<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post2259347995828064998..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>23</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6801860175757496750</id><published>2007-10-13T17:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-13T17:00:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Is the panda then a Buddhist protester, or is the ...</title><summary type='text'>Is the panda then a Buddhist protester, or is the panda&#39;s presence implicitly an endorsement of Ron&#39;s purported Maoism.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The Bamboo Curtain.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Are pandas as gentle as the Dalai Lama?  Are pandas Buddhist?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I feel that the ones over here would be better off as Lutheran Surrealists.  Perhaps we shall attempt to make some converts.  We are an ambiguous movement, perhaps too </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/6801860175757496750'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/6801860175757496750'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html?showComment=1192309200000#c6801860175757496750' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2259347995828064998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2259347995828064998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 13, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1099596213522411819</id><published>2007-10-13T00:35:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-13T00:35:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>What, the panda didn’t even show up, then! ;)</title><summary type='text'>What, the panda didn’t even show up, then!&lt;BR/&gt; ;)</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/1099596213522411819'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/1099596213522411819'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html?showComment=1192250100000#c1099596213522411819' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2259347995828064998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2259347995828064998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 13, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5088581556428691449</id><published>2007-10-12T18:33:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-12T18:33:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>All poems are written with the page in mind--if yo...</title><summary type='text'>All poems are written with the page in mind--if you&#39;re referring to the &quot;spatial&quot; poem, that form is too young to have found itself, orally, yet.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/5088581556428691449'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/5088581556428691449'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html?showComment=1192228380000#c5088581556428691449' title=''/><author><name>Max</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04015402378429631819</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2259347995828064998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2259347995828064998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1354347098"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 12, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5320550767633831682</id><published>2007-10-12T16:15:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-12T16:15:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ian, You may be confused, I think.  I was not at t...</title><summary type='text'>Ian, &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You may be confused, I think.  I was not at the Ashland reading, which was the one attended by the panda.  I was struck by the coincidence (?) of a panda appearing at a reading of Ron, and the repeated instances of the word &quot;panda&quot; in &lt;I&gt;Tjanting&lt;/I&gt;, so I commented on that. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I was at the Ron&#39;s reading at Mills College in Oakland (which took place the night before the </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/5320550767633831682'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/5320550767633831682'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html?showComment=1192220100000#c5320550767633831682' title=''/><author><name>Steven Fama</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13733977161680651117</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2259347995828064998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2259347995828064998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-862679579"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 12, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3155997963002496488</id><published>2007-10-12T14:08:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-12T14:08:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Max,What about poems that are written more with th...</title><summary type='text'>Max,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;What about poems that are written more with the page in mind? Do you not like any of those, or would you revise your claim to include the phrase &quot;weaker oral poem?&quot; (or something less clunky)</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/3155997963002496488'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/3155997963002496488'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html?showComment=1192212480000#c3155997963002496488' title=''/><author><name>Andy Gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04367834692026653431</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://a622.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/75/l_7d53087e7ae6bdc246fcc42f2064909d.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2259347995828064998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2259347995828064998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1668048852"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 12, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2307071847202465820</id><published>2007-10-11T13:25:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-11T13:25:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>My fortune cookie today was probably intended for ...</title><summary type='text'>My fortune cookie today was probably intended for Ron: ‘Grey Davis will applaud your poetry in a panda suit.’&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Yes, to show up in a panda suit at a Conrad reading is to will your annihilation.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I’m surprised that the panda and Steven Fama were in the same room and Steven has no ‘constructive criticism’ for it.  “I think it was a good idea, but the proportions were way off.  </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/2307071847202465820'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/2307071847202465820'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html?showComment=1192123500000#c2307071847202465820' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2259347995828064998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2259347995828064998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 11, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1483275758714409762</id><published>2007-10-11T01:37:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-11T01:37:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>A poem that doesn&#39;t survive when read aloud is pro...</title><summary type='text'>A poem that doesn&#39;t survive when read aloud is probably a weaker poem. Things haven&#39;t changed that much.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/1483275758714409762'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/1483275758714409762'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html?showComment=1192081020000#c1483275758714409762' title=''/><author><name>Max</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04015402378429631819</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2259347995828064998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2259347995828064998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1354347098"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 11, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5547023863681169177</id><published>2007-10-10T22:36:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-10T22:36:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>CAConrad had a good post on pandas, a kind of anti...</title><summary type='text'>CAConrad had a good post on pandas, a kind of anti-anti- politically incorrect repudiation of the idolization of wild &quot;pets&quot; for liberal consumption.  Probably the best thing of his I&#39;ve read.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;China wants to subjugate Thibet, and turn it into a huge shopping center for automatons.  I guess we can say that without fear of reprisal from the moderator(s).</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/5547023863681169177'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/5547023863681169177'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html?showComment=1192070160000#c5547023863681169177' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2259347995828064998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2259347995828064998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 10, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6021792159840603677</id><published>2007-10-10T19:01:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-10T19:01:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>95 % 0f what is left of the pandas live  and alway...</title><summary type='text'>95 % 0f what is left of the pandas live  and always hav in Tibet..&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;and as the Chinese have stollen Tibet&lt;BR/&gt;so with the pandas..&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;who are rented out tom the USA (zoos) to sell coffee mugs with &quot;pandas&quot; on them&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;made in China&quot;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/6021792159840603677'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/6021792159840603677'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html?showComment=1192057260000#c6021792159840603677' title=''/><author><name>Ed</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11285310130024785775</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2259347995828064998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2259347995828064998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-771816173"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 10, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1112711214352389742</id><published>2007-10-10T17:04:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-10T17:04:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Come on, tortilla.  There&#39;s no such thing as a gen...</title><summary type='text'>Come on, tortilla.  There&#39;s no such thing as a generic &quot;audience.&quot;  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Audience response can mean almost anything, depending on those attending, the circumstance, the occasion, the poet, and the work.  The best response any writer can hope for is a single individual poring over the work, considering, weighing, wondering.  Audiences are notoriously fickle, impatient, and other-directed.  &lt;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/1112711214352389742'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/1112711214352389742'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html?showComment=1192050240000#c1112711214352389742' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2259347995828064998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2259347995828064998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 10, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6674079469795485663</id><published>2007-10-10T09:03:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-10T09:03:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I was not at the reading, but once again I feel li...</title><summary type='text'>I was not at the reading, but once again I feel like one of the unwashed or uneducated and unwashed as I am not really catching the humor. Babies are fleshy, it&#39;s true, and one shouldn&#39;t eat them, I suppose we can agree on that. But to me I find that audiences are often responding to what I would call &#39;Elvis&#39; humor – the very mention of a semi-comic character or scenario primes the pump for </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/6674079469795485663'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/6674079469795485663'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html?showComment=1192021380000#c6674079469795485663' title=''/><author><name>Tortilla ex Machina</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11240795400994592569</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2259347995828064998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2259347995828064998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1599458885"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 10, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5868589600888506143</id><published>2007-10-09T21:59:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-09T21:59:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>That photo is like every poetry reading I&#39;ve ever ...</title><summary type='text'>That photo is like every poetry reading I&#39;ve ever been to, except replace the panda with a schizophrenic homeless guy in a little black dress.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;I&gt;dzluvn&lt;/I&gt;:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;What a trucker gives a lot lizard.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/5868589600888506143'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/5868589600888506143'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html?showComment=1191981540000#c5868589600888506143' title=''/><author><name>W. Australopithecus</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01493419010195823747</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='20' height='32' src='http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f377/australopithecus1/blogopithecus.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2259347995828064998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2259347995828064998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-801818652"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 09, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8329369238517747095</id><published>2007-10-09T15:15:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-09T15:15:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>As for the panda, I repeat my observation first sh...</title><summary type='text'>As for the panda, I repeat my observation first shared in the comment box a few days ago:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;panda&quot; shows up on pages 12, 20, 36, 82, and 137 (at least, there may be others) in &lt;I&gt;Tjanting&lt;/I&gt; (The Figures, 1981).</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/8329369238517747095'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/8329369238517747095'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html?showComment=1191957300000#c8329369238517747095' title=''/><author><name>Steven Fama</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13733977161680651117</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2259347995828064998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2259347995828064998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-862679579"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 09, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3676546501857007324</id><published>2007-10-09T15:03:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-09T15:03:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The panda is probably a reference to Ron&#39;s purport...</title><summary type='text'>The panda is probably a reference to Ron&#39;s purported Maoism, since it is from Red China.  A pretty sly dig, if you ask me.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/3676546501857007324'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/3676546501857007324'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html?showComment=1191956580000#c3676546501857007324' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2259347995828064998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2259347995828064998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 09, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2537636547885910171</id><published>2007-10-09T14:18:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-09T14:18:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>How do you feel about your audience being hyper co...</title><summary type='text'>How do you feel about your audience being hyper conscious  of the fact that you are hyper conscious of whether or not they laugh?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/2537636547885910171'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/2537636547885910171'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html?showComment=1191953880000#c2537636547885910171' title=''/><author><name>Valerie Silliman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03716498736157684730</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2259347995828064998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2259347995828064998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-643752735"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 09, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4858868737369717795</id><published>2007-10-09T13:42:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-09T13:42:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I&#39;ll take the curmudgeonly position once more and ...</title><summary type='text'>I&#39;ll take the curmudgeonly position once more and suggest that imputing cause and effect to audience responses is a fairly complex and slippery affair.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Humor, per se, isn&#39;t a very good measure of the effect of a work of writing.  People can be made to laugh by comedians utterly without redeeming literary virtues.  I can think offhand of a dozen professional comedians who invariably get </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/4858868737369717795'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/4858868737369717795'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html?showComment=1191951720000#c4858868737369717795' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2259347995828064998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2259347995828064998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 09, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3362209326736357390</id><published>2007-10-09T13:37:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-09T13:37:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I was talking about this, more or less, with Lou a...</title><summary type='text'>I was talking about this, more or less, with Lou and Peter Berryman the other night, after their concert to celebrate 30 years of full-time performance. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It seems like it&#39;s only with regard to art that humor and seriousness are seen as mutually exclusive. Laughter means lightness (&quot;l-i-t-e&quot;), or even dismissal. That the listener/viewer is better than the thing laughed at, perhaps. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/3362209326736357390'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/3362209326736357390'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html?showComment=1191951420000#c3362209326736357390' title=''/><author><name>Andy Gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04367834692026653431</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://a622.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/75/l_7d53087e7ae6bdc246fcc42f2064909d.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2259347995828064998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2259347995828064998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1668048852"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 09, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4881496837882430037</id><published>2007-10-09T13:07:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-09T13:07:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The kind of &quot;knowing&quot;, self-congratulatory laughte...</title><summary type='text'>The kind of &quot;knowing&quot;, self-congratulatory laughter you get at poetry readings is often not unrelated to the nervous/smug snickering encountered at the public viewing of any film made before say 1980--Rock Hudson was gay! titter titter, its poetry but its funny too hyuck!... It also encourages poets to indicate to listeners what they (often mistakenly) think are their &quot;good lines&quot;, so that </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/4881496837882430037'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/4881496837882430037'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html?showComment=1191949620000#c4881496837882430037' title=''/><author><name>Peter</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12003245243758973391</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://www.moominvoices.com/pictures/muumi_lehdisto.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2259347995828064998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2259347995828064998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-653182069"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 09, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5586650771231346697</id><published>2007-10-09T13:05:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-09T13:05:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>i am a poet and i often do not pick up on the joke...</title><summary type='text'>i am a poet and i often do not pick up on the jokes all the other reindeer are laughing at at poetry readings. but i would always, always laugh at any joke that has to do with baby-eating. always.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/5586650771231346697'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/5586650771231346697'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html?showComment=1191949500000#c5586650771231346697' title=''/><author><name>Logan Ryan Smith</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03267444929810505425</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1238/677904498_38f740fd93.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2259347995828064998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2259347995828064998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-790052993"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 09, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7940155842433547456</id><published>2007-10-09T12:19:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-09T12:19:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>If a solitary Panda enters a bar and sees a priest...</title><summary type='text'>If a solitary Panda enters a bar and sees a priest, a rabbi, and Richard M. Daley all drinking through butterfly straws would John Ashbery still be MTV&#39;s poet laureate? Perhaps. But it is this thunderous perhaps that keeps me up all night.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/7940155842433547456'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/7940155842433547456'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html?showComment=1191946740000#c7940155842433547456' title=''/><author><name>Larry Sawyer</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/18209176066752392711</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='19' height='32' src='http://www.milkmag.org/sawyerz.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2259347995828064998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2259347995828064998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-633681119"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 09, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4555453179285739055</id><published>2007-10-09T12:04:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-09T12:04:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron, you write: &quot;The audience at Mills was perfect...</title><summary type='text'>Ron, you write: &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;The audience at Mills was perfect, picking up on the humor from the very first line.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I hope your not being literal here. First, I was in the audience, and I assure you, I ain&#39;t perfect. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And I don&#39;t remember hearing any evidence of funny bones being tickled by the first line of &lt;I&gt;Ketjak&lt;/I&gt;.  For all its  energy, &quot;Revolving door&quot; can&#39;t really be </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/4555453179285739055'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/4555453179285739055'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html?showComment=1191945840000#c4555453179285739055' title=''/><author><name>Steven Fama</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13733977161680651117</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2259347995828064998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2259347995828064998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-862679579"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 09, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6095845227561804071</id><published>2007-10-09T10:50:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-09T10:50:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Laughter such as this does indeed occur. But if a ...</title><summary type='text'>Laughter such as this does indeed occur. But if a Panda laughs in the woods would anyone really hear it?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/6095845227561804071'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/6095845227561804071'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html?showComment=1191941400000#c6095845227561804071' title=''/><author><name>Larry Sawyer</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/18209176066752392711</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='19' height='32' src='http://www.milkmag.org/sawyerz.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2259347995828064998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2259347995828064998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-633681119"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 09, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4567406951353688713</id><published>2007-10-09T09:24:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-09T09:24:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Yeah, well...I&#39;m waiting for the panda&#39;s reading r...</title><summary type='text'>Yeah, well...I&#39;m waiting for the panda&#39;s reading report. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;xojimmy</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/4567406951353688713'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/2259347995828064998/comments/default/4567406951353688713'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html?showComment=1191936240000#c4567406951353688713' title=''/><author><name>Jim Behrle</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09200981805065586529</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-tests-of-reading-or-perhaps-i.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2259347995828064998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/2259347995828064998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1627449886"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 09, 2007"/></entry></feed>