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Holt</span></a>, <a href="http://www.poetryinternationalweb.net/pi/site/festival_poet/item/22043/Hedi-Kaddour"><span class=SpellE><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint: 242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor: text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms: "lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>Hédi</span></span><span style='color:#0D0D0D; mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D; mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%; mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'> <span class=SpellE>Kaddour</span></span></a>, <a href="http://www.poetryinternationalweb.net/pi/site/festival_poet/item/22042/Marije-Langelaar"><span class=SpellE><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint: 242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor: text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms: "lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>Marije</span></span><span style='color:#0D0D0D; mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D; mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%; mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'> <span class=SpellE>Langelaar</span></span></a>, <br> <a href="http://www.poetryinternationalweb.net/pi/site/festival_poet/item/22045/Jan-Lauwereyns-"><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>Jan <span class=SpellE>Lauwereyns</span> </span></a>, <a href="http://www.poetryinternationalweb.net/pi/site/festival_poet/item/22041/Marcio-Andre"><span class=SpellE><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint: 242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor: text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms: "lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>Márcio</span></span><span style='color:#0D0D0D; mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D; mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%; mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>-André</span></a>, <a href="http://www.poetryinternationalweb.net/pi/site/festival_poet/item/22040/Chus-Pato"><span class=SpellE><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint: 242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor: text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms: "lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>Chus</span></span><span style='color:#0D0D0D; mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D; mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%; mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'> <span class=SpellE>Pato</span></span></a>, <br> <a href="http://www.poetryinternationalweb.net/pi/site/festival_poet/item/22044/Tomaz-Salamun"><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>Tomaž Šalamun</span></a>, <a href="http://www.poetryinternationalweb.net/pi/site/festival_poet/item/22013/K.-Satchidanandan"><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>K. 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It&#8217;s been nearly 140 years since Rimbaud stopped writing, but I was reading Amin Khan&#8217;s <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><a href="http://www.spdbooks.org/Producte/9780942996753/vision-of-the-return.aspx"><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>Vision of the Return</span></a></i></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height: 115%;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> in Dawn-Michelle <span class=SpellE>Baude&#8217;s</span> translation when I came across the following piece:<o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt; line-height:115%;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I saw the corpse of the plum tree<br> of the camel his splattered guts<br> the soiled tears of the child<br> the sniffle of orphan light<br> <br> I abandoned the pursuit of art<br> to sleep for eternity<br> under the fevered feet of my children<o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"'>It&#8217;s that second stanza that stopped me cold. It seems like such a puffy, overwritten way to say <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>I chose death over art </i>that it calls to mind Pound&#8217;s old dictum that poetry needs to be at least as well written as prose. Now I&#8217;ve known <span class=SpellE>Baude&#8217;s</span> work for decades and I trust her judgment, as well as that of Post-Apollo Press, well enough to know that Khan cannot be an insignificant figure, and that this is not apt to be a blundering translation. <o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"'>For the most part, the early sections of Khan&#8217;s book are spare, a kind of muted expressiveness that can be quite effective. Nothing before suggests that this comic flight is intentional &amp; knowing that Khan first published this book in 1989, when he was in his early 30s, doesn&#8217;t much help. Rather, I think what Khan is doing here is signaling an allegiance to the surreal, as such, something he&#8217;s done elsewhere in this volume, perhaps with less pathos.<o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"'>Which brings me to the question of what does it mean? As an Algerian writing in French, it&#8217;s not an insignificant move. <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Vision </i>was the third of Khan&#8217;s books, and the third to be published in French in Algeria, although Khan comes from a revolutionary family in Algiers and has worked as a diplomat for various global agencies (UN, UNESCO, <span class=GramE>The</span> World Bank). The work&#8217;s relationship to the life is obviously complex.<o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"'>My question has at least two aspects to it. One is what does it mean for someone from a former French colony, writing in French, to adopt the stance of an historic &#8211; albeit dated &#8211; avant-garde? The other, the one that itches at me still, is the problem of what does it mean to write a stanza whose primary message would seem to be surrealism, as if Khan had simply raised a large banner: SURREALISM HERE. <o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242; mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1; mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms: "lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>Obviously the meaning of surrealism in France, where it was principally the poetry of sophisticates between two catastrophic wars, is very different from what it has been in the United States, where it has more often been a code for &#8220;<span class=SpellE>Europeanness</span>,&#8221; not in the sense of death camps &amp; carpet bombing so much as chardonnay &amp; Gauloises. Khan himself <a href="http://postapollopress.blogspot.com/2011/08/interview-with-amin-khan-author-of.html"><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>aligns the book</span></a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> with his own sense of doom at the Algerian political situation in the late 1980s as Arab nationalism began to devolve into the civil war of the following decade. <o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"'>But I&#8217;m reminded of what Robert Grenier wrote about speech, himself echoing what William Carlos Williams once had written about the sonnet &#8211; that at a certain point in history an established mode of writing simply is the past dragged on as formal habit. That it can only say itself, so that little or nothing can actually be said <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>with it</i>. That might not be true of surrealism in France, Algeria or any of the former French colonies, but it&#8217;s very difficult to negotiate stateside. <o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"'>If you examine that second stanza more closely, you will note that Khan is associating death here with domesticity, suggesting that to look to the family as a respite from the coming slaughter &#8211; the first stanza is clear enough &#8211; is a coward&#8217;s mode of survival. One might associate Khan&#8217;s indictment here of the domestic with Milan Kundera&#8217;s not dissimilar portrayal of libidinal life in Soviet-era Czechoslovakia. There is more going on in that second stanza than my first read-through could see. <o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"'>But what I get is this unresolvable cognitive dissonance between what this poem &#8211; and that second stanza &#8211; are and do in Khan&#8217;s life &amp; work, and what it means to come upon it in America some 23 years hence. It&#8217;s possible to build an intellectual bridge to the context in which Khan&#8217;s poem can be read as shattering, but it&#8217;s something very different to experience it. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><a href="http://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Wuhan-Poets.php"><span style='color:black;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-no-proof:yes;text-decoration:none; text-underline:none'><img border="0" height="380" src="https://writing.upenn.edu/epc/mirrors/ronsilliman.blogspot.com/images/lh4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/W7P-MeOT1sftgF7BBnpcshuekSwKkcu6HYKKCebUDli9ImVWc5Id-TpB9_I3X55NQFrLx2RZRFtfdfTnYxGy0zhcUGRUZlkSI9J2s0IqUNGSUIs%3Ds0-d" width="534"></span></a><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><span style='color:#0D0D0D; mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D; mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%; mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>On December 9, a large delegation of poets from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan"><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>Wuhan</span></a>, the most populous city in central China, visited <a href="http://writing.upenn.edu/wh/"><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor: text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor: text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms: "lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>Kelly Writers House</span></a> at Penn. For nearly all, this was the first visit to the U.S. These poets &#8211; </span><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint: 242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor: text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms: "lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>Liang <span class=SpellE>Biwen</span>, Liu <span class=SpellE>Yishan</span>, Chen Ying-Song, <span class=SpellE>Tiang</span> He, Wang <span class=SpellE>Xinmin</span>, <span class=SpellE>Ke</span> <span class=SpellE>Yumin</span>, Hu Xiang &amp; Liu An &#8211; read and then had their poetry read in English by one of a team of volunteer translators: <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><a href="http://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Perelman.html"><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>Bob Perelman</span></a> , <a href="http://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Dowling.php"><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>Sarah Dowling</span></a> , <a href="http://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Taransky.php"><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>Michelle Taransky</span></a> , <a href="http://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Bernstein.html"><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>Charles Bernstein</span></a> , <a href="http://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Djanikian.php"><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>Greg Djanikian</span></a> &amp; <span class=SpellE>Yanrong</span>. <span class=SpellE>Yarong</span> is the current scholar-in-residence at the Chinese/American Association of Poetry and Poetics (<a href="http://writing.upenn.edu/news/CAAP.html"><span style='color:#0D0D0D; mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D; mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%; mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>CAAP</span></a>). The process was then reversed, with texts by Bernstein, Dowling, Djanikian, Taransky &amp; Perelman (&#8220;China&#8221;!) translated into Chinese. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><span style='color:#0D0D0D; mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D; mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%; mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>In 2009, as part of its <a href="http://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Writers-Without-Borders.php"><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>Writers Without Borders</span></a> series, Writers House hosted <a href="http://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Li.php"><span class=SpellE><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>Zhimin</span></span><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'> Li</span></a>, a poet who teaches at Guangzhou University (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangzhou"><span style='color:#0D0D0D; mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D; mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%; mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>Guangzhou</span></a> is the city most Americans my age think of as Canton) &amp; sits on the CAAP board. Li gave a reading &amp; a talk on new Chinese poetry. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-left:.25in;text-align:center'><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>Downloadable audio of the <a href="http://media.sas.upenn.edu/pennsound/authors/Li/Li-Zhimin_Writers-Without-Borders_KWH-UPenn_02-04-09.mp3"><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>full reading here</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-left:.25in;text-align:center'><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>Downloadable audio of <a href="http://media.sas.upenn.edu/pennsound/authors/Li/WWB-02-04-09/Li-Zhimin_21_Lecture-New-Chinese-Poetry_Writers-Without-Borders_KWH-UPenn_02-04-09.mp3"><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>Li&#8217;s talk here</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-left:.25in;text-align:center'><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>Text of Li&#8217;s talk &#8211; <a href="http://interlitq.org/issue10/zhimin-li/job.php"><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>New Chinese Poetry: <br> The Origin &amp; Development from the Perspective<br> of Cultural Exchanges between China &amp; the West</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-left:.25in;text-align:center'><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color: #0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha: 100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>Access to segmented poems is available<br> through <a href="http://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Li.php"><span class=SpellE><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint: 242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor: text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%;mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms: "lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'>Zhimin</span></span><span style='color:#0D0D0D; mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D; mso-style-textfill-fill-themecolor:text1;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%; mso-style-textfill-fill-colortransforms:"lumm=95000 lumo=5000"'> Li&#8217;s</span></a> page on PennSound<o:p></o:p></span></p>   
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'><a href=" http://www.lameduckbooks.com/shop/go/10850LB/"><img border="0" height="368" src="https://writing.upenn.edu/epc/mirrors/ronsilliman.blogspot.com/images/lh6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/qITfXa3Q4A909dJadoFv_UYdvk1PANdYl8TwofXCaOICOocbrsqES3x13rjfzU2nnEuEwfYEVkrOglMndXhQppeulQkVHxiETlvqSu1H9jKhQyE%3Ds0-d" width="280"></span></a><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242'><br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242'>I had an &#8220;aha moment&#8221; reading <a href="http://www.brooklynrail.org/2007/12/poetry/ren-char"><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242'>René Char&#8217;s</span></a> <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><a href="http://www.counterpathpress.org/aupgs/char/char.html"><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242'>The Brittle Age </span><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242;font-style:normal'>and </span><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242'>Returning Upland</span></a>,</i>the two volumes of mid-sixties poetry translated by Gustaf Sobin &amp; released this year by Counterpath Press in a design that <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>winks at the New Directions volumes both authors had. <a href="http://www.enotes.com/poetry-criticism/rene-char"><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242'>Char&#8217;s</span></a> an Objectivist. Well, not an Objectivist really, but he is someone who echoes some of the same concerns that show up in American poetry in the work of Louis Zukofsky, George Oppen, Carl Rakosi, Charles Reznikoff et al, writers who were in fact his contemporaries. In this sense, Gustav Sobin, Char&#8217;s neighbor &amp; protégé, whose own poetry has always struck me &#8211; as do the work of John Taggart &amp;, in places at least, the late Ronald Johnson &#8211; as shaped heavily by Objectivism, seems the perfect person to have tackled this work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242'>This is not, I think, an instance of the translator turning his subject into a mirror of his own obsessions &#8211; the volume presents not only Char&#8217;s French originals, but, as an appendix, a number of variant translations by Sobin himself, apparently done in &#8220;an earlier period.&#8221; Nor is it out of any conscious parallel on Char&#8217;s part &#8211; he knew of American poetry, as it knew of him. The book&#8217;s rear cover quotes some lines by Williams directed to Char by name: <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>René Char / you are a poet who believes / in the power of beauty / to right all wrongs. / I believe it also. </i>While the poems of <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>The Brittle Age (L&#8217;Âge Cassant) </i>may look reminiscent of Stein&#8217;s <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Tender<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>Buttons </i>(&amp; thus, by inference at least, Williams&#8217; <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Kora</i> <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>in Hell: Improvisations), </i>they&#8217;re nothing like them in tone or focus:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:.5in;margin-bottom:10.0pt;margin-left:.5in;text-indent:.5in'><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242'>In fidelity we learn never to be consoled<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:.5in;margin-bottom:10.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:.5in'><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242'>*<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:.5in;margin-bottom:10.0pt;margin-left:.5in;text-indent:.5in'><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242'>No man, unless he be dead in living, can feel at anchor in this life.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:.5in;margin-bottom:10.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:.5in'><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242'>*<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:.5in;margin-bottom:10.0pt;margin-left:.5in;text-indent:.5in'><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242'>How would the end justify the means? There is no end, only and forever the means, always more machinated.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242'>However, these three poems could fit almost seamlessly into <I style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Of Being Numerous, </i>George Oppen&#8217;s great poem of the same period. How is that possible? In what sense might these brief pieces conceivably capture the essence of Williams&#8217; comment about beauty? If anything, the emotion of the first poem relies entirely on Char&#8217;s own obsessive commitment to fidelity in language, which is everywhere manifest in this volume. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242'>It was Char, after all, who was <a href="http://www.thirdfactory.net/barthes.html"><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242'>Roland Barthes&#8217;</span></a> template of zero degree poetry in <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Writing Degree Zero, </i>even if Barthes&#8217; description sounds for all the world like early period Clark Coolidge. For Char does, like Zukofsky, like the best of Oppen, represent the turn toward language in the poem. Not in the aesthetic sense that one might think of, pointing to Baudelaire or Mallarmé or even Stein, but rather in the ethical one &#8211; where Char has a lot in common with Oppen, say, or with Ponge. Francis Ponge is the poet whom I&#8217;ve always thought of when I imagined a French equivalent for Objectivism. It is not simply his obsession with objects &#8211; &#8220;The Object is Poetics&#8221; the title of a key statement, intending very much both senses of that first noun &#8211; but the degree to which language &amp; voice are intertwined in his thinking.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242'>I don&#8217;t think of Ponge particularly when I think of Char, nor vice versa, but perhaps that&#8217;s a mistake on my part. Both were born within the same time frame as the Objectivists (dating from Reznikoff in &#8217;94 through Oppen in &#8217;08) &#8211; Ponge in &#8217;99, Char in &#8217;07. Both French poets died in 1988, four years after Oppen, a decade after Zukofsky. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242'>All of these poets had their lives &amp; careers disrupted by the Second World War. Char &amp; Ponge were both active in the French Resistance. Oppen saw combat. In the U.S., the anti-communism &amp; anti-semitism that led to the disappearance of most of the Objectivists from print &amp; literary society between 1940 &amp; 1962 prevented them from having the kind of international discovery of one another that one sees much more commonly today. It was, in fact, Cid Corman whose <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Origin</i> first put both groups of poets together. But I don&#8217;t think I ever got the genius of Corman&#8217;s editing on this until I read Sobin&#8217;s translations.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242'>As translations, they seem serviceable, but the appendix of variant translations &#8211; there are ten in all &#8211; tend to be more direct, more colloquial &amp; more well constructed. Consider the opening lines of &#8220;Septentrion,&#8221; a word that is obsolete in English, refering to the North: <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242'>&#8212;Je me suis promenée au bord de la Folie.&#8212;<br>
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Aux questions de mon coeur,<br>
S&#8217;il ne les posait point,<br>
Ma compagne cédait,<br>
Tant est inventive l&#8217;absence.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242'>Here is the main translation from the body of the book:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242'>&#8212;I walked along the edge of the Folie. &#8212;<br>
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To the unmentioned questions of my heart<br>
My companion yielded,<br>
So inventive is absence.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242'>Here is the version from the appendix:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242'>&#8212;I walked along the edge of the Folie. &#8212;<br>
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To the questions of my heart,<br>
If none were forthcoming,<br>
My companion yielded,<br>
So inventive is absence.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242'>I might have prefered &#8220;Which it failed to pose,&#8221; or even &#8220;Which I failed to pose&#8221; to &#8220;If none were forthcoming,&#8221; but there seems to me no way of avoiding the fact that Sobin&#8217;s earlier, rejected version is superior to the later &#8220;main&#8221; one. It better captures the cadence of Char&#8217;s logic that get irretrievably lost in inserting &#8220;unmentioned&#8221; into the first line of the second stanza. &#8220;Unmentioned&#8221; not only bloats the line, it&#8217;s a less exact rendering of Char&#8217;s original: <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>unspoken </i>would have been better.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0D0D0D;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-themetint:242'>This isn&#8217;t particularly a criticism of the book, however. Sobin has complete translations of the two volumes, and that&#8217;s what&#8217;s rendered here in the main body of the text. But he also has these other variations, some of which are considerably better than their counterparts in the completed project. One could have, I suppose, combined the two &amp; only published the best versions. But this seems the much fuller view, showing Sobin approaching these poems not once, but twice. One wonders what cut short the earlier attempt. Either way, this is a wonderful book. Just be sure you read the appendix &#8211; some of the very best work is there. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>In my note on <a href="http://writing.upenn.edu/epc/mirrors/ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/05/there-was-time-when-serious-novelist.html"><span style='color:black'>Paul Auster&#8217;s poetry</span></a> the other day, I  wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:.5in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:black'>Auster&#8217;s work looks on its surface a little like New York School verse, especially of the uptown Columbia variant that looked more to Ron Padgett &amp; John Ashbery than, say, to Ted Berrigan (who, so far as I&#8217;m aware, never published any translations&#185;).<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>The footnote admitted that &#8220;This virtually is an invitation to be corrected, and I&#8217;d love to be.&#8221; Several people wrote in, either via the comments stream or via email, including (among others) Jordan Davis, Tinker Greene, Ron Horning &amp; Anselm Berrigan, pointing to a variety of instances of translation in Ted Berrigan&#8217;s work. What follows is a synthesis of these comments. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>There is a translation of Rimbaud&#8217;s <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Le Bateau ivre </i>published by Adventures in Poetry with illustrations by Joe Brainard under the title <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><a href="http://tinyurl.com/2vdf6v"><span style='color:black'>The Drunken Boat</span></a> </i>that is also the basis for many lines throughout <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>The Sonnets, </i>especially the first I-VI and LXXIV. There are at least eight copies of this side-stapled mimeo volume currently available in used or rare book shops in the U.S., the very least expensive of which is $110. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Life of a Man </span></i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>is collected in the <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>In the Early Morning Rain </i>section of the <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Collected Poems </i>tho it first appeared in <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Bean Spasms. </i>The notes to the <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Collected </i>characterize this sequence as &#8220;transliterated from Giuseppe Ungaretti&#8217;s <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Vita di un uomo.</i>&#8221; The version in the <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Collected </i>contains two poems not in <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Bean Spasms </i>while dropping two others. In <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Nothing for You </i>is a translation from Rilke called &#8220;Autumn&#8217;s Day.&#8221; Tinker Greene typed the whole thing into the Auster note comments stream.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;tab-stops:108.75pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>In <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Easter Monday </i>is a translation from Leopardi done as a collaboration with George Schneeman &amp; Gordon Brotherston. There is another collaborative translation with Brotherston in the <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Collected, </i>in a section right near the end entitled <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>A Certain Slant of Sunlight Out-Takes </i>is &#8220;Der Asra,&#8221; a working of Heinrich Heine&#8217;s poem of the same name. A chapbook of eight collaborative translations Berrigan &amp; Brotherston did together is apparently in the works, under the title <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Water Under the House. </i>In addition to these two poems I am told that there is a work by Neruda in that collection. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Compared with, say, Ron Padgett or Anselm Hollo, this is not a vast quantity and in some ways this is surprising. Translations invariably are a mode of forced collaboration, not just for the translated poet but for the translator as well. And Berrigan was easily the most collaborative poet of his generation &#8211; indeed many of our accepted ideas about what collaboration is can be traced directly back to Berrigan&#8217;s practice and the huge influence it has had over the last four decades. What we can say about the translations here is that they&#8217;re of poets who were already canonic before Berrigan got to them &amp; that he&#8217;s very much following the Poundian model of using the process to access different modes of being. This is nowhere more true than in <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Life of a Man, </i>in which the ex-GI Berrigan writes through the Italian poet of World War I. Further, as a Jew born in Alexandria, Egypt &amp; raised partly in Paris, Ungaretti&#8217;s own relationship to his family&#8217;s ancestral home of Lucca is at least as complicated as that of the relatively unlettered Berrigan thrown in with all the Ivy-League graduates-turned-art-critics who populated the New York School.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></p> 

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Perhaps Adventures in Poetry should reissue <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>The Drunken Boat. </i>I&#8217;ve heard two people in the past week claim it to be second only to <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>The Sonnets </i>among Berrigan&#8217;s achievement &amp; tho I&#8217;m a &#8220;late poem&#8221; guy myself, I take that as a serious claim. The other obvious book that should come out &#8211; I would be surprised to discover that nobody&#8217;s working on this &#8211; is a Collected Collaborations. Now <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>that </i>will be a volume to conjure by. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>There is a moment in <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>The Iliad </i>when the useless devastation of war suddenly comes into focus, when all its associated bravery &amp; implicit nobility is revealed as pointless &amp; stands for the catastrophe it invariably is. <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>The Iliad, </i>after all, is the song of  </span><st1:place><span class=SpellE><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Ilium</span></span></st1:place><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>, or </span><st1:City><st1:place><span   style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Troy</span></st1:place></st1:City><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>, and there comes a moment when the destruction of </span><st1:City><st1:place><span   style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Troy</span></st1:place></st1:City><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> is inevitable, when it is clear to all concerned that </span><st1:place><span class=SpellE><span  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Ilium</span></span></st1:place><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> has no future. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>That moment is the death of Hector, firstborn son of the king, at the hands of Achilles. Hector understands the futility of his fight going into the match &amp;, at his death, his father, Priam, bemoans the loss of his sons, Hector most of all, &amp; <span class=SpellE>Hector&#8217;s</span> widow cries out not only for her dead spouse, but for the future that awaits their son <span class=SpellE>Astyanax</span>, of whom Homer says:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:black'>now his life is only filled<br>
with misery and a pathetic path<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>This moment is the focal point of <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><a href="http://www.atticusfinch.org/jarnot.htm"><span style='color:black'>Iliad XXII</span></a>, </i>a stunning book &amp; terrific translation by <a href="http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/lisajarnot/blog/"><span style='color:black'>Lisa</span></a> <a href="http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/jarnot/"><span style='color:black'>Jarnot</span></a>, just published by <a href="http://www.atticusfinch.org/"><span style='color:black'>Atticus Finch</span></a> books of </span><st1:City><st1:place><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Buffalo</span></st1:place></st1:City><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>. Of all the political acts against the current debacle in </span><st1:country-region><st1:place><span   style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Iraq</span></st1:place></st1:country-region><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>, this is surely the most elegant. Not simply because of the translation nor the production values (a new level of excellence for Michael Cross, who is rapidly joining the legendary fine press printers of Buffalo, NY, alongside <a href="http://www.handwritten.org/"><span style='color:black'>Kristen Gallagher</span></a> &amp; <a href="http://www.cuneiformpress.com/"><span style='color:black'>Kyle Schlesinger</span></a>), but because of the sly way this particular passage points out that Homer was clear 2800 years ago about some of the basic dynamics of history that so clearly elude W &amp; his <span class=SpellE>neocon</span> brain trust. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Iliad XXII</span></i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> is fascinating not simply as political gesture. Lisa Jarnot has already demonstrated herself to be one of our most resourceful &amp; talented poets. Her translation is doubly sly for the ways in which it calls up yet another bellicose <span class=SpellE>rightwinger</span>, one who in fact had more than a little interest in Homeric verse:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:black'>So then the Trojans <br>
poured down through the city<br>
and fled there like deer<br>
that were brightened<br>
with sweat<span class=GramE>,</span><br>
and they drank<br>
and they cooled down<br>
their thirst,<br>
and they<br>
rested themselves<br>
in the city&#8217;s embankments<br>
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and all of the troops of Achaeans<br>
with their shoulders to steady their shields<br>
<br>
and then there was Hector<br>
where fate made him stay<br>
in front of the city <br>
and alone at its gate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>The first word of this passage is almost uniformly translated &#8220;Thus,&#8221; so that <span class=SpellE>Jarnot&#8217;s</span> insertion of a word favored by Ezra Pound &#8211; the two final words of <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Canto I </i>are <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>So that &#8211; </i>hardly can be an accident.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Iliad <span class=GramE>XXII <span style='font-style:normal'><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>is</span></span></span></i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> not a Pound imitation. The style Jarnot adopts for the translation, however, falls clearly in a long line extending out from Pound, and which would include Charles Olson, Paul Blackburn&#8217;s great translation of <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><a href="http://oupress.com/bookdetail.asp?isbn=0-8061-3022-9"><span style='color:black'>The Poem of the Cid</span></a> </i>&#8211; one of the all-time major neglectorino texts &#8211; &amp; others whom Jarnot herself thanks in a brief acknowledgements note. It is true, and not that often acknowledged, that right at the front of the Pound- Williams-Zukofsky tradition &amp; that of the Projectivist poets who followed most closely in that same vein, right there in the very first <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Canto,</i> <span class=GramE>lies</span> a version of Homer. <span class=GramE>Which may be why this literary vein, among all others, has stood up so well as a mode for epic translation &#8211; contrast </span></span><st1:place><span class=GramE><span  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Blackburn</span></span></st1:place><span class=GramE><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>&#8217;s <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Cid </i>with the <a href="http://tinyurl.com/hsbq2"><span style='color:black'>bloodless mess</span></a> put forth by Bill Merwin.</span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Jarnot stays close to this Pound/post-Pound tradition, tho she is capable of sounding positively beat, as when Athena comes to Hector in the guise of his younger brother:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:black'>&#8220;Sir<br> my elder brother,<br>
Achilles of the swift foot<br>
is working his bad shit on you,<br>
chasing you around the city of Priam<br>
in that sleek fast way that he has &#8211;<br>
but come indeed<br>
let&#8217;s stand here<br>
and fend off<br>
his next approaching.&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>So this is not a Lisa Jarnot poem, even if it is a Lisa Jarnot work. It is, however, a translation that is turned in more than one direction: at Homer, at Bush &amp; Co., at Pound, at an entire tradition of writing as a mode of literary transcription, at the questions of bravery &amp; fate, and of the consequences of war, that leveler of civilizations, destroyer of families. That&#8217;s a lot to get into just two signatures of paper sewn into perfect-bound boards. But hardly anyone sets the bar for their work as high as Lisa Jarnot, and this is no exception. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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