<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post114717511731874934..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>23</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114737707284156542</id><published>2006-05-11T15:51:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-05-11T15:51:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>ian--i didn&#39;t mean &quot;not to read&quot; but merely to ref...</title><summary type='text'>ian--&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;i didn&#39;t mean &quot;not to read&quot; but merely to refuse, rebel against.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;apologies for not making it clear.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114737707284156542'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114737707284156542'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html?showComment=1147377060000#c114737707284156542' title=''/><author><name>zach rampold</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05760349566128424884</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114717511731874934' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114717511731874934' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1968973472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 11, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114734877263563031</id><published>2006-05-11T07:59:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-05-11T07:59:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Hell, no.  That is only the cover story.</title><summary type='text'>Hell, no.  That is only the cover story.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114734877263563031'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114734877263563031'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html?showComment=1147348740000#c114734877263563031' title=''/><author><name>joe green</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12257285616529795340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114717511731874934' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114717511731874934' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1849826838"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 11, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114732326850774262</id><published>2006-05-11T00:54:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-05-11T00:54:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>You’re just upset because Lilac has linked you to ...</title><summary type='text'>You’re just upset because Lilac has linked you to the extraterrestrial lizards that control Kent Johnson through the auspices of the Freemasons.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114732326850774262'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114732326850774262'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html?showComment=1147323240000#c114732326850774262' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114717511731874934' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114717511731874934' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 11, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114731914876359052</id><published>2006-05-10T23:45:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-05-10T23:45:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Yes, Ginsberg&#39;s Eliot influence is little noted.  ...</title><summary type='text'>Yes, Ginsberg&#39;s Eliot influence is little noted.  Ginsberg loved cats and would have gotten along with Jessie Weston had they ever met and was rather nostalgic for the way things were before the English revolution and would roundly curse Cromwell when bored.  When I met him in Milwaukee he was carrying a volume of Rupert Brooke and said he loved the lad.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;He was thinking about </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114731914876359052'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114731914876359052'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html?showComment=1147319100000#c114731914876359052' title=''/><author><name>joe green</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12257285616529795340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114717511731874934' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114717511731874934' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1849826838"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 10, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114731699555791908</id><published>2006-05-10T23:09:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-05-10T23:09:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Zach, check out Ginsberg‘s ‘Wichita Vortex Sutra’ ...</title><summary type='text'>Zach, check out Ginsberg‘s ‘Wichita Vortex Sutra’ and other poems of that period for the Pound influence.  The Williams influence dominates his first book: check out ‘The Archetype Poem’ and ‘Marijuana Notation.’ and dig the Eliot ref here:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;OY!  AH!  HU!  OY!  AH!  HU!&lt;BR/&gt;SHALOM! SHANTIH! SALAAM!&lt;BR/&gt;(Jawah and Allah Battle)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;So in other words there’s no excuse to not read stuff</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114731699555791908'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114731699555791908'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html?showComment=1147316940000#c114731699555791908' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114717511731874934' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114717511731874934' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 10, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114729133790503749</id><published>2006-05-10T16:02:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-05-10T16:02:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Let me go get some popcorn...</title><summary type='text'>Let me go get some popcorn...</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114729133790503749'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114729133790503749'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html?showComment=1147291320000#c114729133790503749' title=''/><author><name>GJPW</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13383940105241352465</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114717511731874934' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114717511731874934' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-669631030"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 10, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114724251502609249</id><published>2006-05-10T02:28:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-05-10T02:28:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Welcome Zach to the real world of modern poetry (a...</title><summary type='text'>Welcome Zach to the real world of modern poetry (as you apparently have just stepped out of the Romantic period).  It is peopled by those who mistake their cohorts(the racists/bigots) for decent people and call decent people bigots and racists.  They talk about politics (when no one is looking) as if they actually know what is going on.  They REALLY like to believe they have influence over the </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114724251502609249'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114724251502609249'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html?showComment=1147242480000#c114724251502609249' title=''/><author><name>Lady Jane</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04555982712708881025</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114717511731874934' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114717511731874934' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1542572767"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 10, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114721832357118640</id><published>2006-05-09T19:45:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-05-09T19:45:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;And I wonder what the Norton anthologies of two h...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;And I wonder what the Norton anthologies of two hundred years from now will look like – will poets have all moved back to the margin?&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;that seems to imply that all of the great poets of this generation will be spawned from internet blogging. which is a slightly too hubristic view for my liking. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;The New American poets – from Olson to Ginsberg to Duncan to Whalen to Blackburn </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114721832357118640'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114721832357118640'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html?showComment=1147218300000#c114721832357118640' title=''/><author><name>zach rampold</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05760349566128424884</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114717511731874934' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114717511731874934' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1968973472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 09, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114721462987834640</id><published>2006-05-09T18:43:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-05-09T18:43:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>It&#39;s very difficult reading a poem that breaks the...</title><summary type='text'>It&#39;s very difficult reading a poem that breaks the tyranny of the left margin -- to an audience, I mean.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Lately I&#39;ve tried signaling where the words are with my body.  Lean to the left, upright for center, and then to the right.  Very exhausting.  I tried hiring a mime to do this but every one I have tried is impertinent.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Anybody know of a good mime near St. Paul?  Thanks.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114721462987834640'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114721462987834640'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html?showComment=1147214580000#c114721462987834640' title=''/><author><name>joe green</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12257285616529795340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114717511731874934' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114717511731874934' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1849826838"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 09, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114721033605499543</id><published>2006-05-09T17:32:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-05-09T17:32:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>i did not know that about the pisan cantosbut i th...</title><summary type='text'>i did not know that about the pisan cantos&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;but i think there is something to that&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;does the machine become the form?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;in an age of verbal and printed excess we would do well&lt;BR/&gt;all of us&lt;BR/&gt;to limit our poems&lt;BR/&gt;to moments of desperation&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;read recently oscar wilde&#39;s comment to the effect that the best poets are the most unpoetical of people...it is the lesser </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114721033605499543'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114721033605499543'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html?showComment=1147210320000#c114721033605499543' title=''/><author><name>john hanson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09681354460957743187</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114717511731874934' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114717511731874934' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1428247785"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 09, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114720884334265209</id><published>2006-05-09T17:07:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-05-09T17:07:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>i think meritage press&#39;s wine-bottle logo influenc...</title><summary type='text'>i think meritage press&#39;s wine-bottle logo influenced my typing above. i mean my olivetti. i don&#39;t know what an olivino is, if anything.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114720884334265209'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114720884334265209'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html?showComment=1147208820000#c114720884334265209' title=''/><author><name>shanna</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17706867356078179503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114717511731874934' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114717511731874934' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-927990281"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 09, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114720804194023854</id><published>2006-05-09T16:54:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-05-09T16:54:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>here&#39;s a tip, conrad (or anybody who would like to...</title><summary type='text'>here&#39;s a tip, conrad (or anybody who would like to view conrad&#39;s invisible code). use the &quot;view source&quot; function of your browser, while your&#39;re in this comment thread. (in safari, for instance, &quot;view source&quot; is an option under &quot;view&quot; in the top menu.) a new window will pop up, and if you look for conrad&#39;s first comment, you can see that he&#39;s inserted &amp;.n.b.s.p. code [without the dots i&#39;ve put </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114720804194023854'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114720804194023854'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html?showComment=1147208040000#c114720804194023854' title=''/><author><name>shanna</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17706867356078179503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114717511731874934' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114717511731874934' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-927990281"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 09, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114720764931432389</id><published>2006-05-09T16:47:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-05-09T16:47:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>OH IT&#39;S LIKE MAGIC!  i just tried to put the code ...</title><summary type='text'>OH IT&#39;S LIKE MAGIC!  i just tried to put the code between quotations&lt;BR/&gt;Conrad&lt;BR/&gt;Help build &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://poetryhotel.blogspot.com&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;THE PHILADELPHIA POETRY HOTEL&lt;/A&gt;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114720764931432389'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114720764931432389'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html?showComment=1147207620000#c114720764931432389' title=''/><author><name>poet CAConrad</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17360262447900081942</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114717511731874934' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114717511731874934' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-866494505"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 09, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114720758632307251</id><published>2006-05-09T16:46:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-05-09T16:46:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>oops, the file disappeared on impact.  oh well, he...</title><summary type='text'>oops, the file disappeared on impact.  oh well, hehe!  that&#39;s so funny!  it was the whole &quot;&amp;nbsp;&quot; code in a collection up to 13.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;oh well,&lt;BR/&gt;Conrad&lt;BR/&gt;Help build &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://poetryhotel.blogspot.com&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;THE PHILADELPHIA POETRY HOTEL&lt;/A&gt;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114720758632307251'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114720758632307251'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html?showComment=1147207560000#c114720758632307251' title=''/><author><name>poet CAConrad</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17360262447900081942</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114717511731874934' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114717511731874934' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-866494505"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 09, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114720744732201850</id><published>2006-05-09T16:44:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-05-09T16:44:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>This is something I&#39;ve said before to the annoyanc...</title><summary type='text'>This is something I&#39;ve said before to the annoyance of others, but, I&#39;m saying it again anyway.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Justified Left OR Justified Right makes the opposite side of the poem the gift.  So much can happen on the right side of the lines falling catching falling catching DROPPING off catching again.  One side sheer drop the other brutal leap, but the beauty in that.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And, is this perhaps a </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114720744732201850'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114720744732201850'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html?showComment=1147207440000#c114720744732201850' title=''/><author><name>poet CAConrad</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17360262447900081942</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114717511731874934' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114717511731874934' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-866494505"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 09, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114720438002182192</id><published>2006-05-09T15:53:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-05-09T15:53:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>the pre /pre tags work pretty well, if you&#39;re past...</title><summary type='text'>the pre /pre tags work pretty well, if you&#39;re pasting preformatted text. use a monospace font like courier for best results. html &amp; ascii codes for space are handy to know. as is knowing how to code blockquotes &amp; relative margins.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;or you could just post a cropped screen shot as an image. (erica kaufman does this on her blog, for instance, as do many online journals.)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;i use a </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114720438002182192'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114720438002182192'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html?showComment=1147204380000#c114720438002182192' title=''/><author><name>shanna</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17706867356078179503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114717511731874934' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114717511731874934' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-927990281"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 09, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114719854481876113</id><published>2006-05-09T14:15:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-05-09T14:15:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>In the Pacific Northwest there were all these old ...</title><summary type='text'>In the Pacific Northwest there were all these old hand-set presses available for the taking in the 70s.  A lot of literary presses were hand-setting type at that point still, but the commercial presses had long ceased to use them due to the labor-intensive aspect.  We used to have one of these in the basement of the CAB building at Evergreen State that someone had rescued from some old printer, </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114719854481876113'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114719854481876113'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html?showComment=1147198500000#c114719854481876113' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114717511731874934' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114717511731874934' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 09, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114719582466374993</id><published>2006-05-09T13:30:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-05-09T13:30:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Um, I forgot to escape my code for a non-breaking ...</title><summary type='text'>Um, I forgot to escape my code for a non-breaking space. So when you see the gap in “the old   to space,” read “&amp; nbsp;“ (without the space between the &amp; and the rest).</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114719582466374993'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114719582466374993'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html?showComment=1147195800000#c114719582466374993' title=''/><author><name>jpc</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03810955298378231921</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114717511731874934' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114717511731874934' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-171107965"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 09, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114719571940537951</id><published>2006-05-09T13:28:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-05-09T13:28:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Yeah, I’m trying to learn CSS so I can put up stuf...</title><summary type='text'>Yeah, I’m trying to learn CSS so I can put up stuff like that. It’s hard to get something online as simple as one of WCW’s variable foot poems in those three-line strophes.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In the meantime, you can use things like en and em dashes colored white (or whatever) or the old &amp;nbsp; to space stuff out.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But then what about curved lines, or overlapping lines? Those are things a computer </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114719571940537951'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114719571940537951'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html?showComment=1147195680000#c114719571940537951' title=''/><author><name>jpc</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03810955298378231921</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114717511731874934' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114717511731874934' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-171107965"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 09, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114719313390130357</id><published>2006-05-09T12:45:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-05-09T12:45:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>it&#39;s easy enough to publish all kinds of textual v...</title><summary type='text'>it&#39;s easy enough to publish all kinds of textual variations online if the web-publisher uses pdf&#39;s. that takes no knowledge of html whatsoever and also makes printing out what you&#39;ve found online a more attractive option.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114719313390130357'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114719313390130357'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html?showComment=1147193100000#c114719313390130357' title=''/><author><name>Logan Ryan Smith</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/18315356369259909084</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114717511731874934' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114717511731874934' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-277623651"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 09, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114719305954125174</id><published>2006-05-09T12:44:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-05-09T12:44:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron, thanks for these thoughts.  I&#39;m with Curtis--...</title><summary type='text'>Ron, thanks for these thoughts.  I&#39;m with Curtis-- quality is a fixed form.  But I&#39;m not completely sold on the Internet as a root cause of current trends in margination.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;A somewhat longer look is available &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.rosswhite.com/poetry/archives/2006/05/habits_of_margin.php&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;over at my blog&lt;/A&gt; today.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114719305954125174'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114719305954125174'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html?showComment=1147193040000#c114719305954125174' title=''/><author><name>Ross White</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05953542893992603486</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114717511731874934' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114717511731874934' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1427863215"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 09, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114719227041830060</id><published>2006-05-09T12:31:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-05-09T12:31:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The medium is the message.  Where have I heard thi...</title><summary type='text'>The medium is the message.  Where have I heard this before?  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The invention of the typewriter changed forever the way people write, just as the printing press changed the way people thought about language.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The same way the computer has changed our conception of print.  The seemingly unlimited data memory has cheapened the value of the word, to such a degree that books will </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114719227041830060'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114719227041830060'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html?showComment=1147192260000#c114719227041830060' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114717511731874934' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114717511731874934' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 09, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114718057090718657</id><published>2006-05-09T09:16:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-05-09T09:16:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>It&#39;s so true. Yet, I don&#39;t think it&#39;s happening be...</title><summary type='text'>It&#39;s so true. Yet, I don&#39;t think it&#39;s happening because young poets necessarily like &quot;left-justified&quot;; it&#39;s because most Internet publishers (myself included) don&#39;t know how to get &quot;projective&quot; verse up there. I, for one, still write a lot of projective stuff; but, because (&quot;The Tiny&quot; &amp; a few other places notwithstanding)there seems to be a dearth of good post-avant print journals, I suppose (</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114718057090718657'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114717511731874934/comments/default/114718057090718657'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html?showComment=1147180560000#c114718057090718657' title=''/><author><name>P.F.S. Post</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11909851580874856025</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/05/read-through-of-bay-poetics-stephanie.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114717511731874934' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114717511731874934' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1001663691"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="May 09, 2006"/></entry></feed>