<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post5498227389817155567..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5498227389817155567/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/bad-girl-in-arts-is-not-new-but-it-has.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>10</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3597520731990546123</id><published>2008-07-02T13:40:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-07-02T13:40:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Now you make sense to me, Kent.</title><summary type='text'>Now you make sense to me, Kent.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5498227389817155567/comments/default/3597520731990546123'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5498227389817155567/comments/default/3597520731990546123'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/bad-girl-in-arts-is-not-new-but-it-has.html?showComment=1215020400000#c3597520731990546123' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/bad-girl-in-arts-is-not-new-but-it-has.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5498227389817155567' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5498227389817155567' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="July 02, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6195918689177976987</id><published>2008-07-01T21:32:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-07-01T21:32:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by the author.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5498227389817155567/comments/default/6195918689177976987'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5498227389817155567/comments/default/6195918689177976987'/><author><name>Kirk Johnson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12714098498354846094</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/bad-girl-in-arts-is-not-new-but-it-has.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5498227389817155567' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5498227389817155567' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-458221395"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="July 01, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3152704976967826535</id><published>2008-07-01T13:33:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-07-01T13:33:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Being bad probably has a drawback seen in both the...</title><summary type='text'>Being bad probably has a drawback seen in both the men and the women who indulge in it.  The children don&#39;t survive.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;If you think of the top four Beats: Burroughs&#39; kid is dead, Ginsberg never had a child, Corso&#39;s kids never really knew their dad (at Naropa he&#39;d walk around with one of them called Max drinking wine from a baby bottle, claiming that the child had descended from the gods,</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5498227389817155567/comments/default/3152704976967826535'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5498227389817155567/comments/default/3152704976967826535'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/bad-girl-in-arts-is-not-new-but-it-has.html?showComment=1214933580000#c3152704976967826535' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/bad-girl-in-arts-is-not-new-but-it-has.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5498227389817155567' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5498227389817155567' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="July 01, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2701533319607706999</id><published>2008-07-01T04:15:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-07-01T04:15:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The first occurrence of the dots I’m aware of is f...</title><summary type='text'>The first occurrence of the dots I’m aware of is fairly recent: “.....................................................................rue Blue,” the forth poem of the series “So the Ants Made It to the Cat Food” in Anselm Hollo’s 2007 Guests of Space (p.47).&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;One of the appeals of the dots is that they make it easier to use indentations in Blogger.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5498227389817155567/comments/default/2701533319607706999'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5498227389817155567/comments/default/2701533319607706999'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/bad-girl-in-arts-is-not-new-but-it-has.html?showComment=1214900100000#c2701533319607706999' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/bad-girl-in-arts-is-not-new-but-it-has.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5498227389817155567' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5498227389817155567' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="July 01, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7151045499898647053</id><published>2008-07-01T02:12:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-07-01T02:12:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I liked Kathy. She never seemed very bad when she&#39;...</title><summary type='text'>I liked Kathy. She never seemed very bad when she&#39;d make me peanut-butter sandwiches and strawberry banana smoothies. However, she knew who her enemies were. And maybe I&#39;m just dumb, but she seemed to write smarter, you know, more like a terrorist than someone trying to be cute. I mean, there are plenty of examples of Kathy writing like a baby, using a cute baby voice, etc. But, when she did it, </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5498227389817155567/comments/default/7151045499898647053'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5498227389817155567/comments/default/7151045499898647053'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/bad-girl-in-arts-is-not-new-but-it-has.html?showComment=1214892720000#c7151045499898647053' title=''/><author><name>Steven Trull</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12568485477185375841</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/bad-girl-in-arts-is-not-new-but-it-has.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5498227389817155567' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5498227389817155567' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-860282443"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="July 01, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7234275420995427110</id><published>2008-06-30T19:33:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-30T19:33:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Feel compelled to add.--not sure why one would wan...</title><summary type='text'>Feel compelled to add.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;--not sure why one would want to conflate the persona with the author here. Haven&#39;t read the book yet (tho I&#39;m looking forward to it now.) Does  the text do something specific (present itself as autobiography/ memoir) to suggest that one should associate the persona with the author? Tho even then one wouldn&#39;t usually take that suggestion at face value. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;-</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5498227389817155567/comments/default/7234275420995427110'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5498227389817155567/comments/default/7234275420995427110'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/bad-girl-in-arts-is-not-new-but-it-has.html?showComment=1214868780000#c7234275420995427110' title=''/><author><name>Marie</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03827251319458619417</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/bad-girl-in-arts-is-not-new-but-it-has.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5498227389817155567' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5498227389817155567' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-606970048"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 30, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-13622500556291891</id><published>2008-06-30T17:33:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-30T17:33:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I wonder why filthification is considered progress...</title><summary type='text'>I wonder why filthification is considered progressive?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I don&#39;t know what 7 words Carlin had in mind for instance as constituting progress if they were legalized, but that whole aspect of Lenny Bruce -- is it really progress.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;As I drive on the highway I notice cars with the F word on the bumper sticker. Is this progress? My kids have to read it. Someone stenciled the word all </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5498227389817155567/comments/default/13622500556291891'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5498227389817155567/comments/default/13622500556291891'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/bad-girl-in-arts-is-not-new-but-it-has.html?showComment=1214861580000#c13622500556291891' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/bad-girl-in-arts-is-not-new-but-it-has.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5498227389817155567' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5498227389817155567' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 30, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3984897139063369690</id><published>2008-06-30T16:01:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-30T16:01:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>This book starts out so strong. &quot;Like bleeding fro...</title><summary type='text'>This book starts out so strong. &quot;Like bleeding from your anus in the snow.&quot; But I absolutely agree, and neither one of us is original, that as the text makes transitions it becomes weaker. Her first work Zirconia stayed consistently persuasive but never reached the maximum level that Minnis reaches (esp. in the Prefaces) in this work. She is a poet I am always looking out for. If these antecedent</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5498227389817155567/comments/default/3984897139063369690'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5498227389817155567/comments/default/3984897139063369690'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/bad-girl-in-arts-is-not-new-but-it-has.html?showComment=1214856060000#c3984897139063369690' title=''/><author><name>LM Rivera</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03593189117151224128</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='21' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_KGRM4WkDKnc/SDp8tUFzFXI/AAAAAAAAAWQ/ogJDCbqJN8c/S220/hyena+leg.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/bad-girl-in-arts-is-not-new-but-it-has.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5498227389817155567' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5498227389817155567' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1947898231"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 30, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1945268214615329625</id><published>2008-06-30T15:45:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-30T15:45:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron--it’s nice to be mentioned at all in your blog...</title><summary type='text'>Ron--it’s nice to be mentioned at all in your blog, as my writing in general seems to exist outside the radar of this site.  However, I don’t feel comfortable being marched in as an example of what a younger woman writer is lacking.  Though Minnis’ title invites the whole bad girl discussion, I don’t feel that discussing writing that engages female sexuality and the body in terms of the bad girl </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5498227389817155567/comments/default/1945268214615329625'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5498227389817155567/comments/default/1945268214615329625'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/bad-girl-in-arts-is-not-new-but-it-has.html?showComment=1214855100000#c1945268214615329625' title=''/><author><name>Dodie</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12774166779080348192</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/bad-girl-in-arts-is-not-new-but-it-has.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5498227389817155567' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5498227389817155567' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1967077426"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 30, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1670281190805001498</id><published>2008-06-30T12:46:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-30T12:46:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I disagree with your footnote definition of &quot;bad g...</title><summary type='text'>I disagree with your footnote definition of &quot;bad girls&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;a sense of shame, some concept of all this being somehow dirty.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I think that&#39;s what the Other&lt;BR/&gt;attributes to the BadGirl&lt;BR/&gt;real BadGrrls&lt;BR/&gt;have no sense of shame&lt;BR/&gt;about themselves . . .&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I prefer the term &lt;B&gt;unruly woman&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;myself&lt;BR/&gt;which gets around the whole &quot;bad&quot; business</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5498227389817155567/comments/default/1670281190805001498'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5498227389817155567/comments/default/1670281190805001498'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/bad-girl-in-arts-is-not-new-but-it-has.html?showComment=1214844360000#c1670281190805001498' title=''/><author><name>suzanne</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/18396449966859846043</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://static.flickr.com/38/91793699_f40f9853a2_m.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/bad-girl-in-arts-is-not-new-but-it-has.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5498227389817155567' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5498227389817155567' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-769341666"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 30, 2008"/></entry></feed>