<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post111898213327536116..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>28</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111970491418006973</id><published>2005-06-25T09:08:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-25T09:08:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ah, Blade Runner. In the company of 2001, A Clockw...</title><summary type='text'>Ah, Blade Runner. In the company of 2001, A Clockwork Orange, The Day the Earth Stood Still, Metropolis. Zardoz (I had to throw that in there).</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111970491418006973'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111970491418006973'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html?showComment=1119704880000#c111970491418006973' title=''/><author><name>Michael Harold</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11165160971360124629</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111898213327536116' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111898213327536116' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-626236699"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 25, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111963186043938560</id><published>2005-06-24T12:51:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-24T12:51:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>My wife and I saw Batman Begins last night in Emer...</title><summary type='text'>My wife and I saw Batman Begins last night in Emeryville, and I must say I didn&#39;t find it the intellecually stimulating experience I had expected after reading Ron&#39;s review.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Art and special effects editors these days seem especially reluctant to build in versimilitude, choosing instead to shake the camera up and jam the screen with blurred close-ups of flying bodies, incomprehensible </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111963186043938560'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111963186043938560'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html?showComment=1119631860000#c111963186043938560' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111898213327536116' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111898213327536116' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 24, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111931925696341052</id><published>2005-06-20T22:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-20T22:00:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;There is also linguistic play in the idea of the ...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;There is also linguistic play in the idea of the &quot;monorail&quot; that Wayne&#39;s father built and which the villains seek to use to destroy Gotham - for it is the monomaniacal impulse in each of the villains that fails to see the multiplicity of identities at work in Wayne.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Oh give me a fucking break...is this the kind of analysis one has to stoop to to delude oneself into thinking &quot;Batman </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111931925696341052'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111931925696341052'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html?showComment=1119319200000#c111931925696341052' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous Brigham Young</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08184908956758089476</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111898213327536116' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111898213327536116' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-835717142"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 20, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111928205358158153</id><published>2005-06-20T11:40:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-20T11:40:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Poetry and cinema have a long history together and...</title><summary type='text'>Poetry and cinema have a long history together and Ron has no need to justify his comments on Batman Begins.  I actually saw Batman last night, and thought it was a good film, but certianly not an advance on Nolana&#39;s Memento, which is that rare thing, a masterpiece that really is one; actually it is so complex it is perhaps a masterpiece(s).&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ron was right to note the complexity of the </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111928205358158153'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111928205358158153'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html?showComment=1119282000000#c111928205358158153' title=''/><author><name>Todd Swift</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01900801847916951522</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111898213327536116' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111898213327536116' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1789007763"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 20, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111927686361360978</id><published>2005-06-20T10:14:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-20T10:14:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Great review, Ron. And to the reader who questione...</title><summary type='text'>Great review, Ron. And to the reader who questioned your choice of analyzing this film, I just want to say that the cinematography (especially in the first hour) and a majority of the script were quite inspiring--visually, viscerally, and intellectually poetic.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111927686361360978'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111927686361360978'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html?showComment=1119276840000#c111927686361360978' title=''/><author><name>Michael Parker</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01280355936107965244</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111898213327536116' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111898213327536116' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-2002640408"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 20, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111917244373394454</id><published>2005-06-19T05:14:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-19T05:14:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Lars PalmYou&#39;ll find a more radical English approa...</title><summary type='text'>Lars Palm&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You&#39;ll find a more radical English approach to poetry at the Bury Text Festival. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;www.textfestival.com</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111917244373394454'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111917244373394454'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html?showComment=1119172440000#c111917244373394454' title=''/><author><name>Tony Trehy</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/02431283291805161686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111898213327536116' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111898213327536116' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1491420110"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 19, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111914423397475157</id><published>2005-06-18T21:23:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-18T21:23:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>serious.  sheexxus folks, that is a cool review.  ...</title><summary type='text'>serious.  sheexxus folks, that is a cool review.  why not talk about movies in poetics? how many black kids seen more tv trees than real?&lt;BR/&gt;ima go see the movie....&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;RS get Ferlinghetti to send Liam N a bill.  You just brought back his career.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111914423397475157'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111914423397475157'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html?showComment=1119144180000#c111914423397475157' title=''/><author><name>jenni</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15572881547671631396</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111898213327536116' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111898213327536116' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-2008615973"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 18, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111914413498566364</id><published>2005-06-18T21:22:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-18T21:22:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>awesome review.  LOVE watching you stretch into po...</title><summary type='text'>awesome review.  LOVE watching you stretch into popculture !!!!</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111914413498566364'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111914413498566364'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html?showComment=1119144120000#c111914413498566364' title=''/><author><name>jenni</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15572881547671631396</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111898213327536116' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111898213327536116' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-2008615973"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 18, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111912907255317044</id><published>2005-06-18T17:11:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-18T17:11:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>My point is that we&#39;ve come to expect certain stoc...</title><summary type='text'>My point is that we&#39;ve come to expect certain stock items from our blockbuster releases, and Batman Begins shatters many of them. I never claimed that, in doing so, Batman Begins gains some sort of incontrovertible art house cred.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;If you don&#39;t buy the personality traits that Batman has always had, throughout all the comics (i.e. the supremely altruistic man of leisure), then I&#39;m afraid </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111912907255317044'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111912907255317044'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html?showComment=1119129060000#c111912907255317044' title=''/><author><name>george</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17906955143705834620</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111898213327536116' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111898213327536116' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-963165052"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 18, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111912697085620372</id><published>2005-06-18T16:36:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-18T16:36:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Just how is complex is Batman&#39;s character in this ...</title><summary type='text'>Just how is complex is Batman&#39;s character in this film? I found Bale&#39;s Batman to be effective, but still fairly flat. Batman/Bruce Wayne is single-mindedly altruistic, though he&#39;s smart enough to play buffoonish party boy when necessary. He&#39;s &quot;tempted&quot; by a clandestine cult of fascists, the lure of super-celebrity status with all the accoutrements--women, money, unique technological gadgets, but </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111912697085620372'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111912697085620372'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html?showComment=1119126960000#c111912697085620372' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous Brigham Young</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08184908956758089476</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111898213327536116' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111898213327536116' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-835717142"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 18, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111912361923705989</id><published>2005-06-18T15:40:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-18T15:40:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I think it&#39;s a misstep to treat all pop cultural m...</title><summary type='text'>I think it&#39;s a misstep to treat all pop cultural materials as if they are of value.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;This film (I&#39;ll call it a film), however, breaks so many rules of the &quot;action film&quot; genre, that I think it bears discussion.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Bale&#39;s delivery is right on most of the time, whether he&#39;s playing in dark/moody mode or in the role of the unwilling playboy. We can recognize many of Bruce Wayne&#39;s </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111912361923705989'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111912361923705989'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html?showComment=1119123600000#c111912361923705989' title=''/><author><name>george</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17906955143705834620</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111898213327536116' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111898213327536116' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-963165052"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 18, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111910927424128365</id><published>2005-06-18T11:41:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-18T11:41:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Dear Steven Waling,do please take the time to read...</title><summary type='text'>Dear Steven Waling,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;do please take the time to read my comment a second time. I may have been unclear, but that&#39;s how it often goes with what&#39;s quickly written. To sum it up:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I put contemporary English and Irish poetry somewhere between the anything serves of the north americans and the extreme conservatism of the cold (well not today) scandinavian peninsula.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;My </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111910927424128365'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111910927424128365'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html?showComment=1119109260000#c111910927424128365' title=''/><author><name>Lars Palm</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01806125682945620667</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111898213327536116' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111898213327536116' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1614710080"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 18, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111910542431019211</id><published>2005-06-18T10:37:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-18T10:37:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>PAULINE KAEL (VOG): Even the toes in their shoes a...</title><summary type='text'>PAULINE KAEL (VOG): Even the toes in their shoes are acting.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;JEAN-LUC GODARD (VOG): Fin du Batman!</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111910542431019211'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111910542431019211'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html?showComment=1119105420000#c111910542431019211' title=''/><author><name>Kirk Johnson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05529898733002317995</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111898213327536116' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111898213327536116' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-895736745"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 18, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111909385206501815</id><published>2005-06-18T07:24:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-18T07:24:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron,I did not mean to imply that &quot;film&quot;, if you ca...</title><summary type='text'>Ron,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I did not mean to imply that &quot;film&quot;, if you call Batman such(and I am coming from a pointed view) is not allowed to enter the context of poetry because it can.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I do not deny at all the resonance that popular culture has in literary circles.  I think that it has a very important place (just think of how Ashbery uses it to exquisite ends).&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;However, when I read </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111909385206501815'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111909385206501815'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html?showComment=1119093840000#c111909385206501815' title=''/><author><name>artoolemomo</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05079474470215090896</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111898213327536116' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111898213327536116' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1881446695"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 18, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111909115521369657</id><published>2005-06-18T06:39:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-18T06:39:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Just to be a little moany for a moment, but Lars P...</title><summary type='text'>Just to be a little moany for a moment, but Lars Palm doesn&#39;t know much about English &amp; Irish poetry if he thinks it exists in a cultural vacuum. Away to the Salt and Shearsman Press websites and others, check out John James, Ralph Hawkins, Tom Raworth, JH Prynne, Alan Fisher, Geraldine Monk, Denise Riley, Frances Presley, ooo, and countless others...</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111909115521369657'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111909115521369657'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html?showComment=1119091140000#c111909115521369657' title=''/><author><name>Steven Waling</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12004262911484220016</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111898213327536116' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111898213327536116' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-385466981"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 18, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111906309767778539</id><published>2005-06-17T22:51:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-17T22:51:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>But not everybody is Pauline Kael, Curtis. I mourn...</title><summary type='text'>But not everybody is Pauline Kael, Curtis. I mourn the days when I could go to her little theaters in Berkeley &amp; see anything from Chusingura to El Topo. Having Pauline Kael own theaters in one&#39;s home town was an education in itself.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I used to think very highly of Roger Ebert, but in recent years he&#39;s gotten soft. It used to be that you could count on a three-star review from him as </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111906309767778539'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111906309767778539'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html?showComment=1119063060000#c111906309767778539' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111898213327536116' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111898213327536116' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 17, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111906149175200047</id><published>2005-06-17T22:24:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-17T22:24:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Movie reviews are fine.  Sometimes they&#39;re better ...</title><summary type='text'>Movie reviews are fine.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Sometimes they&#39;re better than the movies.  I used to feel that way with Pauline Kael.  One of her reviews is entitled &quot;Processing Sludge&quot;.  Which is what Hollywood mostly does--make sludge.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The new Batman sounds really neat!</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111906149175200047'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111906149175200047'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html?showComment=1119061440000#c111906149175200047' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111898213327536116' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111898213327536116' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 17, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111904865967535440</id><published>2005-06-17T18:50:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-17T18:50:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>As I remember it, LW particularly loved musicals. ...</title><summary type='text'>As I remember it, LW particularly loved musicals. In part, for their therapeutic effect: He hurried to them after his seminars and slouched down in the front row to let the din and spectacle drown out the obsessive unreeling of his thoughts.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111904865967535440'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111904865967535440'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html?showComment=1119048600000#c111904865967535440' title=''/><author><name>Kirk Johnson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05529898733002317995</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111898213327536116' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111898213327536116' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-895736745"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 17, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111903268110028335</id><published>2005-06-17T14:24:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-17T14:24:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ludwig Wittgenstein loved thrillers.James Wagner</title><summary type='text'>Ludwig Wittgenstein loved thrillers.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;James Wagner</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111903268110028335'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111903268110028335'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html?showComment=1119032640000#c111903268110028335' title=''/><author><name>James</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/14066844450420389687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111898213327536116' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111898213327536116' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-564976163"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 17, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111903032570218210</id><published>2005-06-17T13:45:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-17T13:45:00.001-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Gotham isn’t “recognizably modeled” after Chicago,...</title><summary type='text'>Gotham isn’t “recognizably modeled” after Chicago, Gotham is Chicago. In fact, my wife Lina and I were driving through the South Loop one night many months ago and we passed an alley with some recognizably Batmanesque characters lurking. We had to turn around and see what the hubbub was—-bystanders informed us that we may catch a glimpse if we hung about. We had just missed the scene they were </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111903032570218210'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111903032570218210'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html?showComment=1119030300001#c111903032570218210' title=''/><author><name>incredulass</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16890154204998918984</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111898213327536116' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111898213327536116' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-286548612"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 17, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111903030857214774</id><published>2005-06-17T13:45:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-17T13:45:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>His name is actually Christian Bale.</title><summary type='text'>His name is actually Christian &lt;I&gt;Bale&lt;/I&gt;.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111903030857214774'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111903030857214774'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html?showComment=1119030300000#c111903030857214774' title=''/><author><name>Charles</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05222297450888695352</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111898213327536116' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111898213327536116' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-66319467"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 17, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111902765551554107</id><published>2005-06-17T13:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-17T13:00:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Bravo!  Bravo!  One must get out into the world ev...</title><summary type='text'>Bravo!  Bravo!  One must get out into the world even if it to Gotham City.  Yes, poetry all over.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Of course I miss Robert Mitchum.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111902765551554107'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111902765551554107'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html?showComment=1119027600000#c111902765551554107' title=''/><author><name>Lon Silliman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05557544995428892686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111898213327536116' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111898213327536116' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1747027750"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 17, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111902557484896452</id><published>2005-06-17T12:26:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-17T12:26:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;In this movie, it is style that is the narrative....</title><summary type='text'>&quot;In this movie, it is style that is the narrative....&quot; Hmmm. The &quot;stylized&quot; elements listed are: big name foreign actors cast as Americans; Blade Runner echoes in the production design; and close-up violence. What narrative do these all-too-familiar signifiers reference, if not the common Hollywood morality tale of successful independent director swallowed up by the money machine? No doubt, some </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111902557484896452'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111902557484896452'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html?showComment=1119025560000#c111902557484896452' title=''/><author><name>Kirk Johnson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05529898733002317995</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111898213327536116' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111898213327536116' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-895736745"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 17, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111902194271768836</id><published>2005-06-17T11:25:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-17T11:25:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>One of the things I find exciting about contempora...</title><summary type='text'>One of the things I find exciting about contemporary poetry in the U.S./Canada/Australia (more than,say, England and Ireland) is that anything can serve as material for a poem. In Sweden (where I am) poetry and, most of all, poetry publishing is embarassingly conservative. This includes the ideas that poetry rises out of a vacuum or from the Tortured Soul of the Poet and that poetry is for those </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111902194271768836'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111902194271768836'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html?showComment=1119021900000#c111902194271768836' title=''/><author><name>Lars Palm</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01806125682945620667</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111898213327536116' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111898213327536116' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1614710080"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 17, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111901512761052867</id><published>2005-06-17T09:32:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-17T09:32:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>If you don&#39;t admit Batman into conversations on po...</title><summary type='text'>If you don&#39;t admit Batman into conversations on poetry, you&#39;re not doing poetry service. We don&#39;t seem to have a problem with Sappho&#39;s &quot;if loving you is wrong, I don&#39;t want ot be right&quot; or John Donne&#39;s flea. They&#39;re classics. Well, so is Batman.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111901512761052867'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111898213327536116/comments/default/111901512761052867'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html?showComment=1119015120000#c111901512761052867' title=''/><author><name>Michael Harold</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11165160971360124629</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/consider-following-elements-of.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111898213327536116' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111898213327536116' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-626236699"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 17, 2005"/></entry></feed>