<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post113019154198664888..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113019154198664888/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-other-traditions-watching-john.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>8</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113029349376042066</id><published>2005-10-25T22:24:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-25T22:24:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Sheesh...yes I found Beddoes in Beirut.  No small ...</title><summary type='text'>Sheesh...yes I found Beddoes in Beirut.  No small thing and I&#39;m glad you mentioned it because I thought maybe I was going crazy.&lt;BR/&gt;That it was stolen in the &quot;suitcase mystery&quot; along with six copies of Cold Eels strangely connected now.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The thieves were after the Beddoes!&lt;BR/&gt;and my sister thought it was the CIA.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Thank you lon, once again for explicating things.  Always a great</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113019154198664888/comments/default/113029349376042066'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113019154198664888/comments/default/113029349376042066'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-other-traditions-watching-john.html?showComment=1130293440000#c113029349376042066' title=''/><author><name>Lady Jane</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04555982712708881025</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-other-traditions-watching-john.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113019154198664888' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113019154198664888' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1542572767"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 25, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113027255970596178</id><published>2005-10-25T16:35:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-25T16:35:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>“Under the circumstances [of his work being out of...</title><summary type='text'>“Under the circumstances [of his work being out of print &amp; hard to find], it is still difficult for readers of poetry to know whether or not the case [of Thomas Love Beddoes] represents a significant ‘adjunct to the muses’ diadem.’”&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And Ashbery was completely wrong about this.  Beddoes’ work was available and still is.  He had 15 or so closely printed pages (maybe) in the most used </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113019154198664888/comments/default/113027255970596178'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113019154198664888/comments/default/113027255970596178'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-other-traditions-watching-john.html?showComment=1130272500000#c113027255970596178' title=''/><author><name>Lon Silliman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05557544995428892686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-other-traditions-watching-john.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113019154198664888' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113019154198664888' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1747027750"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 25, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113027095542895341</id><published>2005-10-25T16:09:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-25T16:09:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>erik said...&quot;Master of the obvious?&quot;You tawkin&#39; to...</title><summary type='text'>erik said...&quot;Master of the obvious?&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You tawkin&#39; to me?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113019154198664888/comments/default/113027095542895341'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113019154198664888/comments/default/113027095542895341'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-other-traditions-watching-john.html?showComment=1130270940000#c113027095542895341' title=''/><author><name>Stephen Baraban</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09637400683517160112</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-other-traditions-watching-john.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113019154198664888' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113019154198664888' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-290229728"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 25, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113027055299054032</id><published>2005-10-25T16:02:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-25T16:02:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Master of the obvious?</title><summary type='text'>Master of the obvious?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113019154198664888/comments/default/113027055299054032'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113019154198664888/comments/default/113027055299054032'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-other-traditions-watching-john.html?showComment=1130270520000#c113027055299054032' title=''/><author><name>Erik</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04455937980845884804</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-other-traditions-watching-john.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113019154198664888' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113019154198664888' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1443593682"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 25, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113026641811558680</id><published>2005-10-25T14:53:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-25T14:53:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Speaking of Samuel Greenberg, Katalanche Press jus...</title><summary type='text'>Speaking of Samuel Greenberg, Katalanche Press just published a gorgeous volume of his poems. http ://katalanchepress1.blogspot.com/</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113019154198664888/comments/default/113026641811558680'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113019154198664888/comments/default/113026641811558680'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-other-traditions-watching-john.html?showComment=1130266380000#c113026641811558680' title=''/><author><name>Jess</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15226704192100090117</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-other-traditions-watching-john.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113019154198664888' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113019154198664888' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-820784750"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 25, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113026515217875225</id><published>2005-10-25T14:32:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-25T14:32:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Pretty much all worthwhile modern and post-modern ...</title><summary type='text'>Pretty much all worthwhile modern and post-modern poetry wants to &quot;not mean/But be&quot; as Archibald MacLeish said in his &quot;Ars Poetica&quot;.  But to MacLeish what follows from this is that the poem needs to be &quot;palpable amd mute/As a globed fruit&quot; and &quot;dumb as a medallion&quot;, but to others the Be-ing poem can and should be a lot less quiet than that.  (And Bernstein once wrote that the poem should not be </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113019154198664888/comments/default/113026515217875225'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113019154198664888/comments/default/113026515217875225'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-other-traditions-watching-john.html?showComment=1130265120000#c113026515217875225' title=''/><author><name>Stephen Baraban</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09637400683517160112</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-other-traditions-watching-john.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113019154198664888' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113019154198664888' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-290229728"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 25, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113026024196244932</id><published>2005-10-25T13:10:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-25T13:10:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Silliman&#39;s poems have direct references to his chi...</title><summary type='text'>Silliman&#39;s poems have direct references to his childhood and other events in his life.  Ashbery would be the more New Critic - like exemplar of the NY School but if he was such a purist he would have nothing to do with O&#39;Hara et al or Laura Riding for that matter..&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But I spoke to the folks at the National Enquirer and they&#39;ve already printed the cover with grainy photos of Ron and </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113019154198664888/comments/default/113026024196244932'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113019154198664888/comments/default/113026024196244932'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-other-traditions-watching-john.html?showComment=1130260200000#c113026024196244932' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-other-traditions-watching-john.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113019154198664888' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113019154198664888' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 25, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113025611672296445</id><published>2005-10-25T12:01:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2005-10-25T12:01:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I think that you have to deal with the scandalous ...</title><summary type='text'>I think that you have to deal with the scandalous fact that Ashbery takes his notions from the New Criticism and that you do too.  The wound or rift a typical symptom as well as the fact that , for all your moves and Ashbery’s, moves attempting to not disclose the fact that yours and his notion of the poems revels in its ontological mystery and ambiguity and its special status as a mode of </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113019154198664888/comments/default/113025611672296445'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113019154198664888/comments/default/113025611672296445'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-other-traditions-watching-john.html?showComment=1130256060000#c113025611672296445' title=''/><author><name>Lon Silliman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05557544995428892686</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/10/reading-other-traditions-watching-john.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113019154198664888' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113019154198664888' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1747027750"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 25, 2005"/></entry></feed>