<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post111811837070447115..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>31</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111880386865617704</id><published>2005-06-14T22:51:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-14T22:51:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Let&#39;s think a moment.&quot;The&quot;--the nominative, DEFINI...</title><summary type='text'>Let&#39;s think a moment.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;The&quot;--the nominative, DEFINITE article (got that?) which denotes specific (NOT &quot;any&quot;) identity, transforms THE verb &quot;maintains&quot; into a noun (a nominative).  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;As from Zukofsky&#39;s use of such articles:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;A&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;The&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Etc. (there was nothing accidental about that!)  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;We might posit that CC intended to suggest that the nominative </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111880386865617704'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111880386865617704'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html?showComment=1118803860000#c111880386865617704' title=''/><author><name>Curtis faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11550589501499389683</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111811837070447115' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111811837070447115' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-237307155"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 14, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111863096910269309</id><published>2005-06-12T22:49:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-12T22:49:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Meaninglessness can ironically make us want meanin...</title><summary type='text'>Meaninglessness can ironically make us want meaning, and meaning can make us want meaninglessness.  They are points on a vicious circle, rather than binaries.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Coolidge is extremely elegant.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;He&#39;s a very weird poet.  When you meet him, he&#39;s the kind of guy whose socks are never crumpled and his t-shirt is always ironed.  His poetry reads like that.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ironed and pressed.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111863096910269309'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111863096910269309'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html?showComment=1118630940000#c111863096910269309' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111811837070447115' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111811837070447115' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 12, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111861144235514467</id><published>2005-06-12T17:24:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-12T17:24:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Nevertheless, it doesn&#39;t move.</title><summary type='text'>Nevertheless, it doesn&#39;t move.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111861144235514467'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111861144235514467'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html?showComment=1118611440000#c111861144235514467' title=''/><author><name>Lon Silliman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05557544995428892686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111811837070447115' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111811837070447115' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1747027750"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 12, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111859282505127245</id><published>2005-06-12T12:13:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-12T12:13:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;What is the relation of sound to meaning? Any con...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;What is the relation of sound to meaning? Any consideration of the poetry reading must give special significance to this question, since poetry readings are acoustic performances that foreground the audiotext of the poem. One way of approaching this issue is to emphasize the oral dimension of poetry, the origins of the sounds of language in speech. And of course many poets do wish to identify </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111859282505127245'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111859282505127245'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html?showComment=1118592780000#c111859282505127245' title=''/><author><name>Arlee Christian</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08200416510821299942</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111811837070447115' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111811837070447115' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-551028600"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 12, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111859217914291310</id><published>2005-06-12T12:02:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-12T12:02:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Maybe Roland Barthes could prove helpful as well, ...</title><summary type='text'>Maybe Roland Barthes could prove helpful as well, and, even more, Jacques Derrida. Barthes stressed &#39;the poetic function&#39;, and saw in modernism a breakdown of a Bourgeois consciousness that wanted writing to be purely referential (realism, naturalism). The avant-garde, existentialism, symbolism were forms of a &quot;pure, white writing&quot; where the emphasis was on writing (i.e., written signs on some </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111859217914291310'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111859217914291310'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html?showComment=1118592120000#c111859217914291310' title=''/><author><name>Ernesto</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11969105712582566329</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111811837070447115' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111811837070447115' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-987189629"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 12, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111858567825228659</id><published>2005-06-12T10:14:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-12T10:14:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron - my first post to your blog. Forgive me if I&#39;...</title><summary type='text'>Ron - my first post to your blog. Forgive me if I&#39;m out of my depth.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The Coolige posts on Monday and Friday were eye openers for me. I&#39;m of the herd that tends to look for content, concentrating mainly on the 1/6th and hoping the 5/6ths contribute subliminally. Your explorations helped remind me that there&#39;s more than one way to read a text.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;My one and only poetic foray into the</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111858567825228659'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111858567825228659'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html?showComment=1118585640000#c111858567825228659' title=''/><author><name>Rik</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/10564300512472868098</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111811837070447115' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111811837070447115' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1097429834"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 12, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111855838627791817</id><published>2005-06-12T02:39:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-12T02:39:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>wait that wasn&#39;t even Silliman, that guy is bogart...</title><summary type='text'>wait that wasn&#39;t even Silliman, that guy is bogarting his identity !    &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Now I&#39;m confused.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Laterzz</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111855838627791817'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111855838627791817'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html?showComment=1118558340000#c111855838627791817' title=''/><author><name>anders</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08681497819726244816</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111811837070447115' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111811837070447115' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1214566224"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 12, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111855203435809193</id><published>2005-06-12T00:53:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-12T00:53:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>LOL !  ! !   great stuff.  Great debate everyone. ...</title><summary type='text'>LOL !  ! !   great stuff.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Great debate everyone.  So fun to be able to actually lock horns online with a heavy hitter like Ron !   Your position is authentic; it demythologizes fame.  Hell of a blog:  like a walk in library of the mind.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111855203435809193'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111855203435809193'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html?showComment=1118551980000#c111855203435809193' title=''/><author><name>anders</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08681497819726244816</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111811837070447115' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111811837070447115' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1214566224"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 12, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111854515219298149</id><published>2005-06-11T22:59:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-11T22:59:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>And its giving a reading at Wordsworth books somet...</title><summary type='text'>And its giving a reading at Wordsworth books sometime soon!</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111854515219298149'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111854515219298149'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html?showComment=1118545140000#c111854515219298149' title=''/><author><name>Lon Silliman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05557544995428892686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111811837070447115' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111811837070447115' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1747027750"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 11, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111854457844367074</id><published>2005-06-11T22:49:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-11T22:49:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Because the post avant is simply another version o...</title><summary type='text'>Because the post avant is simply another version of official literary culture.  They want what it has.  Hence all this.  If there is an outside, that won&#39;t be noticed by either side.  Both are essentially structures determined by immiseration in the everyday -- getting out there, staying out there.  You trade one feary and rather addled old fellow for another.  How old is the post avant?  How </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111854457844367074'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111854457844367074'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html?showComment=1118544540000#c111854457844367074' title=''/><author><name>Lon Silliman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05557544995428892686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111811837070447115' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111811837070447115' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1747027750"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 11, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111854284853421811</id><published>2005-06-11T22:20:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-11T22:20:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111854284853421811'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111854284853421811'/><author><name>hackzkztv</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04809989461583195705</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111811837070447115' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111811837070447115' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1003761333"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 11, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111854089288797465</id><published>2005-06-11T21:48:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-11T21:48:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Oopa that link didn&#39;t work.  Anyway I wrote a long...</title><summary type='text'>Oopa that link didn&#39;t work.  Anyway I wrote a long comment about the Silliman/Pris debate on wordperfect but can&#39;t figure out how to cut and paste it in here, so I posted it at the blog www.mipoesias.blogspot.com.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111854089288797465'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111854089288797465'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html?showComment=1118540880000#c111854089288797465' title=''/><author><name>anders</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08681497819726244816</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111811837070447115' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111811837070447115' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1214566224"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 11, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111854074670595687</id><published>2005-06-11T21:45:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-11T21:45:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>noted  here.</title><summary type='text'>noted &lt;A HREF=&quot;mipoesias.blogspot.com&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; here.&lt;/A&gt;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111854074670595687'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111854074670595687'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html?showComment=1118540700000#c111854074670595687' title=''/><author><name>anders</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08681497819726244816</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111811837070447115' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111811837070447115' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1214566224"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 11, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111850249366825048</id><published>2005-06-11T11:08:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-11T11:08:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>As far as I can tell (the question I posed at the ...</title><summary type='text'>As far as I can tell (the question I posed at the beginning of the comments hasn&#39;t really been answered), Ron is playing pretty fast and loose with the notion of &quot;meaning&quot; here.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;1. In some place in the essay, &quot;meaning&quot; is just the signified, and in a Coolidge poem, this exists almost entirely at the word level: i.e., in a Coolidge poem of N words, there are N (or more, allowing for </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111850249366825048'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111850249366825048'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html?showComment=1118502480000#c111850249366825048' title=''/><author><name>Simon</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03035545713190516583</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111811837070447115' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111811837070447115' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1104587410"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 11, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111849809266475995</id><published>2005-06-11T09:54:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-11T09:54:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Kirby,I&#39;ve never encountered a meaningless text. W...</title><summary type='text'>Kirby,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I&#39;ve never encountered a meaningless text. What&#39;s it like?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111849809266475995'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111849809266475995'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html?showComment=1118498040000#c111849809266475995' title=''/><author><name>postpran</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00732773401182689304</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111811837070447115' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111811837070447115' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1568842342"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 11, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111847583527195374</id><published>2005-06-11T03:43:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-11T03:43:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron wrote: &quot;The text on a cereal box has sound and...</title><summary type='text'>Ron wrote: &quot;The text on a cereal box has sound and rhythm, Matt. Words can&#39;t be read without involving those elements, unless you&#39;re some kind of Evelyn Wood speedreading bot trained to ignore these dimensions.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I suppose I should have written that graphic inscription has no *necessary* sound (&#39;tho the variety of sounds is limited, unless one chooses not to accept Coolidge as necessarily</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111847583527195374'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111847583527195374'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html?showComment=1118475780000#c111847583527195374' title=''/><author><name>Matt Merlino</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15356783127504854049</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111811837070447115' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111811837070447115' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1135783178"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 11, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111846971476058077</id><published>2005-06-11T02:01:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-11T02:01:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>If the language is a plane, the poet is not a pilo...</title><summary type='text'>If the language is a plane, the poet is not a pilot but a mechanic. Or that&#39;s at least one possibility. The poet may also be the one who makes the most of the crash in the jungle. No point in trying to make it make THAT sound here (no airstip to get us outa here). Best just to jot down a little post-descente langpo effort. &quot;How to Peel an Orange with an Airplane.&quot;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111846971476058077'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111846971476058077'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html?showComment=1118469660000#c111846971476058077' title=''/><author><name>Thomas Basbøll</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04858865501469168339</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111811837070447115' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111811837070447115' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1754536893"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 11, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111846545696448888</id><published>2005-06-11T00:50:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-11T00:50:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>call for work I am producing and editing a chapboo...</title><summary type='text'>call for work &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I am producing and editing a chapbook anthology for differentia books called, thematically, High Plains Drifting. What you need to do is make some high plains drifting in one (to two) pages of text. Address to: differentiabooks ~ gmail.com. Cite project name in subject line. I can process Word documents (while trying to acquire Pagemaker,) and inline email text and b&amp;w (or</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111846545696448888'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111846545696448888'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html?showComment=1118465400000#c111846545696448888' title=''/><author><name>Jesse</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07412934080190052008</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111811837070447115' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111811837070447115' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1788089245"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 11, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111845726790596014</id><published>2005-06-10T22:34:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-10T22:34:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>you go, Joan -- Aviator Gould</title><summary type='text'>you go, Joan -&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;- Aviator Gould</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111845726790596014'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111845726790596014'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html?showComment=1118457240000#c111845726790596014' title=''/><author><name>Henry Gould</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04783460308217456577</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111811837070447115' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111811837070447115' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1417109118"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 10, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111843897557511430</id><published>2005-06-10T17:29:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-10T17:29:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111843897557511430'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111843897557511430'/><author><name>Joan Houlihan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01187571693050255160</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111811837070447115' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111811837070447115' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1466067394"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 10, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111843865279323494</id><published>2005-06-10T17:24:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-10T17:24:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;I am a man in fragments&quot; Pound was alleged to hav...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;I am a man in fragments&quot; Pound was alleged to have said in his last, mad days. Yet, instead of despairing he might have perked up had he known that it was all about the fragments, that he was not in decline but rather on the cutting edge of the cutting room floor, that in the new millenium a &quot;poem&quot; would look like a batch of words and that each word would contain worlds beyond those known to </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111843865279323494'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111843865279323494'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html?showComment=1118438640000#c111843865279323494' title=''/><author><name>Joan Houlihan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01187571693050255160</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111811837070447115' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111811837070447115' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1466067394"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 10, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111843708997337892</id><published>2005-06-10T16:58:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-10T16:58:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I think this is the clearest exposition of the Jac...</title><summary type='text'>I think this is the clearest exposition of the Jacobsen problem thus far.  Contact and code wasn&#39;t really explicated much, but the other two dyads are quite clear.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;If the signifier takes precedence over the signified in Coolidge&#39;s poetry however I don&#39;t think the meaninglessness charge will be waived however because Saussure himself said that signage was arbitrary.  If this is so, and if</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111843708997337892'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111843708997337892'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html?showComment=1118437080000#c111843708997337892' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111811837070447115' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111811837070447115' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 10, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111843594786173681</id><published>2005-06-10T16:39:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-10T16:39:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Adding a few things:nave as a noun can mean &quot;The h...</title><summary type='text'>Adding a few things:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;nave as a noun can mean &quot;The hub of a wheel.&quot;  Thus relating to &quot;as the near wheel.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Bean, unplanted, lacks worldly experience in the same way that one who is naive (nave) might.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Also &quot;The Maintains&quot; echoed &quot;The Mountains,&quot; for me.  Which in turn echoed Tsvetayeva &amp; Celan.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111843594786173681'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111843594786173681'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html?showComment=1118435940000#c111843594786173681' title=''/><author><name>Griffin</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13801089208107548285</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111811837070447115' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111811837070447115' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-220841456"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 10, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111843577541980173</id><published>2005-06-10T16:36:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-10T16:36:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>laurel ratio sharp or hardinstrumental triple to o...</title><summary type='text'>laurel ratio sharp or hard&lt;BR/&gt;instrumental triple to or fro&lt;BR/&gt;granule in award&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Actually this reads to me as a meditation of the philosophy of Aquinas.  The key here is “instrumental triple to or fro) which  refers to the celestial spheres and the presence of the trinity (the instrumental triple). &lt;BR/&gt; The music of the spheres as well as a concept of God as pure Act is caught </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111843577541980173'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111843577541980173'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html?showComment=1118435760000#c111843577541980173' title=''/><author><name>Lon Silliman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05557544995428892686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111811837070447115' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111811837070447115' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1747027750"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 10, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111842059810983755</id><published>2005-06-10T12:23:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-10T12:23:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>This is an amazing assumption:“One of the advantag...</title><summary type='text'>This is an amazing assumption:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;“One of the advantages of language poetry, at least for a time, was that it noticed – and made perceptible to others – that the five remaining functions of language were also always already present &amp; variously active whenever language was being used.”&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Since this has been taught – as rhetoric – for some thousands of years and has been noticed by </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111842059810983755'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111811837070447115/comments/default/111842059810983755'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html?showComment=1118420580000#c111842059810983755' title=''/><author><name>Lon Silliman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05557544995428892686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/roman-jakobson-characterized-language.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111811837070447115' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111811837070447115' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1747027750"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 10, 2005"/></entry></feed>