<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post649627277722159970..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>19</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3466473387254189181</id><published>2007-06-17T20:25:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-06-17T20:25:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>avant, post avant, it all seems trite given the st...</title><summary type='text'>avant, post avant, it all seems trite given the state of things. it should really be about/ &quot; little stabs done by little stabbers&quot;. all of these supposed &quot;new&quot; poets/writers seem to be nothing more than pst av. frauds/ gimmick shifters/self-promoters.Which in and of itself isn&#39;t a bad thing. But the content of this &quot;new&quot; work is so tired and unfunny. If this were &#39;68 or even &#39;78 we would be </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/3466473387254189181'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/3466473387254189181'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html?showComment=1182126300000#c3466473387254189181' title=''/><author><name>olgastamata</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04903202618195858141</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-649627277722159970' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/649627277722159970' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1991341245"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 17, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-746396196672036931</id><published>2007-06-17T05:36:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-06-17T05:36:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Hey, good to see someone else recognising that if ...</title><summary type='text'>Hey, good to see someone else recognising that if there&#39;s a SoQ the corollary follows that there must be an opposite SoN, or what I call SoND (School of Noisy, Dude!). Perhaps someone should propose a third school, a fusion of both called SoNQ, which rhymes with &#39;honk&#39;, or just SoD (School of...Duh!).</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/746396196672036931'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/746396196672036931'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html?showComment=1182072960000#c746396196672036931' title=''/><author><name>Mark Granier</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09899629187771913398</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='23' src='http://static.flickr.com/35/125078083_0408f03b6f_m.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-649627277722159970' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/649627277722159970' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-837377571"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 17, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7262070033066633848</id><published>2007-06-17T02:10:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-06-17T02:10:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>A guy walks into a literary agent&#39;s office and say...</title><summary type='text'>A guy walks into a literary agent&#39;s office and says, &quot;I write poetry.&quot;  The literary agent says, &quot;I don&#39;t sign poets.  Poetry doesn&#39;t sell, and poets, they&#39;re all drunk psychotics rambling nonsense no one wants to read anyway.&quot;  And the guy says, &quot;hey wait, we&#39;re a little different.&quot;  So the guy swings open the door wide and  in come a line of poets.  But they don&#39;t look like poets eactly.  XJ </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/7262070033066633848'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/7262070033066633848'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html?showComment=1182060600000#c7262070033066633848' title=''/><author><name>Patrick</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04539777192807636576</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://indyweek.com/binary/e50b7a7e/ae-16730.jpeg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-649627277722159970' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/649627277722159970' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-576327530"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 17, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2800306759607802690</id><published>2007-06-16T21:25:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-06-16T21:25:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>just another SOQ-hack, actually, that&#39;s me . . .i ...</title><summary type='text'>just another SOQ-hack, actually, that&#39;s me . . .&lt;BR/&gt;i tried to get with the School of Noisiness back in Chicago &#39;73-&#39;75, i tried to hang with Ted B at the weekly readings but lacked the mod it takes . . . i just didn&#39;t have it, never did, never will . . . please let me fade into obliv on my own blahblog, please don&#39;t mention my name here!</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/2800306759607802690'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/2800306759607802690'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html?showComment=1182043500000#c2800306759607802690' title=''/><author><name>William_Knott</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/10848525067425082815</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-649627277722159970' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/649627277722159970' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1665046687"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 16, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6081340952241578329</id><published>2007-06-16T13:54:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-06-16T13:54:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by the author.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/6081340952241578329'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/6081340952241578329'/><author><name>Mark Granier</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09899629187771913398</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='23' src='http://static.flickr.com/35/125078083_0408f03b6f_m.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-649627277722159970' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/649627277722159970' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-837377571"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 16, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3027691596980283642</id><published>2007-06-16T13:19:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-06-16T13:19:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I think that might be called &quot;refined irony,&quot; Jona...</title><summary type='text'>I think that might be called &quot;refined irony,&quot; Jonathan.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/3027691596980283642'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/3027691596980283642'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html?showComment=1182014340000#c3027691596980283642' title=''/><author><name>Kent Johnson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15233688630151467658</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-649627277722159970' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/649627277722159970' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-901447242"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 16, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3090844265907314244</id><published>2007-06-16T10:46:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-06-16T10:46:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I know Bill Knott embraces this label, school of q...</title><summary type='text'>I know Bill Knott embraces this label, school of quietude.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/3090844265907314244'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/3090844265907314244'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html?showComment=1182005160000#c3090844265907314244' title=''/><author><name>Jonathan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09371893596402673898</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-649627277722159970' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/649627277722159970' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1218785319"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 16, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5105387420669244300</id><published>2007-06-15T16:39:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-06-15T16:39:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;...roughly half of them members of the School of ...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;...roughly half of them members of the School of Quietude (SoQ) (tho they didn’t call it that at the time)...&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Just curious Ron, but are any of your SoQ poets happy to be tagged with this label now, today? Does anyone refer to him/herself as SoQ? As I say, just curious.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/5105387420669244300'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/5105387420669244300'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html?showComment=1181939940000#c5105387420669244300' title=''/><author><name>Mark Granier</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09899629187771913398</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='23' src='http://static.flickr.com/35/125078083_0408f03b6f_m.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-649627277722159970' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/649627277722159970' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-837377571"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 15, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-258281478739594864</id><published>2007-06-15T00:47:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-06-15T00:47:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by the author.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/258281478739594864'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/258281478739594864'/><author><name>Daniel Nester</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12135073788017492685</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='28' src='http://danielnester.com/photos/danhead3.JPG'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-649627277722159970' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/649627277722159970' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-482907402"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 15, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1985509455773968525</id><published>2007-06-14T23:13:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-06-14T23:13:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Can we just say it: &#39;SoQ&#39; vs &#39;experimental&#39; or &#39;po...</title><summary type='text'>Can we just say it: &#39;SoQ&#39; vs &#39;experimental&#39; or &#39;post-experimental&#39; simply doesn&#39;t work.  These distinctions are meaningless to the poems themselves.  They—the poems—either surprise or they don’t.  Surprise by nature is predicated on structure, traditional or otherwise.  The ‘cultural’ distinctions of these poets, or there ‘positions’ seem to be needlessly political arguments gone terrible astray </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/1985509455773968525'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/1985509455773968525'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html?showComment=1181877180000#c1985509455773968525' title=''/><author><name>Matthew Guenette</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06901074740673802260</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-649627277722159970' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/649627277722159970' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-188382328"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 14, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-764739576818167236</id><published>2007-06-14T17:02:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-06-14T17:02:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The growth of the university system throughout the...</title><summary type='text'>The growth of the university system throughout the 20th Century had much to do with the exponential growth in the numbers of people writing serious poetry.  Circa 1900, there were probably no more than 1000 people in the U.S. writing serious verse.  Polite librarians and doctors and lawyers cranked out occasional doggerel; ladies&#39; clubs and university departments would present stuffy readings and</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/764739576818167236'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/764739576818167236'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html?showComment=1181854920000#c764739576818167236' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-649627277722159970' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/649627277722159970' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 14, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7604820839448936804</id><published>2007-06-14T14:31:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-06-14T14:31:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>These publishing numbers (220 publishing poets the...</title><summary type='text'>These publishing numbers (220 publishing poets then, 10-12 thousand today), and the argument Ron constructs from them, are worth some closer inquiry.  I share Ron’s interest in statistical measurements despite their misleading ways, and I’m glad Ron (just like, on the other side, that Donald Hall essay in Harper’s way back in 1989) uses such numbers to dispel the idea of poetry as currently </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/7604820839448936804'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/7604820839448936804'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html?showComment=1181845860000#c7604820839448936804' title=''/><author><name>Brent Cunningham</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15120606584372602345</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='21' src='http://www.spdbooks.org/photo2.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-649627277722159970' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/649627277722159970' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1935263046"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 14, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1266618439099679216</id><published>2007-06-14T13:55:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-06-14T13:55:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>K. Silem:  I&#39;m with you on this.  E.B. White satir...</title><summary type='text'>K. Silem:  I&#39;m with you on this.  E.B. White satirized the &quot;major poets&quot; gaff way back in the 1930&#39;s.  Major poets my ass.  I think it was Allen Tate who said, on a blurb:  &quot;We&#39;ve gotten into the habit of ranking our poets...but whoever else is supposed to be up there, Justice belongs there too.&quot;  Which is a nice way of getting out of the dilemma.  Stand up and be counted in the fight against </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/1266618439099679216'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/1266618439099679216'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html?showComment=1181843700000#c1266618439099679216' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-649627277722159970' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/649627277722159970' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 14, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3717731952582702069</id><published>2007-06-14T12:38:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-06-14T12:38:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Assuming that the SoQ vs. post-whatever distinctio...</title><summary type='text'>Assuming that the SoQ vs. post-whatever distinction is viable at all, I have to question whether anyone on the SoQ &quot;side&quot; would consider Levine, Powell, and Volkman in any way representative of that side.  Or am I missing your point?  To me, the collection seems clearly conceived as &quot;experimental&quot; all around.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The larger problem here, it seems to me, is the gesture of isolating any </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/3717731952582702069'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/3717731952582702069'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html?showComment=1181839080000#c3717731952582702069' title=''/><author><name>K. Silem Mohammad</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13353259413006470925</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://static.flickr.com/51/160164695_7c06bdbec2_m.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-649627277722159970' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/649627277722159970' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1830147097"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 14, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5863793510666987960</id><published>2007-06-14T11:28:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2007-06-14T11:28:00.001-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Editorial statements made by this book: the presum...</title><summary type='text'>Editorial statements made by this book: the presumed focus on ‘major poets’ rather than more inclusiveness, the statement that ‘hope you enjoyed your century, older poets’ that underscores the chronological symbolism.  I’m not really opposed to he idea of focusing on major poets, but the claim that minor poets have been weeded out for the major poets is one I don’t suppose will stick.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;No</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/5863793510666987960'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/5863793510666987960'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html?showComment=1181834880001#c5863793510666987960' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-649627277722159970' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/649627277722159970' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 14, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7080303109176042761</id><published>2007-06-14T11:28:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-06-14T11:28:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>It&#39;s strange that none of the older anthologies ha...</title><summary type='text'>It&#39;s strange that none of the older anthologies have included Lucy A. Stewart. I think she only had one book out, but was pretty close to Duncan and that crowd. Donald Allen and other works in that era focus so much on men, it seems that they would have jumped at the opportunity for another female poet, no matter how obscure.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/7080303109176042761'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/7080303109176042761'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html?showComment=1181834880000#c7080303109176042761' title=''/><author><name>jimboweb</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00574052482019065333</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-649627277722159970' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/649627277722159970' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1088852031"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 14, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8520152617659632165</id><published>2007-06-14T11:10:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-06-14T11:10:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Linh Dinh indeed.  And Josh Bell should be there, ...</title><summary type='text'>Linh Dinh indeed.  And Josh Bell should be there, too.  Not to mention Olena Davis...&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;A strange 13, it is.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/8520152617659632165'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/8520152617659632165'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html?showComment=1181833800000#c8520152617659632165' title=''/><author><name>Matthew Guenette</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06901074740673802260</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-649627277722159970' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/649627277722159970' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-188382328"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 14, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3529453827501983662</id><published>2007-06-14T10:58:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-06-14T10:58:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>A Controversy of Poets is probably the best anthol...</title><summary type='text'>A Controversy of Poets is probably the best anthology after Allen&#39;s.  I remember, when I first read it, in high school, it had just been published.  My thought was then, given my lack of experience and education, that the traditional poems in it were dull, and the experimental poems were mostly gibberish.  It seemed to me there was no middle ground, a dilemma which I found very unsettling.  I had</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/3529453827501983662'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/3529453827501983662'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html?showComment=1181833080000#c3529453827501983662' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-649627277722159970' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/649627277722159970' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 14, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6575444196971054174</id><published>2007-06-14T10:56:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-06-14T10:56:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Certainly, the idea of &quot;shadings along the contimu...</title><summary type='text'>Certainly, the idea of &quot;shadings along the contimuum of contemporary poetry&quot; does seem artificial and false. And the contrast between School of Quietitude and New American (or Avant or Experimental or whatever) seems just as artificial and ultimately just as false. It seems to me that any critical paradigm to be laid over the vast diversity of contemporary can be, at best, only provisionally </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/6575444196971054174'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/649627277722159970/comments/default/6575444196971054174'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html?showComment=1181832960000#c6575444196971054174' title=''/><author><name>anhaga</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07614935078978354375</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='20' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3534/2468/1600/kleebirds.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/06/in-1965-one-of-most-interesting-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-649627277722159970' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/649627277722159970' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1863831041"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 14, 2007"/></entry></feed>