<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post113047151386960170..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>20</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113073386254672274</id><published>2005-10-30T23:44:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-10-30T23:44:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I suppose I bear some responsibility for the digni...</title><summary type='text'>I suppose I bear some responsibility for the dignified progression of this discussion. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Since you proclaim to have read everything I have, I’m glad my work, as soon as I read it over on my notepad, enters your long term memory, wherein it complies with your wish fulfillment for everything to be mediocre.  Keeping readers happy since the Ford Administration, that’s me.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;BTW: </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113073386254672274'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113073386254672274'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html?showComment=1130733840000#c113073386254672274' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113047151386960170' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113047151386960170' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 30, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113063322828438359</id><published>2005-10-29T20:47:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-29T20:47:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Just write them yourself or use what you already h...</title><summary type='text'>Just write them yourself or use what you already have!</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113063322828438359'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113063322828438359'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html?showComment=1130633220000#c113063322828438359' title=''/><author><name>joe green</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12257285616529795340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113047151386960170' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113047151386960170' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1849826838"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 29, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113062103068764607</id><published>2005-10-29T17:23:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-29T17:23:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>My shipment for The Anthology of Poems To Oppose t...</title><summary type='text'>My shipment for The Anthology of Poems To Oppose to KE Duffin But Probably Suffer From the Same Defects has been delayed, so you may have to wait.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113062103068764607'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113062103068764607'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html?showComment=1130620980000#c113062103068764607' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113047151386960170' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113047151386960170' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 29, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113060383790932162</id><published>2005-10-29T12:37:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-29T12:37:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I thought Ian&#39;s comment was, well, funny.</title><summary type='text'>I thought Ian&#39;s comment was, well, funny.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113060383790932162'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113060383790932162'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html?showComment=1130603820000#c113060383790932162' title=''/><author><name>andy gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00797822725132844348</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113047151386960170' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113047151386960170' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1436621432"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 29, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113060313427186698</id><published>2005-10-29T12:25:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-29T12:25:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Dear Ian, scorn not the sonnet -- or better yet do...</title><summary type='text'>Dear Ian, scorn not the sonnet -- or better yet don&#39;t give a damn if the poem is a sonnet or not and for God&#39;s sake don&#39;t prattle about meter.  Get to whether anything happens at all -- and forget your fantasies and resentments in re whether this poem was workshopped, who his teacher was(I guess that&#39;s your point).  I mean why do you even know this -- are you a secret reader of Poets and Writers </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113060313427186698'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113060313427186698'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html?showComment=1130603100000#c113060313427186698' title=''/><author><name>joe green</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12257285616529795340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113047151386960170' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113047151386960170' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1849826838"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 29, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113057027019953887</id><published>2005-10-29T03:17:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-29T03:17:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Greenspan, however, would manipulate the values of...</title><summary type='text'>Greenspan, however, would manipulate the values of any poetic act based on the current market preferences of his corporate sponsors.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113057027019953887'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113057027019953887'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html?showComment=1130570220000#c113057027019953887' title=''/><author><name>andy gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00797822725132844348</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113047151386960170' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113047151386960170' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1436621432"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 29, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113056332544697101</id><published>2005-10-29T01:22:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-29T01:22:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Andrea Baker is damn fine.  Perhaps there ought to...</title><summary type='text'>Andrea Baker is damn fine.  Perhaps there ought to be a ratio established to use when giving out awards...one point per contest entered divided by the number of those won.  Perhaps Alan Greenspan could be invited to judge based on complex indices of market compliance coupled with the GPA and an allowance rendered for the IQ of the poet (in bold) which is usually noted by using French somewhere in</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113056332544697101'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113056332544697101'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html?showComment=1130563320000#c113056332544697101' title=''/><author><name>Lady Jane</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04555982712708881025</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113047151386960170' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113047151386960170' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1542572767"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 29, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113055369764058500</id><published>2005-10-28T22:41:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-28T22:41:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Can&#39;t kid a kidder, Ian. And yes, Barthes. Damn go...</title><summary type='text'>Can&#39;t kid a kidder, Ian. And yes, Barthes. Damn good translations, those.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113055369764058500'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113055369764058500'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html?showComment=1130553660000#c113055369764058500' title=''/><author><name>Kirk Johnson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05529898733002317995</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113047151386960170' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113047151386960170' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-895736745"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 28, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113055341875386747</id><published>2005-10-28T22:36:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-28T22:36:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I&#39;m not sure that jazz is the word I&#39;d use to defi...</title><summary type='text'>I&#39;m not sure that jazz is the word I&#39;d use to define Mr. Duffin&#39;s rather undainty iambics. &quot;I&#39;m-not-Herakles&quot; is a good start, but stumbles over its own sore feet something less than halfway up that hill, for me. Tough hill, though. Lots of bootprints on it.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113055341875386747'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113055341875386747'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html?showComment=1130553360000#c113055341875386747' title=''/><author><name>Kirk Johnson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05529898733002317995</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113047151386960170' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113047151386960170' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-895736745"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 28, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113055251288925302</id><published>2005-10-28T22:21:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-28T22:21:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Mean Joe, Bronze Age Helmet:My college advisor (a ...</title><summary type='text'>Mean Joe, Bronze Age Helmet:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;My college advisor (a Morrow guy) said sonnets are always a little off.. Here it’s the stitched/ snip. Why not go all the way and be Berriganian?  Another recent teacher at a residency (I had gone to for the fiction guy) I will not name never critiqued anything about a poem but its meter, strict metrics of course.  Meaning meant nothing, even if you are </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113055251288925302'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113055251288925302'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html?showComment=1130552460000#c113055251288925302' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113047151386960170' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113047151386960170' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 28, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113053816905680113</id><published>2005-10-28T18:22:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-28T18:22:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>But I like &quot;Bronze Age Helmet.&quot;  Has a certain jaz...</title><summary type='text'>But I like &quot;Bronze Age Helmet.&quot;  Has a certain jazz, yes the genre is poet contemplating something in a museum but the requisite ending is avoided a bit and there is a certain intensity in its unfashionableness and a certain exactness.  Certainly. And if attention is paid a good story and a fine contrast between the boar and the flower and the &quot;But I am not Heracles&quot; damn fine.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113053816905680113'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113053816905680113'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html?showComment=1130538120000#c113053816905680113' title=''/><author><name>joe green</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12257285616529795340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113047151386960170' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113047151386960170' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1849826838"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 28, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113053496410887659</id><published>2005-10-28T17:29:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-28T17:29:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Rapprochement? Hardly so: I heard those tasteful g...</title><summary type='text'>Rapprochement? Hardly so: I heard those tasteful gates clunk shut behind me long, long ago. My digs are elsewhere, if a bit retro in their clutter. But true: this sample doesn&#39;t help. Brecht says somewhere that poems aren&#39;t meant to get along well together: bad dogs that they are. Prize winners don&#39;t often show their teeth, do they? Cruel, cruel to describe...</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113053496410887659'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113053496410887659'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html?showComment=1130534940000#c113053496410887659' title=''/><author><name>Kirk Johnson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05529898733002317995</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113047151386960170' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113047151386960170' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-895736745"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 28, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113053236592671439</id><published>2005-10-28T16:46:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-28T16:46:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>OK, yeah.  Just what&#39;s missing?  NF right.  Alas. ...</title><summary type='text'>OK, yeah.  Just what&#39;s missing?  NF right.  Alas.  But why ever read that magazine?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113053236592671439'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113053236592671439'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html?showComment=1130532360000#c113053236592671439' title=''/><author><name>joe green</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12257285616529795340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113047151386960170' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113047151386960170' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1849826838"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 28, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113051371168074705</id><published>2005-10-28T11:35:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-28T11:35:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Norman,They always do.</title><summary type='text'>Norman,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;They always do.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113051371168074705'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113051371168074705'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html?showComment=1130513700000#c113051371168074705' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113047151386960170' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113047151386960170' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 28, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113051333791846972</id><published>2005-10-28T11:28:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-28T11:28:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Well, you&#39;ve got me there, Ron--Breslin&#39;s work def...</title><summary type='text'>Well, you&#39;ve got me there, Ron--Breslin&#39;s work definitely shaped my thinking back then, as did Altieri&#39;s in a similar mode (and mood).  And of course, I&#39;m always hesitant to make sweeping generalizations, though I usually go ahead and do it anyway, if just to play the provocateur.  But I admire your taste, and will look at the &lt;I&gt;books&lt;/I&gt; of those poets you mention: the point being that the true</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113051333791846972'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113051333791846972'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html?showComment=1130513280000#c113051333791846972' title=''/><author><name>Norman Finkelstein</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03673105579717018812</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113047151386960170' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113047151386960170' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-282372784"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 28, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113051060509946868</id><published>2005-10-28T10:43:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-28T10:43:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Conveniently, the poet I enjoyed goes alphabetical...</title><summary type='text'>Conveniently, the poet I enjoyed goes alphabetically first, and after that the selections could be Exhibit A in the case against MFAs, except Matthew Shenoda’s is also enjoyable.  I don’t know Andrea Baker either, she comes off in this example an anecdotal Barrett Watten, but googling her other stuff she gets into more of her own terrain.  Those university press poets can’t help Kirk with his SoQ</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113051060509946868'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113051060509946868'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html?showComment=1130510580000#c113051060509946868' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113047151386960170' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113047151386960170' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 28, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113051051197531046</id><published>2005-10-28T10:41:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-28T10:41:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Norman, You didn&#39;t have to get that notarized, rea...</title><summary type='text'>Norman, &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You didn&#39;t have to get that notarized, really, but we appreciate the gesture.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The argument you are suggesting is not that far from Jim Breslin&#39;s about contemporary poetry circa the late 1970s when he saw it as all being one mode of suburban aesthetic, and that all the old conflicts (betwixt, in his day &amp; his view, the raw &amp; the cooked) had been given up for a new sort </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113051051197531046'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113051051197531046'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html?showComment=1130510460000#c113051051197531046' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113047151386960170' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113047151386960170' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 28, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113050388974504292</id><published>2005-10-28T08:51:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-28T08:51:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I apologize in advance for offering a comment rath...</title><summary type='text'>I apologize in advance for offering a comment rather than an exhaustive critique, but after reading the poems in the miniature anthology, I couldn&#39;t help but regard it as the best argument I&#39;ve ever seen for the idea of a &quot;period style.&quot;  The same oblique gestures over and over; the same slightly bemused, quizzical, or mildly excited mood; the same middle level of diction; the same lackadaisical </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113050388974504292'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113050388974504292'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html?showComment=1130503860000#c113050388974504292' title=''/><author><name>Norman Finkelstein</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03673105579717018812</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113047151386960170' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113047151386960170' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-282372784"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 28, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113049663729861341</id><published>2005-10-28T06:50:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-28T06:50:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Noah, you do a better job of counting than do I. Y...</title><summary type='text'>Noah, you do a better job of counting than do I. You&#39;re right. I&#39;ll change that.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113049663729861341'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113049663729861341'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html?showComment=1130496600000#c113049663729861341' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113047151386960170' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113047151386960170' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 28, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113048098192203280</id><published>2005-10-28T02:29:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-28T02:29:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I count, and not that I&#39;m &quot;counting&quot;, mind you, fo...</title><summary type='text'>I count, and not that I&#39;m &quot;counting&quot;, mind you, four people of color. Just thought I&#39;d let ya know...</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113048098192203280'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113047151386960170/comments/default/113048098192203280'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html?showComment=1130480940000#c113048098192203280' title=''/><author><name>noah</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/18378064772495989860</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-comments-stream-to-my-note-on.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113047151386960170' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113047151386960170' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1333406172"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 28, 2005"/></entry></feed>