<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post116056300314283921..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116056300314283921/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/john-tranter-responded-to-my-comments.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>10</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116102006942352952</id><published>2006-10-16T13:34:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-16T13:34:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>One more thing:  purists wld tell you to get rid o...</title><summary type='text'>One more thing:  purists wld tell you to get rid of the &quot;MsoNormal&quot; argument, which suggests that you did your initial formatting in MS Word.  &quot;MsoNormal&quot; is &quot;junk code&quot;.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116056300314283921/comments/default/116102006942352952'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116056300314283921/comments/default/116102006942352952'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/john-tranter-responded-to-my-comments.html?showComment=1161020040000#c116102006942352952' title=''/><author><name>James</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/02180536581514465000</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/john-tranter-responded-to-my-comments.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116056300314283921' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116056300314283921' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-2122468508"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 16, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116069323345167664</id><published>2006-10-12T18:47:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-12T18:47:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>preformat coupled w/ some CSS to define the tag si...</title><summary type='text'>preformat coupled w/ some CSS to define the tag site-wide is a pretty okay, tho time-consuming solution to some poetry setting issues...</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116056300314283921/comments/default/116069323345167664'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116056300314283921/comments/default/116069323345167664'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/john-tranter-responded-to-my-comments.html?showComment=1160693220000#c116069323345167664' title=''/><author><name>O. Hunt</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08264688700590474975</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/john-tranter-responded-to-my-comments.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116056300314283921' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116056300314283921' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-926566310"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 12, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116067323079224079</id><published>2006-10-12T13:13:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-12T13:13:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Some browsers might also allow a negative number i...</title><summary type='text'>Some browsers might also allow a negative number in the text-indent argument. Thus, one might write &lt;BR/&gt;blockquote p { text-indent: -5ex; }&lt;BR/&gt;To arrive at something like the drop-head Ron represents here.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116056300314283921/comments/default/116067323079224079'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116056300314283921/comments/default/116067323079224079'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/john-tranter-responded-to-my-comments.html?showComment=1160673180000#c116067323079224079' title=''/><author><name>James</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/02180536581514465000</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/john-tranter-responded-to-my-comments.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116056300314283921' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116056300314283921' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-2122468508"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 12, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116065492112051100</id><published>2006-10-12T08:08:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-12T08:08:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I have tried the preformat tag for poetry but it i...</title><summary type='text'>I have tried the preformat tag for poetry but it is disruptive. Given the typographical control the computer screen allows, it is than a shame to have to mess with this markup language thing. I don&#39;t have the time to learn the intricacies, but I can&#39;t shake the feeling that html is counter-intuitive, &amp; kinda stupid.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116056300314283921/comments/default/116065492112051100'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116056300314283921/comments/default/116065492112051100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/john-tranter-responded-to-my-comments.html?showComment=1160654880000#c116065492112051100' title=''/><author><name>derek</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15992475453328145902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/john-tranter-responded-to-my-comments.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116056300314283921' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116056300314283921' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-892883201"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 12, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116060058341517370</id><published>2006-10-11T17:03:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-11T17:03:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Regarding style: David Foster Wallace champions Br...</title><summary type='text'>Regarding style: David Foster Wallace champions Bryan Garner&#39;s &lt;I&gt;Dictionary of Modern American Usage&lt;/I&gt; in &quot;Authority and American Usage&quot;, originally published in &lt;I&gt;Harper&#39;s&lt;/I&gt; and collected in an expanded form in &lt;I&gt;Consider the Lobster&lt;/I&gt;. After discussing the politics involved in compiling usage and style manuals, DFW claims that Garner is a &quot;near-genius&quot; for respecting usage (i.e. taking</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116056300314283921/comments/default/116060058341517370'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116056300314283921/comments/default/116060058341517370'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/john-tranter-responded-to-my-comments.html?showComment=1160600580000#c116060058341517370' title=''/><author><name>Patrick Dillon</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04175884937968045605</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/john-tranter-responded-to-my-comments.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116056300314283921' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116056300314283921' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1634681312"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 11, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116059980682365710</id><published>2006-10-11T16:50:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-11T16:50:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Thanks for the correction/clarification, and again...</title><summary type='text'>Thanks for the correction/clarification, and again I appreciate when you and others think about how your writing is going to look.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;When you say &quot;the quotations above&quot; do you refer to the lines from &quot;Howl&quot; in your post today?   If yes, the choice of the adverb &quot;above&quot; is interesting, because at least on my computer your daily posts appear below or behind (and to the right of) the comment </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116056300314283921/comments/default/116059980682365710'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116056300314283921/comments/default/116059980682365710'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/john-tranter-responded-to-my-comments.html?showComment=1160599800000#c116059980682365710' title=''/><author><name>Steven Fama</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04378273134042527425</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/john-tranter-responded-to-my-comments.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116056300314283921' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116056300314283921' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1945919831"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 11, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116059728331451072</id><published>2006-10-11T16:08:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-11T16:08:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>No, I mostly use Arial, but for quotations like th...</title><summary type='text'>No, I mostly use Arial, but for quotations like the above I choose Verdana because it has a slightlier airier feel to it that sets off the difference between body text and quotation without being visually jarring.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116056300314283921/comments/default/116059728331451072'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116056300314283921/comments/default/116059728331451072'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/john-tranter-responded-to-my-comments.html?showComment=1160597280000#c116059728331451072' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/john-tranter-responded-to-my-comments.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116056300314283921' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116056300314283921' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 11, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116059275431071778</id><published>2006-10-11T14:52:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-11T14:52:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>HTMLers are very talented; seemingly magicians to ...</title><summary type='text'>HTMLers are very talented; seemingly magicians to those of us, &lt;I&gt;myself included&lt;/I&gt;, who can only manage an occasional italics when posting.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;More basic but most fundamental, on the web or in print, are the font, font size, and margins.  In printed legal documents, I  think 13 point Times New Roman or Courier New look good. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;If I read Ron&#39;s code right, he uses Verdana for the</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116056300314283921/comments/default/116059275431071778'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116056300314283921/comments/default/116059275431071778'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/john-tranter-responded-to-my-comments.html?showComment=1160592720000#c116059275431071778' title=''/><author><name>Steven Fama</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04378273134042527425</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/john-tranter-responded-to-my-comments.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116056300314283921' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116056300314283921' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1945919831"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 11, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116057464436439895</id><published>2006-10-11T09:50:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-11T09:50:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I wonder, parenthetically, how Wallace Stevens wou...</title><summary type='text'>I wonder, parenthetically, how Wallace Stevens would have composed, had he had access to a personal computer.  My guess is he would have experimented with typefaces, spacing, and visual arrangements of lines on the page.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Check out the page layouts of Knopf for his collections, and see how old-fashioned they now seem.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Put George Salter beside Chip Kidd.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116056300314283921/comments/default/116057464436439895'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116056300314283921/comments/default/116057464436439895'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/john-tranter-responded-to-my-comments.html?showComment=1160574600000#c116057464436439895' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/john-tranter-responded-to-my-comments.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116056300314283921' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116056300314283921' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 11, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116057403276712924</id><published>2006-10-11T09:40:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-11T09:40:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Each era carries its own preference for visual rep...</title><summary type='text'>Each era carries its own preference for visual reproduction of text.  And different cultures, obviously, have had alternative means.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;A serious study needs still to be done, about the relationship between Whitman&#39;s and Dickinson&#39;s works, and the late Victorian typographic protocols.  Our apprehension of how a writer is to be perceived is markedly influenced by the &quot;glass&quot; into which the</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116056300314283921/comments/default/116057403276712924'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116056300314283921/comments/default/116057403276712924'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/john-tranter-responded-to-my-comments.html?showComment=1160574000000#c116057403276712924' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/john-tranter-responded-to-my-comments.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116056300314283921' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116056300314283921' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 11, 2006"/></entry></feed>