<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post116946788076126037..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116946788076126037/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/01/more-than-any-other-poet-of-my.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>11</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116966438842443625</id><published>2007-01-24T13:46:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-01-24T13:46:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Sandburg&#39;s prose style in &quot;American Songbag&quot; was a...</title><summary type='text'>Sandburg&#39;s prose style in &quot;American Songbag&quot; was also a huge influence on Guthrie and Seeger, as well as the songs he collected.  In Dylan&#39;s first flush of fame he visited Sandburg to tell him that Guthrie always spoke highly of him. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Re. Monk:  It&#39;s not just a question of sonic variety and density:  Swing arrangements also exhibited a fecundity of musical imagination; choruses seldom </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116946788076126037/comments/default/116966438842443625'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116946788076126037/comments/default/116966438842443625'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/01/more-than-any-other-poet-of-my.html?showComment=1169664360000#c116966438842443625' title=''/><author><name>John</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/10346667118243205070</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/01/more-than-any-other-poet-of-my.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116946788076126037' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116946788076126037' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1530025638"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 24, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116965166944611883</id><published>2007-01-24T10:14:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-01-24T10:14:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>There is no question that Sandburg is probably the...</title><summary type='text'>There is no question that Sandburg is probably the only notable 20th Century poet who follows directly in chronology from Whitman.  Unless one counts Lindsay (God forbid!).  Then Ginsberg.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Sandburg&#39;s corny populism--he was associated with Socialism--was tempered by his patriotism.  Had he been born 25 years later he might well have become a &#39;Thirties Communist.  His prosey style is </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116946788076126037/comments/default/116965166944611883'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116946788076126037/comments/default/116965166944611883'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/01/more-than-any-other-poet-of-my.html?showComment=1169651640000#c116965166944611883' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/01/more-than-any-other-poet-of-my.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116946788076126037' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116946788076126037' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 24, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116962140198507631</id><published>2007-01-24T01:50:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-01-24T01:50:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Jon,I can understand if you are referring to typic...</title><summary type='text'>Jon,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I can understand if you are referring to typical Monk trio music, the textural and sonic qualities are not as complicated as your average big band. The sheer number of instruments is a huge factor in that. No argument there.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I&#39;d have to think about the AG - Sandburg connection. I don&#39;t see Sandburg in the Open tradition that I&#39;d put Whitman and Williams in, and AG in his </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116946788076126037/comments/default/116962140198507631'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116946788076126037/comments/default/116962140198507631'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/01/more-than-any-other-poet-of-my.html?showComment=1169621400000#c116962140198507631' title=''/><author><name>peN</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08068813038783953187</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/01/more-than-any-other-poet-of-my.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116946788076126037' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116946788076126037' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-499294682"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 24, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116959109600663260</id><published>2007-01-23T17:24:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-01-23T17:24:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis, I thought you were making a joke on his na...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis, I thought you were making a joke on his name.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;peN, I don&#39;t disagree with the gist of what you said, which I thought I&#39;d made clear, but apparently not.  To repeat, &quot;Bop brought a distinctive rhythmic intensity&quot;; and, &quot;tons of swing tunes are . . . rarely as rhythmically complicated or harmonically dense as the average Monk tune.&quot;  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But to say that Monk is rhythmically </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116946788076126037/comments/default/116959109600663260'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116946788076126037/comments/default/116959109600663260'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/01/more-than-any-other-poet-of-my.html?showComment=1169591040000#c116959109600663260' title=''/><author><name>John</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/10346667118243205070</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/01/more-than-any-other-poet-of-my.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116946788076126037' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116946788076126037' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1530025638"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 23, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116956747179215739</id><published>2007-01-23T10:51:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-01-23T10:51:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>John,Monk&#39;s compositions are harmonically and rhyt...</title><summary type='text'>John,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Monk&#39;s compositions are harmonically and rhythmically much more complex than any swing. Bring in Mingus and there&#39;s no question. Bop was an innovation, deepened the complexity of Jazz and did not appeal to the large segment of listeners who wanted something momre simple to which they could dance. Try &lt;I&gt;Brilliant Corners &lt;/I&gt;for example.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I compare the 50&#39;s SoQ poets with </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116946788076126037/comments/default/116956747179215739'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116946788076126037/comments/default/116956747179215739'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/01/more-than-any-other-poet-of-my.html?showComment=1169567460000#c116956747179215739' title=''/><author><name>peN</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08068813038783953187</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/01/more-than-any-other-poet-of-my.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116946788076126037' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116946788076126037' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-499294682"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 23, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116956616493571844</id><published>2007-01-23T10:29:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-01-23T10:29:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>John:Sorry about the slapstick--when you blog fast...</title><summary type='text'>John:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Sorry about the slapstick--when you blog fast and don&#39;t revisit your words for sense--this is what happens....  Note my phrase &quot;a number of Black poets&quot; was not followed by a colon, so strictly speaking, I could have put any racial example behind it without being technically incorrect.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Was Blackburn (just a little bit) &quot;black&quot;--now that&#39;s a mildly interesting question.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116946788076126037/comments/default/116956616493571844'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116946788076126037/comments/default/116956616493571844'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/01/more-than-any-other-poet-of-my.html?showComment=1169566140000#c116956616493571844' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/01/more-than-any-other-poet-of-my.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116946788076126037' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116946788076126037' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 23, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116952954447201508</id><published>2007-01-23T00:19:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-01-23T00:19:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;A number of Black poets. . . . Blackburn.&quot;  Funny...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;A number of Black poets. . . . Blackburn.&quot;  Funny!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;Meaningless&quot; as a denigration of &quot;bop prosody&quot; may be too strong:  it *does* have meaning:  it suggests a milieu and a certain bohemian hipster style and an embarrassingly one-sided love affair, as well as a shared affinity for speed.  The suggestion of milieu worked effectively as marketing.  Hip!  Poets!  Dig!  Bopcats!  It&#39;s the </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116946788076126037/comments/default/116952954447201508'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116946788076126037/comments/default/116952954447201508'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/01/more-than-any-other-poet-of-my.html?showComment=1169529540000#c116952954447201508' title=''/><author><name>John</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/10346667118243205070</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/01/more-than-any-other-poet-of-my.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116946788076126037' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116946788076126037' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1530025638"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 23, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116951896060011277</id><published>2007-01-22T21:22:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-01-22T21:22:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Monk&#39;s compositions are a lot more complicated tha...</title><summary type='text'>Monk&#39;s compositions are a lot more complicated than the average swing tune, so I think John is off the mark here. And Kerouac and Ginsberg DID get inspiration from Bird &amp; Co., so &quot;Bop Prosody&quot; is not a nonsense term for them and those inspired by them. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Beat and Black Mountain literature is to  Monk &amp; Mingus what the &lt;I&gt;School of Quitude &lt;/I&gt; (expanding a European tradition rather than </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116946788076126037/comments/default/116951896060011277'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116946788076126037/comments/default/116951896060011277'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/01/more-than-any-other-poet-of-my.html?showComment=1169518920000#c116951896060011277' title=''/><author><name>peN</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08068813038783953187</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/01/more-than-any-other-poet-of-my.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116946788076126037' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116946788076126037' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-499294682"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 22, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116950771231646400</id><published>2007-01-22T18:15:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-01-22T18:15:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ellington&#39;s intense exploration over a long career...</title><summary type='text'>Ellington&#39;s intense exploration over a long career is unparalleled in musical history.  No other musician (in the French sense of that word) tried as many different ways and means to express emotion, over as long a time.  Perhaps Bach, who matches his variation of mode and mood, but who else?  Just listen.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Bird was a huge intellect in his music.  A non-verbal language, but with vast </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116946788076126037/comments/default/116950771231646400'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116946788076126037/comments/default/116950771231646400'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/01/more-than-any-other-poet-of-my.html?showComment=1169507700000#c116950771231646400' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/01/more-than-any-other-poet-of-my.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116946788076126037' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116946788076126037' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 22, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116948685951107032</id><published>2007-01-22T12:27:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-01-22T12:27:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>p.s.  Mackey is terrific.</title><summary type='text'>p.s.  Mackey is terrific.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116946788076126037/comments/default/116948685951107032'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116946788076126037/comments/default/116948685951107032'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/01/more-than-any-other-poet-of-my.html?showComment=1169486820000#c116948685951107032' title=''/><author><name>John</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/10346667118243205070</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/01/more-than-any-other-poet-of-my.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116946788076126037' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116946788076126037' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1530025638"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 22, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116948040115501973</id><published>2007-01-22T10:40:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-01-22T10:40:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Armstrong and Ellington, profound musicians, stret...</title><summary type='text'>Armstrong and Ellington, profound musicians, stretched intensely in almost all directions.  I love Bird too, but in important respects -- formally and sonically -- bop represented a narrowing; swing arrangements almost always had more internal variety than bop arrangements, formally and sonically (is there a good adverb relating to timbre or tone color?).  Bop brought a distinctive rhythmic </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116946788076126037/comments/default/116948040115501973'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116946788076126037/comments/default/116948040115501973'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/01/more-than-any-other-poet-of-my.html?showComment=1169480400000#c116948040115501973' title=''/><author><name>John</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/10346667118243205070</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/01/more-than-any-other-poet-of-my.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116946788076126037' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116946788076126037' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1530025638"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 22, 2007"/></entry></feed>