<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post113116781217799548..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113116781217799548/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/couple-of-people-have-suggested-that.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>12</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113138344146670863</id><published>2005-11-07T12:10:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-07T12:10:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis,Do reprint the poem if you have it and it i...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Do reprint the poem if you have it and it is not too painful!  I like the idea of poetry and puberty starting in tandem.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113116781217799548/comments/default/113138344146670863'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113116781217799548/comments/default/113138344146670863'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/couple-of-people-have-suggested-that.html?showComment=1131383400000#c113138344146670863' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/couple-of-people-have-suggested-that.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113116781217799548' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113116781217799548' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 07, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113127704182640997</id><published>2005-11-06T06:37:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-06T06:37:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron,interesting swatch of history.  The peanut gal...</title><summary type='text'>Ron,&lt;BR/&gt;interesting swatch of history.  The peanut gallery here is lively, too.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Much of life is happenstance&lt;BR/&gt;meanwhile destiny &amp; ambitoun joust&lt;BR/&gt;some are Proust &amp; some are Faust&lt;BR/&gt;comedy might look askance&lt;BR/&gt;certidude could bear the cost?&lt;BR/&gt;still it was a fine romance&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;cheers,&lt;BR/&gt;d.i.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113116781217799548/comments/default/113127704182640997'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113116781217799548/comments/default/113127704182640997'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/couple-of-people-have-suggested-that.html?showComment=1131277020000#c113127704182640997' title=''/><author><name>david raphael israel</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07535589040322113419</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/couple-of-people-have-suggested-that.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113116781217799548' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113116781217799548' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1441140986"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 06, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113123525715190577</id><published>2005-11-05T19:00:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-05T19:00:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ian:  I&#39;m not half so irritable as you make me out...</title><summary type='text'>Ian:  I&#39;m not half so irritable as you make me out to be.  I&#39;m just an eclectic bloke trying to retire gracefully.  Not exactly doing pas-de-deux, but walking on the balls of my feet, as it is said ballplayers should do.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I wrote my first poem on assignment in Mr. Mancillas&#39;s college prep 10th grade English class at Silverado Junior High in 1962.  I was at that time reading Henry </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113116781217799548/comments/default/113123525715190577'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113116781217799548/comments/default/113123525715190577'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/couple-of-people-have-suggested-that.html?showComment=1131235200000#c113123525715190577' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/couple-of-people-have-suggested-that.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113116781217799548' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113116781217799548' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 05, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113123414980986159</id><published>2005-11-05T18:42:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-05T18:42:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>What I like about fake Wattens is you can get them...</title><summary type='text'>What I like about fake Wattens is you can get them in the East Village for ten dollars on the street.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;A biographer by trade, he can&#39;t understand why George Clooney is unlikely to feel threatened by the puritanical excesses of feminism, and doesn&#39;t remember having rented Mamet&#39;s Oleanna.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;My back shed houses a family of chipmunks that reads Traditon and the Individual Talent </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113116781217799548/comments/default/113123414980986159'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113116781217799548/comments/default/113123414980986159'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/couple-of-people-have-suggested-that.html?showComment=1131234120000#c113123414980986159' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/couple-of-people-have-suggested-that.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113116781217799548' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113116781217799548' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 05, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113121917803331198</id><published>2005-11-05T14:32:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-05T14:32:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ashbery alert.  Along with Scooter Libby&#39;s porn th...</title><summary type='text'>Ashbery alert.  Along with Scooter Libby&#39;s porn the man is dominating the  recent New Yorker.  He has a unhealthy-looking spider plant standing on a side table, declares that it&#39;s ok to not want to read poetry and  he still must keep a day job.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113116781217799548/comments/default/113121917803331198'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113116781217799548/comments/default/113121917803331198'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/couple-of-people-have-suggested-that.html?showComment=1131219120000#c113121917803331198' title=''/><author><name>joe green</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12257285616529795340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/couple-of-people-have-suggested-that.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113116781217799548' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113116781217799548' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1849826838"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 05, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113121119242612611</id><published>2005-11-05T12:19:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-05T12:19:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>On mimicry of ones predecessors:It might be a matt...</title><summary type='text'>On mimicry of ones predecessors:&lt;BR/&gt;It might be a matter of how the imitation is carried out. I think the first real improvement in my writing happened in poems that were &lt;I&gt;failed&lt;/I&gt; imitations of my favorite poets (at that time, O&#39;Hara and Olson). Later, as my general facility with writing improved, I tried to imitate people I liked and was better at it--so the results were disappointing. My </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113116781217799548/comments/default/113121119242612611'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113116781217799548/comments/default/113121119242612611'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/couple-of-people-have-suggested-that.html?showComment=1131211140000#c113121119242612611' title=''/><author><name>andy gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00797822725132844348</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/couple-of-people-have-suggested-that.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113116781217799548' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113116781217799548' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1436621432"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 05, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113121081212195365</id><published>2005-11-05T12:13:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-05T12:13:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Commander Kirby Olson of POET RESCUE!The Young Ron...</title><summary type='text'>Commander Kirby Olson of POET RESCUE!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The Young Ron. The young St.Paul. Both on the road to Damascus. George Clooney in Hell.&lt;BR/&gt;Joe McCarthy -- well, he&#39;s so fifties</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113116781217799548/comments/default/113121081212195365'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113116781217799548/comments/default/113121081212195365'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/couple-of-people-have-suggested-that.html?showComment=1131210780000#c113121081212195365' title=''/><author><name>joe green</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12257285616529795340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/couple-of-people-have-suggested-that.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113116781217799548' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113116781217799548' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1849826838"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 05, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113121064083761887</id><published>2005-11-05T12:10:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-05T12:10:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113116781217799548/comments/default/113121064083761887'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113116781217799548/comments/default/113121064083761887'/><author><name>joe green</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12257285616529795340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/couple-of-people-have-suggested-that.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113116781217799548' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113116781217799548' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1849826838"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 05, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113120784857319040</id><published>2005-11-05T11:24:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-05T11:24:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>There&#39;s nothing deeply wrong with &quot;Youra.&quot; It has ...</title><summary type='text'>There&#39;s nothing deeply wrong with &quot;Youra.&quot; It has a generous social impulse that continues to characterize the poet today, it has what I take to be genuine pain regarding the imprisonment of Greek poets, it has good description.  Perhaps the worst feature is still a common feature of the American left -- the attempt to present right-wing fascism as an excuse for left-wing fascism, when it would </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113116781217799548/comments/default/113120784857319040'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113116781217799548/comments/default/113120784857319040'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/couple-of-people-have-suggested-that.html?showComment=1131207840000#c113120784857319040' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/couple-of-people-have-suggested-that.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113116781217799548' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113116781217799548' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 05, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113120045943454012</id><published>2005-11-05T09:20:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-05T09:20:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ms. Armantrout has published this example of her f...</title><summary type='text'>Ms. Armantrout has published this example of her first-grade work (in True, Atelos, 1998):&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The little fish swim&lt;BR/&gt;around and around&lt;BR/&gt;and away&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;She comments: &quot;I still like it. I wouldn&#39;t write another that good until I was twenty-one.&quot;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113116781217799548/comments/default/113120045943454012'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113116781217799548/comments/default/113120045943454012'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/couple-of-people-have-suggested-that.html?showComment=1131200400000#c113120045943454012' title=''/><author><name>Kirk Johnson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05529898733002317995</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/couple-of-people-have-suggested-that.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113116781217799548' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113116781217799548' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-895736745"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 05, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113118441970933745</id><published>2005-11-05T04:53:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-05T04:53:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>&#39; By that point, I was actually writing, not just ...</title><summary type='text'>&#39; By that point, &lt;BR/&gt;I was actually writing, &lt;BR/&gt;not just mimicking my elders.&#39;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You &#39;seem&#39; to be positing an authentic writing as opposed to a forgery--a retracing of old lines. Surely mimicry is pervasive in all styles of writing--and experimental writing engenders its own mimics and stereotypics. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Does mimicry actually subside as we develop and hone our craft or is it that </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113116781217799548/comments/default/113118441970933745'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113116781217799548/comments/default/113118441970933745'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/couple-of-people-have-suggested-that.html?showComment=1131184380000#c113118441970933745' title=''/><author><name>ideaist.wordpress.com</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11326216841108224361</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/couple-of-people-have-suggested-that.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113116781217799548' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113116781217799548' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-805121679"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 05, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113117944895854041</id><published>2005-11-05T03:30:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-05T03:30:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Just in case it seemed like I did, I should point ...</title><summary type='text'>Just in case it seemed like I did, I should point out that I don&#39;t consider writing &quot;in the Grenier mode&quot; to be a bad thing (whether you were doing it or not). There are much worse modes to write in; Grenier is not only mind-blowing but also (especially in &lt;I&gt;A Day at the Beach&lt;/I&gt;) knock-you-off-your-chair hilarious. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I think my most successful poem in the Grenier mode is:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;her</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113116781217799548/comments/default/113117944895854041'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113116781217799548/comments/default/113117944895854041'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/couple-of-people-have-suggested-that.html?showComment=1131179400000#c113117944895854041' title=''/><author><name>andy gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00797822725132844348</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/couple-of-people-have-suggested-that.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113116781217799548' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113116781217799548' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1436621432"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 05, 2005"/></entry></feed>