<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post115866119694415112..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>23</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115905629834046536</id><published>2006-09-23T20:04:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-23T20:04:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Joe, you&#39;re thinking about specific people. I&#39;m th...</title><summary type='text'>Joe, you&#39;re thinking about specific people. I&#39;m thinking about systems.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;People are pretty much the same the world over.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But some systems function better.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I think you think I am saying something about specific people(s).&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Can you recall a time in the last five years when our government ordered 20 people shot in this country for protesting against wind power?&lt;BR/&gt;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115905629834046536'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115905629834046536'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html?showComment=1159056240000#c115905629834046536' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115866119694415112' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115866119694415112' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 23, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115903666653808810</id><published>2006-09-23T14:37:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-23T14:37:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Wrote last post twice because I thought I lost the...</title><summary type='text'>Wrote last post twice because I thought I lost the first one.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;JT</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115903666653808810'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115903666653808810'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html?showComment=1159036620000#c115903666653808810' title=''/><author><name>joseph torra</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17238560007193781306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115866119694415112' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115866119694415112' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1512183702"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 23, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115903660360136277</id><published>2006-09-23T14:36:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-23T14:36:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Kirby,I&#39;m referring to your early comment about Ch...</title><summary type='text'>Kirby,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I&#39;m referring to your early comment about China/Chinese people. There you never mention Kierkegaard, Nietzsche, postmodernism or Language Poetry.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;During my life time I have seen Americans shot and killed for protesting. And we have a long history of such activity. Look at how many American workers were slaughtered by the government during the labor movement. So what is </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115903660360136277'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115903660360136277'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html?showComment=1159036560000#c115903660360136277' title=''/><author><name>joseph torra</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17238560007193781306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115866119694415112' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115866119694415112' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1512183702"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 23, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115903619115830288</id><published>2006-09-23T14:29:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-23T14:29:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Kirby,In my own life time many people have been sh...</title><summary type='text'>Kirby,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In my own life time many people have been shot dead in this country during protests. And it goes back decades and decades--heck--look at how many people were slaughtered by our government during the labor movement. So what&#39;s your point?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I was taking issue with your rap about China, in which you never even mention Kierkegaard or Nietzsche or postmodernism or Language </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115903619115830288'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115903619115830288'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html?showComment=1159036140000#c115903619115830288' title=''/><author><name>joseph torra</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17238560007193781306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115866119694415112' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115866119694415112' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1512183702"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 23, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115902390554923825</id><published>2006-09-23T11:05:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-23T11:05:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Joe, I&#39;m reacting to the principle thrust of Ron&#39;s...</title><summary type='text'>Joe, I&#39;m reacting to the principle thrust of Ron&#39;s post here.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;He argues implicitly that Red China is progressive and part of modernity while Lutheranism and Islamic religions are not.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I have had a few friends from China.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But I&#39;m dealing here with what I take to be Ron&#39;s crypto-Berkeley-Maoism in the forge of which Language poetry was born.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Are you going to </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115902390554923825'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115902390554923825'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html?showComment=1159023900000#c115902390554923825' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115866119694415112' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115866119694415112' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 23, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115901094640260474</id><published>2006-09-23T07:29:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-23T07:29:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Is Kirby Olson kidding? Kirby, have you ever spent...</title><summary type='text'>Is Kirby Olson kidding? Kirby, have you ever spent any serious amount of time in China? How many people who live in, or came from China have you known very well? How much Chinese literature (philosophy, history, poetry etc.) have you read? Where do you get all your misinformation from? You are clueless. I don&#39;t have time to take your argument apart piece by piece, nor do I care to. But even a </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115901094640260474'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115901094640260474'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html?showComment=1159010940000#c115901094640260474' title=''/><author><name>joseph torra</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17238560007193781306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115866119694415112' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115866119694415112' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1512183702"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 23, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115896476272858585</id><published>2006-09-22T18:39:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-22T18:39:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis and Kirby,well these are interesting though...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis and Kirby,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;well these are interesting thoughts.  Some things to be noted in passing:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;1) The peasantry in China has been peasantry for several thousand years (or much of it has).  In traditional (pre-PRC) China, something like 95% of the people were illiterate (and farmers).  The PRC has made major efforts to increase literacy of the common people -- including introducing </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115896476272858585'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115896476272858585'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html?showComment=1158964740000#c115896476272858585' title=''/><author><name>david raphael israel</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07535589040322113419</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115866119694415112' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115866119694415112' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1441140986"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 22, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115893354708760594</id><published>2006-09-22T09:59:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-22T09:59:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>David, I wasn&#39;t offering a serious interpretation ...</title><summary type='text'>David, I wasn&#39;t offering a serious interpretation of any kind of the photographic series. I had never heard of this photographer before, and would minimally want to read what&#39;s available in terms of interviews, etc., before I offered a serious interpretation.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It was just my allergy to Red China that created my reaction to this post.  IF China is to become the next great power, then I </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115893354708760594'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115893354708760594'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html?showComment=1158933540000#c115893354708760594' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115866119694415112' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115866119694415112' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 22, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115889989629874496</id><published>2006-09-22T00:38:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-22T00:38:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>David:It should no less difficult to believe--desp...</title><summary type='text'>David:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It should no less difficult to believe--despite the mis- and dis- information the media continuously spews--to remember (much less to be routinely reminded) that the majority of middle America is at least as insular and provincial and isolationist as any Chinese peasantry.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Americans left the land because they were forced to, not because they wanted.  It is thus in China</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115889989629874496'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115889989629874496'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html?showComment=1158899880000#c115889989629874496' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115866119694415112' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115866119694415112' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 22, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115889601403870541</id><published>2006-09-21T23:33:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-21T23:33:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Indeed, from the Chinese bicyclist&#39;s perspective, ...</title><summary type='text'>Indeed, from the Chinese bicyclist&#39;s perspective, America may be a mere blip on the screen, a rumor without substantiation, a vague reference sometimes mentioned in newspapers, a whisp of imagination, less certain than the cloud.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In that sense, one may say that America is the true subject of the photo sequence. :-)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;sjhpmwqh</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115889601403870541'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115889601403870541'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html?showComment=1158895980000#c115889601403870541' title=''/><author><name>david raphael israel</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07535589040322113419</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115866119694415112' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115866119694415112' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1441140986"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 21, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115888486725817068</id><published>2006-09-21T20:27:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-21T20:27:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>:-)It&#39;s hard for Americans to believe that everyth...</title><summary type='text'>:-)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It&#39;s hard for Americans to believe that everything isn&#39;t obviously about &lt;I&gt;them&lt;/I&gt; ;-) -- that some Chinese might be content to ride along a country road in China, without reference to or consideration of escape.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In general, both in India and China, the madness for progress is somewhat strong in cities, and is often still very weak out in the countryside.  The level of </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115888486725817068'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115888486725817068'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html?showComment=1158884820000#c115888486725817068' title=''/><author><name>david raphael israel</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07535589040322113419</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115866119694415112' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115866119694415112' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1441140986"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 21, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115887167553224898</id><published>2006-09-21T16:47:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-21T16:47:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>David, this is nice but I bet there is some Chines...</title><summary type='text'>David, this is nice but I bet there is some Chinese person, somewhere, who got out on a bicycle.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And that there would be no one left if it was that easy for the others.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115887167553224898'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115887167553224898'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html?showComment=1158871620000#c115887167553224898' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115866119694415112' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115866119694415112' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 21, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115886741905488821</id><published>2006-09-21T15:36:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-21T15:36:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Kirby,it seems safe to say, nobody has ever gotten...</title><summary type='text'>Kirby,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;it seems safe to say, nobody has ever gotten out of the PRC on a literal bicycle (and I&#39;m not clear on the figuration, if somebody has done so or thought to do so on a figurative one).  So it&#39;s interesting how (&amp; to what degree) your personal exposure to contemporary Chinese in American university towns seems to have impacted your viewing of the photo series.  But consider this: </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115886741905488821'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115886741905488821'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html?showComment=1158867360000#c115886741905488821' title=''/><author><name>david raphael israel</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07535589040322113419</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115866119694415112' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115866119694415112' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1441140986"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 21, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115885664410562050</id><published>2006-09-21T12:37:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-21T12:37:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>re: Brooklyn Abroad: &quot;home channel meets Family of...</title><summary type='text'>re: Brooklyn Abroad: &quot;home channel meets Family of Man&quot;? hmmm., Do you see the work as straight documentary?  Did you read the texts? &lt;BR/&gt;We got irony.&lt;BR/&gt;thanks for looking.&lt;BR/&gt;-Andrea and Max</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115885664410562050'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115885664410562050'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html?showComment=1158856620000#c115885664410562050' title=''/><author><name>robbinsbecher</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/02954295554307779556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115866119694415112' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115866119694415112' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-944518458"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 21, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115884844591392453</id><published>2006-09-21T10:20:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-21T10:20:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I see the picture as more one of: let&#39;s emigrate o...</title><summary type='text'>I see the picture as more one of: let&#39;s emigrate out of Mao&#39;s socialism by any means necessary, or whatever wheels they&#39;ve left available.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;How many Chinese immigrants per year now?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I&#39;m guessing it&#39;s hundreds of thousands.  At my school they sign up for courses but as soon as they get here they disappear to NYC, where they have enormous social groups waiting to help them get out.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115884844591392453'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115884844591392453'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html?showComment=1158848400000#c115884844591392453' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115866119694415112' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115866119694415112' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 21, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115884145188785976</id><published>2006-09-21T08:24:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-21T08:24:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115884145188785976'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115884145188785976'/><author><name>phaneronoemikon</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08430230355065457354</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115866119694415112' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115866119694415112' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1411460047"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 21, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115881497319797345</id><published>2006-09-21T01:02:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-21T01:02:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I should have said &quot;food tastes better when you&#39;re...</title><summary type='text'>I should have said &quot;food tastes better when you&#39;re in a physical environment that coincides with your visual, spacial, and social preferences at a given moment.&quot;  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;On Iron Chef they talk a lot about &#39;presentation,&#39; as well, which is more directly involved with the food, but is, in its away, a context for the ...primary... experience of taste.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And, no, I don&#39;t hear Eliot&#39;s </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115881497319797345'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115881497319797345'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html?showComment=1158814920000#c115881497319797345' title=''/><author><name>Brett</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09958984151677722851</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115866119694415112' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115866119694415112' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1222757787"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 21, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115877069555108928</id><published>2006-09-20T12:44:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-20T12:44:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;I also can&#39;t read certain kinds of poems that hav...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;I also can&#39;t read certain kinds of poems that have certain rhythms and images without hearing certain professor&#39;s voices chastizing disorder and T.S. Eliot denouncing experiment-for-experiment&#39;s sake.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;He really should have titled The Waste Land &quot;He Do the Police in Different Voices&quot; (spoken by Sloppy in the story). Oh well.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Do you also hear Eliot denouncing the Jews and </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115877069555108928'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115877069555108928'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html?showComment=1158770640000#c115877069555108928' title=''/><author><name>ombilic des</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03318554537326184413</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115866119694415112' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115866119694415112' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1506852026"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 20, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115872733567918364</id><published>2006-09-20T00:42:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-20T00:42:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Well Brett, you can do what I did and attack Zioni...</title><summary type='text'>Well Brett, you can do what I did and attack Zionism and Ron&#39;s failure to address it in comments like:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;Islam’s variant isn’t so far from Christianity’s in this regard&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Or, you could hop a US Naval vessel like I did and get next to the famous LeBron.  Now, that was better than getting to see King Fahed coming into the ER one day wrapped in a Pink Blanket &#39;to disguise him&#39; AND </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115872733567918364'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115872733567918364'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html?showComment=1158727320000#c115872733567918364' title=''/><author><name>Lady Jane</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04555982712708881025</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115866119694415112' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115866119694415112' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1542572767"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 20, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115872450828762774</id><published>2006-09-19T23:55:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-19T23:55:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Yea, I do have a couple of blogs, but I tend to th...</title><summary type='text'>Yea, I do have a couple of blogs, but I tend to them as I have my banjo - excited attention for brief periods, and then apathetic neglect for very long stretches of time.  I need to make myself make a &#39;system&#39; or a &#39;protocol&#39; for my blogs so that they have boundaries and therefore direction.  Maybe I&#39;ll do that someday.  This problem with motivation...</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115872450828762774'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115872450828762774'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html?showComment=1158724500000#c115872450828762774' title=''/><author><name>Brett</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09958984151677722851</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115866119694415112' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115866119694415112' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1222757787"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 19, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115871283131472435</id><published>2006-09-19T20:40:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-19T20:40:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>but you do have a blog, brett, a few. go to town. ...</title><summary type='text'>but you do have a blog, brett, a few. go to town. i shall look.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;as for the art crit. i find hard to read ( read *trust* )a crit without seeing the actual art. well, it can be read, but visual art, *sigh* has still to be seen, despite context, despite concept, for full coherent impact. in flesh i mean, the one, as opposed to online repro&#39;s. print is more egalitarian that way.if a picture </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115871283131472435'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115871283131472435'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html?showComment=1158712800000#c115871283131472435' title=''/><author><name>eric d</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04379940441617523445</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115866119694415112' 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type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115870940209471592'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115866119694415112/comments/default/115870940209471592'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html?showComment=1158709380000#c115870940209471592' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/most-moving-and-how-ironic-that-old.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115866119694415112' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115866119694415112' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 19, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115868682558173755</id><published>2006-09-19T13:27:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-19T13:27:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Interesting...I have been thinking, myself, about ...</title><summary type='text'>Interesting...I have been thinking, myself, about context quite a bit recently, and, as it concerns this blog, thinking that Ron spends a lot of time talking about context and, more importantly, adding to our own personal contexts when we read/experience something &#39;artistic.&#39;  I can no longer read certain kinds of poems that have certain rhythms and images without having a voice in my head </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' 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