<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post113706776355995256..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>18</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113798472403985027</id><published>2006-01-22T21:52:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-22T21:52:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>just, belatedly thanking you for the link--I was o...</title><summary type='text'>just, belatedly thanking you for the link--I was out of town :)</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113798472403985027'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113798472403985027'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html?showComment=1137984720000#c113798472403985027' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113706776355995256' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113706776355995256' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1915928048"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 22, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113772180341596722</id><published>2006-01-19T20:50:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-19T20:50:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I doubt I completely miscontrued your comments, Cu...</title><summary type='text'>I doubt I &lt;I&gt;completely&lt;/I&gt; miscontrued your comments, Curtis, but I agree with what you&#39;re saying now, pretty much.  Sure, effective line-breaks are good, ineffective ones bad.  I think line-breaks originally had a historically new (important) quality, too.  Those of Williams, H.D. and Cummings, all following Pound, I believe, had a second such quality.  We&#39;ve had later line-breaking that has </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113772180341596722'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113772180341596722'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html?showComment=1137721800000#c113772180341596722' title=''/><author><name>Bob</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06510873404741557897</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113706776355995256' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113706776355995256' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1366556700"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 19, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113759427732662025</id><published>2006-01-18T09:24:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-18T09:24:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Bob:You completely misconstrue my comments about l...</title><summary type='text'>Bob:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You completely misconstrue my comments about line-break.  &quot;Line-breaks&quot; as introduced by Williams and H.D. and Cummings in the 1920&#39;s and &#39;30&#39;s, have an historically new quality (little machines made of words), in which the verticality, the &quot;jagged&quot; tensions between words pulling and pushing against the natural flow of the eye and ear, demonstrate new techniques for defining meaning</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113759427732662025'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113759427732662025'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html?showComment=1137594240000#c113759427732662025' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113706776355995256' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113706776355995256' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 18, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113741652354145376</id><published>2006-01-16T08:02:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-16T08:02:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>If Curtis is saying liine-breaks, by themselves, a...</title><summary type='text'>If Curtis is saying liine-breaks, by themselves, aren&#39;t as important as the words in a poem, he&#39;s no doubt right&lt;BR/&gt;most of the time.  But they can certainly be crucial, as he doesn&#39;t seem able to admit.  And they can be taken much further than the standard line breaks being discussed here, as in E. E. Cummings&#39;s.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Now, a question about Tom Beckett&#39;s poem: what in the world is &quot;political</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113741652354145376'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113741652354145376'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html?showComment=1137416520000#c113741652354145376' title=''/><author><name>Bob</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06510873404741557897</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113706776355995256' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113706776355995256' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1366556700"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 16, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113727633924758861</id><published>2006-01-14T17:05:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-14T17:05:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Carl Solomon here again, folks.Al passes on kitty ...</title><summary type='text'>Carl Solomon here again, folks.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Al passes on kitty litter from heaven to all you cats. Good wishes baby, you know the deal.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And he says, Sign the petition, man. Get largesse. Get him his degree, he says. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Al baby, I says. : Why baby, why? &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;---‘Cause Behrle knows the deal. He’s like Hippasus man. He’s catnip to the sillimanblog. He’s like OJ’s Ford Bronco </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113727633924758861'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113727633924758861'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html?showComment=1137276300000#c113727633924758861' title=''/><author><name>I&#39;m With You in Rockland</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09028227599982163617</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113706776355995256' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113706776355995256' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-842755581"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 14, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113711778349718990</id><published>2006-01-12T21:03:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-12T21:03:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>When are you gonna stop blabbing about nonsense an...</title><summary type='text'>When are you gonna stop blabbing about nonsense and sign the petition at&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;graduateronsilliman.blogspot.com&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Do it.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;xxxjimmy</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113711778349718990'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113711778349718990'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html?showComment=1137117780000#c113711778349718990' title=''/><author><name>Behrle, Prince of Trolls</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/02376200318127362630</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113706776355995256' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113706776355995256' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1368997688"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 12, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113710687795507568</id><published>2006-01-12T18:01:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-12T18:01:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis,Yes. At the end of your post, you pinpoint ...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Yes. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;At the end of your post, you pinpoint the real issue--the &lt;I&gt;interaction&lt;/I&gt; of syntax etc. with poetic form. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Except (and I&#39;ve harped on this before) I can&#39;t accept that the line equals the breath in a simple way, even in Creeley. Not that there&#39;s no relation, but that the experience of line breaks is not reducible either to bodily activity or to space. </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113710687795507568'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113710687795507568'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html?showComment=1137106860000#c113710687795507568' title=''/><author><name>andy gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00797822725132844348</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113706776355995256' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113706776355995256' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1436621432"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 12, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113710587864041795</id><published>2006-01-12T17:44:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-12T17:44:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Andy,Of course, all that is true and I would be th...</title><summary type='text'>Andy,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Of course, all that is true and I would be the first to admit it--indeed, in Eigner&#39;s work, which I regard as preeminent among the post-Moderns, that is crucial to any understanding of the process--is, in fact, THE process.  What happens when you string the broken lines into flat prose and read it without the spacial tensions?  Shouldn&#39;t the progression of words have an integrity </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113710587864041795'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113710587864041795'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html?showComment=1137105840000#c113710587864041795' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113706776355995256' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113706776355995256' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 12, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113710182965881282</id><published>2006-01-12T16:37:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-12T16:37:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Interesting post, Ron. Your scientific bent comes ...</title><summary type='text'>Interesting post, Ron. Your scientific bent comes out here, followed by &quot;the blackboard of my soul&quot; (to the tune of &quot;Windmills of Your Mind?&quot;).&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Curtis, it seems like you may be trying too hard to separate line structure from content--you&#39;re obviously right about the need for substance beyond mere structure, but form has a content of its own, and a reading of Williams&#39; poem without the </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113710182965881282'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113710182965881282'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html?showComment=1137101820000#c113710182965881282' title=''/><author><name>andy gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00797822725132844348</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113706776355995256' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113706776355995256' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1436621432"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 12, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113709207006888379</id><published>2006-01-12T13:54:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-12T13:54:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Jay Hambridge, the 19th C. painter?</title><summary type='text'>Jay Hambridge, the 19th C. painter?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113709207006888379'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113709207006888379'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html?showComment=1137092040000#c113709207006888379' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113706776355995256' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113706776355995256' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 12, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113708929942295122</id><published>2006-01-12T13:08:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-12T13:08:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The reduction of quantity from seven to five sylla...</title><summary type='text'>&lt;I&gt; The reduction of quantity from seven to five syllables is felt, perceptible to the reader or listener, heard as a form of emphasis, literally as force. For exactly this reason, many of Charles Olson’s much larger poems start out with long lines that progressively grow shorter as the poem chugs along.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Which is what makes the proposal of &lt;I&gt;Tjanting&lt;/I&gt; so daunting, and the </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113708929942295122'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113708929942295122'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html?showComment=1137089280000#c113708929942295122' title=''/><author><name>mc enslin</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17544448765734150159</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113706776355995256' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113706776355995256' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1640180948"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 12, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113708821316304708</id><published>2006-01-12T12:50:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-12T12:50:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>HELLO COMMENT FIELD!Please sign the petition athtt...</title><summary type='text'>HELLO COMMENT FIELD!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Please sign the petition at&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;http://graduateronsilliman.blogspot.com/&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;to graduate Ron from the University of California Berkeley.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;xxxjimmy</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113708821316304708'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113708821316304708'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html?showComment=1137088200000#c113708821316304708' title=''/><author><name>Behrle, Prince of Trolls</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/02376200318127362630</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113706776355995256' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113706776355995256' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1368997688"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 12, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113708665686547612</id><published>2006-01-12T12:24:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-12T12:24:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron,Just curious--are you familiar with the work o...</title><summary type='text'>Ron,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Just curious--are you familiar with the work of Jay Hambidge?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Robin</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113708665686547612'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113708665686547612'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html?showComment=1137086640000#c113708665686547612' title=''/><author><name>nolapoet</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13093723433052849060</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113706776355995256' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113706776355995256' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1237903846"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 12, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113708663294639109</id><published>2006-01-12T12:23:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-12T12:23:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;Offensive&quot; seems kind of an odd take--?Mightn&#39;t y...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;Offensive&quot; seems kind of an odd take--?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Mightn&#39;t you be meaning to say Beckett&#39;s poem is organized towards a specific emphasis, creating a rhetorical syntax that leads to a forceful conclusion?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;That&#39;s one way of looking at it.  My point is that there&#39;s not much inevitability about line-breaking.  There are probably 15 or so ways of reasonably setting Beckett&#39;s poem, but the </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113708663294639109'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113708663294639109'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html?showComment=1137086580000#c113708663294639109' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113706776355995256' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113706776355995256' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 12, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113708399622597272</id><published>2006-01-12T11:39:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-12T11:39:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>so much depends upona red wheel barrowglazed with ...</title><summary type='text'>so &lt;BR/&gt;much &lt;BR/&gt;depends upon&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;a &lt;BR/&gt;red &lt;BR/&gt;wheel barrow&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;glazed &lt;BR/&gt;with &lt;BR/&gt;rain water&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;beside &lt;BR/&gt;the &lt;BR/&gt;white chickens.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;sure, it says the same thing, but it says it in such a different way.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;curtis you&#39;re right; there is no definite line break.  there is, though, a clear distinction between the right line break and the wrong one; for </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113708399622597272'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113708399622597272'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html?showComment=1137083940000#c113708399622597272' title=''/><author><name>katy</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07329161994664435636</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113706776355995256' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113706776355995256' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1107347448"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 12, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113708152568963964</id><published>2006-01-12T10:58:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-12T10:58:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>It should be pointed out that in Romance languages...</title><summary type='text'>It should be pointed out that in Romance languages, a metrical line is more likely to be discussed in terms of its number of syllables (e.g. d&amp;eacute;casyllabe). There really are good formal reasons in English for breaking down the iambic pentameter line, not just some mad love for factoring. Not that I would myself deny having a mad love for factoring.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;For a more formal account of short</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113708152568963964'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113708152568963964'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html?showComment=1137081480000#c113708152568963964' title=''/><author><name>Natalia</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07898457401179147102</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113706776355995256' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113706776355995256' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-864892245"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 12, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113708094261255760</id><published>2006-01-12T10:49:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-12T10:49:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ye olde linebreaks again.  The master of the effec...</title><summary type='text'>Ye olde linebreaks again.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The master of the effective, telling line-break was Creeley in his collection Words.  Composed of narrow lines usually broken into two, three or four line stanzas, using the syllabic conjunctions and line-breaks to create a contrapuntal dance, as much physical event as rational statement.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But there is no &quot;correct&quot; line-break.  Tom Beckett&#39;s poem--a </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113708094261255760'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113708094261255760'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html?showComment=1137080940000#c113708094261255760' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113706776355995256' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113706776355995256' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 12, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113707174158557893</id><published>2006-01-12T08:15:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-12T08:15:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>My students really freak out when I talk actual nu...</title><summary type='text'>My students really freak out when I talk actual numbers and colors in &quot;Gawain &amp; the Green Knight.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;All of the different layers of 5, for example, 51 for another.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113707174158557893'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113706776355995256/comments/default/113707174158557893'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html?showComment=1137071700000#c113707174158557893' title=''/><author><name>Justin Evans</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12161484350184865575</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/function-of-number-in-poetry-seems.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113706776355995256' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113706776355995256' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1408752233"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 12, 2006"/></entry></feed>