<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post116532109239313948..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>15</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116537026828061380</id><published>2006-12-05T20:57:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-12-05T20:57:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The discussion seems a bit muddied here. I suspect...</title><summary type='text'>The discussion seems a bit muddied here. I suspect because Bloom got tossed into the well. Bad water -- make see things &amp; speak in tongues. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Whatever can be said of his _Anxiety of Influence_, it&#39;s not a theory of schools. Little fish swim in schools, strong big poet men duke it out mano a mano in the center ring. Sometimes leave schools behind, but that&#39;s neither here nor anywhere. </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116537026828061380'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116537026828061380'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html?showComment=1165370220000#c116537026828061380' title=''/><author><name>Kirk Johnson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05529898733002317995</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116532109239313948' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116532109239313948' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-895736745"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 05, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116536040748432405</id><published>2006-12-05T18:13:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-12-05T18:13:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The anxiety of influence is something I find doesn...</title><summary type='text'>The anxiety of influence is something I find doesn&#39;t make me anxious. I embrace influence. I&#39;m not ashamed of being influenced at all, it&#39;s more a badge of honor. At the same time, most of my influences don&#39;t often appear as blatant homage in my work, visual, musical, or poetic. I follow Basho&#39;s dictum most of all, even as I acknowledge him as a strong influence on my poetry: &quot;Don&#39;t imitate the </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116536040748432405'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116536040748432405'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html?showComment=1165360380000#c116536040748432405' title=''/><author><name>Art Durkee</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07399620147907002735</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116532109239313948' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116532109239313948' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1119200278"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 05, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116535930555935863</id><published>2006-12-05T17:55:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-12-05T17:55:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>john, I suppose there&#39;s going to be overlap and ex...</title><summary type='text'>john, I suppose there&#39;s going to be overlap and exceptions wherever, and whenever, we look for generational watersheds.  &quot;Everything happens all at once&quot; is often true.  For the purposes of our argument here, I would NOT characterize Duncan, Thorpe, Meltzer, Di Prima, Hollo, Palmer (for example(s)), as &quot;alternatives&quot; to &quot;Language [centered] Writing&quot;--they simply come from an earlier kind of </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116535930555935863'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116535930555935863'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html?showComment=1165359300000#c116535930555935863' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116532109239313948' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116532109239313948' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 05, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116535292883735572</id><published>2006-12-05T16:08:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-12-05T16:08:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>curtis,in regard to ACTS, no i don&#39;t think so. i h...</title><summary type='text'>curtis,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;in regard to ACTS, no i don&#39;t think so. i have the first issue here in front of me with a 1982 copyright. the issue among others includes duncan (the issue was printed in his and jess&#39;s basement), scalapino, levi strauss, mcnaughton, thackrey, hollo, robert kocik, john thorpe, sarah menefee, robert grenier and palmer...benjamin hollander comes along as co-editor a few issues </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116535292883735572'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116535292883735572'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html?showComment=1165352880000#c116535292883735572' title=''/><author><name>John Sakkis</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08621102858745971700</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116532109239313948' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116532109239313948' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1144833194"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 05, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116535188851791706</id><published>2006-12-05T15:51:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-12-05T15:51:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I believe there is a TRANS-transitional generation...</title><summary type='text'>I believe there is a TRANS-transitional generation, in between Burp and Big Gulp, the Wheeze-Bs.  This grouping includes marginal figures who have been flushed out of all pigeonholes west of the 38th Parallel and south of Rio Grande do Brasil.  Wheeze-B poetics is characterized by the use of unusual characters, like @ and %, also the occasional &amp;.  The Wheeze-Bs were generally pretty quietudinous</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116535188851791706'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116535188851791706'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html?showComment=1165351860000#c116535188851791706' title=''/><author><name>Henry Gould</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04783460308217456577</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116532109239313948' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116532109239313948' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1417109118"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 05, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116535108124076014</id><published>2006-12-05T15:38:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-12-05T15:38:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Oh, and I don&#39;t really see the Palmer ghost in the...</title><summary type='text'>Oh, and I don&#39;t really see the Palmer ghost in the Lerner machine.  There&#39;s certainly an elegance to both of their writing, and a self-distancing use of various rhetorics, but there&#39;s also I think finally an elegaic or intimate quality to Palmer that, if present in Lerner&#39;s work so far, is present more as a simulacra of private emotion than say a dramatization or revelation of it.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116535108124076014'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116535108124076014'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html?showComment=1165351080000#c116535108124076014' title=''/><author><name>Tony Tost</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15765857872778493229</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116532109239313948' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116532109239313948' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1599768463"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 05, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116534868311438029</id><published>2006-12-05T14:58:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-12-05T14:58:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>What happens if the &quot;transitional generation&quot; is m...</title><summary type='text'>What happens if the &quot;transitional generation&quot; is more interesting than the generation they&#39;re supposed to be the transition into?  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;A new terminology to add to the others:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The Big Gulp generation: Coolidge, Shurin, Cole, Palmer, Scalapino, Bromige, Ronald Johnson, etc.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The Burp generation: Watten, Silliman, Andrews, Robinson, Benson, Bernstein, Grenier. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Always</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116534868311438029'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116534868311438029'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html?showComment=1165348680000#c116534868311438029' title=''/><author><name>Tony Tost</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15765857872778493229</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116532109239313948' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116532109239313948' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1599768463"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 05, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116534820106345263</id><published>2006-12-05T14:50:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-12-05T14:50:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>John, aren&#39;t these all writers who started to publ...</title><summary type='text'>John, aren&#39;t these all writers who started to publish after the &quot;Language School&quot; period of the 1970&#39;s and 1980&#39;s?--you mean they&#39;re after that?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116534820106345263'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116534820106345263'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html?showComment=1165348200000#c116534820106345263' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116532109239313948' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116532109239313948' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 05, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116534353638695892</id><published>2006-12-05T13:32:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-12-05T13:32:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>other &quot;transitional generation&quot; poets (though in m...</title><summary type='text'>other &quot;transitional generation&quot; poets (though in most cases not older than their &quot;language&quot; peers):&lt;BR/&gt;david levi strauss and benjamin hollander who edited ACTS together. and while ACTS may have been attached to Duncan through New College it certainly published the gamet of &quot;transitional gen poets&quot;...e.g. Aaron Shurin, Norma Cole, Gad Hollander, Todd Baron, Rick London, Leslie Scalapino, Francis</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116534353638695892'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116534353638695892'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html?showComment=1165343520000#c116534353638695892' title=''/><author><name>John Sakkis</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08621102858745971700</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116532109239313948' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116532109239313948' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1144833194"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 05, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116534223928130709</id><published>2006-12-05T13:10:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-12-05T13:10:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I am buying Ben Lerner&#39;s book, now.I hope Ben Lern...</title><summary type='text'>I am buying Ben Lerner&#39;s book, now.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I hope Ben Lerner wins $100grand some day.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116534223928130709'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116534223928130709'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html?showComment=1165342200000#c116534223928130709' title=''/><author><name>Logan Ryan Smith</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/18315356369259909084</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116532109239313948' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116532109239313948' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-277623651"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 05, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116533699782736223</id><published>2006-12-05T11:43:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-12-05T11:43:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Palmer has always been so unlike Duncan that it ne...</title><summary type='text'>Palmer has always been so unlike Duncan that it never occurred to me to link them.  They may have been friends, but what they shared was completely transformed when they wrote.  Duncan had some sacred cows--the insistence on the root words (&quot;must be in the OED!&quot;) and clearly defined antecedents.  Palmer&#39;s reliance on philosophical argument and method as applied to surrealist approaches to the </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116533699782736223'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116533699782736223'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html?showComment=1165336980000#c116533699782736223' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116532109239313948' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116532109239313948' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 05, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116533551344376541</id><published>2006-12-05T11:18:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-12-05T11:18:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ah, yes, the Anxiety of Influence.  We know it wel...</title><summary type='text'>Ah, yes, the Anxiety of Influence.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;We know it well.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Pick a style, any style, one that you will like.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Try it on for size.  Fit too tight?  We can go bigger.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Our alterations department has a one day turn-a-round.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Do you also need underwear?  We have a wide selection.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Do you want to use your credit card?  Fine, that&#39;ll be $237.62 including tax.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116533551344376541'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116533551344376541'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html?showComment=1165335480000#c116533551344376541' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116532109239313948' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116532109239313948' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 05, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116533278651897091</id><published>2006-12-05T10:33:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-12-05T10:33:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron,You could be right about Peter as magpie (I ca...</title><summary type='text'>Ron,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You could be right about Peter as magpie (I can think of worse birds to be as a poet), but the poem as &quot;reading&quot; may beg the question.  Arguably, all poems are &quot;readings&quot; (and not just in the Bloomian sense), though some are more explicitly &quot;midrashic&quot; than others.  I would have to say that a lot of my work could be read that way...&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Faithfully,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;N.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116533278651897091'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116533278651897091'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html?showComment=1165332780000#c116533278651897091' title=''/><author><name>Norman Finkelstein</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03673105579717018812</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116532109239313948' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116532109239313948' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-282372784"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 05, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116533146647300794</id><published>2006-12-05T10:11:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-12-05T10:11:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Norman,Gizzi, I think, is a different case altoget...</title><summary type='text'>Norman,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Gizzi, I think, is a different case altogether -- he&#39;s a magpie. So many of his poems are themselves &quot;readings&quot; (principally, tho not exclusively, from the New Americans).&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ron</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116533146647300794'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116533146647300794'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html?showComment=1165331460000#c116533146647300794' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116532109239313948' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116532109239313948' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 05, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116532621254468642</id><published>2006-12-05T08:43:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-12-05T08:43:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>These are issues I have spent a lot of time writin...</title><summary type='text'>These are issues I have spent a lot of time writing and thinking about, often focused on the poets you mention, and, of course, on Harold Bloom.  Ron, you claim that “Michael Palmer’s proximity to Robert Duncan, for example, proved as much a handicap as a blessing, especially during his early years.”  I hear surprisingly little Duncan in the early Palmer, despite their close personal connection.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116532621254468642'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116532109239313948/comments/default/116532621254468642'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html?showComment=1165326180000#c116532621254468642' title=''/><author><name>Norman Finkelstein</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03673105579717018812</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/12/nature-of-influence-changes-over-time.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116532109239313948' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116532109239313948' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-282372784"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 05, 2006"/></entry></feed>