<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post111538786679790065..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>36</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111648648112131255</id><published>2005-05-19T03:08:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-19T03:08:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Nice blog on poetry...I enjoyed reading the bit an...</title><summary type='text'>Nice blog on poetry...I enjoyed reading the bit and pieces</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111648648112131255'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111648648112131255'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html?showComment=1116486480000#c111648648112131255' title=''/><author><name>iamnasra</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16030794699915000249</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111538786679790065' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111538786679790065' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1871486519"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 19, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111638674994107359</id><published>2005-05-17T23:25:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-17T23:25:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Hell of a discussion.  I find it musical :)</title><summary type='text'>Hell of a discussion.  I find it musical :)</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111638674994107359'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111638674994107359'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html?showComment=1116386700000#c111638674994107359' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111538786679790065' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111538786679790065' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 17, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111621554204759201</id><published>2005-05-15T23:52:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-15T23:52:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;Haven&#39;t you lot&quot; is a Briticism.  Or maybe Aussie...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;Haven&#39;t you lot&quot; is a Briticism.  Or maybe Aussie.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Aye, mate, what&#39;s up your sleeve? &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Grown weary of the colonials fuzzing up the works?/&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Jolly good lot of good that&#39;ll do ye!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;--CF</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111621554204759201'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111621554204759201'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html?showComment=1116215520000#c111621554204759201' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111538786679790065' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111538786679790065' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 15, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111619827147781888</id><published>2005-05-15T19:04:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-15T19:04:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Yes, I suppose we should be out in the world makin...</title><summary type='text'>Yes, I suppose we should be out in the world making ourselves useful -- like, perhaps, selling pipe. I hear there&#39;s quite a market for PVC.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111619827147781888'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111619827147781888'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html?showComment=1116198240000#c111619827147781888' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111538786679790065' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111538786679790065' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 15, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111607059759538927</id><published>2005-05-14T07:36:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-14T07:36:00.001-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Haven&#39;t you lot anything better to do?</title><summary type='text'>Haven&#39;t you lot anything better to do?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111607059759538927'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111607059759538927'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html?showComment=1116070560001#c111607059759538927' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111538786679790065' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111538786679790065' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 14, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111607057216064453</id><published>2005-05-14T07:36:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-14T07:36:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Haven&#39;t you lot anything better to do?</title><summary type='text'>Haven&#39;t you lot anything better to do?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111607057216064453'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111607057216064453'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html?showComment=1116070560000#c111607057216064453' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111538786679790065' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111538786679790065' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 14, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111593219761570990</id><published>2005-05-12T17:09:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-12T17:09:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I have a question for Ron or for anyone else who w...</title><summary type='text'>I have a question for Ron or for anyone else who wants to answer it.  I am relatively new to language/innovative/theoretical, types of poetry, and that&#39;s why I have been reading this blog somewhat regularly lately. My question is off topic from the previous postings, but it&#39;s still bothering me enough to go ahead and interrupt those for now.  Ron mentions the lyric in regards to Brady&#39;s &quot;The Dust</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111593219761570990'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111593219761570990'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html?showComment=1115932140000#c111593219761570990' title=''/><author><name>Close Reader of the Day</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111538786679790065' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111538786679790065' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 12, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111583151443171284</id><published>2005-05-11T13:11:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-11T13:11:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Okay, Curtis.  I see where the heart of some of ou...</title><summary type='text'>Okay, Curtis.  I see where the heart of some of our disagreement lies.  It seems to be elsewhere from the poems.  I disagree that taste is not hermetic.  I think it is.  Or it&#39;s fashioned upon some very tenuous claims, usually respective to class issues.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;What bothers me is that people are still claiming some objective sensibility.  I&#39;ve never met anyone who&#39;s objective.  I don&#39;t believe </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111583151443171284'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111583151443171284'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html?showComment=1115831460000#c111583151443171284' title=''/><author><name>James</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/14066844450420389687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111538786679790065' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111538786679790065' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-564976163"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 11, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111582432324057718</id><published>2005-05-11T11:12:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-11T11:12:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>--to respond to James and Anonymous above.I&#39;d like...</title><summary type='text'>--to respond to James and Anonymous above.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I&#39;d like to believe that the concept of &quot;taste&quot; is not hermetic, and that there are objective standards of excellence and interest that we might share.  (Nothing frustrates me more than people who say, in argument, &quot;that&#39;s just your opinion!&quot; as if that were an ultimate form of closure (cloture--i.e., I don&#39;t think anyone should be able to </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111582432324057718'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111582432324057718'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html?showComment=1115824320000#c111582432324057718' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111538786679790065' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111538786679790065' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 11, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111581070265576922</id><published>2005-05-11T07:25:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-11T07:25:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Imagine, people treating avant as a PRESERVE. But ...</title><summary type='text'>Imagine, people treating avant as a PRESERVE. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But I do know what they mean. Not about the tin ear or the double &quot;looks&quot; or the glib or the oh dear it&#39;s disunified (all rather revealing remarks). But Brady (in this selection)quite clearly delivers on non-avant terms - Well-wrought (or at least highly-wrought)semantically- charged syntax, imagery (Jesus...), information, memorability, </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111581070265576922'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111581070265576922'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html?showComment=1115810700000#c111581070265576922' title=''/><author><name>Michael Peverett</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17090710369630916194</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111538786679790065' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111538786679790065' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-566691718"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 11, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111578916123444608</id><published>2005-05-11T01:26:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-11T01:26:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>What&#39;s the saying, Ron?  The simplest possible ans...</title><summary type='text'>What&#39;s the saying, Ron?  The simplest possible answer is usually the truth?  Your explanation makes complete sense.  And I&#39;m happy to hear it.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Nepotism?  Bah!  Communion?  Jah.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;-jeremy</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111578916123444608'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111578916123444608'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html?showComment=1115789160000#c111578916123444608' title=''/><author><name>Jehza</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09527708835511076143</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111538786679790065' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111538786679790065' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-355639647"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 11, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111578497190255767</id><published>2005-05-11T00:16:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-11T00:16:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I just got back from NY to see all these emails. I...</title><summary type='text'>I just got back from NY to see all these emails. I do want to make one thing clear -- I bought Brady&#39;s book from SPD after hearing good things about him from some other folks. I didn&#39;t even realize it was a Factory House book until I was writing about it -- Joel &amp; I don&#39;t sit around and plot out how to maximize circulation. Those kinds of charges of nepotism make assumptions about the world of </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111578497190255767'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111578497190255767'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html?showComment=1115784960000#c111578497190255767' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111538786679790065' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111538786679790065' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 11, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111578239273781290</id><published>2005-05-10T23:33:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-10T23:33:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>CF -- I do find the language effective.  I wasn&#39;t ...</title><summary type='text'>CF -- I do find the language effective.  I wasn&#39;t around for the Jeff Clark discussion. And not sure what you mean by &quot;attempting to be avant&quot;...  It almost sounds like it&#39;s the grungier pictures or the punky tone that bother you, or that you find revolting; rather than the actual mechanics.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ezra pez dispenser Pound schmound. The quote doesn&#39;t make sense. He&#39;s comparing apples and </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111578239273781290'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111578239273781290'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html?showComment=1115782380000#c111578239273781290' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111538786679790065' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111538786679790065' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 10, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111578234053393662</id><published>2005-05-10T23:32:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-10T23:32:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis, we have different tastes.  Your arguments,...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis, we have different tastes.  Your arguments, though, are doing a lot of unmentioned leaning.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;1.  A person has to care what Pound says, and believe it&#39;s true.  Is it?  Whenever I hear &quot;must&quot; or &quot;should&quot;, I just hear the inflexibility of a mind needing order for whatever reason it needs it. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;2.  A person has to somehow see Hopkins&#39; use of, for instance, &quot;blue-bleak embers&quot;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111578234053393662'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111578234053393662'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html?showComment=1115782320000#c111578234053393662' title=''/><author><name>James</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/14066844450420389687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111538786679790065' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111538786679790065' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-564976163"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 10, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111577802405946749</id><published>2005-05-10T22:20:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-10T22:20:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I think the folks who like Taylor Brady are probab...</title><summary type='text'>I think the folks who like Taylor Brady are probably the same ones who like(d) Jeff Clark, and for the same reasons.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In attempting to be avant, many confuse the hybrid anti-poetic (&quot;pus in pleasure&quot;) with effective writing.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;Poetry must be at least as well written as good prose&quot; --Pound&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;That&#39;s an injunction to remember whenever the argument over style gets out of </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111577802405946749'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111577802405946749'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html?showComment=1115778000000#c111577802405946749' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111538786679790065' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111538786679790065' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 10, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111576575473125589</id><published>2005-05-10T18:55:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-10T18:55:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>It&#39;s musical.  The rhetorical moves are glib but t...</title><summary type='text'>It&#39;s musical.  The rhetorical moves are glib but there is a serious content within it.  I tend to like rough, crude diction, as long as it still sings.  To me, these sections do do that.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;For what it&#39;s worth.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;James Wagner</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111576575473125589'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111576575473125589'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html?showComment=1115765700000#c111576575473125589' title=''/><author><name>James</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/14066844450420389687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111538786679790065' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111538786679790065' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-564976163"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 10, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111574883075293750</id><published>2005-05-10T14:13:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-10T14:13:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Who would have guessed? This post seems to have br...</title><summary type='text'>Who would have guessed? This post seems to have brought out the poet in everyone. (I personally don&#39;t see how it is possible to howl about the anti-poetic nature of any poetry after the excesses of the past 20-25 centuries.)</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111574883075293750'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111574883075293750'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html?showComment=1115748780000#c111574883075293750' title=''/><author><name>Michael Harold</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11165160971360124629</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111538786679790065' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111538786679790065' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-626236699"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 10, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111574628057372306</id><published>2005-05-10T13:31:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-10T13:31:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I&#39;ve never read Brady&#39;s work but very much liked w...</title><summary type='text'>I&#39;ve never read Brady&#39;s work but very much liked what Ron posted. It is, of course, kind of hard to get a truly full picture from just a few poems, or parts of a longer poem that clearly were intended to be read sequentially (at least I would guess so, if the parts are dated). &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I strongly disagree with those above who&#39;ve said the work&#39;s not musical. God; I really think it is. The double </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111574628057372306'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111574628057372306'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html?showComment=1115746260000#c111574628057372306' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111538786679790065' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111538786679790065' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 10, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111574490611831027</id><published>2005-05-10T13:08:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-10T13:08:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Yeah, I wonder if &#39;anonymous&#39; doesn&#39;t have a point...</title><summary type='text'>Yeah, I wonder if &#39;anonymous&#39; doesn&#39;t have a point. The dis-trust of erudition for its own sake. And what appears at times to be indulging in personal harassment.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;When will &#39;this&#39; be discussed? Not &#39;that&#39;, but &#39;this&#39;?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;How will commmentary not dissolve into a &#39;me eager to be me&#39;? What is the voice and address here?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Georges Bataille writes (_Inner Experience_, originally </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111574490611831027'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111574490611831027'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html?showComment=1115744880000#c111574490611831027' title=''/><author><name>Arlee Christian</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08200416510821299942</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111538786679790065' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111538786679790065' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-551028600"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 10, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111574329962960072</id><published>2005-05-10T12:41:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-10T12:41:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>In reading these series of comments, sometimes I w...</title><summary type='text'>In reading these series of comments, sometimes I wonder if some people are posting to prove how erudite they can be. Reminds me of those old grad school days and university teaching after. It was &#39;who can sound smarter than who&#39; too much of the time. Egads. Give Silliman a break. He has a great blog. I&#39;m not posting this under any identity because, quite honestly, some people on this list seem </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111574329962960072'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111574329962960072'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html?showComment=1115743260000#c111574329962960072' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111538786679790065' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111538786679790065' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 10, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111573975054518476</id><published>2005-05-10T11:42:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-10T11:42:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Fruition has roiled the fact-checkers’ rat-pack of...</title><summary type='text'>Fruition has roiled the fact-checkers’ rat-pack of dizzying agglomeration.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Timidity stipples the ballet-boards of mere chance.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Trappings of aleatorical immediacy launch the Zeitgeist, and poets punch through Venetian ice for breathtaking gulps of panoramic plangency.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111573975054518476'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111573975054518476'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html?showComment=1115739720000#c111573975054518476' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111538786679790065' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111538786679790065' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 10, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111573840060379820</id><published>2005-05-10T11:20:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-10T11:20:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Brady doesn&#39;t need Silliman&#39;s praise &amp; the hyperbo...</title><summary type='text'>Brady doesn&#39;t need Silliman&#39;s praise &amp; the hyperbole is wince-inducing.  So is &quot;it&#39;s okay if his sense of the line&#39;s complexity isn&#39;t the equal say, of, Eleni Sikelianos.&quot;  Thank you, Ron, for pronouncing it okay.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111573840060379820'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111573840060379820'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html?showComment=1115738400000#c111573840060379820' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111538786679790065' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111538786679790065' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 10, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111573508239481567</id><published>2005-05-10T10:24:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-10T10:24:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>It&#39;s odd one would reference Zukofsky when defendi...</title><summary type='text'>It&#39;s odd one would reference Zukofsky when defending Brady.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Zukofsky&#39;s work is nothing if not musically inspired and finished.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;There is virtually no &quot;music&quot; in Brady, and I&#39;m not narrowly defining it in traditional terms by any means.  80 Flowers is certainly not traditional.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;No, I meant to suggest that experimental verse can have a dimension of harshness, even of</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111573508239481567'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111573508239481567'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html?showComment=1115735040000#c111573508239481567' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111538786679790065' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111538786679790065' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 10, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111570860381628839</id><published>2005-05-10T03:03:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-10T03:03:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Well, the criticism puts me in mind of Williams&#39; &quot;...</title><summary type='text'>Well, the criticism puts me in mind of Williams&#39; &quot;so much talk of the language, when there are no ears&quot; ... which is to say not only that the charge &#39;tin ear&#39; presumes a norm or baseline which might be exactly what Brady&#39;s questioning, but is also (read anything by Marjorie) usually pretty baseless - in that those who wear the laurel&#39;s of &quot;poets&#39; poet&quot; etc. as Zukofsky (whom, by the way, Brady&#39;s </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111570860381628839'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111570860381628839'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html?showComment=1115708580000#c111570860381628839' title=''/><author><name>Kenneth Sherwood</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/02262974423243259132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111538786679790065' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111538786679790065' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1428323626"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 10, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111568000860514378</id><published>2005-05-09T19:06:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-05-09T19:06:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>We all have different tastes or we&#39;d all write the...</title><summary type='text'>We all have different tastes or we&#39;d all write the same poems. That said, I enjoyed these excerpts. They&#39;re not what I&#39;d pick off a shelf to read, but I like them because they make me again stretch and ask myself, &#39;what new can I do?&#39;.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111568000860514378'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111538786679790065/comments/default/111568000860514378'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html?showComment=1115679960000#c111568000860514378' title=''/><author><name>Pris</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03970753027686923295</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/05/did-you-ever-have-experience-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111538786679790065' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111538786679790065' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-2102071197"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 09, 2005"/></entry></feed>