<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post2200483675948988153..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>23</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1704841065937503880</id><published>2009-08-08T05:16:10.483-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-08T05:16:10.483-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I&amp;#39;m an American, I&amp;#39;ve come very late to An...</title><summary type='text'>I&amp;#39;m an American, I&amp;#39;ve come very late to Andrew motion&amp;#39;s work and to this blog page, as well. Sorry about that. I was moved by &amp;quot;The Mower&amp;quot; and a few other poems; I read some of his official elegies, which were as good as they needed to be; I&amp;#39;ve read some of his prose and listened to  an interview or two, and I even went ahead and ordered his latest, The Cinder Path, which</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/1704841065937503880'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/1704841065937503880'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html?showComment=1249722970483#c1704841065937503880' title=''/><author><name>JimJman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15475433197492688065</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2200483675948988153' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2200483675948988153' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-287896198"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 08, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7860182532711735596</id><published>2009-03-12T13:02:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-12T13:02:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I don&#39;t mind an unpleasant tone or negative review...</title><summary type='text'>I don&#39;t mind an unpleasant tone or negative reviewing if it&#39;s justified. However, one of your complaints here is based on a simple misunderstanding. It&#39;s quite clear from the context that Motion, perfectly well aware of the Actaeon myth from Ovid&#39;s Metamorphoses, is setting up an ironic reversal of that position, with &#39;Diana&#39;, in her mythological guise here as the huntress goddess, pursued by the</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/7860182532711735596'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/7860182532711735596'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html?showComment=1236877320000#c7860182532711735596' title=''/><author><name>Jane Holland</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15590668593487445482</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_D_yigvTc9AE/ST0ZopL1aRI/AAAAAAAAAX8/ibico6H0A0s/S220/9781844714674.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2200483675948988153' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2200483675948988153' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-261384352"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 12, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3600066999904097858</id><published>2009-03-10T06:48:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-10T06:48:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;If ever one wanted to construct an argument that ...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;If ever one wanted to construct an argument that the British were incapable of serious thought, here is exhibit A.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Goodness. One only needs to walk into an American bookshop to find a whole ABC of exhibits to construct an argument that the Americans (or anyone for that matter) are incapable of serious thought. I can&#39;t believe someone of Ron&#39;s reputation can get away with penning such </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/3600066999904097858'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/3600066999904097858'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html?showComment=1236682080000#c3600066999904097858' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2200483675948988153' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2200483675948988153' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-328297626"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 10, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7803318419838604883</id><published>2009-03-06T12:24:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-03-06T12:24:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Taking potshots at the likes of Motion really ough...</title><summary type='text'>Taking potshots at the likes of Motion really &lt;I&gt;ought&lt;/I&gt; to be shooting fish in a barrel. Trouble is, the barrel-dwellers STILL own all the fish-food supplies, just as they have in the UK at least since the 1950s Movement crew cut the BPR out of the supply chain in the mid-70s.&lt;BR/&gt;Coming back to the poetry world after 30 years of near-avoidance, I find it vaguely depressing to find the same </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/7803318419838604883'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/7803318419838604883'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html?showComment=1236360240000#c7803318419838604883' title=''/><author><name>AidanSemmens</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06557740419796502719</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_JetB-8MLtHQ/SOo781MAz-I/AAAAAAAAAA0/A1Jh0HAWh1c/S220/new-id1.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2200483675948988153' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2200483675948988153' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-2011174218"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 06, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2334981494791145431</id><published>2009-03-06T11:20:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-03-06T11:20:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Kent, I&#39;m not upset - just noting what I consider ...</title><summary type='text'>Kent, I&#39;m not upset - just noting what I consider a selective historical memory if indeed you haven&#39;t seen the need to completely make up stuff this time.  My own take on being a poet in Britain over the years is influenced by Wyndham Lewis&#39; writings, but similar things could be said about the US before Black Mountain.  Dr Williams, Zukofsky, and Moore stuck around; Niedecker was much the worse </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/2334981494791145431'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/2334981494791145431'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html?showComment=1236356400000#c2334981494791145431' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2200483675948988153' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2200483675948988153' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 06, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1213498584844961404</id><published>2009-03-06T10:51:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-03-06T10:51:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The sham histories include asserting that Andrew M...</title><summary type='text'>The sham histories include asserting that Andrew Motion has anything meaningful to do with UK poetry, that there was a &quot;coup&quot; 30 years ago at Poetry magazine, and so on.  But enemies are needed in order to appear oppositional.  If you want to be thought of as on the fringes you have to posit a center.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/1213498584844961404'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/1213498584844961404'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html?showComment=1236354660000#c1213498584844961404' title=''/><author><name>Doodle</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04995332885940017913</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2200483675948988153' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2200483675948988153' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1604261415"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 06, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4180873231331088572</id><published>2009-03-05T15:58:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-03-05T15:58:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ian,I honestly have no idea what you are talking a...</title><summary type='text'>Ian,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I honestly have no idea what you are talking about or what you seem to be getting upset about. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In any case, the only thing I said that could be taken as in any way &quot;tendentious&quot; (though it&#39;s not) was that a number of the leading younger UK avant poets regard U.S. Language poetry with a good measure of skepticism. This is very much in the record. I said nothing critical </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/4180873231331088572'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/4180873231331088572'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html?showComment=1236286680000#c4180873231331088572' title=''/><author><name>Kent Johnson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15233688630151467658</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2200483675948988153' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2200483675948988153' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-901447242"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 05, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2462795447998950032</id><published>2009-03-05T11:37:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-03-05T11:37:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Kent, By saying &quot;British Poetry Revival&quot; I was ref...</title><summary type='text'>Kent, By saying &quot;British Poetry Revival&quot; I was referring to the same people referred to by you and others, whose work is not from &quot;a long time ago.&quot;  &quot;Sham histories&quot; is when you try to reconstruct the entire impetus for a movement that&#39;s developed over 50 years by slapping together some &quot;the kids agree with us&quot; stratagem, making inner dissention expressed in one essay useful to the establishment.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/2462795447998950032'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/2462795447998950032'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html?showComment=1236271020000#c2462795447998950032' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2200483675948988153' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2200483675948988153' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 05, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7842473532114375349</id><published>2009-03-04T20:53:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-03-04T20:53:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I&#39;ve always been a fan of the art of reviewing thi...</title><summary type='text'>I&#39;ve always been a fan of the art of reviewing things: music, literature, film. I&#39;ve always loved GOOD critics. Lester Bangs, Pauline Kael, Walter Benjamin, Susan Sontag...you know GOOD reviewers. And I&#39;ve always been particularly attracted to reviews panning someone else&#39;s work. Apparently I&#39;m mean spirited and enjoy sarcasm and cutting wit too much. This is one of the best bad reviews I&#39;ve ever</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/7842473532114375349'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/7842473532114375349'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html?showComment=1236217980000#c7842473532114375349' title=''/><author><name>Matthew Landis</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01913278950823273657</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ORlp3tVHPQY/SZi-2BCS_4I/AAAAAAAAAEs/zROuteVffYM/S220/l_55b898221b4f402ab32ac0aa6970792a.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2200483675948988153' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2200483675948988153' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1091123171"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 04, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4428293186016363580</id><published>2009-03-04T17:20:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-03-04T17:20:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The problem with the oxo snoots and their automati...</title><summary type='text'>The problem with the oxo snoots and their automatic entightlement - regardless of ability - to occupy positions created to maintain the status quo of official British or rather the culture in a (united) Kingdom; is that it is and has been a production line since the first Tudor courtiers who began the modern English tradition,  began imitating the Graeco-Roman writers 2000 miles distant and a </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/4428293186016363580'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/4428293186016363580'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html?showComment=1236205200000#c4428293186016363580' title=''/><author><name>Background Artist</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15137576329670368944</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='27' height='32' src='http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n244/scalljah/meblue.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2200483675948988153' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2200483675948988153' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1154523763"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 04, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7588818058738787124</id><published>2009-03-04T16:57:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-03-04T16:57:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ian,I don&#39;t know what you mean by &quot;sham histories....</title><summary type='text'>Ian,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I don&#39;t know what you mean by &quot;sham histories.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The Poetry Revival was a long time ago. I&#39;m talking about the younger UK avant set. A number of them hold Language poetry in marked disregard. In a poet-critic like Sutherland, this can rise to high, intelligent contempt.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Working out of Prynne and Raworth, some of these poets (Bonney, Atkins, Critchley, Katko, the </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/7588818058738787124'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/7588818058738787124'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html?showComment=1236203820000#c7588818058738787124' title=''/><author><name>Kent Johnson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15233688630151467658</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2200483675948988153' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2200483675948988153' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-901447242"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 04, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4849542339361160338</id><published>2009-03-04T16:42:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-03-04T16:42:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Sebastian Horsley. Now, there&#39;s a great British po...</title><summary type='text'>Sebastian Horsley. Now, there&#39;s a great British poet.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/4849542339361160338'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/4849542339361160338'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html?showComment=1236202920000#c4849542339361160338' title=''/><author><name>Steven Trull</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12568485477185375841</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2200483675948988153' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2200483675948988153' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-860282443"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 04, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3050446749220827649</id><published>2009-03-04T15:32:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-03-04T15:32:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The British Poetry Revival (reflected in Alan&#39;s wo...</title><summary type='text'>The British Poetry Revival (reflected in Alan&#39;s wonderful list here) was the beginnings of a functional path for a British poet that didn&#39;t involve getting the hell out or going to seed.  The cooperation between them and Langpo should be noted in light of Kent Johnson&#39;s sham histories.  In Ireland, the official culture may be less snobby which is a sort of trap, and it doesn&#39;t seem to have an </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/3050446749220827649'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/3050446749220827649'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html?showComment=1236198720000#c3050446749220827649' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2200483675948988153' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2200483675948988153' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 04, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7307509229456919348</id><published>2009-03-04T14:43:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-03-04T14:43:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Unless I&#39;m deluded, Motion was instrumental in hus...</title><summary type='text'>Unless I&#39;m deluded, Motion was instrumental in husbanding Larkin&#39;s posthumous reputation.  His literary executor, I believe.  So his credentials are very visible and official.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;Official&quot; British poetry has been stuck in a sort of &quot;Plath/Confessionalist&quot; rut for a long time.  It used to be that the Brits were master craftsmen, but with little or nothing to &quot;say.&quot;  But they went head over </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/7307509229456919348'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/7307509229456919348'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html?showComment=1236195780000#c7307509229456919348' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2200483675948988153' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2200483675948988153' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 04, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1319870531964689883</id><published>2009-03-04T14:18:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-03-04T14:18:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Well this is just another testament to the marketi...</title><summary type='text'>Well this is just another testament to the marketing power of Faber &amp;amp; Faber. It seems to me highly significant that while Faber, Bloodaxe and Carcanet seem to dominate the review spaces in the print version of The Guardian (for example), the online version has reviews by Billy Mills that focus on an entirely different readership (and sensibility). Personally I think that the soon-to-be-ex </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/1319870531964689883'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/1319870531964689883'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html?showComment=1236194280000#c1319870531964689883' title=''/><author><name>Laurie Duggan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16324479044544427139</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_qbwtzGB7dfI/R8wFIuHSSgI/AAAAAAAAAA8/53laOfxFP4Q/S220/2008+Canterbury+Bus+Station.JPG'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2200483675948988153' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2200483675948988153' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1834732564"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 04, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-9050645969994814443</id><published>2009-03-04T13:55:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-03-04T13:55:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>PD,It&#39;s a two-stanza poem. There&#39;s nothing else to...</title><summary type='text'>PD,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It&#39;s a two-stanza poem. There&#39;s nothing else to rescue it than what you see here.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/9050645969994814443'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/9050645969994814443'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html?showComment=1236192900000#c9050645969994814443' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/silliman/silliman2a.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2200483675948988153' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2200483675948988153' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 04, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8488473626123024595</id><published>2009-03-04T12:58:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-03-04T12:58:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Dear Ron, Better be careful, I advise, about even ...</title><summary type='text'>Dear Ron, &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Better be careful, I advise, about even suggesting -- as you do in the final paragraph -- that &quot;one&quot; could ever even think about arguing that one book by one poet somehow reflects an entire nation of people.  Such an argument would be reductive and ridiculous. I reject it.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/8488473626123024595'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/8488473626123024595'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html?showComment=1236189480000#c8488473626123024595' title=''/><author><name>Steven Fama</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13733977161680651117</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2200483675948988153' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2200483675948988153' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-862679579"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 04, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4430591684382807992</id><published>2009-03-04T11:14:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-03-04T11:14:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>hey SteveI been calling &#39;them&#39; here  Credentialist...</title><summary type='text'>hey Steve&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I been calling &#39;them&#39; here  Credentialists&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;they teach the kiddies how to get their own credentials via Powetry 101  then the students &quot;teach&quot; younger studentas haow to get their own credentials..&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;and how to spel correctly every frickin word...&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;no sign of an humor anywhere  I guess we got Ezra to thank for THAT!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;some stoggy tradition, eh?&lt;BR/&gt;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/4430591684382807992'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/4430591684382807992'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html?showComment=1236183240000#c4430591684382807992' title=''/><author><name>Ed Baker</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11285310130024785775</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_SpwtdDR0utk/R3Owpv1OTyI/AAAAAAAAAAM/5uapZyaJmtY/S220/Ed++by+Evie+Baker'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2200483675948988153' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2200483675948988153' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-771816173"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 04, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1703785668079971655</id><published>2009-03-04T10:16:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-03-04T10:16:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I&#39;m really intrigued by the excerpt from Mythology...</title><summary type='text'>I&#39;m really intrigued by the excerpt from &lt;I&gt;Mythology&lt;/I&gt;  and your analysis. Although I think it&#39;s conceivable that both &quot;beside the river&quot; and &quot;swerving underground&quot; could be adjectival phrases modifying &quot;the future,&quot; the sentence really makes no sense when you consider the phrase &quot;snapping at your heels.&quot; You, snapping at your heels? I think it would at least make sense if it were &quot;the future </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/1703785668079971655'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/1703785668079971655'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html?showComment=1236179760000#c1703785668079971655' title=''/><author><name>pd</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00985802485996146079</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2200483675948988153' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2200483675948988153' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-765084016"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 04, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4791215694005776048</id><published>2009-03-04T10:05:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-03-04T10:05:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Chicago Review had a special issue on new British ...</title><summary type='text'>Chicago Review had a special issue on new British poetry about a year and half ago, with focus on Andrea Brady, Chris Goode, Peter Manson, and Keston Sutherland, and an introductory overview of poetic politics in the UK by Sam Ladkin and Robin Purves.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In addition, there are critical commentaries on the four poets by John Wilkinson, Jeremy Noel-Tod, Sam Ladkin, Simon Jarvis, &amp;amp;  Matt </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/4791215694005776048'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/4791215694005776048'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html?showComment=1236179100000#c4791215694005776048' title=''/><author><name>Kent Johnson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15233688630151467658</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2200483675948988153' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2200483675948988153' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-901447242"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 04, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7095366003429001517</id><published>2009-03-04T08:12:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-03-04T08:12:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Now, I am completely willing to be corrected here ...</title><summary type='text'>Now, I am completely willing to be corrected here by any ardent devotees to Motion&#39;s poetry, but the only answers that I can find to what the values of the &quot;Official Verse Culture&quot; (lets keep that term for now)in Britain might be, are: careerism, competitiveness, and the maintenance of an established social hierarchy. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The poems quoted above are vehicles for self promotion. This </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/7095366003429001517'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/7095366003429001517'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html?showComment=1236172320000#c7095366003429001517' title=''/><author><name>The Editors</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09476863109510022756</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2200483675948988153' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2200483675948988153' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1289270509"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 04, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2410680902431079428</id><published>2009-03-04T06:51:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-03-04T06:51:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>It&#39;s possible I suppose that he&#39;s referring to a h...</title><summary type='text'>It&#39;s possible I suppose that he&#39;s referring to a hover-mower. But you wouldn&#39;t have &#39;trim stripes&#39; and &#39;hovver-sweeps&#39; unless you used two different mowers. Why would you do that? The feeling I get is that of a child who&#39;s making up a story on the spot and getting the details all wrong, so you quickly realise that this never actually happened and they&#39;re telling you for some other reason than to </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/2410680902431079428'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/2410680902431079428'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html?showComment=1236167460000#c2410680902431079428' title=''/><author><name>alan hay</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/10713756667037077168</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2200483675948988153' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2200483675948988153' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-567216581"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 04, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7243769199265838734</id><published>2009-03-04T04:31:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-03-04T04:31:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Whilst taking your point, he means &quot;hovver.&quot; It&#39;s ...</title><summary type='text'>Whilst taking your point, he means &quot;hovver.&quot; It&#39;s a UK thing. It refers to a hover mower like a Flymo, and you sometimes come across it spelt that way in England after an ad campaign in the 80&#39;s, I think, with the slogan (of a Flymo lawnmower) &quot;It&#39;s a lot less bovver than a hovver.&quot; AdSpeak. Not a profund point, but a footnote on a footnote.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/7243769199265838734'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2200483675948988153/comments/default/7243769199265838734'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html?showComment=1236159060000#c7243769199265838734' title=''/><author><name>Bishop Alan Wilson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13879516755776951638</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='30' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ZItgL_ILBMc/SWiFMd8pOkI/AAAAAAAAGE0/OCitcO5x71Y/S220/Daddypic.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/question-posed-by-andrew-motions-mower.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2200483675948988153' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2200483675948988153' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-2040315370"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 04, 2009"/></entry></feed>