<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post112413219013265316..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>79</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112552150706044316</id><published>2005-08-31T16:51:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-08-31T16:51:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Stephen, I am fascinated that Pol Pot liked Kropot...</title><summary type='text'>Stephen, I am fascinated that Pol Pot liked Kropotkin.  He was a student of Samir Amin in Paris (who was Marxist, and argued that western culture had to be eliminated from native cultures from what I understand).&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In an interview toward the end of his life Pol Pot said that he was a very gentle person, with a gentle position, and that he had really helped out Cambodia by getting rid of </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112552150706044316'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112552150706044316'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html?showComment=1125521460000#c112552150706044316' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112413219013265316' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112413219013265316' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 31, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112545684175191730</id><published>2005-08-30T22:54:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-08-30T22:54:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Sorry. I shouldn&#39;t have invoked Amos&#39;s metaphor ab...</title><summary type='text'>Sorry. I shouldn&#39;t have invoked Amos&#39;s metaphor about Might Waters at THIS moment.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112545684175191730'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112545684175191730'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html?showComment=1125456840000#c112545684175191730' title=''/><author><name>Stephen Baraban</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09637400683517160112</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112413219013265316' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112413219013265316' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-290229728"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 30, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112545612546617651</id><published>2005-08-30T22:42:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-08-30T22:42:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Yah, just as for KO, Kropotkin has always seemed t...</title><summary type='text'>Yah, just as for KO, Kropotkin has always seemed to me a much more attractive character than Bakunin, but a strange, disconcerting fact is that apparently Kropotkin was a big favorite of Pol Pot of the Khmer Rouge--I&#39;ve read about this in reviews of a biography of Pol Pot by someone named Philip Short (alas, I find myself, as Marilyn Monroe once said regarding herself, &quot;reading reviews of books </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112545612546617651'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112545612546617651'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html?showComment=1125456120000#c112545612546617651' title=''/><author><name>Stephen Baraban</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09637400683517160112</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112413219013265316' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112413219013265316' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-290229728"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 30, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112542010048402726</id><published>2005-08-30T12:41:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-08-30T12:41:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Yes, we should disregard the terrorist label and s...</title><summary type='text'>Yes, we should disregard the terrorist label and simply have a category called murderous monsters.&lt;BR/&gt;That way we can be more inclusive and can be clear that an elected government can include them. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I feel that you need to read Upton Sincliar&#39;s Lanny Budd series for the resemblance of Lanny to yourself in certain senses, for the sheer wackiness and strangeness of Sinclair and because, </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112542010048402726'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112542010048402726'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html?showComment=1125420060000#c112542010048402726' title=''/><author><name>Lon Silliman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05557544995428892686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112413219013265316' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112413219013265316' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1747027750"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 30, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112541962145231375</id><published>2005-08-30T12:33:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-08-30T12:33:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The Republicans aren&#39;t arguing for Universal Democ...</title><summary type='text'>The Republicans aren&#39;t arguing for Universal Democratization.  They want the oil, the money, the influence, the empire, the ideological satisfactions -- and they don&#39;t want to pay for it with the bodies of anyone they care about or by paying for it themselves.  You analyis in re faction is pretty undisturbed by any perception of, just as a brginning, what role that word played in the creation of </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112541962145231375'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112541962145231375'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html?showComment=1125419580000#c112541962145231375' title=''/><author><name>Lon Silliman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05557544995428892686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112413219013265316' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112413219013265316' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1747027750"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 30, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112541916996317561</id><published>2005-08-30T12:26:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-08-30T12:26:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Oh, what is terrorism?  Terrorism is secretive, ra...</title><summary type='text'>Oh, what is terrorism?  Terrorism is secretive, rather than announced.  That is, if an officially elected government openly announces/declares war it is not terrorism.  If a secretive group of eco-warriors blows up a lot of SUVs, that&#39;s terrorism.  The difference is between showing one&#39;s face, and not.  I have never been a terrorist in this sense, and once my former friends started committing </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112541916996317561'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112541916996317561'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html?showComment=1125419160000#c112541916996317561' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112413219013265316' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112413219013265316' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 30, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112541396794755831</id><published>2005-08-30T10:59:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-08-30T10:59:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I was never an eco-terrorist, and I have never wor...</title><summary type='text'>I was never an eco-terrorist, and I have never worshipped George Bush.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I think however that there is a new consensus among Democrats that there is only power politics.  It&#39;s reflected for instance in Ron&#39;s understanding of poetry contests.  He argues that the only publisher for a poetry book would have to be one of your friends.  And he argues that contests are always already corrupted </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112541396794755831'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112541396794755831'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html?showComment=1125413940000#c112541396794755831' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112413219013265316' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112413219013265316' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 30, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112540323346596894</id><published>2005-08-30T08:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-08-30T08:00:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;We went from the discussion of justice to an insa...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;We went from the discussion of justice to an insane fury that was enacted in throwing buckets of paint through the windows of Starbuck&#39;s, attaching pipe bombs to the bottom of SUVs, etc.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;So once you were an eco-terrorist but are now you are a follower of Luther who worships George Bush and await the recognition of the obscure light of justice filtering down from the sky as you </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112540323346596894'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112540323346596894'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html?showComment=1125403200000#c112540323346596894' title=''/><author><name>Lon Silliman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05557544995428892686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112413219013265316' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112413219013265316' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1747027750"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 30, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112524199141414054</id><published>2005-08-28T11:13:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-08-28T11:13:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Once the Green Anarchists started blowing things u...</title><summary type='text'>Once the Green Anarchists started blowing things up, I left.  I was interested in Kropotkin and Rudolph Rocker, but I was never interested in Bakunin -- and as Bakunin came to be the principle interpreter of that movement I no longer wished any part of it.  As Marx has now taken over what remains of the left -- I no longer want any part of that either.  Marx and Bakunin were equally </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112524199141414054'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112524199141414054'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html?showComment=1125241980000#c112524199141414054' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112413219013265316' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112413219013265316' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 28, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112524159621139676</id><published>2005-08-28T11:06:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-08-28T11:06:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>An obscure light filters down from heaven to illum...</title><summary type='text'>An obscure light filters down from heaven to illuminate our earthly endeavors.  Perhaps the Carthaginians lost track of this even more completely than the Romans.  The Republicans still cite it.  The Democrats seem to have reached a common agreement that there is no longer any such thing as justice.  There is only power, and the idea is to get it and to wield it for your faction, or for your </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112524159621139676'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112524159621139676'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html?showComment=1125241560000#c112524159621139676' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112413219013265316' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112413219013265316' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 28, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112522506351270977</id><published>2005-08-28T06:31:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-08-28T06:31:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&#39;Few will be able to guess how sad one had to be i...</title><summary type='text'>&#39;Few will be able to guess how sad one had to be in order to resuscitate Carthage.’</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112522506351270977'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112522506351270977'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html?showComment=1125225060000#c112522506351270977' title=''/><author><name>Dan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01390053646668652290</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112413219013265316' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112413219013265316' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-857295758"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 28, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112519794728334743</id><published>2005-08-27T22:59:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-08-27T22:59:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The poets of Carthage were all liberals and were w...</title><summary type='text'>The poets of Carthage were all liberals and were wiped out by the army -- the set them on fire. Zell Miller was there in one of his first incarnations and he quite enjoyed the spectacle.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112519794728334743'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112519794728334743'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html?showComment=1125197940000#c112519794728334743' title=''/><author><name>Lon Silliman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05557544995428892686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112413219013265316' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112413219013265316' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1747027750"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 27, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112517821954778676</id><published>2005-08-27T17:30:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-08-27T17:30:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>On the other hand it may be possible that the Gree...</title><summary type='text'>On the other hand it may be possible that the Greeks and Romans are worth studying because they won for a REASON.  That is to say that either God was on their side (hee hee) or that they had better poets, and the poets were worth fighting for.  Or some other reason.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And perhaps Carthage didn&#39;t have what it takes.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It is interesting that Publius Scipio -- the general who </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112517821954778676'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112517821954778676'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html?showComment=1125178200000#c112517821954778676' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112413219013265316' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112413219013265316' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 27, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112517226573120208</id><published>2005-08-27T15:51:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-08-27T15:51:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Oh, what a sad story this story of English poesy i...</title><summary type='text'>Oh, what a sad story this story of English poesy is.  Not accurate, however -- treating the whole thing as an imposition of the ruling classes and, ultimately of the old Greeks and Romans.  Ovid once more having his way!  Again this comes from the rather silly but very human yen to make grand narratives that all are, finally, about you.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Poetry, of course, is just what makes nonsense of</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112517226573120208'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112517226573120208'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html?showComment=1125172260000#c112517226573120208' title=''/><author><name>Lon Silliman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05557544995428892686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112413219013265316' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112413219013265316' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1747027750"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 27, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112516467415624959</id><published>2005-08-27T13:44:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-08-27T13:44:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I guess that line needs unpacking.  The Irish corr...</title><summary type='text'>I guess that line needs unpacking.  The Irish correspondent was saying that too much of our poetry is based on Greece and Rome, but Greece and Rome and the west tradition has wiped out the others.  There&#39;s nothing left of Carthaginian poetry.  We know from Augustine that they did have it.  He praises it.  But it&#39;s all gone.  And then the Spanish for instance burnt the huge library of the Mayans.&lt;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112516467415624959'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112516467415624959'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html?showComment=1125164640000#c112516467415624959' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112413219013265316' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112413219013265316' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 27, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112514738534546935</id><published>2005-08-27T08:56:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-08-27T08:56:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Whatever happened to the poets of Carthage?</title><summary type='text'>Whatever happened to the poets of Carthage?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112514738534546935'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112514738534546935'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html?showComment=1125147360000#c112514738534546935' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112413219013265316' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112413219013265316' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 27, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112511921550853492</id><published>2005-08-27T01:06:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-08-27T01:06:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;...From Los Angeles this is Sundown Lounge show n...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;...From Los Angeles this is Sundown Lounge show number 5....&quot; &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;is a poetry podcast I am listening to here at R&#39;s publishing cybergallery, which he is so kindly allowing us to exhibit at whilst he tirelessly works at his vacation/poetry reading.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I am thinking that this is the best poetry podcast of the 31 I have turned up, tuned into as a dropped out lover of all things which </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112511921550853492'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112511921550853492'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html?showComment=1125119160000#c112511921550853492' title=''/><author><name>Scalljah</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/14578109925453070447</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112413219013265316' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112413219013265316' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1613744976"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 27, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112510514735043809</id><published>2005-08-26T21:12:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-08-26T21:12:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ha!  comparing Peter Singer to Caligula.  That&#39;s l...</title><summary type='text'>Ha!  comparing Peter Singer to Caligula.  That&#39;s like the infamous comparison of the umbrella and the sewing machine.  Of course one could say that they are both shitheads, but to get my own head out of the toilet for a second I would have to say that they are quite different kinds of shitheads.  Caligula enjoyed Sadism, and Singer has written extensively against the right of humans to submit </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112510514735043809'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112510514735043809'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html?showComment=1125105120000#c112510514735043809' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112413219013265316' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112413219013265316' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 26, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112509642509201209</id><published>2005-08-26T18:47:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-08-26T18:47:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>KO: get a load of this. Some of your bette noirs h...</title><summary type='text'>KO: get a load of this. Some of your bette noirs here. You mentioned Dr. Moreau above and I remembered this article. Link&#39;s below this excerpt.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Twisted Pleasures&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The aestheticization of reality and, indeed, life has discernible personal and social consequences. In Creativity and Perversion (1984), Janine Chasseguet-Smirgel identifies them by examining the psychological </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112509642509201209'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112509642509201209'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html?showComment=1125096420000#c112509642509201209' title=''/><author><name>Dan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01390053646668652290</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112413219013265316' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112413219013265316' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-857295758"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 26, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112508987371073809</id><published>2005-08-26T16:57:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-08-26T16:57:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>By isolating the Ronster&#39;s School of Queititude id...</title><summary type='text'>By isolating the Ronster&#39;s School of Queititude idea and running it through the mind on a track of my own choosing, means I can become what Kavanagh describes as &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;A notorious nobody in a world of bores&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;by moaning about the anglo-centric bias the mainstream wo/men have been accused of having by other posters, closer to the US action than myself. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The fallacy that </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112508987371073809'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112508987371073809'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html?showComment=1125089820000#c112508987371073809' title=''/><author><name>Scalljah</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/14578109925453070447</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112413219013265316' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112413219013265316' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1613744976"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 26, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112508435873169853</id><published>2005-08-26T15:25:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-08-26T15:25:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I don&#39;t think it&#39;s too darned hard to listen to Co...</title><summary type='text'>I don&#39;t think it&#39;s too darned hard to listen to Condoleeza Rice.  How did you get that idea?  I read a nice article about her in AARP -- supposedly the world&#39;s largest subscription magazine --  it is for the over-50 crowd.  I&#39;m not quite there, but am about to be in a year or so.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;She plays the piano quite well, she speaks several languages, her dad was a minister in Birmingham so she </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112508435873169853'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112508435873169853'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html?showComment=1125084300000#c112508435873169853' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112413219013265316' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112413219013265316' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 26, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112501875776351546</id><published>2005-08-25T21:12:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-08-25T21:12:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>And at any moment God will come back.  I&#39;ll meet y...</title><summary type='text'>And at any moment God will come back.  I&#39;ll meet you where Ron posts about a &quot;big, fat book of wonderful essays.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Yes -- lots of choices!  You&#39;ll kmow me by my Henry Darger eyes!</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112501875776351546'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112501875776351546'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html?showComment=1125018720000#c112501875776351546' title=''/><author><name>Lon Silliman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05557544995428892686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112413219013265316' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112413219013265316' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1747027750"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 25, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112500238026439290</id><published>2005-08-25T16:39:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-08-25T16:39:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Condi Rice.  Not all of us call her Condoleeza.  W...</title><summary type='text'>Condi Rice.  Not all of us call her Condoleeza.  We just say &quot;I say hey Condi.  Take a walk on the wild side.&quot;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112500238026439290'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112500238026439290'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html?showComment=1125002340000#c112500238026439290' title=''/><author><name>Lon Silliman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05557544995428892686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112413219013265316' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112413219013265316' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1747027750"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 25, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112498762394406795</id><published>2005-08-25T12:33:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2005-08-25T12:33:00.001-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Did you mean Gandhi?</title><summary type='text'>Did you mean Gandhi?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112498762394406795'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112498762394406795'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html?showComment=1124987580001#c112498762394406795' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112413219013265316' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112413219013265316' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 25, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112498759205104295</id><published>2005-08-25T12:33:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-08-25T12:33:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Condi?</title><summary type='text'>Condi?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112498759205104295'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112413219013265316/comments/default/112498759205104295'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html?showComment=1124987580000#c112498759205104295' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/08/one-of-grimmer-aspects-of-response-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112413219013265316' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112413219013265316' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 25, 2005"/></entry></feed>