<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post111739629193721929..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>56</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111834384404331869</id><published>2005-06-09T15:04:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-09T15:04:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111834384404331869'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111834384404331869'/><author><name>dave cook</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07710248443274258054</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111739629193721929' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111739629193721929' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-725396146"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 09, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111828406469214714</id><published>2005-06-08T22:27:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-08T22:27:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron, As much I enjoy you as an instigator of disco...</title><summary type='text'>Ron, &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;As much I enjoy you as an instigator of discourse and all (and you know I really mean that), what *is* up with the inmate imprimatur thing? &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;There&#39;s a lot of chatter in the Boston press the past few days about a downtown retailer called Hip Zepi, which is selling fake, and totally ineffective, bulletproof vests to those who don&#39;t want to be seen in anything but the very </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111828406469214714'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111828406469214714'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html?showComment=1118284020000#c111828406469214714' title=''/><author><name>hackzkztv</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04809989461583195705</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111739629193721929' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111739629193721929' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1003761333"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 08, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111828070769062028</id><published>2005-06-08T21:31:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-08T21:31:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>There maybe fruitless avenues for arts, Simon, but...</title><summary type='text'>There maybe fruitless avenues for arts, Simon, but there is not much fruit, if any, to be had from agonistic struggles with adamant resistance of the &quot;why the hell must I read this?&quot; variety. Is there any room left for persuasion?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111828070769062028'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111828070769062028'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html?showComment=1118280660000#c111828070769062028' title=''/><author><name>Tony Green</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13492210498538450577</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111739629193721929' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111739629193721929' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-870372789"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 08, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111826621805261936</id><published>2005-06-08T17:30:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-08T17:30:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Yes, Larry, but I take that is the point of the an...</title><summary type='text'>Yes, Larry, but I take that is the point of the analogy? Both as you used it and as Simon did.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Pollock is to a map to the train station what Coolidge is to a grocery list.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I.e., art suspends &quot;ordinary usage&quot; but is &quot;somehow&quot; related to that usage, whether the applications of color or the applications of words.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I.e., one wouldn&#39;t use a Coolidge poem to fetch a dozen </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111826621805261936'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111826621805261936'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html?showComment=1118266200000#c111826621805261936' title=''/><author><name>Thomas Basbøll</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04858865501469168339</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111739629193721929' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111739629193721929' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1754536893"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 08, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111826203864534722</id><published>2005-06-08T16:20:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-08T16:20:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Thomas,Yes, but wouldn&#39;t one use a realistic drawi...</title><summary type='text'>Thomas,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Yes, but wouldn&#39;t one use a realistic drawing to show someone where the train station is and not an abstract drawing? I&#39;m assuming of course that both parties are intent on actually finding the train station. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I&#39;m only playing devil&#39;s advocate here. I love Coolidge&#39;s work (moreso than the painting of Pollock). I&#39;ve often wondered how it is that so many refuse to enter a </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111826203864534722'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111826203864534722'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html?showComment=1118262000000#c111826203864534722' title=''/><author><name>incredulass</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16890154204998918984</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111739629193721929' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111739629193721929' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-286548612"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 08, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111824779767807478</id><published>2005-06-08T12:23:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-08T12:23:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Oh, good God.  I thought it was funny when someone...</title><summary type='text'>Oh, good God.  I thought it was funny when someone insisted that he preferred a physical relationship with a poem (and congratulated myself on my restraint), or when the post avant was alleged to have had, perhaps, its origins in the songs or whatever that the troubadours whispered ONLY TO EACH OTHER.  Funnier yet was the allusion to the remarkable validations obtained in the Maximum Security </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111824779767807478'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111824779767807478'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html?showComment=1118247780000#c111824779767807478' title=''/><author><name>Lon Silliman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05557544995428892686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111739629193721929' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111739629193721929' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1747027750"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 08, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111823205465216182</id><published>2005-06-08T08:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-08T08:00:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Has there never been a fruitless avenue for art to...</title><summary type='text'>Has there never been a fruitless avenue for art to travel down? Or is resistance analytically wrong?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Instead of yet again the same analogies (they laughed at Einstein!), Tony, why not participate as an equal in the discussion?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111823205465216182'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111823205465216182'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html?showComment=1118232000000#c111823205465216182' title=''/><author><name>Simon</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03035545713190516583</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111739629193721929' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111739629193721929' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1104587410"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 08, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111822715165529025</id><published>2005-06-08T06:39:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-08T06:39:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I&#39;m reading this blog &amp; the comments after it &amp; th...</title><summary type='text'>I&#39;m reading this blog &amp; the comments after it &amp; thinking we&#39;ve been here before for at least a hundred years. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;De Kooning says, it&#39;s very small, content.&quot; So Clark Coolidge notes in &#39;Smithsonian Depositions&#39;. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But the move to accept that state of affairs in European/US arts from 1890s to now still meets the same blind resistance now as then. Attempts to encourage that move can </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111822715165529025'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111822715165529025'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html?showComment=1118227140000#c111822715165529025' title=''/><author><name>Tony Green</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13492210498538450577</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111739629193721929' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111739629193721929' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-870372789"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 08, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111820354030142733</id><published>2005-06-08T00:05:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-08T00:05:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The Anonymous Brigham Young.You got my point preci...</title><summary type='text'>The Anonymous Brigham Young.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You got my point precisely...about what is and isn&#39;t &quot;conservative.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It sounds like we&#39;ll have alot to speak about when I get to Tuscaloosa.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;-jez</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111820354030142733'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111820354030142733'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html?showComment=1118203500000#c111820354030142733' title=''/><author><name>Jehza</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09527708835511076143</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111739629193721929' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111739629193721929' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-355639647"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 08, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111820040661263377</id><published>2005-06-07T23:13:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-07T23:13:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>coming in after the elephant part of the circus bu...</title><summary type='text'>coming in after the elephant part of the circus but nevertheless-&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;even in tiny snippets i can hear it&#39;s a delightful poem--what the &quot;workshop poet mentality&quot; misses is a sense of poetry as SERIOUS play.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;(&amp; i won&#39;t say again that it&#39;s a historical mystery why so many TONEDEAF people today think poetry has something for them or they something for poetry--.)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;but the real </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111820040661263377'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111820040661263377'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html?showComment=1118200380000#c111820040661263377' title=''/><author><name>michael</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00975839075714035618</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111739629193721929' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111739629193721929' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1405243351"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 07, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111819641523159945</id><published>2005-06-07T22:06:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-07T22:06:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Furthermore, not enjoying music must be far more d...</title><summary type='text'>Furthermore, not enjoying music must be far more detrimental to the human body than smoking marijuana. It is also a fact that intoxicating substances have aided some of our greatest writers.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111819641523159945'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111819641523159945'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html?showComment=1118196360000#c111819641523159945' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous Brigham Young</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08184908956758089476</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111739629193721929' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111739629193721929' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-835717142"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 07, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111819635978317697</id><published>2005-06-07T22:05:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-07T22:05:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I wrote a long post on various paradigms from whic...</title><summary type='text'>I wrote a long post on various paradigms from which one might consider coolidge&#39;s work, but blogger ate it.  No time to redo, and I reckon this discussion is getting vitiated.  This is just a test post to see if I can indeed post comments now.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Indulge me.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111819635978317697'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111819635978317697'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html?showComment=1118196300000#c111819635978317697' title=''/><author><name>Nada</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01448534316756256503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111739629193721929' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111739629193721929' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1564832188"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 07, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111819501037960692</id><published>2005-06-07T21:43:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-07T21:43:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I find Coolidge&#39;s stuff to be far more torqued to ...</title><summary type='text'>I find Coolidge&#39;s stuff to be far more torqued to resist &quot;transparency&quot; and provide that mental &quot;burn&quot; Silliman described several posts back, and organized by sound and rhythm than reading a box of crayons. There&#39;s clearly artifice present, but far heavier on the non-rational, non-semantic properties of the words. It isn&#39;t quite sound poetry, but it seems to me Coolidge&#39;s stuff shares many </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111819501037960692'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111819501037960692'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html?showComment=1118194980000#c111819501037960692' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous Brigham Young</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08184908956758089476</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111739629193721929' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111739629193721929' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-835717142"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 07, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111819377747493925</id><published>2005-06-07T21:22:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-07T21:22:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I didn&#39;t know neocons wrote or even read poetry. I...</title><summary type='text'>I didn&#39;t know neocons wrote or even read poetry. I thought they were too busy running think tanks and dictating American foreign policy.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Anyway, I translated the following:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;a bolt&lt;BR/&gt;then of which&lt;BR/&gt;when thus of so what then&lt;BR/&gt;now so&lt;BR/&gt;then such as then how&lt;BR/&gt;do&lt;BR/&gt;a then this&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;as follows:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Dividing the number of humps by the number of carbon atoms in </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111819377747493925'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111819377747493925'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html?showComment=1118193720000#c111819377747493925' title=''/><author><name>Michael Harold</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11165160971360124629</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111739629193721929' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111739629193721929' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-626236699"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 07, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111818629308084983</id><published>2005-06-07T19:18:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-07T19:18:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Larry,Simon and I were talking about that earlier,...</title><summary type='text'>Larry,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Simon and I were talking about that earlier, and I think I convinced him that the similarities between painting and writing (color arrangements and words arrangements) are more striking than the differences.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Your example is a good challenge. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;One might well use a drawing to show someone where the train station is.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111818629308084983'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111818629308084983'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html?showComment=1118186280000#c111818629308084983' title=''/><author><name>Thomas Basbøll</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04858865501469168339</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111739629193721929' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111739629193721929' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1754536893"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 07, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111817448613205558</id><published>2005-06-07T16:01:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-07T16:01:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis is in Scotland for a few weeks, the lucky d...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis is in Scotland for a few weeks, the lucky dog.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111817448613205558'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111817448613205558'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html?showComment=1118174460000#c111817448613205558' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111739629193721929' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111739629193721929' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 07, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111817230762185704</id><published>2005-06-07T15:25:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-07T15:25:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis Faville used to raise the bar in the commen...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis Faville used to raise the bar in the comments section.  What&#39;s happened to him lately?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I often disagreed but it was at the very least a good discussion.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I demand the return of Curtis Faville!</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111817230762185704'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111817230762185704'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html?showComment=1118172300000#c111817230762185704' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111739629193721929' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111739629193721929' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 07, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111816824302463322</id><published>2005-06-07T14:17:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-07T14:17:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Re: &quot;who would not automatically do with a text wh...</title><summary type='text'>Re: &quot;who would not automatically do with a text what I would anticipate and expect them to do if they were confront[ed] similarly by, say, a painting of Jackson Pollock&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Looking at a painting by Pollock and reading a Clark Coolidge poem are so different because the visual and the verbal are so different. Of course, one could argue that the written word is visual, as well,(e.g., concrete </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111816824302463322'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111816824302463322'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html?showComment=1118168220000#c111816824302463322' title=''/><author><name>incredulass</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16890154204998918984</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111739629193721929' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111739629193721929' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-286548612"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 07, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111815943090985318</id><published>2005-06-07T11:50:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-07T11:50:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;Neo-Con&quot;  What a sh*tty day in the comments secti...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;Neo-Con&quot;  &lt;BR/&gt;What a sh*tty day in the comments section.&lt;BR/&gt;I&#39;m gonna go home and read Lowell, and Eliot, and Pound...&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;and every conservative word I can find.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;One definition: &quot;Conservative a.: Tending or disposed to maintain existing institutions; opposed to change or innovation.&quot;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111815943090985318'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111815943090985318'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html?showComment=1118159400000#c111815943090985318' title=''/><author><name>Jehza</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09527708835511076143</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111739629193721929' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111739629193721929' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-355639647"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 07, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111815324467643816</id><published>2005-06-07T10:07:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-07T10:07:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>tmorange, when I read your comments my heart &quot;sunk...</title><summary type='text'>tmorange, when I read your comments my heart &quot;sunk&quot;: &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;this is i think what ron is getting at when he talks about beginning with the words you have in front of you. there&#39;s the story (i think fred moramarco tells it) of ashbery coming to a college class and the students had read his poem &quot;leaving the atocha station&quot; which begins with the line &quot;the arctic honey blabbed over the report </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111815324467643816'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111815324467643816'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html?showComment=1118153220000#c111815324467643816' title=''/><author><name>Joan Houlihan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01187571693050255160</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111739629193721929' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111739629193721929' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1466067394"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 07, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111814586798308021</id><published>2005-06-07T08:04:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-07T08:04:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Please do not read Clark Coolidge.  Instead, do a ...</title><summary type='text'>Please do not read Clark Coolidge.  Instead, do a crossword puzzle the same way -- use any words you like.  Now -- don&#39;t you feel more enlightened and less of a neo con?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Or make many happy slant rhymes with words!  The challenge -- use any words whatsoever,  yes any, make them up if they are not there.  Now congratulate yourself on your difficult task -- unconstrained by sense and having</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111814586798308021'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111814586798308021'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html?showComment=1118145840000#c111814586798308021' title=''/><author><name>Lon Silliman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05557544995428892686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111739629193721929' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111739629193721929' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1747027750"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 07, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111814363962643950</id><published>2005-06-07T07:27:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-07T07:27:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Folks,I hope that by now, everyone has grown tired...</title><summary type='text'>Folks,&lt;BR/&gt;I hope that by now, everyone has grown tired of trying to convince me to read Clark Coolidge and love him. I&#39;m tired of the issue. I&#39;m tired of the bombardment of personal email over this blog. I&#39;m finished with the subject. I&#39;ve heard all. Absorbed all. My body is oozing on overload from all the information that&#39;s come my way in the past 24 hours.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And just on a personal note,</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111814363962643950'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111814363962643950'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html?showComment=1118143620000#c111814363962643950' title=''/><author><name>Pris</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03970753027686923295</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111739629193721929' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111739629193721929' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-2102071197"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 07, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111813327861781157</id><published>2005-06-07T04:34:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-07T04:34:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Thank you for bringing sanity to this page Tom.I w...</title><summary type='text'>Thank you for bringing sanity to this page Tom.&lt;BR/&gt;I was getting quite distressed at the small mindednesses.&lt;BR/&gt;Funny how that Neo-Con mentality gets everywhere.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;What I love about Coolidge is the same as what I love about Ron Silliman: their infectious passion &amp; enthusiasm for delving the unknown. Their big hearts.&lt;BR/&gt;It&#39;s not their fault that most people are to busy to notice them or</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111813327861781157'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111813327861781157'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html?showComment=1118133240000#c111813327861781157' title=''/><author><name>stefen</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05855987428686809866</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111739629193721929' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111739629193721929' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-543969392"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 07, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111812843205617134</id><published>2005-06-07T03:13:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-07T03:13:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>stefen: there&#39;s probably at least twice as much un...</title><summary type='text'>stefen: there&#39;s probably at least twice as much unpublished coolidge material as there is published. a collected would indeed be an enormous and marvelous multivoume set!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;pris: i&#39;d encourage you to have a look at some of the other selections on the EPC pages. for example the work from own face and the crystal text are about as close to traditional lyric poetry as coolidge gets, while </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111812843205617134'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111812843205617134'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html?showComment=1118128380000#c111812843205617134' title=''/><author><name>tmorange</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13540323590390887131</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' 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to -- my initial work on the EPC pages.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;more to follow,&lt;BR/&gt;tom orange</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111812389810458588'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111739629193721929/comments/default/111812389810458588'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clark-coolidge-capital-punishment-are.html?showComment=1118123880000#c111812389810458588' title=''/><author><name>tmorange</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13540323590390887131</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' 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