<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post115460782619874526..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115460782619874526/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/of-all-major-language-poets-one-whose.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>11</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115576444284655364</id><published>2006-08-16T17:40:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-08-16T17:40:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Peter Howard (the owner and proprietor of Serendip...</title><summary type='text'>Peter Howard (the owner and proprietor of Serendipity Books) many years ago put out a limited set of &quot;baseball cards&quot; of &quot;Berkeley Poets.&quot;  Just like the popular &quot;Topps&quot; series.  They were in black and white, as I recall, and included people who had played softball with Howard, and several of them were poets.  There&#39;s a famous Michael Palmer poem which goes something like this:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Final </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115460782619874526/comments/default/115576444284655364'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115460782619874526/comments/default/115576444284655364'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/of-all-major-language-poets-one-whose.html?showComment=1155764400000#c115576444284655364' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/of-all-major-language-poets-one-whose.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115460782619874526' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115460782619874526' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 16, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115471196895721277</id><published>2006-08-04T13:19:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-08-04T13:19:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis,it&#39;s an interesting theme with many example...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;it&#39;s an interesting theme with many examples, much material to ponder, and no simple conclusions evidenet (I&#39;d hazard -- at least not evident to me).  Here are just a couple stray things this brings up.  It somewhat recalls the remark (it seemed, as a bon-mot) made by Andre Codrescu, that the &quot;real poem&quot; the poets were creating can be found on the &quot;about the author&quot; note.  This </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115460782619874526/comments/default/115471196895721277'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115460782619874526/comments/default/115471196895721277'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/of-all-major-language-poets-one-whose.html?showComment=1154711940000#c115471196895721277' title=''/><author><name>david raphael israel</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07535589040322113419</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/of-all-major-language-poets-one-whose.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115460782619874526' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115460782619874526' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1441140986"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 04, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115469915658987724</id><published>2006-08-04T09:45:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-08-04T09:45:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>David:My question is perhaps more speculative than...</title><summary type='text'>David:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;My question is perhaps more speculative than it might be.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But the issue is a pertinent one.  Poets with long careers tend to want to edit their history, along with their work.  That often involves suppressing work (and biography) which does not suit their vision of themselves, or the direction their aesthetic (or life-) journey takes them.  Isn&#39;t it possible that by </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115460782619874526/comments/default/115469915658987724'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115460782619874526/comments/default/115469915658987724'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/of-all-major-language-poets-one-whose.html?showComment=1154699100000#c115469915658987724' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/of-all-major-language-poets-one-whose.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115460782619874526' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115460782619874526' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 04, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115467762647332723</id><published>2006-08-04T03:47:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-08-04T03:47:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Grenier! Que viva!Glad I printed out SENTENCES whi...</title><summary type='text'>Grenier! Que viva!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Glad I printed out SENTENCES while it was still online (a painstaking copy &amp; paste task).&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;A DAY AT THE BEACH is one of the funniest books ever written.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115460782619874526/comments/default/115467762647332723'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115460782619874526/comments/default/115467762647332723'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/of-all-major-language-poets-one-whose.html?showComment=1154677620000#c115467762647332723' title=''/><author><name>andy gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00797822725132844348</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/of-all-major-language-poets-one-whose.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115460782619874526' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115460782619874526' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1436621432"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 04, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115467640029008043</id><published>2006-08-04T03:26:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-08-04T03:26:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Bury Art Gallery &amp; Museum (Manchester, UK) have al...</title><summary type='text'>Bury Art Gallery &amp; Museum (Manchester, UK) have also acquired a 64-poems suite plus 6 poems uniquely written during Bob&#39;s performance visit to Bury for the 2005 Text Festival. The poems will be exhibited in the 2008 Text Festival with Bob for the first time &#39;reading&#39; from the actual works rather than projections.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115460782619874526/comments/default/115467640029008043'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115460782619874526/comments/default/115467640029008043'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/of-all-major-language-poets-one-whose.html?showComment=1154676360000#c115467640029008043' title=''/><author><name>Tony Trehy</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/02431283291805161686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/of-all-major-language-poets-one-whose.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115460782619874526' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115460782619874526' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1491420110"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 04, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115465540419031369</id><published>2006-08-03T21:36:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-08-03T21:36:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron,Thanks for mentioning the republication of 100...</title><summary type='text'>Ron,&lt;BR/&gt;Thanks for mentioning the republication of 100S, perhaps one of the most influential texts among poets at Buffalo during my tenure there.  It might be useful, although I don&#39;t have the energy for it, to explain Grenier&#39;s relationship to Eigner for people who are looking at those 4-color poems for the first time.  What really blew my mind in the early days of looking at those poems was </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115460782619874526/comments/default/115465540419031369'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115460782619874526/comments/default/115465540419031369'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/of-all-major-language-poets-one-whose.html?showComment=1154655360000#c115465540419031369' title=''/><author><name>Jessica Smith</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04717874657318262267</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/of-all-major-language-poets-one-whose.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115460782619874526' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115460782619874526' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1614957257"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 03, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115465218041477909</id><published>2006-08-03T20:43:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-08-03T20:43:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis,has Grenier (as your last questions might i...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis,&lt;BR/&gt;has Grenier (as your last questions might imply) fairly disowned his earlier published works?&lt;BR/&gt;I recall Robert Graves&#39; note in his Collected Poems, saying he&#39;s tended to add about 5, and delete 5 or so other poems each time he republishes.  (His sense of the single book, edited through a lifetime, of course recalls Whitman&#39;s model.)  But anyway, presumably folks can (in principle) </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115460782619874526/comments/default/115465218041477909'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115460782619874526/comments/default/115465218041477909'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/of-all-major-language-poets-one-whose.html?showComment=1154652180000#c115465218041477909' title=''/><author><name>david raphael israel</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07535589040322113419</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/of-all-major-language-poets-one-whose.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115460782619874526' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115460782619874526' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1441140986"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 03, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115464062977686182</id><published>2006-08-03T17:30:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-08-03T17:30:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>One of the principle questions in Grenier&#39;s work i...</title><summary type='text'>One of the principle questions in Grenier&#39;s work is the question of self-revision and the definition of oeuvre.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Robert Graves spent his whole life revising and editing his own collected poems, as it expanded forward into time with new productions.  Each new version of the collected excluded more earlier poems, resuscitated previously missing ones, and revised previous versions, or </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115460782619874526/comments/default/115464062977686182'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115460782619874526/comments/default/115464062977686182'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/of-all-major-language-poets-one-whose.html?showComment=1154640600000#c115464062977686182' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/of-all-major-language-poets-one-whose.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115460782619874526' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115460782619874526' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 03, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115463945843851611</id><published>2006-08-03T17:10:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-08-03T17:10:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Damn, had a long post erased.The project reminds m...</title><summary type='text'>Damn, had a long post erased.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The project reminds me of Trivial Pursuit or a box of business cards.  If the cards were random business cards or blank we could pronounce it DaDaist.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Even though words may be recognized befoe full apprehension, at the end of a reading the human mind is shaped for meaning, why I stand by my Logopoetry theories.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;There may be some who can </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115460782619874526/comments/default/115463945843851611'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115460782619874526/comments/default/115463945843851611'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/of-all-major-language-poets-one-whose.html?showComment=1154639400000#c115463945843851611' title=''/><author><name>C. E. Chaffin</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/02639448512282317750</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/of-all-major-language-poets-one-whose.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115460782619874526' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115460782619874526' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1172652492"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 03, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115463912079840282</id><published>2006-08-03T17:05:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-08-03T17:05:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Greetings, Ron, I met you on a listserv some time ...</title><summary type='text'>Greetings, Ron, I met you on a listserv some time ago.  The boxed set reminds me of Trivial Pursuit, or a box of business cards.  You could go DaDaist on the project by printing the same poem on all the business cards but having different professions.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I&#39;m glad you&#39;re saying something about language poets, as I have never taken the proper time to grasp what they have in common.   I </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115460782619874526/comments/default/115463912079840282'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115460782619874526/comments/default/115463912079840282'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/of-all-major-language-poets-one-whose.html?showComment=1154639100000#c115463912079840282' title=''/><author><name>C. E. Chaffin</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/02639448512282317750</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/of-all-major-language-poets-one-whose.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115460782619874526' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115460782619874526' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1172652492"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 03, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115461533659533010</id><published>2006-08-03T10:28:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-08-03T10:28:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I&#39;m visually stirred by this intro to Grenier&#39;s wo...</title><summary type='text'>I&#39;m visually stirred by this intro to Grenier&#39;s work, thanks Ron.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115460782619874526/comments/default/115461533659533010'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115460782619874526/comments/default/115461533659533010'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/of-all-major-language-poets-one-whose.html?showComment=1154615280000#c115461533659533010' title=''/><author><name>Jenny Allan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05866652711389876562</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/of-all-major-language-poets-one-whose.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115460782619874526' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115460782619874526' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1284270514"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 03, 2006"/></entry></feed>