<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post113173735984644722..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>83</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113270528961225807</id><published>2005-11-22T19:21:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-22T19:21:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I have to make a couple clarifiations -- I used te...</title><summary type='text'>I have to make a couple clarifiations -- I used teh world grief. that&#39;s a better word fro what I feel. Guilt is perhaps applicable, but has teh wrong connotations.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But my whole point is that not enough was done to stop these things; not enough was done to stop Viet Nam; not enough is being done to stop Iraq. Americans are guilty of a criminal level of passivity.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;moer effective </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113270528961225807'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113270528961225807'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html?showComment=1132705260000#c113270528961225807' title=''/><author><name>steve in taipei</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113173735984644722' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113173735984644722' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 22, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113269908024034427</id><published>2005-11-22T17:38:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-22T17:38:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The one thing we don&#39;t do with such privileges is ...</title><summary type='text'>The one thing we don&#39;t do with such privileges is place upon ourselves guilt because of them.  Guilt is (or should be) an emotion based upon regret for an action/inaction on our part.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;So, feeling guilty for Vietnam is an emotional thing that has no rational/reasonable basis.  This is different than feeling guilty for Squandering privilege.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Placing upon ourselves a feeling of</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113269908024034427'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113269908024034427'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html?showComment=1132699080000#c113269908024034427' title=''/><author><name>Brett</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09958984151677722851</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113173735984644722' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113173735984644722' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1222757787"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 22, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113266065202343739</id><published>2005-11-22T06:57:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-22T06:57:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Thank you both for your thoughful commentary. I wo...</title><summary type='text'>Thank you both for your thoughful commentary. I would have replid sooner, but I was looking at other entries, This blog is lke a smorgasbord [sp]. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;anyway, I agree with bothof you. I am not a fan of collective guilt by any means. At the same time, thugh one&#39;s rational mind thinks one way, one&#39;s emotions think another. it is not so much guilt, it is more sympathy and compassion. The viet </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113266065202343739'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113266065202343739'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html?showComment=1132660620000#c113266065202343739' title=''/><author><name>steve in taipei</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113173735984644722' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113173735984644722' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 22, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113265606031659391</id><published>2005-11-22T05:41:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-22T05:41:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Brett:In defense of Steve&#39;s guilt, I ask what you ...</title><summary type='text'>Brett:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In defense of Steve&#39;s guilt, I ask what you do with the fact that:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;we all have privileges we never asked for, on larger or smaller scales, economically, biologically, culturally, you name it.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;What sustains those privileges?&lt;BR/&gt;Do we take advantage of them, in greed, thoughtlessness, desperation, or because there&#39;s no reason not to, or because refusing whatever </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113265606031659391'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113265606031659391'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html?showComment=1132656060000#c113265606031659391' title=''/><author><name>andy gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00797822725132844348</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113173735984644722' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113173735984644722' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1436621432"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 22, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113263725992114561</id><published>2005-11-22T00:27:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-22T00:27:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Your guilt seems pathological, the result of some ...</title><summary type='text'>Your guilt seems pathological, the result of some strange inability to distance yourself from your possible labels (american) and the way you may be perceived/judged due to that label (even in totally illogical circumstances).  You are not responsible for Vietnam, just as you are not responsible for slavery.  You are also not responsible for the first Gulf War, the present War, or the whereabouts</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113263725992114561'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113263725992114561'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html?showComment=1132637220000#c113263725992114561' title=''/><author><name>Brett</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09958984151677722851</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113173735984644722' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113173735984644722' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1222757787"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 22, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113256230294029178</id><published>2005-11-21T03:38:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-21T03:38:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Dear Curtis,I had forgotten I posted this, hence m...</title><summary type='text'>Dear Curtis,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I had forgotten I posted this, hence my late reply.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I agree, perhaps changing nationality is the way to go. But it is not as easy as one two three&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But I do not feel myself absolved from these atrocities [by living abraod]. Actually I feel more guilty than ever, since as I explained in a previous post, I am surrounded by Asian peple everyday, who are my </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113256230294029178'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113256230294029178'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html?showComment=1132562280000#c113256230294029178' title=''/><author><name>steve in taipei</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113173735984644722' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113173735984644722' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 21, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113253807531372647</id><published>2005-11-20T20:54:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-20T20:54:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis,Absolutely. Or it would be self-evident if ...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Absolutely. Or it would be self-evident if not for the very obfuscation you mention.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Not that the academy necessarily performs this job well.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Andy</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113253807531372647'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113253807531372647'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html?showComment=1132538040000#c113253807531372647' title=''/><author><name>andy gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00797822725132844348</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113173735984644722' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113173735984644722' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1436621432"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 20, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113253774835872153</id><published>2005-11-20T20:49:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-20T20:49:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Well, I shouldn&#39;t speak for him, but Barry Watten ...</title><summary type='text'>Well, I shouldn&#39;t speak for him, but Barry Watten made the clear point that tuning the language and insisting on the precision and validity of the meaning of the words we use is the first duty of the academy.  It is our first, and possibly, best defense against propaganda, the dumbing down of debate and discourse, and the corruption of the media.  If citizens are skeptical of what they hear, and </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113253774835872153'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113253774835872153'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html?showComment=1132537740000#c113253774835872153' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113173735984644722' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113173735984644722' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 20, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113251504451307372</id><published>2005-11-20T14:30:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-20T14:30:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>That&#39;s really the issue, isn&#39;t it?Whether leaving ...</title><summary type='text'>That&#39;s really the issue, isn&#39;t it?&lt;BR/&gt;Whether leaving would do any good, or would just make one feel less like they were in the &quot;belly of the beast.&quot; Can I do better work here or elsewhere?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;No, phosphorous is the real issue. Where you live is secondary.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It&#39;s also secondary to the kind of care and enthusiasm for poetry a lot of people here show every day, every other day, every </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113251504451307372'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113251504451307372'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html?showComment=1132515000000#c113251504451307372' title=''/><author><name>andy gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00797822725132844348</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113173735984644722' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113173735984644722' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1436621432"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 20, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113250989934356148</id><published>2005-11-20T13:04:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-20T13:04:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Stevie:Certainly, living in Taipei absolves one of...</title><summary type='text'>Stevie:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Certainly, living in Taipei absolves one of all responsibility for the acts one&#39;s native country commits, whereas those who, by accident or determination, remain at home, are automatically implicated.  This is a fallacious syllogism, but it could be corrected by one&#39;s renouncing one&#39;s citizenship, and adopting that of another nation, an act that would give validity to the </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113250989934356148'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113250989934356148'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html?showComment=1132509840000#c113250989934356148' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113173735984644722' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113173735984644722' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 20, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113250340475984775</id><published>2005-11-20T11:16:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-20T11:16:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Brett, I haven&#39;t read the text you cite.  I know w...</title><summary type='text'>Brett, I haven&#39;t read the text you cite.  I know where to find it -- there&#39;s a set of the Collected Writings of Luther at a nearby college -- but I have never gotten around to reading that one essay (I think three are two essays against the Jews).  Apparently Luther was flabbergasted that the Jews didn&#39;t become Lutherans even after he had set the institution of the Christian church back on its </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113250340475984775'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113250340475984775'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html?showComment=1132503360000#c113250340475984775' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113173735984644722' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113173735984644722' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 20, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113249705969554345</id><published>2005-11-20T09:30:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-20T09:30:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>What are its effects? If particles of ignited whit...</title><summary type='text'>What are its effects? &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;If particles of ignited white phosphorus land on a person&#39;s skin, they can continue to burn right through flesh to the bone. Toxic phosphoric acid can also be released into wounds, risking phosphorus poisoning. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Skin burns must be immersed in water or covered with wet cloths to prevent re-combustion until the particles can be removed. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Exposure to</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113249705969554345'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113249705969554345'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html?showComment=1132497000000#c113249705969554345' title=''/><author><name>steve in taipei</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113173735984644722' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113173735984644722' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 20, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113247508066558800</id><published>2005-11-20T03:24:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-20T03:24:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I made no link to Nazis.  Only to Martin Luther, &quot;...</title><summary type='text'>I made no link to Nazis.  Only to Martin Luther, &quot;On The Jews and Their Lies,&quot; 1543.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113247508066558800'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113247508066558800'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html?showComment=1132475040000#c113247508066558800' title=''/><author><name>Brett</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09958984151677722851</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113173735984644722' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113173735984644722' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1222757787"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 20, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113245794642174788</id><published>2005-11-19T22:39:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-19T22:39:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>the institution does the &quot;thinking&quot; through its &quot;m...</title><summary type='text'>the institution does the &quot;thinking&quot; through &lt;BR/&gt;its &quot;mind,&quot; policy. it&lt;BR/&gt;can very well &quot;hate&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;in our stead.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;hot air?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113245794642174788'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113245794642174788'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html?showComment=1132457940000#c113245794642174788' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113173735984644722' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113173735984644722' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 19, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113245785045850832</id><published>2005-11-19T22:37:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-19T22:37:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>an attemptto show that individualsdon&#39;t have to ha...</title><summary type='text'>an attempt&lt;BR/&gt;to show &lt;BR/&gt;that individuals&lt;BR/&gt;don&#39;t have to hate &lt;BR/&gt;a group&lt;BR/&gt;for the group&lt;BR/&gt;to be repressed&lt;BR/&gt;or killed&lt;BR/&gt;by a trans-individual entity&lt;BR/&gt;that those individuals&lt;BR/&gt;support&lt;BR/&gt;with a clear conscience&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;if it was provocation&lt;BR/&gt;it was not deliberate</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113245785045850832'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113245785045850832'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html?showComment=1132457820000#c113245785045850832' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113173735984644722' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113173735984644722' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 19, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113244958699261357</id><published>2005-11-19T20:19:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-19T20:19:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Dear anonymous:Your post shows a want of skill.  I...</title><summary type='text'>Dear anonymous:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Your post shows a want of skill.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Its deliberate provocation accomplishes nothing.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Just hot air.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And that&#39;s unfortunate, since what you&#39;re apparently attempting to say might be of some interest.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Try again.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113244958699261357'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113244958699261357'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html?showComment=1132449540000#c113244958699261357' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113173735984644722' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113173735984644722' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 19, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113235825513235387</id><published>2005-11-18T18:57:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-18T18:57:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>On individuals:Billy hates some Jews. Jane hates a...</title><summary type='text'>On individuals:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Billy hates some Jews. Jane hates a lot of Jews. Doug hates a few Jews. They all think that the bad parts have something do do with them being Jews, though they&#39;ll all say, &quot;I don&#39;t hate Jews; I have Jewish friends.&quot; Then they all get together and vote in the Nazis. Suddenly they have a government, and the government hates ALL Jews, and sets up the whole society to get </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113235825513235387'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113235825513235387'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html?showComment=1132358220000#c113235825513235387' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113173735984644722' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113173735984644722' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 18, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113233620031841306</id><published>2005-11-18T12:50:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-18T12:50:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I think the terms &quot;male&quot; and &quot;female&quot; are distract...</title><summary type='text'>I think the terms &quot;male&quot; and &quot;female&quot; are distracting abstractions -- when people become misogynist or misandriast they seem to focus on the crimes of some other group and forget the positve aspects so if they think of men they will think of Hitler and forget about Mozart, or if they think of Manson they will forget about Johnny Appleseed.  I think when men get misogynist they will think about </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113233620031841306'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113233620031841306'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html?showComment=1132336200000#c113233620031841306' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113173735984644722' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113173735984644722' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 18, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113233082794940411</id><published>2005-11-18T11:20:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-18T11:20:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Brett, the Nazi link to Luther -- to which you ref...</title><summary type='text'>Brett, the Nazi link to Luther -- to which you refer with the phrase burn down the sinagogues -- oy vey -- I quote from Nazi henchman Martin Bormann, from the book The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, &quot;National Socialism and Christianity are irreconcilable&quot; (240).&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Already as early as 1933 -- the Hitler government had drawn up a plan to exterminate the Lutheran church -- among the </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113233082794940411'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113233082794940411'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html?showComment=1132330800000#c113233082794940411' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113173735984644722' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113173735984644722' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 18, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113229580575906377</id><published>2005-11-18T01:36:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-18T01:36:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I think of the society/nature relation this way:Th...</title><summary type='text'>I think of the society/nature relation this way:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;There&#39;s an impulse, a charge. It&#39;s utterly meaningless, a kind of brute physicality we can&#39;t even conceive of without the mediation of some kind of prelinguistic or linguistic frame of interpretation. Even to call it &quot;physicality&quot; is well beyond its scale.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Then there&#39;s the environment--for us, a social one, everything non-social </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113229580575906377'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113229580575906377'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html?showComment=1132295760000#c113229580575906377' title=''/><author><name>andy gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00797822725132844348</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113173735984644722' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113173735984644722' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1436621432"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 18, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113229036767161011</id><published>2005-11-18T00:06:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-18T00:06:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Kirby wrote:And I don&#39;t think you would mean that ...</title><summary type='text'>Kirby wrote:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;I&gt;And I don&#39;t think you would mean that any women anywhere should bow to a man.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I think we should all bow to the ones we love.  Mutual bowing.  A sign of humility and respect.  And to paraphase Whitman, the leaders should bow to those they serve (ie. the common people).&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Brett wrote:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;I&gt;Man naturally more often science-minded. Therefore Society defines </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113229036767161011'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113229036767161011'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html?showComment=1132290360000#c113229036767161011' title=''/><author><name>speterme</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15418310802340579561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113173735984644722' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113173735984644722' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-326822307"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 18, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113228676413818493</id><published>2005-11-17T23:06:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-17T23:06:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I supposed I did use &#39;innate&#39; incorrectly, or at l...</title><summary type='text'>I supposed I did use &#39;innate&#39; incorrectly, or at least confusingly.  I meant something along the lines of &#39;in the nature of something though not readily apparent,&#39; (and &#39;in the nature&#39; doesn&#39;t mean &#39;born with&#39; but, rather, the quality of the thing at the present time) as any outword, verbal form of hatred toward women is strictly forbidden, but it is the underlying mindset of a lot of these kids.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113228676413818493'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113228676413818493'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html?showComment=1132286760000#c113228676413818493' title=''/><author><name>Brett</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09958984151677722851</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113173735984644722' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113173735984644722' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1222757787"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 17, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113227010269049102</id><published>2005-11-17T18:28:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-17T18:28:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Dear Ron:  You open up the box to anonymous blogge...</title><summary type='text'>Dear Ron:  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You open up the box to anonymous bloggers and invite women, and this is what you get.  Happy birthday.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113227010269049102'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113227010269049102'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html?showComment=1132270080000#c113227010269049102' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113173735984644722' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113173735984644722' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 17, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113226569717607006</id><published>2005-11-17T17:14:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-17T17:14:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Grammar bad for women.John Lennon poses as Jesus i...</title><summary type='text'>Grammar bad for women.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;John Lennon poses as Jesus in bed, like the wolf posed as grandma.  John Lennon said he was about peace.  But he swallowed all the Little Reds of his time.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Grammar is like grandma.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It swallows women in the name of itself.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Women should not have any truck with men.  Even when men pretend to be grandma, or especially when they pretend to be </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113226569717607006'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113226569717607006'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html?showComment=1132265640000#c113226569717607006' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113173735984644722' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113173735984644722' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 17, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113225716688504532</id><published>2005-11-17T14:52:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-17T14:52:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Also, anonymous,It&#39;s Valerie, not Flannery, right?...</title><summary type='text'>Also, anonymous,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It&#39;s &lt;I&gt;Valerie&lt;/I&gt;, not Flannery, right? And an incomplete first sentence, right?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113225716688504532'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113173735984644722/comments/default/113225716688504532'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html?showComment=1132257120000#c113225716688504532' title=''/><author><name>andy gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00797822725132844348</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/shann-palmer-it-was-shann-palmers.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113173735984644722' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113173735984644722' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1436621432"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 17, 2005"/></entry></feed>