<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post112921166097446324..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>47</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112965252523485953</id><published>2005-10-18T12:22:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-18T12:22:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>However, I do get out there and may be out Carmel ...</title><summary type='text'>However, I do get out there and may be out Carmel way and would be delighted and will have my people contact your people.  I will visit Carmel and sit at Nepenthe and stare out at the sea wondering why -- since I once lived near Hawk Tower -- I left to go to Texas and then ended up here in Minnesota.  An offer of coffee in San Francisco to chat about poetry is more than a Midwesterner deserves </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112965252523485953'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112965252523485953'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html?showComment=1129652520000#c112965252523485953' title=''/><author><name>Lon Silliman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05557544995428892686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112921166097446324' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112921166097446324' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1747027750"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 18, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112960341905103836</id><published>2005-10-17T22:43:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-17T22:43:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Lon:We shall have to continue this exchange elsewh...</title><summary type='text'>Lon:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;We shall have to continue this exchange elsewhere.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Maybe over coffee, except I&#39;m in the Bay Area, and you&#39;re almost certainly at least 1000 miles away.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ah, well.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112960341905103836'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112960341905103836'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html?showComment=1129603380000#c112960341905103836' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112921166097446324' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112921166097446324' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112956757752996140</id><published>2005-10-17T12:46:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-17T12:46:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>And here http://www.argotistonline.co.uk/Nikolayev...</title><summary type='text'>And here &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;http://www.argotistonline.co.uk/Nikolayev%20interview.htm&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;you can find an interview that expresses my views on poetry.  Better than I could.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;God bless us all.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112956757752996140'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112956757752996140'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html?showComment=1129567560000#c112956757752996140' title=''/><author><name>Lon Silliman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05557544995428892686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112921166097446324' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112921166097446324' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1747027750"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112956652630497252</id><published>2005-10-17T12:28:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-17T12:28:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Dear CurtisActually the same this and thats you fi...</title><summary type='text'>Dear Curtis&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Actually the same this and thats you find annoying in Merwin in general are what I find annoying in much verse in general.  But the poem cited avoids this and that and, since I think, writing a good poem is a rare event, I will recognize this poem.  But, yes -- quietists of all sort abound and especialy in the SOQ.  Outside the SOQ also as we have poem after poem about poems </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112956652630497252'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112956652630497252'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html?showComment=1129566480000#c112956652630497252' title=''/><author><name>Lon Silliman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05557544995428892686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112921166097446324' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112921166097446324' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1747027750"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112956589201840497</id><published>2005-10-17T12:18:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-17T12:18:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I now agree with you completely.  For I have had a...</title><summary type='text'>I now agree with you completely.  For I have had a vision.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;We should end like this.  I am writing the true account of the final defeat of the Psst Avant.  This scene come somewhat towards the end.  The scene – the Mississippi Delta.  The time – the Time of the Last Battle. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Portals were snapping open as the remnants of the Thousand poured through the gates.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Blood </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112956589201840497'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112956589201840497'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html?showComment=1129565880000#c112956589201840497' title=''/><author><name>Lon Silliman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05557544995428892686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112921166097446324' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112921166097446324' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1747027750"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112956396562984764</id><published>2005-10-17T11:46:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-17T11:46:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>At any rate, I&#39;ve discovered via an anonymous tip,...</title><summary type='text'>At any rate, I&#39;ve discovered via an anonymous tip, that the National Book Award doesn&#39;t have any of its own money.  So the presses send in books, and the NBA chooses the books, and then the PUBLISHERS themselves have to pony up ten grand (or one grand in the case of an honorable mention).  Since few if any small press publishers have ten grand to drop on an author, they don&#39;t enter the fray, and </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112956396562984764'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112956396562984764'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html?showComment=1129563960000#c112956396562984764' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112921166097446324' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112921166097446324' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112955631933408208</id><published>2005-10-17T09:38:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-17T09:38:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Well, Lon, Lawrence Ferlin has used his &quot;poetic ca...</title><summary type='text'>Well, Lon, Lawrence Ferlin has used his &quot;poetic capital&quot; to turn well-meant concern and literary interest (and money in the public trough), into personal gain.  He&#39;s a bathetic little cottage industry unto himself for fifty years, on the strength of who he knows.  He&#39;s a con man.  Except he isn&#39;t intelligent, doesn&#39;t have high standards, etc.  Jonathan Williams, who has a conscience about these </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112955631933408208'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112955631933408208'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html?showComment=1129556280000#c112955631933408208' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112921166097446324' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112921166097446324' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112955048750660721</id><published>2005-10-17T08:01:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-17T08:01:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Lilic, Ron has a list of names of all SOQ poets bu...</title><summary type='text'>Lilic, Ron has a list of names of all SOQ poets but he won&#39;t show it to us.  He is waiting for that interview by Edward R Murrow.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112955048750660721'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112955048750660721'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html?showComment=1129550460000#c112955048750660721' title=''/><author><name>Lon Silliman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05557544995428892686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112921166097446324' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112921166097446324' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1747027750"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112955038905992527</id><published>2005-10-17T07:59:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-17T07:59:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Yes, the big story is the comeback of Landis Evers...</title><summary type='text'>Yes, the big story is the comeback of Landis Everson, the grace of Ben Mazer and all this escaping the Usual.  Read about it in today&#39;s NYTimes.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112955038905992527'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112955038905992527'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html?showComment=1129550340000#c112955038905992527' title=''/><author><name>Lon Silliman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05557544995428892686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112921166097446324' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112921166097446324' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1747027750"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112954961956390243</id><published>2005-10-17T07:46:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-17T07:46:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Yes one is often left a bit speechless by lon.  An...</title><summary type='text'>Yes one is often left a bit speechless by lon.  And Ron.  Yes Waste Land is one word but many say Wasteland and dogsbody is one word but people keep insisting that it is two.  Damn.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You know what I think?  I think I have no idea what the SoQ is and would really appreciate some sort of criteria but then again I realize that is probably the reason the SoQ exists!  This war between 1 and </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112954961956390243'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112954961956390243'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html?showComment=1129549560000#c112954961956390243' title=''/><author><name>Lady Jane</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04555982712708881025</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112921166097446324' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112921166097446324' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1542572767"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112952152489601617</id><published>2005-10-16T23:58:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-16T23:58:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Reading this line of comments makes me feel very s...</title><summary type='text'>Reading this line of comments makes me feel very strange.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112952152489601617'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112952152489601617'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html?showComment=1129521480000#c112952152489601617' title=''/><author><name>Brett</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09958984151677722851</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112921166097446324' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112921166097446324' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1222757787"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 16, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112951968348024321</id><published>2005-10-16T23:28:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-16T23:28:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Shocking.</title><summary type='text'>Shocking.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112951968348024321'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112951968348024321'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html?showComment=1129519680000#c112951968348024321' title=''/><author><name>Lady Jane</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04555982712708881025</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112921166097446324' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112921166097446324' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1542572767"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 16, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112951944690445425</id><published>2005-10-16T23:24:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-16T23:24:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Hey guys.  New to blogging, but the cyber-battles ...</title><summary type='text'>Hey guys.  New to blogging, but the cyber-battles make me weary.  Yeah, I know, I don&#39;t HAVE to read them.  Still, while typing in &quot;poetry blog&quot;, what I have mainly seen are endless discussions about the merits, or lack thereof, of established and ancient poetic heroes.  I&#39;m not knocking them, but where are the fresh voices?  Rather than hash out how we feel about one or the other of these </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112951944690445425'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112951944690445425'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html?showComment=1129519440000#c112951944690445425' title=''/><author><name>Denel</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11310232679068733562</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112921166097446324' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112921166097446324' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-12934757"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 16, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112951844820575372</id><published>2005-10-16T23:07:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-16T23:07:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Funny, I remembered the first line as &quot;Ich vermiss...</title><summary type='text'>Funny, I remembered the first line as &quot;Ich vermisse Helen Vendler.&quot; And the last line, &quot;large flat feet.&quot; But otherwise, yes. The trampling, the schwartze Verwesung, all such. Bad arras ears, no doubt.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112951844820575372'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112951844820575372'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html?showComment=1129518420000#c112951844820575372' title=''/><author><name>Kirk Johnson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05529898733002317995</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112921166097446324' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112921166097446324' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-895736745"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 16, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112951565222103025</id><published>2005-10-16T22:20:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-16T22:20:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Still, I can dream.  No duel.  But in another worl...</title><summary type='text'>Still, I can dream.  No duel.  But in another world?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I had just come back to Castle Elsinore… I admit that I did feel somewhat disoriented. I was in front of the arras -- the vulgar one Keats had installed -- and for an instant I thought it was Polonious who was (I saw his feet) hiding behind them. I put my hand on my sword. Perhaps I&#39;d take a poke at him and get him out of there... and </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112951565222103025'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112951565222103025'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html?showComment=1129515600000#c112951565222103025' title=''/><author><name>Lon Silliman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05557544995428892686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112921166097446324' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112921166097446324' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1747027750"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 16, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112951493104445056</id><published>2005-10-16T22:08:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-16T22:08:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I miss Helen Vendler.</title><summary type='text'>I miss Helen Vendler.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112951493104445056'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112951493104445056'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html?showComment=1129514880000#c112951493104445056' title=''/><author><name>Lon Silliman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05557544995428892686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112921166097446324' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112921166097446324' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1747027750"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 16, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112949781733756526</id><published>2005-10-16T17:23:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-16T17:23:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>My money&#39;s on Bidart!  CAMBRIDGE IN THE HOUSE!LuvJ...</title><summary type='text'>My money&#39;s on Bidart!  CAMBRIDGE IN THE HOUSE!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Luv&lt;BR/&gt;Jimmy</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112949781733756526'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112949781733756526'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html?showComment=1129497780000#c112949781733756526' title=''/><author><name>Behrle, Prince of Trolls</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/02376200318127362630</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112921166097446324' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112921166097446324' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1368997688"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 16, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112949291096470621</id><published>2005-10-16T16:01:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-16T16:01:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ian,Not sure whose Spenser I meant. Perhaps Lisa R...</title><summary type='text'>Ian,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Not sure whose Spenser I meant. Perhaps Lisa Robertson&#39;s, whom I&#39;d say has the sweetest Elizabethan ear of many a generation. &quot;She sits hybrid at the Dairy Queen / Among ripe prayers and lures -- fanning Pysche&#39;s / Louche stuff -- adores calendars. Hi Psyche! / That&#39;s some kit: schools quit for its languor.&quot; I&#39;d nominate her for any prize you&#39;d name. Still kicking myself for not </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112949291096470621'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112949291096470621'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html?showComment=1129492860000#c112949291096470621' title=''/><author><name>Kirk Johnson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05529898733002317995</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112921166097446324' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112921166097446324' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-895736745"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 16, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112949285547530499</id><published>2005-10-16T16:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-16T16:00:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Dear Ian, there is no post avant boogieman really ...</title><summary type='text'>Dear Ian, there is no post avant boogieman really is there?  Is the requirement to talk of the poem specifically rather than engage in the usual politics really so dire?  I voice my disappointment.  Really.  One looked forward to a duel.  Refreshments afterwards.  Are the champions of the Pssst Avant really this defenseless?  Should be easy enough to demonstrate I am wrong. Cite the poems, show </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112949285547530499'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112949285547530499'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html?showComment=1129492800000#c112949285547530499' title=''/><author><name>Lon Silliman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05557544995428892686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112921166097446324' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112921166097446324' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1747027750"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 16, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112949075843964514</id><published>2005-10-16T15:25:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-16T15:25:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Kirk,I was generalizing overall about Joe&#39;s Geneol...</title><summary type='text'>Kirk,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I was generalizing overall about Joe&#39;s Geneology of Influences and not spreading Ben Jonson rumors about Spenser&#39;s unopen bills, but your points are well taken and I have been known to have a weakness for Ben Jonson rumors about the Pembroke boys. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;If there were a debate over whether all bequeathers of awards should be described by a single &#39;they,&#39; I would take your </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112949075843964514'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112949075843964514'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html?showComment=1129490700000#c112949075843964514' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112921166097446324' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112921166097446324' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 16, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112948926696575050</id><published>2005-10-16T15:01:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-16T15:01:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Sorry, Ron.  I suppose I saw it within a framework...</title><summary type='text'>Sorry, Ron.  I suppose I saw it within a framework that happens to be a hobbyhorse of mine, and jumped the gun.  That particular paradigm has driven me almost completely out of my mind, and when I see it I sometimes lose my customary sobriety and sanity.  But it does seem to me that you still buy the basic paradigm of diversity as being one of gender and race, as opposed to other criteria?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112948926696575050'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112948926696575050'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html?showComment=1129489260000#c112948926696575050' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112921166097446324' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112921166097446324' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 16, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112948797757085763</id><published>2005-10-16T14:39:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-16T14:39:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ecco was purchased by HarperCollins a few years ag...</title><summary type='text'>Ecco was purchased by HarperCollins a few years ago, so it&#39;s an imprint of the press, not an independent press distributed by a trade press.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112948797757085763'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112948797757085763'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html?showComment=1129487940000#c112948797757085763' title=''/><author><name>Brian</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01173753299630591496</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112921166097446324' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112921166097446324' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-205390095"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 16, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112948779786696832</id><published>2005-10-16T14:36:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-16T14:36:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Spenser, BTW, huffed and puffed for tenure. But lo...</title><summary type='text'>Spenser, BTW, huffed and puffed for tenure. But looked silly in the cheap suits of his day. Those big starched collars winged to the ears? The politics of his poems are very specific, but darkly cloaked. And he backed the wrong party, as just about all of them did. Murderous damn parties, those.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Get some scholar on the School of Postal Poets. Wordsworth, Bukowski, Ron. Throw in Hawthorne</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112948779786696832'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112948779786696832'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html?showComment=1129487760000#c112948779786696832' title=''/><author><name>Kirk Johnson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05529898733002317995</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112921166097446324' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112921166097446324' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-895736745"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 16, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112948474368741661</id><published>2005-10-16T13:45:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-16T13:45:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I did not attack the listees because they were whi...</title><summary type='text'>I did &lt;B&gt;not&lt;/B&gt; attack the listees because they were white male. I simply noted the lack of diversity. Why the hyperbole?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112948474368741661'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112948474368741661'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html?showComment=1129484700000#c112948474368741661' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112921166097446324' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112921166097446324' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 16, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112948402747965511</id><published>2005-10-16T13:33:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-16T13:33:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Montrer ses plais!!:I feel betrayed!I need rescue,...</title><summary type='text'>Montrer ses plais!!:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I feel betrayed!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I need rescue, again: caput mortuum!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I&#39;ll be reading some Nietzche until you arrive. Please Hurry!!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Someone disguised as the great Chinese citizen of Königsberg set sail toward my dingy in his great magisterial sail boat,(the S.S. Immanuel Kant, I believe though I could barely make out the writing:l&#39;art pour l&#39;art!!) and I </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112948402747965511'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/112921166097446324/comments/default/112948402747965511'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html?showComment=1129483980000#c112948402747965511' title=''/><author><name>Lighting the Lucid Lisp</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/10201267204005472679</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/is-this-years-poetry-shortlist-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-112921166097446324' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/112921166097446324' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-318219068"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 16, 2005"/></entry></feed>