, who started collecting Nootka words 20 years ago. >His dictionary also draws on the fieldwork of the linguist and >anthropologist Edward Sapir, who investigated the tribes' homeland on >Vancouver Island between 1910 and 1924. > >Also known as Nuuchahnulth, which means "along the mountains" - a >reference to the speakers' homeland - Nootka's telescoping of words is >unparalleled in other languages. The range of alternatives means that a >sentence as long as "to wipe the tears from one's eyes with the back of >one's hand" is rendered simply "fib". > >The 150,000 words in the dictionary are divided into 15 subgroups, each >a separate variant of the language and most with their own grammar and >pronunciation. Apart from academic interest, the drive to collect them >has been encouraged by concern that Nootka could be lost for ever >without a written record. > >"I hope the dictionary will help efforts to preserve the language and >hence the culture of these societies, as language is intricately bound >up with tradition," said Dr Stonham. "There is also a very strong >desire by many of the younger people to speak their native tongue. > >"Noam Chomsky said you can learn about all languages by studying just >one. This work will contribute to a better understanding of the >structure of English and many of the world's languages, not just those >of the Native Americans." > >Glossary > > Nuuniiqa: To speak to someone you happen to meet > > Deehiy: Staying at home observing tribal taboos, so as not to spoil a >hunter's luck > > Kampuucis: High rubber boots (derived in part from English 'gumboot' >of 18th-century colonial settlers) > > Faafaaqsapa: Someone who has mastered Nootka ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:48:03 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ward Tietz Subject: Re: Content/Form In-Reply-To: <200506070357.j573vQVs009482@mail.1internet.us> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit on 6/7/05 Ken Chen wrote: "I'm wondering if anyone can help me with some critical texts on the content/form division?" Wladyslaw Tatarkiewicz's two-volume History of Aesthetics is the best I've found on this topic. The section on Medieval Aesthetics is especially useful, I think, since it chronicles the use of some markedly different concepts and terms from what we commonly use today. --Ward Tietz ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:02:08 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maria Damon Subject: Re: A snootful of Nootka In-Reply-To: <2efb50819a761add258c03483775d9bc@mwt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 8:21 AM -0500 6/12/05, mIEKAL aND wrote: >A snootful of Nootka ... pithiest language gets first dictionary > >... a >sentence as long as "to wipe the tears from one's eyes with the back of >one's hand" is rendered simply "fib". >"to wipe the tears from one's eyes with the back of one's hand" is >not a sentence. it's a verb. "to deliberately deceive another person >or persons through speech" is rendered in english as "lie." pretty >pithy too. -- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:56:42 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: norman finkelstein Subject: Cultural Society Website Update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_----------=_1118588202109510" MIME-Version: 1.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --_----------=_1118588202109510 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zach Barocas" To: "Barocas Zach" Subject: Cultural Society Website Update Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 02:08:00 -0400 --_----------=_1118588202109510 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="" Return-Path: Delivered-To: finkelstein.norman:lycos.com@mail.lycos.com Received: (qmail 31681 invoked by uid 0); 12 Jun 2005 06:05:58 -0000 X-OB-Received: from unknown (192.168.8.42) by mta7-2.us4.outblaze.com; 12 Jun 2005 06:05:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 31606 invoked by uid 1001); 12 Jun 2005 06:05:58 -0000 X-OB-Delivered-To: finkelstein.norman:lycos.com@mail.lycos.com X-OB-Received: from unknown (208.36.123.38) by as7-3l.us4.outblaze.com; 12 Jun 2005 06:05:57 -0000 X-OB-Received: from unknown (192.168.8.72) by as7-1e.us4.outblaze.com; 12 Jun 2005 06:05:55 -0000 Received: from pop-borzoi.atl.sa.earthlink.net (pop-borzoi.atl.sa.earthlink.net [207.69.195.70]) by spf7-12.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2452F37019 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 06:05:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from user-0cdf4q7.cable.mindspring.com ([24.215.147.71] helo=[192.168.0.3]) by pop-borzoi.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1DhLbC-00031v-00; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 02:05:34 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Zach Barocas Subject: Cultural Society Website Update Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 02:08:00 -0400 To: Barocas Zach X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Hey There, Swing by http://culturalsociety.org & have a look: Norman Finkelstein, Faye George, Barney Kulok, Joseph Massey, & Jen Tynes. Thanks again for your support. As ever, Z. . .. ... .... ... Zach Barocas The Cultural Society | http://culturalsociety.org --_----------=_1118588202109510-- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:40:46 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: UKHIP HOP: Yoshi Interview MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2005/06/41736.php UKHIP HOP: Yoshi Interview UK hip-hop is certainly thriving at the moment, with some excellent artists around dropping dope albums and 12”s dropping all the time. As the UK hip-hop sound emerges and it becomes clear what the bar is, it’s nice with a musician comes along and offers something a bit different and alternative. Cue Brighton-based beatnik rapper-producer, Yoshi. A man of Afghan origin, he cuts an impressive figure in his outlandish clothing and self-assured sense of experimentation. Sampling anything from William Shatner to John Frusciante to gardening shows,..." Yoshi Interview interview 0312 added 09.06.05 words: Nikesh technical: QED UK hip-hop is certainly thriving at the moment, with some excellent artists around dropping dope albums and 12”s dropping all the time. As the UK hip-hop sound emerges and it becomes clear what the bar is, it’s nice with a musician comes along and offers something a bit different and alternative. Cue Brighton-based beatnik rapper-producer, Yoshi. A man of Afghan origin, he cuts an impressive figure in his outlandish clothing and self-assured sense of experimentation. Sampling anything from William Shatner to John Frusciante to gardening shows, he ends up with electronic soundscapes and interesting beats that pave the way for his rhymes about life in Brighton and the confusion and clarity arising from his dual heritage. Having released first album, “From a Western Box”, Yoshi retired to the studio to create something a bit more textured. What he ended up with was the concept album, “Flowers and Trees” (released on 17th May). Essentially, a summery album about childhood and naivety and belief in the cleansing powers of nature, the hippy-ish songs take in everything from folk to dark minimal electronica to straight-up hip-hop and Afghan rhythms. A man of such eclectic tastes, Yoshi needed to be tracked down. So, I met him on Brighton pier, he bought me doughnuts and we talked hip-hop, growing up and pseudo-intellectuals. Introduce yourself to the UKHH.COM audience, what is your mission statement and your favourite flower? Are you some sort of hippy-hopper? YoshiI go by the name of Yoshi. Born in Brighton, living in Brighton, making beats and writing rhymes for 9 years or so now. As far as the mission statement, haha, I don't really have one. I'm more of a lazy bum poet who eases his way through different phases in life. I strive to do something fresh each time that's the only thing I stick to. "Your music is tomorrow’s unknown, known life. I love tomorrow" That's a quote from a Miles Davis record and it's the only thing I keep in mind, I got it printed out on a cheap printer and stuck just behind my mixer on the wall. As for flowers, I don't have a favourite flower man. I just love them all. Cherry Blossoms especially haha. I like learning flower names in different lingos, I can say loads in Japanese, quite a few in Dari (Afghan). I'd like to learn some in Dutch though, I think that would sound interesting. As for me being a "hippy-hopper" haha, yeah, I'm at this point where I'm a bit opened, emotionally, so that's why I give off this hippy-ish vibe that you’re talking about. I was really analytical and logical when I was 16-18, quite anal and specific and demanding about things. Then I think falling in love, and discovering spirituality, looking beyond what you see, that all starts turning you in this direction of being opened. Opening up, like a flower. So that's the process me and my hip-hop have been going through of late. Surviving on, and living through emotions. That's the first way I connect to something- emotionally. That's why when I listen to people like Coldplay, I don't make fun of the simple lyrics or look down on them like these pseudo-intellectuals or snobby music-reviewers. “...I can dig Chris Martin, he's not an idiot, he seems like an intelligent guy; it's just that his lyrics are very understated, same with Seal, I love Seal...” Cos I can dig Chris Martin, he's not an idiot, he seems like an intelligent guy; it's just that his lyrics are very understated, same with Seal, I love Seal. That guy knows what he's doing. And that's what it has become with my hip-hop lyrics, and my musical approach. I say things that may seem obvious sometimes, or cheesy at other times, but if you stop for a second, you'll find the depth, you'll feel how the words can be looked at from many angles and interpreted many ways- so I like that, cos when you feel so much inside- you don't want to go into specifics sometimes. You can't! You need to just let it out in a raw form. Which is probably linked to why I never really dug all these complex, supposedly "clever" metaphors that rappers like Canibus and Eminem used, cos it can feel contrived. The key is balance, which is what I'm learning these days. Tell us the concept and themes behind the album "Flowers and Trees" YoshiMan, 'Flowers & Trees' is a little jewel of a 14-track LP I made, which is all about childhood, positivity, the art of being creative, and what it means to be an artist and ‘an interesting human being’ living in this cocaine-world of boring plans and secure money. Overall it's just a very positive album, and it was made in a spirit of childhood innocence, and that's what it reflects. I hope. I'm a naïve dude, that's what some people often say, which I take as a compliment. Just the other day at my friend’s birthday party I say to my friend, "Won't it be crazy when we're all adults sitting here at birthday parties?" And this other lady who I'd just met started laughing at me because I said "When we're adults" and hey, I'm basically in my mid-20's so I guess that sounds crazy. But I said it to her just as I feel it: I don't consider me an adult. Not in that sense. So that's the main theme of the album… taking, or maybe keeping the essence of what made you young, tapping into it and using it as a grown man in this world. Some things you can't keep… like urine-soaked trousers. But there are so many things we really can learn from these youngsters amongst us. So that's my philosophy! That's my "mission statement" haha! My curriculum veeetie! How successful do you think you were in your mission statement? It's so crazy giving form and structure to the music that comes from you without any thought of form or structure. That's what you have to do afterwards to give it an angle. I don't want to do that though. This is just wicked music. People seem to really like this kind of hip-hop I do, and it sticks in your head and it's catchy, so I think it's successful in that respect. How do you approach production? Well I just have ideas. In the shower I come up with loads, the chorus and lyrics for 'When U see the future' were composed in the shower. I jumped out and e-mailed someone I knew and told them, "this is going to be a wicked song". Walking home at night-time I come up with a lot of ideas too, I like to walk home early after I've met my friends… I'm known for leaving early… because I get to walk through the busiest part of town at the time when everyone's in the club, or on their way in, and I'm on my way out. So that inspires good ideas and lines. “...It's so crazy giving form and structure to the music that comes from you without any thought of form or structure...” Then I just get home, sit down and make the concepts in my head into reality, and watch how they never cease to change and evolve once they're out of my head, and how no idea or concept no matter how good it is, will stay completely the same in your mind. John Coltrane spoke about the same thing with regards to getting the music in his head out into the real world of sound. But anyway, technically I use my computer, I got a mixer, a nice mic, and a Korg Keyboard, two nice monitors and a compressor which doesn't work right now. It's all about what you do with it though, what's in your mind. You talk a lot on the album about your affinity for Brighton. What are your thoughts on the Brighton hip-hop scene? YoshiYes man. I love this town. It's just a town to me, it's my town and I own it. I just can't say enough about it. The beach is responsible for so much of what I do, how I live. You know? I see inner-city kids from London sometimes. I'll never forget these kids a few summers back. I was playing ball on the beach when I saw them; they just went mad when they approached the sea. It's like they'd never seen it before and they just went wild, running around screaming with smiles on their faces they were only like 6 or 7. Brighton's full of out of towners. There's something about being on the edge of the earth that I love though, and likewise something about being inland which I find really suffocating. As for the hip-hop scene down here…? Man it's great. I'm not particularly involved that much, which is a shame. But, I think that's just me… I don't like to stay too involved in one particular scene. I make as much of an effort as I can though and the people are all great here. brightonhiphop.com is a cool thing to have! When I did my show at the one and only Slipjam: B night down here, I was just overwhelmed man. I'd never come into contact with young hip-hop heads in Brighton like that before, and they were so supportive, so cool and open-minded. They were hip-hop haha. And I think that's reflected in all the acts that are doing well down here. I need to make more of an effort to get out to shows and so on. But I'm just not one for events and being out that much if I'm totally honest. There are a lot of elements to your music, like hip-hop, electronica, world music, even folk... do you view yourself as a hip-hop artist? I knew you'd pick up on that, and the folk thing is something I'm really getting into now too, I like Wilco, and Woody Guthrie these days. A lot of that religious folk music from the Depression-era in America is powerful too. Plus Rachid Taha is dope. If you want to talk about an experimental artist from 'the world' haha, check him out… he's clever. But I don't know about the hip-hop thing man, I don't want to say anything where I'll be sounding like a broken record or cheesy… but at the end of the day, I believe that hip-hop can embody all those styles and genres under it. “...Overall it's just a very positive album, and it was made in a spirit of childhood innocence, and that's what it reflects...” Is hip-hop itself a genre? If it is then I want to transcend hip-hop too, and in that case- I'm not a hip-hop artist, I'm more. But if, as I think, hip-hop is something bigger than genres, then I'm comfortable with it, and calling myself a hip-hop artist is fine in that case. It's all about people's different perceptions. But I listen to all music, so I am all music, you know? Man, it's a dirty game… labelling… isn't it? I like to push things though, that's all. I don't like to box things, I like to make things free, and that includes hip-hop, and people’s preconceptions of hip-hop. Mangling and changing things is important sometimes. Where do you hope to take your music in the next few years? YoshiI hope to take it upwards, like a hot air balloon. Then, as I'm up high in the clouds, I hope to take it sideways, all across the Earth, like a hot air balloon. 'All across the universe', like John Lennon said. What new projects you working on? I can't tell you because I don't want to. Haha, I have just completed two exclusive tracks for some cool dudes at http://www.muslimyouth.net who released this massive CD with mostly younger MC's on it, and I was the big daddy of them all haha. It was a wicked experience recording up in London though. So cop that if you're interested to hear more of my stuff. But, my next album I can't tell you about now. Needless to say I never stop, thank God, and I'm working on it everyday. What is your attitude to live shows? I love live shows. My attitude to them is love. Love-live haha. Come and see me if I'm in your area; you'll have a great time because I put on a mad show and I talk to you. Plus I'm tryin' to incorporate a few Beatles covers in between some of my tracks so watch the space! Nothing like a MC who can't sing having the time of his life- that's what I think. Who are your main influences? There are too many bro. These days I have been mostly listening to.... The Beatles, George Harrisons solo stuff, Pharoah Saunders, Miles Davis, John Coltrane.. Joni Mitchell, John Frusciante. At the moment I'm listening to Foo Fighters, but I check for everything old and new man. Mars Volta are nice, Divine Styler, Mos Def. I don't give up on Wu-Tang either man. Rza is timeless. Someone in the hip-hop community should be honouring him cos of how much experimentation and diversity he's brought to hip-hop. The last hip-hop album I heard was the Edan one and I liked it. But I don't know man. Too many to name, plus I sample a lot of them, so I wanna keep it hush-hush, haha. I'm mainly on to other stuff right now though, not listening to that much hip-hop at the moment. “...I never really dug all these complex, supposedly "clever" metaphors that rappers like Canibus and Eminem used, cos it can feel contrived...” Shameless plugs/shout outs/rants? Yoshi - Flowers & Trees LPThanks and praises to God for everything that is. Love to my family in the UK and USA and everyone who smiled at all the funny lines and general sillyness on my album. Mirth, I like the word mirth! My LP is full of mirth! Haha. Peace to everyone else with an open mind and an opened heart. And to those few who I don't speak to anymore, don't forget to remember me... in the jingle-jangle morning... Thanks to you for the interview man, it was funny. “Flower &Trees” and “From a Western Box” are available to buy now. - Nikesh Shukla Related Links: * http://www.nefisa.co.uk/flowers&trees.htm BUY ALBUM HERE... * http://www.nefisa.co.uk * http://www.brightonhiphop.com * http://www.muslimyouth.net http://www.ukhh.com/features/interviews/yoshi/index.html http://bc.indymedia.org/newswire/index.php ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Be a friend to the oppressed and an enemy to the oppressor" \ --Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib (as)\ \ "This mathematical rhythmatical mechanism enhances my wisdom\ of Islam, keeps me calm from doing you harm, when I attack, it's Vietnam"\ --HellRazah\ \ "It's not too good to stay in a white man's country too long"\ --Mutabartuka\ \ "As for we who have decided to break the back of colonialism, \ our historic mission is to sanction all revolts, all desperate \ actions, all those abortive attempts drowned in rivers of blood."\ - Frantz Fanon\ \ "Everyday is Ashura and every land is Kerbala"\ -Imam Ja'far Sadiq\ \ http://scratchcue.blogspot.com/ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html \ http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_comments/766_0_15_0_C/ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/ \ "For African people on the continent the image of Afrikans in America is that of a bunch of heavily armed Black men who only stop fighting each other long enough to put a dollar in Chocolate Thunda's thong at tha strip club."\ --min paul scott --"How MTV Underdeveloped Africa: Pistols, Pimps and Pan Africanism"\ \ M.E.D.I.A.: (MisEducation Destroying Intelligent Afrikans)\ \ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THCO2/ \ } ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 13:06:05 -0700 Reply-To: rsillima@yahoo.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ron Silliman Subject: Richard Eberhart, 1904-2005 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Minnesota native, Pulitzer-winning poet Richard Eberhart dies Associated Press Published June 12, 2005 HANOVER, N.H. — Richard Eberhart, a Pulitzer Prize-winning poet admired for mentoring generations of aspiring writers, died at his home Thursday after a short illness. He was 101. Eberhart, a Minnesota native, wrote more than a dozen books of poetry and verse during a career that spanned more than 60 years. He received nearly every major book award a poet can win, including the Pulitzer, which he received in 1966 for his Selected Poems, 1930-1965. In his 1977 acceptance speech for the National Book Award, he said: "Poetry is a natural energy resource of our country. It has no energy crisis, possessing a potential that will last as long as the country. Its power is equal to that of any country in the world.'' Jay Parini, a former colleague who now teaches English at Middlebury College, called Eberhart "one of the finest American poets.'' "He left behind a dozen poems that I think will be part of the permanent treasury of American poetry,'' Parini said. Eberhart was an intensely lyrical poet, Parini said. Unafraid to ask fundamental questions, his poems explore dramatic issues of life and death. "Poems in a way are spells against death,'' Eberhart once told the Concord Monitor. "They are milestones, to see where you were then from where you are now. To perpetuate your feelings, to establish them. If you have in any way touched the central heart of mankind's feelings, you'll survive.'' Eberhart also was admired for encouraging young poets, including many at Dartmouth College, where he taught for nearly 30 years. Even in his ninth decade, Eberhart would call the school's director of creative writing to say he'd discovered some wonderful poet and to urge her to consider bringing that person to Dartmouth. "He had a largess; it extended to himself, too,'' Cleopatra Mathis said. "He was a person who never tired of talking about poetry, never tired of bringing people who wanted to write poetry into the fold.'' Eberhart was born on April 5, 1904, in Austin, Minn. He discovered his love for poetry as a high school student, when an English teacher asked students to write poems for homework. "When most of the students would bring in one poem the next day, I invariably brought in five or ten,'' he said in a 1997 interview in the Connecticut Review. After a year at the University of Minnesota, Eberhart transferred to Dartmouth, where he studied with Robert Frost. He graduated in 1926, went on to earn bachelor's and master's degrees at St. John's College at Cambridge University and published his first book, A Bravery of Earth, in 1930. Upon returning to the United States, he began studying for his doctorate at Harvard University, but a lack of money ended his studies after one year. He spent the Depression teaching English at a private prep school near Boston, where he met his wife, Helen Elizabeth "Betty'' Butcher. They were married for 52 years until her death in 1993. Although he was old enough to avoid mandatory military service during World War II, he chose to enlist and became a Navy gunnery instructor. After the war he spent seven years in management with Butcher Polish Co. in Boston, a company founded by his wife's family. He taught at several universities and colleges, then returned to Dartmouth in 1956 as a professor of English and poet-in-residence. "Coming to Dartmouth, it was as if he landed in heaven,'' his daughter, Gretchen Cherington, said last year. Being hired to raise the stature of poetry at his alma mater was "as much as he could ever have hoped for,'' she said. Although he officially retired in 1970, he continued to teach part-time until the mid-1980s. Eberhart's survivors include his daughter, son and six grandchildren. A memorial service is set for June 19 at 2 p.m. at Rollins Chapel in Hanover, with a reception to follow at the Top of the Hop. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 13:31:21 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jim Andrews Subject: Re: A snootful of Nootka In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.1.20050612092756.046fdd20@pop.earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Interesting. But I bet the Nootkas would be surprised to learn that they > live on "an island outpost of the Rockies." Of course, the Guardian is > published on an island outpost of the Alps, which might explain > the confusion. > > Mark Ha, yes, Nootka is associated with the west coast of what is now called Vancouver Island, which is on the west coast of Canada, and the northwest portion of the Olympic Peninsula in the state of Washington. http://www.languagegeek.com/wakashan/nuuchahnulth.html suggests there are somewhere between 200 and 500 speakers of the language. ja ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 16:30:00 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Dan Wilcox Subject: Third Thursday Open Mic, Albany NY Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed the Poetry Motel Foundation =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0presents Third Thursday Open Mic for Poets at theLark Street Bookshop 215 Lark Street, Albany, NY (near State St.) Thursday, June 16 7:00 sign up; 7:30 start Featured Poet:=A0Thom Francis Thom is one of the fine folks who are instrumental in bringing=20 AlbanyPoets.com to you, & who brought to you the hugely successful (&=20 fun) Albany WordFest 2005.=A0Check out the poetry calendar & lots of = over=20 poesy-related stuff at www.albanypoets.com $3.00 donation.=A0Bring a poem to read, bring a friend, browse the = books,=20 buy some books, be cool.=A0 Your host:=A0Dan Wilcox, every Third Thursday. =A0 # ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:10:58 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mary Jo Malo Subject: snooty MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _http://www.native-languages.org/nootka.htm_ (http://www.native-languages.org/nootka.htm) _http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/N/No/Nootka.htm_ (http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/N/No/Nootka.htm) _http://www.lib.umt.edu/guide/lang/wakashah.htm_ (http://www.lib.umt.edu/guide/lang/wakashah.htm) etc. etc. etc. Mary ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:33:08 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ruth Lepson Subject: Re: Creeley's Ligeia In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050610160445.04ade140@writing.upenn.edu> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi Charles B, Thank you so much for taking the time to tell all this. I will dip into Poe & dear Bob's libretto & the Granary Books book. All best, Ruth Lepson On 6/11/05 12:32 AM, "Charles Bernstein" wrote: > Bob Creeley wrote the libretto for Ligeia in 1992, prompted by a composer > then studying in Rochester. (They didn't know each other very well.) Bob > proceeded to write the libretto according to his own always considerable > lights, inspired by the Poe story. The libretto didn't turn out to be > something on which the composer wanted to work. That was OK with Bob, > though, since he was happy with his text as it was and content to imagine > some future setting. > > He ends his note to the Granary edition by saying: "It was my own thoughts > that such 'music' might be complexly realized in this modest translation of > Poe's classic story to the inevitably transforming stage." > > The libretto was first published in TO magazine (from Philadelphia) in the > Summer 1995 issue. > > This is what is on the Granary Books web site (a few coding errors > corrected) -- > http://www.granarybooks.com -- > > Robert Creeley and Alex Katz, Ligeia: A Libretto. New York. Granary Books. > 1996. 13 1/4" x 6 1/2"; Letterpress. 135 copies. 35 hors commerce, 100 for > sale. > > Originally published in 1838, Edgar Allan Poe's engaging short story Ligeia > "invites a diversity of readings and one feels confidence in making a > determination for one's own necessary uses" (Robert Creeley). Here, the > material has been translated into an operatic context, Mr. Creeley's first > libretto. > > He excerpts from Poe's narrative in brief: "the narrator/hero meets the > exceptional Ligeia, is captivated by her, marries her, and becomes entirely > influenced by her commanding powers of intellect and beauty. Then she dies > harshly, resistingly. And then, after a brief time, the hero remarries, and > the cycle is almost immediately repeated without seeming resistance, which > leads to the intense conclusion, the recreation of Ligeia in the corpse of > the Lady Rowena." (from "A Note on Ligeia" by Mr. Creeley.) > > Ligeia: A Libretto makes use of the emphasized pattern of Poe's narrative. > His vocabulary, rhythms and rhetorical emphasis also inform Mr. Creeley's > compositional strategy. Ultimately, however, one is left with a new and > unique work here beautifully transformed for the stage. > > Alex Katz has made the set design drawing for staging and costume toward > the eventual production of Ligeia. Designed and printed by Philip Gallo. > Bound by Jill Jevne. Signed by Mr. Creeley and Mr. Katz. > > ISBN: 1-887123-11-3. $500. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:41:52 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Wanda Phipps Subject: Poetry on WBAI & at the Pillow Cafe Lounge MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hey, catch me, Wanda Phipps, doing poetry spots on WBAI 99.5FM on Wed., June 15th between 10-11am on Deena Kolbart's City Watch Show and come check out my performance (poetry and music) with guitarist Stephen B. Antonakos, 8-9 pm at Pillow Cafe-Lounge, 372 Myrtle Avenue (between Adelphi & Clermont) (718) 246-2711 6-7: Sapphire 7-8: Daniella Gioseffi 9-11: singer/songwriter Lisa Roma (take G train to Clinton/Washington or N/R train to Dekalb or B-38 Bus to Clermont & Lafayette or B-54 Bus to Adelphi and Myrtle) it's all part of Leaves of Grass: Brooklyn Celebrates the 150th Anniversary of Walt Whitman's masterpiece--A Celebration of Poets and Poetry in Fort Greene Park and along Myrtle Avenue see the website for details of the whole event which goes from 11am-11pm--ALL FREE http://www.fortgreenepark.org -- Wanda Phipps Wake-Up Calls: 66 Morning Poems my first full-length book of poetry has just been released by Soft Skull Press available at the Soft Skull site: http://www.softskull.com/detailedbook.php?isbn=1-932360-31-X and on Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/193236031X/ref=rm_item and don't forget to check out my website MIND HONEY http://www.mindhoney.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:38:36 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Baraban Subject: Creeley/Poe/Bernstein/Lawrence/Williams/Dickinson/bells bells bells bells bells! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yes, it was wonderful that Charles B. told us of the story behind Creeley's Ligeia libretto. If Creeley was willing to work on this text without knowing the composer very well, and wasn't so upset when the composing of the music didn't happen, it sounds like he was very pleased to be colloraborating with POE. I think as many of us as possible should make Poe's works part of our summer reading, and report back in say, September. The different visions people have of this elusive literary figure are quite intriguing. On the surface, D.H. Lawrence's conception of Poe (in Studies in Classic American Literature) as a sufferer/diagnostician writing from within a realm of decadence seems pleasingly consonant with one's niave reactions to EAP's works, though we know, of course that Poe was not the forever zonked-out sadsack seer that folklore pictures, but was very much a busy, critically-acute professional, as emphasized by W.C. Williams in the Poe chapter of _In The American Grain_. I was surprised to see Charles B., in the recent Creeley piece, place Poe amongst his list of people whose writings are in the middle between Whitman's "expansive, sexually explicit, and exuberant" works and Dickinson's "philosphical, hermetic, introspective" poems. Poe is expansive and exuberant, I wondered? And what is the sexuality in his writing except incest, and men's love of very young women, and the morbid desire to completely know the other that Lawrence notes? But as far as exuberance goes, maybe one reason I've never thought of this quality in relation to Poe is that I haven't taken "The Bells" seriously (as part of not taking the poems in general very seriously). But "Bells" is not so bad at all. I sign off with the beginning: Hear the sledges with the bells - Silver bells! What a world of merriment their melody foretells! How they tinkle, tinkle, tinkle, In the icy air of night! While the stars that oversprinkle All the heavens, seem to twinkle With a crystalline delight; Keeping time, time, time, In a sort of Runic rhyme, To the tintinnabulation that so musically wells From the bells, bells, bells, bells, Bells, bells, bells - From the jingling and the tinkling of the bells. --- Ruth Lepson wrote: > Hi Charles B, > > Thank you so much for taking the time to tell all > this. I will dip into Poe > & dear Bob's libretto & the Granary Books book. > > All best, > > Ruth Lepson > > __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:32:48 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Simon DeDeo Subject: rhubarb is susan updates MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear all, New updates to Rhuarb is Susan are now available, including reviews of Dana Ward (dusie journal), T. E. Ballard (Tryst), a politically-correct Summer Reading List, and some notes on the "blog-within-a-blog." I encourage you to stop by and contribute your own thoughts. http://rhubarbissusan.blogspot.com/ http://rhubarbissusan.blogspot.com/2005/06/dana-ward-to-my-neighbors.html http://rhubarbissusan.blogspot.com/2005/06/t-e-ballard-butchers-daughter.html http://rhubarbissusan.blogspot.com/2005/06/summer-reading-list.html http://rhubarbissusan.blogspot.com/2005/06/blog-within-blog.html Thanks for tuning in, and do spread the word about Rhubarb is Susan! Sincerely, Simon ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:35:59 +0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: derekrogerson Organization: derekrogerson.com Subject: [job] Distinguished Visiting Poet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Location: Chicago, Illinois Columbia College Chicago seeks a poet to fill an annual Distinguished Visiting Poet position for Spring Semester 2006. The position consists of a two-course load (in the graduate and undergraduate poetry programs), a public lecture/reading, and the opportunity to participate in the life of the programs and department. Very competitive salary. The ideal candidate will have a national reputation, a minimum of two books from nationally recognized presses, and a record of teaching excellence. Though we are looking for candidates for Spring 2006, please indicate in your letter if you'd like to be considered for the same position in future Spring semesters, as we will keep the materials of interested candidates on file. Please submit a letter of interest, curriculum vitae, short sample of recent work, and names, addresses, and phone numbers for 3 references to: Arielle Greenberg English Department Columbia College Chicago 600 South Michigan Avenue Chicago, Illinois 60605 Equal Opportunity Employer M/F/D/V ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:00:40 -0700 Reply-To: rsillima@yahoo.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ron Silliman Subject: Silliman's Blog MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/ RECENT POSTS Online vs. print poets – is there a difference? Some recent online publications The six functions of language & the meaning of meaning Thomas A. Clark – An Objectivist in Scotland How books represent poetry: Jennifer Moxley, Ronald Johnson et al Open Field: 30 Contemporary Canadian Poets How to read Clark Coolidge Peter O’Leary on Ronald Johnson Selecting Zukofsky: editing the short poems Selecting Zukofsky: Distilling “A” William Shakespeare, post avant Which major romantic poet would you be (if you were a major romantic poet)? Some notes on community & other responses to Jonathan Mayhew’s questions http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:07:48 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Simon DeDeo Subject: [job] distinguishing visiting poet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Location: Chicago, Illinois Columbia College Chicago seeks a poet to fill an annual Distinguishing Visiting Poet position for Spring Semester 2006. The position consists in making distinctions between different kinds of objects, persons, places and events. Very competitive salary. The ideal candidate will have a national reputation, a minimum of two books from nationally recognized presses, and a record of distinguishing things that may even on the surface of it be indistinguishable. Though we are looking for candidates for Spring 2006, please indicate in your letter if you'd like to be considered for the same position in future Spring semesters, as we will keep the materials of interested candidates on file. Please submit a letter of interest, curriculum vitae, short sample of recent work, names, addresses, and phone numbers for 3 references, and a brief essay making a distinction where previously there was none to: Arielle Greenberg English Department Columbia College Chicago 600 South Michigan Avenue Chicago, Illinois 60605 Equal Opportunity Employer M/F/D/V ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:26:40 -0400 Reply-To: Mike Kelleher Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mike Kelleher Organization: Just Buffalo Literary Center Subject: JUST BUFFALO E-NEWSLETTER 06-13-06 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FREQUENT FLIER MILES NEEDED Do you have frequent flier miles you aren't using? Donate them to Just Buffalo. We need them all year round to help bring authors from out of town into the city, but we are especially in need of miles to bring authors to town for the Harlem Book Fair. Donations are tax-deductible and eternal gratitude-collectible. Call us at 832-5400 to contribute. HARLEM BOOK FAIR BUFFALO The Harlem Book Fair (HBF), will debut in Buffalo July 8-9, 2005 as part of Buffalo's Niagara Movement Centennial Celebration. The two-day event will open with a Friday evening Harlem Renaissance-Themed Gala. The book fair is scheduled for Saturday from 10:00 am - 6:30 pm in downtown Buffalo. The Book Fair is Free and open to all. There will be exhibit booths, panel discussions, book selling, storytelling, readings, a children forum, spoken word poets, music and opportunities to meet and greet celebrity authors, including Buffalo's own Ishmael Reed, Ruben Santiago Hudson, Walter Dean Myers, Virginia Deberry, and Dr. Ian Smith. For more information and applications log on to http://www.hbfb.org or call 716 - 881 - 6066. Harlem Book Fair Buffalo Committee: Just Buffalo Literary Center, Black Capital Network, Buffalo Convention and Visitors Bureau, Buffalo & Erie County Public Library, Melonya Johnson, Harlem Book Fair /QBR Book Review. HARLEM BOOKFAIR WORKSHOP LIVING YOUR WRITING DREAMS: AN INSIDER'S TAKE ON BECOMING A WRITER, with Alan Steinberg Friday July 8th 1-4:30 pm Location: Market Arcade, 617 Main Street, 3rd Floor Conference Room Cost: $95 / $80 Just Buffalo Members Featuring best-selling author/journalist/screenwriter ALAN STEINBERG, whose work has been featured in print (New York Times, USA TODAY, Washington Post, People, Inside Sports); on TV (Donahue, Larry King, Dateline, Inside Edition, Leno, Letterman); and radio nationwide. OPEN READINGS Carrie Spadter Thursday, June 16, 7 P.M. The Book Corner, 1801 Main St., Niagara Falls, NY Kastle Brill Sunday, June 19, 7 P.M. Rust Belt Books, 202 Allen Street, Buffalo, NY 10 slots for open readers. Sign-ups at 6:30 p.m. IF ALL OF BUFFALO READ THE SAME BOOK This year's title, The Invention of Solitude, by Paul Auster, is available at area bookstores. All books purchased at Talking Leaves Books will benefit Just Buffalo. Paul Auster will visit Buffalo October 5-6. A reader's discussion guide is available on the Just Buffalo website. Presented in conjunction with Hodgson Russ LLP, WBFO 88.7 FM and Talking Leaves Books. For sponsorship opportunities (and there are many), please contact Laurie Torrell or Mike Kelleher at 832-5400. COMMUNITY LITERARY EVENTS RUST BELT BOOKS: COLLOQUIAL THEATRE Friday & Saturday 17th & 18th maybe maybe not happening give a call if wondering - 885-9535 UNSUBSCRIBE If you would like to unsubscribe from this list, just say so and you will be immediately removed. _______________________________ Mike Kelleher Artistic Director Just Buffalo Literary Center 2495 Main St., Ste. 512 Buffalo, NY 14214 716.832.5400 716.832.5710 (fax) www.justbuffalo.org mjk@justbuffalo.org ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:22:02 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Brian Clements Subject: Performance at Medicine Show MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >The Republic of Poetry > A Suite of Short Verse Plays, Mostly Comic, > About Love & War & some places in between > Written for this event (mostly) by living poets >=20 > The Plays > The Mating Reason by Bayard > If You See Something Say Something by Chris Brandt > Romantics in Cyberspace by Terri Carrion & Michael Rothenberg > Elephant Date, In Syracuse, & The Translator by Brian Clements > Pituitary Theft by Denise Duhamel > For Chile by Martin Espada > Hippolyta by Vincent Katz > The Tale of the Guru by Roy Lisker > Salient Mourners by Filip Marinovich > Trial Impressions by Harry Mathews > More Moorish Disasters by Simon Pettet > Seven Veils by Miriam Sagan > Belinda and Mark by Bruce Weber, Bob Hart & Joanne PaganoWeber > The Heavenly Storm by Arnold Weinstein >=20 > Starring > Alex Bilu, Jasha Bilan, Mark Dempsey, Mark Gering, Jason Alan Griffin*, > Beth Griffith, Kirt Harding, Amanda Ifrah, Monica Lynch*, Ward Nixon*, > kip Potharas*, Ken Scudder, Lisa Shred, Ayanna Siverls, Barbara Vann >=20 > Directed by > Barbara Vann, Stelios Manolakakis,=20 > Linda Lutes, Mark Dempsey, Nicole Colbert, Aaron Beall >=20 > Design by Uta Bekaia, Patricia Cronin, Knox Martin >=20 > $15/ Tickets at www.TheaterMania.com or 212 352-3101 > TDF, Discounts, Group Rates: 212 262-4216 > Not every play at every performance. Phone or see web for info. > June 9-26, 2005 ? Thurs. Fri. Sat. Sun. at 8 PM >=20 > June 17 & 18 the performance will include a song cycle by Morton=20 Feldman, > to words by Frank O'Hara sung by Beth Griffith >=20 > On Sundays at 6:30 there will be hour-long verse play readings of works > by Tom Savage (June 19), and Rowell Kaufman (June 26) >=20 > Funded in part by NYSCA, Axe-Houghton Foundation, Puffin Foundation >=20 > Medicine Show > 212 262-4216=20 > 549 West 52nd Street NYC 10019 > e: medicineshowtheater@juno.com/ web: medicineshowtheatre.org >=20 > Medicine Show > Celebrating Our 35th Season > in > The Republic of Poetry >=20 > * AEA >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > .=20 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:27:22 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Gloria Frym Subject: Re: Creeley/Poe/Bernstein/Lawrence/Williams/Dickinson/bells bells bells bells bells! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd like to add that Williams' essay on Poe seems to me one of the most important. He reads Poe through Modernist psychological and political eyes--posits that Poe both records and anticipates American alienation from self and body, both physical and spiritual, the emotional terror of a vast unknown continent on its way to Westward Ho (including shopping malls!) and empire. Whatever his intention, some of Poe's greatest stories now morph back into physical parallels of 20th century horrors ("The Masque of the Red Death," easily reads as AIDS), and 21st century government sanctioned physical torture. "Ligeia," too, is a ghostly character, whose embodiment only becomes real and beloved in death. As American Fascism promotes the culture of war, Poe's "darkness" feels all too realistic these days. Also, Poe was America's first real literary critic. His standards, as revealed in his numerous reviews of his contemporaries, were demanding and orthodox, akin to Clement Greenberg's in visual art. And his short stories seem to me a poet's prose. There are no real characters in Poe's so-called tales of ratiocination. Characters are used in the service of the text, and dimensions of a unnamed single speaker, fairly incapable of conventional fictional strategies. Lastly, that Whitman was one of the few who attended Poe's funeral has some significance. The American Optimist pays homage to the American Pessimist, who is Noir as America. Poe dies long before the 1855 first edition of Leaves of Grass. Both poets are groping for physical, intellectual and aesthetic "American" morals and aesthetics that might counter the puritanical (now morphed into fundamentalist) normative standards. As for Dickinson, I don't agree that her work is hermetic. The work is often elliptical and dense, but not without entry, providing the reader who can accept multiplicity of "meaning", indeterminacy, sound, pun, and other now familiar literary devices, with pleasure. The work both doubts and confirms. She thought, as she said, "New Englandly." And rebelled grandly. As did Creeley. And were Called Back,as it were, differently. Not wanting to create a reductive argument about either, I suggest that each are various and accessible and difficult and yet, more interrogating, philosophical, domestic, and finally local rather than hermetic in their poetics. Gloria Frym ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Baraban" To: Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:38 PM Subject: Creeley/Poe/Bernstein/Lawrence/Williams/Dickinson/bells bells bells bells bells! > Yes, it was wonderful that Charles B. told us of the > story behind Creeley's Ligeia libretto. If Creeley > was willing to work on this text without knowing the > composer very well, and wasn't so upset when the > composing of the music didn't happen, it sounds like > he was very pleased to be colloraborating with POE. > > I think as many of us as possible should make Poe's > works part of our summer reading, and report back in > say, September. The different visions people have of > this elusive literary figure are quite intriguing. On > the surface, D.H. Lawrence's conception of Poe (in > Studies in Classic American Literature) as a > sufferer/diagnostician writing from within a realm of > decadence seems pleasingly consonant with one's niave > reactions to EAP's works, though we know, of course > that Poe was not the forever zonked-out sadsack seer > that folklore pictures, but was very much a busy, > critically-acute professional, as emphasized by W.C. > Williams in the Poe chapter of _In The American > Grain_. > > I was surprised to see Charles B., in the recent > Creeley piece, place Poe amongst his list of people > whose writings are in the middle between Whitman's > "expansive, sexually explicit, and exuberant" works > and Dickinson's "philosphical, hermetic, > introspective" poems. Poe is expansive and exuberant, > I wondered? And what is the sexuality in his writing > except incest, and men's love of very young women, and > the morbid desire to completely know the other that > Lawrence notes? > > But as far as exuberance goes, maybe one reason I've > never thought of this quality in relation to Poe is > that I haven't taken "The Bells" seriously (as part of > not taking the poems in general very seriously). But > "Bells" is not so bad at all. I sign off with the > beginning: > > Hear the sledges with the bells - > Silver bells! > What a world of merriment their melody foretells! > How they tinkle, tinkle, tinkle, > In the icy air of night! > While the stars that oversprinkle > All the heavens, seem to twinkle > With a crystalline delight; > Keeping time, time, time, > In a sort of Runic rhyme, > To the tintinnabulation that so musically wells > From the bells, bells, bells, bells, > Bells, bells, bells - > From the jingling and the tinkling of the bells. > > > --- Ruth Lepson wrote: > >> Hi Charles B, >> >> Thank you so much for taking the time to tell all >> this. I will dip into Poe >> & dear Bob's libretto & the Granary Books book. >> >> All best, >> >> Ruth Lepson >> >> > > > > __________________________________ > Discover Yahoo! > Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it > out! > http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:02:21 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Chris Stroffolino Subject: Re: Creeley/Poe/Riding/Lawrence/Williams/Dickinson/bells bells bells bells bells! Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Is anybody here familiar with Laura Riding's wickedly brilliant (and witty) taking to task of the cult of "MONSIEUR POE" as she saw it being formulated in the 1920s? Just curious what Poe fans and/or Poe skeptics might think of that.... C ---------- >From: Gloria Frym >To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >Subject: Re: Creeley/Poe/Bernstein/Lawrence/Williams/Dickinson/bells bells bells bells bells! >Date: Mon, Jun 13, 2005, 8:27 AM > > I'd like to add that Williams' essay on Poe seems to me one of the most > important. He reads Poe through Modernist psychological and political > eyes--posits that Poe both records and anticipates American alienation from > self and body, both physical and spiritual, the emotional terror of a vast > unknown continent on its way to Westward Ho (including shopping malls!) and > empire. Whatever his intention, some of Poe's greatest stories now morph > back into physical parallels of 20th century horrors ("The Masque of the Red > Death," easily reads as AIDS), and 21st century government sanctioned > physical torture. > "Ligeia," too, is a ghostly character, whose embodiment only becomes real > and beloved in death. As American Fascism promotes the culture of war, > Poe's "darkness" feels all too realistic these days. > Also, Poe was America's first real literary critic. His standards, as > revealed in his numerous reviews of his contemporaries, were demanding and > orthodox, akin to Clement Greenberg's in visual art. > And his short stories seem to me a poet's prose. There are no real > characters in Poe's so-called tales of ratiocination. Characters are used > in the service of the text, and dimensions of a unnamed single speaker, > fairly incapable of conventional fictional strategies. > Lastly, that Whitman was one of the few who attended Poe's funeral has > some significance. The American Optimist pays homage to the American > Pessimist, who is Noir as America. Poe dies long before the 1855 first > edition of Leaves of Grass. Both poets are groping for physical, > intellectual and aesthetic "American" morals and aesthetics that might > counter the puritanical (now morphed into fundamentalist) normative > standards. > As for Dickinson, I don't agree that her work is hermetic. The work is > often elliptical and dense, but not without entry, providing the reader who > can > accept multiplicity of "meaning", indeterminacy, sound, pun, > and other now familiar literary devices, > with pleasure. The work both doubts and confirms. She thought, as she > said, "New Englandly." > And rebelled grandly. As did Creeley. And were Called Back,as it were, > differently. Not wanting to create a reductive argument about either, I > suggest that each are various and accessible and difficult and yet, more > interrogating, philosophical, domestic, and finally local rather than > hermetic in their poetics. > > Gloria Frym > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Baraban" > To: > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:38 PM > Subject: Creeley/Poe/Bernstein/Lawrence/Williams/Dickinson/bells bells bells > bells bells! > > >> Yes, it was wonderful that Charles B. told us of the >> story behind Creeley's Ligeia libretto. If Creeley >> was willing to work on this text without knowing the >> composer very well, and wasn't so upset when the >> composing of the music didn't happen, it sounds like >> he was very pleased to be colloraborating with POE. >> >> I think as many of us as possible should make Poe's >> works part of our summer reading, and report back in >> say, September. The different visions people have of >> this elusive literary figure are quite intriguing. On >> the surface, D.H. Lawrence's conception of Poe (in >> Studies in Classic American Literature) as a >> sufferer/diagnostician writing from within a realm of >> decadence seems pleasingly consonant with one's niave >> reactions to EAP's works, though we know, of course >> that Poe was not the forever zonked-out sadsack seer >> that folklore pictures, but was very much a busy, >> critically-acute professional, as emphasized by W.C. >> Williams in the Poe chapter of _In The American >> Grain_. >> >> I was surprised to see Charles B., in the recent >> Creeley piece, place Poe amongst his list of people >> whose writings are in the middle between Whitman's >> "expansive, sexually explicit, and exuberant" works >> and Dickinson's "philosphical, hermetic, >> introspective" poems. Poe is expansive and exuberant, >> I wondered? And what is the sexuality in his writing >> except incest, and men's love of very young women, and >> the morbid desire to completely know the other that >> Lawrence notes? >> >> But as far as exuberance goes, maybe one reason I've >> never thought of this quality in relation to Poe is >> that I haven't taken "The Bells" seriously (as part of >> not taking the poems in general very seriously). But >> "Bells" is not so bad at all. I sign off with the >> beginning: >> >> Hear the sledges with the bells - >> Silver bells! >> What a world of merriment their melody foretells! >> How they tinkle, tinkle, tinkle, >> In the icy air of night! >> While the stars that oversprinkle >> All the heavens, seem to twinkle >> With a crystalline delight; >> Keeping time, time, time, >> In a sort of Runic rhyme, >> To the tintinnabulation that so musically wells >> From the bells, bells, bells, bells, >> Bells, bells, bells - >> From the jingling and the tinkling of the bells. >> >> >> --- Ruth Lepson wrote: >> >>> Hi Charles B, >>> >>> Thank you so much for taking the time to tell all >>> this. I will dip into Poe >>> & dear Bob's libretto & the Granary Books book. >>> >>> All best, >>> >>> Ruth Lepson >>> >>> >> >> >> >> __________________________________ >> Discover Yahoo! >> Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. 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From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: FBI Whistleblower: White Supremacists Are Major Domestic Terrorist Threat MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2005/06/41786.php FBI Whistleblower: White Supremacists Are Major Domestic Terrorist Threat Los Angeles in 1992... the aftermath of the racial unrest following the Rodney King police beating... And the white supremacist groups were attempting to take advantage of that situation to spark a race war. So they were preparing for the race war by manufacturing machine guns and explosives, and one of the cells that we got into was actually already involved in a bombing campaign, ...we were able to... stop ongoing conspiracies to bomb synagogues and churches that were attended prominently by African Americans." -- "Neo-Nazi ideology is also a leading influence in rising school violence," Monday, June 13th, 2005 FBI Whistleblower: White Supremacists Are Major Domestic Terrorist Threat ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We speak with Mike German, an ex-FBI agent who resigned from the agency last year in protest of what he saw as continuing failures in the FBI counter terrorism program. German had worked for years going under cover to infiltrate domestic terrorist organizations like white supremacist skinhead groups and anti-government militias. [includes rush transcript] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ While terrorism in the U.S has been synonymous with Al Qaeda, for most of this country's history, domestic white supremacist organizations like the Klu Klux Klan were the greatest terrorism threat. Some believe they still may be today. Today, In Mississippi, the trial begins of Edgar Ray Killen in connection to the murder of three civil rights workers 41 years ago. Michael Schwerner, Andrew Goodman and James Chaney -- were shot dead allegedly by the Ku Klux Klan. And in Washington, the Senate is scheduled to vote today on a resolution to apologize for its failure to enact anti-lynching legislation. An estimated 4,700 people -- mostly African-Americans -- were lynched between 1882 and 1968. Another whistleblower just took on the FBI's approach to domestic terrorism. Mike German worked for the agency for more than 15 years and quit last year. On June 5th, he wrote an editorial in the Washington Post advocating that law enforcement pay more attention to organizations that produce so-called lone wolf extremists like Timothy McVeigh who was executed for the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing and Eric Rudolph who planted bombs at the Atlanta Olympics, abortion clinics and a gay nightclub. German writes that "lone extremists pose a challenge for law enforcement because they are difficult to predict. It's like searching every haystack for a needle. Perhaps we'd have better luck if we paid more attention to the needle factories." * Mike German, ex-FBI agent who resigned from the agency last year in protest of what he saw as continuing failures in the FBI counter terrorism program. German had worked for years going under cover to infiltrate domestic terrorist organizations like white supremacist skinhead groups and anti-government militias. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ RUSH TRANSCRIPT AMY GOODMAN: Today, we're joined by an ex-F.B.I. agent, Mike German, a whistleblower. He resigned from the agency last year in protest of what he saw as continuing failures in the F.B.I. counterterrorism program. German had worked for years going undercover to infiltrate domestic terrorist organizations like white supremacist skinhead groups and anti-government militias. On June 5, he wrote an editorial in The Washington Post advocating law enforcement pay more attention to groups that produce so-called lone wolf extremists like Timothy McVeigh, executed for the Oklahoma City bombing, and Eric Rudolph who planted the bombs at the Atlanta Olympics and women's health clinics, a gay night club, as well. German writes, (quote), "Lone extremists pose a challenge for law enforcement because they're difficult to predict. It's like searching every haystack for a needle. Perhaps we'd have better luck if we paid more attention to the needle factories." He joins us now in our D.C. studio. Welcome to Democracy Now! MIKE GERMAN: Thank you, Amy. How are you? AMY GOODMAN: It's very good to have you with us. Well, can you talk first about why you quit and what you see as the great domestic threats today, terroristic threats in this country? MIKE GERMAN: Well, I was -- had been involved in counterterrorism operations for about a dozen years. And after 9/11, of course, the public became aware of how dysfunctional the counterterrorism program was, but there were problems that I knew about for years, so when things weren't changing and the F.B.I. wasn't fixing the internal problems that were causing the breakdowns in communication that actually led to 9/11, if you read the 9/11 Commission Report, I felt it was my obligation to come forward and report that there were continuing failures. AMY GOODMAN: Mike German, can you talk specifically about what you wanted changed? MIKE GERMAN: Well, I was involved in specific investigations, and I'm not allowed to talk about those investigations, particularly, but basically, if you look at the 9/11 Commission Report, kind of the diversion was that it was a problem of intelligence, but it really wasn't a problem of intelligence. You had agents in Phoenix who gathered the intelligence, who were aware of one portion of the plot. You had agents in Minneapolis who were aware of another portion of the plot. You had agents in New York who were aware of another portion of the plot. And they all wanted to continue their investigation. The agents on the street are doing their job, they're collecting the information. It's when they report that information to headquarters and request authority to continue their investigation, and that's where the breakdown was. And basically, that was happening in my post-9/11 cases is that that same mid-level bureaucracy was hampering counterterrorism efforts. So that's why I reported it to Congress. AMY GOODMAN: Can you talk about the groups that you think need to be watched in this country? And if you can give us a thumbnail sketch of the domestic terrorism attacks most famous one, of course, Oklahoma City bombing, 1995, Timothy McVeigh. MIKE GERMAN: Right. Basically 19 -- that was actually in 1995, Timothy McVeigh's bombing in Oklahoma City. And, you know, what that was was their demonstration of the abilities that they had, and clearly, they can do a lot damage in this country. Any extremist group can do damage. And I think that a lot of the problem right now is we're in this kind of area where we're categorizing who's the greater threat. Well, to me, the guy with the bomb today is the greatest threat, and whether he is a white supremacist terrorist, an Islamic terrorist or an eco-terrorist doesn't really matter to me. My job as a criminal investigator out on the street is to try to stop the threat that's there today. And if we do this sort of ranking where we're only going to pay attention to eco-terrorists because they're the number one threat or Islamic terrorists because they're the bigger threat, we're probably going to drop the ball in one of the other areas. So I think that the mission is let the agents on the street find out what's happening, but we have to fix that mid-level management area so we can manage the information that they're providing. AMY GOODMAN: How do you infiltrate a group? Can you talk about your -- what you can talk about, your own history? MIKE GERMAN: Well, I was involved in a case in Los Angeles in 1992, and in that case, there was a cooperating witness that introduced me into the group. And then I was involved in a second case in northwest Washington in 1996, and that also involved a different cooperating witness, but it was introductions into the group through public citizens, citizens who saw a problem and wanted to help law enforcement protect the community. And once they introduced me in, then it was up to me to try to figure out what -- who the criminals were within the group and what the criminal activity was, and gather evidence of that criminal activity. AMY GOODMAN: Can you talk more specifically, like Los Angeles, what exactly what that group was doing? MIKE GERMAN: Well, in Los Angeles there were actually a number of different groups that we had had gotten into, and they were white supremacist groups. Los Angeles in 1992, of course, the community was suffering after -- the aftermath of the racial unrest following the Rodney King police beating, so there was a lot of racial animosity in the city. And the white supremacist groups were attempting to take advantage of that situation to spark a race war. So they were preparing for the race war by manufacturing machine guns and explosives, and one of the cells that we got into was actually already involved in a bombing campaign, and we were able to solve those bombings and recover more explosive devices and stop ongoing conspiracies to bomb synagogues and churches that were attended prominently by African Americans. AMY GOODMAN: Looking at the piece that you did in The Washington Post, "Behind the Lone Terrorist, a Pack Mentality," you talk about every once in a while, a follower of these movements bursts violently into our world with deadly consequences. McVeigh, Eric Rudolph, Buford Furrow, Jr., Paul Hill, to name just a few, all convicted murderers, identified as lone extremists, the most difficult terrorists to stop, because they act independently from any organization. Or do they? You write, "Tim McVeigh seemed able to find a militia meeting wherever he went. He was linked to militia groups in Arizona and Michigan, white supremacist groups in Oklahoma and Missouri, and at gun shows he sold copies of The Turner Diaries, the racist novel written by the founder of a neo-Nazi organization. No one finds such groups by accident." You talk about Eric Rudolph who planted the bombs at the Atlanta Olympics, two abortion clinics, gay nightclub, grew up in the Christian Identity Movement, which identifies whites as God's chosen people and encourages the faithful to follow the Biblical example of Phineas, by becoming instruments of God's vengeance. Aryan Nations, formerly of Hayden Lake, Idaho, was the center of Christian Identity thought. Not incidentally, Buford Furrow worked there as a security guard before going on a shooting rampage at a Jewish day care center in Southern California. And you talk about Paul Hill, wrote of the need to take Phineas actions to prevent abortions and was so well known that the news media used to -- used him to speak in support of Michael Griffin's killing of abortion doctor, David Gunn, that Hill later shot an abortion provider himself should have surprised no one. Give us the landscape of these groups. They're well known. MIKE GERMAN: Sure, they're well known. And they're very well organized, and they're very smart. They understand criminal conspiracy laws. They understand the First Amendment. And they take advantage of those in training their operatives to go out and do these activities. And the point I was trying to make is -- is that we can't look at these as isolated instances. It would be as if we were investigating the mafia and looking at every mafia hitman as a lone assassin and not looking at the underlying organization that was producing these murders, you know. And these people are careful, the leadership are careful about separating themselves from the actual criminal conspiracy, you know. But they do set the motive. They set the method that's used, and I believe that makes them part of the conspiracy. Now, I'm not saying necessarily you can make a criminal case against them, but all I'm saying is if we're -- if our number one priority is to prevent acts of terrorism, we have to pay attention to these needle factories, because that's what they're producing is these lone extremist terrorists. And it's not just random violence that occurs once in a while, it's an organized pattern of activity. AMY GOODMAN: I remember during President Bush, the first's presidency, Planned Parenthood trying to get the administration to talk about the whole movement of burning, bombing, attacking women's health clinics as a conspiracy, because the same kinds of things were happening around the country, not to mention the targeting of women's health professionals, and doctors who performed abortions. They could hardly get an audience with the Justice Department at the time, and the administration was adamant about not talking about conspiracy of these groups. What is the significance of this? MIKE GERMAN: Well, I think the problem is if you blind yourself to the conspiracy, then the chances of them being successful in their next act of lone extremist terrorism is more likely. So, you know, again I'm not saying that we could necessarily take these leaders into court and convict them, because the whole purpose of their methodology is to separate themselves from the actual criminal activity, but what I'm saying is if we don't pay attention to those leaders, you're going to insure that the next group is successful, just as if we were only investigating the mafia one murder at a time and not looking at the underlying organization. And frankly, you know, these groups, like the Ku Klux Klan and Aryan Nations, have rich criminal histories just as deep as the Italian mafia does, yet, you know, we tend to give them a political status that I don't think is necessarily deserved. Now, one thing to keep in mind, there are political groups within this movement. It's a huge community. Like any community, there's a division of labor, and these -- you know, there are completely law-abiding people within these groups, and as a criminal investigator, when I went undercover, one of my -- one of the things that I had to do was separate those two out, because there are people who have very strong white supremacist beliefs but would never, ever engage in violence. And my role as a criminal investigator, I was there to gather evidence of criminal activity. So I had no interest in talking to those people. I had to try to find who were the criminals. And I mean, that's the part -- the hard part about law enforcement in a democratic society, but it's something that has to be done. And, you know, in my cases, it was done very effectively and, you know, I believe the F.B.I. should have replicated those cases more than they did. AMY GOODMAN: You write in your piece in The Washington Post of last week, that just six weeks ago, self-avowed white supremacist, Sean Gillespie, was convicted of firebombing an Oklahoma City synagogue. According to a CNN report, Gillespie said he once had been a member of the white supremacist group, Aryan Nations. He later left the group. At the time of his arrest, he told authorities he was a racist skinhead acting on his own. But before the attack, he videotaped himself stating, "I will film it for your viewing enjoyment, my kindred white power." If he's all alone, who are his "kindred"? "Neo-Nazi ideology is also a leading influence in rising school violence," you write. "The March 21 shooting at Minnesota's Red Lake High School was carried out by a Native American teen who praised Adolf Hitler, used the name 'Native Nazi' in internet chat rooms, and the shooters at Colorado's Columbine High School reportedly greeted each other with Nazi salutes and chose Hitler's birthday as the date of their attack. But you rarely hear these incidents described as acts of domestic terrorism." Who defines whether it's terrorism or not? MIKE GERMAN: Well, that's a big part of the problem, and you know, any time they come up with numbers of terrorist attacks, you have got to realize that there's a reporting problem there. You know, a white man beats a black man on the street, is that just a random assault or is that a hate crime, or is that an act of domestic terrorism, or is it nothing? Does it not get reported at all? So, any time that the government talks about numbers of terrorism attacks, what they're talking about is the number of attacks that were reported as acts of terrorism. And like the school violence, sometimes it's not even thought of as domestic terrorism, but if neo-Nazi influence is influencing these kids to act out violently, I would argue that that's part of the terrorist movement, and that that, by paying attention to the neo-Nazi groups that are producing that literature and those websites, we might have a better idea of who might be the next lone extremist, so that we can stop him. AMY GOODMAN: With people like Paul Hill, the abortion doctor killer, the whole violent attack on women's health movement, is it also that the administration with a very anti-choice point of view, brings politics into defining who they will go after and who they don't? Is that fair to say? MIKE GERMAN: No, I really don't think so. In my experience, the agents on the street have really never let politics get involved, really are very apolitical. AMY GOODMAN: Not the agents on the street, but at the top. MIKE GERMAN: Except that that's who actually does the investigation. So, you know, I mean, kind of one of the misnomers about all this talk of reforming the government for counterterrorism, it's not as if the director could say, 'Hey, agent in Des Moines, find me a domestic terrorist case today.' You know, he can only deal with what's on the street in front of him. So, cases actually get reported up from the street. And, you know, the agents on the street are the ones that are actually making the cases, and where -- like what I said before, where it breaks down is when it gets through management. And I don't believe politics really plays a point in that. I -- you know, whether politics plays a point in these kind of rankings of what terrorist groups are most dangerous right now, that very well may be, but my whole point is that you can't really rank these guys based on their ideology. You have to worry about who has got the bomb today. AMY GOODMAN: Where are the white militia groups centered today in this country, and how hard is it to infiltrate? MIKE GERMAN: You know, they're everywhere. I think that one of the big misperceptions about these groups is that they're only out West. They're only up in the Northwest. You know, once you're kind of attuned to their language and their codes and their symbols, I see that kind of stuff everywhere I go. I have, you know, traveled all over the United States and have been able to find something that gives me an indication that there's a community there. When a community gets leafleted, typically that's a sign that there is a group that is at least trying to start operating in that community. And if you, you know, look at these groups, the Southern Poverty Law Center, the Anti-Defamation League, they keep track of this kind of information, you will see that they're spread out everywhere, and keep in mind that they're clandestine groups, so they do their best to hide. So of the ones we know about, there's probably -- you know, that's probably just the tip of the iceberg. There's probably, you know, two or three times that many that nobody has ever heard of. When I was working undercover in the Los Angeles case, the one group that we found that was actually involved in the bombing campaign, nobody even knew about them. You know, the Huntington Beach Police Department had done a very nice job helping -- assisting us in that case, in identifying some of these young people, but it was basically a group that was operating completely under the radar. AMY GOODMAN: We're talking to former F.B.I. man, Mike German, who quit the F.B.I. in 2004, had been there for 16 years, quit over how the F.B.I. was dealing with domestic terrorism. Do you expect an attack soon in this country? MIKE GERMAN: An attack from domestic terrorists? AMY GOODMAN: Yes. MIKE GERMAN: Or -- AMY GOODMAN: Or, well, no, let's broaden it to: Do you expect a terrorist attack in this country? MIKE GERMAN: Of course. I don't think that, you know, you're ever going to stop terrorism. You know, and part of the problem is, we use one word to describe very many different things, you know, whether it's the Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski, or the D.C. snipers or, you know, organized white supremacist groups and organized foreign terrorist groups. We're certainly never going to stop terrorism altogether. You know, I think we just have to try to do the best we can to prevent as many acts as we can, and it requires really a lot of proactive work. And I think one of the big problems is after 9/11, there was generated this idea that criminal law enforcement is somehow ineffective in preventing terrorist attacks. Well, my two cases prove that you could prevent terrorist attacks. I mean, in both of my cases, we actually used criminal law enforcement techniques to prevent acts of terrorism. And unfortunately, the way the intelligence reform has gone has moved from criminal law enforcement to this intelligence model. Well, you know, basically the problem in 9/11 was the American public had no idea how dysfunctional the F.B.I. counterterrorism program had become, but now we're under this intelligence model, we actually know even less about what the government is doing to protect us from terrorism. You know, there's less accountability in the F.B.I., and I certainly know that there are problems, and I reported those problems to Congress, but so far, Congress hasn't been able to even get to the bottom of what I reported to them over a year ago. So, there's just no oversight, and those things are really the problems. And until we fix what is internally wrong in the F.B.I., I don't think it's going to change. I think that we're still at great risk. You know, the 9/11 Commission found that the big problems were the F.B.I. had a poor ability to analyze intelligence that was coming in from the street, that they didn't share information well, and they didn't have a computerized system to share information, even among agents. And just last week, the 9/11 Commission discourse project came out and told us that -- gave us their report card, and it was that the F.B.I. still doesn't have an analytic capability, it still isn't sharing information in the intelligence community, and it still doesn't have a computer system. That's four years after 9/11. So, you know, the problem -- these are all symptoms of one problem, and the problem is mismanagement within the F.B.I., yet none of the recommendations that of the 9/11 Commission addressed that mismanagement. Former Attorney General Richard Thornburg at the 9/11 discourse project last Monday said that, you know, one of the things that bothered him as he was trying to review information about the F.B.I. is through the course of the time that he was there, every time he went to a meeting, it was a different F.B.I. supervisor he was meeting with, that the turnover among supervisors is so rapid that they really don't have an opportunity to learn their job before they're moving to the next one. AMY GOODMAN: Mike German, last question. That is, the latest report that under pressure from the White House, the F.B.I. has agreed to adopt recommendations of a presidential commission to allow the Director of National Intelligence, John Negroponte, to help choose the powerful new intelligence chief at the F.B.I. The appointment would for the first time in the Bureau's history give an outsider a significant role in the selection of a high level official in the F.B.I. What do you think about this? MIKE GERMAN: Well, it'll depend on who it is and whether he has the ability to force the managers below him to reform their conduct. And you know, I mean, it's kind of perfume on a pig to keep changing these top people, because I don't think the top people are the problem. AMY GOODMAN: Mike German. On that note, I'm going to say thanks very much for joining us. Again, Mike German, with the F.B.I. for more than 15 years, quit last year, did a piece in The Washington Post last week called, "Behind the Lone Terrorist, a Pack Mentality." see also: Behind the Lone Terrorist, a Pack Mentality http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2005/06/41772.php or http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/04/AR2005060400147.html and "what i do see is that in a town so openly supportive of aryan nation causes, in a town and province with so many aryan nation camps and in a city like victoria which, from it's media (be it monday mag to the times colonists) to the daily functioning, housing and employment policies of this city, has resisted multiculturalism like muslims and jews shun swine and polytheism-- that it is odd that the major conflict being permitted to escalate; to be fuelled as if it were a major threat over the reality of white supremacy -- which is a reality -- is this fictitious Muslim vs jew and black vs Jew conflict which only assist the cause of the predominant white power organizations which infest this island and recruit our poor white youth to take the fall. -- Lawrence Y Braithwaite -- "You should refrain" http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2005/05/40734.php and "I can't see anybody deciding to be a part of something and not knowing anything about it. Mostly kids in small towns or ones in which there is high unemployment and poor education fall prey to this. They are targeted. They feel powerless and are told that they can have power over others if they just bully and walk the walk. The kids are lead to believe that non-Whites are out to get them, having meetings and planning this great takeover. Not to mention, people are willing to offer these scared, pissed off kids as much beer, free tats, Celtic pride, and nifty hate-rock CDs as they can drink, fit on themselves, and carry. --- Lawrence Ytzhak Braithwaite -- "The Way Things Are... Or Are Ratz Nice?" http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2004/11/34659.php or http://www.alyson.com/html/00_files/00_interviews/0300/0300ratz_interview.html http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/13/145217 and <> The irony, of course, was that Hitler viewed Native Americans (and all other nonwhite people) as untermenschen, (German for 'subhumans.')...How does a 16-year old Chippewa boy, in modern-day America, come to loathe his own people so profoundly, ...that they were dead to him in his heart? ...We have often discussed and written about Black self-hatred, the projection of hate against the self that splashes against those who are closest to us; who look most like us. Mumia Abu-Jamal -- "NATIVE NAZI?" http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2005/03/39460.php or http://www.alternet.org/story/21594/ "I can only wonder how things might have turned out differently if Weise had had a traditional Ojibwe upbringing, was well-acquainted with his native tongue and traditions"-- H. Mathew Barkhausen III, SNAG Magazine -- "Tragedy At Red Lake: A History of Self-Hate Among Indian Youths" and "I can't see anybody deciding to be a part of something and not knowing anything about it. Mostly kids in small towns or ones in which there is high unemployment and poor education fall prey to this. They are targeted. They feel powerless and are told that they can have power over others if they just bully and walk the walk. The kids are lead to believe that non-Whites are out to get them, having meetings and planning this great takeover. Not to mention, people are willing to offer these scared, pissed off kids as much beer, free tats, Celtic pride, and nifty hate-rock CDs as they can drink, fit on themselves, and carry. --- Lawrence Ytzhak Braithwaite -- "The Way Things Are... Or Are Ratz Nice?" http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2004/11/34659.php or http://www.alyson.com/html/00_files/00_interviews/0300/0300ratz_interview.html http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/13/145217 Stay Strong\ "Everyday is Ashura and every land is Kerbala"\ -Imam Ja'far Sadiq\ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html \ http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_comments/766_0_15_0_C/ \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/ \ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:57:28 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Del Ray Cross Subject: SHAMPOO 24 (5 Year Anniversary) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Dear SudsLovers, SHAMPOO issue 24, the FIVE YEAR ANNIVERSARY EXTRAVAGANZA,=20 is now hot off the shelf and ready for your shower. =20 Please dispense modestly from: =20 www.ShampooPoetry.com Rinse and repeat and repeat with poetry by Alli Warren, Amanda Laughtland, Anselm Berrigan, Beth Woodcome, Bill Berkson, Brent Cunningham,=20 C. 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Powered by Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:38:03 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mary Jo Malo Subject: a Town MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Absolutely wonderful, steve. Nice to see you guys posting pome a Gain. Mary ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:51:34 -0700 Reply-To: ishaq1823@telus.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: these are the Dubwoys pt 2 (from more at 7:30: notes from new palestine) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tre Inhuman beat box it Ardbop, juggle the mixer The Negas fuse to the 1 =1 aim +1 destiny. ...the snake want step to this capacity. Knowledge + Wisdom =? Think for Me. The tranformation of waste is your room become yuh yard -- reassembling to make a proper plate—this block becomes a party in resistance Woht weapons? We use to bomb wallz with skillz now we roll bombs like a kill And if in all respects unequal, be capable of eludin them. A lil crowd is but a mark’s grip for one more Mighty. Our equipment Flanger, fists and pirate digital. …anticipate the reaction or the resistance of the enemy… The beat drops as sneaky as a stealth bomber. Ardbop flips his fingaz over the plates and feels the scarred wax on his tips gliding over the grip from the residue of helium and then he twist his wrists Steady Go steady like a bassy. It jazzy. King Tim! stay ready. Tre, he’s the telepathic sound system selector. Ardbop’s digits shreddin this riddim in waxy pores. He mad hecktic the sequencer/yänkee. He made a plate for this to move the Heretics to crash y’crew. Is this on the real? Massive black kids with hyenas on car chains circling the square. Baboons bitch slappin pittbulls for the muslims greys once called coons. Equalize youself Mightys and regulate Fail the fate of massive confusion Ovastand this dubwise collusion of bands of homebwoys soon to see the bassy. G’¡Ya! say Slam the sonic. Oh what a mess… Dans become hysterical with the grapple in the metaphysical = the duppy is a soundbwoy! Move it over, dawg, dang yaeh Aow pleeeeease I guesss I was helping her… Ardbop and Tre cue quick to clock the dawg , build or employ the techniques of the Grand Master. Flash is… Flash got a blaster on his head like Poros to the Grand Master. ...rude dudes with ratchets at their speakers. But Tek comes rushin up with a hyhena as his slave and ripps off his muzzle. The beast devours the soundbwais and their thugz but death surrounds the soundbwais on all sides. Yet they, like the rudies, become extreme losers because they still cannot die. …try another vein…I guesss I was helping her… Men with Metal detectors walked about in a trance spottin rigs and coins in the yards of recreation and the 3 topless Janes kept levelin Cain. the stripping of breasts-- and milk rushes out and drowns the out the sound of screaming faithfuls and likkles til Lil Burg gets his baboon to chomp a chunk of meat from the jug and slash the kneck of the daemons with a tashbir transformed from chains. He holds a word in script by No. It’s page from a 5 Star Blue Note Book: ‘Walls filled with grafs like typos/the sacred texts undissed by the purified locos’ these are words from… turntable interrogation techniques The duppy went to swallowing seeds again and Fuchx saw a version. It was plate of More out by Goldstream drenched in lighter fluid and smoke ash. There were sparks of living light plucking the hairs from his body. More special, he, stepped into a frame -- stood on a cliff of blood burned into clay which became tile. The running streams became a hallway and the kids busted there noses and ripped their lips slamming themselves into walls. Wiggy was dancing on the lunch table as the warders and cyclepaths clapped and laughed. Some kid had a rocket launcher aimed a speaker on the school wall. Under a table a native kid with headphones typed sparks like letters from a latop making the illusion of logic dutch Schultz math tricks into paratatic sentences transformed into news items made music. Wittengen saw Geranimo as the genius of gringo coshin commando communiqué centrifugal numerics strategy. Literacy performance art was made on the real by bum rushin the 999th plateaux givin way to philistines Squared in 4 elements of dark skinned arabics Truht and not delusion. …lackin in schoolin… yet producing the sonic discussion of the x-ray vision the stripping of treble these are words from… Fuchx saw a More special in the science room using gun powder and oil to smooth over the wounds and eczema -- covering his knot. The dub was scratchin. He saw More being downloaded by SMUs, jakes, sailors and ministry workers as a cowboy previewed mpegs of Wiggy stripping the Mighty… bass turntable interrogation techniques exploiting phobias, He saw More’s mom crawlin on the floor car chained to a hyena pullin her legs as she collected and reassembled pieces of shatterd geisha masks. …taking away comfort items bass Woht’s the weight of the world? The texte of the 5 Star gon a x-ray a shadowed figure swang from a plum tree 1.2. 1 2 victoria see nagas and all eyez get lynchy …. trebling pon sensitivities. …gimme my try… cracked masks with salt stains hymens busted in trains Dred Don Dane covered the Blue beat dream -- postered the scene all ova the city. Punctuated by the visual liquid compositions of I.B.C. Sound systems Army see his daddy. Army see his moms. Army see her face filled sampled with kaposi …ring around the rosy…. Coke mules and career opertunities for children like homosexuals and the teenage prostitution. …what’s his math? He’s such a cutey… From the Bowery to Hells Kitchen or sussin the grow stashed on reservations. Come MighTY lord duke Fuchx and say, STEP UP!!! Come flex... Smackin crack sots in the Holiday with Billy. S’all jus nega shit, gree. [Hit it with the inhuman heretic King Tim drum machine] Tre. Ardbop reloads And he reloads And he reloads Chasin pitch to balance the revolution of fads – held in ransom with twice the power to sacrefice, these Mightys, holdin down their square, are as solid as 10 thousand with the force of a fid …ready 2… 1.2. 1.2. transforming the block into a hiz come to party. Bruthas. Esquires. Purify with fire. Gang bangin the duppy with the will of fadayee hear, here: Cream is stalled and surrounded by giggles, deadeyes and smirks as he gets boxed in by walls of webpages. He sees only massive digits of megs and plungers, endless downloads and More being sucked up into upload files and completed folders. Holocustic holographic local pornographics being devoured by baboons and beast dogs chompin on geisha masks. He sees a grey fat man in James bay watching a naga bwai get fucked on a couch by kaposi festered pale man who is nude under a cowboy hat. Gawd. The birth of confusion. Fusion. Bombin the walls of building. Old and new school. This Island. More. Aaron. …and dub babys raised by romans. Breakin hymens and definitions. An ill dope plan…daddies dreaming jism mixed down to sets transformed from semen = rhineland bastard in creation The deadeye men. Jinns. Ins. The illin beginnin... Ah radiant chillum technology invasion and the ragamuffin cousins with a hidden pocket full of local product -- massive technology = Meth crystals poppin geishas maskies jus try and clock Me 1426 Lawrence Y Braithwaite (aka Lord Patch) New Palestine/Fernwood/The Hood Victoria, BC *respects to sis g-IsIs and nigeria ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Be a friend to the oppressed and an enemy to the oppressor" \ --Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib (as)\ \ "This mathematical rhythmatical mechanism enhances my wisdom\ of Islam, keeps me calm from doing you harm, when I attack, it's Vietnam"\ --HellRazah\ \ "It's not too good to stay in a white man's country too long"\ --Mutabartuka\ \ "As for we who have decided to break the back of colonialism, \ our historic mission is to sanction all revolts, all desperate \ actions, all those abortive attempts drowned in rivers of blood."\ - Frantz Fanon\ \ "Everyday is Ashura and every land is Kerbala"\ -Imam Ja'far Sadiq\ \ http://scratchcue.blogspot.com/ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html \ http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_comments/766_0_15_0_C/ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date\ \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/ \ "For African people on the continent the image of Afrikans in America is that of a bunch of heavily armed Black men who only stop fighting each other long enough to put a dollar in Chocolate Thunda's thong at tha strip club."\ --min paul scott --"How MTV Underdeveloped Africa: Pistols, Pimps and Pan Africanism"\ \ M.E.D.I.A.: (MisEducation Destroying Intelligent Afrikans)\ \ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THCO2/ \ } ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:58:01 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ruth Lepson Subject: Re: Creeley/Poe/Bernstein/Lawrence/Williams/Dickinson/bells bells bells bells bells! In-Reply-To: <003401c57034$c7350c40$9ec2f304@VAIO> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Many thanks to Gloria F and Stephen B--further rumination to come in response to yr thoughtful expansive analyses. Ruth Lepson On 6/13/05 12:27 PM, "Gloria Frym" wrote: > I'd like to add that Williams' essay on Poe seems to me one of the most > important. He reads Poe through Modernist psychological and political > eyes--posits that Poe both records and anticipates American alienation from > self and body, both physical and spiritual, the emotional terror of a vast > unknown continent on its way to Westward Ho (including shopping malls!) and > empire. Whatever his intention, some of Poe's greatest stories now morph > back into physical parallels of 20th century horrors ("The Masque of the Red > Death," easily reads as AIDS), and 21st century government sanctioned > physical torture. > "Ligeia," too, is a ghostly character, whose embodiment only becomes real > and beloved in death. As American Fascism promotes the culture of war, > Poe's "darkness" feels all too realistic these days. > Also, Poe was America's first real literary critic. His standards, as > revealed in his numerous reviews of his contemporaries, were demanding and > orthodox, akin to Clement Greenberg's in visual art. > And his short stories seem to me a poet's prose. There are no real > characters in Poe's so-called tales of ratiocination. Characters are used > in the service of the text, and dimensions of a unnamed single speaker, > fairly incapable of conventional fictional strategies. > Lastly, that Whitman was one of the few who attended Poe's funeral has > some significance. The American Optimist pays homage to the American > Pessimist, who is Noir as America. Poe dies long before the 1855 first > edition of Leaves of Grass. Both poets are groping for physical, > intellectual and aesthetic "American" morals and aesthetics that might > counter the puritanical (now morphed into fundamentalist) normative > standards. > As for Dickinson, I don't agree that her work is hermetic. The work is > often elliptical and dense, but not without entry, providing the reader who > can > accept multiplicity of "meaning", indeterminacy, sound, pun, > and other now familiar literary devices, > with pleasure. The work both doubts and confirms. She thought, as she > said, "New Englandly." > And rebelled grandly. As did Creeley. And were Called Back,as it were, > differently. Not wanting to create a reductive argument about either, I > suggest that each are various and accessible and difficult and yet, more > interrogating, philosophical, domestic, and finally local rather than > hermetic in their poetics. > > Gloria Frym > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Baraban" > To: > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:38 PM > Subject: Creeley/Poe/Bernstein/Lawrence/Williams/Dickinson/bells bells bells > bells bells! > > >> Yes, it was wonderful that Charles B. told us of the >> story behind Creeley's Ligeia libretto. If Creeley >> was willing to work on this text without knowing the >> composer very well, and wasn't so upset when the >> composing of the music didn't happen, it sounds like >> he was very pleased to be colloraborating with POE. >> >> I think as many of us as possible should make Poe's >> works part of our summer reading, and report back in >> say, September. The different visions people have of >> this elusive literary figure are quite intriguing. On >> the surface, D.H. Lawrence's conception of Poe (in >> Studies in Classic American Literature) as a >> sufferer/diagnostician writing from within a realm of >> decadence seems pleasingly consonant with one's niave >> reactions to EAP's works, though we know, of course >> that Poe was not the forever zonked-out sadsack seer >> that folklore pictures, but was very much a busy, >> critically-acute professional, as emphasized by W.C. >> Williams in the Poe chapter of _In The American >> Grain_. >> >> I was surprised to see Charles B., in the recent >> Creeley piece, place Poe amongst his list of people >> whose writings are in the middle between Whitman's >> "expansive, sexually explicit, and exuberant" works >> and Dickinson's "philosphical, hermetic, >> introspective" poems. Poe is expansive and exuberant, >> I wondered? And what is the sexuality in his writing >> except incest, and men's love of very young women, and >> the morbid desire to completely know the other that >> Lawrence notes? >> >> But as far as exuberance goes, maybe one reason I've >> never thought of this quality in relation to Poe is >> that I haven't taken "The Bells" seriously (as part of >> not taking the poems in general very seriously). But >> "Bells" is not so bad at all. I sign off with the >> beginning: >> >> Hear the sledges with the bells - >> Silver bells! >> What a world of merriment their melody foretells! >> How they tinkle, tinkle, tinkle, >> In the icy air of night! >> While the stars that oversprinkle >> All the heavens, seem to twinkle >> With a crystalline delight; >> Keeping time, time, time, >> In a sort of Runic rhyme, >> To the tintinnabulation that so musically wells >> From the bells, bells, bells, bells, >> Bells, bells, bells - >> From the jingling and the tinkling of the bells. >> >> >> --- Ruth Lepson wrote: >> >>> Hi Charles B, >>> >>> Thank you so much for taking the time to tell all >>> this. I will dip into Poe >>> & dear Bob's libretto & the Granary Books book. >>> >>> All best, >>> >>> Ruth Lepson >>> >>> >> >> >> >> __________________________________ >> Discover Yahoo! >> Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it >> out! >> http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html >> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:06:25 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Schlesinger Subject: Jessica Smith, Broken Toilet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All, While out of the country last year, Jessica Smith subletted, and = subsequently trashed my flat (broken toilet, tampons on the porch, dirty = underwear in the silverware, etc.) She skipped town in the night, with = bills and rent unpaid, plants dead, and the heat on at 80 degrees in the = middle of a Buffalo winter. If anyone has her contact information, it would be greatly appreciated. = Sorry to cloud the list with my own dirty laundry, but this was not = merely a violation of personal trust, but a violation of the communal = trust we share on and off this list, together. Cheers, Kyle ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:06:03 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Caroline Crumpacker Subject: bilingual reading series Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One final, delightful reading before the bilingual reading series takes a break for summer dainties: At 2:00 PM on June 19 A celebration of the new issue of Circumference Magazine featuring Jennifer Hayashida reading her translations of of Swedish poet Frederik=20= Nyberg Elizabeth Macklin reading her translations of Basque poet Kirmen Uribe Keith Newton reading his translations of Gaius Valerius Catullus and the magazine's delightful editors Stefania=A0Heim and=20 Jennifer=A0Kronovet will sell issues of the magazine at a discount all this at the elegant Bowery Poetry Club 308 Bowery @ Bleecker, across from CBGB's 212-614-0505 www.bowerypoetry.com $6 drinks, coffees, snacks, cuties etc. **** Elizabeth Macklin has published two collections of poems, A Woman=20 Kneeling in the Big City and and You=92ve Just Been Told. In 1999=962000=20= she spent an Amy Lowell Poetry Traveling Scholarship year studying the=20= Basque language in Bilbao, Spain. She is a freelance writer and editor in New York City. Kirmen Uribe is the author of Bitartean heldu eskutik (Meanwhile Hold=20 Hands), which won Spain=92s 2001 Premio de la Cr=EDtica, and whose = Spanish=20 translation will be published this fall. His 2001 multimedia=20 collaboration with the musician Mikel Urdangarin was made into Bar=20 Puerto, a CD-book. Uribe lives in Vitoria-Gasteiz (Euskadi, Spain). ** Poet and translator Jennifer Hayashida grew up in the suburbs of=20 Stockholm and San Francisco, and currently lives in Brooklyn, NY. She=20= received her MFA in writing from Bard College=92s Milton Avery Graduate=20= School of the Arts, and her work has appeared in Insurance, The=20 Literary Review, and The Asian Pacific American Journal. She was=20 awarded a 2004 Witter Bynner poetry translator residency at the Santa=20 Fe Art Institute. Her translation of the contemporary Swedish poet Eva=20= Sj=F6din=92s book-length prose poem Inner China (Det inre av Kina) is=20 forthcoming from Litmus Press. She will read her translations of Swedish poet Frederik Nyberg. Frederik Nyberg was born in 1968 and currently resides in G=F6teborg,=20 Sweden. His debut collection, En annorlunda praktik (A Different=20 Practice) was published by Norstedts F=F6rlag in 1998. Subsequent books,=20= Blomsterur - f=F6rklaringar och dikter (Clockwork of Flowers -=20 Explanations and Poems), and =C5ren (The Years), were published in 2000=20= and 2002, respectively. In 2003, Nyberg wrote the play, Tunnels=E5ng=20 (Tunnel Song), commissioned by G=F6teborg=92s Cinnnober Theater and = their=20 undertaking, Det svenska projektet (The Swedish Project), with the=20 mission to stimulate and develop contemporary Swedish theatre. Nyberg serves on the editorial board of=20= the Swedish literary publications OEI. ** Keith Newton has published poems and reviews in several journals, and=20 he is the editor of the second edition of the Columbia Granger=92s Index=20= to Poetry in Collected and Selected Works (2004). He received his MFA=20 from Washington University. He will be reading from his translation of=20= Catullus. The Latin poet Gaius Valerius Catullus (ca. 84 B.C.E. - 54 B.C.E.) was=20= born into a wealthy family in Verona and died, at age thirty, in Rome.=20= Almost everything that is thought to be known about his life=97his = social=20 world, his friends and enemies, his politics, his travels, his love=20 affair with a woman he calls =93Lesbia=94=97is extrapolated from his = writing.=20 He was part of a literary group known as the =93neoteroi,=94 the new = poets.=20 Despite his popularity in the centuries after he died his work later=20 vanished. The manuscript of a single volume of his poems resurfaced in=20= the early 14th century in Italy. Since then, his =93little book,=94 as = he=20 called it, has had profound influence on poets around the world. ** If you want to be removed from this list, send me a message and it=20 shall be done. Otherwise, see you next Fall... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:58:59 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinksy Subject: Re: a Town MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thanks mj ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:24:08 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Gloria Frym Subject: Re: Creeley/Poe/Bernstein/Lawrence/Williams/Dickinson/bells bells bells bells bells! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There are some little known audio tapes of Creeley, Susan Howe, Bob Grenier and others speaking about Dickinson. They were recorded in the mid 80s at a Dickinson conference at New College of California, in San Francisco, where I taught in the Poetics Program for 15 years. They reside in the library there. Anyone interested might contact the College. GF ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Lepson" To: Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:58 PM Subject: Re: Creeley/Poe/Bernstein/Lawrence/Williams/Dickinson/bells bells bells bells bells! > Many thanks to Gloria F and Stephen B--further rumination to come in > response to yr thoughtful expansive analyses. > Ruth Lepson > > > On 6/13/05 12:27 PM, "Gloria Frym" wrote: > >> I'd like to add that Williams' essay on Poe seems to me one of the most >> important. He reads Poe through Modernist psychological and political >> eyes--posits that Poe both records and anticipates American alienation >> from >> self and body, both physical and spiritual, the emotional terror of a >> vast >> unknown continent on its way to Westward Ho (including shopping malls!) >> and >> empire. Whatever his intention, some of Poe's greatest stories now morph >> back into physical parallels of 20th century horrors ("The Masque of the >> Red >> Death," easily reads as AIDS), and 21st century government sanctioned >> physical torture. >> "Ligeia," too, is a ghostly character, whose embodiment only becomes real >> and beloved in death. As American Fascism promotes the culture of war, >> Poe's "darkness" feels all too realistic these days. >> Also, Poe was America's first real literary critic. His standards, >> as >> revealed in his numerous reviews of his contemporaries, were demanding >> and >> orthodox, akin to Clement Greenberg's in visual art. >> And his short stories seem to me a poet's prose. There are no real >> characters in Poe's so-called tales of ratiocination. Characters are >> used >> in the service of the text, and dimensions of a unnamed single speaker, >> fairly incapable of conventional fictional strategies. >> Lastly, that Whitman was one of the few who attended Poe's funeral >> has >> some significance. The American Optimist pays homage to the American >> Pessimist, who is Noir as America. Poe dies long before the 1855 first >> edition of Leaves of Grass. Both poets are groping for physical, >> intellectual and aesthetic "American" morals and aesthetics that might >> counter the puritanical (now morphed into fundamentalist) normative >> standards. >> As for Dickinson, I don't agree that her work is hermetic. The work >> is >> often elliptical and dense, but not without entry, providing the reader >> who >> can >> accept multiplicity of "meaning", indeterminacy, sound, pun, >> and other now familiar literary devices, >> with pleasure. The work both doubts and confirms. She thought, as she >> said, "New Englandly." >> And rebelled grandly. As did Creeley. And were Called Back,as it >> were, >> differently. Not wanting to create a reductive argument about either, I >> suggest that each are various and accessible and difficult and yet, more >> interrogating, philosophical, domestic, and finally local rather than >> hermetic in their poetics. >> >> Gloria Frym >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Stephen Baraban" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:38 PM >> Subject: Creeley/Poe/Bernstein/Lawrence/Williams/Dickinson/bells bells >> bells >> bells bells! >> >> >>> Yes, it was wonderful that Charles B. told us of the >>> story behind Creeley's Ligeia libretto. If Creeley >>> was willing to work on this text without knowing the >>> composer very well, and wasn't so upset when the >>> composing of the music didn't happen, it sounds like >>> he was very pleased to be colloraborating with POE. >>> >>> I think as many of us as possible should make Poe's >>> works part of our summer reading, and report back in >>> say, September. The different visions people have of >>> this elusive literary figure are quite intriguing. On >>> the surface, D.H. Lawrence's conception of Poe (in >>> Studies in Classic American Literature) as a >>> sufferer/diagnostician writing from within a realm of >>> decadence seems pleasingly consonant with one's niave >>> reactions to EAP's works, though we know, of course >>> that Poe was not the forever zonked-out sadsack seer >>> that folklore pictures, but was very much a busy, >>> critically-acute professional, as emphasized by W.C. >>> Williams in the Poe chapter of _In The American >>> Grain_. >>> >>> I was surprised to see Charles B., in the recent >>> Creeley piece, place Poe amongst his list of people >>> whose writings are in the middle between Whitman's >>> "expansive, sexually explicit, and exuberant" works >>> and Dickinson's "philosphical, hermetic, >>> introspective" poems. Poe is expansive and exuberant, >>> I wondered? And what is the sexuality in his writing >>> except incest, and men's love of very young women, and >>> the morbid desire to completely know the other that >>> Lawrence notes? >>> >>> But as far as exuberance goes, maybe one reason I've >>> never thought of this quality in relation to Poe is >>> that I haven't taken "The Bells" seriously (as part of >>> not taking the poems in general very seriously). But >>> "Bells" is not so bad at all. I sign off with the >>> beginning: >>> >>> Hear the sledges with the bells - >>> Silver bells! >>> What a world of merriment their melody foretells! >>> How they tinkle, tinkle, tinkle, >>> In the icy air of night! >>> While the stars that oversprinkle >>> All the heavens, seem to twinkle >>> With a crystalline delight; >>> Keeping time, time, time, >>> In a sort of Runic rhyme, >>> To the tintinnabulation that so musically wells >>> From the bells, bells, bells, bells, >>> Bells, bells, bells - >>> From the jingling and the tinkling of the bells. >>> >>> >>> --- Ruth Lepson wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Charles B, >>>> >>>> Thank you so much for taking the time to tell all >>>> this. I will dip into Poe >>>> & dear Bob's libretto & the Granary Books book. >>>> >>>> All best, >>>> >>>> Ruth Lepson >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> __________________________________ >>> Discover Yahoo! >>> Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it >>> out! >>> http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html >>> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 01:06:24 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: now i am here MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed now i am here "no, i am not here" "X i am here now" yes yes yes http://www.asondheim.org/gcac.jpg it is such a game to play "i am here and i am not here" i am virtual here now this is a virtual letter: X or a real letter; that was my left-hand-ring-finger "speaking" of the X and please note this tired conceptualism is the oldest trick in the book if one begins the book in 1973 everyone in 1973 is already dead 1973 culture is already dead but "i am here now XXX" and typing this right now. as you read this. now. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:33:38 -0700 Reply-To: ishaq1823@telus.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: these are the Dubwoys pt 3 (from more at 7:30: notes from new palestine) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit We crash y'crew/Gats on Dats/Woht weapons? /Our weapons/Tardid or Repitition. Swords and words spoken/Our identity/7:30 irony: the balance of the needle, arm and turntables ...and sturm and drag queen troopers bust butts over the heads of kids trying to build castles out of pebbles and make them play jump rope with tied used condoms as bombs blast the playground to shreds. Was's moms was down to a few pounds, by then, and hanging out at the Max on the corner early morning before the sun come red fa down and when others set to prey and some pray.... 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Let Ardbop build the pyre. He pullin some tempos and fuckin with the flanger and echos... He pulled the Trane and said, "Maybe Our voices is suppose to crack as you meet your maker in song." the stripping of exploiting phobias these are words from... Ardbop's turntable interrogation techniques Wreckin up phobias, ...a sound system of turntable interrogation techniques that was in part woht was unbassed and trebling pon sensitivities and black boys with wiggas and chugs holding back mad deep hyenas strapt to car chains. These are the Dubwoys punkin duppies in the George Jay.. Play> ...and the Hood say, -FUCC Y"ALL- WOOP! WOOP! WOOP! Woop! WOOP! WOOP! WOOP! -A'ri, homeybwoys!!! A'RI- -Peace- -A'ri- -G¡Ya!- -We got this shit locktdown, BWOEEEY- WOOP! WOOP! Woop! -Steady, yänkees. Stronge We strong, ¡Ya!- WOOP WOOP! WOOP! WOOP! WOOP! WOOP! -Six up- -Peace out- 1426 Lawrence Y Braithwaite (aka Lord Patch) New Palestine/Fernwood/The Hood Victoria, BC *respects to sis g-IsIs and nigeria ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Be a friend to the oppressed and an enemy to the oppressor" --Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib (as)\ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html \ http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_comments/766_0_15_0_C/ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date\ \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 03:36:08 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Simon DeDeo Subject: EVEN NEWER rhubarb MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear all, I know we just had a Rhubarb update, but I went a little crazy this morning and wrote a review of the University of Chicago Modern Poetry Anthology: 2150-2200. http://rhubarbissusan.blogspot.com/2005/06/chicago-modern-american-poetry-2150.html from the opening paragraph: "The University of Chicago has released what claims to be "the most definitive collection of human-readable American poetry for the latter half of the 22nd century." Of course, 'definitive' here is a relative term: 'American' here is taken to mean only poets from the fifty-five United States and Free Iraq -- although, as if in an afterthought, included also are seven poets from the Maritian and Lunar colonies whose national status, following the events of 4/22 and the destruction of the Equitorial Space Elevator, might most charitably be described as in extreme flux." I hope you enjoy it, and do spread the word about rhubarb is susan! -- Simon ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:56:23 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: maxpaul@SFSU.EDU Subject: NEW AMERICAN WRITING NUMBER 23 NOW AVAILABLE Comments: cc: maxinechernoff@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NEW AMERICAN WRITING #23 contains the following special features: new poems by Mahmoud Darwish, Vallejo's "The Black Heralds," Nine Vietnames Poets, The New Canadian Poetry, (featuring 20 writers including Christian Bok, Lisa Robertson, Ray Hsu, and many others, ed. by Todd Swift),and poems by Elizabeth Robinson, Andrew Joron, Donald Revell, Clayton Eshleman, Stephen Ratcliffe, Aaron Shurin, Gloria Frym, George Albon, Dara Wierm Stacy Doris, Connie Deanovich, Linh Dinh, Dan Beachy-Quick, Noelle Kocot, GC Waldrep, Sarah Riggs, Laynie Brown, Philip Metres, Matthew Cooperman, Susan Firer, Kathleen Ossip, and many others. 243 pages $10 Order from NAW, 369 Molino, Mill Valley CA 94941 or go online to www.newamerican writing.com to use a credit card. All back issues (except sold out #4) on sale to list members for $5/copy. Email us for complete list. Must be purchased by check directly to us. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:58:22 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: maxpaul@SFSU.EDU Subject: Re: NEW AMERICAN WRITING NUMBER 23 NOW AVAILABLE In-Reply-To: <1118757383.42aee2070f7b9@webmail.sfsu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NEW AMERICAN WIRITNG subscriptions also available. $27 for 3 issues. Quoting maxpaul@sfsu.edu: > NEW AMERICAN WRITING #23 contains the following special features: new poems > by > Mahmoud Darwish, Vallejo's "The Black Heralds," Nine Vietnames Poets, The > New > Canadian Poetry, (featuring 20 writers including Christian Bok, Lisa > Robertson, > Ray Hsu, and many others, ed. by Todd Swift),and poems by Elizabeth > Robinson, > Andrew Joron, Donald Revell, Clayton Eshleman, Stephen Ratcliffe, Aaron > Shurin, > Gloria Frym, George Albon, Dara Wierm Stacy Doris, Connie Deanovich, Linh > Dinh, > Dan Beachy-Quick, Noelle Kocot, GC Waldrep, Sarah Riggs, Laynie Brown, > Philip > Metres, Matthew Cooperman, Susan Firer, Kathleen Ossip, and many others. > > 243 pages > $10 > > Order from NAW, 369 Molino, Mill Valley CA 94941 > or go online to www.newamerican writing.com to use a credit card. > > All back issues (except sold out #4) on sale to list members for $5/copy. > Email us for complete list. Must be purchased by check directly to us. > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:10:53 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Charlie Rossiter Subject: Poetry World Radio---new poetry web radio station MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit A couple of friends and I are starting up a poetry web radio station...Poetry World Radio...our goal is to be on 24/7, which means we'll have pre-recorded material mixed with live shows.. Bill Dupree, the techmeister, is working on the program that will organize/disorganize the playlist so that it doesn't just run through the same loop in the same order over and over So....if you or anyone you know has a spoken word recording in English and you're interested in getting some airplay (webplay?), please send it to: Charlie Rossiter 705 S. Gunderson Ave Oak Park, IL 60304 U.S.A. By submitting a recording you are affirming that you own the copyright to the material (this includes background music, if any) and that you grant us permission to play it. If you want to check us out before getting involved, it's easy. Poetry World Radio is a joint project of me, Charlie Rossiter, Bill DuPree who is the tech wizard of www.poetrypoetry.com, and C.J.Laity who runs the equally wonderful website, www.Chicagopoetry.com Check out poetrypoetry and chicagopoetry and then come on board. We hope to hear from you. Charlie Rossiter co-founder & host www.poetrypoetry.com ---------- The truth is such a rare thing it is delightful to tell it Emily Dickinson www.poetrypoetry.com where you hear poems read by the poets who wrote them ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:40:05 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Pierre Joris Subject: Recent NOMADICS blog posts Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Recent posts on my NOMADICS blog: Dr. Charles Stein Roams Rome Trio Pamplemousse, my words sung by others, continuous peasant Florence Aubenas & Hussein Hanoun freed House of Books go to: http://pjoris.blogspot.com/ ___________________________________________________________ The poet: always in partibus infidelium =97 Paul Celan ___________________________________________________________ Pierre Joris 244 Elm Street Albany NY 12202 h: 518 426 0433 c: 518 225 7123 o: 518 442 40 85 email: joris@albany.edu http://www.albany.edu/~joris/ blog:http://pjoris.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:46:12 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: mIEKAL aND Subject: Re: Recent NOMADICS blog posts In-Reply-To: <150BF5A7-4000-4D68-BD22-D33E8BDD2A10@albany.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I checked out the House of Books the other day. While the work is incredible the project could be called more accurately House of Carvings of Books.... On Jun 14, 2005, at 11:40 AM, Pierre Joris wrote: > Recent posts on my NOMADICS blog: > > Dr. Charles Stein Roams Rome > > Trio Pamplemousse, my words sung by others, continuous peasant > > Florence Aubenas & Hussein Hanoun freed > > House of Books > > go to: http://pjoris.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:56:04 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: I C Words/LETTERS follow Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" MIME-Version: 1.0 persons, not persons, letters, people, not people, letters, letters from pe= ople, persons, not persons, people form persons. Now what follows may be. Not so easy. Some people cannot stomach the coagul= ation. In time, reality, that is, coagulate. We form Us. I see letters appearing in words. I see words, I do not. No longer do words= seem any longer. She started down the stairs. Paused. A question mark paused in a rose spran= g from the floor. Each town decided it was theirs. Each town alotted one ho= rse and one carriage. Each carriage attached to their horse and led down th= e road away from the town. Each horse returned to their respective towns. E= ach horse was brutally murdered. I no longer see people, persons, between each word each line appears. I do = not see letters no longer than they appear. Each word appears before their = respective persons, each one broken at the neck.=20 She started down the stairs. Pushed a rose with her chin. Down the stairs. = Each step a word in her posture and the rose persued by each person. Each p= erson relegated to one town. One town relegated to one question. Each town = brought one word and one letter appeared before the crowd. I see said all.= =20 We form Us. --=20 _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for just= US$9.95 per year! Powered by Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:35:41 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Chris Stroffolino Subject: Continuous Peasant on your Blog Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable HEY, THANKS PIERRE for mentioning us on your blog---maybe someday we could open for Nicole so we don't miss each other. It was good to see you too! Chris ---------- >From: Pierre Joris >To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >Subject: Recent NOMADICS blog posts >Date: Tue, Jun 14, 2005, 8:40 AM > > Recent posts on my NOMADICS blog: > > Dr. Charles Stein Roams Rome > > Trio Pamplemousse, my words sung by others, continuous peasant > > Florence Aubenas & Hussein Hanoun freed > > House of Books > > go to: http://pjoris.blogspot.com/ > ___________________________________________________________ > > The poet: always in partibus infidelium =97 Paul Celan > ___________________________________________________________ > Pierre Joris > 244 Elm Street > Albany NY 12202 > h: 518 426 0433 > c: 518 225 7123 > o: 518 442 40 85 > email: joris@albany.edu > http://www.albany.edu/~joris/ > blog:http://pjoris.blogspot.com/ > ____________________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:22:49 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Brett Fletcher Lauer Subject: NEW ISSUE CROWD MAGAZINE: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CROWD # 5 & 6 with work by: Eric Baus * Karen Brennan * Rachel Cohen * Pia Z. 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Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Oops--my response to Pierre was meant backchannel.... Anyway, TODAY JUNE 14th is the official RELEASE DATE of the second CONTINUOUS PEASANT album, INTENTIONAL GROUNDING. So, to celebrate that, my record label is offering a one-day discount deal-= - 20% off the price of the album if you, uh, ACT BEFORE MIDNIGHT PDST If you're interested in buying it, go to our website www.continuouspeasant.com or our label's website www.goodforks.com There should be ordering instructions there; and mention this offer or else they'll try to charge you the full price or feel free to backchannel me with every question Thank you from Continuous Peasant AND P.S. THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO CAME OUT AND SUPPORTED US ON OUR EAST COAST TOUR, and especially to those who put us up (put up with us) or offered to-= - Without you we would have lost not just our shirts but also our pants! & it was great to reconnect with so many people back east; many of whom i met in one way or another through this list.... (I plan to write a more detailed account when I get over this post-tour depression and get my voice back....) ---------- >From: Chris Stroffolino >To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >Subject: Continuous Peasant on your Blog >Date: Tue, Jun 14, 2005, 10:35 AM > > HEY, THANKS PIERRE for mentioning us on your blog---maybe someday we coul= d > open for Nicole so we don't miss each other. It was good to see you too! > > Chris > > > > ---------- >>From: Pierre Joris >>To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >>Subject: Recent NOMADICS blog posts >>Date: Tue, Jun 14, 2005, 8:40 AM >> > >> Recent posts on my NOMADICS blog: >> >> Dr. Charles Stein Roams Rome >> >> Trio Pamplemousse, my words sung by others, continuous peasant >> >> Florence Aubenas & Hussein Hanoun freed >> >> House of Books >> >> go to: http://pjoris.blogspot.com/ >> ___________________________________________________________ >> >> The poet: always in partibus infidelium =97 Paul Celan >> ___________________________________________________________ >> Pierre Joris >> 244 Elm Street >> Albany NY 12202 >> h: 518 426 0433 >> c: 518 225 7123 >> o: 518 442 40 85 >> email: joris@albany.edu >> http://www.albany.edu/~joris/ >> blog:http://pjoris.blogspot.com/ >> ____________________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:02:51 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Re: Creeley/Poe/Bernstein/Lawrence/Williams/Dickinson/bells bells bells bells bells! In-Reply-To: <004501c57088$25d2c3c0$7ac2f304@VAIO> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit The Poe inference of discussion has been making me think/ruminate on the darkness that seems to permeate this country regressively to deep levels by the day. In the vicinity of 70 years or so after the last public lynching in the United States, the US Senate bravely apologized for not having enacted laws that would have outlawed the practice. In spite of loosing the Civil War, the Confederacy obviously refused to die a natural death, but continued to work its will against people of color. Many now would say the Confederacy - the various reactionary limbs of the old South are, indeed, in control of the country, including 'our' military and its foreign policy, including war crimes of torture primarily against people of color, and certainly not against those of Christian faith. I thought it incredible that on the same day the Senate is making its apology for implicitly condoning lynching that Time magazine gives us a log blow by blow account of another borderline lynching the criminal torture of an Arab detainee at Guantanamo (a practice, one can only assume was/is used on multiple other detainees at Guantanamo and other such center.) And, on the same day of this revelation, and perhaps not dissimilar from the history of the United State Senate, we have to witness Vice-President Cheney get up and say the Q torture is a decent practice, essential to saving American lives, etc. I am sure the historic lynch mobs and their leaders said the same thing, that a good lynching was one that kept African-Americans and their sympathizers in their place. The Confederate Dunces are mad at it again. Torture, it appears, is the "lynchpin" of foreign policy. It also appears to be recipe for national death, and/or perpetual war. But back to Poe - more and more "The Pit and The Pendulum" appears to constitute a nationally self-destructive vision - the country tied down under the free wheeling rats and the blade. "...He observes that the pendulum will cut at a right angle to his body ..." It seems, at least, that dark to me. Fortunately, it also appears, even with the recruiting rats in the high schools, the young are voting with their feet. Stephen V Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com > There are some little known audio tapes of Creeley, Susan Howe, Bob Grenier > and others speaking about Dickinson. They were recorded in the mid 80s at a > Dickinson conference at New College of California, in San Francisco, where I > taught in the Poetics Program for 15 years. They reside in the library > there. Anyone interested might contact the College. > > GF > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ruth Lepson" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:58 PM > Subject: Re: Creeley/Poe/Bernstein/Lawrence/Williams/Dickinson/bells bells > bells bells bells! > > >> Many thanks to Gloria F and Stephen B--further rumination to come in >> response to yr thoughtful expansive analyses. >> Ruth Lepson >> >> >> On 6/13/05 12:27 PM, "Gloria Frym" wrote: >> >>> I'd like to add that Williams' essay on Poe seems to me one of the most >>> important. He reads Poe through Modernist psychological and political >>> eyes--posits that Poe both records and anticipates American alienation >>> from >>> self and body, both physical and spiritual, the emotional terror of a >>> vast >>> unknown continent on its way to Westward Ho (including shopping malls!) >>> and >>> empire. Whatever his intention, some of Poe's greatest stories now morph >>> back into physical parallels of 20th century horrors ("The Masque of the >>> Red >>> Death," easily reads as AIDS), and 21st century government sanctioned >>> physical torture. >>> "Ligeia," too, is a ghostly character, whose embodiment only becomes real >>> and beloved in death. As American Fascism promotes the culture of war, >>> Poe's "darkness" feels all too realistic these days. >>> Also, Poe was America's first real literary critic. His standards, >>> as >>> revealed in his numerous reviews of his contemporaries, were demanding >>> and >>> orthodox, akin to Clement Greenberg's in visual art. >>> And his short stories seem to me a poet's prose. There are no real >>> characters in Poe's so-called tales of ratiocination. Characters are >>> used >>> in the service of the text, and dimensions of a unnamed single speaker, >>> fairly incapable of conventional fictional strategies. >>> Lastly, that Whitman was one of the few who attended Poe's funeral >>> has >>> some significance. The American Optimist pays homage to the American >>> Pessimist, who is Noir as America. Poe dies long before the 1855 first >>> edition of Leaves of Grass. Both poets are groping for physical, >>> intellectual and aesthetic "American" morals and aesthetics that might >>> counter the puritanical (now morphed into fundamentalist) normative >>> standards. >>> As for Dickinson, I don't agree that her work is hermetic. The work >>> is >>> often elliptical and dense, but not without entry, providing the reader >>> who >>> can >>> accept multiplicity of "meaning", indeterminacy, sound, pun, >>> and other now familiar literary devices, >>> with pleasure. The work both doubts and confirms. She thought, as she >>> said, "New Englandly." >>> And rebelled grandly. As did Creeley. And were Called Back,as it >>> were, >>> differently. Not wanting to create a reductive argument about either, I >>> suggest that each are various and accessible and difficult and yet, more >>> interrogating, philosophical, domestic, and finally local rather than >>> hermetic in their poetics. >>> >>> Gloria Frym >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Stephen Baraban" >>> To: >>> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:38 PM >>> Subject: Creeley/Poe/Bernstein/Lawrence/Williams/Dickinson/bells bells >>> bells >>> bells bells! >>> >>> >>>> Yes, it was wonderful that Charles B. told us of the >>>> story behind Creeley's Ligeia libretto. If Creeley >>>> was willing to work on this text without knowing the >>>> composer very well, and wasn't so upset when the >>>> composing of the music didn't happen, it sounds like >>>> he was very pleased to be colloraborating with POE. >>>> >>>> I think as many of us as possible should make Poe's >>>> works part of our summer reading, and report back in >>>> say, September. The different visions people have of >>>> this elusive literary figure are quite intriguing. On >>>> the surface, D.H. Lawrence's conception of Poe (in >>>> Studies in Classic American Literature) as a >>>> sufferer/diagnostician writing from within a realm of >>>> decadence seems pleasingly consonant with one's niave >>>> reactions to EAP's works, though we know, of course >>>> that Poe was not the forever zonked-out sadsack seer >>>> that folklore pictures, but was very much a busy, >>>> critically-acute professional, as emphasized by W.C. >>>> Williams in the Poe chapter of _In The American >>>> Grain_. >>>> >>>> I was surprised to see Charles B., in the recent >>>> Creeley piece, place Poe amongst his list of people >>>> whose writings are in the middle between Whitman's >>>> "expansive, sexually explicit, and exuberant" works >>>> and Dickinson's "philosphical, hermetic, >>>> introspective" poems. Poe is expansive and exuberant, >>>> I wondered? And what is the sexuality in his writing >>>> except incest, and men's love of very young women, and >>>> the morbid desire to completely know the other that >>>> Lawrence notes? >>>> >>>> But as far as exuberance goes, maybe one reason I've >>>> never thought of this quality in relation to Poe is >>>> that I haven't taken "The Bells" seriously (as part of >>>> not taking the poems in general very seriously). But >>>> "Bells" is not so bad at all. I sign off with the >>>> beginning: >>>> >>>> Hear the sledges with the bells - >>>> Silver bells! >>>> What a world of merriment their melody foretells! >>>> How they tinkle, tinkle, tinkle, >>>> In the icy air of night! >>>> While the stars that oversprinkle >>>> All the heavens, seem to twinkle >>>> With a crystalline delight; >>>> Keeping time, time, time, >>>> In a sort of Runic rhyme, >>>> To the tintinnabulation that so musically wells >>>> From the bells, bells, bells, bells, >>>> Bells, bells, bells - >>>> From the jingling and the tinkling of the bells. >>>> >>>> >>>> --- Ruth Lepson wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Charles B, >>>>> >>>>> Thank you so much for taking the time to tell all >>>>> this. I will dip into Poe >>>>> & dear Bob's libretto & the Granary Books book. >>>>> >>>>> All best, >>>>> >>>>> Ruth Lepson >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> __________________________________ >>>> Discover Yahoo! >>>> Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. 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DOWNLOAD MP3S OR LISTEN TO LOFI VERSIONS http://www.soundclick.com/bands/7/bgyrl4life_music.htm FOR MORE INFO, TO GET @, BOOK OR SIGN ANY OF THESE SISTAS, EMAIL INFO@B-GYRL.COM... Anotha break b.r.e.a.d. projeck from Digable Records NMA http://www.digablerecords.com hehehehehe ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Be a friend to the oppressed and an enemy to the oppressor"\ --Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib (as)\ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html\ \ http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_comments/766_0_15_0_C/ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/ \ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:21:36 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Dodie Bellamy Subject: Fwd: Yerba Buena Center for the Arts: Joel looking to fill positions. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Status: U >From: TanJoel@aol.com >Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:57:26 EDT >Subject: Yerba Buena Center for the Arts: Joel looking to fill positions. >To: Brian_Bouldrey@antiochla.edu, belladodie@earthlink.net, > elz@youthspeaks.org, kirkread@earthlink.net, larrybob@io.com, > parissa_ebrahimzadeh@antiochla.edu, jimnatal@comcast.net, > richard_beban@antiochla.edu, gmguddi@ilstu.edu, > gregw@suspectthoughts.com, Suspectthoughts@aol.com, > sean@velvetmafia.com, andi_dowdy@antiochla.edu, jeffc69@earthlink.= net, > karyin@lyric.org, dolan@hify.org, jkass@youthspeaks.org, > javid@apiwellness.org, tessie@zerodivide.org, >maiana@maianaminahal.com, > MIT33ZI@aol.com, dsuh@ahschc.org, kmhamner@hotmail.com, > gbabaee@taleo.com, james@youthspeaks.org, nobles@usfca.edu, > Vkamani@aol.com, editors@redhen.org, icascarino@ahschc.org, > ashook@mills.edu, mvillanueva@witty.com, naomi_han@hotmail.com, > tonetski503@yahoo.com, linda_nietes@sbcglobal.net, Jjacintojr@aol.= com, > mdecker@ocasf.org, macreason@ocasf.org, mdubose2@earthlink.net, > franciswong88@hotmail.com, mamborock@earthlink.net, > jen@manicdpress.com, ronagirl@hotmail.com, events@redhen.org >X-ELNK-AV: 0 > >Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"UTF-8" >Content-Language: en > > >ALL INTERESTED APPLICANTS PLEASE respond to >JOBS@YBCA.ORG AND CC: >JTAN@YBCA.ORG > >Hey Family, Friends, Community: > >I'm looking to fill two positions (1 full, and 1 part-time) for the >Community Engagement Department. The full-time position is for our >Youth and Educators program and the half-time is an assistant >position for our public programs and commnunity outreach. I'm >looking for candidates that have an arts background (pref. visual >arts and/or film) but I'm also open to folks who are from the >humanities/social service/social justice background provided that >their work included arts-based education. > >Please have all applicants send cover letter and resume to >JOBS@YBCA.ORG AND CC: >JTAN@YBCA.ORG. > >The job announcements are pasted on this email and attached as Word Documen= ts. > > >COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ASSISTANT > > > >DEPARTMENT: COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT > >REPORTS TO: COMMUNITY >ENGAGEMENT MANAGER > > STATUS: >NON-EXEMPT POSITION > > SALARY: >$12-14/hour DOE > >WORK SCHEDULE: PART TIME (20-28 hours/week) > > >MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY > >EVENTS EVENINGS & WEEKENDS > > > >The Community Engagement Assistant is responsible for assisting with >the planning, implementation, and evaluation of the YBCA Community >Engagement, Education Resource Room, and Public Programs. Working in >collaboration with the Center's various departments and community >advisory bodies, and under the supervision of the Community >Engagement Manager, the Community Engagement Assistant is expected >to coordinate the logistics and assist in the planning of a complex, >thoughtful, multi-faceted program of activities that connect the art >and artists of YBCA with the diverse constituencies of the Center. >Specific programs include > > > >=B7 Public Programs: Educational and public program events that >contextualizes the Center's artistic programming and themes. These >programs are intended to deepen the engagement of currently >attending audiences as well as developing new audiences. These >events include lectures, musical performances, artist's talks, >literary readings, gallery walk-through tours, and panel >discussions. > >=B7 Education Resource Room: The Center's public space that >presents publications, visual art, film/video, website resources, >and public programs that contextualize artistic programming. > >=B7 Community Outreach and Building: Grassroots community >outreach and building efforts in aimed at diverse SF communities. > > > >PRINCIPAL RESPONSIBILITIES > > > >=B7 Oversight and coordination of Center and off-site public >programs including contractual and logistical oversight of >contracted artists, scholars, and other panelists. > >=B7 Logistical oversight of the design and implementation of >the Education Resource Room in cooperation with community >artists/advocates and the Center's visual arts and facilities team. > >=B7 Grassroots community outreach and organizing efforts that >support the Center's overall Community Engagement strategies. > >=B7 Development of descriptive program text for marketing and >development purposes. > >=B7 Assist in the recruitment and coordination of volunteers and int= erns. > >=B7 Serve as liaison between the Center and various community >constituents. > >=B7 Represent the CE department internally and the Center at >external meetings and events. > >=B7 Other duties as necessary. > > > >MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS > > > >=B7 Bachelor's degree in visual or performing arts, education >or similar field of study or related work experience. > >=B7 At least 2 years experience providing administrative >support to arts-related programs. > >=B7 Knowledge and experience working with diverse community >organizations and gatekeepers. > >=B7 Knowledge of educational theories. > >=B7 Experience using exhibitions, film/video and performing >arts as references for current ideas and social issues. > >=B7 Experience as liaison to community and arts organizations, >colleges/universities. > >=B7 Capacity to effectively manage multiple tasks under >pressure of deadlines. > >=B7 Excellent written, interpersonal, and verbal communication >skills, including public speaking. > >=B7 Familiarity with budget and contractual processes. > >=B7 Ability to work effectively as a team member and >independently with minimum supervision. > >=B7 Experience with PC or Macintosh computer systems and software. > >=B7 Ability to work effectively in partnership with people of >diverse cultural backgrounds. > > > >COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ASSOCIATE I > > > >DEPARTMENT: COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT > >REPORTS TO: COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MANAGER > > STATUS: >EXEMPT POSITION > > SALARY: >$30-34,000 DOE > >WORK SCHEDULE: FULL TIME (37.5 hours/week) > > >MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY > >EVENTS EVENINGS & WEEKENDS > > > >The Community Engagement Associate is responsible for the planning, >implementation, and evaluation of the YBCA Community Engagement >Program's youth and educator's programs. Working in collaboration >with the Center's various departments and community advisory bodies, >and under the supervision of the Community Engagement Manager, the >Community Engagement Associate is expected to coordinate a complex, >thoughtful, multi-faceted program of activities that connect the art >and artists of YBCA with the diverse constituencies of the Center. >Specific programs include: > > > >=B7 Young Artist's at Work (YAAW) Program: a 12-month arts >education and internship program for middle and high school youths >designed to cultivate future generations of activists. > >=B7 Educator Programs: Coordination of SFUSD Teacher's >Quarterly events, K-12 "Discovering Performance" Programs, and >school tours. > > > >PRINCIPAL RESPONSIBILITIES > > > >=B7 Oversight of YAAW Program including all administrative and >programmatic coordination (development, implementation, and >evaluation) of youth and educators programs including management >oversight of program subcontractors. > >=B7 Under the guidance and subject to the final approval of the >Community Engagement Manager, develop budgets and budget analysis >for all related programs. > >=B7 Recruit, supervise, and evaluate program support staff, >interns, youth advisory members, and volunteers as necessary. > >=B7 Develop and implement youth recruitment and retention. > >=B7 Plan and implement on-site and off-site public programs for >youths that are related to but not exclusive of the Center's >exhibitions, film/videos and performing arts, as well as programs >that examine art practice, theory, history, and social movements. > >=B7 Assist in the design and program implementation of the >Education Resource Room with regard to any youth related >contributions. > >=B7 Select speakers and presenters, coordinate curricula, >arrange facilities and technical personnel, create and monitor >program budget, evaluate programs for effectiveness for all youth >and educators related programs. > >=B7 Serve as liaison between the Center and various community >constituents. > >=B7 Write interpretive art education materials for youths and educat= ors. > >=B7 Assist in writing grants for college and youth programs funding. > >=B7 Represent the CE department internally and the Center at >external meetings and events. > >=B7 Other duties as needed. > > > >MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS > > > >=B7 Bachelor's degree in visual or performing arts, education >or similar field of study. > >=B7 At least 2 years experience planning and implementing >multidisciplinary arts programs that serve K-12 audiences. > >=B7 Knowledge and experience working with diverse community >organizations and gatekeepers. > >=B7 Knowledge of youth learning theories. > >=B7 Experience using exhibitions, film/video and performing >arts as references for current ideas and social issues. > >=B7 Experience creating partnerships with community and arts >organizations, K-12 schools. > >=B7 Capacity to effectively manage multiple tasks under >pressure of deadlines. > >=B7 Excellent written, interpersonal, and verbal communication >skills, including public speaking. > >=B7 Familiarity with budget and contractual processes. > >=B7 Ability to work effectively as a team member and >independently with minimum supervision. > >=B7 Experience with PC or Macintosh computer systems and software. > >=B7 Ability to work effectively in partnership with people of >diverse cultural backgrounds. > > > > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:41:12 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Henry A. 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Langley, Chicago, IL 60628 Or, fax to: 773-702-7212=09=09=09=09=09=09Or, call: 773-702-7000 This is Called Moving (ISBN 0817351604) discounted price: $23.00 each=09=09=09=09$________________ Illinois residents add 8.75% sales tax=09=09=09=09$ ________________ U.S. orders: add $4.50 postage for the first book=20 and $1.00 for each additional book=09=09=09=09$ ________________ Canada residents add 7% GST=09=09=09=09=09$ ________________ International orders: add $5.50 postage for the first book and $1.00 for each additional book=09 =20 $________________ Enclosed as payment in full=09=09=09=09=09$ ________________ (Make checks payable to The University of Alabama Press)=09=09 Bill my: ____ Visa ____ MasterCard ____ Discover ____ American=20 Express Account number=09_______________________________ Daytime phone=09_______________________________ Expiration date=09_______________________________ Full name=09=09_______________________________ Signature=09=09_______________________________ Shipping Address:=09_______________________________ =09=09=09_______________________________ =09=09=09________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:53:25 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: amy king Subject: This time, it's for real: Save NPR and PBS In-Reply-To: <1544.172.147.45.112.1118765453.squirrel@172.147.45.112> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Seems very much worth looking at ... Dear MoveOn member, You know that email petition that keeps circulating about how Congress is slashing funding for NPR and PBS? Well, now it's actually true. (Really. Check the footnotes if you don't believe us.) A House panel has voted to eliminate all public funding for NPR and PBS, starting with "Sesame Street," "Reading Rainbow," and other commercial-free children's shows. If approved, this would be the most severe cut in the history of public broadcasting, threatening to pull the plug on Big Bird, Cookie Monster and Oscar the Grouch. Sign the petition telling Congress to save NPR and PBS: http://www.moveon.org/publicbroadcasting/?id=5663-1050723-dgjB6wX556xFuMPzBZJz6A&t=3 If we can reach 250,000 signatures by the end of the week, we'll put Congress on notice. After you sign the petition, please pass this message along to any friends, neighbors or co-workers who count on NPR and PBS. The cuts would slash 25% of the federal funding this year—$100 million—and end funding altogether within two years.1 In particular, the loss could kill beloved children's shows like "Sesame Street," "Clifford the Big Red Dog," "Arthur" and "Postcards from Buster." Rural stations and those serving low-income communities might not survive. Other stations would have to increase corporate sponsorships. This shameful vote is only the latest partisan assault on public TV and radio. The Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which exists to shield public TV and radio from political pressure, is now chaired by Kenneth Tomlinson, a staunch Republican close to the White House. Tomlinson has already forced one-sided conservative programs on the air, even though Tomlinson's own surveys show that most people consider NPR "fair and balanced" and they actually trust public broadcasting more than commercial network news.2 Tomlinson also spent taxpayer dollars on a witch hunt to root out "liberal bias," including a secret investigation of Bill Moyers and PBS' popular investigative show, "NOW." Even though the public paid for the investigation, Tomlinson has refused to release the findings.3 The lawmakers who proposed the cuts aren't just trying to save money in the budget—they're trying to decimate any news outlets who question those in power. This is an ideological attack on our free press. Talk about bad timing. Every day brings another story about media consolidation. Radio, TV stations and newspapers are increasingly controlled by a few massive corporate conglomerates trying to maximize profits at the expense of quality journalism. Now more than ever, we need publicly funded media who will ask hard questions and focus on stories that affect real people, instead of Michael Jackson and the runaway bride. As the House and Senate consider this frightening effort to kill public broadcasting, they need to hear from its owners—you. http://www.moveon.org/publicbroadcasting/?id=5663-1050723-dgjB6wX556xFuMPzBZJz6A&t=4 Thank you for all you do, –Noah, Wes, Jennifer, Eli and the MoveOn.org Team Tuesday, June 14th, 2005 P.S. You can learn more about the threat to public broadcasting from our friends at Free Press at: http://www.moveon.org/r?r=748 Sources: 1. "Public Broadcasting Targeted By House," Washington Post, June 10, 2005 http://www.moveon.org/r?r=745 2. "CPB's 'Secrets and Lies': Why the CPB Board Hid its Polls Revealing Broad Public Support for PBS and NPR," Center for Digital Democracy, April 27, 2005 http://www.moveon.org/r?r=746 3. "Republican Chairman Exerts Pressure on PBS, Alleging Biases," New York Times, May 2, 2005 http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0502-01.htm ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:58:35 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Irving Weiss Subject: Ron Silliman's blog MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Ron Silliman, I was so taken by your blog on the difference between publishing poetry online and in print, by the wide area you covered, that I hardly know where to begin my appreciation. You prompted the following. 1. The greatest advantage to publishing online is that you get known about much more widely than in print, apart from the much longer time it takes fo= r any publication to respond to a postal submission. Even as you remark: prin= t is welcome if you get invited but I wd say hardly preferable otherwise--unless one thinks of online existence as insubstantial. The prejudice of some literary minds. 2. I once thought of the computer as too hard for an alpha person who was not numeric. I changed when back in 1991 the book publisher who accepted a prose ms. of mine wd give me 15% royalties, only if I cd send it on a flopp= y disk (which I had hardly heard of), otherwise only 10%. So, I bought a Mac and grudgingly learned. 3. About those you know with macular degeneration who won=B9t go near a computer. There are degreees of macular degeneration. I=B9m in my eighties an= d have it in both eyes. But not so badly in my left eye that I can=B9t read. I won=B9t drive anymore and reading is no fun, but on the computer screen I can work with 16-point print. I know that lots of people have bought computers and later discover they have little practical use for them. On the other hand those who feel computers are outside their limits may discover a new bond they hadn=B9t anticipated. The computer can be considered a visual aid for the m.d.=B9d. 4. I began as a word poet, actually in traditional verse, but long before I dared approach a computer I was also doing what I didn=B9t at first call visual poetry though I knew most of it wasn=B9t concrete. I still can=B9t figur= e out Photoshop and I still do a lot of photocopying outside (and I still write word poems), but the big difference in publishing online is that people discover you who would never have known you existed in print. 5. I note that Poets & Writers is still heavily print oriented. I nearly gave up my subscription because if I=B9m looking for mss. wanted, I find more on the net. The main reason I still subscribe is that over the years people have re-established contact with me through their directory--but, interestingly, they were people no longer young, and, yes, aged writers who are not online.=20 All to the Good, Irving Weiss www.irvingweiss.net ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:29:01 +0000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joseph Bradshaw Subject: call for THE LAND/an art site, from Jeffrey Lee Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Artists and Writers: Proposals are now being accepted for an October 2005 land/language exhibition at THE LAND/an art site, an outdoor exhibition space near Mountainair, NM, devoted to site-specific, environmentally low-impact, land-based art. Work to be considered may include installation, text, sound/audio, performance, or any other appropriate medium, and may address a broad range of ideas concerning the nature of language, its place in our relationship with the natural environment, and its uses in the context of environmental art. Deadline for proposals: July 8 Exhibition dates: October 2-30 Please send a short description of the proposed project accompanied by five slides/digital images or writing/audio samples, SASE, and $20.00 entry fee to: THE LAND/an art site 419 Granite NW Albuquerque, NM 87102 For more information please contact Jeffrey Lee: jalee@cybermesa.com (505) 843-8170 THE LAND/an art site, Inc. is a nonprofit organization. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:23:07 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Grant Matthew Jenkins Subject: Calling Buck Downs! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Buck, Would you please backchannel me at ? I want to ask you about croniamantal. Grant G. Matthew Jenkins, Asst. Prof. Director of the Writing Program Department of English University of Tulsa 600 S. College Ave Tulsa, OK 74104 918.631.2573 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:38:26 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mairead Byrne Subject: Re: Ron Silliman's blog Comments: To: irvingweiss@OPTONLINE.NET Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Dear Irving, I very much enjoyed your clear post below; what you say about print/web = publication tallies with my experience. Thanks for the link to your site: = I really enjoyed the samples from VISUAL VOICES: each of the four = delighted me. Mairead Mair=E9ad Byrne Assistant Professor of English Rhode Island School of Design Providence, RI 02903 www.wildhoneypress.com www.maireadbyrne.blogspot.com >>> irvingweiss@OPTONLINE.NET 06/14/05 5:58 PM >>> Ron Silliman, I was so taken by your blog on the difference between publishing poetry online and in print, by the wide area you covered, that = I hardly know where to begin my appreciation. You prompted the following. 1. The greatest advantage to publishing online is that you get known about much more widely than in print, apart from the much longer time it takes = for any publication to respond to a postal submission. Even as you remark: = print is welcome if you get invited but I wd say hardly preferable otherwise--unless one thinks of online existence as insubstantial. The prejudice of some literary minds. 2. I once thought of the computer as too hard for an alpha person who was not numeric. I changed when back in 1991 the book publisher who accepted a prose ms. of mine wd give me 15% royalties, only if I cd send it on a = floppy disk (which I had hardly heard of), otherwise only 10%. So, I bought a Mac and grudgingly learned. 3. About those you know with macular degeneration who won=B9t go near a computer. There are degreees of macular degeneration. I=B9m in my eighties = and have it in both eyes. But not so badly in my left eye that I can=B9t read. = I won=B9t drive anymore and reading is no fun, but on the computer screen I = can work with 16-point print. I know that lots of people have bought computers and later discover they have little practical use for them. On the other hand those who feel computers are outside their limits may discover a new bond they hadn=B9t anticipated. The computer can be considered a visual = aid for the m.d.=B9d. 4. I began as a word poet, actually in traditional verse, but long before = I dared approach a computer I was also doing what I didn=B9t at first call visual poetry though I knew most of it wasn=B9t concrete. I still can=B9t = figure out Photoshop and I still do a lot of photocopying outside (and I still write word poems), but the big difference in publishing online is that people discover you who would never have known you existed in print. 5. I note that Poets & Writers is still heavily print oriented. I nearly gave up my subscription because if I=B9m looking for mss. wanted, I find = more on the net. The main reason I still subscribe is that over the years = people have re-established contact with me through their directory--but, interestingly, they were people no longer young, and, yes, aged writers = who are not online.=20 All to the Good, Irving Weiss www.irvingweiss.net ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:45:19 +0100 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Trevor Joyce Subject: SoundEye Festival, July 4-10 Comments: To: britISH-POETS@JISCMAIL.AC.UK, Poetryetc and poetics , ukpOETRY@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed SoundEye Cork International Poetry Festival =95 language opening =A0 As language strikes both ear and eye, the SoundEye Festival will bring =20= together poets, musicians, visual and video artists to note it and =20 respond. Practitioners, performers, theorists will gather to explore =20 language, to untie the familiar knots, unpack meaning, history, routine =20= and play, and reassemble them to offer a new field of possibilities. Running from July 4-10 at the Christian Brothers School on O=92Sullivan =20= Quay, the SoundEye Festival celebrates its ninth year in 2005, having =20= grown from a weekend of unconventional poetry into a week-long =20 exploration of the arts of the word. The purpose in gathering almost fifty poets and performers to Cork for =20= this event is to celebrate the opening up of language to disciplines =20 and experiences beyond those familiar in Irish poetry, to enjoy the =20 achievement of those who have remade their medium here and elsewhere, =20= and, as always, to start over. Participants in SoundEye 2005will include American poets such as =20 Charles Bernstein and Nathaniel Mackey who are noted not only for the =20= surprise and quality of their writing, but also for the power of their =20= performance. Susan Howe, with David Grubbs on computer and piano, will =20= perform a version of her poems Thorow and Melville's Marginalia in =20 which Irish and American history intermesh. Fanny Howe, Mark Weiss, Catherine Wagner, Keith Tuma and Carlos =20 Blackburn complete the U.S. presence, along with Irish expatriates =20 David Lloyd and Mair=E9ad Byrne. =46rom further afield we have Yang Lian, in exile from China since = 1989, =20 and Alison Croggon, poet, novelist, librettist from Australia. Amir Or, =20= Israeli coordinator of Poets for Peace, will be reading with English =20 poet and translator Fiona Sampson. Participants coming from the U.K. will include Tom Leonard, Bill =20 Griffiths, John Wilkinson, Kelvin Corcoran, Lee Harwood and Peter =20 Riley, each with a record of over thirty years exploration and =20 achievement among the possibilities of language. We will also have the world premi=E8re of Wendy Mulford's The Unmaking, =20= specially commissioned for SoundEye, with music composed by Michael =20 Parsons and performed by Angharad Davies. This work is based on the =20 highland clearances on the Scottish island of Skye in the 1840s. Maggie O'Sullivan, whose father was a sean-n=F3s singer from Skibbereen =20= in west Cork, will work with traditional musicians from the Cork area =20= in her voicing of fragments from memory and lost traditions. Among the Irish participants will be many who have worked over the =20 decades within the culture of small-press publication, where lack of =20 distribution and public profile is repaid by freedom to take risks, =20 fail better and more interestingly, and achieve new things. Michael Smith, Geoffrey Squires, Augustus Youngand Trevor Joyce =20 represent the generation of New Writers' Press, to mark the 30th =20 anniversary of which SoundEye was founded in 1997. Maurice Scully, =20 Catherine Walsh, Randolph Healy and Billy Mills are voices from the 80s =20= and 90s in Ireland, still sounding, still strong. Hugh Maxton has been =20= another independent voice, throughout. SoundEye will pay also tribute =20= to the spirit of poets Brian Coffey and Robert Creeley in two =20 multi-reader sessions. SoundEye 2005 occurs at the hinge moment between two other major events =20= in the programme for Cork as European Capital of Culture for 2005: the =20= Cork Caucus, and the Vinyl project. We share a venue with Vinyl, and also a number of participants. =46rom =20= the start of July until its own conclusion on August 13th, Vinyl will =20= provide a bookshop selling books by SoundEye poets, many unavailable =20 through normal channels. We have in common with the Caucus a concern for where the arts, in our =20= case specifically the arts of language, stand in relation to society. =20= We will, therefore, 'exchange embassies' with the Caucus, with SoundEye =20= occupying a slot in their programme, and vice versa. =A0 For more information on these events, please see www.cork2005.ie All Sound Eye events except that at 6.30, Monday 4th, will be held in =20= the Christian Brother's School, Sullivan's Quay, Cork. (Entrance via =20 Cove Street) Ticketing: Event =808/=805 Concession; Day =8016/=8010; Festival =8090/=80= 55 =20 (Payable at venue) For more information, please contact: Trevor Joyce, +353 (0)21 4301223, email: =20 trevorjoyce@fullbrightweb.org=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=20 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 www.soundeye.org/festival =A0 =A0 =A0 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:21:40 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: maxpaul@SFSU.EDU Subject: Re: NEW AMERICAN WRITING NUMBER 23 NOW AVAILABLE--Canadian and Vietnames Poets' Names In-Reply-To: <1118757502.42aee27ee6538@webmail.sfsu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Several people have requested a full list ofthe Vietnamese and Canadian poets in NAW. Here they are: Dang Dinh Hung, Van Cao, Hoang Hung, Thanh Thao, Nguyen Do, Nhat Le, Nguyen Quang Thieu, Vi Thuy Linh, and Nguyen Dui. Christian Bok, Lisa Robertson, Jason Camlot, George Murray, Tammy Armstrong, Carmine Starnino, Louise Bak, David McGimpsey, Jon Paul Fiorentino, Nathalie Stephens, Stephanie Bolster, John Stiles, Mark Cochrane, Paul Vermeersch, Lisa Pasold, Ken Babstock, Bil Kennedy and in collaboration Darren Wershler-Henry, and Ray Hsu. Quoting maxpaul@sfsu.edu: > NEW AMERICAN WIRITNG subscriptions also available. $27 for 3 issues. > > > Quoting maxpaul@sfsu.edu: > > > NEW AMERICAN WRITING #23 contains the following special features: new > poems > > by > > Mahmoud Darwish, Vallejo's "The Black Heralds," Nine Vietnames Poets, The > > New > > Canadian Poetry, (featuring 20 writers including Christian Bok, Lisa > > Robertson, > > Ray Hsu, and many others, ed. by Todd Swift),and poems by Elizabeth > > Robinson, > > Andrew Joron, Donald Revell, Clayton Eshleman, Stephen Ratcliffe, Aaron > > Shurin, > > Gloria Frym, George Albon, Dara Wierm Stacy Doris, Connie Deanovich, Linh > > Dinh, > > Dan Beachy-Quick, Noelle Kocot, GC Waldrep, Sarah Riggs, Laynie Brown, > > Philip > > Metres, Matthew Cooperman, Susan Firer, Kathleen Ossip, and many others. > > > > 243 pages > > $10 > > > > Order from NAW, 369 Molino, Mill Valley CA 94941 > > or go online to www.newamerican writing.com to use a credit card. > > > > All back issues (except sold out #4) on sale to list members for $5/copy. > > Email us for complete list. Must be purchased by check directly to us. > > > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:07:14 +1000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: K Zervos Subject: Re: Poetry World Radio---new poetry web radio station In-Reply-To: <1544.172.147.45.112.1118765453.squirrel@172.147.45.112> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can we submit via ftp or zip attachment? I have some sound files in flash format http://live-wirez.gu.edu.au/Staff/Komninos/Cyber/hscpoems/jukebox.html cheers komninos komninos zervos lecturer, convenor of CyberStudies major School of Arts Griffith University homepage: http://www.gu.edu.au/ppages/k_zervos broadband experiments: http://users.bigpond.net.au/mangolegs -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.3/15 - Release Date: 14/06/05 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:23:54 +1000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: K Zervos Subject: Re: Ron Silliman's blog In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I enjoyed the discussion on silliman's blog I enjoyed irving's response and his visual poetry I appreciate the observation that web publication has equal or greater cultural value to poets these days. I particularly liked the comment about waiting months to receive a reply from print publishers, web publication being more immediate. He enjoyed mairead's post He related immediately to sabbatical He laughed when he got to=20 THE STIGMA OF SELF-PUBLICATION I am so over it. And smiled widely when i read, but had to change, Sky - the minds television It is time now to say to make a very bold modernist statement: whether old or young, or from different parts of the world, this multiplicity that is poetry somehow unites us. Cheers Must now wake the children and prepare them for school My best email is done when they are asleep My best poetry when they are awake Cheers komninos komninos zervos lecturer, convenor of CyberStudies major School of Arts Griffith University Room 3.25 Multimedia Building G23 Gold Coast Campus Parkwood PMB 50 Gold Coast Mail Centre Queensland 9726 Australia Phone 07 5552 8872 Fax 07 5552 8141 homepage: http://www.gu.edu.au/ppages/k_zervos broadband experiments: http://users.bigpond.net.au/mangolegs |||-----Original Message----- |||From: UB Poetics discussion group = [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] |||On Behalf Of Mairead Byrne |||Sent: Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:38 AM |||To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU |||Subject: Re: Ron Silliman's blog ||| |||Dear Irving, ||| |||I very much enjoyed your clear post below; what you say about = print/web |||publication tallies with my experience. Thanks for the link to your |||site: I really enjoyed the samples from VISUAL VOICES: each of the = four |||delighted me. ||| |||Mairead ||| ||| |||Mair=E9ad Byrne |||Assistant Professor of English |||Rhode Island School of Design |||Providence, RI 02903 |||www.wildhoneypress.com |||www.maireadbyrne.blogspot.com |||>>> irvingweiss@OPTONLINE.NET 06/14/05 5:58 PM >>> |||Ron Silliman, I was so taken by your blog on the difference between |||publishing poetry online and in print, by the wide area you covered, = that |||I |||hardly know where to begin my appreciation. You prompted the = following. ||| |||1. The greatest advantage to publishing online is that you get known |||about |||much more widely than in print, apart from the much longer time it = takes |||for |||any publication to respond to a postal submission. Even as you = remark: |||print |||is welcome if you get invited but I wd say hardly preferable |||otherwise--unless one thinks of online existence as insubstantial. = The |||prejudice of some literary minds. ||| |||2. I once thought of the computer as too hard for an alpha person who = was |||not numeric. I changed when back in 1991 the book publisher who = accepted |||a |||prose ms. of mine wd give me 15% royalties, only if I cd send it on a |||floppy |||disk (which I had hardly heard of), otherwise only 10%. So, I bought = a |||Mac |||and grudgingly learned. ||| |||3. About those you know with macular degeneration who won=B9t go near = a |||computer. There are degreees of macular degeneration. I=B9m in my = eighties |||and |||have it in both eyes. But not so badly in my left eye that I can=B9t = read. |||I |||won=B9t drive anymore and reading is no fun, but on the computer = screen I |||can |||work with 16-point print. I know that lots of people have bought |||computers |||and later discover they have little practical use for them. On the = other |||hand those who feel computers are outside their limits may discover a = new |||bond they hadn=B9t anticipated. The computer can be considered a = visual aid |||for the m.d.=B9d. ||| |||4. I began as a word poet, actually in traditional verse, but long = before |||I |||dared approach a computer I was also doing what I didn=B9t at first = call |||visual poetry though I knew most of it wasn=B9t concrete. I still = can=B9t |||figure |||out Photoshop and I still do a lot of photocopying outside (and I = still |||write word poems), but the big difference in publishing online is = that |||people discover you who would never have known you existed in print. ||| |||5. I note that Poets & Writers is still heavily print oriented. I = nearly |||gave up my subscription because if I=B9m looking for mss. wanted, I = find |||more |||on the net. The main reason I still subscribe is that over the years |||people |||have re-established contact with me through their directory--but, |||interestingly, they were people no longer young, and, yes, aged = writers |||who |||are not online. ||| |||All to the Good, ||| |||Irving Weiss |||www.irvingweiss.net ||| |||-- |||No virus found in this incoming message. |||Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. |||Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.3/15 - Release Date: = 14/06/05 ||| --=20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.3/15 - Release Date: 14/06/05 =20 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:45:47 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Poetry Project Subject: Notes from the Poetry Project Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable THE POETRY PROJECT wishes you a good summer=8Bwe=B9ve had a great run this season and are excited to continue in September with more readings and events to celebrate our 40th Anniversary! Stay tuned...and see you soon! FEVA HOSTS CITY COUNCIL CANDIDATES FORUM ON THE FUTURE OF ARTS & ARTISTS ON THE LOWER EAST SIDE June 16th at the Pioneer Theater: 155 E. 3rd St. New York, NY, June 7, 2005 The Federation of East Village Artists (FEVA) asks =B3should we stay or should we go?=B2 at a forum about the Future of arts and artists on the Lower East Side with the four candidates vying for Councilmember Margarita Lopez=B9s Council District 2 city council seat. The forum will take place on Thursday, June 16 from 6 to 8 pm at the Pioneer Theater (155 E. 3rd St.). Candidates Brian Kavanagh, Rosie Mendez, Chris Papajohn and Gur Tsabar will speak at this event, moderated b= y Long time arts activist and board member Kevin Duggan. Council District 2 includes Grammercy Park, the East Village, Lower East Side, and Murray Hill. The discussion at the forum will focus on issues that affect the artistic community of the East Village and Lower East Side, including artist housing, healthcare, and performance space, with opportunities for citizens to dialogue directly with the candidates. This event is free and open to the public. FEVA promotes opportunities for artists today while honoring the work of legendary neighborhood artists, by working collectively with artists, arts organizations, business owners, community groups, and the public. FEVA=B9s signature activity is the annual HOWL! Festival of East Village Arts, a celebration of the arts held in local venues, culminating with three Days of free events in Tompkins Square Park (August 21-28, 2005). Contact: Lauren Fitzgerald 212.505.2225 laurenfitzgerald@howlfestival.com Sincerely, Jen Kim Operations Coordinator FEVA 539 East 6th St. #1D New York, NY 10009 www.fevanyc.org; www.howlfestival.com Tel: 212.505.2225 email: jen@howlfestival.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:11:19 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: William Allegrezza Subject: Moria and e-books MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have decided to start offering e-books through moria (www.moriapoetry.com ). Each e-book will have a print-on-demand option available with it. If you have manuscripts you would like to submit, feel free to send them to me at editor@moriapoetry.com. On another note, don't forget to submit for the Heartland Poetry Prize being offered by Field Press (www.fieldpress.com). Bill Allegrezza www.moriapoetry.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:25:06 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Derek White Subject: Peter Markus' the Singing Fish In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For those in NY, a review of Peter Markus' The Singing Fish is featured in this week's NY Press. It's also up online at: http://nypress.com/18/24/books/michaelcboyko.cfm A review of the Singing Fish by Norman Lock also went up recently in elimae: http://elimae.com/essays/Lock/RevSinging.html For those in Michigan, Peter will be reading at Athena Bookshop in Kalamazoo, Michigan this saturday March 18 at 1.p.m. http://www.booksite.com/texis/scripts/community?sid=5456 If you are in NY, you'll have to wait til July 12 to see/hear him read at Junno's. To the water fishes, Derek White ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:55:07 +0100 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Lawrence Upton Subject: Re: Notes from the Poetry Project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Look It's either THE POETRY PROJECT wish you a good summer season and are excited or THE POETRY PROJECT wishes you a good summer season and is excited L ----- Original Message ----- From: "Poetry Project" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:45 PM Subject: Notes from the Poetry Project THE POETRY PROJECT wishes you a good summer season and are excited to continue in September with more readings and events to celebrate our 40th Anniversary! Stay tuned...and see you soon! FEVA HOSTS CITY COUNCIL CANDIDATES FORUM ON THE FUTURE OF ARTS & ARTISTS ON THE LOWER EAST SIDE June 16th at the Pioneer Theater: 155 E. 3rd St. New York, NY, June 7, 2005 The Federation of East Village Artists (FEVA) asks ³should we stay or should we go?² at a forum about the Future of arts and artists on the Lower East Side with the four candidates vying for Councilmember Margarita Lopez¹s Council District 2 city council seat. The forum will take place on Thursday, June 16 from 6 to 8 pm at the Pioneer Theater (155 E. 3rd St.). Candidates Brian Kavanagh, Rosie Mendez, Chris Papajohn and Gur Tsabar will speak at this event, moderated by Long time arts activist and board member Kevin Duggan. Council District 2 includes Grammercy Park, the East Village, Lower East Side, and Murray Hill. The discussion at the forum will focus on issues that affect the artistic community of the East Village and Lower East Side, including artist housing, healthcare, and performance space, with opportunities for citizens to dialogue directly with the candidates. This event is free and open to the public. FEVA promotes opportunities for artists today while honoring the work of legendary neighborhood artists, by working collectively with artists, arts organizations, business owners, community groups, and the public. FEVA¹s signature activity is the annual HOWL! Festival of East Village Arts, a celebration of the arts held in local venues, culminating with three Days of free events in Tompkins Square Park (August 21-28, 2005). Contact: Lauren Fitzgerald 212.505.2225 laurenfitzgerald@howlfestival.com Sincerely, Jen Kim Operations Coordinator FEVA 539 East 6th St. #1D New York, NY 10009 www.fevanyc.org; www.howlfestival.com Tel: 212.505.2225 email: jen@howlfestival.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 18:12:20 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Haas Bianchi Subject: Re: Jessica Smith, Broken Toilet In-Reply-To: <002c01c5706c$8604d650$3a243318@administpii39e> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This sounds like a Henry Miller Novel R -----Original Message----- From: UB Poetics discussion group [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Schlesinger Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 6:06 PM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Jessica Smith, Broken Toilet Dear All, While out of the country last year, Jessica Smith subletted, and subsequently trashed my flat (broken toilet, tampons on the porch, dirty underwear in the silverware, etc.) She skipped town in the night, with bills and rent unpaid, plants dead, and the heat on at 80 degrees in the middle of a Buffalo winter. If anyone has her contact information, it would be greatly appreciated. Sorry to cloud the list with my own dirty laundry, but this was not merely a violation of personal trust, but a violation of the communal trust we share on and off this list, together. Cheers, Kyle ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:24:22 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mairead Byrne Subject: Re: Jessica Smith, Broken Toilet Comments: To: saudade@COMCAST.NET Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Too right Ray. And you can only imagine the sort of damage that might = have been done had she been actually *in* the country. Mairead >>> saudade@COMCAST.NET 09/03/05 7:12 PM >>> This sounds like a Henry Miller Novel R -----Original Message----- From: UB Poetics discussion group [mailto:POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Schlesinger Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 6:06 PM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Jessica Smith, Broken Toilet Dear All, While out of the country last year, Jessica Smith subletted, and subsequently trashed my flat (broken toilet, tampons on the porch, dirty underwear in the silverware, etc.) She skipped town in the night, with = bills and rent unpaid, plants dead, and the heat on at 80 degrees in the middle = of a Buffalo winter. If anyone has her contact information, it would be greatly appreciated. Sorry to cloud the list with my own dirty laundry, but this was not merely = a violation of personal trust, but a violation of the communal trust we = share on and off this list, together. Cheers, Kyle ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 01:57:14 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: one and one and one MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed one and one and one an entirely new principle for choreography and dance dancer as _counterpoise_ ground system conductivity dependent upon proximity plus vegetation moisture content sound combination of: a background industrial noise b spherics and other vlf entities c counterpoise interference thoughtless the words that are spoken here. we were with electric-antenna-azure / the landscape 'was electric' and she flew (moved/clogged/danced) among the particles almost always inaudible swirling around the world in our direction http://www.asondheim.org/elektra.mpg nothing may be made of all of this, nothing, however there are others in the world which is unseen and unknown, nevertheless grips us against all will grounded body interference and part of planetary worlding here one inhabits the cosmos we are just beginning sound exploration and dream-time rendering of atmospheric layerings no microphone was used, vlf radio fed directly into mic input of video camera, heavy grounding through metal-pipe table, vertical antenna one and one and one "the machine wrote, 'thoughtless the thoughtless words the that words are that spoken are here. spoken we were we with were electric-antenna-azure with / electric-antenna-azure landscape the 'was electric' electric' and and she she flew flew (moved/clogged/danced) (moved/clogged/danced) among among the particles 'was almost inaudible always swirling inaudible around swirling the around world world our in direction our almost direction always nothing all may of be this, made nothing, of however all there this, others nothing, nothing however may there be others of which and is unknown, unseen nevertheless unknown, us nevertheless in grips the us world against will '" thank you, thank you ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:26:11 +0200 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Ben Yehuda St...Surf Center... Tel Aviv... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dropped L off at the new air-port....Hi-Tech Mid-Air anywhere....Took the train into T.a.V...walked thru the outskirts of junk stores..cheap furniture..street beggars.....bad falafel joints...for a mile to Allenby... Stopped at Halper's Books...89? Allenby...small glass case out front...down an alley to some cheap outisde stuffe..into cramped as usual quarters...half-english..half-hebrew...10 per cent other...p.b. reading copies..a few better things..but mostly given the climate and history...90 per cent dumpster dross in NY...but i had managed to eke out a few purchases days before..a copy of JugStone Pottery N.C...a 12mo Marcel Janco book...and Golden Goose No. 4...the Norman Mclean Number...all added up to about 55 shekels...about 11-12 dollars American..i left an inscribed copy of Dennis Silk's scarce 1st book....because i've been staring at an uninscribed copy for anon more than a decade...& i figured somebody else should find this not so wonderful conditioned copy... The owner told me if i came back i could see the 'better stuffe'...outside...up the stairs...long stairs up into the third world..broken down offices...unswept floors...junkie bait..a half a block off the main drag...the stuffe was 'better'... some of it on the internet..(he had sold a book on Danish Royalty to Buckingham Palace last week...and just got an order for a signed Saul Bellow) & some not on the internet and not marked...i kinda half-looked..half kibbituzed...half sighed and didn't buy anything.. But my 10 dollar purchase of days before..and the owner drew me a map of the land..down the block opposite him in a half-enclosed arcade lay piles upon piles outside of nothing in particular...they seem to have been in biz for more than 60 yrs...but all guesses...since it seems to be a regular police stop...is that they sell something more profitable than books..i eyed the hebrew pulp porn mags...but it's a long way to SOHO.. Then a few block down past the outdoor veggie market...BiBliophile...this time the piles reached to the ceiling..some on shelfs...some not... french hebrew english spanish..mostly paper..most of the better stuffe with scotch taped spines...but i kinda of almost glanced at the Best of David Hamilton..stiff wrappers..and the smaller Wingate/Fellini...which was an OK copy.. A block down and a across the street..and a walk of 4 blocks on King George St..was Moise Pollack...who i saw gating his store...mid-european hours...Sun to Thur..9 to 1:30....in the front window was some Arberry Sufi stuffe...and a number of books on the Middle-East..a nice H.C. 1st of Antonius ARAB WAKENING...this is A.B.A...&&&& With nothing better to do..I return to the Little Prince Bookshop...which i had casually perused ten minutes before..and this time found among the photography Ralph Gibson's DEJA VU...35 shekels minus 20 per cent discount..plus one shekel..since they didn't have the right change...Ralph has promised me each of the last three yrs that he was going to sell his photo book collection...and maybe this is the sign.. Anyhows...now the Surf Center...15 shekels per hr...one of the few things much cheaper than N.Y...on to the next bookstore down the next block...to the next jerusalem.. In the market buy orange cap....i wear it everywhere...orange being the color of the zealots who refuse to evacuate Gaza...color me ORANGE...victory insures peace...not the other way round...drn.. __________________________________________________________________________ BookFinder Insider -- http://lists.bookfinder.com/mailman/listinfo/insider ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:10:22 +0000 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Raymond Bianchi Subject: Re: one and one and one MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Alan Can you backchannel me at saudade@comcast.net rgds Ray -------------- Original message -------------- > one and one and one > > > an entirely new principle for choreography and dance > dancer as _counterpoise_ ground system > conductivity dependent upon proximity plus vegetation moisture content > sound combination of: > a background industrial noise > b spherics and other vlf entities > c counterpoise interference > > thoughtless the words that are spoken here. > we were with electric-antenna-azure / the landscape > 'was electric' and she flew (moved/clogged/danced) among the particles > almost always inaudible swirling around the world in our direction > http://www.asondheim.org/elektra.mpg > nothing may be made of all of this, nothing, however there are others > in the world which is unseen and unknown, nevertheless grips us > against all will > > grounded body interference and part of planetary worlding > here one inhabits the cosmos > we are just beginning sound exploration and dream-time rendering > of atmospheric layerings > > no microphone was used, vlf radio fed directly into mic input of video > camera, heavy grounding through metal-pipe table, vertical antenna > > one and one and one > > > "the machine wrote, > > 'thoughtless > the thoughtless > words the > that words > are that > spoken are > here. > spoken > we > were we > with were > electric-antenna-azure with > / electric-antenna-azure > landscape > the > 'was electric' > electric' and > and she > she flew > flew (moved/clogged/danced) > (moved/clogged/danced) among > among the > particles > 'was > almost inaudible > always swirling > inaudible around > swirling the > around world > world our > in direction > our almost > direction > always > nothing all > may of > be this, > made nothing, > of however > all there > this, others > nothing, nothing > however may > there be > others > of > which and > is unknown, > unseen nevertheless > unknown, us > nevertheless in > grips the > us > world > against > will > '" > > > thank you, thank you ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:23:58 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinksy Subject: reading/projection MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HOOKER 99 w/ special guest poet steve dalachinsky reading w/ multimedia projections - musicalogical mixes & other wild & crazy techno-stuff @ BOWERY POETRY CLUB (between Houston & Bleecker) June 21,2005 @ 8 P.M. admission - $6 (real dollars) for info go to bowery website or call club or 1212-925-5256 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:44:52 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: Nine Eleven and a Threat to One's Person, Just Months After Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 On December 29th 2001 I was joined by my friend and cousin by marriage John= Gioia to a bar (it shall remain nameless) in Queens in order to visit with= a friend, Jillian Johnson, who was tending bar that evening. She closed at= 4 and we stayed after to chat, then John left (his wife Jackie was pregnan= t at the time) but I stayed and went back to her apartment since she was ha= ving a few people over to close the night/morning out with. These people we= re one NYC firefighter and one NYC police officer (names unremembered, face= s too, even under the auspices of what is about to happen). I was drinking = heavily that night, I believe these guys were too, and Jillian had only a f= ew beers. The conversation had turned to Afghanistan and bin Laden and because I am p= rofoundly anti-Bush and anti-(anything)American (besides the people and the= hopes of the activists) I opened my mouth a little too wide that evening. = To sum up, I had pinned blame on the Bush Administration and that invading = Afghanistan (even though it was a premature thought, but one I still believ= e in today) and putting blame on others that were not apprently certain, wa= s, truly, unpatriotic and umAmerican (now I believe it is totally American)= . What persisted after the fact were threats: the NYC police officer threat= ed to shoot me with his "issued" gun, off duty or not, and the fire fighter= grew to enormous proportions and threated to beat the living shit out of m= e.=20 Agreeably, it was a strange time, a difficult time, but I wasn't backing do= wn because it was the will of the many (who were, obviously, misinformed an= d volatile because they had no idea what was the reality). I did have a bre= akdown that night, Jillian helped me through it, and I felt guilty about le= aving NYC the year before to move to Baltimore. And she kept telling me to = just go along with what they say, because they were her friends and she fel= t it too. I was sad but it could have been selfish to think that I left NYC= and was no longer a part of the impact of these events. I was no longer a = New Yorker after these events. And when I go home I no longer feel like a N= ew Yorker, even though I spent my whole life their, grew up there, made a c= hoice to stay alive there. What are these feelings now that well up in me, where I feel I no longer ha= ve a choice about my relationship with NY? Am I no longer a New Yorker? Do = I no longer have a home? Chris --=20 _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for just= US$9.95 per year! Powered by Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:19:02 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Wanda Phipps Subject: Oops I forgot the date! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just realized I forgot the date on the announcement I sent out earlier this week, please forgive me: On Saturday, June 18th-- come check out my performance (poetry and music) with guitarist Stephen B. Antonakos, 8-9 pm at Pillow Cafe-Lounge, 372 Myrtle Avenue (between Adelphi & Clermont) (718) 246-2711 6-7: Sapphire 7-8: Daniela Gioseffi 9-11: singer/songwriter Lisa Roma (take G train to Clinton/Washington or Q/R train to Dekalb or B-38 Bus to Clermont & Lafayette or B-54 Bus to Adelphi and Myrtle) it's all part of Leaves of Grass: Brooklyn Celebrates the 150th Anniversary of Walt Whitman's masterpiece--A Celebration of Poets and Poetry in Fort Greene Park and along Myrtle Avenue see the website for details of the whole event which goes from 11am-11pm--ALL FREE http://www.fortgreenepark.org -- Wanda Phipps Wake-Up Calls: 66 Morning Poems my first full-length book of poetry has just been released by Soft Skull Press available at the Soft Skull site: http://www.softskull.com/detailedbook.php?isbn=1-932360-31-X and on Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/193236031X/ref=rm_item and don't forget to check out my website MIND HONEY http://www.mindhoney.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:37:15 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Gwyn McVay Subject: Re: Nine Eleven and a Threat to One's Person, Just Months After In-Reply-To: <20050616164453.273A213EDF@ws5-9.us4.outblaze.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit furniture_ press wrote: >These people were one NYC firefighter and one NYC police officer (names unremembered, faces too, even under the auspices of what is about to happen). > You mean members of emergency services who lost a lot of their own on 9/11? I'm not saying that fact makes their conduct right in any way, but it is salient. >I was drinking heavily that night, I believe these guys were too, and Jillian had only a few beers. > > This just might have been a problem also. Now you have members of emergency services, who feel personally aggrieved AND are drunk. >The conversation had turned to Afghanistan and bin Laden and because I am profoundly anti-Bush and anti-(anything)American (besides the people and the hopes of the activists) I opened my mouth a little too wide that evening. > And drunk. Don't forget drunk. >To sum up, I had pinned blame on the Bush Administration and that invading Afghanistan (even though it was a premature thought, but one I still believe in today) and putting blame on others that were not apprently certain, was, truly, unpatriotic and umAmerican (now I believe it is totally American). What persisted after the fact were threats: the NYC police officer threated to shoot me with his "issued" gun, off duty or not, and the fire fighter grew to enormous proportions and threated to beat the living shit out of me. > > > This is deplorable. However, I still note that members of the emergency services lost a lot of comrades in the attacks and felt this in a particularly personal way, and everybody was, I hate to sound like a CD with a skip in it, drunk. >And she kept telling me to just go along with what they say, because they were her friends and she felt it too. > There's a word that I find really, really useful for touchy situations with people who might be feeling volatile: "Mmm." It is semantically devoid, and allows you to disagree on the inside while still not saying anything that a drunk, emotional person might perceive as inflammatory. >Am I no longer a New Yorker? > I dunno, how do you drive? >Do I no longer have a home? > > > Chris, you have asked some vexed questions in a tone that seems to invite unconditional sympathy and/or a rush of New Yorkers embracing you and saying, "Of course you're still one of us, pal." I do sympathize, but it's not unconditional. How did you ever grow up to whatever age you were in 2001 while still thinking it was a really great idea to try to have a reasoned political debate with drunk, angry, and, in one case, armed people? Gwyn ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:38:14 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Lewis LaCook Subject: New Work: Black Holes--A Networked Generative Literary Object MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I like to look at other people's snapshots, don't you? The voyeur in me is titilated by imagining the skeins of love and betrayal between distant people in indifferent photographs. Why are those two, husband and wife according to the caption, sitting so far apart? Why is he looking away? What does that haunted look on the face of the son mean? http://lewislacook.corporatepa.com/BlackHoles/ FlashMX, PHP Sound hosted by Corporate Performance Artists *************************************************************************** No More Movements... Lewis LaCook -->Poet-Programmer|||http://lewislacook.corporatepa.com/||| __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:07:38 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: amy king Subject: Are you or someone you know afflicted with mannequinism? In-Reply-To: <3116ac0e5cf54e304bfc9c3341ce69ac@fulbrightweb.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I came across this website today: http://www.fightmannequinism.org which reminded me of this poem by Bob Hicok in the latest Octopus: REPARATIONS A group of people look into the well. I lean over too, we stare at each other upside down. There's a man mannequin in the water. One of the people says we should rescue him with a spear gun and rope, another that we should ask a woman mannequin to make the first feel lonely and capable of flight. But what if he's gay, someone asks. I remind them of the oppressive condition in which our hero lives, being, not even wood, but a plastic designed to keep clothes from snagging. As is often the case, we soon resent his misery, lean back in the short grass and talk of angora sweaters we've loved, of the expression mannequins perfect, the one that says, my smile, I owe my smile to this shade of burgundy. When I wake, the man mannequin stands above me, dripping, his smooth crotch shining in moonlight. It occurs to me we may have ruined his privacy, and I want to sing him a song that says how sorry I am, but the only sounds that come to mind are of two cars smashing on the highway, and I wake the man beside me, and we run head first at each other to sing this song. This re-visitation compelled me to search for a man mannequin, which can be purchased (at least a variation of) at Target: http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/601-6285412-7019353?asin=B0002OI344&LID=p5443963&AFID=Google&LNM=mannequin%20man&ref=tgt_adv_XSGB1343 But I couldn't find a wire woman, and thus, got distracted by the world's overstock of blow-up versions, until I hit on a theory of the doll: http://www.lib.latrobe.edu.au/AHR/archive/Issue-Sept-1996/stratton.html Although, the acres of grass I haven't seen for months are about to get wet, so I'm abandoning this line of thinking for now. Be well~ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:20:25 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: maxpaul@SFSU.EDU Subject: An omission from NAW Canadian List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Very sorry to have omitted Sina Queryas when I sent the List of Canadian writers. MC ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:19:21 +0100 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: LADKIN Subject: Cambridge Poetry Summit 2005 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed CAMBRIDGE POETRY SUMMIT will take place on Friday 24th to Sunday 26th June, 2005 AT THE QUEEN'S THEATRE, EMMANUEL COLLEGE, CAMBRIDGE, UK St Andrew's Street, Cambridge, CB2 3AP for details see www.cambridgepoetry.org ALL ARE WELCOME We would be delighted if you would spread news of this event to=20 interested people. Friday 24th June 19.30-22.00 TONY LOPEZ / KELVIN CORCORAN / ADRIAN CLARKE Saturday 25th June 11.30-13.10 PETER LARKIN / MAURICE SCULLY / MICHAEL KINDELLAN / NEIL PATTISON 14.30-16.10 MEG FOULKES / JEROME GAME AND NEBAHAT AVCIOGLU / ANDRZEJ SOSNOWSKI /=20 TADEUSZ PIORO 17.00-18.40 HARRY GILONIS / NICK POTAMITIS / NATHALIE QUINTANE / ERIC GIRAUD 20.00-21.40 PETER MANSON / TOM LEONARD Sunday 26th June 11.30-12.40 Films by COLIN STILL on ROBERT CREELEY 14.00-15.40 KAIA SAND / JULES BOYKOFF / KARLIEN VAN DEN BEUKEL / VAHNI CAPILDEO 16.30-17.50 JOHN WELCH / JOW LINDSAY / JEREMY HARDINGHAM 19.30-21.30 MICHAEL HASLAM / BRIAN CATLING / ALAN HALSEY This programme may be subject to change. Tickets cost =A33 per session, =A312 per day or =A320 for the weekend.=20= Tickets will be available on the door. A catalogue of the event will be=20= on sale. A book stall will be running selling works by the authors and=20= publications from Barque, Equipage, Arehouse, Salt, Landfill and many=20 more... Wine will be available. As will music. Readings will be arranged so that the audience can make the last train=20= back to London, should they wish to do so. We hope the atmosphere will=20= be generous and would be delighted if people can stay over the weekend.=20= For more information please visit the website www.cambridgepoetry.org=20 or contact Sam Ladkin at ladkin@gmail.com. For more accommodation=20 information please visit=20 http://www.visitcambridge.org/visitors/wheretostay.php The Summit is largely organised by Sara Crangle and Sam Ladkin, with=20 many thanks due elsewhere. The website www.cambridgepoetry.org also has sites for Equipage,=20 Arehouse, the University of Romsey Town and links to relevant sites. If anyone is receiving this information and can't imagine why please=20 let me know and I wont bother you again. Alternatively, if there is=20 someone you think should know about this event and poetry in and around=20= Cambridge who hasn't received this information then please tell them to=20= get in touch to ladkin@gmail.com. That''s also the email to let me know=20= what you think or ask questions. Alternatively, if there is anyone you=20= do not like and would like them to be sent notices about poetry events=20= in Cambridge for seemingly no reason then please pass their details to=20= me. Many thanks for reading this far [and as gratitude apologies to=20 those who receive this message several times from several sources]. The website was designed by Colin Verot. Please visit www.verot.net ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:23:57 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harriet Zinnes Subject: (no subject) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please note that my new email is: HZinnes@RCN.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:19:22 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maria Damon Subject: Re: Cambridge Poetry Summit 2005 In-Reply-To: <1b565cae2dd52ae24e3713106cd26480@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just been given and enjoying alan halsey's Marginalien. what a tripper-trea= t. At 9:19 PM +0100 6/16/05, LADKIN wrote: >CAMBRIDGE POETRY SUMMIT > >will take place on > >Friday 24th to Sunday 26th June, 2005 > >AT >THE QUEEN'S THEATRE, EMMANUEL COLLEGE, CAMBRIDGE, UK >St Andrew's Street, Cambridge, CB2 3AP > >for details see >www.cambridgepoetry.org > >ALL ARE WELCOME > >We would be delighted if you would spread news of this event to >interested people. > > >Friday 24th June >19.30-22.00 >TONY LOPEZ / KELVIN CORCORAN / ADRIAN CLARKE > > >Saturday 25th June >11.30-13.10 >PETER LARKIN / MAURICE SCULLY / MICHAEL KINDELLAN / NEIL PATTISON > >14.30-16.10 >MEG FOULKES / JEROME GAME AND NEBAHAT AVCIOGLU / ANDRZEJ SOSNOWSKI / >TADEUSZ PIORO > >17.00-18.40 >HARRY GILONIS / NICK POTAMITIS / NATHALIE QUINTANE / ERIC GIRAUD > >20.00-21.40 >PETER MANSON / TOM LEONARD > > >Sunday 26th June >11.30-12.40 >Films by COLIN STILL on ROBERT CREELEY > >14.00-15.40 >KAIA SAND / JULES BOYKOFF / KARLIEN VAN DEN BEUKEL / VAHNI CAPILDEO > >16.30-17.50 >JOHN WELCH / JOW LINDSAY / JEREMY HARDINGHAM > >19.30-21.30 >MICHAEL HASLAM / BRIAN CATLING / ALAN HALSEY > >This programme may be subject to change. > >Tickets cost =A33 per session, =A312 per day or =A320 for the weekend. >Tickets will be available on the door. A catalogue of the event will >be on sale. A book stall will be running selling works by the >authors and publications from Barque, Equipage, Arehouse, Salt, >Landfill and many more... Wine will be available. As will music. > >Readings will be arranged so that the audience can make the last >train back to London, should they wish to do so. We hope the >atmosphere will be generous and would be delighted if people can >stay over the weekend. For more information please visit the website >www.cambridgepoetry.org or contact Sam Ladkin at ladkin@gmail.com. >For more accommodation information please visit >http://www.visitcambridge.org/visitors/wheretostay.php > >The Summit is largely organised by Sara Crangle and Sam Ladkin, with >many thanks due elsewhere. > >The website www.cambridgepoetry.org also has sites for Equipage, >Arehouse, the University of Romsey Town and links to relevant sites. > >If anyone is receiving this information and can't imagine why please >let me know and I wont bother you again. Alternatively, if there is >someone you think should know about this event and poetry in and >around Cambridge who hasn't received this information then please >tell them to get in touch to ladkin@gmail.com. That''s also the >email to let me know what you think or ask questions. Alternatively, >if there is anyone you do not like and would like them to be sent >notices about poetry events in Cambridge for seemingly no reason >then please pass their details to me. Many thanks for reading this >far [and as gratitude apologies to those who receive this message >several times from several sources]. > >The website was designed by Colin Verot. Please visit www.verot.net -- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:49:21 -0700 Reply-To: ishaq1823@telus.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: Ian Fraser animal control violence and targeting -- your assistence Comments: cc: MIKECHEROKEE@aol.com, Copwatch@lists.resist.ca, CTV News , editor@sfbayview.com, editorial@mondaymag.com, Station Manager - CFUV , ebony@sfbayview.com, editor@indiancountry.com, jeremy@democracynow.org, news@ckut.ca, newswire@freakradio.org, Paula Simon , profgriff@rapstation.com, RedCalacArts@cox.net, "redeye@coopradio.org" , uprising@kpfk.org, vocalizedink@yahoo.com, visiontv@visiontv.ca, NBP12 , info@amnesty.ca, toronto@amnesty.ca, atc@prisonradio.org, prison_radio@topica.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit realizing that people are troubled by more pressing issues i do ask for you ear in this matter of my life and my dog's life. my doctor recently wrote a letter concerning the importance of the dog to me in my life and for my health so to me, at least and it seems to others this issue is of importance i do feel that, with the encrease violence and targetting of myself and my dog by ian fraser of the "victoria animal control services" i am in danger of being injured, imprsioned or killed. i hope that you can excuse the interuption with this note on the recent incident i don't know what to do i was assaulted by a "victoria animal control services" officer ian fraser who has a history of violence, targetting, stalking and harassment of me and my dog. i normally have my dog on a lead and harness. it is that the targetting is so intense that one slip renders me indanger of violence, impoundment of my dog or death for both of us. life is once again becoming unliveable for me and buddy. when ian fraser was employed with the crd his officers had admitted to harassing me by telling a buisness owner of the wild fire bakery that he had a list of all the places me and my dog went throughout the day. there were at the time two animal controls protrolling for the city. so they had targetted me and disrupted businesses inorder to do it. the businesses and nieghbours came out in defense of me a few years ago and ian fraser of then the crd and now of the "victoria animal control services" laid off -- until now. today at 430 i was walking my dog from the corner store and he went to play with a dog who was runnin with his owner on his bike. ian frase of the animal control services having stopped me early this week when i was turning the corner of my street to go to work with my dog, i had apologized adn place him on his lead but ian fraser was very agressive but the secen had a=occured at that time on a busy city street of hillside. with in a few days ian fraser of "victoria animal control services" was waiting on the corner of the street few yards from my home in an unmarked van and came rushing out and told me to give him my dog and that he was impounding it for being off leash. i said he should write a ticket not inpoound the dog. he said he didn't have to since her warned me before. he was very aggressive and so i went to call the police he grabbed me by my shirt and became physically aggressive. realizing that i was alone on a corner and before my dog was provoked to defend me i shouted for help. the neighbours came out and he released me. he then called the police and said i was resisting arrest and that my dog had attacked the other dog and had attacked dogs before. my neighbours testified as to the gentleness of my dog and queried him on his aggressive behaviour. this is when he said that all i had to do was place the dog in the van and pay a fine and then i would have my dog back immediately. we asked him why he didn't say this before. my neighbour offered to pay the fine and eventually was allowed to do so. the police were concerned as to why he had manhandled me. but he informed them that he could as a "peace officer". the police thanked me for being "the bigger man" in the incident. This is when the man on the bike who had the dog came back to the scene and told the place that my dog had not attacked his dog and the he was concerned as to the aggressive behaviour of the crd officer ian fraser. i was issued two tickets -- "hinder/delay/obstruct poundkeeper" and $150.00 and $35.00 for the release of my dog. the police told me the that there are appeals. they also took note on how well behaved my dog was. ian fraser has a history of aggressive behavior and harassement of myself and my dog. he has become increasingly more agressive and his credibilty has been compromised. in the past the situation caused buisness men, womend and nieghbours to write letters to the city in defense of me and condemning ian fraser's behavior. personally i feel very much in danger of ian fraser. he has demonstrated violent tendcnaies and is obsessed with me and my dog to the point inwhich i do not know what length he will go to. he waits around my home, he has been known to follow my movements. he is violent and agressive and prone telling untruths and exagerations. i feel if something is not done that i and my dog may end up injured or killed. i would like to thank my community of new palestine/fernwood/the hood for coming to my assistance in this matter. i also hope that something caan be done\ concerning ian fraser of "victoria animal control services" and his violence and targettig of individuals before someone is injured or killed for i do not feel and he should be in the postion of "victoria animal control services". his removal would be of great benifit to the safety and lives of victorians and their animal companions. he is going to hurt someone very seriously one day unless something is done soon. i fear that that the lives indanger are myself and my buddy, as well. you assistance would be much appreciated victoria animal control services ltd 564 david st victoria bc v8t 2c8 250 414 0233 ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Be a friend to the oppressed and an enemy to the oppressor" --Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib (as)\ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html \ http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_comments/766_0_15_0_C/ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:36:24 -0700 Reply-To: ishaq1823@telus.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: update with const names and file numbers-- Ian Fraser animal control violence and targeting -- your assistence Comments: cc: MIKECHEROKEE@aol.com, Copwatch@lists.resist.ca, CTV News , editor@sfbayview.com, editorial@mondaymag.com, Station Manager - CFUV , ebony@sfbayview.com, editor@indiancountry.com, jeremy@democracynow.org, news@ckut.ca, newswire@freakradio.org, Paula Simon , profgriff@rapstation.com, RedCalacArts@cox.net, "redeye@coopradio.org" , uprising@kpfk.org, vocalizedink@yahoo.com, visiontv@visiontv.ca, NBP12 , info@amnesty.ca, toronto@amnesty.ca, atc@prisonradio.org, prison_radio@topica.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit realizing that people are troubled by more pressing issues i do ask for you ear in this matter of my life and my dog's life. my doctor recently wrote a letter concerning the importance of the dog to me in my life and for my health so to me, at least and it seems to others this issue is of importance i do feel that, with the encrease violence and targetting of myself and my dog by ian fraser of the "victoria animal control services" i am in danger of being injured, imprsioned or killed. i hope that you can excuse the interuption with this note on the recent incident i don't know what to do i was assaulted by a "victoria animal control services" officer ian fraser who has a history of violence, targetting, stalking and harassment of me and my dog. i normally have my dog on a lead and harness. it is that the targetting is so intense that one slip renders me indanger of violence, impoundment of my dog or death for both of us. life is once again becoming unliveable for me and buddy. when ian fraser was employed with the crd his officers had admitted to harassing me by telling a buisness owner of the wild fire bakery that he had a list of all the places me and my dog went throughout the day. there were at the time two animal controls protrolling for the city. so they had targetted me and disrupted businesses inorder to do it. the businesses and nieghbours came out in defense of me a few years ago and ian fraser of then the crd and now of the "victoria animal control services" laid off -- until now. today at 430 i was walking my dog from the corner store and he went to play with a dog who was runnin with his owner on his bike. ian frase of the animal control services having stopped me early this week when i was turning the corner of my street to go to work with my dog, i had apologized adn place him on his lead but ian fraser was very agressive but the secen had a=occured at that time on a busy city street of hillside. with in a few days ian fraser of "victoria animal control services" was waiting on the corner of the street few yards from my home in an unmarked van and came rushing out and told me to give him my dog and that he was impounding it for being off leash. i said he should write a ticket not inpoound the dog. he said he didn't have to since her warned me before. he was very aggressive and so i went to call the police he grabbed me by my shirt and became physically aggressive. realizing that i was alone on a corner and before my dog was provoked to defend me i shouted for help. the neighbours came out and he released me. he then called the police and said i was resisting arrest and that my dog had attacked the other dog and had attacked dogs before. my neighbours testified as to the gentleness of my dog and queried him on his aggressive behaviour. this is when he said that all i had to do was place the dog in the van and pay a fine and then i would have my dog back immediately. we asked him why he didn't say this before. my neighbour offered to pay the fine and eventually was allowed to do so. the police were concerned as to why he had manhandled me. but he informed them that he could as a "peace officer". the police thanked me for being "the bigger man" in the incident. This is when the man on the bike who had the dog came back to the scene and told the place that my dog had not attacked his dog and the he was concerned as to the aggressive behaviour of the crd officer ian fraser. i was issued two tickets -- "hinder/delay/obstruct poundkeeper" and $150.00 and $35.00 for the release of my dog. the police told me the that there are appeals. they also took note on how well behaved my dog was. ian fraser has a history of aggressive behavior and harassement of myself and my dog. he has become increasingly more agressive and his credibilty has been compromised. in the past the situation caused buisness men, womend and nieghbours to write letters to the city in defense of me and condemning ian fraser's behavior. personally i feel very much in danger of ian fraser. he has demonstrated violent tendcnaies and is obsessed with me and my dog to the point inwhich i do not know what length he will go to. he waits around my home, he has been known to follow my movements. he is violent and agressive and prone telling untruths and exagerations. i feel if something is not done that i and my dog may end up injured or killed. i would like to thank my community of new palestine/fernwood/the hood for coming to my assistance in this matter. i also hope that something caan be done\ concerning ian fraser of "victoria animal control services" and his violence and targettig of individuals before someone is injured or killed for i do not feel and he should be in the postion of "victoria animal control services". his removal would be of great benifit to the safety and lives of victorians and their animal companions. he is going to hurt someone very seriously one day unless something is done soon. i fear that that the lives indanger are myself and my buddy, as well. you assistance would be much appreciated victoria animal control services ltd 564 david st victoria bc v8t 2c8 250 414 0233 constable szucs and constable shannon perkins file 05-27956 ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Be a friend to the oppressed and an enemy to the oppressor" --Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib (as)\ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html \ http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_comments/766_0_15_0_C/ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 00:48:51 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Cross Subject: Renee Gladman's email? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Back-channel if you've got it! Thanks, Michael ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:55:47 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Aaron McCollough Subject: New Issue of GutCult up -- Summer 2005 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear Kind Hearted Readers of GutCult: I’m pleased to announce the release of the Summer 2005 issue of GutCult (www.gutcult.com). I hope you will come by and spend some of your psychic capital on getting to know the poems and poets that make up this new edition. Also, please distribute this message wherever you think it might find sympathetic readers Poets featured in this issue are: Anne Gorrick Devin Johnston Donna Stonecipher K. Silem Mohammad Chris Vitiello Timothy David Orme Sawanko Nakayasu Peter Jay Shippy Lauren Haldeman Ken Rumble Jon Thompson Catherine Cafferty Bruce Covey Dustin Hellberg Simon DeDeo Mark Lamoureux Anthony Hawley Gareth Lee Jennifer Tynes Marc Rahe Nick Twemlow Brian Lucas Antonio Facchino A Review of David Meiklejohn’s Plots by Brian Howe A Review of Three Chapbooks from Ugly Duckling Presse by Chris Vitiello Keep an eye on GutCult in the coming year, as a new look is planned for Winter 2006. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:09:23 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: my _cosmic _music of the spheres__ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed my _cosmic _music of the spheres__ 3 vlf compositions irvine regional park, california http://www.asondheim.org/ellektra.mp4 http://www.asondheim.org/elk.mp3 http://www.asondheim.org/elek.mp3 modification with notch filters and chorus in cooledit 1930 regal mandolin with four low-tuned bazouki strings sony minidisk and sony minidv video recorders light drizzle and clouded over, cool input directly from the vlf receiver loosely coupled antenna in dried creekbed visible at http://www.asondheim.org/vlfirvine jpegs comments although this was a fairly isolated area, the hum was enormous there were powerlines everywhere these are inescapable in southern california in relation to analog / digital the sounds are combinations of filters/effects/solarparticles/'music' the electrospherical local membrane is altered by metal strings these interact with the antenna field coupling and uncoupling as performer/technician, i was not grounded, due to the rocky creekbed there were ravens in the area the usual spherics/spikes are audible in a number of instances i think of this as my _cosmic swirl_ we interact everyday with electromagnetic fields of varying strength we are penetrated by these fields this is my _cosmic ode_ to the wondrous fields around us this is truly my _cosmic _music of the spheres__ + ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 06:56:49 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Derek White Subject: Re: POETICS Digest - 15 Jun 2005 to 16 Jun 2005 (#2005-166) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Come on, Chris. Having lived in nyc since before 9/11 I can't imagine living anywhere else, and feel more hostility and alienation outside of nyc. Then again, I usually don't hang out in Queens. This has to do with knowing when to keep your mouth shut and what bars to hang out in. It is your own guilty conscience keeping you away, and you are the threat to yourself--don't blame ny, and don't blame firefighters or police. Derek White ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:44:52 -0500 From: furniture_ press Subject: Nine Eleven and a Threat to One's Person, Just Months After On December 29th 2001 I was joined by my friend and cousin by marriage John= Gioia to a bar (it shall remain nameless) in Queens in order to visit with= a friend, Jillian Johnson, who was tending bar that evening. She closed at= 4 and we stayed after to chat, then John left (his wife Jackie was pregnan= t at the time) but I stayed and went back to her apartment since she was ha= ving a few people over to close the night/morning out with. These people we= re one NYC firefighter and one NYC police officer (names unremembered, face= s too, even under the auspices of what is about to happen). I was drinking = heavily that night, I believe these guys were too, and Jillian had only a f= ew beers. The conversation had turned to Afghanistan and bin Laden and because I am p= rofoundly anti-Bush and anti-(anything)American (besides the people and the= hopes of the activists) I opened my mouth a little too wide that evening. = To sum up, I had pinned blame on the Bush Administration and that invading = Afghanistan (even though it was a premature thought, but one I still believ= e in today) and putting blame on others that were not apprently certain, wa= s, truly, unpatriotic and umAmerican (now I believe it is totally American)= . What persisted after the fact were threats: the NYC police officer threat= ed to shoot me with his "issued" gun, off duty or not, and the fire fighter= grew to enormous proportions and threated to beat the living shit out of m= e.=20 Agreeably, it was a strange time, a difficult time, but I wasn't backing do= wn because it was the will of the many (who were, obviously, misinformed an= d volatile because they had no idea what was the reality). I did have a bre= akdown that night, Jillian helped me through it, and I felt guilty about le= aving NYC the year before to move to Baltimore. And she kept telling me to = just go along with what they say, because they were her friends and she fel= t it too. I was sad but it could have been selfish to think that I left NYC= and was no longer a part of the impact of these events. I was no longer a = New Yorker after these events. And when I go home I no longer feel like a N= ew Yorker, even though I spent my whole life their, grew up there, made a c= hoice to stay alive there. What are these feelings now that well up in me, where I feel I no longer ha= ve a choice about my relationship with NY? Am I no longer a New Yorker? Do = I no longer have a home? Chris --=20 _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for just= US$9.95 per year! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 09:26:56 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "E. Tracy Grinnell" Subject: Stacy Szymaszek's EMPTIED OF ALL SHIPS & Release Reading this Sunday 6/19 Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit NOW AVAILABLE from Litmus Press: Emptied of All Ships, by Stacy Szymaszek ISBN: 0-9723331-6-9 "Stacy Szymaszek places her readers in a border situation. Here is a poetics of extreme condensation. 'ink a hinge here/ 'n here/ 'n mother/ make me limber." Where traces are, lines remain. Magic is implicated in every shot and countershot. This is idiosyncratic and stunning work." --Susan Howe Order online through Small Press Distribution: www.spdbooks.org ALSO: A release reading and reception for EMPTIED OF ALL SHIPS will take place THIS SUNDAY, June 19th at Myopic Bookstore in Chicago, IL (www.myopicbookstore.com) with readings by Stacy Szymaszek, Dana Ward and E. Tracy Grinnell. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:39:29 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: Re: POETICS Digest - 15 Jun 2005 to 16 Jun 2005 (#2005-166) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 All - I'm not blaming ALL police and ALL firemen, just these two guys who t= hreatened my life! It's not these guys that have kept me away (I've come ba= ck, damnit, plenty of times, and it's the only place honestly I feel safe! = It's just a question of citizenship, you know, this idea that I wasn't (dir= ectly) part of the trauma, just emotionally, and I didn't go back until Oct= ober. It's just a question of belonging and how folks have changed and how = the city has changed, not the NYPD or NYFD - GOD NO!=20 I regret totally posting these feelings because they were immediate. Disreg= ard. It's too late to disregard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek White" To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Re: POETICS Digest - 15 Jun 2005 to 16 Jun 2005 (#2005-166) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 06:56:49 -0400 >=20 > Come on, Chris. Having lived in nyc since before 9/11 I can't imagine liv= ing > anywhere else, and feel more hostility and alienation outside of nyc. Then > again, I usually don't hang out in Queens. This has to do with knowing wh= en > to keep your mouth shut and what bars to hang out in. It is your own guil= ty > conscience keeping you away, and you are the threat to yourself--don't bl= ame > ny, and don't blame firefighters or police. >=20 > Derek White > > > >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:44:52 -0500 > From: furniture_ press > Subject: Nine Eleven and a Threat to One's Person, Just Months After >=20 > On December 29th 2001 I was joined by my friend and cousin by marriage Jo= hn=3D > Gioia to a bar (it shall remain nameless) in Queens in order to visit w= ith=3D > a friend, Jillian Johnson, who was tending bar that evening. She closed= at=3D > 4 and we stayed after to chat, then John left (his wife Jackie was preg= nan=3D > t at the time) but I stayed and went back to her apartment since she was = ha=3D > ving a few people over to close the night/morning out with. These people = we=3D > re one NYC firefighter and one NYC police officer (names unremembered, fa= ce=3D > s too, even under the auspices of what is about to happen). I was drinkin= g =3D > heavily that night, I believe these guys were too, and Jillian had only a= f=3D > ew beers. >=20 > The conversation had turned to Afghanistan and bin Laden and because I am= p=3D > rofoundly anti-Bush and anti-(anything)American (besides the people and t= he=3D > hopes of the activists) I opened my mouth a little too wide that evenin= g. =3D > To sum up, I had pinned blame on the Bush Administration and that invadin= g =3D > Afghanistan (even though it was a premature thought, but one I still beli= ev=3D > e in today) and putting blame on others that were not apprently certain, = wa=3D > s, truly, unpatriotic and umAmerican (now I believe it is totally America= n)=3D > . What persisted after the fact were threats: the NYC police officer thre= at=3D > ed to shoot me with his "issued" gun, off duty or not, and the fire fight= er=3D > grew to enormous proportions and threated to beat the living shit out o= f m=3D > e.=3D20 >=20 > Agreeably, it was a strange time, a difficult time, but I wasn't backing = do=3D > wn because it was the will of the many (who were, obviously, misinformed = an=3D > d volatile because they had no idea what was the reality). I did have a b= re=3D > akdown that night, Jillian helped me through it, and I felt guilty about = le=3D > aving NYC the year before to move to Baltimore. And she kept telling me t= o =3D > just go along with what they say, because they were her friends and she f= el=3D > t it too. I was sad but it could have been selfish to think that I left N= YC=3D > and was no longer a part of the impact of these events. I was no longer= a =3D > New Yorker after these events. And when I go home I no longer feel like a= N=3D > ew Yorker, even though I spent my whole life their, grew up there, made a= c=3D > hoice to stay alive there. >=20 > What are these feelings now that well up in me, where I feel I no longer = ha=3D > ve a choice about my relationship with NY? Am I no longer a New Yorker? D= o =3D > I no longer have a home? >=20 >=20 > Chris >=20 > --=3D20 > _______________________________________________ > Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net > Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for ju= st=3D > US$9.95 per year! www.towson.edu/~cacasama/furniture/poae baltimorereads.blogspot.com zillionpoems.blogspot.com --=20 _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for just= US$9.95 per year! 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Richard Eberhart Set in always between moments and abyss, at the 5 corners of Eastern Standard Time and the clock stopped within, time of muons gluons taking the PATH over the stone in existence-- into everything gone still; beyond this nothing purrs lost --Gerald S. gejs1@rochester.rr.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:00:10 +0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: derekrogerson Organization: derekrogerson.com Subject: [job] Lecturer - Poetry, Lit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan The Department of English Language and Literature at the University of Michigan invites applications for up to 2 one-year lecturer positions for the academic year 2005-2006. The lecturer(s) will teach a combination of the two gateway courses to the major (descriptions below). The appointment is for a one-year term as Lecturer I, beginning September 1, 2005. The budget for this position is available for only the Fall 2005 and Winter 2006 semesters. Terms and conditions of employment for this position are subject to the provisions of a Collective Bargaining Agreement between the University of Michigan and the Lecturers? Employee Organization. Information about the two gateway courses: English 239 - What is Literature? This course, a prerequisite to the major, is intended as an introduction to the major and to the close reading of literature. The two main purposes: 1) to develop critical reading and interpretive skills crucial to the deep appreciation and serious study of narrative literature; and 2) to provide occasions for the exercise of those skills in thinking, talking, and writing about a series of distinguished British and American literary texts of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. The course can be a combination of short stories, novels, film, plays and poetry. Students are asked to write a range of papers, do presentations and take quizzes and exams. English 240 - Introduction to Poetry This course is a prerequisite to the major and is a disciplined introduction to the reading of poetry, British and American. This course introduces a wide range of poetry, from various periods and cultural traditions, to familiarize students with aspects of poetic technique and build interpretive skills. Students learn to discuss and analyze numerous samples of poetry through history and to sharpen reading and listening skills. Assignments include: a range of papers, oral presentations, quizzes and exams. DEPARTMENT QUALIFICATIONS: The candidate must hold a Ph.D in English Language and Literature or a closely related field. The candidate must have demonstrated excellence in college-level teaching of writing and of literature in the United States. Preference will be given to candidates with the ability to teach an introduction to poetry as well as an introduction to literary studies. To apply, send an application letter explaining your qualifications and teaching philosophy, a current CV, evidence of teaching excellence, and two letters of recommendation to: Anne Curzan Director of Undergraduate Studies The Department of English, University of Michigan 3187 Angell Hall Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109-1003 Applications are due by June 24, 2005. Questions about applying for this position: mailto:employment.services@umich.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 01:03:41 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: you're probably tired of these by now MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed you're probably tired of these by now i'm hungry for your (absent) replies it's hard enough to get myself motivated much less you i try to respond to work i like mine is unlikeable though i work hard at it making it pleasing for you http://www.asondheim.org/mapp.mov what it must mean to receive tender commendations while we travel across the united states documenting every stop through worldwind, thank you nasa you can meander the highways and the high lonesome places where vlf signals blew in from the outer reaches and you could follow the world in the world but you're probably tired of these by now these tired landscapes repeating themselves over and over again feeding the hungry is more rewarded than any replies i'll push myself until i die perhaps not soon enough for you yes yes i like no i love your work much better than mine (of work, yours / mine) always speaking is so unpleasant http://www.asondheim.org/mapp.mov the tenderness of all interstates and tiny wayfarer's lanes we are here for you, they signal and nothing utters response universal plasma is never angelic but you have listened to every reply with considerable patience - ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:00:22 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: alexander saliby Subject: Re: you're probably tired of these by now MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alan, I read the first ten pages of "Travels with Charley" and vowed to drink = more and read less, boring book from a great writer, proving for me that = even the supremely talented have bad hair days. =20 Sorry to report this, and you know I love you and you are welcome to my = home so you can hit me on the chin for saying this, but I was tired of = "Travels with Alan" after the second posting. I'd have been a lot = happier had you taken an SSt and flown in the opposite direction.=20 Do this for me: find me the essence of the people in a spot where you = are, and keep yourselves out of the matter. I don't need to see Alan or = "his" in strange places. I need to know that you can and do see, feel, = hear, taste and touch the human element of the locals you encounter. =20 From what I see and feel of your reports, you remain = disassociated...stop that! Get the fuck out there and mingle, make some = painful contacts. =20 And Alan, don't find for me some forlorn or forsaken writer in your = travels, hell creeps like me are all over Poetics. Find for me some = skinny chap who loves his dog more than himself and spends all his = income buying the canine pal only good food, depriving himself of his = daily bread. And help me understand his motivation. Find for me the lady who still wears her wedding gown from the day she = was left standing on the church steps. Let me hear her laughter from = the recognition of her good fortune at having shed herself of the twit.=20 Get your ass off the back end of the camera and sit on the fucking = bench; feed the pigeons and embrace the people who sit beside = you...then, share their experiences with us, if at all possible, share = their joys and their sorrows, if they'll let you in on them. =20 Other wise...hurry the fuck home and end this travel charade.=20 Alex=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alan Sondheim=20 To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU=20 Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 10:03 PM Subject: you're probably tired of these by now you're probably tired of these by now i'm hungry for your (absent) replies it's hard enough to get myself motivated much less you i try to respond to work i like mine is unlikeable though i work hard at it making it pleasing for you http://www.asondheim.org/mapp.mov what it must mean to receive tender commendations while we travel across the united states documenting every stop through worldwind, thank you nasa you can meander the highways and the high lonesome places where vlf signals blew in from the outer reaches and you could follow the world in the world but you're probably tired of these by now these tired landscapes repeating themselves over and over again feeding the hungry is more rewarded than any replies i'll push myself until i die perhaps not soon enough for you yes yes i like no i love your work much better than mine (of work, yours / mine) always speaking is so unpleasant http://www.asondheim.org/mapp.mov the tenderness of all interstates and tiny wayfarer's lanes we are here for you, they signal and nothing utters response universal plasma is never angelic but you have listened to every reply with considerable patience - ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:24:03 +0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Bob Marcacci Subject: Re: you're probably tired of these by now In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit are you a synthesizer or a poet i don't want to know if you write do you sense the world i don't want to know if you make sense out of it i know you are not a child but i want to know if you play not which instrument -- Bob Marcacci Calamity: a more than commonly plain and unmistakable reminder that the affairs of this life are not of our own ordering. Calamities are of two kinds: misfortune to ourselves, and good fortune to others. - Ambrose Bierce > From: alexander saliby > Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:00:22 -0700 > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Re: you're probably tired of these by now > > Alan, > I read the first ten pages of "Travels with Charley" and vowed to drink more > and read less, boring book from a great writer, proving for me that even the > supremely talented have bad hair days. > > Sorry to report this, and you know I love you and you are welcome to my home > so you can hit me on the chin for saying this, but I was tired of "Travels > with Alan" after the second posting. I'd have been a lot happier had you > taken an SSt and flown in the opposite direction. > > Do this for me: find me the essence of the people in a spot where you are, > and keep yourselves out of the matter. I don't need to see Alan or "his" in > strange places. I need to know that you can and do see, feel, hear, taste and > touch the human element of the locals you encounter. > > From what I see and feel of your reports, you remain disassociated...stop > that! Get the fuck out there and mingle, make some painful contacts. > > And Alan, don't find for me some forlorn or forsaken writer in your travels, > hell creeps like me are all over Poetics. Find for me some skinny chap who > loves his dog more than himself and spends all his income buying the canine > pal only good food, depriving himself of his daily bread. And help me > understand his motivation. > > Find for me the lady who still wears her wedding gown from the day she was > left standing on the church steps. Let me hear her laughter from the > recognition of her good fortune at having shed herself of the twit. > > Get your ass off the back end of the camera and sit on the fucking bench; feed > the pigeons and embrace the people who sit beside you...then, share their > experiences with us, if at all possible, share their joys and their sorrows, > if they'll let you in on them. > > Other wise...hurry the fuck home and end this travel charade. > Alex > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alan Sondheim > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 10:03 PM > Subject: you're probably tired of these by now > > > you're probably tired of these by now > i'm hungry for your (absent) replies > it's hard enough to get myself motivated much less you > i try to respond to work i like mine is unlikeable > though i work hard at it making it pleasing for you > http://www.asondheim.org/mapp.mov > what it must mean to receive tender commendations > while we travel across the united states documenting > every stop through worldwind, thank you nasa > you can meander the highways and the high lonesome places > where vlf signals blew in from the outer reaches > and you could follow the world in the world > but you're probably tired of these by now > these tired landscapes repeating themselves over and over again > feeding the hungry is more rewarded than any replies > i'll push myself until i die perhaps not soon enough for you > yes yes i like no i love your work much better than mine > (of work, yours / mine) always speaking is so unpleasant > http://www.asondheim.org/mapp.mov > the tenderness of all interstates and tiny wayfarer's lanes > we are here for you, they signal and nothing utters response > universal plasma is never angelic > but you have listened to every reply with considerable patience > > > > - ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 02:36:42 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Re: you're probably tired of these by now In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed no i don't sense the world and yes i do play currently a regal mandolin as i have said. but then do you sense spherics? i'm certainly not a poet; i find what i find and bring it back/curtail. re the other a.s. i'm not the slightest bit interested in you're telling me i'm 'disassociated.' first, you don't know me, and i probably wouldn't be welcome in fact anywhere in your vicinity. second, you must have a narrow view of association; you've already lectured me earlier on my not take backways (which i've done innumerable times); i'm just not fulfilling your fantasy in this case. i think the images and orderings are in fact interesting in and of themselves; they show the changing topography of the country, not to mention the changing topography of both rest-stops and places that are reasonably remote from powerlines as to create clearspace for vlf signals. and b.m. - 'do i sense the world'? again what sort of question this is. i certainly don't sense it the way you do and i don't see a split between synthesizer or poet that warrants the first question. interesting to me that neither of you, in what i see as an attack since i'm diassociated and don't sense apparently - that neither of you commented at all on the mapping. as far as 'painful contacts' - who the hell are you to know who my contacts are or of what sort? i don't write ad hominem to you - in fact i couldn't care less about your personality or what you experience. you didn't like what i did, period, and turned it into the usual ad hominem. at the moment your contact in fact is the most painful i've had in a long time, particularly in terms of its presumption. generally i don't publish any more to this list, and for obvious reasons. you'd rather attack than in fact dig the mapping - which by the way is a relatively new program (Worldwind 1.3.1.1 for those who care - it now admits those archives it bypassed in the past 1.3 or 1.3.1 version so download it from the NASA site) - ah well, thanks for the invective, time to go nomail. On Sat, 18 Jun 2005, Bob Marcacci wrote: > are you a synthesizer > or a poet > > i don't want to know if you write > > do you sense the world > i don't want to know > if you make sense out of it > > i know you are not a child but i want to > know if you play > not which instrument > > -- > Bob Marcacci > > Calamity: a more than commonly plain and unmistakable > reminder that the affairs of this life are not of our own > ordering. Calamities are of two kinds: misfortune to > ourselves, and good fortune to others. > - Ambrose Bierce > > >> From: alexander saliby >> Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group >> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:00:22 -0700 >> To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >> Subject: Re: you're probably tired of these by now >> >> Alan, >> I read the first ten pages of "Travels with Charley" and vowed to drink more >> and read less, boring book from a great writer, proving for me that even the >> supremely talented have bad hair days. >> >> Sorry to report this, and you know I love you and you are welcome to my home >> so you can hit me on the chin for saying this, but I was tired of "Travels >> with Alan" after the second posting. I'd have been a lot happier had you >> taken an SSt and flown in the opposite direction. >> >> Do this for me: find me the essence of the people in a spot where you are, >> and keep yourselves out of the matter. I don't need to see Alan or "his" in >> strange places. I need to know that you can and do see, feel, hear, taste and >> touch the human element of the locals you encounter. >> >> From what I see and feel of your reports, you remain disassociated...stop >> that! Get the fuck out there and mingle, make some painful contacts. >> >> And Alan, don't find for me some forlorn or forsaken writer in your travels, >> hell creeps like me are all over Poetics. Find for me some skinny chap who >> loves his dog more than himself and spends all his income buying the canine >> pal only good food, depriving himself of his daily bread. And help me >> understand his motivation. >> >> Find for me the lady who still wears her wedding gown from the day she was >> left standing on the church steps. Let me hear her laughter from the >> recognition of her good fortune at having shed herself of the twit. >> >> Get your ass off the back end of the camera and sit on the fucking bench; feed >> the pigeons and embrace the people who sit beside you...then, share their >> experiences with us, if at all possible, share their joys and their sorrows, >> if they'll let you in on them. >> >> Other wise...hurry the fuck home and end this travel charade. >> Alex >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Alan Sondheim >> To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 10:03 PM >> Subject: you're probably tired of these by now >> >> >> you're probably tired of these by now >> i'm hungry for your (absent) replies >> it's hard enough to get myself motivated much less you >> i try to respond to work i like mine is unlikeable >> though i work hard at it making it pleasing for you >> http://www.asondheim.org/mapp.mov >> what it must mean to receive tender commendations >> while we travel across the united states documenting >> every stop through worldwind, thank you nasa >> you can meander the highways and the high lonesome places >> where vlf signals blew in from the outer reaches >> and you could follow the world in the world >> but you're probably tired of these by now >> these tired landscapes repeating themselves over and over again >> feeding the hungry is more rewarded than any replies >> i'll push myself until i die perhaps not soon enough for you >> yes yes i like no i love your work much better than mine >> (of work, yours / mine) always speaking is so unpleasant >> http://www.asondheim.org/mapp.mov >> the tenderness of all interstates and tiny wayfarer's lanes >> we are here for you, they signal and nothing utters response >> universal plasma is never angelic >> but you have listened to every reply with considerable patience >> >> >> >> - > ( URLs/DVDs/CDroms/books/etc. see http://www.asondheim.org/advert.txt ) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 02:38:37 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Alan Sondheim Subject: Re: you're probably tired of these by now In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed bye bye poetics, i'm leaving, thanks for the good times ( URLs/DVDs/CDroms/books/etc. see http://www.asondheim.org/advert.txt ) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 08:09:58 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maria Damon Subject: Re: you're probably tired of these by now In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" hey saliby: normally i don't get involved in these types of fracas, but you seem to cling to a very narrow and sentimental model of "travel literature" which has multiple problems of its own. why should people write the way you tell them to? that seems against the principles of freedom of expression or, as we in the univ system say, it's an "academic freedom" issue. At 11:00 PM -0700 6/17/05, alexander saliby wrote: >Alan, >I read the first ten pages of "Travels with Charley" and vowed to >drink more and read less, boring book from a great writer, proving >for me that even the supremely talented have bad hair days. > >Sorry to report this, and you know I love you and you are welcome to >my home so you can hit me on the chin for saying this, but I was >tired of "Travels with Alan" after the second posting. I'd have >been a lot happier had you taken an SSt and flown in the opposite >direction. > >Do this for me: find me the essence of the people in a spot where >you are, and keep yourselves out of the matter. I don't need to see >Alan or "his" in strange places. I need to know that you can and do >see, feel, hear, taste and touch the human element of the locals you >encounter. > >>From what I see and feel of your reports, you remain >>disassociated...stop that! Get the fuck out there and mingle, make >>some painful contacts. > >And Alan, don't find for me some forlorn or forsaken writer in your >travels, hell creeps like me are all over Poetics. Find for me some >skinny chap who loves his dog more than himself and spends all his >income buying the canine pal only good food, depriving himself of >his daily bread. And help me understand his motivation. > > Find for me the lady who still wears her wedding gown from the day >she was left standing on the church steps. Let me hear her laughter >from the recognition of her good fortune at having shed herself of >the twit. > >Get your ass off the back end of the camera and sit on the fucking >bench; feed the pigeons and embrace the people who sit beside >you...then, share their experiences with us, if at all possible, >share their joys and their sorrows, if they'll let you in on them. > >Other wise...hurry the fuck home and end this travel charade. >Alex > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alan Sondheim > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 10:03 PM > Subject: you're probably tired of these by now > > > you're probably tired of these by now > i'm hungry for your (absent) replies > it's hard enough to get myself motivated much less you > i try to respond to work i like mine is unlikeable > though i work hard at it making it pleasing for you > http://www.asondheim.org/mapp.mov > what it must mean to receive tender commendations > while we travel across the united states documenting > every stop through worldwind, thank you nasa > you can meander the highways and the high lonesome places > where vlf signals blew in from the outer reaches > and you could follow the world in the world > but you're probably tired of these by now > these tired landscapes repeating themselves over and over again > feeding the hungry is more rewarded than any replies > i'll push myself until i die perhaps not soon enough for you > yes yes i like no i love your work much better than mine > (of work, yours / mine) always speaking is so unpleasant > http://www.asondheim.org/mapp.mov > the tenderness of all interstates and tiny wayfarer's lanes > we are here for you, they signal and nothing utters response > universal plasma is never angelic > but you have listened to every reply with considerable patience > > > > - -- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:05:53 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mary Jo Malo Subject: def poetry jam MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What are your esteemed opinions of the "Def Poetry Jam" series, now into its 5th season? _http://www.hbo.com/defpoetry/_ (http://www.hbo.com/defpoetry/) Mary Jo ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:52:48 +0200 Reply-To: Anny Ballardini Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Anny Ballardini Subject: Re: you're probably tired of these by now In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi Alan,=20 whatever the multiple reactions _be them good or bad_ to your posts, and= =20 with a restricted time available /see end of school and this and that/ I've= =20 always found a moment to read your posts. Take care,=20 Anny Ballardini http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=3Dpoetshome Non serviam. Ni dieu ni ma=EEtre. On 6/18/05, Alan Sondheim wrote:=20 >=20 > no i don't sense the world and yes i do play currently a regal mandolin a= s > i have said. but then do you sense spherics? i'm certainly not a poet; i > find what i find and bring it back/curtail. > re the other a.s. i'm not the slightest bit interested in you're telling > me i'm 'disassociated.' first, you don't know me, and i probably wouldn't > be welcome in fact anywhere in your vicinity. second, you must have a > narrow view of association; you've already lectured me earlier on my not > take backways (which i've done innumerable times); i'm just not fulfillin= g > your fantasy in this case. i think the images and orderings are in fact > interesting in and of themselves; they show the changing topography of th= e > country, not to mention the changing topography of both rest-stops and > places that are reasonably remote from powerlines as to create clearspace > for vlf signals. > and b.m. - 'do i sense the world'? again what sort of question this is. i > certainly don't sense it the way you do and i don't see a split between > synthesizer or poet that warrants the first question. > interesting to me that neither of you, in what i see as an attack since > i'm diassociated and don't sense apparently - that neither of you > commented at all on the mapping. > as far as 'painful contacts' - who the hell are you to know who my > contacts are or of what sort? i don't write ad hominem to you - in fact i > couldn't care less about your personality or what you experience. you > didn't like what i did, period, and turned it into the usual ad hominem. > at the moment your contact in fact is the most painful i've had in a long > time, particularly in terms of its presumption. > generally i don't publish any more to this list, and for obvious reasons. > you'd rather attack than in fact dig the mapping - which by the way is a > relatively new program (Worldwind 1.3.1.1 for those who= =20 > care - it now > admits those archives it bypassed in the past 1.3 or 1.3.1 version so > download it from the NASA site) - > ah well, thanks for the invective, time to go nomail. >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Sat, 18 Jun 2005, Bob Marcacci wrote: >=20 > > are you a synthesizer > > or a poet > > > > i don't want to know if you write > > > > do you sense the world > > i don't want to know > > if you make sense out of it > > > > i know you are not a child but i want to > > know if you play > > not which instrument > > > > -- > > Bob Marcacci > > > > Calamity: a more than commonly plain and unmistakable > > reminder that the affairs of this life are not of our own > > ordering. Calamities are of two kinds: misfortune to > > ourselves, and good fortune to others. > > - Ambrose Bierce > > > > > >> From: alexander saliby > >> Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group > >> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:00:22 -0700 > >> To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > >> Subject: Re: you're probably tired of these by now > >> > >> Alan, > >> I read the first ten pages of "Travels with Charley" and vowed to drin= k=20 > more > >> and read less, boring book from a great writer, proving for me that=20 > even the > >> supremely talented have bad hair days. > >> > >> Sorry to report this, and you know I love you and you are welcome to m= y=20 > home > >> so you can hit me on the chin for saying this, but I was tired of=20 > "Travels > >> with Alan" after the second posting. I'd have been a lot happier had= =20 > you > >> taken an SSt and flown in the opposite direction. > >> > >> Do this for me: find me the essence of the people in a spot where you= =20 > are, > >> and keep yourselves out of the matter. I don't need to see Alan or=20 > "his" in > >> strange places. I need to know that you can and do see, feel, hear,=20 > taste and > >> touch the human element of the locals you encounter. > >> > >> From what I see and feel of your reports, you remain=20 > disassociated...stop > >> that! Get the fuck out there and mingle, make some painful contacts. > >> > >> And Alan, don't find for me some forlorn or forsaken writer in your=20 > travels, > >> hell creeps like me are all over Poetics. Find for me some skinny chap= =20 > who > >> loves his dog more than himself and spends all his income buying the= =20 > canine > >> pal only good food, depriving himself of his daily bread. And help me > >> understand his motivation. > >> > >> Find for me the lady who still wears her wedding gown from the day she= =20 > was > >> left standing on the church steps. Let me hear her laughter from the > >> recognition of her good fortune at having shed herself of the twit. > >> > >> Get your ass off the back end of the camera and sit on the fucking=20 > bench; feed > >> the pigeons and embrace the people who sit beside you...then, share=20 > their > >> experiences with us, if at all possible, share their joys and their=20 > sorrows, > >> if they'll let you in on them. > >> > >> Other wise...hurry the fuck home and end this travel charade. > >> Alex > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Alan Sondheim > >> To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > >> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 10:03 PM > >> Subject: you're probably tired of these by now > >> > >> > >> you're probably tired of these by now > >> i'm hungry for your (absent) replies > >> it's hard enough to get myself motivated much less you > >> i try to respond to work i like mine is unlikeable > >> though i work hard at it making it pleasing for you > >> http://www.asondheim.org/mapp.mov > >> what it must mean to receive tender commendations > >> while we travel across the united states documenting > >> every stop through worldwind, thank you nasa > >> you can meander the highways and the high lonesome places > >> where vlf signals blew in from the outer reaches > >> and you could follow the world in the world > >> but you're probably tired of these by now > >> these tired landscapes repeating themselves over and over again > >> feeding the hungry is more rewarded than any replies > >> i'll push myself until i die perhaps not soon enough for you > >> yes yes i like no i love your work much better than mine > >> (of work, yours / mine) always speaking is so unpleasant > >> http://www.asondheim.org/mapp.mov > >> the tenderness of all interstates and tiny wayfarer's lanes > >> we are here for you, they signal and nothing utters response > >> universal plasma is never angelic > >> but you have listened to every reply with considerable patience > >> > >> > >> > >> - > > >=20 > ( URLs/DVDs/CDroms/books/etc. see http://www.asondheim.org/advert.txt ) > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:13:04 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Peter Ciccariello Subject: Re: you're probably tired of these by now MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Alan, I'm rather new here, but wanted to let you know how much I enjoy your cinematic, episodic, travelogue. -Peter Ciccariello ARTIST'S BLOG - http://invisiblenotes.blogspot.com/ -----Original Message----- To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Sent: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:52:48 +0200 Subject: Re: you're probably tired of these by now ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:15:01 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jane Sprague Subject: Book Release L.A. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Los Angeles Launch: Jonathan Skinner's Political Cactus Poems =20 Jonathan Skinner and Jane Sprague Saturday June 18, 2005- 7:30 PM at Beyond Baroque Jonathan Skinner has lived in Mexico, Italy, France and, most recently, = New York State. Skinner edits the review ecopoetics in Buffalo, NY where = he curated the Steel Bar reading series. He is author of Political = Cactus Poems (Palm Press 2005). His chapbooks include Political Cactus = Poems (Periplum) and Little Dictionary of Sounds (RedDLines). He teaches = at SUNY and in the Buffalo public schools. Jane Sprague publishes Palm Press, www.palmpress.org. Her poems and = reviews are published in many print and online magazines. Recent work = can be found in How2, Xcp and Tarpaulin Sky. Her chapbooks include break = / fast, monster: a bestiary and The Port of Los Angeles.She lives and = works in Long Beach, CA. Beyond Baroque=20 681 Venice Blvd. Venice, CA 90291 www.beyondbaroque.org ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 01:27:47 +0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Bob Marcacci Subject: Re: you're probably tired of these by now In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit wait a minute... is it really true what i said? i'm obviously not making friends... -- Bob Marcacci |\ _,,,---,,_ /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL > From: Alan Sondheim > Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group > Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 02:36:42 -0400 > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Re: you're probably tired of these by now > > no i don't sense the world and yes i do play currently a regal mandolin as > i have said. but then do you sense spherics? i'm certainly not a poet; i > find what i find and bring it back/curtail. > re the other a.s. i'm not the slightest bit interested in you're telling > me i'm 'disassociated.' first, you don't know me, and i probably wouldn't > be welcome in fact anywhere in your vicinity. second, you must have a > narrow view of association; you've already lectured me earlier on my not > take backways (which i've done innumerable times); i'm just not fulfilling > your fantasy in this case. i think the images and orderings are in fact > interesting in and of themselves; they show the changing topography of the > country, not to mention the changing topography of both rest-stops and > places that are reasonably remote from powerlines as to create clearspace > for vlf signals. > and b.m. - 'do i sense the world'? again what sort of question this is. i > certainly don't sense it the way you do and i don't see a split between > synthesizer or poet that warrants the first question. > interesting to me that neither of you, in what i see as an attack since > i'm diassociated and don't sense apparently - that neither of you > commented at all on the mapping. > as far as 'painful contacts' - who the hell are you to know who my > contacts are or of what sort? i don't write ad hominem to you - in fact i > couldn't care less about your personality or what you experience. you > didn't like what i did, period, and turned it into the usual ad hominem. > at the moment your contact in fact is the most painful i've had in a long > time, particularly in terms of its presumption. > generally i don't publish any more to this list, and for obvious reasons. > you'd rather attack than in fact dig the mapping - which by the way is a > relatively new program (Worldwind 1.3.1.1 for those who care - it now > admits those archives it bypassed in the past 1.3 or 1.3.1 version so > download it from the NASA site) - > ah well, thanks for the invective, time to go nomail. > > > > On Sat, 18 Jun 2005, Bob Marcacci wrote: > >> are you a synthesizer >> or a poet >> >> i don't want to know if you write >> >> do you sense the world >> i don't want to know >> if you make sense out of it >> >> i know you are not a child but i want to >> know if you play >> not which instrument >> >> -- >> Bob Marcacci >> >> Calamity: a more than commonly plain and unmistakable >> reminder that the affairs of this life are not of our own >> ordering. Calamities are of two kinds: misfortune to >> ourselves, and good fortune to others. >> - Ambrose Bierce >> >> >>> From: alexander saliby >>> Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group >>> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:00:22 -0700 >>> To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >>> Subject: Re: you're probably tired of these by now >>> >>> Alan, >>> I read the first ten pages of "Travels with Charley" and vowed to drink more >>> and read less, boring book from a great writer, proving for me that even the >>> supremely talented have bad hair days. >>> >>> Sorry to report this, and you know I love you and you are welcome to my home >>> so you can hit me on the chin for saying this, but I was tired of "Travels >>> with Alan" after the second posting. I'd have been a lot happier had you >>> taken an SSt and flown in the opposite direction. >>> >>> Do this for me: find me the essence of the people in a spot where you are, >>> and keep yourselves out of the matter. I don't need to see Alan or "his" in >>> strange places. I need to know that you can and do see, feel, hear, taste >>> and >>> touch the human element of the locals you encounter. >>> >>> From what I see and feel of your reports, you remain disassociated...stop >>> that! Get the fuck out there and mingle, make some painful contacts. >>> >>> And Alan, don't find for me some forlorn or forsaken writer in your travels, >>> hell creeps like me are all over Poetics. Find for me some skinny chap who >>> loves his dog more than himself and spends all his income buying the canine >>> pal only good food, depriving himself of his daily bread. And help me >>> understand his motivation. >>> >>> Find for me the lady who still wears her wedding gown from the day she was >>> left standing on the church steps. Let me hear her laughter from the >>> recognition of her good fortune at having shed herself of the twit. >>> >>> Get your ass off the back end of the camera and sit on the fucking bench; >>> feed >>> the pigeons and embrace the people who sit beside you...then, share their >>> experiences with us, if at all possible, share their joys and their sorrows, >>> if they'll let you in on them. >>> >>> Other wise...hurry the fuck home and end this travel charade. >>> Alex >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Alan Sondheim >>> To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >>> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 10:03 PM >>> Subject: you're probably tired of these by now >>> >>> >>> you're probably tired of these by now >>> i'm hungry for your (absent) replies >>> it's hard enough to get myself motivated much less you >>> i try to respond to work i like mine is unlikeable >>> though i work hard at it making it pleasing for you >>> http://www.asondheim.org/mapp.mov >>> what it must mean to receive tender commendations >>> while we travel across the united states documenting >>> every stop through worldwind, thank you nasa >>> you can meander the highways and the high lonesome places >>> where vlf signals blew in from the outer reaches >>> and you could follow the world in the world >>> but you're probably tired of these by now >>> these tired landscapes repeating themselves over and over again >>> feeding the hungry is more rewarded than any replies >>> i'll push myself until i die perhaps not soon enough for you >>> yes yes i like no i love your work much better than mine >>> (of work, yours / mine) always speaking is so unpleasant >>> http://www.asondheim.org/mapp.mov >>> the tenderness of all interstates and tiny wayfarer's lanes >>> we are here for you, they signal and nothing utters response >>> universal plasma is never angelic >>> but you have listened to every reply with considerable patience >>> >>> >>> >>> - >> > > ( URLs/DVDs/CDroms/books/etc. see http://www.asondheim.org/advert.txt ) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:48:50 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Chris Stroffolino Subject: Re: Book Release L.A. Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi Jane--- Saw Mr. Skinner last night in SF; the book looks great. Have a great reading C ---------- >From: Jane Sprague >To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >Subject: Book Release L.A. >Date: Sat, Jun 18, 2005, 9:15 AM > > Los Angeles Launch: > Jonathan Skinner's Political Cactus Poems > > Jonathan Skinner and Jane Sprague > Saturday June 18, 2005- 7:30 PM > at Beyond Baroque > > Jonathan Skinner has lived in Mexico, Italy, France and, most recently, New > York State. Skinner edits the review ecopoetics in Buffalo, NY where he > curated the Steel Bar reading series. He is author of Political Cactus > Poems (Palm Press 2005). His chapbooks include Political Cactus Poems > (Periplum) and Little Dictionary of Sounds (RedDLines). He teaches at SUNY > and in the Buffalo public schools. > > Jane Sprague publishes Palm Press, www.palmpress.org. Her poems and reviews > are published in many print and online magazines. Recent work can be found > in How2, Xcp and Tarpaulin Sky. Her chapbooks include break / fast, > monster: a bestiary and The Port of Los Angeles.She lives and works in Long > Beach, CA. > > Beyond Baroque > 681 Venice Blvd. > Venice, CA 90291 > www.beyondbaroque.org ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:37:20 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Re: Book Release L.A. In-Reply-To: <200506181726.j5IHQ6pI069248@pimout1-ext.prodigy.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Yes, Jonathan Skinner launched the book last night at Tanya and Taylor Brady's. A good reading - a marvelous ear for quite particular sounds (birds, ducks, freight trains) crossing the land and great eye for the particulars within particulars (cactus, milk weed, etc.). A politics of affirming and sustaining the local in the broadest sense available to ones senses. It will be fun to see how Jonathan's reach and insight continues to grow. Stephen V Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com > Hi Jane--- > > Saw Mr. Skinner last night in SF; the book looks great. Have a great reading > > C > > ---------- >> From: Jane Sprague >> To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >> Subject: Book Release L.A. >> Date: Sat, Jun 18, 2005, 9:15 AM >> > >> Los Angeles Launch: >> Jonathan Skinner's Political Cactus Poems >> >> Jonathan Skinner and Jane Sprague >> Saturday June 18, 2005- 7:30 PM >> at Beyond Baroque >> >> Jonathan Skinner has lived in Mexico, Italy, France and, most recently, New >> York State. Skinner edits the review ecopoetics in Buffalo, NY where he >> curated the Steel Bar reading series. He is author of Political Cactus >> Poems (Palm Press 2005). His chapbooks include Political Cactus Poems >> (Periplum) and Little Dictionary of Sounds (RedDLines). He teaches at SUNY >> and in the Buffalo public schools. >> >> Jane Sprague publishes Palm Press, www.palmpress.org. Her poems and reviews >> are published in many print and online magazines. Recent work can be found >> in How2, Xcp and Tarpaulin Sky. Her chapbooks include break / fast, >> monster: a bestiary and The Port of Los Angeles.She lives and works in Long >> Beach, CA. >> >> Beyond Baroque >> 681 Venice Blvd. >> Venice, CA 90291 >> www.beyondbaroque.org ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 15:19:33 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Murray, Christine" Subject: Update: Chris Murray's Texfiles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://texfiles.blogspot.com --Review Essay: Question: *can I locate the heart's hot puddle without = irony's iron claw?*=20 Dale Smith's _Notes No Answer_ (Habenicht Press, 2005) --poem, "Cheerful Robotic Fish" --Ack! Jello Pitts!--on _Mr and Mrs Smith_ --On Joan Didion, "Questions of Kind" --poem, "Acappella" (on PBS' Independent Lens show, Robert = Evans'_Brother to Brother_) --OOOOOOO-ooooo Happy 5th Anniversary to Del Ray Cross and Shampoo!=20 --On the problem of Congress removing funding for Corporation for Public = Broadcasting--PBS/NPR --poem, for Sawako Nakayasu's call for 'insect poems':=20 Gaston Baquero's "Pavane for the Emperor" (trans. Mark Weiss, in = Poetry International VI, 2002) --Inter Leav(en)ing Samuel Beckett's _The Unnameable_ / *Nanofossil = Worm, Magnatite Whiskers* a transcript of readerly dialogism --from Stefan Hyner's _10 000 Journeys: Selected Poems, 1977-2003_ = (Skanky Possum, 2005),=20 "Interstellar Weather Report of the Mind" --from Audre Lorde, excerpt from "Who Said It Was Simple?" a call to = action, NYC, June 24, 2005: on The Audre Lorde Project: 1st Annual Trans Day of Action for = Social and Economic Justice --Image/Text Pieces: "Variations on Red Tide" --from Mina Loy, "Der Blinde Junge" =20 Stay active, Y'all, and stay cool. Chris Murray http://texfiles.blogspot.com http://e-po.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:38:27 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joe Brennan Subject: Check out The Assassinated Press Comments: To: corp-focus@lists.essential.org, WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Click here: The Assassinated Press http://www.theassassinatedpress.com/ After 'Looney Left' Take All The Risks Only To Be Proven Right Yet Again, Democrats Urge Inquiry On Bush, Iraq Based On A Handful Of Brit Memos: Greed, Self-Interest, Money, Jobs, Foppery, Ignorance, Religion, Fear, Cowardice, Slack Jawed Stupidity, Blind Patriotism, Lack Of Integrity, The Defining Qualities Of This Republic, Caught Most Supporting Administration Lies: Assassinated Press Didn't Need No Stinking Memos: Mainstream Media Prepared To Let Thousands More Die Instead Of Stepping Up; Movable Type Was A Product Of Germany Too By YASO ADIODI ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:51:26 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: mIEKAL aND Subject: e-publishing 2010 Comments: To: Writing and Theory across Disciplines , spidertangle@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed 'Teleporting' over the internet http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4102018.stm Computer scientists in the US are developing a system which would allow people to "teleport" a solid 3D recreation of themselves over the internet. Professors Todd Mowry and Seth Goldstein of Carnegie Mellon University in Pennsylvania think that, within a human generation, we might be able to replicate three-dimensional objects out of a mass of material made up of small synthetic "atoms". Cameras would capture the movement of an object or person and then this data would be fed to the atoms, which would then assemble themselves to make up an exact likeness of the object. They came up with the idea based on "claytronics," the animation technique which involves slightly moving a model per frame to animate it. "We thought that a good analogy for what we were going to do was claymation - something like the Wallace and Gromit shows," Dr Mowry told BBC World Service's Outlook programme. "When you watch something created by claymation, it is a real object and it looks like it's moving itself. That's something like the idea we're doing... in our case, the idea is that you have computation in the 'clay', as though the clay can move itself. "So if it was a dog, and you want the dog to move, it will actually move itself. But it is a physical object in front of you - it's not just a picture or hologram or something like that." Special suit Fans of science fiction have long been interested in the idea of teleportation - where an object, or even a human being, is transported from one location to another instantaneously. Professor Goldstein has envisioned that, eventually, the objects will be built with "nano-dust" - tiny objects that can be programmed to bind to each other and move - but currently they are trying to build at a much larger scale, working with objects the size of table-tennis balls. Their original plan was for the application to work in face-to-face interaction. Model of Gollum from Lord Of The Rings The technology mirrors that used to create the character of Gollum "I'm in Pittsburgh, and you're in London. How do we make that happen?" Dr Mowry said. "We can't teleport somebody - nobody's going to travel anywhere - but if we're in our own rooms a system of cameras will capture exactly what's in each room." He said that these cameras would work much the same way as the character of Gollum was created by capturing the movements of actor Andy Serkis in the Lord Of The Rings films. Mr Serkis wore a special suit and the cameras were able to interpret his movements. "That information is turned into some representation - a three-dimensional version of an mpeg [computer video file] - like a DVD," Dr Mowry added. "You capture it digitally, ship it over across the network, and then reproduce a physical object that looks just like the original object, and moves just like it." And he stressed this would be useful for much more than simple video conferencing. "It's very artificial to talk to somebody through a glass wall, which is effectively what you have when you have a screen," he added. "You want to forget the fact that you're in different rooms." ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:32:51 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Re: e-publishing 2010 In-Reply-To: <5a87e72dc7681fc704edc7d9013b8688@mwt.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit This is all a conspiracy being hoisted on us by the weight-loss and botox industries! Or, Adobe is already developing photo shop "self-readjustment software" in order to "self teleport" and just look "nice" as one steers one's body around a visit to the party that 2010 ecological issues (pollution, gas rations, etc.) would make it otherwise impossible for one to attend. I am assuming you can animate your 3-self with your voice from home and carry on conversations with folks sipping drinks, etc. Ah, 21st century delights. Thanks, Miekal! > 'Teleporting' over the internet > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4102018.stm > > Computer scientists in the US are developing a system which would allow > people to "teleport" a solid 3D recreation of themselves over the > internet. > > Professors Todd Mowry and Seth Goldstein of Carnegie Mellon University > in Pennsylvania think that, within a human generation, we might be able > to replicate three-dimensional objects out of a mass of material made > up of small synthetic "atoms". > > Cameras would capture the movement of an object or person and then this > data would be fed to the atoms, which would then assemble themselves to > make up an exact likeness of the object. > > They came up with the idea based on "claytronics," the animation > technique which involves slightly moving a model per frame to animate > it. > > "We thought that a good analogy for what we were going to do was > claymation - something like the Wallace and Gromit shows," Dr Mowry > told BBC World Service's Outlook programme. > > "When you watch something created by claymation, it is a real object > and it looks like it's moving itself. That's something like the idea > we're doing... in our case, the idea is that you have computation in > the 'clay', as though the clay can move itself. > > "So if it was a dog, and you want the dog to move, it will actually > move itself. But it is a physical object in front of you - it's not > just a picture or hologram or something like that." > > Special suit > > Fans of science fiction have long been interested in the idea of > teleportation - where an object, or even a human being, is transported > from one location to another instantaneously. > > Professor Goldstein has envisioned that, eventually, the objects will > be built with "nano-dust" - tiny objects that can be programmed to bind > to each other and move - but currently they are trying to build at a > much larger scale, working with objects the size of table-tennis balls. > > Their original plan was for the application to work in face-to-face > interaction. > > Model of Gollum from Lord Of The Rings > The technology mirrors that used to create the character of Gollum > "I'm in Pittsburgh, and you're in London. How do we make that happen?" > Dr Mowry said. > > "We can't teleport somebody - nobody's going to travel anywhere - but > if we're in our own rooms a system of cameras will capture exactly > what's in each room." > > He said that these cameras would work much the same way as the > character of Gollum was created by capturing the movements of actor > Andy Serkis in the Lord Of The Rings films. > > Mr Serkis wore a special suit and the cameras were able to interpret > his movements. > > "That information is turned into some representation - a > three-dimensional version of an mpeg [computer video file] - like a > DVD," Dr Mowry added. > > "You capture it digitally, ship it over across the network, and then > reproduce a physical object that looks just like the original object, > and moves just like it." > > And he stressed this would be useful for much more than simple video > conferencing. > > "It's very artificial to talk to somebody through a glass wall, which > is effectively what you have when you have a screen," he added. > > "You want to forget the fact that you're in different rooms." ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:52:43 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinksy Subject: Re: def poetry jam MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit haven't watched sure it sucks ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:07:01 +0300 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: shalom Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit sabra boob job big gun lethal force... nahariya....the jewish wars...drn... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 04:11:19 -0700 Reply-To: rsillima@yahoo.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ron Silliman Subject: Silliman's Blog Comments: To: Wom Po MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/ RECENT POSTS Jennifer Moxley’s line Typewriters! Style & Batman Begins Language poetry & the academy Zukofsky’s Apollinaire – is it really his? Louis Zukofsky – A different kind of Selected Works Online vs. print poets – is there a difference? Some recent online publications The six functions of language & the meaning of meaning Thomas A. Clark – An Objectivist in Scotland How books represent poetry: Jennifer Moxley, Ronald Johnson et al Open Field: 30 Contemporary Canadian Poets http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 05:53:38 -0700 Reply-To: rsillima@yahoo.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ron Silliman Subject: Andrade dies at 82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Portuguese Poet Andrade Dies at 82 - Monday, June 13, 2005 (06-13) 09:28 PDT LISBON, Portugal (AP) -- Eugenio de Andrade, one of Portugal's most revered poets, died Monday after a long illness, said a poetry foundation devoted to his work. He was 82. Andrade, who won numerous awards for his work, died in Porto at the Eugenio de Andrade Foundation where he had been living in the past decade, the foundation said. It did not provide any additional details. Andrade — whose real name was Jose Fontinhas — was born in 1923. He wrote his first poems at the age of 13, and his work was first published at age 16. His 1948 book "As Maos e os Frutos," or The Hands and the Fruits, garnered significant praise from members of the Portuguese literary establishment. He went on to write more than 30 books of poetry and prose, many of them — including the award-winning "Os Sulcos da Sede," or "The Streaks of Thirst" — translated into languages ranging from English to Chinese. The honors he won included a 1986 International Association of Literary Critics award and a 1989 Portuguese Association of Writers' award. Despite the relative fame his work earned him in his native land, Andrade largely stayed out of view, rarely appearing in public. On Monday, European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso called Andrade "a great personality of Portuguese culture." Fellow poet Manuel Alegre said Andrade was "one of the greatest poets of the Portuguese language." "Today is a day of mourning for Portuguese poetry," he said. A funeral for Andrade, who was not married and had not children, was to take place Tuesday in Porto. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:23:42 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "David A. Kirschenbaum" Subject: Book Printer Needed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi all, i'm preparing for publication boog's first single-author perfect-bound book, Sean Cole's The December Project, and i'm looking for a printer. the only thing to note is that i'm hoping for the book to have a textured cardstock cover (like black sparrow and the hat, among others), so this should open up the printer possibilities. you can backchannel me to editor@boogcity.com with any suggestions. thanks! david -- David A. Kirschenbaum, editor and publisher Boog City 330 W.28th St., Suite 6H NY, NY 10001-4754 T: (212) 842-BOOG (2664) F: (212) 842-2429 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:09:42 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ram Devineni Subject: Sundance Doc/Perdomo in Staten Island/Suheir Hammad MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear Friends: Some quick news. Rattapallax's reading during the RNC last year was featured in a new documentary produced by the Sundance Channel. The film is called THE FIRST AMENDMENT PROJECT and is directed by John Walter (who previously directed "How to Draw a Bunny." Other film-makers include Mario Van Peebles and Chris Hegedus & Nick Doob ("The War Room"). Also, please join us for a poetry reading featuring Willie Perdomo. Tuesday, June 21 at 7:00 p.m. in the little theatre. Poetry in the Branches at Port Richmond Library, 75 Bennett Street, Staten Island, (718.442.0158), NYC. Free. Lastly, Rattapallax has created a new imprint dedicated to Spoken Word called Cypher. The first collection we are publishing is "Zaatardiva" by Suheir Hammad. More info at http://www.rattapallax.com/cypher.htm Fresh from her Tony-Award winning stint in Def Poetry Jam on Broadway and a subsequent 51-city tour, Suheir Hammad has written her first collection of poetry since Born Palestinian, Born Black, published when she was just 22 years old. Zaatardiva is poetry about love, politics and art, all coming out of Hammad's bag of zataar. The poems in this collection are at once seductive and dangerous; they are possessed by a singular lyricism and awareness, and her call to action has a major presence in her work. The collection will include a CD and available in October 2005. More info at www.rattapallax.com Cheers Ram Devineni Publisher Please send future emails to devineni@rattapallax.com for press devineni@dialoguepoetry.org for UN program ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:40:00 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Craig Allen Conrad Subject: dear poets, FREQUENCY Audio Journal is now online, for FREE! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Many many thanks from CAConrad and Magdalena Zurawski to Charles Bernstein, Kun Jia and everyone else at UPenn who have just placed FREQUENCY Audio Journal on the PENNSOUND site! For those of you who are unfamiliar with FREQUENCY, it's an audio journal previously available only on CD. Now you can download all the tracks for free, anytime! Just go to: _http://www.writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Frequency.html_ (http://www.writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Frequency.html) Thanks again to Charles Bernstein, Kun Jia, and everyone else at PENNSOUND, CAConrad and Magdalena Zurawski, FREQUENCY editors _http://PhillySound.blogspot.com_ (http://phillysound.blogspot.com/) "Art, instead of being an object made by one person, is a process set into motion by a group of people. Art's socialized." --John Cage, 1967 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:57:48 -0400 Reply-To: az421@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Rob McLennan Subject: hydrant by rob mclennan Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT new from above/ground press hydrant a small chapbook of poems by rob mclennan $4 a poem in relation to a poem i wrote before (for lia is this anything like it was? the snowbird on the beach, watching bathers you have the most beautiful shoulders i have seen in any literature the day you made soup, hair wet from the shower, falling over your bare, thin shoulders i have less interest these days in crossing things out ======= rob mclennan lives in Ottawa, even though he was born there. the author of 10 trade poetry collections, & the most recent chapbook "carnage" (As We Try & Sleep Press, Winnipeg), he thinks he would make a good City of Ottawa poet laureate. i mean, it's not like anyone else is doing it. in his spare time, he edits/publishes above/ground press, STANZAS magazine, ottawater (www.ottawater.com) & a bunch of other things even he can't keep track of. he is currently finishing a novel or two. ======= published in ottawa by above/ground press. subscribers rec' complimentary copies. to order, add $1 for postage (or $2 for non-canadian) to rob mclennan, 858 somerset st w, main floor, ottawa ontario k1r 6r7. backlist catalog & submission info at www.track0.com/rob_mclennan ======= above/ground press chapbook subscriptions - starting January 1st, $30 per calendar year (outside of Canada, $30 US) for chapbooks, broadsheets + asides. Current & forthcoming publications by Adam Seelig, Julia Williams, Karen Clavelle, Eric Folsom, Alessandro Porco, Frank Davey, John Lavery, donato mancini, rob mclennan, kath macLean, Andy Weaver, Barry McKinnon, Michael Holmes, Jan Allen, Jason Christie, Patrick Lane, Anita Dolman, Shane Plante, David Fujino, Matthew Holmes + others. payable to rob mclennan. STANZAS subscriptions, $20 (CAN) for 5 issues (non-Canadian, $20 US). recent & forthcoming issues featuring work by rob mclennan, Jan Allen & Michael Holmes. bibliography on-line. ======= -- poet/editor/pub. ... ed. STANZAS mag & side/lines: a new canadian poetics (Insomniac)...pub., above/ground press ...coord.,SPAN-O + ottawa small press fair ...9th coll'n - what's left (Talon) ...c/o RR#1 Maxville ON K0C 1T0 www.track0.com/rob_mclennan * http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:51:09 +0100 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Peter Cudmore Subject: FW: International poetry request Comments: To: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and poetics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've grown so allergic to Nigerian scam e-mails that I thought I'd pass this on for analysis P _____ From: Oluwasegun Oke [mailto:segnispoetryclubng@yahoo.com] Sent: 20 June 2005 18:22 Subject: International poetry request Ever since i established Segnis Poetry Club in Feb. 23, 2004. I have been funding it basicly because of my interest in poetry, beacause I realised the need to have an online poetry Institution in Nigeria. Though, i have been organising events to reach out to more people,and I have been getting the public attention, which is a good result (Over 125 full members Registered). But I have along term goal for SEGNIS POETRY CLUB (SPC) and they include: -Having a Standard Website, on which Poetry competitions,Haiku, Publications and other poetic Links can be updated. Above all,We are looking at the prospect of Driving the public sectors, Entrepreneurs and Globacom Nig. Ltd.(ATelecom Giant in Nigeria) into it, through a friend. And our Blueprints to Convince them are: -International exposure of poetry club for people to reckon with us. The need to attend Work shops, Poetries and literary Festivals and exchange ideas with poets all around the world. These shall bring more fame and claims to international certificates which we can tender to Prompt potential sponsors. My names are Oluwasegun babafemi Oke I am a Representative of Segnis Poetry Club, Lagos, Nigeria. Having been through it tall, I decided to establish it in 2004, Because poetry was dying at the time. The important of poetry can not be clouded. But the main reason of writting you this mail is to extend our wish to participate in your poetry sympossium, contest, Events e.t.c. We shall be very grateful if our request was favoured. We shall be looking forward to the letter of invitation, and application of Visas. You can log on to our website http://poetrypoem.com/segnisonline for more Information Thank you for the opportunity. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:29:35 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Re: International poetry request Comments: To: "Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and"@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU, poetics In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I have a theory that all the "Nigerian scam-e-mails" are actually perpetrated by members of the Mississippi KKK - it's the organization's modern version of an old fashioned minstrel show. Whether or not that's true, it seems the site is a legit outlet for amateur poets - and just that. The supporting porno, etc. ads indicate the cost of getting a websit or blog online in Nigeria. Which is to say, Peter, if you are not familiar with Nigerian poets and poetry in English - which I suspect you are - it's a pretty well established world for a longtime now - Wole Soyinka the most well known big name. But poetry - from somebody who once taught in Nigeria - is very much alive, as is theater, music, etc. And the last thing to be confused with those scams. Stephen V > I've grown so allergic to Nigerian scam e-mails that I thought I'd pass this > on for analysis > > P > > _____ > > From: Oluwasegun Oke [mailto:segnispoetryclubng@yahoo.com] > Sent: 20 June 2005 18:22 > Subject: International poetry request > > > Ever since i established Segnis Poetry Club in Feb. 23, 2004. I have been > funding it basicly because of my interest in poetry, beacause I realised the > need to have an online poetry Institution in Nigeria. Though, i have been > organising > events to reach out to more people,and I have been getting the public > attention, which is a good result (Over 125 full members Registered). > But I have along term goal for SEGNIS POETRY CLUB (SPC) and they > include: > -Having a Standard Website, on which Poetry competitions,Haiku, Publications > and other poetic Links can be updated. Above all,We are looking at the > prospect of Driving the public sectors, Entrepreneurs and Globacom Nig. > Ltd.(ATelecom Giant in Nigeria) into it, through a friend. > And our Blueprints to Convince them are: > -International exposure of poetry club for people to reckon with us. The > need to attend Work shops, Poetries and literary Festivals and exchange > ideas with poets all around the world. These shall bring more fame and > claims to international certificates which we can tender to Prompt potential > sponsors. > > > > > > My names are Oluwasegun babafemi Oke > I am a Representative of Segnis Poetry Club, Lagos, Nigeria. > Having been through it tall, I decided to establish it in 2004, Because > poetry was dying at the time. The important of poetry can not be clouded. > But the main reason of writting you this mail is to extend our wish to > participate in your poetry sympossium, contest, Events e.t.c. > We shall be very grateful if our request was favoured. We shall be > looking forward to the letter of invitation, and application of Visas. > You can log on to our website http://poetrypoem.com/segnisonline for more > Information > Thank you for the opportunity. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:54:03 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Iraq in the rearview mirror! Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable For a counter-poetic observation: =B3We say we are in Mesopotamia [Iraq] to develop it for the benefit of the world. [A]ll experts say that the labour supply is the ruling factor in its development. How far will the killing of ten thousand villagers and townspeople this summer hinder the production of wheat, cotton, and oil? Ho= w long will we permit millions of . . . [dollars], thousands of . . . troops, and tens of thousands of Arabs to be sacrificed on behalf of . . . [an] administration which can benefit nobody but its administrators?" And guess who said that!.... Lawrence of Arabia in 1920. It is from: T. E. Lawrence, =B3A Report on Mesopotamia,The Sunday Times [London], August 22, 1920, World War I Document Archive, February 10, 1996, http://www.lib.byu.edu/~rdh/wwi/1918p/mesopo.html Is Vice President Cheney actually alive or is that a robot speaking all those =B3Iraq things-going-well=B2 seemingly prerecorded pieces of =B3happy talk=B2= ? Cheney=B9s behavior has me wondering about those Defense Department contracts for robot development in Silicon Valley. Remote controlled Voice-over chips implanted under the Vice Presdient=B9s front lip? On the other hand, Cheney, given his history, may still be what the robot industry calls =B3a natural=B2! Stephen V=20 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:46:41 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maria Damon Subject: Re: FW: International poetry request In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" priceless... At 7:51 PM +0100 6/20/05, Peter Cudmore wrote: >I've grown so allergic to Nigerian scam e-mails that I thought I'd pass this >on for analysis > >P > > _____ > >From: Oluwasegun Oke [mailto:segnispoetryclubng@yahoo.com] >Sent: 20 June 2005 18:22 >Subject: International poetry request > > >Ever since i established Segnis Poetry Club in Feb. 23, 2004. I have been >funding it basicly because of my interest in poetry, beacause I realised the >need to have an online poetry Institution in Nigeria. Though, i have been >organising >events to reach out to more people,and I have been getting the public >attention, which is a good result (Over 125 full members Registered). > But I have along term goal for SEGNIS POETRY CLUB (SPC) and they >include: >-Having a Standard Website, on which Poetry competitions,Haiku, Publications >and other poetic Links can be updated. Above all,We are looking at the >prospect of Driving the public sectors, Entrepreneurs and Globacom Nig. >Ltd.(ATelecom Giant in Nigeria) into it, through a friend. > And our Blueprints to Convince them are: >-International exposure of poetry club for people to reckon with us. The >need to attend Work shops, Poetries and literary Festivals and exchange >ideas with poets all around the world. These shall bring more fame and >claims to international certificates which we can tender to Prompt potential >sponsors. > > > > > >My names are Oluwasegun babafemi Oke >I am a Representative of Segnis Poetry Club, Lagos, Nigeria. >Having been through it tall, I decided to establish it in 2004, Because >poetry was dying at the time. The important of poetry can not be clouded. >But the main reason of writting you this mail is to extend our wish to >participate in your poetry sympossium, contest, Events e.t.c. >We shall be very grateful if our request was favoured. We shall be >looking forward to the letter of invitation, and application of Visas. >You can log on to our website http://poetrypoem.com/segnisonline for more >Information >Thank you for the opportunity. > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com -- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:57:32 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: mIEKAL aND Subject: Re: International poetry request In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit He doesn't seem to be asking for money & the site seems to be a legit site. Maybe Nigerian Scamese has become the new webspeak.. On Jun 20, 2005, at 1:51 PM, Peter Cudmore wrote: > I've grown so allergic to Nigerian scam e-mails that I thought I'd > pass this > on for analysis > > P > > _____ > > From: Oluwasegun Oke [mailto:segnispoetryclubng@yahoo.com] > Sent: 20 June 2005 18:22 > Subject: International poetry request > > > Ever since i established Segnis Poetry Club in Feb. 23, 2004. I have > been > funding it basicly because of my interest in poetry, beacause I > realised the > need to have an online poetry Institution in Nigeria. Though, i have > been > organising > events to reach out to more people,and I have been getting the public > attention, which is a good result (Over 125 full members Registered). > But I have along term goal for SEGNIS POETRY CLUB (SPC) and they > include: > -Having a Standard Website, on which Poetry competitions,Haiku, > Publications > and other poetic Links can be updated. Above all,We are looking at the > prospect of Driving the public sectors, Entrepreneurs and Globacom Nig. > Ltd.(ATelecom Giant in Nigeria) into it, through a friend. > And our Blueprints to Convince them are: > -International exposure of poetry club for people to reckon with us. > The > need to attend Work shops, Poetries and literary Festivals and exchange > ideas with poets all around the world. These shall bring more fame and > claims to international certificates which we can tender to Prompt > potential > sponsors. > > > > > > My names are Oluwasegun babafemi Oke > I am a Representative of Segnis Poetry Club, Lagos, Nigeria. > Having been through it tall, I decided to establish it in 2004, Because > poetry was dying at the time. The important of poetry can not be > clouded. > But the main reason of writting you this mail is to extend our wish to > participate in your poetry sympossium, contest, Events e.t.c. > We shall be very grateful if our request was favoured. We shall be > looking forward to the letter of invitation, and application of Visas. > You can log on to our website http://poetrypoem.com/segnisonline for > more > Information > Thank you for the opportunity. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:34:49 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jim Andrews Subject: review of Doom 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's an HTML version of a review of Doom 3 I wrote: Portuguese: http://p.php.uol.com.br/tropico/html/textos/2597,1.shl Thanks to Giselle Beiguelman and Paulo Migliacci. English: http://vispo.com/writings/essays/doom3.htm ja ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:01:36 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Murat Nemet-Nejat Subject: Silliman's Blog/ A Change of View MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 SSBoYXZlIGJlZW4gdHJ5aW5nIHRvIHJlc3BvbmQgdG8gUm9uJ3MgZW50cnkgb24gSmVubmlm ZXIgT3hsZXkgaW4gaGlzIGJsb2cgCnRvZGF5LCBidXQgSSBzZWVtIHVuYWJsZSB0byBnbyB0 aHJvdWdoIHRoZSByaXR1YWwgb2YgdXNlcnMgbmFtZSwgcGFzc3dvcmRzIGFuZCAKY3Jvb2tl ZCBsZXR0ZXJzLiBTbywgaGVyZSBpcyB3aGF0IEkgd2FudGVkIHRvIHNheSB0aGVyZToKCkkg YW0gaGFwcHkgdGhhdCBmaW5hbGx5IFJvbiBpcyBzZWVpbmcgdGhlIHBvd2VyIG9mIHBvZXRy eSBhcyBiZWluZyBtb3JlIHRoYW4gCmluIHRoZSBwaHlzaWNhbCB0ZXh0dXJlIChzb3VuZHMs IGV0Yykgb2Ygd29yZHMgYnV0IGluIHRoZSB0ZW5zaW9uIGFtb25nIHRoZW0gCi1iYXNpY2Fs bHkgaW4gdGhlaXIgbWV0YS10ZXh0dXJlLCB0aGF0IGlzLCB0aGUgc3BhY2UgYW1vbmcgdGhl bS4gSSBhbSBhbHNvIGdsYWQgCnRoYXQgdGhlIGNoYW5nZSBpcyBvY2N1cmluZyByZWFkaW5n IGEgc3VwZXJiIHBvZXQgbGlrZSBNb3hsZXkuCgpNdXJhdMKgCkluIGEgbWVzc2FnZSBkYXRl ZCAwNi8yMC8wNSA3OjExOjQzIEFNLCByc2lsbGltYUBZQUhPTy5DT00gd3JpdGVzOgoKCgo+ IGh0dHA6Ly9yb25zaWxsaW1hbi5ibG9nc3BvdC5jb20vCj4gCj4gUkVDRU5UIFBPU1RTCj4g Cj4gSmVubmlmZXIgTW94bGV54oCZcyBsaW5lCj4gCj4gVHlwZXdyaXRlcnMhCj4gCj4gU3R5 bGUgJiBCYXRtYW4gQmVnaW5zCj4gCj4gTGFuZ3VhZ2UgcG9ldHJ5ICYgdGhlIGFjYWRlbXkK PiAKPiBadWtvZnNreeKAmXMgQXBvbGxpbmFpcmUg4oCTCj4gaXMgaXQgcmVhbGx5IGhpcz8K PiAKPiBMb3VpcyBadWtvZnNreSDigJMKPiBBIGRpZmZlcmVudCBraW5kIG9mIFNlbGVjdGVk IFdvcmtzCj4gCj4gT25saW5lIHZzLiBwcmludCBwb2V0cyDigJMKPiBpcyB0aGVyZSBhIGRp ZmZlcmVuY2U/Cj4gCj4gU29tZSByZWNlbnQgb25saW5lIHB1YmxpY2F0aW9ucwo+IAo+IFRo ZSBzaXggZnVuY3Rpb25zIG9mIGxhbmd1YWdlCj4gJiB0aGUgbWVhbmluZyBvZiBtZWFuaW5n Cj4gCj4gVGhvbWFzIEEuIENsYXJrIOKAkwo+IEFuIE9iamVjdGl2aXN0IGluIFNjb3RsYW5k Cj4gCj4gSG93IGJvb2tzIHJlcHJlc2VudCBwb2V0cnk6Cj4gSmVubmlmZXIgTW94bGV5LCBS b25hbGQgSm9obnNvbiBldCBhbAo+IAo+IE9wZW4gRmllbGQ6Cj4gMzAgQ29udGVtcG9yYXJ5 IENhbmFkaWFuIFBvZXRzCj4gCj4gaHR0cDovL3JvbnNpbGxpbWFuLmJsb2dzcG90LmNvbS8K PiAKPiA= ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:03:10 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Murat Nemet-Nejat Subject: Re: Silliman's Blog/ A Change of View MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 SmVubmlmZXIsIHNvcnJ5IGFib3V0IHRoZSBtaXNzcGVsbCAoTW94bGV5KS4KTXVyYXQKCgpJ biBhIG1lc3NhZ2UgZGF0ZWQgMDYvMjAvMDUgNzowMTo1OSBQTSwgTXVyYXROTkBBT0wuQ09N IHdyaXRlczoKCgo+IEkgaGF2ZSBiZWVuIHRyeWluZyB0byByZXNwb25kIHRvIFJvbidzIGVu dHJ5IG9uIEplbm5pZmVyIE94bGV5IGluIGhpcyBibG9nCj4gdG9kYXksIGJ1dCBJIHNlZW0g dW5hYmxlIHRvIGdvIHRocm91Z2ggdGhlIHJpdHVhbCBvZiB1c2VycyBuYW1lLCBwYXNzd29y ZHMgCj4gYW5kCj4gY3Jvb2tlZCBsZXR0ZXJzLiBTbywgaGVyZSBpcyB3aGF0IEkgd2FudGVk IHRvIHNheSB0aGVyZToKPiAKPiBJIGFtIGhhcHB5IHRoYXQgZmluYWxseSBSb24gaXMgc2Vl aW5nIHRoZSBwb3dlciBvZiBwb2V0cnkgYXMgYmVpbmcgbW9yZSB0aGFuCj4gaW4gdGhlIHBo eXNpY2FsIHRleHR1cmUgKHNvdW5kcywgZXRjKSBvZiB3b3JkcyBidXQgaW4gdGhlIHRlbnNp b24gYW1vbmcgdGhlbQo+IC1iYXNpY2FsbHkgaW4gdGhlaXIgbWV0YS10ZXh0dXJlLCB0aGF0 IGlzLCB0aGUgc3BhY2UgYW1vbmcgdGhlbS4gSSBhbSBhbHNvIAo+IGdsYWQKPiB0aGF0IHRo ZSBjaGFuZ2UgaXMgb2NjdXJpbmcgcmVhZGluZyBhIHN1cGVyYiBwb2V0IGxpa2UgTW94bGV5 Lgo+IAo+IE11cmF0wqAKPiBJbiBhIG1lc3NhZ2UgZGF0ZWQgMDYvMjAvMDUgNzoxMTo0MyBB TSwgcnNpbGxpbWFAWUFIT08uQ09NIHdyaXRlczoKPiAKPiAKPiAKPiA+IGh0dHA6Ly9yb25z aWxsaW1hbi5ibG9nc3BvdC5jb20vCj4gPgo+ID4gUkVDRU5UIFBPU1RTCj4gPgo+ID4gSmVu bmlmZXIgTW94bGV54oCZcyBsaW5lCj4gPgo+ID4gVHlwZXdyaXRlcnMhCj4gPgo+ID4gU3R5 bGUgJiBCYXRtYW4gQmVnaW5zCj4gPgo+ID4gTGFuZ3VhZ2UgcG9ldHJ5ICYgdGhlIGFjYWRl bXkKPiA+Cj4gPiBadWtvZnNreeKAmXMgQXBvbGxpbmFpcmUg4oCTCj4gPiBpcyBpdCByZWFs bHkgaGlzPwo+ID4KPiA+IExvdWlzIFp1a29mc2t5IOKAkwo+ID4gQSBkaWZmZXJlbnQga2lu ZCBvZiBTZWxlY3RlZCBXb3Jrcwo+ID4KPiA+IE9ubGluZSB2cy4gcHJpbnQgcG9ldHMg4oCT Cj4gPiBpcyB0aGVyZSBhIGRpZmZlcmVuY2U/Cj4gPgo+ID4gU29tZSByZWNlbnQgb25saW5l IHB1YmxpY2F0aW9ucwo+ID4KPiA+IFRoZSBzaXggZnVuY3Rpb25zIG9mIGxhbmd1YWdlCj4g PiAmIHRoZSBtZWFuaW5nIG9mIG1lYW5pbmcKPiA+Cj4gPiBUaG9tYXMgQS4gQ2xhcmsg4oCT Cj4gPiBBbiBPYmplY3RpdmlzdCBpbiBTY290bGFuZAo+ID4KPiA+IEhvdyBib29rcyByZXBy ZXNlbnQgcG9ldHJ5Ogo+ID4gSmVubmlmZXIgTW94bGV5LCBSb25hbGQgSm9obnNvbiBldCBh bAo+ID4KPiA+IE9wZW4gRmllbGQ6Cj4gPiAzMCBDb250ZW1wb3JhcnkgQ2FuYWRpYW4gUG9l dHMKPiA+Cj4gPiBodHRwOi8vcm9uc2lsbGltYW4uYmxvZ3Nwb3QuY29tLwo+ID4KPiA+Cj4g Cgo= ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:02:35 +0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: derekrogerson Organization: derekrogerson.com Subject: [job] Dodge Poetry Program Assistant + Festival Assistant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Location: Morristown, NJ Overview: The Geraldine R. Dodge Poetry Program (a department of the Geraldine R. Dodge Foundation in Morristown, NJ) produces both the biennial Dodge Poetry Festival, the largest poetry event in North America, and Dodge Poetry-in-the-Schools activities for New Jersey teachers and New Jersey high school students. www.grdodge.org/poetry/ General Qualifications for both positions: - interest in learning more about contemporary poetry - ability to work independently - ability to prioritize - ability to see where help is needed - willingness to pitch in at every level of a project - strong interpersonal skills - demonstrated ability to speak and write clearly - capacity to produce effective letters and other documents - proficiency in proofreading and copy-editing - proficiency in Microsoft Word, Excel, and Access - empathetic imagination - flexibility, patience, and a lively sense of humor ______________________________________________ Poetry Program Assistant (full-time professional position) ______________________________________________ Specific Duties Include: - part of team planning and coordinating activities for New Jersey teachers, Dodge-supported mini-festivals, and Dodge Poet school visits (includes identifying and contracting schools and sites state-wide, scheduling events, and communicating with Dodge Poets and Host/Contact Teachers) - responding to inquiries about Poetry Program - maintaining Poetry database and files - developing, copy-editing, proofreading, and mailing a wide range of print documents - assisting in mounting biennial Poetry Festival. Specific Qualifications: - ability to take responsibility for a project (planning, follow through, completion, assessment of results) - college degree (preferably a B.A. in English/Creative Writing) - 4 years work experience, including event management - professional-level proficiency in copy-editing and proofreading - knowledge of the diverse streams and sub-cultures of contemporary poetry Salary: Commensurate with experience. The Foundation offers a full benefits package. Start Date: September 2005. ______________________________________________ Poetry Festival Assistant (full-time entry level position) ______________________________________________ Specific Duties Include: - responding to inquiries about Dodge Poetry Festival - maintaining Poetry database and files - assisting in developing, copy-editing, proofreading, and mailing a wide range of print documents - responsible for registering teachers and students for biennial Poetry Festival - maintaining inventory of Festival merchandise and supplies - managing Festival audio-visual archives - helping with logistics of Festival lodging and transportation - assisting Festival publicist - researching bibliographical and historical data - assisting in management of Dodge Poetry-in-the-Schools activities, as needed Specific Qualifications: - college degree preferred (ideally in English/Creative Writing) - knowledge of major trends in contemporary poetry Annual Salary: High $20,000s. The Foundation offers a full benefits package. Start Date: September 2005. ______________________________________________ Contact (for both positions): ______________________________________________ Please do not phone. Email resume and cover letter by July 8, 2005, indicating the position for which you are applying in the subject field. Jim Haba, Poetry Director Geraldine R. Dodge Foundation P.O. Box 1239 Morristown, NJ 07962-1239 mailto:poetryprogram@grdodge.org The Dodge Foundation is an equal opportunity employer. http://www.grdodge.org/foundation_employment.htm ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:10:18 +0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: derekrogerson Organization: derekrogerson.com Subject: [job] June Jordan's Poetry for the People Program Assistant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Location: Berkeley, CA Job Title: Program Assistant II Requisition #: 002927 Department: African American Studies Location: Main Campus-Berkeley Salary: $16.00 - $18.32 hourly Hours: Part-time, 20-hour/week Closing Date: 07/01/2005 Under the general direction of the Director and MSO, the incumbent in this position has complete functional responsibility for June Jordan's the Poetry for the People's office , program, expenses, and administrative services. The Department of African American Studies is an academic teaching unit in the Social Sciences Division of the College of Letters and Science. It comprises currently of 8.5 faculty FTEs, 30 graduate students, and 4 FTE support staff. June Jordan's Poetry for the People is a program within the department of African American Studies and consists of a director (Lecturer) and numerous student teacher poets. Responsibilities: Complete responsibility for managing the administrative aspects of the program including but not limited to: - coordinate outreach programs and performances - schedule, set up, and publish events - respond to written, email and telephone inquiries - book guests and arrange for their travel and lodging - archive all program material - perform bookkeeping and budget management - coordinate the publication of several student anthologies each year - work closely with the Program Director and the Instructor of Record for African American Studies 158A, 158B, and 156AC - help ensure integrity and work towards the continuation of June Jordan's Poetry for the People - help build a collaborative community of student teacher poets - establish communication and working relationships with department and other university officials - interface with UCB sponsors of P4P studies and commitments - attend staff meetings - assist student teacher poets as necessary and assemble teaching materials - make copies of course handouts and keep office supplies stocked as needed - help send readers and anthologies to print. - make sure all AV needs are met for readings - assist with fundraising and production of publicity for all events Required Qualifications: Candidates should have experience in managing multiple projects in a busy environment, ability to set and meet deadlines, organize events, supervise student workers -- all with minimal guidance, as well as computer proficiency in Microsoft Word, Mac OS, Microsoft Excel, Microsoft PowerPoint, Adobe Photoshop, InDesign (or other layout programs), and email. Candidate should have a positive, optimistic, and spirited attitude about the program and be able to work well with a diverse population of faculty, staff, and students. Desired Qualifications: Ability to work a flexible work schedule and some evenings. Experience with fundraising and grant applications. Experience with university payment policies and procedures. apply online @ http://jobs.berkeley.edu/ Requisition #: 002927 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:47:52 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Susan Webster Schultz Subject: Tinfish Press announces CRIBS, by Yunte Huang Comments: To: sschultz@hawaii.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CRIBS, by Yunte Huang, has arrived (well, the first two copies). For fans of blurbs, there are three barn-burners by Marjorie Perloff, Forrest Gander, and Rob Wilson. For fans of poetry, there are "Think Haiku, Act Locu," "Tofu Your Life," "The Liver Failure of Poetry," and many more. The book combines mad puns with sane meditations on immigration, language, and many manners of cribbing. See http://tinfishpress.com for details and to order. aloha, Susan Susan M. Schultz Editor ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:49:51 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Susan Webster Schultz Subject: tinfish part deux MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a note to add that I will be away from June 27 through August 8, but in my absence you can still contact me at this address or get in touch with Ann Iwashita at anni@bishopmuseum.org She will be filling orders in my absence. sms ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:08:25 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: norman finkelstein Subject: Tipton & Finkelstein at Myopic Books Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 John Tipton and Norman Finkelstein will be reading on Sunday, June 26th, at= 7:00 PM at Myopic Books, 1564 N. Milwaukee Ave., Wicker Park, Chicago. Fo= r more information, go to http://www.myopicbookstore.com/poetry/poetry.html --=20 _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at= once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:16:26 -0400 Reply-To: tyrone williams Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: tyrone williams Subject: Re: Tipton & Finkelstein at Myopic Books Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Norman, Say hi to John for me. Want to get together again either this week or the next? Ty -----Original Message----- From: norman finkelstein Sent: Jun 21, 2005 10:08 AM To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Tipton & Finkelstein at Myopic Books John Tipton and Norman Finkelstein will be reading on Sunday, June 26th, at 7:00 PM at Myopic Books, 1564 N. Milwaukee Ave., Wicker Park, Chicago. For more information, go to http://www.myopicbookstore.com/poetry/poetry.html -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:08:28 -0700 Reply-To: ishaq1823@telus.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: watching herberts while dusting off tonguues (from more at 7:30: notes from new palestine) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ardbop keep mashin the rare grooves versionized by Bobby “Digital” Dixon til the vinyl melt and drip off the table. Selector murge the word way from the sonic fightin and fussin. Chanter bring back the intellegence of our ridmic discussion. Rocker high ball a ball of audio power into the palms of your hands and blast um into a sonic concussion. Thunder clap the kai from the rhythm of Augustus Pablo to excessive bass drops by chanting vatos. King Tim select and hookup a new wheel like he mixin faster then Flash and mi amigo Latino Frost thump his calo spits supreme. Sir Joe Quarterman with his Free Soul meter the score for this African music machine. ...and No, he sits on a couch scribbling duas inna Blue 5 Star Note Book while a Tek and Army use the flow residue to chat up three janes convincin them to take their tops off and go for a cruz down Chambers. -Mi homebwoy Mightier than a nine, nekgah- -Awo, ila, stunt and steal, my brutha Smashin um with bad bwoy rhythm- -Kill’em with piyyutim Sun and steel Fueled by peyote and dynamite Nekgah can you kill Don’t you sight the injustice? Are you in denial? Consider the other options -..of full fledge warrior versions- -Rude can you do anythin more Black can you do? Woht do you do? But hate on a dude smaller than you I watch the herberts Who scan the party Their violence like love Woht comes in spurts I fill my chest up With hurt and disorder And ask one more time Where you at my brother I wait on corners longso Watchin pops Dusting off tongues For you My writs Are armed with anti-Hip hop rass Jazz spits my fear appears to you like is was news Trippin the pen tip At the end of this Completed in couplets Say Black, you dat the still heartz- -Can you jack/a bosie’s ballcap back download and copy that- -Not the colour of their skin, ila You best judge them, brutha on the content of their selector- -G’¡Ya! sir! ’- -¡Ya! sir Nouvo Somalia – -Send me a kite like a dua- -Yardies gon a fire bless the city of Omo Raise down parkinglots on Nanaimo- -Poro, usin 1 to 2 rounds fire for effect- -Do nothin useless. Kan our 3rd flava cause and Affect. Ovastan the balance Of our corny flex- -Of Poetic murdah- -but who heard, yuh hear... Do nothin evil Could you make a kill hard? Not in name but in definition? Destroy the anti-captive And out gangsta Gawd- -Use gloves of human flesh to conceal the tru rude- -Our weapons Vai for Poro in pimpt out vines- -Sendin kites like samizdat Can you imagine thét This the fuct up flow of our kind- -We are the aceboon combination- -I cyan go on bout battlin MC’s Ima born an elbow thét’s gots lessons Thét’ll piss off the G’z I’ll grapple adle mindz Neva leave your ass behind/follow Dub flow/ hit the switch Rise and find the me Wiphin Mega self imitation The verbal mix of math and More’s lithium Cha! check his elbow Mathematical calo And he not even bullet proof like mi amigo Castro Radic the bad verbs Fuctup the track like Wiley Coyote fanatics Riddimic addicts/nah neva spittin Knowledge thét’s full of borin digits Poro gon fight the bosie poetics Write noisey Samurai love poems- -because who's really bout it?- -Look it. Watch it The bosie punks bust a gut and die Nutt and Tuff Nutt and Shu Dem yush nah gon astray Nah bad stress in the Mudmadness- -Rude dudes mashin badness- -The nuff level- -Rise above the the nuthiness- Rockum/sockum We crash the devil’s nasty crew Gag it up with Atom/atum Adom/adom- -Oh, buck’em and bang Black Flag- -Wrap our breddens wounds up inna do rags. Only a nekgah can become closer to Gawd, Poro- -Where Gawd at, holmes- -He close, luv- -Black can only bully fist and clock a crittah into madness- -Build more wide the museum of malcontent blackmen- -Bumpin it up on an Abyssian boom box in a bitches world A Black father’s advice to his son- -Daddy say, ‘you stupid, dun’- -My daddy sings- -His daddy sings- -He drunk and his daddy sings- Says the 3 janes - the cute, the cuter; the cutess, -Awo, coo coo, Let’s roll, *homebwoys*- Such pretty titties too. 1426 Lawrence Y Braithwaite (aka Lord Patch) New Palestine/Fernwood/The Hood Victoria, BC ___ Stay Strong "Be a friend to the oppressed and an enemy to the oppressor" --Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib (as)\ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_comments/766_0_15_0_C/ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:27:43 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: Elephant's Memory, Sadness, Etc. Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 The elephant is the wisest and saddest of the animals in the kingdom of ani= mals The elephant is the wisest and saddest of the animals in the kingdom of ani= mals He and She remembers the trauma of the last stories before they were imagin= ed Before the stories were told to us the Stupidest of the animals in the king= dom of animals The elephant is the saddest and wisest of all the animals in the kingdom of= animals for He and She cannot tell us of their sadness The elephant is the saddest and wisest of all the animals in the kingdom of= animals for He and She cannot tell us of their sadness --=20 _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for just= US$9.95 per year! Powered By Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:33:13 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: Please Devise A Plan for Blow Up Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 21 minutes no interruptions for Sarah, Mom, and Alice N. 28 years in the adult wonders about adult word wonders for 28 y= ears what word is this spelling it and saying it are they the sam= e? 28 years of words spent 28 years with words repeating them as = if to interrupt one with another relying on them so as to say "I am go= ing" and hear "went without you" is he serious I am = very serious all this after 28 years no money no lifestyle worth= adoration brilliant they'll say later after how many years = of waiting because i suspected this famous infamous not jeal= ous i am not your cover girl person or otherwise besides ali= ce notley is much more interesting than not her husband died was= i her husband after 28 years i left for paris and settled in a mesqui= te village what makes me a fucking cover girl now that the word is gon= e adult it brings too many ideas and focuses on every one of them= i am the cross and crocus of the word that sense makes i am in t= he sense of nothing happening here give me a one way ticket to kno= w thyself it was said after 28 years of spelling the word adult = i was given to fits of rage but not trying them on that is nothing= fit anymore i was 28 and i was lost in my wife's ever trying bosom = it left me blind and the crocus left me without saying goodbye i sa= id "28" no "twenty eight" i spelled it two words before i ma= de the decision to eat the file it contains no ones and no zeros just = the spelling of my name x o p h e "ex Oh Pee Aich Ee" it xeroxed its f= orehead and i became it 28 years before falling down the stairs my mot= her's bosom was not my wife's i am settled now hungry sometim= es leather never we can't afford it but the crocus and 2= 8 no that's "twenty eight" i'm not spelling it anymore the cros= s and crocus of my wishes to be born again and into a family of degenerates= i am not a degenerate you can't point with poetry that's why my = fingers have been eaten by the birds of prose they spell twenty eight = =9328=94 and no spelling on this side of the ocean can makes sense elsewher= e we're degenerates and we call ourselves cover girls spelling it corr= ectly or in numbers figures of heads appearing before we made a decisi= on to write this was before i wrote moby dick or phallus of the great = german scrotum thingy i was alive for a while my wife killed me b= efore the baby no it never happened the baby never came do y= ou know why? there was no baby there was a wife yes there = was a baby lying in its crib crying 28 or spelling twenty eight o= r counting 28 fingers all in a row this little piggy ate the market = and these three wish there were no market we're not drug addicts ind= uced at least by an economy of drugs or drug induced economics we b= orrow money all the time the guilt of which i am torn by spending it was= never an issue my wife was sugarmad and every chance was a mad dash f= or the splenda routine the file on my life is 28 pages long spelled pr= ecisely that i was born again i never mentioned this before you = interrupted me again this poetry thing this economy of words this spel= ling this waiting to be called cover girl this routine of files and numbers= and equations and letting go of the fact that you're not 27 years old anym= ore and the grunge heap of factors that brings you down and up again crying= like a baby with 28 no that's it you're not through you pr= omised me 28 or twenty eight minutes of relief but this nightmare "how= much do they think pills cost?" it's not my line or is it not my life= ? how much does plagiarism cost the man who invented it? every t= ime we get on the bus and sit we recreate an action it's been 28 times= since i've last been induced to act my wife is the bosom now her b= osom is my mother's own glory she's retarded both of them my wif= e and my mother but they are not they are singly manifestations of 28 years= of insipience he lied the poet lied and everyone died he op= ened his mouth no his eyes even better now his pen! he devolved into t= he lotus flower fermented became 28 fingers of the baby crying in the= heat of his own childhood "mother mother i beg of you = i beg you to give suck" she cried 28 times before he misspelled her= age name occupation goals gender gender doesn't even matter anymore = one more minute and i say to you both i love you no "i love you" s= pelled 28 time across this great expanse of face --=20 _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for just= US$9.95 per year! Powered By Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:02:47 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: ALDON L NIELSEN Subject: The Black Arts Movement MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Another really valuable book is now available: The Black Arts Movement: Literary Nationalism in the 1960s and 1970s by James Smethurst University of North Carolina Press ISBN 0-8078-5598-7 Alan Wald calls it "A momentous and singular contribution . . ." Lorenzo Thomas says "Smethurst gets it right!" -- and he would know, having been there -- there's still a great deal of work to be done on this subject, but Smethurst supplies the much-needed history that others will turn to for many years to come -- Great cover art from Nelson Stevens -- a mural from 1973 -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Breaking in bright Orthography . . ." --Emily Dickinson Aldon L. Nielsen Kelly Professor of American Literature The Pennsylvania State University 116 Burrowes University Park, PA 16802-6200 (814) 865-0091 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:08:00 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Catherine Daly Subject: FW: Review Books Batch: Poetry/Graphic Novels/Books for Saucy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is from Bookslut. Some great review oppty's -- contact Jessica Crispin to review -- Poetry: Company of Moths by Michael Palmer Hieratic, hypnotic, at times apocalyptic, Palmer's 10th volume (his first since 2001) offers more of the serious pleasures and delvings that have won him admiration over 30 years. The four sequences here (almost all in unrhymed couplets) sometimes recall techniques of meditation; his tracings and gestures recall choreography (Palmer's other profession), too, envisioning "the dance// of the thing and its name,/ lost limb and its shadow," or chasing a lost blackbird through a seascape of dreams. Despite their mysterious feel, the poems also produce stern millennial foreboding: "Letter to a Vagrant" cautions against "new slings, new arrows,/ new weapons of mass affection," and instructs "prepare to board the burning boat." Scarlet Tanager by Bernadette Mayer Mayer's first book of new verse since 1998 shows her ease in many poetic forms, her attraction to New York City and to the Berkshires (where she now lives), her recovery from a recent stroke and her continued enthusiastic enmeshment with writing itself. Mayer (Midwinter Day) begins with 25 pages of brief poems she calls epigrams, some witty, some musical, some playfully bizarre. The bigger, freer poems that follow (several of them collaborations) include apparent nonsense ("leopard/ yodeled alleluias, vehement borax after reaching/ the extraterrestrials") but also talky, enthusiastic odes ("This Is a Problem-Solving Dream Where the Group Attempts to Change the Language"), charming verse dialogues ("House, I am gay"; "I am too"), free-verse sonnets, diary-poems and work based on found texts ("Before Sextet," a riff on condom-use instructions). Above all, the collection highlights the rambles, digressions and whimsies on which Mayer's style depends. My Sweet Unconditional by Ariel Robello In her debut collection of poems, My Sweet Unconditional, ariel robello meets us at the horizon, where worlds blend in the blush of sunrise and sunset, where land meets sea, air -- earth, and where man and machine interrupt the natural ebb and flow of life. Unapologetic, she declares her faith in a love that defies borders and with each poem she weds herself to a belief that unconditional love can still be found in the cracks of an urban sidewalk, dancing above puffing smoke stacks, behind a guerilla's mask... Graphic Novels: Walt and Skeezix, edited by Chris Ware Chris Ware has often cited Gasoline Alley as one of his favorite comic strips ever, and he has lovingly edited and designed Walt & Skeezix: Book One, the first-ever collection of the classic newspaper strip created by one of the pioneering giants of American comic strips, Frank King. Not only does this volume reprint the first two years of the strip in which King's friendly and nostalgic imagination took shape but each book in the series features an eighty-page color introduction by Jeet Heer of Canada's National Post. Each introduction will also feature never-before-seen archival photos and ephemera from the personal collection of King's granddaughter. Walt & Skeezix is not just a collection of a classic comic strip-it is the story of a great American cartoonist. The Murder of Abraham Lincoln by Rick Geary This latest volume of Geary's series A Treasury of Victorian Murder is a must-read for those who are only familiar with cursory details of Lincoln's assassination. Geary's meticulous research and vivid illustrations create a fascinating narrative that covers the 62 days between March 4 and May 4, 1865, and provide a wealth of information on murderous thespian and Southern loyalist John Wilkes Booth and his co-conspirators, some of whom backed out of the assassination plot. Geary paints Booth as a man with an exorbitant need for attention and aggrandizement. History shows he achieved the attention he sought, but rather than being hailed as a hero to the South, Booth found himself regarded as an utter villain by those whose favor he hoped to garner. Geary also gives much attention to the bizarre elements of the case, such as Lincoln's ominous dreams of his own death, the strange actions of Secretary of War Edwin McMasters Stanton and the shockingly lax security around the president, all the more alarming when coupled with obvious hints beforehand that something foul was afoot in the capital. Spaniel Rage by Vanessa Davis Davis's principal character is a young woman whose Renoiresque form belies her seething inner life... The quotidian structure of much of Spaniel Rage presents the reader with glimpses of a young woman's meandering path into adulthood in this beautifully drawn, intelligent portrait of self coming into its own. Earthboy Jacobus by Doug TenNapel Chief Edwards retires from the Modesto Police Department, doomed to face a life of loneliness and insignificance. Everything changes when Chief hits a flying whale with his car. When he opens the beast's mouth, he finds a boy from a parallel universe named Jacobus. Tommysaurus Rex by Doug TenNapel Ely is an everyboy trying to cope with the death of his dog Tommy. When he finds a live, 40-foot Tyrannosaurus Rex trapped in a cave behind his grandfather's house, Ely embarks on an adventure to tame this seemingly friendless giant, convince the town his new pet isn't a threat and keep his dinosaur safe from the jealous town bully. Paul Moves Out by Michel Rabagliati This charming sequel to Paul Has a Summer Job continues Rabagliati's heavily autobiographical look at his days as a young adult in Montreal. Here, we see Paul at design school, falling under the spell of a charismatic teacher, and meeting and eventually moving in with Lucie, a fellow student who impresses him with her knowledge of Tintin. Rabagliati covers everything in a nostalgic glow, so even an episode when the teacher makes a pass at him comes off as a simple misunderstanding rather than a sordid event. The story is episodic, following such tiny everyday scenes as a scary handyman who destroys Paul and Lucie's bathroom while trying to kill a rat, the death of a favorite aunt and a weekend spent babysitting some kids. Der Struwwelmaakies by Tony Millionaire The next volume in Millionaire's twisted series, The Maakies. Peculia and the Groon Grove Vampires by Richard Sala Night is coming and the local babysitters club needs an extra sitter. That strange new family in town is expecting four warm bodies, not three -- one for each member of their household. Each sharp-toothed, blood-thirsty, downright undead member of their household. Negative Burn, Winter 2005 anthology Perhaps the most eccentric anthology in the history of comics, Negative Burn is an anomaly, merging together genres, pushing boundaries and allowing the top comic book talent in the world the opportunity to experiment with unique stories. Never to follow a course, each volume of Negative Burn presents the biggest stars in the industry today while continuing to showcase the next wave of new talent. Some of the stories featured are: "Milk and Cheese" by Evan Dorkin, "Mr. Glum" by Erik Larsen, "Sketchbook" by Vince Locke, "Hawaiian Dick" by B. Clay Moore and Shawn Crystal. Hutch Owen: Unmarketable!! by Tom Hart Four years after The Collected Hutch Owen was nominated for best collected edition by the Harvey, Eisner, and Ignatz awards, creator Hart returns with 192 new pages featuring the personality that Savant magazine describes as "so accurately dead-on that it's scary... His refusal to become antoher interchangeable part in society's machine is believable, amusing, and intensely applicable at the same time." Books for Saucy: 2006 Wine Buying Guide for Everyone by Andrea Immer Robinson The first guide to buying wine that grades the top-selling premium wines in stores and restaurants: popular supermarket brands, trade-up brands, and super-premium labels. Andrea Immer, one of America's foremost wine authorities, surveyed thousands of wine professionals and ordinary consumers, who assess what really matters most-taste and value for the money. Great Wine Made Simple: Straight Talk from a Master Sommelier by Andrea Immer Robinson (INTERVIEW POSSIBILITY) About one-third of the way through Andrea Immer's Great Wine Made Simple, the author recounts an anecdote that could serve as the book's theme--alligator, rabbit, and squab were all introduced to her the same way: "Tastes like chicken." And as demonstrated by Immer, who went from debentures to de Rothschild when she quit Morgan Stanley to eventually oversee the 50,000-bottle cellar at Manhattan's famed Windows on the World, the leap from pigeon to Pichon-Lalande is analogous: teaching novice wine drinkers what to expect is what her book, aptly subtitled "Straight Talk from a Master Sommelier", is all about. Read it and Eat: A Month-by-Month Guide to Scintillating Book Club Selections and Mouthwatering Menus by Sarah Gardner Why order pizza while discussing Barbara Ehrenrich's Nickel and Dimed when you can eat like the characters in the book (Pasta on a Tight Budget)? Gardner, publisher of the bimonthly newsletter The Literary Gathering, plans out a year's worth of books and menus for book clubs. The books (four per month) range from classic to contemporary, and encompass fiction and nonfiction; the accompanying themed menus are made up of generally uncomplicated fare. Gardner also includes discussion questions for each book. September honors Celebrate Banned Books Week, with suggestions for reading The Color Purple (and eating Southern foods, like Harpo's Fountain 7 UP Cake). Some book choices are unusual (Geshundeit!, a health book by Patch Adams); others predictable (Angela's Ashes, by Irishman Frank McCourt, in March; Gone with the Wind for February romance); and a few accompanying meal suggestions are a stretch (The Catcher in the Rye features some peripheral characters from Buffalo, NY, so Gardner suggests readers try some of the city's specialty foods, like Roast Beef on Kimmelweck). The Perfect Buzz: The Essential Guide to Boozing, Bars, and Bad Behavior by David Bramwell Anyone can sip a beer or down a shot, but The Perfect Buzz teaches the subtle art of drinking, with tips, tricks, and trivia that will liven up any night out, including: * Knowing what to order from whiskey to organic beers * Ordering a beer in twenty-five languages, so you can quench your thirst anytime, anywhere * Improving your dating technique with dozens of pickup lines way cooler than "You come here often?" * Rules for pool, darts, and Foosball so you can hold your own in any challenge * Tons of bar tricks and drinking games that will keep you entertained for hours. Noble Rot: A Bordeaux Wine Revolution by William Echikson In vino veritas. Yet as Echikson (Burgundy Stars) shows in this entertaining journey through Bordeaux's wine-making landscape, the truth of wine is also highly subjective and subject to change. Bordeaux has long epitomized fine wine. In 1662, Echikson relates, the English diarist Samuel Pepys described "a sort of French wine called Ho Bryan that hath a good and most particular taste...." This Haut-Brion was the first Bordeaux wine; it would soon join a handful of other chateaux that became the coveted "first growths." Indeed, Thomas Jefferson noted there were "four vineyards of first quality": Margaux, Latour, Lafite and Haut-Brion. After a rigid classification system was imposed in 1855, it seemed likely that the French reverence for tradition would make "innovative Bordeaux" an oxymoron. Over the last several decades, however, some revolutionary "garagistes" (garage wine makers) have begun using new growing and wine-making techniques to show the world that less than perfect land and less than blue blood can yield extraordinary wines. -- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:17:49 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "J. Scappettone" Subject: Bay Area Poetry Marathon this Saturday evening at The Lab MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The second date for this summer's BAY AREA POETRY MARATHON is DATE: SATURDAY, June 25 TIME: Readings begin at 7pm PLACE: The Lab, 2948 16th Street, San Francisco (16th & Mission BART stop, then one block east on 16th) READERS (listed alphabetically, not in order of appearance): ** George Albon, David Buuck, Kate Colby, Solidad DeCosta, Edward Foster, David Holler, Jaime Robles, and Jen Scappettone ** We hope to see you there-- (And don't forget upcoming Marathon readings on July 16 and August 27 which will feature readers including Opal Palmer Adisa, Brandon Brown, Sean Cole, Amber DiPietra, Geoffrey Dyer, Thomas Fink, Jewelle Gomez, David Hadbawnik, Aaron Kiely, David Larsen, Laura Mullen, Bin Ramke, David Shapiro, Kish Song Bear, Cole Swensen, and Tyrone Williams.) Please forward this announcement to other interested folks! For more info, contact Donna de la Perriere & Joseph Lease at baypoetrymarathon@juno.com. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:44:44 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Rachel Blau DuPlessis / email address b/c Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Can somebody please back channel me the email address for Rachel Blau DuPlessis? Thank you so much, Stephen Vincent Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:43:44 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: mIEKAL aND Subject: Paper's 'wikitorial' trial halted Comments: To: Writing and Theory across Disciplines Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed (so much for electronic democracy and the "communal search for truth"....) Paper's 'wikitorial' trial halted http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4114312.stm Wikis encourage people to collaboratively create and re-create a webpage US newspaper, The Los Angeles Times, has temporarily ended its short-lived trial which gave readers the chance to edit its editorials on its website. The online version of the paper started its "wikitorial" experiment last week. It was meant to give readers a "voice". It was suspended after it was bombarded with inappropriate material. But the paper said it might try the idea again. Wikis, from the Hawaiian "wiki wiki" meaning "quick", let people collectively change or add to webpages. They have spawned collectively written encyclopedias, cookbooks and other publications. In a statement, The LA Times said the wikitorial would stay offline while it looked at what happened and how to prevent it from happening again. It said: "We thank the thousands of people who logged onto the Wikitorial in the right spirit." 'Bold experiment' The plan for its editorial wiki was to explore a new form of opinion journalism, but the editors admitted it could end up as "an embarrassment". The idea, which commentators have called "bold", was the brainchild of Michael Newman, deputy editor of the editorial page. Wikipedia has been running since 2001 and is in several languages In Friday's edition, the paper said, in theory, a wikitorial would be "a constantly evolving collaboration among readers in a communal search for truth." The editors planned to have the original published piece sit alongside the finished, collectively re-edited version. Almost 1,000 people registered to take part in re-writing the paper's editorial, War and Consequences, on Friday. Participants added internet links to various words in the editorial, while others proposed alternative views on the subject. One split the editorial in half, which was welcomed by the editors. But they decided to end the trial early on Sunday after explicit photos were posted to the page. Monitoring editors struggled to keep up with the influx of material that overwhelmed the site. The unusual experiment was overseen by editors, as well as Wikipedia founder Jim Wales. Wikis could be brought back to the website with a limited group of contributors or with a Times employee reviewing changes before they could be displayed, said the paper. Matter of trust The BBC's H2G2 website - Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy - was put together in a similar fashion to wikis. It is written, edited and checked by ordinary web users. Another successful example of a wiki is Wikipedia, which was started in 2001. It is a multi-lingual encyclopedia to which anyone can edit or post entries. It currently contains about 602,900 articles on anything from silicon chips to kittens. Wikis use open source software to collaboratively write and re-write what others have published. Much of the idea relies on trust and small groups of informal editors who oversee edited entries to ensure accuracy and relevance. Like weblogs, wikis have started to become popular online as people find new ways to create and experiment with reader-generated content. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:52:52 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: amy king Subject: Reading on Wednesday (tomorrow) @ Area 405 Gallery – Baltimore, MD In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Poetry & Performance - Wed., June 22nd @ 7 p.m. Reb Livingston, Amy King, Kevin Thurston & Lauren Bender Area 405 Gallery Station North Arts and Entertainment District 405 East Oliver Street http://www.area405.com/aboutGallery.htm The industrial, working-class neighborhood that constitutes the Station North Arts and Entertainment District is located north and east of Baltimore's Penn Station. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:23:08 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: mIEKAL aND Subject: "Couch Potato" gives Real Potatoes a Bad Name Comments: To: Writing and Theory across Disciplines , spidertangle@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed "Couch Potato" gives Real Potatoes a Bad Name June 21, 2005 1:11 p.m. EST Christina Ficara - All Headline News Staff Reporter London, England (AHN) - A group of British potato farmers are waging=20 war on the world's slackers and their coined title, "couch potato." The farmers claim the term's position in the dictionary inadvertantly=20 gives potatoes a=A0bad name. So, thirty farmers gathered outside the Parliament in London picketing=20= in protest.=A0 A separate group took their complaint directly to the=20 office of the Oxford English Dictionary. The British Potato Council says the phrase makes the vegetable seem=20 unhealthy - and even suggest=A0an alternative term,=A0"couch slouch." But, John Simpson, chief editor of the Oxford English=20 Dictionary,=A0reportedly says,=A0"couch potato" is in the dictionary to=20= stay.= ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:59:26 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: POV: CFUV interview from 16 may 2003 with Lawrence Ytzhak Braithwaite pt 1 download realtime MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit with respects to dodie bellamy one the great true essayist http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2005/06/42117.php CFUV interview with Lawrence Ytzhak Braithwaite pt 1 download in realtime Max Sloan has a conversation author Lawrence ytzhak Braithwaite on witchhunts, gangs, terrorist, gentrifcation, crack and fear culture on Sad and Beautiful World/ fri 16 may 2003 Max Sloan has a conversation author Lawrence ytzhak Braithwaite on witchhunts, gangs, terrorist, gentrifcation, crack and fear culture conducted on fri 16 may 2003 19:55hrs download pt 1 Sad and Beautiful World/Anaphora Friday 8:00pm - 9:00pm Producer(s): Pete Cressey, Max Sloan/Stefan & Casey See also: http://cfuv.uvic.ca Other Downloads: Hurricane Angel "luckily, i was half cat": http://omnipresentrecords.com/ishaq/?media_id=8 and http://bc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/1886/index.php ___ Stay Strong\ \ "Be a friend to the oppressed and an enemy to the oppressor" \ --Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib (as)\ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html \ http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_comments/766_0_15_0_C/ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/ \ \ } ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:09:29 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: William A Sylvester Subject: Kimmelman's SOMEHOW Track 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The 45 poems in Burt Kimmelman's SOMEHOW [Marsh Hawk Press 2005] belong together and have a beautiful underlying coherence, a sense of what one sees and hears, an awareness of perception as part of the song, or as it emerges in his poem "The Valentine's Day" "song's wary small loveliness." The sun fills up the street, the trees and the thick air, fat and fresh with the good. All the birds are coming to the blood of Spring, the sacrifice cut days in sand. Warm birds isn the withering light, bland hollow in the heart, stone, pride and food on the harrowing wing. Find bow, brood agon done, penance paid in Winter's hand. All music in our heart's sand, sun's though heaving verges of old madcness, hunt dearness, song's wary small loveliness the slackened foot, eye's nearness; light, our shunt- ing out heart's hunger, our variedness. Sure touch of hand, bow in gladness brought I sensed the rhythms of the poem better after reading it a second time,but this time after hearing the epigraphs from Chaucer and Zukofsky. The epigraphs are subtle choices, and deserve a track of their own. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:32:19 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: William A Sylvester Subject: Chaucer and Zukofsky MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Here are the epigraphs from Chaucer and Zukofsky for Kimmelman's "The Valentine's Day." They sunge "Blessed be Seynt Valentyn! For on this day I ches you to be myn Withoute repentyne, myn herte sweete!" And wherewithal here bekes gonne mete Take care, song that what stars' imprint you mirror Grazes their tears; draw speech from their nature or Love in you--faced to your outer stars--purer Gold than tongues make without feeling Art new, hurt old: revealing The slacked bow as the stinging Animal dies, thread gold stringing The fingerboard pressed to my honor (Kimmelman interweaves with Zukofsky..the slackened bow...the slackened foot...fingerboard... sure touch of hand, bow in gladness bought..} ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 06:15:30 -0400 Reply-To: pmetres@jcu.edu Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Philip Metres Subject: I want your stories of Vietnam-era poetry in action MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, I'm putting some last touches on a book-manuscript entitled "Behind the Lines: War Resistance Poetry in the U.S.," and re-working a chapter proposing a reexamination of the "archive" of war resistance and poetry, opening up our consideration of poetry to a wider deployment of language as symbolic action--symbolic actions such as the burning of draft files by the Catonsville Nine, poetry events such as readings against the war, "levitating pentagons," by Ed Sanders and the like, the "aum's" by Ginsberg during the Dem convention in 1968. What I'm looking for are any anecdotes or full blown stories from you about events you attended where poetry (in this broad definition, language as symbolic action, or action as symbolic language) did something, made a happening, etc. For example, I recall reading somewhere how Jackson Mac Low's simple reading of the names of the war purveyors at a rally caused a near riot. I know that, in general, there may be a feeling that this stuff was excessive, foolish, silly, ineffectual, prankish, etc. That's okay by me. Looking forward to your contribution. If it's good, I'll certainly find a way of including it and thanking you in the book. You can email me offline at pmetres@jcu.edu or if you think it's appropriate to put on line, go for it. Peace, Philip Metres Assistant Professor Department of English John Carroll University 20700 N. Park Blvd University Heights, OH 44118 (216) 397-4528 (work) http://www.philipmetres.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:26:42 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Shankar, Ravi (English)" Subject: Anyone have Tsering Wangmo Dhompa's contact? Please BC- MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, Ravi=20 ***************=20 Ravi Shankar=20 Poet-in-Residence=20 Assistant Professor=20 CCSU - English Dept.=20 860-832-2766=20 shankarr@ccsu.edu=20 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:08:49 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Nick Piombino Subject: What's new on ::fait accompli::? Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit ::fait accompli:: is http://nickpiombino.blogspot.com/ New poem on the *as-is* collaborative blog: The Best of 2005 scroll down for: notes on Henry Hills' avant-garde film *Emma's Dilemma* starring Emma Bernstein, Susan Bee Bernstein, Charles Bernstein, Richard Foreman, Tony Oursler, Carolee Schneeman Ken Jacobs, Kenny G and many others: an 87 minute film shown recently at Anthology Film Archives Shakin' and Bakin' in the comments boxes Jonathan Mayhew, Jordan Davis, Tim Yu and others discuss/debate poetry reviews namely: should there by a blogged poetry review of record? The book meme: a blogland questionnaire- Gary Sullivan, Nada Gordon, Alli Warren and others respond ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:11:07 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Burt Kimmelman Subject: Writers Needed for Encyclopedia of American Poetry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The Greenwood Encyclopedia of American Poetry is in its final stages and > the following early entries remain uncovered. The deadline for these > entries (800-1000 words each, except for the Lanier, a medium entry of > 2000 > words) is July 15, 2005. > > Elizabeth Allen Akers > Trumbull Stickney > Benjamin Coleman > Rowland Rugely > Daniel Russell > Henricus Selyns > Thomas Holley Chivers > > Sidney Lanier - 2000 words > > If you are able to contribute--or if you know someone who may be > interested--please contact me as soon as possible. > > Thanks, > > Mary Balkun Dept of English Seton Hall University South Orange, NJ 07079 balkunm@shu.edu > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:44:25 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: Re: Writers Needed for Encyclopedia of American Poetry Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 I'll gladly contribute to the Encyclopedia, I don't see my name there so th= is would be an excellent opportunity to make myself known to a wider audien= ce. Thanks, Burt, for giving me hope. Christophe Casamassima ----- Original Message ----- From: "Burt Kimmelman" To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Writers Needed for Encyclopedia of American Poetry Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:11:07 -0400 >=20 > > The Greenwood Encyclopedia of American Poetry is in its final stages and > > the following early entries remain uncovered. The deadline for these > > entries (800-1000 words each, except for the Lanier, a medium entry of > > 2000 > > words) is July 15, 2005. > > > > Elizabeth Allen Akers > > Trumbull Stickney > > Benjamin Coleman > > Rowland Rugely > > Daniel Russell > > Henricus Selyns > > Thomas Holley Chivers > > > > Sidney Lanier - 2000 words > > > > If you are able to contribute--or if you know someone who may be > > interested--please contact me as soon as possible. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mary Balkun > Dept of English > Seton Hall University > South Orange, NJ 07079 > balkunm@shu.edu > > www.towson.edu/~cacasama/furniture/poae baltimorereads.blogspot.com zillionpoems.blogspot.com --=20 _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for just= US$9.95 per year! Powered By Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:28:14 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Burt Kimmelman Subject: Writers Needed for Encyclopedia of American Poetry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I furnished the wrong email address to reach Mary Balkun (please see the message below, where I'll correct the address). The correct address is balkunma@shu.edu. >> The Greenwood Encyclopedia of American Poetry is in its final stages and >> the following early entries remain uncovered. The deadline for these >> entries (800-1000 words each, except for the Lanier, a medium entry of >> 2000 >> words) is July 15, 2005. >> >> Elizabeth Allen Akers >> Trumbull Stickney >> Benjamin Coleman >> Rowland Rugely >> Daniel Russell >> Henricus Selyns >> Thomas Holley Chivers >> >> Sidney Lanier - 2000 words >> >> If you are able to contribute--or if you know someone who may be >> interested--please contact me as soon as possible. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Mary Balkun > Dept of English > Seton Hall University > South Orange, NJ 07079 > balkunma@shu.edu >> > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:04:07 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinksy Subject: Re: Writers Needed for Encyclopedia of American Poetry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit as chris pointed out out i'm sure there'll be lots of holes in this project early entries aside theres' dr n myself a host of over 50 others in the lesser known catagories dan propper jack micheline oh what a futile e this be ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:09:38 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinksy Subject: Fw: Musicians' Poetry at Neues Kabarett, 6.24 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Neues Kabarett Music Series Presents An Evening of Musicians’ Poetry Friday, June 24 9 pm The Neues Kabarett Music Series will present a special evening featuring some of the free/avant jazz community’s musicians who also write great poetry. The event will feature readings by Roy Campbell Jr., Daniel Carter, Matt Lavelle, Ras Moshe, Matana Roberts, Warren Smith, Steve Swell and others to be announced. The readings will be accompanied by music provided by the evening’s contributing musician/poets. $10 admission @ The Brecht Forum 451 West Street (between Bank & Bethune) A/C/E/L or 1/2/3/9 to 14th Street; PATH to Christopher Street www.brechtforum.org - 212-242-4201 Neues Kabarett’s 2005 season is made possible by the New York State Council on the Arts, through the Fund for Creative Communities of the Lower Manhattan Cultural Council. ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:33:24 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Brenda Coultas Subject: June 28th Chicago Reading MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, Marcella Durand asked me to forward this to the list. Brenda Coultas =A0 If you're in Chicago please come to this poetry reading & discussion,=A0whic= h=20 is part of=A0the=A0Adler Planetarium's=A0 Inspiration and Astronomical Pheno= mena=20 Conference. Also, some of the participating poets will be reading around the= =20 Chicago area; check out http://chicagopostmodernpoetry.com/=A0for more info. =A0 Poetry Reading & Discussion: The Apparent Orbits Tuesday, June 28, 12:00 pm Poets: Kimberly Lyons, Marcella Durand, Kristin Prevallet, Chuck Stebelton,=20 Richard O'Russa,=A0and maybe Will Alexander.=A0 Tickets: Museum admission plus $6.00 This diverse group of poets will perfor= m=20 their work and discuss how poetry can be a way to explore the apparent=20 incomprehensibility of current astronomical discoveries, acting as a bridge=20= between=20 human and cosmos.=20 The Adler Planetarium & Astronomy Museum is located at 1300 South Lake Shore= =20 Drive in Chicago. for more information, visit:=20 http://www.adlerplanetarium.org/INSAPV/public_events.shtml=A0or e-mail Marce= lla Durand at marcelladurand@sprynet.com =A0 =A0 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:37:06 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: PUB: call for submissions: "half-jewish" anthology MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>PUB: call for submissions: "half-jewish" anthology ============================================== Call for submissions: Seeking brilliant prose about (or relating to) the subject of "growing up half-Jewish". We are looking for poets, fiction-writers, and creative essayists who-- raised in an interfaith-family-- have a story to tell. Our writers represent a huge breadth of diverse experiences, from observant Jews to atheists to Buddhists, united by their experience of growing up HALF... for: HALF/LIFE: growing up Jew-ISH Editor, Laurel Snyder Soft Skull Press Spring, 2006 Length is unimportant, and all styles are welcome, but we are only accepting writing of the highest quality!!! Deadline is July 15 for initial queries. Please query to Jew-ish@hotmail.com Include a brief bio, a pitch, and writing sample ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Be a friend to the oppressed and an enemy to the oppressor" --Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib (as)\ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html \ http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_comments/766_0_15_0_C/ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:40:32 -0700 Reply-To: ishaq1823@telus.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: INFO: london--back to black - poets, mc's, vocalists and storytellers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >>INFO: london--back to black - poets, mc's, vocalists and storytellers ============================================================ BACK TO BLACK July 14th, 7pm and August 18th... Café/Bar, The Whitechapel, 80-82 Whitechapel High St, London, E1 7QX FREE --- An Apples & Snakes event. BACK TO BLACK is a major international exhibition that explores the work and influence of black artists working in America, Britain and Jamaica in the 1960s and 70s. Tracing the cultural impact of the black arts movement through the painting, sculpture, photography, graphics and film that emerged during the two decades. The exhibition explores seven major themes including the ghetto; black popular culture; and politics. To tie in with the BACK TO BLACK theme, Apples & Snakes have programmed a series of FREE events, bringing in the scene’s hottest MC’s, poets and vocalists live to the gallery. On the 14th of July, MC’s rip the stage up with more words-per-minute than you can count featuring Malachi, Andy Craven-Griffiths and Yamboy & Last Mango in Paris, hosted by Jason Grant. To end the season, on the 18th of August, a selection of our finest spoken-word artists, David J, Jay Bernard and Tuup get Back to Black, hosted by Angie Bual. Poets riding on hip-hop rhythms, and rappers dropping poetical lyrics - we’ve got them all here, so get on down to the Whitechapel. TRANSPORT LINKS: Whitechapel Tube INFO: 020 7522 7888 http://www.whitechapel.org http://www.applesandsnakes.org ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Be a friend to the oppressed and an enemy to the oppressor" --Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib (as)\ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html] \ http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_comments/766_0_15_0_C/ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrD3o.bPbWeJ.aXNoYXEx Or send an email to: e-drum-unsubscribe@topica.com For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=TEXFOOTER --^^--------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:54:49 -0400 Reply-To: az421@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Rob McLennan Subject: query Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hey i need some new poetry books & chapbooks to review. please send things to rob mclennan, 858 Somerset St W, main floor, Ottawa Ontario Canada K1R 6R7 for potential review on www.robmclennan.blogspot.com or in one of various other web or print places. anywayz. its hot in the city. fukkin hot. rob -- poet/editor/pub. ... ed. STANZAS mag & side/lines: a new canadian poetics (Insomniac)...pub., above/ground press ...coord.,SPAN-O + ottawa small press fair ...9th coll'n - what's left (Talon) ...c/o RR#1 Maxville ON K0C 1T0 www.track0.com/rob_mclennan * http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:04:59 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Vernon Frazer Subject: IMPROVISATIONS by Vernon Frazer is Now in Print MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Beneath the Underground Books is proud to announce the June 22, 2005 release of Vernon Frazer's IMPROVISATIONS. Frazer's innovative and critically acclaimed longpoem, sections of which previously appeared in book format, is available for the first time in its completed form. Vernon Frazer's relentless pursuit of truth is inspiring. Improvisations commands our attention. It is difficult to recognize a landmark work in a landscape of hype and craftsmanship, but Frazer's embrace and reconciliation of the conflicts between poetry and language result in a musical and visual harmony that other poets have long neglected or sought with less success. Improvisations is a work to learn from and to praise without hesitation. - Michael Rothenberg Through its sectional appearances Improvisations has consistently offered its readers a dizzying flight across textual geographies and social aporia. Now we can encounter and engage its full monumentality as a vast text whose verbal excess and vertiginous typographic variations mark a stunning moment in the history of gestural poetics. It is a true comment on what it is to not only live modernity but to actively engage it. - Steve McCaffery Improvisations will take its place in the modernist, postmodernist and alternative pantheon of masterpieces. Vernon Frazer presents us with a 'new physics' of poetic structure. It is not contingent upon any preconceptions of what poetry 'has been' or 'should be'. Its roots are far reaching and ubiquitously move rhizomically beneath the surface of the poetic page. It is there that Improvisations manifests its multi-dimensional, polyphonic, nonlocal music-of-the-spheres resonances, echoing down cerebral corridors and unfolding to the reader a synergistically limitless semantically rich poetic realm. - Ric Carfagna |'|'|' one-one rhythm intensity emergent language & new not form of bop prosody < the moments the heavy breathing dragging language where it won't speak but has to > this exciting brilliant igneous volcanism of insistent world glossolalia harnessed to < what the world said when the word spoke > you get my DRIFT "spot-time" Wittgenstein < about virtual language is about virtual particles < what the vacuum speaks > of this masterpiece: dipping in, constructs of solitons, shore-flecked language returning "all different" < did anyone write this < sure a machine DIDN'T "I am sure if language could speak, this is what it would say" > the _topography_ of language < Said of a word or mineral that solidified from molten or partly molten material, i.e. from magma; also, applied to processes leading to, related to, or resulting from the formation of such words. > shards of CONTINUUM language degree & incessant < you can get lost in The Big Sky < WHATEVER YOU do READ THIS BOOK > & knot form - Alan Sondheim ISBN 0-9745270-1-7 704 pages $45.00 Available from Baker and Taylor Books, The Book House, Inc, and your favorite online bookseller. NOTE: Barnes aned Noble online is offering a special discount price. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:42:33 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: amy king Subject: Come if you can, come if you can't -- TONIGHT --> In-Reply-To: <20050622175449.CE44624726@smeagol.ncf.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit One more time, what the heck: Poetry & Performance - Wed., June 22nd @ 7 p.m. Reb Livingston, Amy King, Kevin Thurston & Lauren Bender Area 405 Gallery Station North Arts and Entertainment District 405 East Oliver Street http://www.area405.com/aboutGallery.htm The industrial, working-class neighborhood that constitutes the Station North Arts and Entertainment District is located north and east of Baltimore's Penn Station. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:18:18 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mary Jo Malo Subject: Vernon Frazer's IMPROVISATIONS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CONGRATULATIONS ! ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:20:21 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: Re: PUB: call for submissions: "half-jewish" anthology Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Half-Jewish. My blood is purely, well, no, it isn't. Half-Jewish, we're tal= king about the religion, Judaism, right? OR is it the attitude? Culture? I'= m not sure. But being Roman Catholic - that means my religion has its roots in Judaism = - means I have a pretty good shot at getting into this anthology. Well, one= of the criteria have been met. Now, for my abilities as a writer or writin= g... Christophe Casamassima "Half&Half" --=20 _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for just= US$9.95 per year! Powered By Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:58:24 +0900 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jesse Glass Subject: Usoku MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To describe, accurately, the proliferation of "kus" cranked out by Bob Gru-ku-machine-mann, and now (heaven help us!) "visual haiku" invented by Scott Helms and displayed on Geof Huth's site--I offer the word Usoku from the Japanese Uso--meaning false, and ku--line or inscription. Usoku, because of course none of these forms of writing or art have anything to do with haiku. Jess ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:58:12 +0100 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Lawrence Upton Subject: Re: Usoku MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jesse I hesitate to disagree with you, because... - well, on past experience, = it is as well that we have not had nuclear weapons nor am I really in a mood to say much or in a position to say it for = long but this is excessive, don't you think? NOTHING to do with haiku? This is how things change, someone takes a word, an idea and sees it at = a different angle, perhaps technically a misapprehending angle, and = makes a new connection i imagine someone bilingual in Italian and English 500 years ago saying = These are ok poems, to Thomas Wyatt, but theyre not sonnets. Let me = explain. The sonnet, is an Italian form. And this anglicisation of the = substantive just won't do...zzzzzzz Did Scott Helms invent visual haiku? I thought I did. Seriously.=20 Actually, out of deference to the term haiku, which I do not have the = learning to fully understand, I call my semantic haiku 575s and thus = invented a visual version by analogy I suspect many have invented visual haiku. Havent got it in front of me = but Cobbing called a visual poem _sonnet_ maybe 30 years ago. He didnt bother calling it a visual sonnet, because he didnt bother much = with definitions; and of course there were people who were busy telling = him it wasnt a poem - he may well have called a poem a sonnet to wind = them up The visual haiku is (retrospectively of course) such an obvious idea - = sooner or later someone would do it, and it's likely to be happening and = happening again now, with access to some knowledge of haiku and half the = planet writing poetry I think to attach the word _false_ to it is out of order. Where's the = falsehood? If you are actually going to say something about poetry, then by all = means define terms and explain why your examples fit or don't fit them. = That's useful, or can be, because it too shows us new ways of thinking = about form and content. But to be including and excluding for the sake = of it - it would perhaps be better done in private NOTHING to do with haiku? Not conforming to the rules for sure; but = rules usually develop with the form. i.e. they get broken / ignored. Now = there are revised rules. What you call haiku is perhaps traditional = haiku or Japanese haiku - I heard an Indian woman, addressing my country = in general - "We took your language, made it our own, and now you can = have what I think is a better English, Indian English" Expostulation: You can't do that. Reply: I just did. As in Walt W contradicting himself. I'd have thought it's the American = way. All slopes are slippery at some time. Sooner or later, poetry, having a = visual aspect once recorded, would admit visual poetry; & if you can = have a visual poem then you can have a visual haiku. Obviously It isn't a falsehood but another way of looking at the underlying ideas = as one has received interpreted and understood them. Mistales occur, of = course. Incorporating mistakes is how we operate, why our accents differ = etc E VO LU TION though there may well be some single celled organisms who haven't been = out since oxygen began to proliferate just waiting a chance to tell all = the multi-cellular folk they have it deeply wrong and dont understand = life forms at all Individual examples of any innovation will be seen to be better or worse = than each other when and if they can be compared; but rejecting the idea = is narrowing of possibilities; and, I am pleased to say, the rejection = will be ignored at large because it is not so much a false line, as an = unrewarding line all best L -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Glass To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Date: Thursday, June 23, 2005 5:58 AM Subject: Usoku To describe, accurately, the proliferation of "kus" cranked out by Bob Gru-ku-machine-mann, and now (heaven help us!) "visual haiku" invented by Scott Helms and displayed on Geof Huth's site--I offer the word Usoku from the Japanese Uso--meaning false, and ku--line or = inscription. Usoku, because of course none of these forms of writing or art have anything to do with haiku. Jess ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:25:23 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: UbuWeb Subject: Kenneth Goldsmith / Alan Licht / James Siena : Performance + Book Party Comments: To: ubuweb@yahoogroups.com, lowercase-sound@yahoogroups.com, soundpoetry@yahoogroups.com, silence@Virginia.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit BOOK PARTY AND PERFORMANCE On SATURDAY, JUNE 25, at 5:30 pm, DIDYMUS PRESS INVITES YOU TO A BOOK PARTY FOR "SPRING" BY WFMU dj and conceptual poet, KENNETH GOLDSMITH, (with prints by JAMES SIENA), at 5:30 pm at the GEOFFREY YOUNG GALLERY, 40 RAILROAD ST., GREAT BARRINGTON, followed by a reading from the book by Mr. Goldsmith at 6:30 at the Bandstand, (behind town hall), with accompaniment by acclaimed avant-garde guitarist Alan Licht. GEOFFREY YOUNG GALLERY 40 RAILROAD STREET, 2nd floor GREAT BARRINGTON, MA 01230 413 528-6210 528-2552 ----- PRESS RELEASE Didymus Press celebrates the publication of its latest book, SPRING, a prose work by Kenneth Goldsmith accompanied by wood engravings by James Siena, with a reception at the Geoffrey Young Gallery, 40 Railroad Street in Great Barrington, Massachusetts on Saturday, June 25 at 5:30 pm. The reception will be followed by a reading and performance by Mr. Goldsmith and guitarist Alan Licht in the Great Barrington bandstand at 6:30. Both events are free and open to the public. Kenneth Goldsmith's writing has been called some of the most "exhaustive and beautiful collage work yet produced in poetry" by Publishers' Weekly. The author of seven books of poetry, founding editor of the online archive UbuWeb (ubu.com), and the editor of I'll Be Your Mirror: The Selected Andy Warhol Interviews, Goldsmith is also the host of a weekly radio show on New York City's WFMU. He teaches writing at the University of Pennsylvania, where he is senior editor of PennSound, an online poetry archive. James Siena is a nationally-known artist whose paintings and prints have been featured in numerous one-person and group shows, including the 2004 Whitney Biennial. He will have a solo exhibition of paintings at the Pace Gallery in New York in the fall. A New York based musician and writer, Alan Licht has released four albums of pieces for solo and multiple guitars, the latest being A New York Minute (XI). He's recorded and performed as an improvisor with: Rashied Ali, Jim O'Rourke, Lee Ranaldo, Christian Marclay, Thurston Moore, Arto Lindsay, John Zorn, Zeena Parkins, Ikue Mori, Derek Bailey, Dean Roberts, Charles Curtis, Ulrich Krieger, Loren Mazzacane Connors, Nihilist Spasm Band, Oren Ambarchi, Ken Vandermark, Peter Brotzmann, Keith Rowe, Fred Lonberg-Holm, William Hooker, Michael Snow, Keiji Haino, DJ Olive, Rudolph Grey, Fennesz, DJ Spooky. A founding member of the bands Love Child & Run On, he's also performed with Tom Verlaine, Brokeback, Papa M, the Styrenes, Royal Trux & Plush. Also performed Phill Niblock's work regularly. Sound installations include "Today I Am A Fountain Pen", Studio Five Beekman, NYC (1998), "Country Geese, City Geese" and "Twilight of the Idols" Diapason, NYC (2003) and "The Downsizing of Don Dokken", part of 'Constrictions' exhibition at Pierogi 2000, Brooklyn (1996). A frequent contributor to the WIRE, Modern Painters, Time Out NY, Premiere, Film Comment, his first book, An Emotional Memoir of Martha Quinn, was published by Drag City Press in 2001. Didymus Press is a private press located in Salisbury, Connecticut and New York City specializing in limited edition books of poetry with original prints. SPRING is the Press's third publication. For more information, contact Geoffrey Young, 413 528 6210. UbuWeb http://ubu.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:52:40 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Irving Weiss Subject: Re: Usoku In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT One way of doing haiku to dispel the fog of its everywhereness is to do it in: SYLLOGAIKU All men are mortal Socrates and his young men Where have they all gone Irving Weiss www.irvingweiss.net On 6/23/05 12:58 AM, "Jesse Glass" wrote: > To describe, accurately, the proliferation of "kus" cranked out by Bob > Gru-ku-machine-mann, and now (heaven help us!) "visual haiku" invented > by Scott Helms and displayed on Geof Huth's site--I offer the word > Usoku from the Japanese Uso--meaning false, and ku--line or inscription. > Usoku, because of course none of these forms of writing or art have > anything to do with haiku. Jess ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:03:10 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: William A Sylvester Subject: KImmelman & Johnson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've suggested that Kimmelman in his book SOMEHOW the poem "The Valentine's Day" responds to epigraphs from Chaucer and Zukofsky, but in another poem, "Late June" an epigraph from Ronald Johnson seems to become an integral part of the poem itself. In fact one can weld the two lines of the epigraph to the opening of the poem and get a sensibly correct reading. The poem would then open as Wave of warblers weaving chirp chirp to message the day's signals, each warble, trill and chirp, on again, off again, on again, again-- The poem moves from observation to process: Stanza 2 ends: creatures cease their back and forth Stanza 3 day, another, another. (The poem seems to consistently move toward process, and so I wish he had left off the period.) LATE JUNE wave of warbles weaving chirp to chirp message --Ronald Johnson The day's signals, each warble, trill and chirp, on again, off again, on again, again-- once the red sun has seated itself below the tree top creatures cease their back and forth a sudden heat gone, slight breeze light rendering darkness--one day another, another. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:41:35 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinksy Subject: Re: Usoku MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit sorry bro that's just 5-7-5 babble and far from a haiku ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:16:52 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Aaron Belz Subject: hegel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can someone tell me where Hegel said this? "The fundamental principle of Romantic art is the concentration of the soul upon itself." Backchannel if you like: Aaron@belz.net Thanks! Aaron ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:00:35 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Rumsfeld, Abe Lincoln & the poetry of quotation Comments: cc: "Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and poetics"@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU, POETRYETC@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit From today's Senate Hearing with Mr. Rumsfeld: "Perhaps referring to declining support for the war, Mr. Rumsfeld mentioned the dark days of the American revolution in 1776, and quoted President Lincoln, who told Americans during the Civil War in 1864: 'There may be mistakes made sometimes, and things done wrong, while the officers of the government do all they can to prevent mistakes. But I beg of you as citizens of this great republic, not to let your minds be carried off from the great work we have before us'." (NY Times, today on the web edition) Am I confused? Rumsfeld and Company imitating Honest Abe! I know Iraq is hemispherically south of Washington. But I don't think the Administration has ever previously given the impression that the United States went to war there because Iraq had succeeded from the Union (and/or implied that we were in a Civil War, other than maybe provoking one). Wow! What could be the similarities? Cotton and Oil? "Things are getting better all the time" or "I want to get out of this place" What will be the song, Mr. President? This is all getting very painful and bleak. Stephen V Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:08:37 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Catherine Daly Subject: LA: J. Ana Flores / WPP Reading on Sunday, June 26 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The always versatile, ever-surprising Women's Poetry Project members will read evocative and provocative new works on Sunday, June 26 at 5 p.m. at Skylight Books, 1818 North Vermont Avenue, Los Angeles, CA 90027. Featured readers are Julia Cole, Yvonne M. Estrada, Donna Frazier, J. Fuentes Flores, Dylan C. Gailey, Janice Gero, Brett Guitar Hofer, Cece Peri, Flavia Tamayo, Pat Viera, M. Gwin Wheatley, and published poet Terry Wolverton. This event is free. The members of the Women's Poetry Project, founded in 1992 by Terry Wolverton, are always challenging themselves and one another to explore new frontiers, whether in form, content, or style of presentation. The group has previously delighted audiences at venues including Barnsdall Park Night Readings, Espresso Mi Cultura, Beyond Baroque, and the Sunland-Tujunga Library Word of Mouth series. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:59:55 -0700 Reply-To: rsillima@yahoo.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ron Silliman Subject: Shelton Lea Comments: To: Brit Po MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bard of the back streets Jen Jewel Brown 24jun05 Shelton Lea Poet, publisher and fine-book dealer. Born Melbourne, August 25, 1946. Died Melbourne, May 13, aged 58. RAPSCALLION, big-hearted mentor and arguably Australia's finest romantic poet, Shelton Lea died peacefully at home in Clifton Hill, Melbourne, on Friday, May 13. He was renowned as the beautiful, charming, dope-smoking wag who was a close mate of Heide's Barrett Reid (poet and librarian) and Sweeney Reed (artist and gallery owner). He lived at Heide for years after John and Sunday Reed died, helping Reid put out Overland magazine. Last year Lea spoke eloquently on ABC television's Stateline about his experiences as a 16-year-old in Pentridge, helping in the campaign to keep children out of adult jails. Later that year, the Victorian Children and Young Persons (Age Jurisdiction) Act 2004 was passed, effectively extending the definition of child from 17 to 18 in several areas of the law. Lea lived life on a grand scale. Mystery surrounds the identity of his father, thought to have suffered a breakdown after serving in World War II. His mother came to Melbourne from Perth in 1946 to give birth to Shelton at the Haven, a home for unmarried mothers. The lively boy spent the first 15 months of his life there. One carer remembered him decades later as a delightful child, if a head-banger. He was adopted into the Lea family of Toorak, famous for its confectionery. At 12 he became "too close" to a chocolate factory worker, who was accordingly fired. Distraught, Shelton told his adoptive father "I fire you" and ran away from home, ending up in various homes for wayward youngsters. He met Aborigines for the first time and was made an honorary black. At 16, he ended up in Pentridge's notorious C Division, where he witnessed rape and murder. Time in Long Bay, Goulburn and Grafton jails followed. Lea became a skilled pickpocket and cat burglar. He penned love poems and letters for grateful inmates. For a time in the early 1960s he lived with gypsies on the roads of rural Australia. After being thrown out of Kings Cross for manufacturing LSD, he moved back to Melbourne where he met the Heide set through sculptor Joel Elenberg. In his 58 years Lea had children with three women. Nine books of his poetry have been published. He is known for his articulate, street-smart humour, his gentle love poetry and the mythic, visceral masculinity of his visions. In a country where artists are generally asked what their real job is, he took his poetic calling seriously. A popular reader, he approached performance with an almost Shakespearean bravura. He also published several other poets' books through his imprint Eaglemont Press and ran fine bookshops including, recently, De Havillands in Clifton Hill. His February diagnosis of Jack Dancer (as he liked to call his lung cancer) left him three months to live. He made the most of it, pushing through the release of his ninth book Nebuchadnezzar (through Black Pepper), while poems from it were accepted by The Age and The Australian. Nebuchadnezzar was launched by Dorothy Porter at the Rochester Castle Hotel in Fitzroy, eight days before the poet's death. The pub overflowed. Although he had thought he wouldn't have the breath, Lea decided on the night to make a final, moving reading of the title poem. In the voice (with permission) of Aboriginal identity Sonny Booth and dedicated to Booth and Lionel Rose, the work is inspired by the Arthur Boyd painting, Nebuchadnezzar Burning. Shelton Lea is survived by his partner Leith Woodgate, his children Kaye, Destiny, Danay and Zero, godson Ben, half and adopted siblings, and grandchildren, nieces and nephews. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:51:31 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Beverly Dahlen - A Reading Comments: cc: UK POETRY , "Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and poetics"@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU, POETRYETC@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Ron Silliman recently suggested in his blog that a Collected Beverly Dahlen is already long overdue - and I would agree. Today, Chris Murray, on her tex-files brought attention to a passage from "A Reading: 1 - 7", the first in a series of books call "A Reading" of which I published the first one at Momo's Press in 1985: the Ace is like a big heart blooming out there. and I could wish all my days to be bound each to each. by natural piety. whatever that is, she wrote these things are of nature. trees, rocks, flowers, a desert. have a desert, have an ocean. think of living down there, there would be other fish swimming around, strange plants growing. that too would be nature, let's not be too hasty to define it. there's a thin moving line. blurred edges. if it were there as sharply as Blake wanted who would get over the boundary in the middle of the night. they were living close to the border in northern Italy, 'we need some new genes' he said. he remembered the nor and thought I was Norwegian, someone from the north originally. someone, a Svenska-Suomalainen. all that was a foreign language, something she was learning. Navajo. o my horse. the corn of the east. somewhere over the rainbow. blue skies. it's shaping up and I wasn't even thinking about it. it grows. hard and soft, she wrote. hard buds, nipples of buds. hardening. I take you. his oleander. his skinny, the slight boy's brown body. 'the brown boy's slight body.' (In the non-virtual world, the above text is justified to the right margin!) Peter Gannick's "Pots & Poets" (Sp?), and Charles Alexander's Chax Press published the other two volumes of "A Reading". And Elizabeth Robinson's Press (name) will be publishing a new volume in about a year. I would seek out these books, as well. Beverly - one of the founders - with Frances Jaffer and Kathleen Frazer - of the journal How(ever) (sp?), is a contemporary of George Stanley, and definitely one of the central figures (tho many years quiet until recently) of the San Francisco poetry world. Among many, Beverly is one of those diamonds in the rough that will increasingly rise to fill a significant place on the late 20th century literary horizon. Like Niedecker she has kept correspondence with many of her significant peers and elders (Oppen, Duncan, Rachel Blau Duplessis, Stanley, among others), much of her literary life has been counter-careerist. I do still have copies of a Reading 1 - 7. For $12 I will be happy to provide any and all with a copy - postage and handling included. Send checks to me at: 3514 21st Street San Francisco CA 94114 If you are in the San Francisco Bay Area on August 20, I will be reading with Beverly at the Grand Street series in Oakland on that Sunday evening. Stephen V Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:41:14 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: charles alexander Subject: Re: Beverly Dahlen - A Reading In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Thanks, Steven I'm happy to match your offer and have the second book of Beverly Dahlen's A Reading, i.e. A Reading 8-10, which Chax published, available to anyone who sends $10 (and this will include shipping via "media mail" for domestic USA orders). Send orders and checks to Chax Press at 101 W. Sixth St., no. 6 Tucson, AZ 85701-1000 And if you visit the Chax web site you'll also find that we published the small volume, more recently, of Beverly Dahlen's A-Reading Spicer & 18 Sonnets, which is still available. If anyone wishes both of our Dahlen books together, make that check for $17, and we'll take care of the shipping charges (again, via "media mail"). Charles Alexander http://www.chax.org/ At 05:51 PM 6/23/2005, you wrote: >Ron Silliman recently suggested in his blog that a Collected Beverly Dahlen >is already long overdue - and I would agree. Today, Chris Murray, on her >tex-files brought attention to a passage from "A Reading: 1 - 7", the first >in a series of books call "A Reading" of which I published the first one at >Momo's Press in 1985: > >the Ace is like a big heart blooming out there. and I could wish all my days >to be bound each to each. by natural piety. whatever that is, she wrote >these things are of nature. trees, rocks, flowers, a desert. have a desert, >have an ocean. think of living down there, there would be other fish >swimming around, strange plants growing. that too would be nature, let's not >be too hasty to define it. there's a thin moving line. blurred edges. if it >were there as sharply as Blake wanted who would get over the boundary in the >middle of the night. they were living close to the border in northern Italy, >'we need some new genes' he said. he remembered the nor and thought I was >Norwegian, someone from the north originally. someone, a >Svenska-Suomalainen. >all that was a foreign language, something she was learning. Navajo. o my >horse. the corn of the east. somewhere over the rainbow. blue skies. it's >shaping up and I wasn't even thinking about it. it grows. hard and soft, she >wrote. hard buds, nipples of buds. hardening. I take you. his >oleander. his skinny, the slight boy's brown body. >'the brown boy's slight body.' > >(In the non-virtual world, the above text is justified to the right margin!) > > Peter Gannick's "Pots & Poets" (Sp?), and Charles Alexander's Chax Press >published the other two volumes of "A Reading". And Elizabeth Robinson's >Press (name) will be publishing a new volume in about a year. I would seek >out these books, as well. > >Beverly - one of the founders - with Frances Jaffer and Kathleen Frazer - of >the journal How(ever) (sp?), is a contemporary of George Stanley, and >definitely one of the central figures (tho many years quiet until recently) >of the San Francisco poetry world. Among many, Beverly is one of those >diamonds in the rough that will increasingly rise to fill a significant >place on the late 20th century literary horizon. Like Niedecker she has kept >correspondence with many of her significant peers and elders (Oppen, Duncan, >Rachel Blau Duplessis, Stanley, among others), much of her literary life has >been counter-careerist. > >I do still have copies of a Reading 1 - 7. For $12 I will be happy to >provide any and all with a copy - postage and handling included. Send checks >to me at: > >3514 21st Street >San Francisco CA 94114 > >If you are in the San Francisco Bay Area on August 20, I will be reading >with Beverly at the Grand Street series in Oakland on that Sunday evening. > >Stephen V >Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 01:25:08 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinksy Subject: Re: Beverly Dahlen - A Reading MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit which steven do you mean? ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:34:18 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: Corporate Medievalism and Manifesto on New Distribution Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 "We are moving towards a new Dark Ages. With the dissolution of corporate l= ife, we are moving into a medieval time space designed for ritual and cerem= onial. Cult movements will more and more become part of the cultural terrai= n." Anthony Braxton, as quoted in The Wire,February,2005 In a space so small as poetry and as large as poetry makes of it. To siphon: The explorative elements of any project (poetry being one) are s= lowly being lost to the ends of that project, that end which points to an i= ndividual claim. An individual 'reserve' as some may claim, as already instituted in its rul= es (culture of).=20 Ephemera: Lost (back catalogues, reading lists, past issues, dollar bins, d= iscount stores, KMart, WalMart, Amazon, EBay etc etc etc etc etc). Sell and reSell and forgetting, active, momentary, until. Until "the next big thing comes along" preEmptiveEphemera. Build a stockade of culture and count down the days. The explorative elements in any project are vastly negotiated by any subscr= iption to any institutional boundary setting. The explorative elements of any culture can be regained when the television= is turned off the newspaper = is folded the school sys= tems begin teaching again (ex Socrates) Develop a ritual without basi[c]s. Develop a ceremonial through accidence. Develop an occassion that lasts as long as it can be manifested in its expr= ess, not its concept, which is, like chess (to quote Braxton, again) bound = by simple rules but is not bound to enumeration. Without monetary compensation for the artist. The artist becomes a citizen = in a free transaction and trade of actions. Actions receive other actions and continue. Actions are made possible in th= e occassion of that action.=20 There must be two. There must always be two. One receives and two create. There must never be a third. With the introduction of a third the two are d= isqualified. The third gains just as much as the first and nothing is trade= d. Actions cannot continue when there is a monetary transaction. The two create and continue when it comes from the hands and enters another= 's hands.=20 There is distribution when there are hands.=20 There is business when there are hand-offs. Hands Off. Both literally and f= iguratively. christophe Casamassima --=20 _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for just= US$9.95 per year! Powered By Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:40:38 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kevin Marzahl Subject: Hegel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi Aaron, I can't place the quote, but I can recommend the "Introductory Lectures on Aesthetics" if you're also looking for context and/or similar utterances. The lectures (they run about 90pp in my Penguin paperback) culminate with a discussion of the "symbolic," "classical," and "romantic" types of art. Poetry figures prominently in the final pages: "As regards the third and most spiritual mode of representation of the romantic art-type, we must look for it in poetry." (95) "Poetry is the universal art of the mind which has become free in its own nature, and which is not tied to find its realization in external sensuous matter, but expatiates exclusively in the inner space and inner time of the ideas and feelings." (96) Kevin Marzahl http://transienceseventy.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:45:51 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: PO25centEM seeking subs for it's new volume, 2005 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 It seems that I've been receiving many submissions for the zine series this= year but of every single sub, EVERY SINGLE SUB, guess how many women have = contributed to the project? None. I'm sending out another call within the next few days, here it is by the wa= y, for submissions to the zine project: The purpose of the project is to promote the free distribution (in local ci= ties and in public spaces) of free poetry. And everyone is invited to submi= t. The zines are roughly 4.25 inches (width) and 5.25 inches (height). We seek= submissions of 8 to 16 pages of text that fit nicely in a 4 inch by 5 inch= format. 120 or so zines are made, 60 being freely distributed, 10 going to= the contributor, and 50 bound together every year (volume one, 2004, consi= sted of 31 zines) and sold in order to raise money to make next year's volu= me. Please send electronically to this address: furniture_press@graffiti.net thanks! Christophe Casamassima ----- Original Message ----- From: "furniture_ press" To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: Corporate Medievalism and Manifesto on New Distribution Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:34:18 -0500 >=20 > "We are moving towards a new Dark Ages. With the dissolution of corporate= life, we are moving=20 > into a medieval time space designed for ritual and ceremonial. Cult movem= ents will more and more=20 > become part of the cultural terrain." >=20 > Anthony Braxton, as quoted in The Wire,February,2005 >=20 > In a space so small as poetry and as large as poetry makes of it. >=20 > To siphon: The explorative elements of any project (poetry being one) are= slowly being lost to=20 > the ends of that project, that end which points to an individual claim. >=20 > An individual 'reserve' as some may claim, as already instituted in its r= ules (culture of). >=20 > Ephemera: Lost (back catalogues, reading lists, past issues, dollar bins,= discount stores,=20 > KMart, WalMart, Amazon, EBay etc etc etc etc etc). >=20 > Sell and reSell and forgetting, active, momentary, until. >=20 > Until "the next big thing comes along" preEmptiveEphemera. >=20 > Build a stockade of culture and count down the days. >=20 > The explorative elements in any project are vastly negotiated by any subs= cription to any=20 > institutional boundary setting. >=20 > The explorative elements of any culture can be regained when the televisi= on is turned off > the newspap= er is folded > the school = systems begin teaching=20 > again (ex Socrates) >=20 > Develop a ritual without basi[c]s. >=20 > Develop a ceremonial through accidence. >=20 > Develop an occassion that lasts as long as it can be manifested in its ex= press, not its concept,=20 > which is, like chess (to quote Braxton, again) bound by simple rules but = is not bound to=20 > enumeration. >=20 > Without monetary compensation for the artist. The artist becomes a citize= n in a free transaction=20 > and trade of actions. >=20 > Actions receive other actions and continue. Actions are made possible in = the occassion of that=20 > action. >=20 > There must be two. There must always be two. One receives and two create. >=20 > There must never be a third. With the introduction of a third the two are= disqualified. The=20 > third gains just as much as the first and nothing is traded. Actions cann= ot continue when there=20 > is a monetary transaction. >=20 > The two create and continue when it comes from the hands and enters anoth= er's hands. >=20 > There is distribution when there are hands. >=20 > There is business when there are hand-offs. Hands Off. Both literally and= figuratively. >=20 >=20 > christophe Casamassima >=20 > -- > _______________________________________________ > Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net > Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for ju= st US$9.95 per year! >=20 >=20 > Powered By Outblaze www.towson.edu/~cacasama/furniture/poae baltimorereads.blogspot.com zillionpoems.blogspot.com --=20 _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for just= US$9.95 per year! Powered By Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:26:48 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Issue of Withdrawing from Iraq Comments: cc: "Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and poetics"@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU, POETRYETC@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit It ain't poetry but A progressive, well reasoned piece by Eric Gustafson on the situation in Iraq and why an immediate withdrawal will even create more havoc, and what has to be done to insure the USA withdrawal. http://www.epic-usa.org/Default.aspx?tabid=1040 Stephen V Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:27:24 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Halvard Johnson Subject: Hamilton Stone Review, Issue 6, Summer 2005, Now Online! Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hamilton Stone Review, Issue 6, Summer 2005, Now Online! Featuring fiction by Pat MacEnulty, Ramsey Wilkens, and Masha Zager and poetry by Gene Frumkin, Amy King, Kenneth Pobo, Joseph Somoza, David Hopes, Stephen Vincent, Bob Marcacci, Harriet Zinnes, Kerry O'Keefe, Gregory Vincent St. Thomasino, Eileen Tabios, Frederick Pollack, and David Howard. http://www.hamiltonstone.org/hsr6.html Submissions to the Hamilton Stone Review At this time, the Hamilton Stone Review is not open to unsolicited fiction submissions, but will be taking unsolicited poetry submissions until Sept. 15, 2005, for Issue #7, which will be out in October 2005. Poetry submissions should go directly to Halvard Johnson at halvard@earthlink.net. PLEASE SEND THIS ALONG TO OTHERS ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:21:36 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maria Damon Subject: Re: Shelton Lea Comments: To: rsillima@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <20050623225955.10398.qmail@web51110.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" wow a real villon/corso type only more so/more so. At 3:59 PM -0700 6/23/05, Ron Silliman wrote: >Bard of the back streets >Jen Jewel Brown >24jun05 > >Shelton Lea >Poet, publisher and fine-book dealer. >Born Melbourne, August 25, 1946. >Died Melbourne, May 13, aged 58. > >RAPSCALLION, big-hearted mentor and arguably Australia's finest >romantic poet, Shelton Lea died peacefully at home in Clifton Hill, >Melbourne, on Friday, May 13. He was renowned as the beautiful, >charming, dope-smoking wag who was a close mate of Heide's Barrett >Reid (poet and librarian) and Sweeney Reed (artist and gallery >owner). He lived at Heide for years after John and Sunday Reed died, >helping Reid put out Overland magazine. > >Last year Lea spoke eloquently on ABC television's Stateline about >his experiences as a 16-year-old in Pentridge, helping in the >campaign to keep children out of adult jails. Later that year, the >Victorian Children and Young Persons (Age Jurisdiction) Act 2004 was >passed, effectively extending the definition of child from 17 to 18 >in several areas of the law. > >Lea lived life on a grand scale. Mystery surrounds the identity of >his father, thought to have suffered a breakdown after serving in >World War II. His mother came to Melbourne from Perth in 1946 to give >birth to Shelton at the Haven, a home for unmarried mothers. The >lively boy spent the first 15 months of his life there. One carer >remembered him decades later as a delightful child, if a head-banger. > >He was adopted into the Lea family of Toorak, famous for its >confectionery. At 12 he became "too close" to a chocolate factory >worker, who was accordingly fired. Distraught, Shelton told his >adoptive father "I fire you" and ran away from home, ending up in >various homes for wayward youngsters. He met Aborigines for the first >time and was made an honorary black. At 16, he ended up in >Pentridge's notorious C Division, where he witnessed rape and murder. > >Time in Long Bay, Goulburn and Grafton jails followed. Lea became a >skilled pickpocket and cat burglar. He penned love poems and letters >for grateful inmates. For a time in the early 1960s he lived with >gypsies on the roads of rural Australia. After being thrown out of >Kings Cross for manufacturing LSD, he moved back to Melbourne where >he met the Heide set through sculptor Joel Elenberg. > >In his 58 years Lea had children with three women. Nine books of his >poetry have been published. He is known for his articulate, >street-smart humour, his gentle love poetry and the mythic, visceral >masculinity of his visions. In a country where artists are generally >asked what their real job is, he took his poetic calling seriously. A >popular reader, he approached performance with an almost >Shakespearean bravura. He also published several other poets' books >through his imprint Eaglemont Press and ran fine bookshops including, >recently, De Havillands in Clifton Hill. > >His February diagnosis of Jack Dancer (as he liked to call his lung >cancer) left him three months to live. He made the most of it, >pushing through the release of his ninth book Nebuchadnezzar (through >Black Pepper), while poems from it were accepted by The Age and The >Australian. > >Nebuchadnezzar was launched by Dorothy Porter at the Rochester Castle >Hotel in Fitzroy, eight days before the poet's death. The pub >overflowed. Although he had thought he wouldn't have the breath, Lea >decided on the night to make a final, moving reading of the title >poem. In the voice (with permission) of Aboriginal identity Sonny >Booth and dedicated to Booth and Lionel Rose, the work is inspired by >the Arthur Boyd painting, Nebuchadnezzar Burning. > >Shelton Lea is survived by his partner Leith Woodgate, his children >Kaye, Destiny, Danay and Zero, godson Ben, half and adopted siblings, >and grandchildren, nieces and nephews. -- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:33:07 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jane Sprague Subject: THIS SUNDAY: Jonathan Skinner reading/publication party MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Spare Room Reading Series presents . . . Jonathan Skinner Reading and Publication Party Sunday, June 26nd 7:30 pm *Please note location* Pacific Switchboard 4637 N. Albina Avenue=20 Portland, OR (just south of Alberta street and just east of the I-5 freeway exit. You can reach us by taking the #4 Fessenden bus.) FREE ADMISSION www.flim.com/spareroom=20 spareroom@flim.com Please join us for a reading by Jonathan Skinner to celebrate the publication of his new book, Political Cactus Poems (Palm Press). Jonathan Skinner edits ecopoetics in Buffalo, NY where he misidentifies birds along the Niagara River. His work engages the various meanings of life outdoors, in the shape of a changing response to questions posed by the environments the poet physically inhabits. In part, the poetry operates as an instrument of research into a particular natural=20 environment or a geological formation or species. In exchange, it offers forms of life measured to particular places, an invitation to inhabit the evolutionary imagination of the senses and of those places. His first book-length collection,=20 Political Cactus Poems, which stem from the poet's life in the Southwest, challenges the pristine agenda of nature poetry by hybridizing themes from the lives of humans and cacti. PRAISE FOR JONATHAN SKINNER'S Political Cactus Poems:=20 If cactuses could talk, poets be out of work. In the meantime, Jonathan Skinner's *Political Cactus Poems *are primers of attentive engagement; not only its pleasures responsibilities, but also its animations and metamorphoses. It's not just that we read what we see; Skinner imagines that we are read by what sees us. "Matter's clatter" is the echo of unheard songs. In these poems, the saguaro drinks our words=20 and leaves us thirsty for more. --Charles Bernstein This is *Very* *Good* (*that's* *WHY* *I* *used* *it* when I taught at Mills, his *Little* *Dictionary* *Of* *Sounds*--I played the *Tape* *Of* *The=20 Sounds* & GAVE THEM THE POEMS *he* *had* *written*!--*I* *didn't* *have* *to * *TEACH*!!) -- *'VOCABULARY'* + *'STUDY'* (somehow) Evidences *THE* *WORLD* *AT* *LARGE* in ManyWritten Poems--BRAVO!! --Robert Grenier The fact is, humanity's a drop in the bucket. But only scantily has poetry looked at the rest of the bucket. Jonathan Skinner in *Political Cactus Poems* makes a wonderful stab in that omnidirection.=20 The language lays out its dynamics "as if" human and nature were one. The reader feels connections' displays not so much in terms of grammar as of a great series of metonymic grids, that feel like chemistry. Meanings=20 dance rather than submit to linear equations. On p. 33 one of Skinner's dense but unadorned "tope prisms" ends "spots taking on chronologies of their own expanding in a series of rotational slides=20 not yet confirmed. For the individual, stationary in the blast of current events no true point of balance is ever found." Mostly, they show-don't-tell. These down-to-earth cylinders, pulled from the air, are forwarding explorations in the most important direction poetry can go: out. Yet they're plenty human and fun to read. A macro-micro delight. --Jack Collom Jonathan Skinner with his journal *ecopoetics *has=20 been showing us how it is all connected. all systemic, all wonderful even while at risk. The poems in *Political Cactus Poems *do similar work as they tell the sad stories of contemporary politics (Milosevic and Bush show up at=20 various moments) with the specific stories of various cacti. These poems direct and redirect our attention to the larger ethical issues of political and natural environments. They are tight, luminous poems that=20 illustrate how the world is more complicated than most of us acknowledge. --Juliana Spahr Political Cactus Poems Price: $12.00. ISBN 0-9743181-1-6 Perfect-bound. Printed with soy-based ink on recycled=20 paper, 100% post-consumer waste. 120 pages. To order *Political Cactus Poems*, visit this link at the press website: http://www.palmpress.org/chapbooks.html=20 www.palmpress.org ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:41:50 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Kerri Sonnenberg Subject: Special Discrete event this Monday: Prevallet & Lyons (in Chicago) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed _________THE DISCRETE SERIES @ 3030__________ ::::::::presents poets Kristin Prevallet & Kimberly Lyons::::::: Monday, June 26 9PM / 3030 W. Cortland / $5 suggested donation / BYOB Kristin Prevallet is a poet and translator who lives in Brooklyn. Along with Bob Holman, Anne Waldman, and Alan Gilbert she co-founded Study Abroad on the Bowery: A Certificate Program in Applied Poetics at the Bowery Poetry Club. Her book Scratch Sides: Poetry, Documentation, and Image-text Projects was published by Skanky Possum in 2002. Kimberly Lyons' collection of poems, Saline (Granary Books, 2000) featured a cover by famed Chicago artist, Tony Fitzpatrick. She is the author of a number of other chapbooks and a 26-part serial poem with images by Ed Epping published in a limited edition also by Granary Books. Her new collection, Saline, was published by Instance Books in 2005 with a lovely cover image by poet and artist Brenda Iijima and has garnered encouraging words from such poet bloggers as Jack Kimball, John Latta, Ange Mlinko, Eileen Tabios and Nick Piombino. Kimberly Lyons was once a program coordinator at the Poetry Project but is now a psychiatric social worker at Long island College Hospital. She grew up in Chicago and went to Ray School in Hyde Park and Senn H.S. and Columbia College. She's lived in NYC since 1981. She'll discuss Max Ernst, Wilhelm Tempel and Deep Impact at the Inspiration of Astronomical Phenomenon reading on 6/28 at the Adler Planetarium. 3030 is a former Pentecostal church located at 3030 W. Cortland Ave., one block south of Armitage between Humboldt Blvd. and Kedzie. Parking is easiest on Armitage. The Discrete Series presents an event of poetry/music/performance/something on the second Friday of each month. For more information about this or upcoming events, email kerri@lavamatic.com , or call the space at 773-862-3616. http://www.lavamatic.com/discrete Coming up... :: The series is on vacation for the month of July :: August 12: Rick Snyder & Chuck Stebelton :: September 9: Elizabeth Robinson & TBA :: September 16: Keith & Rosmarie Waldrop ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:24:53 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mary Jo Malo Subject: "the new sane artist" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Adam Phillips: We might look to poetry now because poetry is marginalised - which is the best thing about it! It's freeing people actually to be able to work their own way. People are only going to be poets now if they really want to be. There's no money in it and very little glamour. That seems to be promising. The only pay-off of being a poet now is writing a good poem. And this seems to hold within itself the possibility that people will be freer with their own thoughts. They'll be less preoccupied by being winning, or by being charming or indeed by selling anything, because they've got nothing to sell. I think the new thing that might be happening is that the new sane artist will not be seeking recognition. That is whereas the mainstream of artists will be seeking recognition, fame and fortune, the new sane artist will have to dispense with precisely that quest to do their work. Melvyn Bragg: Why is that important? Adam Phillips: Because it frees you. Because once you relinquish the market (and that doesn't mean you don't earn your living), once you relinquish the saleability of your art now, you're now freer to have your own thoughts. Because, insofar as you're interested in marketing your thoughts, you have to be pre-occupied by a fantasy of what people want. It makes you compliant; it makes you inevitably servile to a fancy of the audience. Whereas if you have no audience, that interest drops out. _http://this-space.blogspot.com/2005/03/somewhere-about-hope-adam-phillips-on. html_ (http://this-space.blogspot.com/2005/03/somewh ere-about-hope-adam-phillips-on.html) And this is a wonderful blog: _http://artrift.blog-city.com/_ (http://artrift.blog-city.com/) Mary Jo ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:10:09 -0500 Reply-To: Adam Clay Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Adam Clay Subject: TYPO 6 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline http://www.typomag.com/issue06/index.html Featuring poems from: KOSTAS ANAGNOPOULOS ANNE BOYER SIMON DEDEO MICHELLE DETORIE TIM EARLEY JIM GOAR SARA HENNING MELANIE HUBBARD CHRISTINE HUME KENT JOHNSON KATY LEDERER REBECCA LOUDON SABRINA ORAH MARK JUSTIN MARKS RACHEL MORITZ SETH PARKER JULIET PATTERSON MICHAEL ROBINS HEIDI LYNN STAPLES JEN TYNES SAM WHITE yrs, -eds. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:44:47 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Craig Allen Conrad Subject: the first anthology of its kind: EVERYTHING I HAVE IS BLUE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone interested in a GLBT anthology which deals with real people in the real world, this is the first: EVERYTHING I HAVE IS BLUE, an anthology of writing by working class gay men. In this age of wanton exchange of capital, there are those in the queer community who are especially aggressive in proving that they and their other fancy queer friends are worthy citizens by displaying their large, secure Purchase Powers at the expense of anyone and everything. And they seem more than willing to do all they can to denounce, ignore, even destroy the larger GLBT community to assure their hetero board members, CEOs, mayors, state and national leaders, that the fringe of the GLBT community will be quietly replaced from the head of every significant position of authority in the community. We are witness to an astonishing hostile takeover, so to speak, and being mutated to reflect the fascist powers which now control this divided country. We must stop it, now! This anthology is part of that need and that cry to stop it now! In doing so, in at least speaking out as proud working class queer people in the age of Paris Hilton as superstar, we can hopefully allow other working class voices to speak up once again. We have much lost ground to regain, and time's a-wasting, as my grandma would say. Here's the official publishers website, just released today: _http://www.suspectthoughts.com/pressblue.htm_ (http://www.suspectthoughts.com/pressblue.htm) Granted, the words above were written by me, and not by the publisher or editor of this anthology, but I believe that they agree with what I say, and what dangers we face, and what we must start to do to survive, and recreate a community worthy of the word community, CAConrad _http://PhillySound.blogspot.com_ (http://phillysound.blogspot.com/) "Art, instead of being an object made by one person, is a process set into motion by a group of people. Art's socialized." --John Cage, 1967 "I know the butterfly is my soul grown weak from battle." --John Wieners ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:11:32 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Simon DeDeo Subject: Reading Tomorrow: NYC, Cloister Cafe, 8 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In celebration of the release of the latest issue of Typo http://www.typomag.com/issue06/index.html * Jen Tynes e.g., http://www.octopusmagazine.com/issue05/poets/Jen_Tynes.htm * Rachel Moritz e.g., http://mnartists.org/artistHome.do?rid=59942 * Simon DeDeo e.g., http://www.gutcult.com/Site/litjourn6/html/SD2.htm reading at the Cloister Cafe 232 East 9th St, bet. 2nd and 3rd Avenues Sunday, June 26th, 8 pm http://maps.google.com/maps?q=232+East+9th+Street,+NY,NY&spn=.184708,.268478&t=k&hl=en Hope to see you there! -- Simon ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:56:53 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: furniture_ press Subject: npr aok Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 so, folks, the people came through and pbs and npr got through, a-friggin-m= en! thanks to the people. chris www.towson.edu/~cacasama/furniture/poae baltimorereads.blogspot.com zillionpoems.blogspot.com --=20 _______________________________________________ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for just= US$9.95 per year! Powered By Outblaze ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:14:33 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joe Brennan Subject: Check out The Assassinated Press Comments: To: corp-focus@lists.essential.org, WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Click here: The Assassinated Press http://www.theassassinatedpress.com/ Bill Frist Wins Josef Mengele Award For Second Year Running: Dr. Frist Calls U.S. Torture Of Innocent Captives At Gitmo "Imaginative, Cutting Edge": Durbin, Forgetting His Hannah Arendt, Absolves Low Level Prison Camp Personnel: Frist To Star As Nazi Dentist In Remake Of Marathon Man BYLE LARDNER They hang the man and flog the woman That steal the goose from off the common, But let the greater villain loose That steals the common from the goose. ".....at a time when I am speaking to you about the paradox of desire -- in the sense that different goods obscure it -- you can hear outside the awful language of power. There's no point in asking whether they are sincere or hypocritical, whether they want peace of whether they calculate the risks. The dominating impression as such a moment is that something that may pass for a prescribed good; information addresses and captures impotent crowds to whom it is poured forth like a liquor that leaves them dazed as they move toward the slaughter house. One might even ask if one would allow the cataclysm to occur without first giving free reign to this hubbub of voices...." ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:15:57 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Baraban Subject: ku In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thinking of the situation of Jesse Glass wanting to dub some Western transformions of haiku "usoku" (false haiku)... I recollect Akira Kurosawa's 1949 detective thriller "Stray Dog" ("Nora Inu"), which is about a Japanse detective obessively searching for the gun a criminal has stolen from him. There's a scene in which, as part of his investigation, the detective attends a baseball game. When the 7th inning comes, you see all the people in the stands get up for the "7th inning stretch". At the screening of this movie I attended (at New York City's Japan Society), the audience, including myself, was laughing vigorously at this moment, because it seemed droll that the Japanese would adopt this silly little fan ritual along with the consequential rules of the game... So this seems to indicate that the Japanese do believe very deeply that if you are going to adopt an activity from another culture you should take on all the rules, practices, traditions and philosophies of that activity. Thus one could say that the Japanese are in a strong position to ask the same from, for instance, Western haiku-fanciers. And yet, and yet--if in the West our particular genius is of a more iconoclastic nature, why shouldn't we do what we do? The visual haiku (or "haiku") by Scott Helms on Geof Huth's site is interesting to contemplate--I'm just starting, but I'd say it's very interesting how each "line" in these whatevers is itself broken into three parts. However these "lines" are rather angular, which IS a little jarring in terms of what I think of as the haiku spirit... Anyway, Irving Weiss's Socrates haiku sent to this list in response to this discussion was pretty damn wonderful, I hope we can agree on THAT, J.G. Last thing...what's I imagine is VERY hard to stomach for ANYONE who's seriously contemplated haiku for even 15 minutes in iffy translations is this current craze in American (also British?) popular culture to adopt haiku as simply concise statement of any sort in 5/7/5, so there are phenomena like contests to encapsulate current news events in dopey all-too-clever "haikus". --- Jesse Glass wrote: > To describe, accurately, the proliferation of "kus" > cranked out by Bob > Gru-ku-machine-mann, and now (heaven help us!) > "visual haiku" invented > by Scott Helms and displayed on Geof Huth's site--I > offer the word > Usoku from the Japanese Uso--meaning false, and > ku--line or inscription. > Usoku, because of course none of these forms of > writing or art have > anything to do with haiku. Jess > ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:56:03 +0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Bob Marcacci Subject: Re: ku In-Reply-To: <20050626041557.87286.qmail@web30710.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit gozaimasu... actually, i think they rise and sing the team's anthem during the sixth inning in Japan... at least, at the games i attended... i would need someone over there right now to verify that, though... i'm forgetful... if i remember correctly, they blow-up long balloons, which makes the entire stadium look like a big rainbow anemone, and release them during the seventh inning... new meaning to the seventh-inning stretch... not very eco-conscious, either... also, they cheer endlessly during the games, most of them unaware of what is actually happening on field... makes a boring blow-out much more exciting, though... big games even bring out cheerleaders in the stands who lead the masses... they have adopted mascots who trot out stuffed animals to a player when he hits a homerun... there are other differences... a kind of bastard adoption... if we really adopted haiku, each word should represent one unit, rather than using the syllable... *shrugs* i don't mind the bastard adaptions of that form, though... it's just good fun, if anything... these days, the good stuff lives on and the bad stuff gets lost in a cybergrave... adopting activities? how many of us know everything about something before we embark? sometimes the accidents and experiments work out... -- Bob Marcacci Congratulation: the civility of envy. - Ambrose Bierce > From: Stephen Baraban > Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group > Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:15:57 -0700 > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: ku > > When the 7th inning comes, you see all the > people in the stands get up for the "7th inning > stretch". At the screening of this movie I attended > (at New York City's Japan Society), the audience, > including myself, was laughing vigorously at this > moment, because it seemed droll that the Japanese > would adopt this silly little fan ritual along with > the consequential rules of the game... > > So this seems to indicate that the Japanese do believe > very deeply that if you are going to adopt an activity > from another culture you should take on all the rules, > practices, traditions and philosophies of that > activity. Thus one could say that the Japanese are in > a strong position to ask the same from, for instance, > Western haiku-fanciers. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 00:49:15 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Halvard Johnson Subject: Re: ku In-Reply-To: <20050626041557.87286.qmail@web30710.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reminds me that even the Japanese don't always get it right. Back in the 80s, during the ET craze, I remember seeing sidewalk vendors selling ET dolls wearing boxing gloves. And then there's the famous story of the Ginza department store that, during the early years of the post-war occupation, featured a Santa in a store window--but nailed to a cross. Hal Art & Plastic Surgery Halvard Johnson halvard@earthlink.net halvard@gmail.com website: http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard blog: http://entropyandme.blogspot.com/ On Jun 26, 2005, at 12:15 AM, Stephen Baraban wrote: > I recollect Akira Kurosawa's 1949 detective thriller > "Stray Dog" ("Nora Inu"), which is about a Japanse > detective obessively searching for the gun a criminal > has stolen from him. There's a scene in which, as part > of his investigation, the detective attends a baseball > game. When the 7th inning comes, you see all the > people in the stands get up for the "7th inning > stretch". At the screening of this movie I attended > (at New York City's Japan Society), the audience, > including myself, was laughing vigorously at this > moment, because it seemed droll that the Japanese > would adopt this silly little fan ritual along with > the consequential rules of the game... > > So this seems to indicate that the Japanese do believe > very deeply that if you are going to adopt an activity > from another culture you should take on all the rules, > practices, traditions and philosophies of that > activity. Thus one could say that the Japanese are in > a strong position to ask the same from, for instance, > Western haiku-fanciers. > > And yet, and yet--if in the West our particular genius > is of a more iconoclastic nature, why shouldn't we do > what we do? The visual haiku (or "haiku") by Scott > Helms on Geof Huth's site is interesting to > contemplate--I'm just starting, but I'd say it's very > interesting how each "line" in these whatevers is > itself broken into three parts. However these "lines" > are rather angular, which IS a little jarring in terms > of what I think of as the haiku spirit... > > Anyway, Irving Weiss's Socrates haiku sent to this > list in response to this discussion was pretty damn > wonderful, I hope we can agree on THAT, J.G. > > Last thing...what's I imagine is VERY hard to stomach > for ANYONE who's seriously contemplated haiku for even > 15 minutes in iffy translations is this current craze > in American (also British?) popular culture to adopt > haiku as simply concise statement of any sort in > 5/7/5, so there are phenomena like contests to > encapsulate current news events in dopey > all-too-clever "haikus". > > > > --- Jesse Glass wrote: > >> To describe, accurately, the proliferation of "kus" >> cranked out by Bob >> Gru-ku-machine-mann, and now (heaven help us!) >> "visual haiku" invented >> by Scott Helms and displayed on Geof Huth's site--I >> offer the word >> Usoku from the Japanese Uso--meaning false, and >> ku--line or inscription. >> Usoku, because of course none of these forms of >> writing or art have >> anything to do with haiku. Jess >> > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Sports > Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football > http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:53:26 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: mIEKAL aND Subject: The Curious Case of Dr Alabone-Heterodoxy Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed This text is invisible on the page, but this text is affected by the invisible item's surgery receiving barrels of coded diagrams that actually populate codes of inhaled techniques using short-acting lavish Trauma Under the corresponding Abstract theft. Subscription following probation is affected by the invisible item's trial graft to records in a bloodless Resuscitation. The 3-phase damage addressed in a single chapter, especially in A Self-Limiting Doppler bypass, cited by the Information Journal of Outmigration in an era of outcomes. Circulation is affected by fluid leaked from This text but this text is affected by the fluid six weeks later, they let the source work your butt off, 'digital bullying' by The Curious Case of Dr Alabone-Heterodoxy in a 19th century feuilliton disgracefully translated. http://joglars.org/InterWriting/index.php/UnderTake ____ [field notes from my first time in a hospital, should have 2 good legs in a matter of days] ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:00:41 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Susan Webster Schultz Subject: yet more TINFISH news! Comments: To: British & Irish poets , sschultz@hawaii.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This week's Tinfish flood features _Growing Still_, a chapbook by Deborah Meadows, and _composite diplomacy_, a chap by Padcha Tuntha-obas. And don't forget last week's _Cribs_, by Yunte Huang, or next week's TINFISH 15 and Sherman Souther's _Surgical Bru ez_!! See them all at http://tinfishpress.com/hot_off_the_press.html and order via our magical credit card payment system or by check (but alert me via email that you are sending check, because I'll be away for a while). Please help us continue to publish experimental work from the Pacific. aloha, Susan Susan M. Schultz Editor Gaye Chan Art Director ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:44:21 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "Walter K. Lew" Subject: Re: POETICS Digest - 24 Jun 2005 to 25 Jun 2005 (#2005-175) In-Reply-To: <200506260357.j5Q3v1M3017563@sparkie.humnet.ucla.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That wd have been nice, but actually what has happened is: (a) only half of the original $200 million in cuts were "restored" ; (b) a Bushite named Patricia Harrison (former co-chairman of the Republican National Committee, 1997-2001 ) has been appointed president of the CPB; (c) cuts elsewhere in the budget that cripple the production of programming have not been restored . Bait and switch. > Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:56:53 -0500 > From: furniture_ press > Subject: npr aok > > so, folks, the people came through and pbs and npr got through, > a-friggin-m= > en! > > thanks to the people. > > chris > > www.towson.edu/~cacasama/furniture/poae > baltimorereads.blogspot.com > zillionpoems.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:47:04 +0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: derekrogerson Organization: derekrogerson.com Subject: [job] creative writer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Location: Los Angeles Rah-E-Zendegi, a bilingual magazine, is looking for a fulltime creative writer for fiction/nonfiction prose works & poetic, biography, article, descriptive or critical analysis and to conduct research. High school diploma + 2 years experience. Fax this ad and your resume to 310.470.4329 Rah-E-Zendegi ('the way of life') is a Farsi-language monthly published in Los Angeles, California, home for a large group of Iranian Americans. Rah-E-Zendegi, whose publisher is female, is devoted to preserving Iranian culture and identity, especially through the use of Farsi, yet still describes, filters, and even promotes customs of modern American women. http://rahezendegi.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:42:38 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Michael Rothenberg Subject: New Issue of Jack Magazine online MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Online the new issue of Jack Magazine www.jackmagazine.com Volume 3, Number 1 ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 08:41:30 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jason Nelson Subject: NetBehaviour Residency Almost Over MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit My NetBehaviour Residency is almost over and I am searching for favorites. If you have followed my residency or are looking at them for the first time now, I would love, no... I NEED TO KNOW WHICH ARE YOUR FAVORITES, why or why not and all that rigmarole. Please do let me know and I'll include your thoughts in the final creation. My wrists are hurting. cheers, Jason Nelson Residency url: http://www.secrettechnology.com/resident/residency.htm Residency description: Exploring interface and interactive creatures with content grabbed, thrust, stolen, and borrowed from new media artists, poets and electronic pioneers. Over these 2-3 weeks, I will create twenty-four digital extravaganzas, with each one being loosely or closely centered on the content, ideas, images and words of others. Think of this as ego stroking and translation, a way to connect to those I have never met and might not ever meet, and play with ideas of interaction and interface. Some have offered their content, others will simply be robbed, and all will be enchanted, confused, annoyed and giddily stroked. Bio: "As a NET ARTIST, I am apparently dying or dead. With that in mind, I bask in my zombie glow, my rotting wires and my urge to bite through skulls. I could list those academic and worldly accolades that have trophied themselves on my work, but I am only as good as the last swirling mess I spit out. I live in Australia with a beautiful woman and miss the snow, so miss the snow." My worlds: http://www.heliozoa.com http://www.secrettechnology.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 01:14:19 +0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: derekrogerson Organization: derekrogerson.com Subject: [job] Assistant Professor, English (Creative Writing) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Location: Bridgewater, MA Bridgewater State College in southeastern Massachusetts Responsibilities: Teach freshman writing and/or general education classes and poetry writing courses. Qualifications: Ph.D. in English with a specialization in creative writing or MFA with an emphasis in poetry. College teaching experience required. Since all faculty in the department teach freshman writing, preparation in composition will be an advantage. Apply online @ http://bridgew.edu/jobs/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:54:23 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinksy Subject: Re: ku MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit true jesse but there is this experimental trend tho all haiku rules from ippikiru on thru kerouac have changed drastically and 5/7/5 doth not a haiku make cor van den huevel and others in the true haiku movement in the west should be considered when having these silly random intellectual discussion heat wave- in my birthday suit writing to the list tho this may be considered by some to be senryu ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:04:00 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: "David A. Kirschenbaum" Subject: *NYC Instant Small, Small Press Fair Wants Your NYC Press* Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit hi all, on thurs. july 7, from 6:00 p.m.-9:00 p.m., at aca galleries, 529 w.20th st., 5th floor, nyc, boog city will be having its second annual nyc small, small press fair. (the presses' editors will also each read some of their own work, and there will be music from babs soft and friends. a more formal announcement is forthcoming later this week.) if you would like your nyc-based small press to partake, please backchannel me to editor@boogcity.com (fyi, there's no fee to have your press participate, or door charge for attendees.) hope this finds you all well. as ever, david -- David A. Kirschenbaum, editor and publisher Boog City 330 W.28th St., Suite 6H NY, NY 10001-4754 T: (212) 842-BOOG (2664) F: (212) 842-2429 ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:11:02 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joel Weishaus Subject: Fw: Tribute for Chet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "hammond guthrie" To: "Joel" Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 4:58 PM Subject: Tribute for Chet In Light - Namasté Hammond In Memories Awake - Chet Helms http://emptymirrorbooks.com/thirdpage/chethelmstribute.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:48:46 +0900 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jesse Glass Subject: Haptic Poetry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" http://www.sendecki.com/ahadada/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:06:01 -0400 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: m&r...the holy land... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Take the train...get off at Merkaz Haifa...the station next to the port...walk north past the huge crane...toward the too self-assertive new egg cut in half shaped Rabin Govt Office Bldng...past a small shopping section...where you can buy a cappacino and croissant..at the same price as Paris/NY...about half a mile...and you'll find the Flea Market... In a small parking lot...concrete cut up...densely packed with the world's junk...radiating from the sides..a random street seller or two...this Sun. morning at 6:00...tho the day before on Sat Aft....there were 50 say street guys... The merchandise...as if by common consent...is invariably thrown into a heap...taken out its box...and plastered any which way...jumble allah....heap to heap packed tight....ahs loves it... I go throw one random pile....and find a bibliography of Russian-Jewish lit..from 1917 to X...a lite ex-lib mark or two...i'm trying to convince myself...that this is just what i want to carry half way around the world...i look for the seller...he's sleeping under a blanket on concrete...his half eaten dinner...pita...some onion like veggie..hummus..is being picked at by a stray fly... I decide i can live without it...xanadu...drn.. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:18:29 -0400 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Aleph-Beth Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ba h'ai gardens jumble allah mazel tov Cee NN vide...drn... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 04:43:18 -0700 Reply-To: rsillima@yahoo.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Ron Silliman Subject: Silliman's Blog Comments: To: British & Irish poets , Wom Po In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/ RECENT POSTS Sgt Pepper Goes to Hell: Jessica Yu’s Henry Darger Sappho’s new work TV & its priorities Steve Benson: the “sitting” as a unit of writing Jimmy Weinstein: entrepreneur of left publications RealPoetik: an email zine implodes Lee Harwood’s Collected Poems Jennifer Moxley’s line Typewriters! Style & Batman Begins Language poetry & the academy Zukofsky’s Apollinaire – is it really his? Louis Zukofsky – A different kind of Selected Works Online vs. print poets – is there a difference? http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:35:18 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mary Jo Malo Subject: gee eight etc (beyond politics) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 'old charlie stole the handle' bagpiped and kilted on highland heights the eight gather and glow forgive debt bestow wisdom dole the deals secure cyberspace plan for further planning dispense BiDil and nano-Nirvana while Media chants mythology and pacifies with metaphor whiffenpoofs and wahabis sail in yachts upon Mercury de la Mer over head blue angels play haarps and chems trail skywrite plutonium guards poppy fields those who think they know want us to believe their plausible deniability mjm ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:17:32 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Dan Wilcox Subject: Poets in the Park, Albany, NY Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Poets in the Park 2005 Saturdays in July at the Robert Burns statue Washington Park, Albany, NY (at Henry Johnson Blvd. & Hudson Ave.) July 9, 7PM Open Mic Benefit for the Tom Nattell Memorial Peace Poetry Prize July 16, 7PM Shirlee Dufort & Shiv Mirabito July 23, 7PM Debora Bump & Thaddeus Rutkowski July 30, 7PM High School Poets (tba) Free!=A0& open to the public (just like the park) Rain dates:=A0the following Sundays, same time, same place sponsored by the Poetry Motel Foundation for information call 482-0262 ## ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:19:00 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: alexander saliby Subject: Re: gee eight etc (beyond politics) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable But What of "Bones" or Scroll the Keys who use the Wolf's Head to toss us into the fray? they are the ones to fear my dear... ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mary Jo Malo=20 To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU=20 Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 7:35 AM Subject: gee eight etc (beyond politics) 'old charlie stole the handle' bagpiped and kilted on highland heights the eight gather and glow forgive debt bestow wisdom dole the deals secure cyberspace plan for further planning dispense BiDil and nano-Nirvana while Media chants mythology and pacifies with metaphor whiffenpoofs and wahabis sail in yachts upon Mercury de la Mer over head blue angels play haarps and chems trail skywrite plutonium guards poppy fields those who think they know want us to believe their plausible deniability mjm ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:21:34 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Gerald Schwartz Subject: consTELLations MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable consTELLations Gerald Schwartz/Damian Catera A planetarium show manipulating and=20 combining poetry about the cosmos from=20 a variety of different periods and cultures=20 and, through this bricolage, creating a=20 dialogue between the different poems.=20 The resulting new work-- one which will=20 allow the subject matter to tell its own=20 story -- will offer an opportunity to=20 contemplate and interrogate the=20 starry sky. @ the INSAP V Conference/=20 the Adler Planetarium/Chicago Thursday, June 30/ 2:30 PM Free & open to the public ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:28:08 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joel Weishaus Subject: "Forest Park Page-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is to announce Page-8 of "Forest Park: A Journal": http://web.pdx.edu/~pdx00282/Forest/Page-8/text-8.htm To my knowledge, this is the last page. Citations are in text boxes that open when you hold your cursor over a = quote.=20 Screen resolution must be set at 1024X768, for these boxes to open = correctly. MS Explorer or Foxfire browsers preferred. Font size: Medium. From Title Page: http://web.pdx.edu/~pdx00282/Forest/Title.htm Sorry for this mass mailing. Thanks, to you all. -Joel __________________________________ Joel Weishaus Visiting Faculty Department of English Portland State University Portland, Oregon Homepage: http://web.pdx.edu/~pdx00282 Archive: www.cddc.vt.edu/host/weishaus/index.htm ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:41:54 +0200 Reply-To: argotist@fsmail.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Jeffrey Side Subject: New Marjorie Perloff interview Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is a new interview with Marjorie Perloff on The Argotist Online at http://www.argotistonline.co.uk/Perloff%20interview.htm There are also interviews with Charles Bernstein, Michael Rothenberg and Iain Sinclair. As well as poetry by Hank Lazer, Michael Rothenberg, Anne Blonstein, Robert Hampson, and Sheila Murphy among others. Also articles on William Bronk and Peter Redgrove etc. -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:54:08 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: konrad Subject: [SF EVENT] NEO-BENSHI: Live Film Narration at SF CINEMATHEQUE 7/7/05 Comments: To: Experimental Film Discussion List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed SF Cinematheque presents July 7th 7:30 and 9:30pm (same show) at Yerba Buena Center for the Arts 701 Third (at Mission St) San Francisco, CA NEO-BENSHI: The Latter Day Art of Live Film Narration Writer/performers from the Bay Area, making use of a form of the Kuleshov Effect, will re-present the following genres: 1930s Serial Western Brandon Brown 1950s Hollywood Melodrama Roxanne Power Hamilton 1950s Bollywood Melodrama Rodney Koeneke 1960s Crime Drama Norma Cole & Mac McGinnes 1980s Sci-Fi Horror Stephanie Young 2000s Historical Epic David Larsen * * * A "benshi" was a film-teller, someone who wrote a script to narrate and act out from the stage what's happening on the movie screen. This was a major profession in Korea and Japan in the silent film era. Sometimes the benshi ventriloquized the characters in the movie, sometimes just narrated the action, sometimes remained silent. They always wrote their own scripts. Neo-benshi warps that format to a modern entertainment-art of taking back the movies for ourselves. Screenplays are tossed, subtexts are revealed and genres are transposed to another key. In this festival of alternate readings, six scenes from major films (since in the US we go broke or get busted for filming anything ourselves anymore) are wrested from the studios by turning the sound off, and re-telling them in real time. The Neo-benshi craze is sweeping the coast, then the nation, then the oceans. Come see it in its pre-tsunami form: Yerba Buena Center for the Arts, Screening Room Mission at Third Streets July 7th 7:30 and 9:30 (same show) $7 general, $4 student/senior/Cinematheque members For advance tickets call 415.978.2787 http://www.sfcinematheque.org/ "Neo-benshi is the karaoke of cinema" - Konrad Steiner. * * * Further related concepts: counterfeit (v.) ca. 1292, from O.Fr. contrefait "imitated," pp. of contrefaire "imitate," from contre- "against" + faire "make." M.L. contrafactio meant "setting in opposition or contrast." Kuleshov Effect (n.) ca. 1919, the mental tendency of viewers to attempt to figure out how a sequence of filmed shots fit together. voiceover (n.) ca. 1947, cinema term for the voice of either an unseen narrator or an onscreen character not seen speaking, in a movie or a television broadcast. karaoke (n.) ca. 1979, from Japanese, from kara "empty" + oke shortened form of okesutora, a Japanization of Eng. "orchestra" ^Z ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:55:57 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Austinwja@AOL.COM Subject: Blackbox submissions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone! The submission period is now open for the Blackbox summer 2005 gallery. If you are unfamiliar with Blackbox, go to WilliamJamesAustin.com and follow the Blackbox link. Be sure to follow the instructions on the Blackbox page when you submit. I'm going to leave open, for the time being, the closing date for submissions. Once I have what I need, I'll announce on the lists that the submission period is closed. This time around, I am looking primarily for essays, theoretical or otherwise. I will nevertheless consider everything that comes in, i.e., the usual vispo, web art, word text poetry, etc. But an interesting essay on aesthetics/poetics (of whatever length) will jump to the top of the list. Again, as always, my sincere thanks to all who have supported and contributed to Blackbox. Best, Bill WilliamJamesAustin.com KojaPress.com Amazon.com BarnesandNobel.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:45:26 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mary Jo Malo Subject: gee eight etc. (beyond politics) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Alex, You've probably and since discovered that I covered that with Whiffenpoofs. Cover me. it's all a foregone conclusion these things I speak of address: planet earth, solar system, milky way, universe, manhattan, forest undress 'cause there's no redress just more stress transgress and bless this mess like jack said: Poor gentle flesh - there is No answer not a haiku, just a little pome mjm **** But What of "Bones" or Scroll the Keys who use the Wolf's Head to toss us into the fray? they are the ones to fear my dear... ********************************** 'old charlie stole the handle' bagpiped and kilted on highland heights the eight gather and glow forgive debt bestow wisdom dole the deals secure cyberspace plan for further planning dispense BiDil and nano-Nirvana while Media chants mythology and pacifies with metaphor whiffenpoofs and wahabis sail in yachts upon Mercury de la Mer over head blue angels play haarps and chems trail skywrite plutonium guards poppy fields those who think they know want us to believe their plausible deniability mjm ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:21:37 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Vernon Frazer Subject: Re: Blackbox submissions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Bill Thingz is crazy here, trying to pack & move & sell the hsoue. I'll try to get some poems to you ASAP. I odn't have any essays, so that's the best I can do. If you can't use em, that's ok. IMPROVISATIONS is in the mail to you. Best, V. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 12:55 PM Subject: Blackbox submissions > Hello everyone! > > The submission period is now open for the Blackbox summer 2005 gallery. > If > you are unfamiliar with Blackbox, go to WilliamJamesAustin.com and follow > the > Blackbox link. Be sure to follow the instructions on the Blackbox page > when > you submit. > > I'm going to leave open, for the time being, the closing date for > submissions. Once I have what I need, I'll announce on the lists that the > submission > period is closed. > > This time around, I am looking primarily for essays, theoretical or > otherwise. I will nevertheless consider everything that comes in, i.e., > the usual > vispo, web art, word text poetry, etc. But an interesting essay on > aesthetics/poetics (of whatever length) will jump to the top of the list. > > Again, as always, my sincere thanks to all who have supported and > contributed > to Blackbox. > > Best, Bill > > WilliamJamesAustin.com > KojaPress.com > Amazon.com > BarnesandNobel.com > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:23:27 -0400 Reply-To: az421@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Rob McLennan Subject: new(ish) on rob's clever blog Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT new(ish) on rob's clever blog - from Missing Persons (a work-in-progress, fiction) - SERUM magazine & what Lars Palm said about me - Stuart Ross' Syd & Shirley poetry magazine, issue #1 - the name is the bullet (memoir bit) - review of Sina Queyras' Teethmarks (Nightwood Editions) - fringe festival + the ottawa small press fair - sex at 31: Kristina Drake & Wanda O'Connor - ongoing notes, May 2005 (Calgary's MODL Press, including derek beaulieu, Jill Hartman & Brea Burton; Ottawa Art Gallery's recent zine fair) - the return of William Hawkins, Ottawa's most dangerous poet - Guernica Writers Series, 2005 - a note on Stephen Brockwell's Glengarry poems - a note on the poetry of Monty Reid etc www.robmclennan.blogspot.com -- poet/editor/pub. ... ed. STANZAS mag & side/lines: a new canadian poetics (Insomniac)...pub., above/ground press ...coord.,SPAN-O + ottawa small press fair ...9th coll'n - what's left (Talon) ...c/o RR#1 Maxville ON K0C 1T0 www.track0.com/rob_mclennan * http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:18:31 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Vernon Frazer Subject: Re: Blackbox Submissions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Uh, sorry 'bout that, folks. I thought I was backchanneling Bill. Vernon ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:40:24 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: World Tribunal on Iraq Condemns U.S. and Britain Recognizes Right of Iraqis to Resist Occupation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2005/06/42281.php World Tribunal on Iraq Condemns U.S. and Britain Recognizes Right of Iraqis to Resist Occupation..."An enemy combatant seems to be anybody who harbors thoughts of resistance. Well, if this is the definition, then I, for one, am an enemy combatant." -- Arundhati Roy World Tribunal on Iraq Condemns U.S. and Britain, Recognizes Right of Iraqis to Resist Occupation Monday, June 27th, 2005 http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/27/1335230 The World Tribunal on Iraq wrapped its three-day session today in Istanbul, Turkey. The tribunal investigated various issues on Iraq including the legality of the war, the role of the United Nations, war crimes and the role of the media, as well as the destruction of the cultural sites and the environment. We play excerpts of addresses by human rights attorney Barbara Olshansky and Indian writer Arundhati Roy. [includes rush transcript] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The World Tribunal on Iraq wrapped its three day session today in Istanbul, Turkey. Torture and rendition was a main theme of the testimony heard there. Among the speakers at the tribunal this weekend was human rights attorney Barbara Olshansky of the Center for Constiutional Rights. She is author the book, "America's Disappeared: Secret Imprisonment, Detainees, and the "War on Terror." * Barbara Olshansky, attorney with the Center for Constitutional Rights addressing the World Tribunal on Iraq, June 26, 2005. The gathering was modeled after the International War Crimes Tribunal that British philosopher Bertrand Russell formed in 1967 during the Vietnam War. Speakers included Indian writer Arundhati Roy, former UN Assistant Secretary General Dennis Halliday, independent journalist Dahr Jamail and others. This year's gathering was the culminating session of commissions of inquiry and hearings on the Iraq war held around the world over the past two years. The Istanbul Tribunal consisted of three days of hearings investigating various issues related to the war on Iraq, such as the legality of the war, the role of the United Nations, war crimes and the role of the media, as well as the destruction of the cultural sites and the environment. A 17-member Jury of Conscience at the Tribunal heard testimonies from a panel of advocates and witnesses who came from across the world, including from Iraq, the United States and the United Kingdom. The jury delivered its verdict and recommendations at a news conference this morning. The preliminary verdict read in part, "Recognizing the right of the Iraqi people to resist the illegal occupation of their country and to develop independent institutions, and affirming that the right to resist the occupation is the right to wage a struggle for self-determination, freedom, and independence as derived from the Charter of the United Nations, we the Jury of Conscience declare our solidarity with the people of Iraq." We go now to jury chair Arundhati Roy's remarks yesterday, following testimony from witnesses of the war and occupation. * Arundhati Roy, Chair of Jury of Conscience, addressing the World Tribunal on Iraq, June 26, 2005. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ RUSH TRANSCRIPT AMY GOODMAN: We continue on this theme of rendition, which was taken up at the World Tribunal on Iraq this weekend in Istanbul, Turkey, which wrapped up a three-day session. It was the main theme of testimony of Barbara Olshansky. She is with the Center for Constitutional Rights and traveled to Istanbul for the Tribunal. Her book is called America’s Disappeared: Secret Imprisonment, Detainees and the War on Terror. This is an excerpt of what she had to say. BARBARA OLSHANSKY: The United States government’s unlawful and covert practices started very early on. And I'm just going to say this to give people a picture of how quickly this administration seized on an opportunity to repress people. Within one day of the attacks on the United States, the government rounded up -- started rounding up in excess of 1,500 people -- that's a guess; we'll never know how many -- immigrants and foreign visitors to the United States of Middle Eastern origin and/or of the Muslim faith and put them in jails and detention centers around the United States and ordered the guards at those jails to lie to the attorneys who came to the jails and to lie to the foreign consulates about who was imprisoned there. This was a deliberate order of our Attorney General then, John Ashcroft, to lie to everyone that came to the door about who was there. And when we filed under our federal law seeking information about who had been arrested -- because people had come to us, and said, “They took my husband, my brother, my son, my nephew, and I don't know where they went.” And we had to go literally door to door to try and find people. When we asked under this law, this information law, about how many people were taken, what was the justification, whether they had attorneys, whether their families knew, whether their consulates were advised, whether they could make calls, we got an answer from our Department of Justice that we were not entitled to know. A last piece I’ll say about it: With the creation of Guantanamo also comes an exponential growth in the C.I.A.'s extraordinary rendition program. Under this program, United States Special Forces charter private jets and fly around the world and pick up people. Now, these are not usually enemy combatants. For those, we, I think, use our regular Army and Air Force planes. These are people that are seized, hooded and shackled, brought out surreptitiously from the country where they're captured and sent to third countries for interrogation under torture at the United States' request. I’m sure some people have read about this. It happened to two Egyptian men who were taken from Sweden. It happened to people that were transiting -- traveling from one flight to another in J.F.K. airport and ended up in Syria for a year being tortured, and this, what the C.I.A. calls their ‘snatch and grab’ operations, has been confirmed by C.I.A. officials and now private citizens who have helped to set up to the operations for the charter companies. These are the things started with Guantanamo. What they prove, and I guess why someone who was much wiser than me understood when they asked me here today, is that they prove that every statement made by the United States government about abuses in Abu Ghraib, abuses elsewhere in Iraq, being the work of a few rogue individuals is a monstrous lie. It could not be anything else other than a monstrous lie, because these policies started in Guantanamo, and we now know that they started at the request of those highest up in the administration and they have been going on from Guantanamo through to the present. They are certainly not the policies of single individuals. What they also show is that while this has been going on, there has been a failure of leadership in the United States. Neither the judiciary nor Congress has been able to hold back this tide of militarism and brutality committed by the military and by the Bush administration. And that is why I think it's important for me to be here today to see that there are so many people to work with to try and rein in a rogue country that has alienated itself and the rest of the world from the people of the United States. Thank you. AMY GOODMAN: Barbara Olshansky of the Center for Constitutional Rights, speaking at the World Tribunal on Iraq in Istanbul this weekend. The gathering was modeled on the International War Crimes Tribunal that British philosopher Bertrand Russell formed in 1967 during the Vietnam War. Speakers included Indian writer Arundhati Roy, former U.N. Assistant Secretary General, Dennis Halliday, and independent journalist Dahr Jamail. This year's gathering was the culmination of commissions of inquiry and hearings on the invasion of Iraq held around the world over the past two years. The Istanbul Tribunal consisted of three days of hearings investigating various issues related to Iraq, such as the legality of the war, the role of the U.N., war crimes and the role of the media, as well as the destruction of the cultural sites and the environment. A seventeen-member Jury of Conscience at the Tribunal heard testimonies from a panel of advocates and witnesses who came from across the world, including from Iraq, the U.S., and Britain. The jury delivered its verdict and recommendations at a news conference today. The preliminary verdict read in part, (quote), “Recognizing the right of the Iraqi people to resist the illegal occupation of their country and to develop independent institutions and affirming that the right to resist the occupation is the right to wage a struggle for self-determination, freedom and independence as derived from the charter of the United Nations, we, the Jury of Conscience declare our solidarity with the people of Iraq.” We go now to the jury chair, who read today's verdict, Arundhati Roy. But these comments she gave yesterday after testimony from witnesses who had been to Iraq, of both the invasion and occupation. ARUNDHATI ROY: When I was invited to be on the jury by the W.T.I. -- yesterday, when they were making a film, they asked me, “Why did you agree? You must have had so many invitations; why did you choose this?” And I said, you know, “I feel so hurt that you are asking me this question. Because it's ours. You know, where else would I be? What other invitations would matter to me when we have to attend to this, this huge, enormous bloody thing?” You know, since I'm not a lawyer, nor am I even much of an organizer, nor am I even somebody who has been particularly concerned about my legitimacy or, you know. I don't think in sort of legal and bureaucratic terms, so you know, I didn't really go down the road of questioning who we are or who we represent, because to me it was a bit like somebody asking me whether I had the legitimacy to write a novel. I mean, we're just a group of human beings, whether we are five or ten or fifteen or ten million. Surely, we have the right to express an opinion, and surely, if that opinion is irrelevant, surely, if that opinion is full of false facts, surely, if that opinion is absurd, it will be treated as such, and if that opinion is, in fact, representative of the opinion of millions of people, it will become very huge. So we don't need to really worry ourselves too much about defining ourselves. I think we need to worry about being very clear, being very honest, being very precise about what we think and express that fearlessly and in solidarity with the values that all of us have so clearly expressed in so many ways here today. I really think this last three days – I mean, as a -- speaking as a writer, what I seek with complete greed, what I seek almost ruthlessly is understanding. You know, that is all that I ever ask for, an understanding of the debt of this world we live in. And that was a gift that one received, and I will always be grateful for it. To ask us why we are doing this, you know, why is there a World Tribunal on Iraq, is like asking, you know, someone who stops at the site of an accident where people are dying on the road, why did you stop? Why didn't you keep walking like everybody else? While I listened to the testimonies yesterday, especially, I must say that I didn't know -- I mean, not that one has to choose, but still, you know, I didn't know what was more chilling, you know, the testimonies of those who came from Iraq with the stories of the blood and the destruction and the brutality and the darkness of what was happening there or the stories of that cold, calculated world where the business contracts are being made, where the laws are be rewritten, where a country occupies another with no idea of how it's going to provide protection to people, but with such a sophisticated idea of how it's going to loot it of its resources. You know, the brutality or the contrast of those two things was so chilling. There were times when I felt, I wish I wasn't on the jury, because I want to say things. You know? I mean, I think that is the nature of this tribunal, that, in a way, one wants to be everything. You want to be on the jury, you want to be on the other side, you want to say things. And I particularly wanted to talk a lot about -- which I won't do now, so don't worry, but I wanted to talk a lot about my own, you know, now several years of experience with issues of resistance, strategies of resistance, the fact that we actually tend to reach for easy justifications of violence and non-violence, easy and not really very accurate historical examples. These are things we should worry about. But at the end of it, today we do seem to live in a world where the United States of America has defined an enemy combatant, someone whom they can kidnap from any country, from anyplace in the world and take for trial to America. An enemy combatant seems to be anybody who harbors thoughts of resistance. Well, if this is the definition, then I, for one, am an enemy combatant. Thank you. AMY GOODMAN: That was Arundhati Roy, speaking at the War Crimes Tribunal held now in Istanbul, Turkey. It has just wrapped up earlier today. Special thanks to Deep Dish TV for today's footage. http://www.democracynow.org http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/27/1335230 ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Be a friend to the oppressed and an enemy to the oppressor" --Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib (as)\ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html \ http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_comments/766_0_15_0_C/ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/ \ \ } ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 00:57:13 +0100 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Trevor Joyce Subject: SoundEye: participants & blandishments Comments: To: brITISH-POETS@JISCMAIL.AC.UK, Poetryetc and poetics , UKPOETRY@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed [Apologies if you get multiples of this message] The SoundEye Festival starts next Monday, July 4th., in Cork, Ireland,=20= and continues until the following Sunday, July 10th. If you're within=20 striking distance, just drop everything and join us. The weather's=20 (currently) beautiful, the food and drink are excellent, the scenery is=20= breathtaking, the company unmissable, and we've added a few more=20 performers to what was already shaping up to be a great week of poetry=20= and music. So, what are you waiting for? The latest lineup: Charles Bernstein Carlos Blackburn Sean Bonney Mair=E9ad Byrne cris cheek Kelvin Corcoran Alison Croggon Ian Davidson Angharad Davies Richard Deming Allen Fisher Fergal Gaynor Matthew Geden Bill Griffiths David Grubbs Lee Harwood Randolph Healy Fanny Howe Susan Howe International Necronautical Society Trevor Joyce Nancy Kuhl Tom Leonard David Lloyd Nathaniel Mackey Peter Manson Hugh Maxton Billy Mills Kuba Mokrosinski Wendy Mulford Amir Or Maggie O'Sullivan Michael Parsons Peter Riley Fiona Sampson Maurice Scully Michael Smith Geoffrey Squires Edel Sullivan TNWK* Keith Tuma Catherine Wagner Catherine Walsh Mark Weiss John Wilkinson Yang Lian =00 Event tickets: =808/=805, Day tickets: =8016/=8010, Festival tickets: = =8090/=8055= ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:38:53 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinksy Subject: Re: Blackbox submissions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hey vern hope yer ok long time ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:43:43 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinksy Subject: Fw: Re: Tsunami Relief Benefit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit A Gathering of the Tribes & Foot Hills Publishing Are proud to present A Book Release Party! For In the Arms of Words: Poems for Tsunami Relief Edited by Amy Ouzoonian Published by Foot Hills Publishing/Sherman Asher Press Thursday, June 30th 5-7 pm Featuring contributors… Steve Dalachinsky * Eve Packer *James Warner Alan Semerdjian * Irene O’Garden * Nancy Mercado Jennifer Hill-Kaucher * Ravi Shankar * Valery Oisteanu Sharon Olinka *Jesus Papoleto Melendez Thaddeus Rutkowski * Roberta Gould Donald Lev * Frank Simone Bob Holman * Kirpal Gordon and Claire Daly R.M. Engelhardt * Amy Ouzoonian Thomas Baier * Andrew Riutta Also, poems by absent contributors read by special guests At the Bowery Poetry Club 308 Bowery take the F train to 2nd Ave or the 4,5, or 6 to Bleecker St. For more info, call: (212) 674-3778 or (212) 614-0505 Copies of “In the Arms of Words: Poems for Tsunami Relief” will be available for sale. All proceeds of sales and donations will go to OXFAM and Red Cross towards aid for survivors of the Tsunami. skyplums@juno.com wrote: amy i need it in the body is that possible? not an attachment and by tonight out now til 8 pm l sd Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:36:31 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joe Brennan Subject: "You Sold Us Your Souls. Now We Want Your Home And Your Babies." Comments: To: corp-focus@lists.essential.org, WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Click here: The Assassinated Press http://www.theassassinatedpress.com/ The Kleptocracy Has Spoken: "You Sold Us Your Souls. Now We Want Your Home And Your Babies." Justices Affirm Property Seizures; 5-4 Ruling Backs Forced Sales for Private Development: Combat Pedophelia: Military Hires Private Firm To Target Your Children As War Fodder: Outsourced Data Firm Run By Pedophiles, Child Pornograhers. Did the Pentagon Know? "Damn Right We Did.": American Youth Held In High Esteem. "I'd Like To See Some Of These Little Motherfuckers Shipped To Iraq Myself."---My Neighbor: Kindasleezie Rice Speaks Out Against Land Seizures In Zimbabwe For Poor Blacks, But Keeps Mouth Shut On Seizure Of Property By Kleptocracy In U.S.: China To Build New U.S. Based Headquarters On Land On Long Island Seized Through Eminent Domain: By CHAZ OOZE They hang the man and flog the woman That steal the goose from off the common, But let the greater villain loose That steals the common from the goose. ".....at a time when I am speaking to you about the paradox of desire -- in the sense that different goods obscure it -- you can hear outside the awful language of power. There's no point in asking whether they are sincere or hypocritical, whether they want peace of whether they calculate the risks. The dominating impression as such a moment is that something that may pass for a prescribed good; information addresses and captures impotent crowds to whom it is poured forth like a liquor that leaves them dazed as they move toward the slaughter house. One might even ask if one would allow the cataclysm to occur without first giving free reign to this hubbub of voices...." ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:10:15 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: William A Sylvester Subject: Kimmelman & Gary Snyder MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII An epigraph from Gary Snyder, for Kimmelman's poem "First Year" in his book SOMEHOW: O loves of long ago hello again all of us together with all our loves and children twining and knotting through each other-- intricate, chaotic, dense. Kimmelman's daughter Jane appears from her first year to her eleventh year, and in the poem "Letter to my Dead Brother": There is a connection that takes the place of holding one another. I remember you when Jane put her arms around my neck. I feel her warm breath, the blood coursing along Intricate, chaotic, dense--the songs for our loves and each other are shared with our descriptions. The last poem in the book, "Late December" Thin ice along the fragile branch heading low of its own weight, wind and moon tighten the new darkness. Twining, knotting, connection, holding, tighten...these patterns among others run throughout the book, where the poetic cousins from Chaucer to Zukofky include Ronald Johnson and Gary Snyder, and in a more general evocive way, William Bronk: The light at least was not to be dismissed. But how is Kimmelman distinguished from these "cousins." ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 00:52:48 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Wanda Phipps Subject: Wanda Phipps interviewed on KPFA Radio MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you happen to be in the northern California area or want to pick up the show elsewhere on streaming audio I'll be appearing for a half hour (reading poems plus an interview) airing this Wednesday, June 29th on Jack Foley's Cover to Cover Show on KPFA Radio That's 3:30-4:00pm Pacific Standard Time 6:30-7:00pm Eastern Standard Time and you can figure out the rest Part two of the interview continues next week on Wed. July 6th for another half hour show at the same time (KPFA broadcasts on 94.1 FM and KPFB 89.3 FM, Berkeley, and KFCF 88.1 FM, Fresno, California) If you aren't in California or you're just away from a radio you can get the station live anywhere on your computer check out directions on KPFA's Streaming Audio webpage: http://www.kpfa.org/listen/ -- Wanda Phipps Wake-Up Calls: 66 Morning Poems my first full-length book of poetry has just been released by Soft Skull Press available at the Soft Skull site: http://www.softskull.com/detailedbook.php?isbn=1-932360-31-X and on Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/193236031X/ref=rm_item and don't forget to check out my website MIND HONEY http://www.mindhoney.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 07:50:33 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Pierre Joris Subject: Recent Nomadics blog activities Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Recent postings to the NOMADICS blog: Scheherazade's French translators DoomsDayDiary Handke & Milo=C5=A1evi=C4=87 4th July in London =E2=80=94 PLACE A query re poetics ___________________________________________________________ The poet: always in partibus infidelium =E2=80=94 Paul Celan ___________________________________________________________ Pierre Joris 244 Elm Street Albany NY 12202 h: 518 426 0433 c: 518 225 7123 o: 518 442 40 85 email: joris@albany.edu http://www.albany.edu/~joris/ blog:http://pjoris.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:22:11 -0400 Reply-To: Mike Kelleher Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mike Kelleher Organization: Just Buffalo Literary Center Subject: JUST BUFFALO E-NEWSLETTER 06-27-05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NEW! KID'S PHOTO & CREATIVE WRITING CAMP! Creative Writing, Darkroom AND Digital Photography!! Kids ages 10-15 ? Tuesday and Thursday, July 5 - 28, 10AM-1PM $200 member / $225 non-member [single week signups available; please call for details.] This is the first joint program between CEPA and Just Buffalo. Members of CEPA, Just Buffalo and Big Orbit Gallery can get the member rate. Filling fast. Sign up today by calling CEPA at 856-2717. HARLEM BOOK FAIR BUFFALO The Harlem Book Fair is Here! Traveling from Boston, San Diego and Baltimore, the Harlem Book Fair (HBF) graces Buffalo with its presence, in honor of the 2005 Niagara Movement Centennial Celebration. Look for an action-packed weekend of literary activities for you, your whole family and friends. Here's how the three days of events break down: Thursday, July 7 A Special Film Screening of the 2004 Sundance Film Festival award winning film, Brother -to - Brother. The film takes a trip with a young black man as he discovers the links to homosexuality within the Harlem Renasissance. The film starts at 7pm at the Amherst Theater. $10. Friday July 8 At 1pm there is a writers workshop, "Living Your Writing Dreams: An insiders Take on Becoming a Writer" at 617 Main Street, 3rd Floor Conference Room. $95 / $80 Just Buffalo Members. 8pm at the Statler Towers, HBF host their "A Buffalo Renaissance" themed gala. HBF imitates the legendary ambiance of Harlem's famous Cotton Club with Harlem Renaissance Review, an 18 peice band assembled from Colored Musicans Club. Accompanying the Harlem Renaissance Review is jazz vocalist Joyce Carolyne. There is also a performance by the American Dance Studio, dance lessons and a dance contest. This event salutes jazz and literary artist of the past and recognizes those in the present. Tickets: $50 or $75 (for 2) call Just Buffalo Literary Center (832-5400). Tix can also be purchased at Talking Leaves Book Stores or New World Records. Saturday July 9 >From 10am-6:30pm, in Lafayette Square there's a free celebration of literature at its finest, commemorating African American history. Storytelling, forums, seminars, national and local well-known authors, children events, and music are included in the all day free affair. Some of these events are as follows: Outdoor Vendor Book Fair - Local, regional and national authors. Author Presentation and Book Signings- Discussions and Q&A with local, regional and national authors. The Book Expo Café- Author readings, beverages, and coffee tasting. Health and Wellness Pavillion- Local and national author readings on body and soul. Forums A Matter of Race Equality and Leadership - A debate on the Niagara Movement Group and the leadership of W.E.B. Du Bois and Booker T. Washington. Getting Published - Authors and publishers discuss tips on getting published Relationships 2005: Wanted: A Few Good Men and Women - Discuss finding the right mate. The Spoken Word - Our Perspective, Our Words, Our Way - Discuss the evolution of tradition storytelling into rap. Seminars Your Heritage - Want to research your heritage? Here's how to do it. Learn from the best. Book Clubs - Meet with local book club organizers and lean how to start your own club. Author Discussion - Lorna Hill discusses Zora Hurton's book, Their Eyes Are Watching God and Hurston's niece, Lucy Ann Hurston, discusses "So You Can Speak Again: The Life of Zora Neal Hurston." Children's Events Storytelling - Karima Amin, performs, and entertains children. Show and Tell - Children bring their favorite books share why they like the book. Buffalo Reads Coaltion Family Literacy - children activities and giveaways. For more information call (881-6066) or visit www.hbfb.org. HARLEM BOOKFAIR WORKSHOP LIVING YOUR WRITING DREAMS: AN INSIDER'S TAKE ON BECOMING A WRITER, with Alan Steinberg Friday July 8th 1-4:30 pm Location: Market Arcade, 617 Main Street, 3rd Floor Conference Room Cost: $95 / $80 Just Buffalo Members Featuring best-selling author/journalist/screenwriter ALAN STEINBERG, whose work has been featured in print (New York Times, USA TODAY, Washington Post, People, Inside Sports); on TV (Donahue, Larry King, Dateline, Inside Edition, Leno, Letterman); and radio nationwide. For more information and applications log on to http://www.hbfb.org or call 716 - 881 - 6066. Harlem Book Fair Buffalo Committee: Just Buffalo Literary Center, Black Capital Network, Buffalo Convention and Visitors Bureau, Buffalo & Erie County Public Library, Melonya Johnson, Harlem Book Fair /QBR Book Review. IF ALL OF BUFFALO READ THE SAME BOOK This year's title, The Invention of Solitude, by Paul Auster, is available at area bookstores. All books purchased at Talking Leaves Books will benefit Just Buffalo. Paul Auster will visit Buffalo October 5-6. A reader's discussion guide is available on the Just Buffalo website. Presented in conjunction with Hodgson Russ LLP, WBFO 88.7 FM and Talking Leaves Books. For sponsorship opportunities (and there are many), please contact Laurie Torrell or Mike Kelleher at 832-5400. COMMUNITY LITERARY EVENTS Several current and former buffalo community members will be participating in the following in Cork, Ireland: SoundEye Cork International Poetry Festival ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:06:58 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Adam Fieled Subject: "Poetry Incarnation '05" in Philly MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hey there...if anyone's interested in showing up for a major poetry event, the Philly Free School (www.artrecess.blogspot.com) is presenting "Poetry Incarnation '05" at the Khyber in Philly (2nd & Chestnut) on Tuesday, July 5, at 9 pm. We have 40 readers lined up, including C.A. Conrad, Frank Sherlock, Jenn McCreary, Will Esposito, Lauren Ireland, Kyle Conner, Adam Fieled, J.C. Todd, and a slew of others. We've booked downstairs at the Khyber for an entire night, & the reading should go on until the wee wee hours. this event is a tribute to & continuation of the original "Poetry Incarnation", which took place at London's Royal Albert Hall on June 11, 1965. This was the reading that introduced Allen Ginsberg & Gregory Corso to Swinging London. An endless, formless, egalitarian, exhilarating experience, as we want our P.I. '05 to be. We're charging $5 at the door & think the event should be worth it! Any questions, contact Adam Fieled @ (610) 608-2094/afieled@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:16:09 -0700 Reply-To: robintm@tf.org Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Robin Tremblay-McGaw Organization: Trauma Foundation Subject: wanted: a copy of Boone's My Walk with Bob MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear All-- I am desperately seeking to buy a copy of Bruce Boone's My Walk with Bob. If anyone has a copy they are interested in selling, please backchannel me at robinjtm@earthlink.net Thanks, Robin Tremblay-McGaw ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:51:10 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Charles Bernstein Subject: Close Listening / WPS1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Close Listening is a new radio show I am doing=20 for WPS1 (http://wps1.org), in association with=20 PennSound, similar in format to the ongoing=20 Studio 111 series at Penn (and an extension of LINEbreak). The shows have just begun to broadcast on WPS1;=20 the first 10 shows are also now available, to preview, at PennSound: http://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Studio-111.html Edition #1: Tracie Morris Reading Tracie Morris reads recent work and performs=20 several sound poems. Morris is one of the=20 preeminent performance poets in the U.S.. She is=20 the author of Intermission and has give=20 performances throughout the US and in Europe and=20 Africa. Morris, who lives in Brooklyn, is=20 completing a doctorate in the Performance Studies=20 program at NYU. Over the past several years she=20 has taught at Sarah Lawrence College,=20 SUNY-Purchase, Naropa, Queen College, and the=20 Center for Worker Education. She is a Fellow at=20 Cave Canem, the national organization supporting=20 African-American poetry. In the Fall, Morris will=20 be teaching at Eastern Michigan University. She lives in Brooklyn. Edition #2: Tracie Morris Interview Tracie Morris in conversation with Charles=20 Bernstein on the genesis of her sound poetry, on=20 the status of the performed poem on the politics=20 of poetic form, on her start as a slam poet, on=20 Brooklyn, and on living performatively (with a shout out to J. L. Austin). Edition #3: Tan Lin Reading Tan Lin gives an ambient reading of his recent=20 work 7 Controlled Vocabularies: sit back, relax,=20 breathe deeply. Lin is the author of Lotion=20 Bullwhip Giraffe, published by Sun & Moon in 1996=20 and BlipSoak01, published last year by Atelos=20 Press. Lin's installations and performances have=20 been presented in galleries and poetry spaces in=20 New York and around the country. He teaches=20 English at New Jersey City State University. Lin=20 lives in Manhattan, in the shadow on Pennsylvania Station. Edition #4: Tan Lin Interview Tan Lin in an ambient conversation with Charles=20 Bernstein about originality, boredom,=20 appropriation, performance, art, teaching, T.S.=20 Eliot, his Chinese parents, and his infant baby. Edition #5: Nick Piombino Interview Nick Piombino in conversation with Charles=20 Bernstein on blogging, on the poet's career, on=20 competition and hierarchy, and on appreciating=20 art through the temporary suspension of judgment.=20 Nick Piombino is the author of Poems, Boundary of=20 Blur, Theoretical Objects, Light Street, and=20 Hegelian Honeymoon. A practicing psychoanalyst,=20 Piobmino's blog, Fait Accompli, can be accessed=20 at nickpiombino.blogspot.com. He lives in Brooklyn. Edition #6: Ted Greenwald Reading New York native Ted Greenwald reads some of his=20 best-known poems from Common Sense along with new=20 works. Greenwald is the author, most recently, of=20 The Up and Up, from Atelos Press. His many other=20 books of poems include Word of Mouth, You Bet!,=20 Common Sense, and Jumping the Line. Edition #7: Erica Hunt Reading Erica Hunt performs some of her recent poetry.=20 Hunt has published three collections of poems =AD=20 Local History, Arcade, and Piece Logic. She is=20 also the president of the Twentieth-First Century=20 Foundation, a foundation that supports black community change. Edition #8: Erica Hunt Interview Erica Hunt in conversation with Charles Bernstein=20 on how poetry can (and can't) fix a broken world,=20 on poetry as social and community praxis, on=20 identity poetics, and on jazz. Hunt has published=20 three collections of poems =AD Local History,=20 Arcade, and Piece Logic. She is also the=20 president of the Twentieth-First Century=20 Foundation, a foundation that supports black community change. Edition #9: Pierre Joris Reading Pierre Joris reads recent poems. Joris is the=20 author of A Nomad Poetics, a collection of essays=20 and Poasis, a collection of his poems, both from=20 Wesleyan. He is also the translator of Paul Celan=20 and Pablo Picasso, and editor, with Jerome=20 Rothenberg, of Poems for the Millennium =AD the=20 major anthology of innovative world poetry. Edition #10: Pierre Joris Interview Joris in conversation with Charles Bernstein on=20 nomadic poetics, translation, writing in the=20 "other" tongue, international poetics, and=20 Abdelwahab Meddeb's The Malady of Islam. Joris is=20 the author of A Nomad Poetics, a collection of=20 essays and Poasis, a collection of his poems,=20 both from Wesleyan. He is also the translator of=20 Paul Celan and Pablo Picasso, and editor, with=20 Jerome Rothenberg, of Poems for the Millennium =AD=20 the major anthology of innovative world poetry. http://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Studio-111.html http://wps1.org * for new additions to PennSound go to our updated "New" page: http://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/new.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:37:31 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Tom Beckett Subject: My Interview with K. Silem Mohammad MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit is up at http://willtoexchange.blogspot.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 04:46:16 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Francis Raven Subject: Inverted Curvatures by Francis Raven In-Reply-To: <191.423a259e.2ff3636b@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Shameless promotion, check out my forthcoming book: \if your email does not support html please refer to the following link: http://www.spuytenduyvil.net/ravenletter.htm Welcome to Spuyten Duyvil Limited Editions Our third project: Inverted Curvatures by Francis Raven Cover and insert art by Brian Lucas order deadline Oct. 31 2005 advance limited signed edition $50 We are bringing authors and artists together to provide our audience with uniquely printed, visually dynamic (as well as digitally projected) items outside the narrow confines of the retail world. 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Please purchase a copy of Inverted Curvatures by Francis Raven with statigraphic images by Brian Lucas, and help us build a successful meeting place for painters, authors, poets and filmmakers. We feel strongly about the work that we bring to the public. You and your friends can help us out. Thanks for supporting Spuyten Duyvil events and publications. Without your advance support, our authors and artists would not be able to further their vision, inspiration and priceless labor, thus entering the culture at large, thus entering the conversation at large. Help make this advance edition a success by forwarding this link and conversation to other interested people as well. Thanks! Tod Thilleman Publisher Spuyten Duyvil 800-886-5304 http://www.spuytenduyvil.net 42 St. John's Place Brooklyn, NY 11217 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 05:38:06 -0400 Reply-To: nudel-soho@mindspring.com Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Harry Nudel Subject: Experimental..Let's do the Elemental... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been mulling over M. Perloff's interv. posted on the Po List... "Experimental" po..my iamb foot...ain't this what we used to call 'Acadamicism" or looking for a less clunky word "Formalism" what exactly is the experiment in endlessly repeating the failed orthodoxies of the 20th century.... surrealism..to...ladiladilo... sometimes i feel sorry for Anthony Hecht... we all need an enemy longs as it's not ourselves... drn... ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:19:33 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Daniel Bouchard Subject: Dick Cheney dies after reading The POKER # 6 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed ( that is, he JUST dies...) "V.P.'s ticker goes kerplunk(!) while negotiating excellent new issue of little poetry mag." -- prominent tabloid "bound to happen" ["perfect bound to happen"; edited version] -- liberal weekly "a further indictment against all things not us" -- conservative rag "whoever leaked this 118-page perfect bound, no-color little magazine into the West Wing is going to pay a severe penalty" -- anonymous White House axe-sharpening source "First Lady reconsiders campaign for literacy" -- Ladies Home Journal -- end spam -- YES, a new issue of The Poker is slowly working its way into the cultural circulatory system via "media mail" Send your anticoagulant in the form of a subscription check to the editorial office. Here's what we got: New Poetry by - Jackson Mac Low - Joe Elliot - Rodney Koeneke - Deborah Meadows - Rodrigo Toscano - Nancy Kuhl - Fitz-Greene Halleck - Alan Bernheimer - Douglas Rothschild - Rachel Blau DuPlessis - Lee Ann Brown - Daniel Bouchard - Charles Baudelaire (Translated by Keith Waldrop) - Rae Armantrout - Bill Luoma - John Latta & New Prose: Mitch Highfill on Jackson Mac Low Jennifer Moxley on Robert Creeley Benjamin Friedlander on Fitz-Greene Halleck Steve Evans on divers topics and poets (it's called "Field Notes") Get off the glue; click off the blogs! Get your copy today. Issues are $10 each; a subscription is 3 for $24. Send to: Daniel Bouchard PO Box 390408 Cambridge, MA 02139 US hey, Bush, it was NOT worth it! Now we're stuck there, you dumb motherfucker, you've created a Parris Island for terrorists in Iraq. Read the Poker! Zeppelin rules! - daniel bouchard Please repost this far and wide. ><>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel Bouchard bouchard@mit.edu "We must love One another or Die, motherfucker!" -- W.H. Auden <>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><>> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:33:23 -0400 Reply-To: kevin thurston Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: kevin thurston Subject: Buck Downs Interview @ Narrowhouse Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline ::apologies for cross posting:: Buck Downs situates himself in relation to mail-art and poetry at www.narrowhouserecordings.com (click on double.wide:reviews/interviews) that's it --=20 SUICIDE, LLC=20 when life just isn't an option I don't think the personal lyric will make a come-back because it's harder and harder to make the personal lyric representative. Rather, poetry will turn more "public" with respect to its interests. m perloff ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:56:12 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Re: My Interview with K. Silem Mohammad In-Reply-To: <191.423a259e.2ff3636b@aol.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > is up at http://willtoexchange.blogspot.com I like this interview with Kasey! Puts the heart - and a few other skills - into Flarf. Congrats Mr. Beckett. & Kasey. I see more - scrolling down - more poets (interviewed) to come. Stephen V Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:24:02 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: David Applegate Subject: An Open Letter Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dear Dmhxi, =20 The waters of chaos have rinsed me from my perch. Amid the rest of the = washed-out trash, I've begun to solidify a world-view, a concept of = human-nature. In two words, "unsaved, unsavable." Deep in the shit a = seedling bursts. =20 From Nietzsche's posthumous fragments: =20 "Perhaps the entire evolution of the spirit is a question of the body; it = is the HISTORY of the development of A HIGHER BODY that emerges into our = SENSIBILITY. The organic is rising to yet higher levels. Our lust for = knowledge of nature is a means through which the body desires to perfect = itself. Or rather: hundreds of thousands of experiments are made to = change the nourishment, the mode of living and the dwelling of the body; = consciousness and evaluations of the body, all kinds of pleasure and = displeasure, are SIGNS OF THESE CHANGES AND EXPERIMENTS. IN THE LONG RUN, = IT IS NOT A QUESTION OF MAN AT ALL: HE IS TO BE OVERCOME." =20 I'd guess Celan snagged the end of his poem 'Threadsuns' from the above = passage. =20 =20 Threadsuns over the grayblack wasteness. A tree- high thought strikes the light-tone: there are still songs to sing beyond humankind. =20 Spending a life attempting to solve the 'great problems' is a waste of = time. Our philosophical problems arise out of an innate inadequecy. = What's needed instead is the embrace of the continual experimentation = which will eventually destroy the human race and give rise to a new form. = =20 =20 Check out what my new guy Klossowski has to say about it: =20 "THE BODY IS A PRODUCT OF CHANCE; it is nothing but the LOCUS where a = group of individuated impulses confront each other so as to produce this = interval that constitutes a HUMAN LIFE, impulses WHOSE SOLE AMBITION IS TO = DE-INDIVIDUATE THEMSELVES." =20 & later: =20 "Once the body is recognized as the product of the impulses (subjected, = organized, hierarchized), its cohesion with the self becomes fortuitous. = The impulses CAN BE PUT TO USE BY A NEW BODY, and are presupposed in the = search for new conditions." =20 Very curious interpretation of humanity on the level of cell-life. Almost = seems to reach toward contemporary genetics research (Klossowski text is = from the 60s). I hope some of this is useful to you. I've been unable to = write for some time, having classic fears; "It's over for me," etc. Under = the strain of Badiou, Agamben, Nietzsche, and now Klossowski (not to = mention Celan) I have been incapable of developing a productive stance in = relation to the creative endeavor. "Experimentation toward death?" If = our experiments are meant to carry humanity into its next phase or = incarnation they might not be wasted. No salvation, but some kind of = continuity. The appeal of early 20th century Futurism to today's artists: = proposals of radical experimentation in every possible sphere, embrace of = technology & continual advancement. Also, brutal irony in that all human = experiments lead directly to the eradication of humanity, its advancement = toward another, alien mode. =20 =20 Stay spattered, brother. =20 With love, Hdkox =20 =20 =20 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:03:34 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinksy Subject: Re: Close Listening / WPS1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hey how bout interviewing some of us lost n.y. second stringers we're just as good as the rest ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:34:02 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: Khan Yunis rapper trio says music, not violence will end occupation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Khan Yunis rapper trio says music, not violence will end occupation By The Associated Press KHAN YUNIS, Gaza Strip - Three young Palestinians say there's a better way to oppose the Israeli occupation than the violence that they worry tarnishes their people's image for too many in the West. They are relying on rap music. Their band PR, or Palestinian Rappers, rejects violence and instead dramatizes the Palestinians' plight in songs with names like "Freedom" and "Our Screams." "Rap music was founded in the United States, so by singing rap we can't be called terrorists," says band member Mohammed Farrah, 19, who goes by the nicknames "D.R." and "Dynamic Rapper." "The only way for us to fight occupation is through rap singing." Farrah and fellow band members Moutaz Hwehy, or "Mezo," and Mahmud Abdallah, "Bond," grew up on MTV, where they listened to Tupac, Eminem and other rappers sing about poverty, violence and other problems. They decided to explore their people's ordeal through rap, too. "Where's the freedom?" the rappers ask in their song "Freedom." "I'm the son of Salam, I was born a long time ago but I'm still asking who I am. I exist. To be or not to be?" The band got together in 2002. Even now, they still cut a curious figure in the conservative Islamic society of Gaza, where people stare at the spiky hair and American rapper garb of basketball shirts, baggy cotton pants, and Nike sneakers and hats. They meet regularly in a small room in the crowded town of Khan Yunis to blast their music, but perform only twice a year. They performed in Ireland last year, and dream of appearing in the United States. But in poverty-stricken Gaza, they haven't been able to put together enough money to record their music. see also How is the Islamic faith delivering the message from Allah through rap? True Believer From ages past music in some form has been used to Praise the One. In Qur'an we find "Allah is beautiful and loves beauty." Allah (swt) did not give birds their song to suppress nor did He create the winds that blow through rocks or trees to create beautiful sounds to be ignored or not copied. http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/tx/documentaries/islamichiphop.shtml http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2004/10/31664.php Hip Hop: the subliminal criminal: Pick up a stone http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2005/05/40536.php and Hip hop in the holy land "He's an MC, I'm MC. We're all doing music. If we're Arabs - if we're Jews - that doesn't matter" - rapper Quami De La Fox http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2005/03/39516.php Islamic hip Hop dred-i 3 track CD: "Revolutionary Crunk Muzik: The Black Panther Party Meets Soul Train". http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2004/10/31600.php and Hurricane Angel "luckily, i was half cat": http://omnipresentrecords.com/ishaq/?media_id=8 and http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html Mp3 Download here: http://ottawa.indymedia.ca/en/2005/05/951.shtml http://bc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/1886/index.php and UKHIP HOP: Yoshi Interview Then I just get home, sit down and make the concepts in my head into reality, and watch how they never cease to change and evolve once they're out of my head, and how no idea or concept no matter how good it is, will stay completely the same in your mind. John Coltrane spoke about the same thing with regards to getting the music in his head out into the real world of sound. But anyway, technically I use my computer, I got a mixer, a nice mic, and a Korg Keyboard, two nice monitors and a compressor which doesn't work right now. It's all about what you do with it though, what's in your mind. http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2005/06/41736.php http://www.nefisa.co.uk * http://www.brightonhiphop.com * http://www.muslimyouth.net http://www.ukhh.com/features/interviews/yoshi/index.html and CFUV interview with Lawrence Ytzhak Braithwaite pt 1 download Max Sloan has a conversation author Lawrence ytzhak Braithwaite on witchhunts, gangs, terrorist, gentrifcation and fear culture on Sad and Beautiful World/ fri 16 may 2003 http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2005/06/42117.php or http://bc.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/2640 See also: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/593814.html ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Be a friend to the oppressed and an enemy to the oppressor" --Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib (as)\ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html \ http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_comments/766_0_15_0_C/ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/ \ \ } ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:03:40 -0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Chris Stroffolino Subject: Re: Close Listening / WPS1 Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit hey steve--- don't sell yourself short. i get the same "second stringer" blues too--- charles being so good at getting the means of production and us not making his "a" list (or even "zed") for whatever reasons can be very depressing.... but there's gotta be somebody else, somewhere, maybe with a good business promo sense who will dig us??? okay, back to don quixote... C ---------- >From: Steve Dalachinksy >To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >Subject: Re: Close Listening / WPS1 >Date: Wed, Jun 29, 2005, 12:03 PM > > hey how bout interviewing some of us lost n.y. second stringers > > > we're just as good as the rest ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:53:20 -0400 Reply-To: az421@freenet.carleton.ca Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Rob McLennan Subject: The Word Lounge Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT check out The WordLounge (www.thewordlounge.com) run by Marnie Woodrow & Eliza Clark (Toronto) (from the site): What is The WordLounge? The WordLounge is an energetic online workshop for fiction writers. High-speed and thorough, this individualized editorial approach is directed by professional, practicing writers. The result for you: a stack of critiqued manuscript pages by the end of each session. The concept is simple: register for a specific workshop and receive quality editorial feedback fast, within three days, one on one via email. The WordLounge is for people serious about writing good fiction. Deadline-driven and positive, it will instill creative commitment and focus. Miss the weekly deadline and you miss out on that week's critique. The Lounge features essays on writing and publishing, plus tips, techniques and book recommendations. "The most regretful people on earth are those who felt the call to creative work, who felt their own creative power restive and uprising, and gave to it neither power nor time." --Mary Oliver -- poet/editor/pub. ... ed. STANZAS mag & side/lines: a new canadian poetics (Insomniac)...pub., above/ground press ...coord.,SPAN-O + ottawa small press fair ...9th coll'n - what's left (Talon) ...c/o RR#1 Maxville ON K0C 1T0 www.track0.com/rob_mclennan * http://robmclennan.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 22:58:25 +0100 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: LADKIN Subject: Adjunct and Edinburgh Review on American Poetry Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Ladies and gentlemen, Many of you will know how delighted I am to be=20 able to inform you of the following, Peter Manson's Adjunct: An=20 Undigest and 'the darkness surrounds us': American poetry, a collection=20= of articles and poetry are out now. We have been waiting a long time=20 for these and in the case of Adjunct particularly, we know many people=20= have been waiting. ADJUNCT: AN UNDIGEST by PETER MANSON & =91the darkness surrounds us=92: AMERICAN POETRY [issue 114] edited by ROBIN PURVES AND SAM LADKIN. OUT NOW from the Edinburgh Review Available for =A35.99 each or =A310 for both including p&p within the = UK=20 [add =A32 postage for airmail abroad]. Available from Sam Ladkin, 72=20 Sedgwick Street, Cambridge, CB1 3AL, UK. Please email ladkin@gmail.com=20= to check I still have copies available. =91the darkness surrounds us=92: AMERICAN POETRY edited by Robin Purves and Sam Ladkin Contains... Stephen Thomson - Craft: Boats and Making in Olson=92s Maximus Poems Oliver Harris - =91Burroughs is a poet too, really=92: the Poetics of=20 Minutes to Go Malcolm Phillips - Frank O=92Hara Today Allen Fisher - THE DARKNESS SURROUNDS US: metonyms exemplified by four=20= American poets before and up to 1960 (John Ashbery, Robert Creeley,=20 Frank O'Hara and Gilbert Sorrentino). Sam Ladkin - =91as they wander estranged=92: Ed Dorn=92s Gunslinger John Wilkinson - A Tour of the State Capitol: Introducing the poems of=20= John Wieners Chris Goode - =91These facts are variously modified=92: American writers = in=20 an information economy [on Harry Mathews, Charles Bernstein, Harmony=20 Korine and Rene Ricard] Lee Spinks - Beginning from Limit: The Poetics of Being in the Poetry=20 of Mark Doty Robin Purves - American Change: A Note on Andrea Brady and the Language=20= of Consumption Keston Sutherland - For Carol Mirakove And poetry by ANDREA BRADY, CLARK COOLIDGE, HEATHER FULLER, WILLIAM=20 FULLER, RACHEL LODEN, BEN MARCUS, HARRY MATHEWS, CAROL MIRAKOVE and=20 JENNIFER MOXLEY. cover art by Tom Raworth ADJUNCT: AN UNDIGEST by PETER MANSON Seven years in accretion, Adjunct: an Undigest is a linguistic=20 autobiography, a compost of found and appropriated language stirred by=20= a random number table, a source-book of the contemporary avant-garde,=20 an extended fart joke, an apology, a book of the dead. Peter Manson=92s Adjunct truncates pens=92 jam nod cops unmanned-jet's art (words)(in)(there)(shell)(like) a bible for half-time =97 Tom Raworth Prose is dead. Be this instead. Imagine what you could do with how=20 unique it is. =97 Keston Sutherland By turns introspective and aggressive, controlled and entropic,=20 disquietingly elegiac and laugh-out-loud funny, Peter Manson=92s Adjunct=20= is one of the most exciting books I have read in years. In this one=20 work, Manson manages to triangulate the three most important tendencies=20= in recent writing: the =93new sentence=94 developed in Language Poetry, = the=20 appropriated texts of conceptual writing, and the chance procedures of=20= John Cage and Jackson Mac Low. =93Does the piece feel whole?=94 =93Is = this an=20 Undigest?=94 =93Is this ok?=94 =93What can I do?=94 =93Answer?=94 Yes, = and yes, and=20 yes: read. =97 Craig Dworkin I read the news today, oh boy. Peter Manson's mountainous heap of=20 linguistic detritus perfectly describes the universal overdrive mind of=20= the information age. Adjunct=92s sublime smallness deliciously describes=20= a day in the life. =97 Kenneth Goldsmith Enucleated m=92efflulgent, quick-on-its feet, fractal Self-Portrait=20 in-performance, spinning the language-mass-mess (Spoke-zone Voco=20 Eyesteak junk-shop hearages / Database Detritus Regurge / Flip Floss=20 Enviro- findings / Raw Ambient Verbiages / Dislo annotations) to a=20 Buzz-saw Burst-out work of Poly-engage(gorge)ment that emphatically=20 implements and navigates the dendritic contagions and iterations of its=20= immense, sustaining procedural and processual collaging of sourcings in=20= a viscerally, insistent sound/(re)sounding languaging project that=20 ramifies, throbs and agitates its mutilating humour, its unrelenting=20 passionate material constructuringness. =97 Maggie O=92Sullivan ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 19:44:08 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Tom Beckett Subject: Re: My Interview with K. Silem Mohammad MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/29/2005 12:56:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, steph484@PACBELL.NET writes: like this interview with Kasey! Puts the heart - and a few other skills - into Flarf. Congrats Mr. Beckett. & Kasey. I see more - scrolling down - more poets (interviewed) to come. Thank you, Stephen. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 20:30:20 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Charles Bernstein Subject: Basil King on Robert Creeley Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed [from Basil King] "The darkness surrounds us" I've read Pound's first encounter with Henry James. H.D. on her first meeting D.H. Lawrence. Picasso's love for Henri Rousseau, and I've seen Red Groom's painting of Dekooning's and Rothko's accidental meeting in Washington Square. But to this day Franz Kline meeting Robert Creeley is one of the most beautiful things that I have ever witnessed. Bob and I were drinking beer in one of the booths that lined the walls of the old Cedar Bar. Bob had recently moved back to the states and had stopped off in New York on his way to Black Mountain College. Bob was wearing the blue winter coat that Zukofsky had given him. He didn't have any money, and I had credit at the bar. It was late in the afternoon, and Franz Kline walked in and sat down next to me. Franz, meet Robert Creeley. Awe came over Kline's face. He shifted his weight, adjusted his brown hat, and took Bob's hands and held them. "I can't tell you how much your poetry means to me." Franz was still holding Bob's hands when Bob broke the silence. "Thank You." "The darkness surrounds us." Bob, you put a new light into the darkness, and we, that is all of us, thank you. --Basil King 6.27.05 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:39:23 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinksy Subject: Re: Close Listening / WPS1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thanks chris for the open support woulda backc'd this to ya but hey not just a short sale it's the whole damned disappointing game the utilitarian relationships if i got the word right this frustrating dance and how one chooses partners it's just mud ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:50:00 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: elen Subject: FW: Experimental Writing and Aesthetics (11/15/05; SW/TX PCA/ACA, 2/8/06-2/11/06) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please Post and Announce Call for Papers: Experimental Writing and Aesthetics Abstract/Proposals by 15 November 2005 Southwest/Texas Popular & American Culture Associations 27th Annual Conference Albuquerque, NM, February 8-11, 2006 Hyatt Regency Albuquerque 330 Tijeras Albuquerque, NM 87102 Phone: 1.505.842.1234 Fax: 1.505.766.6710 Panels now forming on topics related to Experimental Writing and Aesthetics in such areas as the aesthetics of experimental writing in any genre or in multi-genre/multi-media works including digital and graphic compositions involving language, the poetics of performance of experimental compositions, critical studies of experimental writers, etc. Creative writers interested in the selective creative writing readings panel should contact Jerry Bradley, Creative Writing Readings Chair, via in the early fall. Scholars, teachers, professionals, writers not affiliated with academic institutions, and others interested in experimental writing are encouraged to participate. Graduate students are also particularly welcome with award opportunities for best graduate papers. If you wish to organize your own panel, I will be happy to facilitate your scheduling needs. Send abstracts, papers, or proposals for panels with your email address by 15 November 2005: Hugh Tribbey, Experimental Writing and Aesthetics Chair Email: htribbey@mailclerk.ecok.edu Mailing Address: Dr. Hugh Tribbey Department of English and Languages East Central University 1100 E. 14th St. Ada, OK 74820 Phone: 580-310-5524; Fax: 580-436-3329 Conference Website: (updated regularly) ========================================================== From the Literary Calls for Papers Mailing List CFP@english.upenn.edu Full Information at http://cfp.english.upenn.edu or write Jennifer Higginbotham: higginbj@english.upenn.edu ========================================================== ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 01:06:11 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Steve Dalachinksy Subject: Re: FW: Experimental Writing and Aesthetics (11/15/05; SW/TX PCA/ACA, 2/8/06-2/11/06) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit experi mental expirations ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 01:07:41 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Nico Vassilakis Subject: Subtext Seattle - Christian BOK & Nico Vassilakis Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subtext continues its monthly series of experimental writing with readings by Christian BOk and Nico Vassilakis at Richard Hugo House on Wednesday, July 6, 2005. Donations for admission will be taken at the door on the evening of the performance. The reading starts at 7:30pm. === Christian BOk is the author of _Eunoia_ (Coach House Books, 2001), a bestselling work of experimental literature, which has won the Griffin Prize for Poetic Excellence (2002). _Crystallography_ (Coach House Press, 1994), his first book of poetry, has also earned a nomination for the Gerald Lampert Memorial Award (1995). BOk has created artificial languages for two television shows: Gene Roddenberry's Earth: Final Conflict and Peter Benchley's Amazon. BOk has also earned many accolades for his virtuoso performances of sound poetry. His conceptual artworks (which include books built out of Rubik's Cubes and Lego Bricks) have appeared at the Marianne Boesky Gallery in New York City as part of the exhibit Poetry Plastique. BOk currently teaches in the Department of English at the University of Calgary. http://www.chbooks.com/online/eunoia/index.html http://www.chbooks.com/online/eunoia/new_ennui.html http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/bok http://www.writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Bok.html === Nico Vassilakis lives in Seattle. Recent writing can be found in Bird Dog, Traverse, 3rd Bed, 5 trope. Nico has a DVD recently available titled Concrete: Movies. He is also working on a play about Morton Feldman. With compass and pencil he is drafting his way through dread. Ron Silliman writes: Nico Vassilakis writes a very clean line. There are, of course, as many reasons to not want a clean line as there might be to desire one. Like rhyme or the tub-thumping metrics of iambic pentameter, the form insinuates a vision of unmediated & harmonious existence that is patently a lie. Vassilakis does a superb job in . of using just such possibilities against themselves. Sort of an anti-Moxley, Vassilakis's irony meter has arrived at a throbbing red maximum. "Meanness is allowed to fester / And it will ruin the spine" is an absolutely fabulous moment in this regard. It is difficult to imagine how an individual could ever hope to write much better than that. Many web links are available to Nico's work, including: http://www.ubu.com/contemp/vass/vass.html === The future Subtext 2005 schedule is: August 2005 Rusty Morrison (Bay Area) & Christine Deavel For info on these & other Subtext events, see our website: http://www.speakeasy.org/~subtext ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:22:37 -0400 Reply-To: h.c@earthlink.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Holly Crawford Subject: Re: AC:Hospitality Suite--A Critical Space MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Lillian Fellmann and I will be hosting a space for hanging out and critical discussion at the Pool Art Fair in NY, in Room 722. Also, I will be installing my Open Adoption for Art--Looking for a New Relationship--room 723 (this is a performance/installation/collaborative project. Come by an give a conceptually abstact painting a name and a history) My information at www.art-poetry.info/ Nothing is for sale! AC:Collaborative, an online art journal will be hosting its first Hospitality Suite at the POOL Art Fair. Come by! Pool Art Fair, July 7-10, The Solita Soho Hotel, Room 722 159 Grand Street New York, NY 10002 (Located between Lafayette Street & Center St.) AC:Collaborative Hospitality Suite is a space for critical discussion around the interrogation of collaboration and collaborative art practices, relaxing, and events. Everybody is invited to participate in this collaborative experience. The Hospitality Suite is open at all times during the fair. Come by for tea and talk, sharing and exchanging, initiating and inspiring. Lillian Fellmann, the Co-Editor of AC:Collaborative, will be present throughout the fair. We will post audio and other material to the journal’s website from the Hospitality Suite during the POOL Art Fair. Nothing in the suite is for sale. AC wants to connect and work together with artists, critics, curators, and everyone else who is interested in any aspect of collaborative art, from any field. Visit our website www.artcircles.org Holly Crawford, Ph.D. Publisher and Co-Editor hc@artcircles.org ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:18:56 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Stephen Vincent Subject: Peach Recreate - or, Mom & the Peach Comments: To: Allen Bramhall , Alli Warren , Barrett Watten , Bill Berkson , "Brian Kim Stefans [arras.net]" , Burt Kimmelman , Carla Harryman , charles alexander , Charles Amarkhanian , Christine Murray , Chukwuma Azuonye , D G & C V Kennedy , Dana Ward , David Hadbawnik , David Hess , David Larsen , Del Ray Cross , Eileen Tabios , Eliot Weinberger , Ellen Zweig , Felix Okeke-Ezigbo , Francis Raven , George Albon , George Evans , Gloria Frym , "Hank A. Lazer" , Hilton Obenzinger , "J. Vengua" , Jerry Martien , John Latta , John Norton , "K. Silem Mohammad" , kari edwards , Kit Robinson , Koichiro Yamauchi , Larry Felson , Lyn Hejinian , Mac McGinnes , Magdalena Zurawski , Maria Damon , Mark Weiss , Mary Burger , Meredith Quartermain , Michael Rothenberg , Patrick Herron , Robert Gl=?ISO-8859-1?B?/A==?=ck , Ron Silliman , Saneeetee3@aol.com, shanna compton , Sheila Murphy , Stephanie Young , Steve Benson , Steve Dickison , Steve Woodall , Tanya Brolaski , Terry Winch , Tim Peterson , Timothy Yu , Tom Raworth , travis ortiz , Bob Hershon Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable When I was in my twenties and early thirties - before I got taken by being = a publisher - I was deeply involved in poetry-in-the schools programs, (creating exercises for classing, administering, etc.) as well as teaching in various colleges. After loving it, I burnt out on it and turned to working with committed artists, authors and poets on making books. Lately, now out of publishing - at least for the moment - I am, apparently, back into it, or, much to my delight, this little event below happened recently, which I feel compelled 'to share' among poets and friends! Enjoy: Mom & the Peach =20 Friday evening I went to Richmond to have dinner and visit with my mom - wh= o is now 89. When young her aspiration was to be a writer - in fact, during her twenties and thirties, she wrote and published both short stories and articles. However, fate and four children, led her, and eventually my fathe= r into urban and environmental politics. Most of her writing went into citize= n research and policy statements. Yet, now in her waning years, she continually expresses disappointment that she did not fulfill her dream to become known as a writer - going as far to discount her considerable accomplishments as an activist politician. So, this particular evening, rather than again listen to this reoccurring lament, I decide to dust off my old skills as a creative writing teacher to see if we can still get something out of her! While she sits on the couch, I claim a ripe peach from the kitchen, turn off the PBS News Hour, and put the fruit into the gentle grip of her hands. Since it=B9s hard for her to still manually write, I open my journal and pull out my pen to transcribe: I start with a simple question: "Mom, how would you describe the peach?" "It has very formal outside," she says, slowly sliding one of her hands around it its circumference. "It is outlined very carefully. It is not irregular. The colors are lovely, soft and expanding into the whole operation." "Do you mean out into the world?" "No. I am not trying to go outside the limits of what I know about. I see predominantly a deep rose. Underlying it is a smattering of gold. It has the softness of a rose. When you touch it, it is very accommodating. It calls you right in. It's a happy peach." "Do you want to compare the peach to anything?" "I don't want to compare it. Just from being out in the light, heat and the very cold weather we have had, the exterior is harsh looking. You know something has happened to the peach. It's been out in the world, just like what happens to very young men." She pauses to look at the base of the fruit. "Down here at the bottom," she continues, "It is smooth and delightful. But when you get up to the higher part, its own significance is not that important. It's waiting for someone else to come and do something else to i= t - different than its first go around. In its first go around, there were no indications. Now there are indications of things they want to do, things that they will do, and things nice to have done. I know from having studied other pieces of fruit that they will do things that are significant - they shine in the sun. They make the passerby recognize them, all of which adds to the glory of the fruit. Some will get more glorious than others." My mother pauses. While she's talked, she has continued to palm the sides o= f the peach. "Am I getting too bookish," she looks at me, smiles and asks, almost a combination of pleasure and embarrassment by her outlay. I laugh. She pauses again. "Is this a classroom project? Is this what you do? Where do you this?" "I'm doing it right here, Mom." I read her back the piece. She does not comment. She smiles and looks pleased with herself. As I am. Indeed, it is sweet to hear her without complaint.=20 Stephen Vincent=20 Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:22:14 +0100 Reply-To: junction@earthlink.net Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Mark Weiss Subject: PLEASE REMOVE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry all, I'm abroad, as they say, on someone else's computer. Please please someone contact the list manager and have me removed. I'll rejpoin in a month. Thanks. Mark Weiss ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:45:24 +0800 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Bob Marcacci Subject: Re: Peach Recreate - or, Mom & the Peach In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable yeah, great story, Stephen... i was holding a peach today in my classroom... peaches were our student's snacks today... they looked like small hearts, very hard peaches and not like what i knew about peaches from California where we are spoiled... one student wanted to know how many different types of peaches i knew... after naming a white peach, i was lost, not much of a peach expert... he didn't seem to mind, happy, perhaps, that he knew more than me... --=20 Bob Marcacci To laugh often and much; to win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of children; to earn the appreciation of honest critics and endure the betrayal of false friends; to appreciate beauty; to find the best in others; to leave the world a bit better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch or a redeemed social condition; to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived. This is to have succeeded. - Ralph Waldo Emerson > From: Stephen Vincent > Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group > Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:18:56 -0700 > To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Peach Recreate - or, Mom & the Peach >=20 > When I was in my twenties and early thirties - before I got taken by bein= g a > publisher - I was deeply involved in poetry-in-the schools programs, > (creating exercises for classing, administering, etc.) as well as teachin= g > in various colleges. After loving it, I burnt out on it and turned to > working with committed artists, authors and poets on making books. Lately= , > now out of publishing - at least for the moment - I am, apparently, back > into it, or, much to my delight, this little event below happened recentl= y, > which I feel compelled 'to share' among poets and friends! Enjoy: >=20 > Mom & the Peach >=20 > Friday evening I went to Richmond to have dinner and visit with my mom - = who > is now 89. When young her aspiration was to be a writer - in fact, during > her twenties and thirties, she wrote and published both short stories and > articles. However, fate and four children, led her, and eventually my fat= her > into urban and environmental politics. Most of her writing went into citi= zen > research and policy statements. Yet, now in her waning years, she > continually expresses disappointment that she did not fulfill her dream t= o > become known as a writer - going as far to discount her considerable > accomplishments as an activist politician. >=20 > So, this particular evening, rather than again listen to this reoccurring > lament, I decide to dust off my old skills as a creative writing teacher = to > see if we can still get something out of her! >=20 > While she sits on the couch, I claim a ripe peach from the kitchen, turn > off the PBS News Hour, and put the fruit into the gentle grip of her hand= s. > Since it=B9s hard for her to still manually write, I open my journal and pu= ll > out my pen to transcribe: >=20 > I start with a simple question: >=20 > "Mom, how would you describe the peach?" >=20 > "It has very formal outside," she says, slowly sliding one of her hands > around it its circumference. "It is outlined very carefully. It is not > irregular. The colors are lovely, soft and expanding into the whole > operation." >=20 > "Do you mean out into the world?" >=20 > "No. I am not trying to go outside the limits of what I know about. I see > predominantly a deep rose. Underlying it is a smattering of gold. >=20 > It has the softness of a rose. When you touch it, it is very accommodatin= g. > It calls you right in. It's a happy peach." >=20 > "Do you want to compare the peach to anything?" >=20 > "I don't want to compare it. Just from being out in the light, heat and t= he > very cold weather we have had, the exterior is harsh looking. You know > something has happened to the peach. It's been out in the world, just lik= e > what happens to very young men." >=20 > She pauses to look at the base of the fruit. >=20 > "Down here at the bottom," she continues, "It is smooth and delightful. B= ut > when you get up to the higher part, its own significance is not that > important. It's waiting for someone else to come and do something else to= it > - different than its first go around. In its first go around, there were = no > indications. Now there are indications of things they want to do, things > that they will do, and things nice to have done. I know from having studi= ed > other pieces of fruit that they will do things that are significant - the= y > shine in the sun. They make the passerby recognize them, all of which add= s > to the glory of the fruit. Some will get more glorious than others." >=20 > My mother pauses. While she's talked, she has continued to palm the sides= of > the peach. >=20 > "Am I getting too bookish," she looks at me, smiles and asks, almost a > combination of pleasure and embarrassment by her outlay. >=20 > I laugh. She pauses again. >=20 > "Is this a classroom project? Is this what you do? Where do you this?" >=20 > "I'm doing it right here, Mom." >=20 > I read her back the piece. She does not comment. She smiles and looks > pleased with herself. As I am. Indeed, it is sweet to hear her without > complaint.=20 >=20 > Stephen Vincent=20 > Blog: http://stephenvincent.durationpress.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:26:29 EDT Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Joe Brennan Subject: Rumsfeld Confirms Negotiations With Iraqi Terrorists Comments: To: corp-focus@lists.essential.org, WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Click here: The Assassinated Press Rumsfeld Confirms Negotiations With Iraqi Terrorists: Sunni Terrorists Demand Foreign Fighters From Britain And America Leave; Return Of Saddam: Sunnis Reject U.S. Surrender Terms; Americans Offer To Give Terrorists Tony Blair, Cash: By JOSHING WHITEY They hang the man and flog the woman That steal the goose from off the common, But let the greater villain loose That steals the common from the goose. ".....at a time when I am speaking to you about the paradox of desire -- in the sense that different goods obscure it -- you can hear outside the awful language of power. There's no point in asking whether they are sincere or hypocritical, whether they want peace of whether they calculate the risks. The dominating impression as such a moment is that something that may pass for a prescribed good; information addresses and captures impotent crowds to whom it is poured forth like a liquor that leaves them dazed as they move toward the slaughter house. One might even ask if one would allow the cataclysm to occur without first giving free reign to this hubbub of voices...." ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:17:15 -0700 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Ishaq Organization: selah7 Subject: The 2005 Black Declaration of Independence MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2005/06/42355.php The 2005 Black Declaration of Independence In this society, the criminals make the laws and we the victims of their crimes continue to go to prison. America is still guilty of mass murder, grand theft and the deliberate destruction of the indigenous and Afrikan people. Before we discuss the cases of Mumia Abul Jamaal or Assata Shakur, we need to bring this country up on charges of genocide. Millions of our people have been killed without even a crime or trial. When white people disappear, we are all supposed to stop and go look for them. Our people have always disappeared without a trace. "The 2005 Black Declaration of Independence" by Dalani Aamon I am here in America because at least one of my ancestors survived one of the most barbaric captures and inhumane boat rides ever imaginable. That ancestor was tortured and treated like cattle for years. He or she was allowed to have sex for the expressed purpose of providing the white subhuman species with free labor to build and maintain this place called america. We were deprived of our ability to love freely and openly like other people. The acts against us were criminal, unnatural and inhuman. Our language was taken away, our families torn up. Our real names have been taken away forever. We are still suffering from Post Slavery Syndrome that has caused our Black Family Dysfunction. Our natural spirituality was ignored and replaced with their Christianity. Our involuntary geographical relocation was the final straw in the attempted destruction of our land based culture and traditions. This genocidal effort is not part of some past and forgiven action. It is not only ongoing, but in high gear globally. Despite our more than four hundred years of trying to make this criminally induced relationship function, we are a people homesick for a more natural choice of lifetime earth partners. Our reluctance to declare our independence from the most murderous people, who have ever been on the planet earth, is proof that the brainwashing is now complete. We still love them, more than we love ourselves. Look who we give all of our money to. For those of us who believe that time will cure all of our problems, look around you. White people have killed us for hundreds of years without ever suffering the consequences of their actions. We are even today, still being lynched by the people you are waiting to change. http://www.harambeeradio.com/bernard.html In this society, the criminals make the laws and we the victims of their crimes continue to go to prison. America is still guilty of mass murder, grand theft and the deliberate destruction of the indigenous and Afrikan people. Before we discuss the cases of Mumia Abul Jamaal or Assata Shakur, we need to bring this country up on charges of genocide. Millions of our people have been killed without even a crime or trial. When white people disappear, we are all supposed to stop and go look for them. Our people have always disappeared without a trace. The mass media is the last place we look for our folks. They will carry a cat up a tree story before they report and follow up on one of us being missing. We excuse it all away because we've seen it all before. When one or two of their people are killed, anyone Black in the area is subject to get life in prison. It matters not whether this government can prove it. There is no such thing as a black on white crime that is treated fairly. In any relationship that has been so devastating and injurious to one of the people involved, relief should be a naturally occurring device. We have irreconcilable differences with America. We must divorce ourselves from the illusion that we are one people. It is not our imagination. It was never intended and will never happen. The Europeans lifetime quest for world dominance at any cost will never be understood by most humans. This subhuman behavior has us killing people of colour for them in the name of god bless america and a paycheck. We have tried to reconcile this behavior and this distorted slave/master relationship. We have on occasion been favored with a partial apology or a new document to placate and validate our existence here. The real truth is that white supremacy is never going to ever admit any errors. Their own perceived perfection and arrogance prevents them from telling the truth about the past, the present or the future. Try to get them to tell the truth about the discovery of the so called americas. According to them they have not commited any crimes against anyone on planet earth. Ask them if you don't believe me. The south still has jurisdictions that can't get an indictment or conviction for murder against a white man when the deceased is a Black man. Whites don't send whites to jail no matter how much evidence is produced. We should give our people the same pass. We have been lynched and officially executed by the state on the word of a white women for centuries. They live around us with impunity based on the historical reality and lack of respect for us as a people. The prisons around this country are the new plantations being run by the same ole masers. The Black people that call these prisons home, should have never been incarcerated. Our Prisoner of War status doesn't allow us to be treated fairly or justly. Had america not have violated the peace and tranquility we enjoyed before their imposed relationship on us, prisons would be obsolete for us. I contend that the real weapons of mass destruction are being aimed at us daily. I am sounding the alarm as an endangered species, that we must act to save ourselves. Our very survival and safety as a cultural and historical people is at stake. The tyranny of this government towards us is unquestionable. How can we solve it all? Their answer to a government that they felt to be overbearing, unrelenting and uncompromising in their pursuit of happiness, was to Declare their Independence from that entity.Their own words are in red. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,–That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." END: The charge against the British crown was not Mass Murder. It was not attempted cultural, spiritual or ongoing genocide. The declaration was against their own relatives.The people that looked like them and spoke the same language as them. The declaration was made in spite of both sides being in voluntary agreement about the formation and use of america. They still used everything at their disposal to insure their complete freedom. They called for civil actions on behalf of all the people who felt the same. They never considered our enslavement or freedom, while the bombs were bursting in air. Freedom is Creator given , natural and humane right that should come as a result of your birth. We are now living with people who don't respect that natural law. It's that time of the year again. Fireworks and celebratory functions are being prepared all over the world. We don't even see the disconnection in celebrating other people's freedom while not even considering your own. If your life has been productive and problem free, great. Help us help others. Get involved in the true liberation of our minds. do it for your ancestors, who weren't so fortunate. Join in somewhere. What are you going to be doing as a black person to gain the respect of the world that other groups do? Join in somewhere please. Find a group where you live. Can't find one, then let me know. United we stand, divided we will fall. We keep complaining but do nothing. Use your time wisely. The enemy never sleeps. ************************************************************************ What will I be doing on the 4Th of Yu Lie? I will be reading the New Document in person. I will be in Baltimore at the Black Continental Congress working with like minded Brothers and Sisters to finally Declare Our Independence. We are asking all people of colour to consider joining us in person or in spirit that day. It will be the start of some serious dialog. I Love You Black People Dalani Aamon-CEO and Founder The Harambee Radio Network dalani@harambeeradio To learn more about this much needed meeting go to http://www.anoblecause.org Tune in tonight to hear some discussion about this one day event. http://www.harambeeradio.com at 9:00 PM EST Its time to Declare Our Independence. ___\ Stay Strong\ \ "Be a friend to the oppressed and an enemy to the oppressor" \ --Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib (as)\ \ http://www.sleepybrain.net/vanilla.html \ http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_comments/766_0_15_0_C/ \ http://ilovepoetry.com/search.asp?keywords=braithwaite&orderBy=date \ http://www.lowliferecords.co.uk/ \ \ } ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 04:15:17 +0900 Reply-To: Uh Ak Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Uh Ak Subject: Hello Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hello, my name is Ak-uh, a new member in Korea. I want to introduce myself by my poem. If anyone's interested in my imaginary art history, visit my homepage(www.xqqqx.com) and read my poem 'Timeless age'. I will be really happy if I get some feedback. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:01:09 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Nick Bredie Subject: Summer Readings on the Bowery. Tuesday, 5 July 2005. 6pm [happy hour] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit "Young poets on a toot grind the Columbia MFA scene into Bowery organica." Thats how Bob Holman described the reading series ostensibly titled Vacation House [for those without one]. We are now grinding into our second brace of readings with two great young poets, bright-eyed but not wet-behind-the-ears: DREW BAUGHMAN and JESS KEYSER-FJELD. Tuesday, June 7th 6 PM [happy hour--2for1 drinks] Bowery Poetry Club 308 Bowery, b/t Bleeker and Houston B,D,F,V to B'way/Lafayette or 6 to Bleeker $3 for the readers DREW BAUGHMAN is the author of 'Vostok Fizzle,' an as yet unpublished romp through the realm of absolute spirit. He is a recent graduate of the Brooklyn College MFA program. JESS KEYSER-FJELD recently won Columbia University's prestegious Woodberry Poetry Prize. Her poems, which combine the surealist sensibilites of the New York School with baking soda in a hot pan, have appeared in the Columbia Review and Quarto magazine among others. come for a post fourth of july hair of the dog. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:24:38 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Lou Rowan Subject: Re: Subtext Seattle - Christian BOK & Nico Vassilakis In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Nico, Damn! Ginger and I have to be out of town unexpectedly. Please break any fungible appendages! Best, Lou >From: Nico Vassilakis >Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group >To: POETICS@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU >Subject: Subtext Seattle - Christian BOK & Nico Vassilakis >Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 01:07:41 -0700 > >Subtext continues its monthly series of experimental writing with readings >by >Christian BOk and Nico Vassilakis at Richard Hugo House on Wednesday, July >6, >2005. Donations for admission will be taken at the door on the evening of >the >performance. The reading starts at 7:30pm. > >=== >Christian BOk is the author of _Eunoia_ (Coach House Books, 2001), a >bestselling >work of experimental literature, which has won the Griffin Prize for Poetic >Excellence (2002). _Crystallography_ (Coach House Press, 1994), his first >book >of poetry, has also earned a nomination for the Gerald Lampert Memorial >Award >(1995). BOk has created artificial languages for two television shows: Gene >Roddenberry's Earth: Final Conflict and Peter Benchley's Amazon. BOk has >also >earned many accolades for his virtuoso performances of sound poetry. His >conceptual artworks (which include books built out of Rubik's Cubes and >Lego >Bricks) have appeared at the Marianne Boesky Gallery in New York City as >part of >the exhibit Poetry Plastique. BOk currently teaches in the Department of >English >at the University of Calgary. > >http://www.chbooks.com/online/eunoia/index.html >http://www.chbooks.com/online/eunoia/new_ennui.html >http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/bok >http://www.writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Bok.html > >=== >Nico Vassilakis lives in Seattle. Recent writing can be found in Bird Dog, >Traverse, 3rd Bed, 5 trope. Nico has a DVD recently available titled >Concrete: >Movies. He is also working on a play about Morton Feldman. With compass and >pencil he is drafting his way through dread. > >Ron Silliman writes: Nico Vassilakis writes a very clean line. There are, >of >course, as many reasons to not want a clean line as there might be to >desire >one. Like rhyme or the tub-thumping metrics of iambic pentameter, the form >insinuates a vision of unmediated & harmonious existence that is patently a >lie. >Vassilakis does a superb job in . of using just such possibilities against >themselves. Sort of an anti-Moxley, Vassilakis's irony meter has arrived at >a >throbbing red maximum. "Meanness is allowed to fester / And it will ruin >the >spine" is an absolutely fabulous moment in this regard. It is difficult to >imagine how an individual could ever hope to write much better than that. > >Many web links are available to Nico's work, including: >http://www.ubu.com/contemp/vass/vass.html > >=== >The future Subtext 2005 schedule is: > >August 2005 Rusty Morrison (Bay Area) & Christine Deavel > >For info on these & other Subtext events, see our website: >http://www.speakeasy.org/~subtext _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:30:02 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Maria Damon Subject: lorenzo thomas update Comments: To: engrad-l@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU, englfac@LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" dear friends: i hesitate a bit to forward this to so large a group but if you could send good energy and prayers lorenzo-ward it'd be much appreciated --md >X-From_: fish@coffeehousepress.org Thu Jun 30 16:49:17 2005 >X-Umn-Remote-Mta: [N] mtain-c.tc.umn.edu [160.94.128.20] #+LO+NM >X-Umn-Remote-Mta: [N] sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36] >#+HF+NR+CU+OF (A,-) >X-Umn-Report-As-Spam: > >X-Eon-Sig: AQHx+FxCxGjSBGy2/AIAAAAB,e837b4456f357ff1e1eb50c852a80196 >Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:49:08 -0500 >Subject: FW: Lorenzo Thomas - Community Notice >From: Chris Fischbach >To: Maria Damon > > > Community Notice > >June 29, 2005 > >Lorenzo Thomas is presently very ill. He is now residing at the >facility listed below. > >The Hospice at the Texas Medical Center >1905 Holcombe Blvd. >(off Almeda Rd.) > >Phone: (713) 677-7262 > > >Please keep Brother Lorenzo and his family in your prayers. > > > > > >About Lorenzo Thomas > >"Thomas is a professor of English at the University of >Houston-Downtown (and a sometime book reviewer for the Chronicle). >Born in Panama, he grew up in New York City and attended Queens >College (City University of New York). As a young writer he was part >of the Black Arts Movement of the 1960s and '70s, which melded >aesthetics with political engagement. Amiri Baraka, formerly known >as LeRoi Jones, is perhaps the best-known name associated with it. >Thomas was a founding member of the Umbra Workshop, a collective of >young black writers on Manhattan's Lower East Side." > > > -Houston >Chronicle > >Link: >http://writing.upenn.edu/pepc/authors/thomas/ > >Poetry > >Dancing on Main Street, Coffee House Press, 2004 > >Bathers, Reed International Books, 1981 > >Chances Are Few, Blue Wind Press, 1979 > >Criticism > >Extraordinary Measures: Afrocentric Modernism and 20Th-Century >American Poetry, University of Alabama Press; 2000 > >Sing the Sun Up: Creative Writing Ideas from African American >Literature, Teachers & Writers Collaborative, 1998 > > >Biographical/Critical Sources: > >from Gale Databases: >Dictionary >of Literary Biography > >from Gale Databases: >Contemporary >Authors > >--B_3202994333_1780028-- --B_3202994948_14339-- -- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:50:58 -0500 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: mIEKAL aND Subject: West Lima, WI early 1900s Comments: To: Writing and Theory across Disciplines , spidertangle@yahoogroups.com, dreamtime@yahoogroups.com, permaculture Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed A few photo-postcards from the early 1900s of West Lima, WI, the tiny town that Dreamtime Village is located in. At the time of these photos this place was a thriving metropolis of 300 or so & most people rarely left town because everything they needed to get by could be purchased in town. Now West Lima is about 60 people & the sole business is the pepsi machine across the street. My fave foto in this series is the one called "The Streets of West Lima" which shows the crossroads outside my door, but back then there was a big old elm right in the middle of the crossroads. These days the tree is gone but now we have Amish teenagers speeding thru the 4 way stop without stopping. http://www.dreamtimevillage.org/gallery/lima_history ~mIEKAL Dreamtime Village Hypermedia Permaculture EcoVillage in Southwest Wisconsin http://www.dreamtimevillage.org ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 22:13:44 -0400 Reply-To: UB Poetics discussion group Sender: UB Poetics discussion group From: Al Filreis Subject: Writers House Fellows 2006 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The community of writers, artists and critics at the Kelly Writers House is pleased to announce our 2006 WRITERS HOUSE FELLOWS: February 13-14 Richard Ford March 20-21 Cynthia Ozick April 17-18 Ian Frazier Writers House Fellows is made possible by a generous grant from Paul Kelly. previous Writers House Fellows: Adrienne Rich 2005 E. L. Doctorow Roger Angell Lyn Hejinian Russell Banks 2004 James Alan McPherson Susan Sontag 2003 Walter Bernstein Laurie Anderson John Ashbery 2002 Charles Fuller Michael Cunningham June Jordan 2001 David Sedaris Tony Kushner Grace Paley 2000 Robert Creeley John Edgar Wideman Gay Talese 1999