<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post115814593909924484..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>19</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115876606851947948</id><published>2006-09-20T11:27:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-20T11:27:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Well, omby, you’ve certainly taken me to task once...</title><summary type='text'>Well, omby, you’ve certainly taken me to task once again.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I’m never attempting to set down critical criteria in these blogs, but of course one does without meaning to become “more revealed”.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I find the “Augustan” application inapt.  I’m attempting to say, on the spur of the moment, why I think the poem(s) quoted in Ron’s blog do not work, do not aspire to the qualities of </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115876606851947948'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115876606851947948'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html?showComment=1158766020000#c115876606851947948' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115814593909924484' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115814593909924484' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 20, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115848420072372452</id><published>2006-09-17T05:10:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-17T05:10:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>P.S.phaneronoemikonQuarles&#39; Coat of Arms.S.I reall...</title><summary type='text'>&lt;B&gt;P.S.&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;B&gt;phaneronoemikon&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;I&gt;Quarles&#39; Coat of Arms.S.&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I really enjoyed the poem: where in hell is it from?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115848420072372452'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115848420072372452'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html?showComment=1158484200000#c115848420072372452' title=''/><author><name>Zeke Hunkaburning</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05144662896092856507</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115814593909924484' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115814593909924484' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-820081779"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 17, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115848325864906893</id><published>2006-09-17T04:54:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-17T04:54:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Said the fisherman to the fish,Thanks for taking t...</title><summary type='text'>&lt;B&gt;Said the fisherman to the fish,&lt;BR/&gt;Thanks for taking the bait.&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Or is that what the poet said to the reader?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I appreciate CF’s approach to the poem, especially lines I read twice, not liking the first time but reading better into the 2nd. Like,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;CF said:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;B&gt;For instance, “roses around the mailbox,/my hand rendered with the same imprecision/attaching </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115848325864906893'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115848325864906893'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html?showComment=1158483240000#c115848325864906893' title=''/><author><name>Zeke Hunkaburning</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05144662896092856507</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115814593909924484' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115814593909924484' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-820081779"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 17, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115834799307875241</id><published>2006-09-15T15:19:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-15T15:19:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Augustine might be going a bit too far.Opening to ...</title><summary type='text'>Augustine might be going a bit too far.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Opening to a random page (did they have pages? or were they scrolls? no, I think they were pages) in Vergil whereby to tell the future.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Augustine proclaiming that nature is God&#39;s book. Aristotle&#39;s Xian emissary in the Middle Ages, prophet of tautology. &lt;I&gt;A is A. Allahu Akbar.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Augustine (usually pronounced August-in), </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115834799307875241'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115834799307875241'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html?showComment=1158347940000#c115834799307875241' title=''/><author><name>ombilic des</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03318554537326184413</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115814593909924484' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115814593909924484' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1506852026"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 15, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115834501478971771</id><published>2006-09-15T14:30:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-15T14:30:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115834501478971771'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115834501478971771'/><author><name>ombilic des</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03318554537326184413</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115814593909924484' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115814593909924484' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1506852026"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 15, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115834475529372453</id><published>2006-09-15T14:25:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-15T14:25:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115834475529372453'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115834475529372453'/><author><name>ombilic des</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03318554537326184413</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115814593909924484' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115814593909924484' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1506852026"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 15, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115834379953190718</id><published>2006-09-15T14:09:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-15T14:09:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Does such a line as “The ocean doesn’t care if it ...</title><summary type='text'>&lt;I&gt;Does such a line as “The ocean doesn’t care if it is August” followed by “then it is August&quot; really carry much freight, other than a bland pathetic fallacy?&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;How august.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;I&gt;The august, inhospitable, inhuman night&lt;BR/&gt;Glittering magnificently unperturbed&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;- William Wallace, praised very highly by Yeats in his anthology of Modern Poetry&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;I&gt;Faville, </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115834379953190718'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115834379953190718'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html?showComment=1158343740000#c115834379953190718' title=''/><author><name>ombilic des</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03318554537326184413</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115814593909924484' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115814593909924484' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1506852026"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 15, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115833814379440614</id><published>2006-09-15T12:35:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-15T12:35:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>For someone who has read 20th and 21st century Ame...</title><summary type='text'>For someone who has read 20th and 21st century American poetry without being aware of the behind-the-scenes politics of the different &quot;schools&quot;, Stephanie Young&#39;s poetry is one that is both challenging and easy to identify with. Unlike the &quot;intellectual or aesthetic ambition&quot; of some of her contemporaries, Young&#39;s poetics seems to me one that is down-to-earth honest while showing careful craft </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115833814379440614'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115833814379440614'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html?showComment=1158338100000#c115833814379440614' title=''/><author><name>Ernesto</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11969105712582566329</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115814593909924484' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115814593909924484' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-987189629"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 15, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115826073033278400</id><published>2006-09-14T15:05:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-14T15:05:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Asking for a poem  to be explicated -- for its mea...</title><summary type='text'>Asking for a poem  to be explicated -- for its meaning to be told --  might be an unfair or even wrongheaded  question.   The question &quot;what does it mean&quot; includes the assumption that the poet intended some particular  meaning or any meaning at all.   &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I think there&#39;s plenty of room for poems to occupy between &quot;gibberish&quot; (Curtis&#39;s word) and those works that have lines or a message that </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115826073033278400'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115826073033278400'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html?showComment=1158260700000#c115826073033278400' title=''/><author><name>Steven Fama</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04378273134042527425</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115814593909924484' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115814593909924484' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1945919831"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 14, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115825788036273788</id><published>2006-09-14T14:18:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-14T14:18:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>let me be the tenth man to comment.  i like stepha...</title><summary type='text'>let me be the tenth man to comment.  i like stephanie young.  one time i ordered a chapbook and she sent me two.  i love brenda iijima, tho, have you thought about her stratospheric level of social sublimation?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115825788036273788'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115825788036273788'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html?showComment=1158257880000#c115825788036273788' title=''/><author><name>jesse</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15430253706561827669</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115814593909924484' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115814593909924484' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1299334260"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 14, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115824528877018641</id><published>2006-09-14T10:48:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-14T10:48:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Zeke, your questions are perfectly apt and pertine...</title><summary type='text'>Zeke, your questions are perfectly apt and pertinent.  These are the very questions around which an estimation of the signficance of this kind of writing must hinge.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I see ample precedent for Stephanie Young’s style of writing, but I regard it as only a pedestrian attempt at employment. She’s obviously very intelligent, and she’s been to school with some—if not all—of the avant writers</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115824528877018641'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115824528877018641'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html?showComment=1158245280000#c115824528877018641' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115814593909924484' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115814593909924484' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 14, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115823699870614635</id><published>2006-09-14T08:29:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-14T08:29:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115823699870614635'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115823699870614635'/><author><name>phaneronoemikon</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08430230355065457354</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115814593909924484' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115814593909924484' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1411460047"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 14, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115821648585170641</id><published>2006-09-14T02:48:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-14T02:48:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>What’s It All Mean?Now, I’m thoroughly confused.As...</title><summary type='text'>&lt;B&gt;What’s It All Mean?&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Now, I’m thoroughly confused.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;As a professional philosopher, I often find myself at odds with both physicists and mathematicians, not to mention sabermetricions and theologians, but be that as it may, these odds have nothing to do with the hill of beans we now find ourselves occupying, though never, never did I expect to find myself between a rock (</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115821648585170641'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115821648585170641'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html?showComment=1158216480000#c115821648585170641' title=''/><author><name>Zeke Hunkaburning</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05144662896092856507</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115814593909924484' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115814593909924484' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-820081779"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 14, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115819229394934148</id><published>2006-09-13T20:04:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-13T20:04:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Yep, Curtis&#39; statement that &quot;the argument of the p...</title><summary type='text'>Yep, Curtis&#39; statement that &quot;the argument of the poem must seem inevitable by the last line&quot; is simply his preference, or taste, in poetry.   There ain&#39;t no rule nowhere that says a poem&#39;s argument has to seem inevtiable by its last line.  That&#39;s a rule only for Curtis and others who share his particular taste. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Curtis is entitled to his taste and preferences, and if  he wants </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115819229394934148'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115819229394934148'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html?showComment=1158192240000#c115819229394934148' title=''/><author><name>Steven Fama</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04378273134042527425</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115814593909924484' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115814593909924484' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1945919831"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 13, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115818705054310659</id><published>2006-09-13T18:37:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-13T18:37:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>This is great writing.&quot;it’s the level, not the spe...</title><summary type='text'>This is great writing.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;it’s the level, not the specific, that is the point&quot; is an acute observation.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I&#39;m not sure about the Berrigan comparison; I could perhaps see it in the second one, if I try--certainly not in the first. And I suspect that the second is, not &quot;flarf,&quot; but intentional writing that manages to achieve &quot;flarflike&quot; energetic effects. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Curtis, I think </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115818705054310659'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115818705054310659'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html?showComment=1158187020000#c115818705054310659' title=''/><author><name>andy gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00797822725132844348</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115814593909924484' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115814593909924484' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1436621432"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 13, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115816309680589725</id><published>2006-09-13T11:58:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-13T11:58:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Glad you&#39;ve found this one, Ron. Stephanie&#39;s curre...</title><summary type='text'>Glad you&#39;ve found this one, Ron. Stephanie&#39;s current manuscript, Picture Palace (if that&#39;s still the title) has been amazing me for the better part of the last two years as well. No info on when or if it might be published, but definitely one to look for.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Oh, and... I&#39;ll be outing a bit of personal history with this one, but I think the titles you characterize as captions in a kid&#39;s book</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115816309680589725'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115816309680589725'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html?showComment=1158163080000#c115816309680589725' title=''/><author><name>Taylor Brady</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09012539106879124292</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115814593909924484' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115814593909924484' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-403237288"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 13, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115815979476071507</id><published>2006-09-13T11:03:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-13T11:03:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I find this poetry very interesting, that ‘drawing...</title><summary type='text'>I find this poetry very interesting, that ‘drawing as it does from language poetry &amp; the New York School both, using multiple tones or something very close to discursive colouring in a way that is, at once, both painterly &amp; politically conscious’. I think Ron Silliman is right to connect this to the ‘possible plasticity of tonal colour’; I think in reading O’Hara one of the most startling and </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115815979476071507'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115815979476071507'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html?showComment=1158159780000#c115815979476071507' title=''/><author><name>Colin</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00329054918618041522</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115814593909924484' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115814593909924484' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1617533599"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 13, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115815938196297757</id><published>2006-09-13T10:56:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-13T10:56:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;Apprentice-work&quot;? I tried to resist commenting, b...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;Apprentice-work&quot;? I tried to resist commenting, but I just couldn&#39;t.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115815938196297757'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115815938196297757'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html?showComment=1158159360000#c115815938196297757' title=''/><author><name>Max</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/18171731007326838375</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115814593909924484' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115814593909924484' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1533672398"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 13, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115815365254195359</id><published>2006-09-13T09:20:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-13T09:20:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ashbery opened the door on this kind of disembodie...</title><summary type='text'>Ashbery opened the door on this kind of disembodied, shifting viewpoints/multi-valenced meditation.  Young&#39;s poems obviously work off this technique, albeit a little clunkily.  It&#39;s no easier, and no less demanding, a formal technique than really tight formal rhyme (for instance).  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The line-break is not just an opportunity for surprise, but repeatedly an horizontal &quot;level&quot; in which </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115815365254195359'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115814593909924484/comments/default/115815365254195359'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html?showComment=1158153600000#c115815365254195359' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/stephanie-young-has-been-having-one.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115814593909924484' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115814593909924484' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 13, 2006"/></entry></feed>