<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post8595608517396421159..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>48</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1251024714552221604</id><published>2009-04-04T23:59:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-04-04T23:59:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;what percentage of recent MFAs publish in their f...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;what percentage of recent MFAs publish in their first year or two after graduation? Not just books, but anything. The figure is well under 100 percent.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;While I can&#39;t speak for all MFA programs, I can tell you that there were 12 poets in my graduating class - 4 of whom had published at least one poem (one had published a chapbook) BEFORE graduating with the MFA.  Of those 12, I </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/1251024714552221604'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/1251024714552221604'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html?showComment=1238903940000#c1251024714552221604' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8595608517396421159' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8595608517396421159' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-218394454"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 04, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5841372963616190863</id><published>2009-03-23T21:27:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-23T21:27:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>you dropped out for 20 years?so did  Ididn&#39;t miss ...</title><summary type='text'>you dropped out for 20 years?&lt;BR/&gt;so did  I&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;didn&#39;t miss much!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;now, what I see via these non-stop plogs...&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;a crock of dreck&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;no wonder these &quot;kids&quot; are lost!</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/5841372963616190863'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/5841372963616190863'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html?showComment=1237858020000#c5841372963616190863' title=''/><author><name>Ed Baker</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11285310130024785775</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_SpwtdDR0utk/R3Owpv1OTyI/AAAAAAAAAAM/5uapZyaJmtY/S220/Ed++by+Evie+Baker'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8595608517396421159' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8595608517396421159' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-771816173"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 23, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6768327558533200873</id><published>2009-03-23T19:39:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-23T19:39:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Maybe it&#39;s the times.When I went to Iowa, the othe...</title><summary type='text'>Maybe it&#39;s the times.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;When I went to Iowa, the other people included Norman Dubie, Jane Shore, Roger Weingarten, Barrett Watten, Thomas Rabbitt, Alice Notley, Robert Harris, Joseph Ditta, Elizabeth Libby, Sherry Lougheed, Denis Johnson, John Batki, Pat Hempl, Greg Simon, Dave Morice, David St. John, Michael Burkard, Wendy Salinger, Susan Zwinger, Michael Ryan, Albert Goldbarth, and a </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/6768327558533200873'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/6768327558533200873'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html?showComment=1237851540000#c6768327558533200873' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8595608517396421159' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8595608517396421159' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 23, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7801811293878529332</id><published>2009-03-23T01:43:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-23T01:43:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis,I swear to you, I&#39;ve never sensed any compe...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I swear to you, I&#39;ve never sensed any competitiveness whatsoever in any workshop I&#39;ve ever attended in IC.  These rumors of open competition in workshop are honestly unfathomable to me.  I understand you&#39;ll think I&#39;m somehow deluding myself, but I&#39;m serious--I swear to you, I have never once sensed any competitiveness in workshop.  And I am not the sort of person who doesn&#39;t pick</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/7801811293878529332'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/7801811293878529332'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html?showComment=1237786980000#c7801811293878529332' title=''/><author><name>Seth Abramson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08059849202129580100</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_0C6zfNUN2dI/RpI1VX9QIyI/AAAAAAAAACI/Ar7qLwIt4AQ/s400/seth.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8595608517396421159' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8595608517396421159' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-11614668"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 23, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7388193104838917997</id><published>2009-03-22T12:13:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-22T12:13:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Seth:It&#39;s nice to be a hole in the wall, or perhap...</title><summary type='text'>Seth:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It&#39;s nice to be a hole in the wall, or perhaps a fly on the wall.  Much more useful than being a &quot;writer&quot; in any sense.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It&#39;s true that famous writers generally haven&#39;t written inside a vacuum.  I&#39;m not sure that&#39;s what I was trying to assert.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I&#39;m more troubled by Ron&#39;s ideas that literary coteries and groups somehow facilitate writing, make it possible, justify </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/7388193104838917997'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/7388193104838917997'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html?showComment=1237738380000#c7388193104838917997' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8595608517396421159' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8595608517396421159' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 22, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5439370096453065330</id><published>2009-03-20T11:17:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-20T11:17:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Also, to answer your other question: many of the e...</title><summary type='text'>Also, to answer your other question: many of the early- to mid- twentieth century Greats had mentors.  Which reminds me: Do you think Black Mountain College was actually anything other than a studio-style MFA program?  Robert Creeley was Ed Dorn&#39;s &quot;examiner&quot; there, for chrissake.  Let&#39;s not fall into the semantic trap of pretending the MFA concept is &quot;new&quot;--the more academics-oriented programs (</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/5439370096453065330'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/5439370096453065330'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html?showComment=1237562220000#c5439370096453065330' title=''/><author><name>Seth Abramson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08059849202129580100</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_0C6zfNUN2dI/RpI1VX9QIyI/AAAAAAAAACI/Ar7qLwIt4AQ/s400/seth.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8595608517396421159' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8595608517396421159' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-11614668"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 20, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2961581386283198925</id><published>2009-03-20T10:59:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-20T10:59:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Hi Ian,Honestly--being serious here--I didn&#39;t actu...</title><summary type='text'>Hi Ian,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Honestly--being serious here--I didn&#39;t actually follow most of what you wrote. But re: what I could parse: I&#39;ve written countless candid assessments of my MFA program, online and privately (in e-mails to MFA applicants).  I have a generally positive attitude toward it because I have a generally grown-up and realistic attitude toward what an MFA program is and what it is not.  </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/2961581386283198925'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/2961581386283198925'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html?showComment=1237561140000#c2961581386283198925' title=''/><author><name>Seth Abramson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08059849202129580100</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_0C6zfNUN2dI/RpI1VX9QIyI/AAAAAAAAACI/Ar7qLwIt4AQ/s400/seth.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8595608517396421159' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8595608517396421159' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-11614668"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 20, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8643368174359324378</id><published>2009-03-20T07:07:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-20T07:07:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>See, already the percentage of good workshop poets...</title><summary type='text'>See, already the percentage of good workshop poets in Curtis&#39; recollections has jumped from 3% to 20%, and the week&#39;s not even over.. someone can do a bar graph on the computer.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/8643368174359324378'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/8643368174359324378'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html?showComment=1237547220000#c8643368174359324378' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8595608517396421159' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8595608517396421159' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 20, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1770011100462700711</id><published>2009-03-20T06:50:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-20T06:50:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;work has to be done&quot;</title><summary type='text'>&quot;work has to be done&quot;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/1770011100462700711'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/1770011100462700711'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html?showComment=1237546200000#c1770011100462700711' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8595608517396421159' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8595608517396421159' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-328297626"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 20, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2029779067532811743</id><published>2009-03-19T23:19:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-19T23:19:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>A long time ago David Antin wrote, “if robert lowe...</title><summary type='text'>A long time ago David Antin wrote, “if robert lowell is a poet i don’t want to be a poet if robert frost was a poet i don’t want to be a poet if socrates was a poet ill consider it.” Me, as for me, as for being a poet, well, &quot;ill consider it ...&quot; but not too hard. I&#39;ve got work to do.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/2029779067532811743'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/2029779067532811743'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html?showComment=1237519140000#c2029779067532811743' title=''/><author><name>John B-R</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01041221232768939991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8595608517396421159' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8595608517396421159' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-574567698"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 19, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4695183628581902683</id><published>2009-03-19T22:56:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-19T22:56:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Seth:MFA writing programs haven&#39;t always existed. ...</title><summary type='text'>Seth:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;MFA writing programs haven&#39;t always existed.  Once upon a time, poets just read a lot of poetry, and simply began writing it on their own.  There were no schools.  How did Keats and Browning and Pound learn to write?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;How did Chaucer learn to?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It may be that writing programs channel certain principles of &quot;teaching&quot; writing that have nothing whatever to do with the </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/4695183628581902683'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/4695183628581902683'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html?showComment=1237517760000#c4695183628581902683' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8595608517396421159' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8595608517396421159' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 19, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4626859331732070267</id><published>2009-03-19T21:09:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-19T21:09:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Seth, first of all: I think you and Curtis are fro...</title><summary type='text'>Seth, first of all: I think you and Curtis are from the same MFA program.  If you ever do lose your cheery and supportive disposition towards this program you may bring more current observation and painstaking analysis to Curtis&#39; spiel than Curtis, but for the time being you are saying that the only people enfranchised to speak about a topic are the people that agree with you, and that all </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/4626859331732070267'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/4626859331732070267'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html?showComment=1237511340000#c4626859331732070267' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8595608517396421159' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8595608517396421159' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 19, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4736062200624503537</id><published>2009-03-19T12:11:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-19T12:11:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by the author.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/4736062200624503537'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/4736062200624503537'/><author><name>Georgie</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/14767771887014774485</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8595608517396421159' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8595608517396421159' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-992609239"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 19, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2360098337527489381</id><published>2009-03-19T11:54:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-19T11:54:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Rebecca, exactly the same can be said of most grad...</title><summary type='text'>Rebecca, exactly the same can be said of most graduate programs in the humanities, I&#39;m afraid. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I am very curious as to why, though, there is so much distrust in MFAs. As if there were some class/economic/social bias against them... am I wrong?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/2360098337527489381'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/2360098337527489381'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html?showComment=1237478040000#c2360098337527489381' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8595608517396421159' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8595608517396421159' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-328297626"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 19, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1156991690749565066</id><published>2009-03-19T09:59:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-19T09:59:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The thing about MFA programs is not all of them ar...</title><summary type='text'>The thing about MFA programs is not all of them are equal.  Many of them have a Famous Writer and a bunch of people who have MFAs or PhDs and some publication credits.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In real literary work, the young discover which of the older writers are important to them, who gives them what they need to build on.  The MFA program turn this upside down.  I know several people who teach in MFA </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/1156991690749565066'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/1156991690749565066'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html?showComment=1237471140000#c1156991690749565066' title=''/><author><name>Rebecca</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/02970460598359037559</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8595608517396421159' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8595608517396421159' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-2037586659"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 19, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8851644700804152262</id><published>2009-03-18T23:26:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-18T23:26:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>As Ken Knabb wrote in his flyer &quot;Do We Need the Po...</title><summary type='text'>As Ken Knabb wrote in his flyer &quot;Do We Need the Poet Priests,&quot; distributed at a Gary Snyder reading: &quot;Poetry by all or not at all.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;http://www.bopsecrets.org/PS/snyder.htm&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Love,&lt;BR/&gt;Joseph</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/8851644700804152262'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/8851644700804152262'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html?showComment=1237433160000#c8851644700804152262' title=''/><author><name>Joseph</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04198361010239184280</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8595608517396421159' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8595608517396421159' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1692273932"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 18, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1138697211132255880</id><published>2009-03-18T20:35:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-18T20:35:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Along with denigrating the idea that just anybody ...</title><summary type='text'>Along with denigrating the idea that just anybody can call herself a Poet comes the idea that most poetry is Bad. Eek! Cooties!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;This observation has become so rote that it&#39;s lost all meaning. I expect there&#39;d be just as big a debate among this crew on which poem is Bad as on which poem is Good. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Interesting things can happen in bad poems -- really crazed metaphors, for instance </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/1138697211132255880'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/1138697211132255880'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html?showComment=1237422900000#c1138697211132255880' title=''/><author><name>Glenn Ingersoll</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/10674475308395975995</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_iMEmv6aWYmc/SUbr7qd5GII/AAAAAAAAAW0/VdzuqU-cysU/S220/GIandSundy.JPG'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8595608517396421159' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8595608517396421159' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-38984541"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 18, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6881098777865923681</id><published>2009-03-18T17:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-18T17:00:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by the author.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/6881098777865923681'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/6881098777865923681'/><author><name>Georgie</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/14767771887014774485</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8595608517396421159' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8595608517396421159' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-992609239"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 18, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7838708965230324411</id><published>2009-03-18T15:56:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-18T15:56:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I think you&#39;re absolutely right when you say that ...</title><summary type='text'>I think you&#39;re absolutely right when you say that MFA programs don&#39;t create poets, but they encourage more people to write poetry and try to get it published.  I&#39;m in an MFA program and before I began my courses, I was equally interested in writing prose and poetry.  Now I&#39;m definitely more interested in poetry and plan to pursue publication.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/7838708965230324411'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/7838708965230324411'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html?showComment=1237406160000#c7838708965230324411' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8595608517396421159' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8595608517396421159' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-328297626"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 18, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-9076496894550810514</id><published>2009-03-18T12:56:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-18T12:56:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis,I wonder how you explain the dozens of full...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I wonder how you explain the dozens of fully-funded or near-fully-funded MFA and Ph.D. in CW programs?  What money are &lt;EM&gt;they&lt;/EM&gt; making?  Nor have I spoken to a single MFA Director yet who hasn&#39;t desperately tried to increase the funding for his/her students, with an ultimate goal of full funding for every student.  Respectfully--you don&#39;t know what you&#39;re talking about.  It </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/9076496894550810514'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/9076496894550810514'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html?showComment=1237395360000#c9076496894550810514' title=''/><author><name>Seth Abramson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08059849202129580100</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_0C6zfNUN2dI/RpI1VX9QIyI/AAAAAAAAACI/Ar7qLwIt4AQ/s400/seth.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8595608517396421159' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8595608517396421159' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-11614668"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 18, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4556469508525235197</id><published>2009-03-18T12:43:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-18T12:43:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>thank goodness we have Curtis to jump in and clari...</title><summary type='text'>thank goodness we have Curtis to jump in and clarify what literature is and to define talent for us. if this sort of thing is so clear, Curtis, why is there ever even a debate about what&#39;s good or not? i just love when we take a subject that is absolutely subjective and talk about it as if it&#39;s objective.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;also, MFA programs may not produce poets (in the same way history departments may </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/4556469508525235197'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/4556469508525235197'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html?showComment=1237394580000#c4556469508525235197' title=''/><author><name>peter</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05327429647175738328</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8595608517396421159' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8595608517396421159' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-2035658647"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 18, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5157870165184219720</id><published>2009-03-18T10:25:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-18T10:25:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>To have the title of &amp;quot;poet&amp;quot; I think requ...</title><summary type='text'>To have the title of &amp;quot;poet&amp;quot; I think requires at least three things: Talent, Text &amp;amp; Audience.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;1) You have to have a considerable linguistic facility--which is a combination of intense curiosity and a large appetite for reading, linked to innate ability.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;2) You have to make your opportunity (unless it&amp;#39;s given to you--but opportunity alone means nothing) count, </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/5157870165184219720'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/5157870165184219720'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html?showComment=1237386300000#c5157870165184219720' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8595608517396421159' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8595608517396421159' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 18, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2011561840141807980</id><published>2009-03-18T09:15:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-18T09:15:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Oh seriously, who cares?12,333 people wrote an ema...</title><summary type='text'>Oh seriously, who cares?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;12,333 people wrote an email this minute.  100,000 read one.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It&#39;s called chain mail and most poetry is only slightly higher in quality than what is being published.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/2011561840141807980'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/2011561840141807980'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html?showComment=1237382100000#c2011561840141807980' title=''/><author><name>Meg</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11023871171456340729</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_uYCDfb2QGz8/R-T_8p07tdI/AAAAAAAAALk/-vDDGcPoXP0/S220/Cotton+gully.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8595608517396421159' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8595608517396421159' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-2000124934"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 18, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8019198976496531366</id><published>2009-03-18T04:32:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-18T04:32:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Also, shouldn&#39;t we consider the socioeconomic and ...</title><summary type='text'>Also, shouldn&#39;t we consider the socioeconomic and cultural context? If x number of people who finish creative writing programs do not publish or do not publish much, why is that?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I sniff -I have before- a bit of a contempt for graduate education and the writing it produces, but still more established writers are happy to get good wages -and their reputations in some cases elevated- by </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/8019198976496531366'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/8019198976496531366'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html?showComment=1237365120000#c8019198976496531366' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8595608517396421159' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8595608517396421159' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-328297626"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 18, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4487049667233478616</id><published>2009-03-18T04:20:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-18T04:20:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by the author.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/4487049667233478616'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/8595608517396421159/comments/default/4487049667233478616'/><author><name>Georgie</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/14767771887014774485</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/seth-abramson-other-day-when-i-wrote.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8595608517396421159' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/8595608517396421159' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-992609239"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 18, 2009"/></entry></feed>