<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post111993354513464469..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>30</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112044719124179204</id><published>2005-07-03T23:19:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-07-03T23:19:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Kirby,there is and has been an enormous anti-arab ...</title><summary type='text'>Kirby,there is and has been an enormous anti-arab &amp; anti-muslim consensus in europe for the last fifteen years or so, I don&#39;t find it particularly brave to tap into that, I call it antisemitism. As for the murder of Olof Palme, everyone seems to have a different theory, the official one is that it was a lone, confused drunk. It will probably be at least fifty years utnil we learn anything of </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112044719124179204'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112044719124179204'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html?showComment=1120447140000#c112044719124179204' title=''/><author><name>Lars Palm</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/18014279624033048950</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111993354513464469' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111993354513464469' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1490930370"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="July 03, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112031860487209080</id><published>2005-07-02T11:36:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-07-02T11:36:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Lars, it&#39;s just that Oriana Fallaci is one of the ...</title><summary type='text'>Lars, it&#39;s just that Oriana Fallaci is one of the few women who says exactly what she thinks.  I think that&#39;s where the poetry is -- standing alone and saying what you think instead of being a sheep or a cow and going along with the herd.  Besides, Fallaci&#39;s book was #1 in Europe so she must have connected with a great number of European people.  Even in Sweden after the Olaf Palmer murder you </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112031860487209080'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112031860487209080'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html?showComment=1120318560000#c112031860487209080' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111993354513464469' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111993354513464469' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="July 02, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112031239713136295</id><published>2005-07-02T09:53:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-07-02T09:53:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Jonathan:  Arguments are okay.  If you think I&#39;ve ...</title><summary type='text'>Jonathan:  Arguments are okay.  If you think I&#39;ve stepped over the line, have at me.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I&#39;m with the ladies on this issue of privilege and equal opportunity.  Just as a principle, you understand.  I&#39;m not a knee-jerk liberal looking for historically disadvantaged groups to save.  The battle&#39;s far from being over, yet.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Look at how women are treated in popular music--&quot;You ho&#39;s get </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112031239713136295'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112031239713136295'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html?showComment=1120312380000#c112031239713136295' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111993354513464469' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111993354513464469' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="July 02, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112031209302749925</id><published>2005-07-02T09:48:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-07-02T09:48:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Two things for now.Kirby, beware of Oriana Fallaci...</title><summary type='text'>Two things for now.&lt;BR/&gt;Kirby, beware of Oriana Fallaci, from my perspective she reads like Fox News and the Klan rolled into one, not surprisingly her crusade since september of 2001 has been for the complete annihilation of arabs and muslims. &lt;BR/&gt;Curtis and Jonathan, shouldn&#39;t we give the poor serious male poets a chance to have a little more fun with poetry? I&#39;m sure they could do it</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112031209302749925'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112031209302749925'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html?showComment=1120312080000#c112031209302749925' title=''/><author><name>Lars Palm</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/18014279624033048950</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111993354513464469' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111993354513464469' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1490930370"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="July 02, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112029576129743205</id><published>2005-07-02T05:16:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-07-02T05:16:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I liked the poem very much. I think it&#39;s great tha...</title><summary type='text'>I liked the poem very much. I think it&#39;s great that Ron has written on it.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I read Schema and was fascinated -and stranged- by it. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I look forward to reading Hounds soon.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112029576129743205'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112029576129743205'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html?showComment=1120295760000#c112029576129743205' title=''/><author><name>Ernesto</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11969105712582566329</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111993354513464469' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111993354513464469' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-987189629"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="July 02, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112027445083544137</id><published>2005-07-01T23:20:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-07-01T23:20:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Just a little disagreement among friends.  If you ...</title><summary type='text'>Just a little disagreement among friends.  If you couldn&#39;t have an argument once in a while, what would be the point of Silliman&#39;s comment boxes?  I&#39;m sure Curtis didn&#39;t mean to be patronizing; it just sounded like that to me.  If I&#39;m the tone-deaf one here I am sorry.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112027445083544137'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112027445083544137'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html?showComment=1120274400000#c112027445083544137' title=''/><author><name>Jonathan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09371893596402673898</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111993354513464469' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111993354513464469' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1218785319"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="July 01, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112027117968958785</id><published>2005-07-01T22:26:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-07-01T22:26:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>If this was my house, Mr., Silliman, I&#39;d tell them...</title><summary type='text'>If this was my house, Mr., Silliman, I&#39;d tell them to take it outside. There&#39;s plenty of room for them to fight on the front lawn.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112027117968958785'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112027117968958785'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html?showComment=1120271160000#c112027117968958785' title=''/><author><name>Brennen Wysong</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04182047699243623857</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111993354513464469' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111993354513464469' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-68184959"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="July 01, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112026982575903715</id><published>2005-07-01T22:03:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-07-01T22:03:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;They deserve a chance to see what they can do.&quot;  ...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;They deserve a chance to see what they can do.&quot;  That sure sounds condescending to me!  it&#39;s patronizing in tone.  That&#39;s how it sounds to me, at least, because they are already doing it; they&#39;ve already done it.  It&#39;s not like it&#39;s an open question.  &quot;Gee, can women write poetry or not, let&#39;s give them a chance and see if they can cut it.&quot;  It&#39;s just ridiculous to think like that.  I&#39;ll give </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112026982575903715'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112026982575903715'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html?showComment=1120269780000#c112026982575903715' title=''/><author><name>Jonathan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09371893596402673898</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111993354513464469' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111993354513464469' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1218785319"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="July 01, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112026803021642117</id><published>2005-07-01T21:33:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-07-01T21:33:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Gosh, Jonathan, &quot;condescension&quot;?  That seems like ...</title><summary type='text'>Gosh, Jonathan, &quot;condescension&quot;?  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;That seems like a false irony to me.  Tell it to the Feminists.  They do have a point, wouldn&#39;t you say?  Or are you a new Turk who thinks feminism is bullshit, let the bitches pull their weight?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I hate PC opinions as much as anyone.  In my personal opinion, your attitude about my &quot;condescending&quot; is about as PC as one can get.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Got&#39;ya</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112026803021642117'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112026803021642117'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html?showComment=1120267980000#c112026803021642117' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111993354513464469' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111993354513464469' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="July 01, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112026680747537492</id><published>2005-07-01T21:13:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-07-01T21:13:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Do you know even know the difference between China...</title><summary type='text'>Do you know even know the difference between China and Japan?  Sei Shonagon was Japanese, not Chinese.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It should be unremarkable that someone talks about a woman or a man&#39;s poetry.  Why are only women poets suspect?  I&#39;d say in this day and age the chances of any given poet being good are roughly equal, whatever the gender of the poet.  And Curtis with his &quot;encourage the ladies&quot; </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112026680747537492'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112026680747537492'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html?showComment=1120266780000#c112026680747537492' title=''/><author><name>Jonathan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09371893596402673898</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111993354513464469' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111993354513464469' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1218785319"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="July 01, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112025573129301741</id><published>2005-07-01T18:08:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-07-01T18:08:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I think that there were good women poets.  Sappho....</title><summary type='text'>I think that there were good women poets.  Sappho.  Some of the Chinese women such as Sei Shonagin (spelling?) -- maybe not a poet but she might as well be.  Very few people can write poetry.  Out of the Beats I&#39;d say only Corso was writing poetry that will last.  Very few ever do write one good poem and I think Corso wrote at least a dozen.  And yet Emily Dickinson was certainly doing it  (corso</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112025573129301741'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112025573129301741'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html?showComment=1120255680000#c112025573129301741' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111993354513464469' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111993354513464469' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="July 01, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112024946205255686</id><published>2005-07-01T16:24:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-07-01T16:24:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis You are right. Women and men are different....</title><summary type='text'>Curtis &lt;BR/&gt;You are right. Women and men are different. But women DO have the opportunity to see what they can do. If they’re not doing it, it’s not necessarily because they are woman. Perhaps just because they can not. I suppose I&#39;m rather spoiled in the sense that I&#39;ve never had to &quot;suffer&quot; as a woman. I often don&#39;t understand how being female or talking about female/femininity requires a </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112024946205255686'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112024946205255686'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html?showComment=1120249440000#c112024946205255686' title=''/><author><name>J. Watson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12672899200810079557</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111993354513464469' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111993354513464469' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-124579531"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="July 01, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112024541036207278</id><published>2005-07-01T15:16:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-07-01T15:16:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>KirbyThe passage I quoted was brief because althou...</title><summary type='text'>Kirby&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The passage I quoted was brief because although it&#39;s fun writing long comments, it&#39;s not always as fun reading them. But here goes. What he did was examine the concept of political correctness to see if there is anything substantial behind the term and how a scandinavian interpretation of it differs from the american one. He also examines those who excel at being politically </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112024541036207278'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112024541036207278'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html?showComment=1120245360000#c112024541036207278' title=''/><author><name>Lars Palm</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/18014279624033048950</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111993354513464469' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111993354513464469' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1490930370"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="July 01, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112024217050066363</id><published>2005-07-01T14:22:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-07-01T14:22:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>J.watson:Potching is not my style.  Try Italy--the...</title><summary type='text'>J.watson:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Potching is not my style.  Try Italy--they&#39;re fairly brazen there, and take their women&#39;s sex lives for granted.  Maybe we should do that here, too?  Quite un-PC, but iconoclastic, as Kirby would say.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Kirby: I&#39;m not trying to save Alli&#39;s poetry by saying she deserves our encouragement because she&#39;s a woman.  I&#39;m saying that because for 2000 years, we&#39;ve had very few </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112024217050066363'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112024217050066363'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html?showComment=1120242120000#c112024217050066363' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111993354513464469' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111993354513464469' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="July 01, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112023971806897654</id><published>2005-07-01T13:41:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-07-01T13:41:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>IF a woman didn&#39;t want here image to be a part of ...</title><summary type='text'>IF a woman didn&#39;t want here image to be a part of her work she would not include it. Part of our poetic makeup (not the L&#39;oreal type) is our, or because of our physical makeup. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt; &quot;it&#39;s time to pat the women on the back again&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;hehe! I&#39;d have to ask for mine on the rounded end, not too hard, just a light sting to let me know you care.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112023971806897654'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112023971806897654'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html?showComment=1120239660000#c112023971806897654' title=''/><author><name>J. Watson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12672899200810079557</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111993354513464469' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111993354513464469' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-124579531"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="July 01, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112023686330938489</id><published>2005-07-01T12:54:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-07-01T12:54:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Lars yes that nails it.  The problem is that I&#39;m n...</title><summary type='text'>Lars yes that nails it.  The problem is that I&#39;m nearing 50 and have seen these movements come and go in the US. For instance the dastardly hippies where you simply had to have long hair and wear blue jeans, and presto, you are in like Flynn, and could sleep with any hippie girl you liked.  Then in the 70s the politically correct thing began to form in which you had to have the same opinions as </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112023686330938489'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112023686330938489'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html?showComment=1120236840000#c112023686330938489' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111993354513464469' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111993354513464469' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="July 01, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112023248969536285</id><published>2005-07-01T11:41:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-07-01T11:41:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I&#39;ll just quote a passage from an article/essay I ...</title><summary type='text'>I&#39;ll just quote a passage from an article/essay I translated from the norwegian for a swedish magazine, my English translation is done in the spur of the moment, but accurate enough. It was written this spring by Tomas Hylland Eriksen, a cool anarchist professor of anthropology at Oslo University. Maybe Kirby could enjoy this:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;As with much of today&#39;s thought, the concept comes from the </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112023248969536285'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112023248969536285'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html?showComment=1120232460000#c112023248969536285' title=''/><author><name>Lars Palm</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/18014279624033048950</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111993354513464469' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111993354513464469' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1490930370"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="July 01, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112022721996795842</id><published>2005-07-01T10:13:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-07-01T10:13:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>lady poets. jeez.</title><summary type='text'>lady poets. jeez.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112022721996795842'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112022721996795842'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html?showComment=1120227180000#c112022721996795842' title=''/><author><name>shanna</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17706867356078179503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111993354513464469' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111993354513464469' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-927990281"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="July 01, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112022619812560067</id><published>2005-07-01T09:56:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-07-01T09:56:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Kirby, my point isn&#39;t at all sexist, aside from my...</title><summary type='text'>Kirby, my point isn&#39;t at all sexist, aside from my joke about Ron--is he more indulgent with lady poets than with men?  That was really all I was getting at.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Moore has always been a favorite of mine.  But I don&#39;t think it&#39;s fair to characterize her as a conservative, just because, towards the end of a long life, she found herself on the Republican side of the aisle.  It&#39;s that lady </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112022619812560067'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112022619812560067'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html?showComment=1120226160000#c112022619812560067' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111993354513464469' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111993354513464469' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="July 01, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112021827622010998</id><published>2005-07-01T07:44:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-07-01T07:44:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis, Your characterization of the style in your...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis, &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Your characterization of the style in your second paragraph is closer to what I&#39;d think.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I think the problem with women poets is that men can&#39;t criticize them and neither can women.  It&#39;s just one more thing that the feminist movement did perhaps inadvertantly.  If men criticize them -- or even fail to praise them effusively and at the limits of all reason -- they are </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112021827622010998'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112021827622010998'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html?showComment=1120218240000#c112021827622010998' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111993354513464469' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111993354513464469' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="July 01, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112018987803634110</id><published>2005-06-30T23:51:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-30T23:51:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Vis a vis the Coolidge discussion, you must take a...</title><summary type='text'>Vis a vis the Coolidge discussion, you must take a look at the &quot;tribute&quot; web del sol has posted. It&#39;s a scream.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;www.webdelsol.com</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112018987803634110'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112018987803634110'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html?showComment=1120189860000#c112018987803634110' title=''/><author><name>robert</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11000378089112726012</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111993354513464469' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111993354513464469' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1410024344"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 30, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112017693726533077</id><published>2005-06-30T20:15:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-30T20:15:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The old grumps are still harping on author photos!...</title><summary type='text'>The old grumps are still harping on author photos!</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112017693726533077'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112017693726533077'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html?showComment=1120176900000#c112017693726533077' title=''/><author><name>Tony Tost</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15765857872778493229</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111993354513464469' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111993354513464469' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1599768463"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 30, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112017457179181163</id><published>2005-06-30T19:36:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-30T19:36:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I think Ron has a fetish for lady poets.  I think ...</title><summary type='text'>I think Ron has a fetish for lady poets.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I think with Ms. Warren we have a style that is better characterized as &quot;fragmented&quot; or &quot;atomized&quot; or &quot;disjunctive&quot; or &quot;by chance&quot; or &quot;non-syntactic&quot; or &quot;exploring the outer limits of meaning&quot; etc., etc.  Take your pick.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I wish someone would come along and write another book like Ashbery&#39;s Tennis Court Oath, i.e., someone who could </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112017457179181163'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112017457179181163'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html?showComment=1120174560000#c112017457179181163' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111993354513464469' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111993354513464469' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 30, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112016991041991962</id><published>2005-06-30T18:18:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-30T18:18:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Well, Ron, could you parse it?  I&#39;m slow.  No, not...</title><summary type='text'>Well, Ron, could you parse it?  I&#39;m slow.  No, not parse it, but you know, explicate it.  Or paraphrase it.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Is it an argument for something?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Unitarianism?  Geez.  Is somebody Unitarian?  I thought the Unitarians believed in reason.  I sometimes think you guys here in the poetry world might just as well use telepathy as phones or words.  These words to me are completely opaque </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112016991041991962'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112016991041991962'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html?showComment=1120169880000#c112016991041991962' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111993354513464469' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111993354513464469' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 30, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112015897514409454</id><published>2005-06-30T15:16:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-06-30T15:16:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;Your imagination&quot; is what I meant there. Ron</title><summary type='text'>&quot;Your imagination&quot; is what I meant there. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ron</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112015897514409454'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/111993354513464469/comments/default/112015897514409454'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html?showComment=1120158960000#c112015897514409454' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/06/alli-warren-shes-one-of-those-poets.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-111993354513464469' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/111993354513464469' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 30, 2005"/></entry></feed>