<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post114138182419545706..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>25</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114192810713237070</id><published>2006-03-09T13:15:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-09T13:15:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>It&#39;s ridiculously late to add to this strand, but ...</title><summary type='text'>It&#39;s ridiculously late to add to this strand, but having just read the Lewis text I must say I can&#39;t see why anyone would want to niggle at it--it&#39;s humane, &#39;read him!&#39; writing.  What&#39;s to dislike, really?  And I will go back to a reread of what is in the house--guess I SHOULD splash out for the big one but sometimes I don&#39;t know about The Collected ... another conversation ...</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114192810713237070'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114192810713237070'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html?showComment=1141928100000#c114192810713237070' title=''/><author><name>JOT</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17666603281422565075</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114138182419545706' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114138182419545706' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1558481342"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 09, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114161026554013609</id><published>2006-03-05T20:57:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-05T20:57:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>on whim i tried a berrigan exercise.     took a fr...</title><summary type='text'>on whim i tried a berrigan exercise.     took a frost poem and inserted my own lines between his.   and then erased his    and thought to myself...not bad.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114161026554013609'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114161026554013609'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html?showComment=1141610220000#c114161026554013609' title=''/><author><name>john hanson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09681354460957743187</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114138182419545706' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114138182419545706' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1428247785"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 05, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114159226680596960</id><published>2006-03-05T15:57:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-05T15:57:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>white elephants vs. termites;   hosts vs. parasite...</title><summary type='text'>white elephants vs. termites;   hosts vs. parasites;   morphine  vs. red wine  (do we make a distinction of quality here?);  sense vs.   verse nonesense;   eliot  vs. hart crane;   oulipo  vs.  flarf;    blog   vs.   the classroom;    the computer  vs.  perapetetic observation;    a venue for constant dialectic   vs. the old/new poetic tensions.    it&#39;s enough to make a neophyte crawl into bed </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114159226680596960'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114159226680596960'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html?showComment=1141592220000#c114159226680596960' title=''/><author><name>john hanson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09681354460957743187</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114138182419545706' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114138182419545706' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1428247785"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 05, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114158971323218870</id><published>2006-03-05T15:15:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-05T15:15:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Correct me if I&#39;m wrong.Isn&#39;t Charlie Smith, the p...</title><summary type='text'>Correct me if I&#39;m wrong.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Isn&#39;t Charlie Smith, the poet and novelist, a heroin addict (or was once a serious addict)?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114158971323218870'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114158971323218870'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html?showComment=1141589700000#c114158971323218870' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114138182419545706' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114138182419545706' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 05, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114158850100996311</id><published>2006-03-05T14:55:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-05T14:55:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The only way to die of a morphine addiction is to ...</title><summary type='text'>The only way to die of a morphine addiction is to overdose, or to get a &quot;hot shot&quot; cut with some poison. When I worked in the Tenderloin in the 1970s, it was very clear that junkies could, if they were careful, live to be very old men. Red wine street drinkers, on the other hand, were falling apart by the time they were in their late 30s.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114158850100996311'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114158850100996311'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html?showComment=1141588500000#c114158850100996311' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114138182419545706' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114138182419545706' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 05, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114158503598824756</id><published>2006-03-05T13:57:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-05T13:57:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Termites are highly allergic to morphine.A dose of...</title><summary type='text'>Termites are highly allergic to morphine.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;A dose of white-elephant tusk powder, if applied early enough, can sometimes save an addicted termite, but 3-5 of their legs are usually permanently dislocated, nevertheless.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;- Dr. Cowabunga</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114158503598824756'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114158503598824756'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html?showComment=1141585020000#c114158503598824756' title=''/><author><name>Henry Gould</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04783460308217456577</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114138182419545706' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114138182419545706' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1417109118"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 05, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114158369111398266</id><published>2006-03-05T13:34:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-05T13:34:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Just curious: how do you die of morphine addiction...</title><summary type='text'>Just curious: how do you die of morphine addiction? Most addicts with a steady income can live long, productive lives while addicted. A severely addicted person who is also old and/or sick could conceivably die during a immediate cold turky withdrawal, but otherwise, dying of morphine addiction sounds suspect.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114158369111398266'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114158369111398266'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html?showComment=1141583640000#c114158369111398266' title=''/><author><name>bourgeoizine</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/02261187906009217684</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114138182419545706' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114138182419545706' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-981207680"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 05, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114145918135266042</id><published>2006-03-04T02:59:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-04T02:59:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I am simply here to give memoriamto my association...</title><summary type='text'>I am simply here to give memoriam&lt;BR/&gt;to my association with &#39;termite&#39;&lt;BR/&gt;which is with the cheated afrikaaner poet/entomologist lawyer&lt;BR/&gt;journalist Eugene Marais who posited the termite mound as a group mind long before any one else had done in a western scientific context but whose ideas were stolen. he was the first populariser of poetry in Afrikaans,&lt;BR/&gt;though I can&#39;t find any </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114145918135266042'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114145918135266042'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html?showComment=1141459140000#c114145918135266042' title=''/><author><name>phaneronoemikon</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08430230355065457354</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114138182419545706' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114138182419545706' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1411460047"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 04, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114145528176341373</id><published>2006-03-04T01:54:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-04T01:54:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>But Joel! I like Thalia Field!xxxjimmy</title><summary type='text'>But Joel! I like Thalia Field!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;xxxjimmy</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114145528176341373'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114145528176341373'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html?showComment=1141455240000#c114145528176341373' title=''/><author><name>Behrle, Prince of Trolls</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/02376200318127362630</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114138182419545706' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114138182419545706' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1368997688"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 04, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114145112809771121</id><published>2006-03-04T00:45:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-04T00:45:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by the author.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114145112809771121'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114145112809771121'/><author><name>Kevin Doran</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08640770705948611352</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114138182419545706' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114138182419545706' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-405491431"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 04, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114144352816005735</id><published>2006-03-03T22:38:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-03T22:38:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The Farber disinction is fine, but it&#39;s just a cod...</title><summary type='text'>The Farber disinction is fine, but it&#39;s just a codification of the general avant-garde attack on the Academy, Literature, the Monument...so ultimately I&#39;d say anachronism is beside the point: it&#39;s a type of attack on instutionally supported high culture generally available since the historical avant-garde.  Good to see class invoked in the review (though it might have been more nuanced).  But </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114144352816005735'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114144352816005735'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html?showComment=1141443480000#c114144352816005735' title=''/><author><name>Nick</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03366644632952596438</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114138182419545706' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114138182419545706' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-29767501"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 03, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114142898263784622</id><published>2006-03-03T18:36:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-03T18:36:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I finished it, Eric.I am pretty funny, though.</title><summary type='text'>I finished it, Eric.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I am pretty funny, though.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114142898263784622'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114142898263784622'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html?showComment=1141428960000#c114142898263784622' title=''/><author><name>Logan Ryan Smith</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/18315356369259909084</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114138182419545706' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114138182419545706' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-277623651"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 03, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114142875622037831</id><published>2006-03-03T18:32:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-03T18:32:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>John Palatella&#39;s review in The Nation last month i...</title><summary type='text'>John Palatella&#39;s review in The Nation last month is a very thorough review of the Collected, and a strong one with more length and thought than any other review as of yet. I think he talks about more than three ideas of TB&#39;s, by the way. You might have to read Easter Monday to figure that out, though.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114142875622037831'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114142875622037831'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html?showComment=1141428720000#c114142875622037831' title=''/><author><name>tothejailer</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04374523360841512594</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114138182419545706' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114138182419545706' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-362411757"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 03, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114142401890629757</id><published>2006-03-03T17:13:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-03T17:13:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ange, White Elephant vs. Termite Art isn&#39;t all tha...</title><summary type='text'>Ange, White Elephant vs. Termite Art isn&#39;t all that obscure, at least among film scholars &amp; critics. It also makes sense chronologically, since the Farber essay was published in 1962, only two years before the &quot;C&quot; Press edition of the Sonnets. What I do think is questionable is the White Elephant/Termite Art distinction being anachronistically applied to writers like Thalia Field.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114142401890629757'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114142401890629757'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html?showComment=1141423980000#c114142401890629757' title=''/><author><name>Joseph</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12350813388072485198</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114138182419545706' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114138182419545706' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-953809779"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 03, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114142391651274479</id><published>2006-03-03T17:11:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-03T17:11:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>C&#39;mon!  Did anyone really make it to the end of th...</title><summary type='text'>C&#39;mon!  Did anyone really make it to the end of the review?  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You guys are so funny!</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114142391651274479'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114142391651274479'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html?showComment=1141423860000#c114142391651274479' title=''/><author><name>Gelsinger</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/10399085537060016712</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114138182419545706' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114138182419545706' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-235357268"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 03, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114141930924495515</id><published>2006-03-03T15:55:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-03T15:55:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>A predominant condition of Berrigan&#39;s work and pre...</title><summary type='text'>A predominant condition of Berrigan&#39;s work and presence was his pragmatic lifestyle.  Ted was sloppy, the way Olson was.  Both men used what they could--Berrigan&#39;s &quot;nerve&quot;, Olson&#39;s &quot;push&quot;--and left the crumbling ruins and messes behind them.  Rather like living in a house for a year, then just packing a suitcase with underwear and socks and hightailing it for new horizons.  Ted was a careful </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114141930924495515'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114141930924495515'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html?showComment=1141419300000#c114141930924495515' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114138182419545706' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114138182419545706' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 03, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114141739333600614</id><published>2006-03-03T15:23:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-03T15:23:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>A few observations:(a) Note the opening interest i...</title><summary type='text'>A few observations:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;(a) Note the opening interest in the book&#39;s &quot;friendly-looking appearance,&quot; and in the odd notion that Blackburn&#39;s book design should somehow resemble Blackburn&#39;s poetry.  Reminds me of Walter Benn Michaels&#39; critique of Susan Howe: &quot;the material&quot; is either meaningful or its not, and if it&#39;s not meaningful, it has no bearing on the literature (except by increasing its </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114141739333600614'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114141739333600614'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html?showComment=1141417380000#c114141739333600614' title=''/><author><name>Luther Blissett</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13609172891362697253</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114138182419545706' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114138182419545706' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-699303289"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 03, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114141328769019475</id><published>2006-03-03T14:14:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-03T14:14:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>jordan,youreallyareabeanspasmguy . . .</title><summary type='text'>jordan,&lt;BR/&gt;youreallyareabeanspasmguy . . .</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114141328769019475'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114141328769019475'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html?showComment=1141413240000#c114141328769019475' title=''/><author><name>Bill Luoma</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/18265429836386861302</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114138182419545706' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114138182419545706' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-88009813"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 03, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114140798761133334</id><published>2006-03-03T12:46:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-03T12:46:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>It&#39;s nice to know that even termite poets have fel...</title><summary type='text'>It&#39;s nice to know that even termite poets have fellow-poet publicists and canonizers &amp; pecking-order sorters, so that they too can join the white elephants in the zoo.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114140798761133334'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114140798761133334'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html?showComment=1141407960000#c114140798761133334' title=''/><author><name>Henry Gould</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04783460308217456577</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114138182419545706' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114138182419545706' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1417109118"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 03, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114140684778630828</id><published>2006-03-03T12:27:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-03T12:27:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>This won&#39;t surprise anyone, but I take Joel&#39;s poin...</title><summary type='text'>This won&#39;t surprise anyone, but I take Joel&#39;s point re white elephant vs termite (and am now going to track down some Manny Farber), and would say that no &quot;nyah nyah&quot; comes through here, but rather it sounds to me like Joel&#39;s almost bemused that Berrigan&#39;s approach worked out as spectacularly as it did.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;A question, though: why couldn&#39;t &quot;The Sonnets&quot; be considered a white elephant work? </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114140684778630828'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114140684778630828'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html?showComment=1141406820000#c114140684778630828' title=''/><author><name>Jordan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/10451174274596699645</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114138182419545706' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114138182419545706' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1484709122"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 03, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114140637622648875</id><published>2006-03-03T12:19:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-03T12:19:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I&#39;m afraid spicergirl is absolutely right. I cring...</title><summary type='text'>I&#39;m afraid spicergirl is absolutely right. I cringed when I read this review in the PPN. Bill Corbett&#39;s review in the Boston Phoenix was much more deeply felt and convincing precisely because he didn&#39;t need to trot out some obscure distinction like &quot;White Elephant vs. Termite&quot; art. Draw a line in the sand like that, and I *will* be on the other side.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114140637622648875'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114140637622648875'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html?showComment=1141406340000#c114140637622648875' title=''/><author><name>Ange M</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17566155732896197946</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114138182419545706' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114138182419545706' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-426914153"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 03, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114140602553454194</id><published>2006-03-03T12:13:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-03T12:13:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I don&#39;t know how that happened. It was there and t...</title><summary type='text'>I don&#39;t know how that happened. It was there and then it wasn&#39;t. I sent Blogger a note (haven&#39;t heard back), but went to a meeting &amp; when I got back I decided to republish today&#39;s note. All I did was add one blank space after the final period of the final paragraph, but it worked.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114140602553454194'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114140602553454194'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html?showComment=1141405980000#c114140602553454194' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114138182419545706' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114138182419545706' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 03, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114140547265868157</id><published>2006-03-03T12:04:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-03T12:04:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>your blog has been blank--just white, an empty fie...</title><summary type='text'>your blog has been blank--just white, an empty field!--all morning for me until now, noonish.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114140547265868157'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114140547265868157'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html?showComment=1141405440000#c114140547265868157' title=''/><author><name>shanna</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17706867356078179503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114138182419545706' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114138182419545706' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-927990281"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 03, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114139462565308374</id><published>2006-03-03T09:03:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-03T09:03:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I think you&#39;re misreading that. Joel actually show...</title><summary type='text'>I think you&#39;re misreading that. Joel actually shows Berrigan taking a serious interest in the composition of a Wilbur poem -- something virtually no other post-avant save for Olson ever has done. And the NY Times stuff, he&#39;s exactly right. And Perloff&#39;s criticism has some tremendous gaps -- I&#39;d love to see her write a book on contemporary women writers, for example.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114139462565308374'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114139462565308374'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html?showComment=1141394580000#c114139462565308374' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114138182419545706' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114138182419545706' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 03, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114138508314363577</id><published>2006-03-03T06:24:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-03-03T06:24:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The may be great--is, in fact, great, but this rev...</title><summary type='text'>The may be great--is, in fact, great, but this review is the worst sort of political posturing!  Screw publishers, screw Marjorie Perloff, screw Richard Wilbur,.  (I regularly leave off the final couplet of Shakespeare&#39;s sonnets when I teach them--so what.)  It&#39;s all about--the review that is--cumuppance.  My guy made it bigger than your guy.  Nah-nah-hah.  I can&#39;t believe I&#39;m so pissed by a </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114138508314363577'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114138182419545706/comments/default/114138508314363577'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html?showComment=1141385040000#c114138508314363577' title=''/><author><name>spicergirl</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08352927433529226485</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/03/one-of-telling-differences-between.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114138182419545706' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114138182419545706' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-256451819"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 03, 2006"/></entry></feed>