<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post113089061005837758..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>15</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113108602267767873</id><published>2005-11-04T01:33:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-04T01:33:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Correct me if I&#39;m wrong, but I think I&#39;m the first...</title><summary type='text'>Correct me if I&#39;m wrong, but I think I&#39;m the first person to use the term post-Objectivist, which I used first here on the Blog.  If that&#39;s true, then in my most humble opinion I get to rule on Ron&#39;s bathroom quandry.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Judges ruling:  the people who the Oppens published in the 1960s were NOT Objectivists, or post-Objectivists.  It was a case of YankeeDoodleDandying diverting Oppen from </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113108602267767873'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113108602267767873'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html?showComment=1131085980000#c113108602267767873' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113089061005837758' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113089061005837758' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 04, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113106961499134800</id><published>2005-11-03T21:00:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-03T21:00:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis, I said I myself was not convinced by the c...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis, I said I myself was not convinced by the criterion of survival in the marketplace.  It might have gotten lost.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I myself would rather have Moore or Stevens than Bukowski, for certain, and so I was putting pressure on the very criterion of the marketplace as being a litmus test of quality, but still throwing it in just to kind of see what gelled.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Would you say that perhaps</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113106961499134800'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113106961499134800'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html?showComment=1131069600000#c113106961499134800' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113089061005837758' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113089061005837758' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 03, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113106516541719136</id><published>2005-11-03T19:46:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-03T19:46:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron, many thanks for the continued genealogical sp...</title><summary type='text'>Ron, many thanks for the continued genealogical speculations. Regarding Harvey Shapiro: the kinship to Williams was quite strong, and the Pound influence is palpable as well, despite Pound&#39;s anti-Semitism, and Harvey&#39;s many poems on Jewish subjects. He has poems addressing both Williams and Pound directly. He was very close to Oppen, lived next door to Zukofsky, and knew (and I believe read with)</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113106516541719136'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113106516541719136'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html?showComment=1131065160000#c113106516541719136' title=''/><author><name>Norman Finkelstein</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03673105579717018812</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113089061005837758' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113089061005837758' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-282372784"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 03, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113105460282100300</id><published>2005-11-03T16:50:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-03T16:50:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Good point, JoshuaTrees3:  Ashbery&#39;s European conn...</title><summary type='text'>Good point, JoshuaTrees3:  Ashbery&#39;s European connections should never be forgotten.  He, like Merwin, bears comparison with mid-Century French and German (and even, in Ashbery&#39;s case, British) poetic models, perhaps more so than American ones. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Kirby, why are you always trying to seek the lowest common denominator?  So-called notions of &quot;popular&quot; poetry rarely pass muster.  &quot;Popular&quot; </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113105460282100300'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113105460282100300'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html?showComment=1131054600000#c113105460282100300' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113089061005837758' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113089061005837758' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 03, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113104975046369348</id><published>2005-11-03T15:29:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-03T15:29:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I enjoyed the post, but I have one question that d...</title><summary type='text'>I enjoyed the post, but I have one question that dovetails w/the one asked about Surrealism above, namely, where&#39;s Europe? Ashbery in particular seems to me indebted as much to the various anti-representational models of poetry that thrived in France (where he lived for a decade, no?) as to any of the American predecessors he mentions, or doesn&#39;t mention, in his lectures. Doesn&#39;t this confirm </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113104975046369348'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113104975046369348'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html?showComment=1131049740000#c113104975046369348' title=''/><author><name>joshuatrees3</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04159137314132522702</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113089061005837758' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113089061005837758' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-684436123"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 03, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113104970521934667</id><published>2005-11-03T15:28:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-03T15:28:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>How many poems could stand up in the marketplace? ...</title><summary type='text'>How many poems could stand up in the marketplace?  Goethe asks this about Homer&#39;s Odyssey compared to his own day&#39;s poets.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Bukowski I think could hold his own, as could the other top two Beat poets.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I am not sure Ashbery or Marianne Moore or even Wallace Stevens could hold up in the marketplace.  Would anybody listen to these poets?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I&#39;m not certain that it&#39;s a </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113104970521934667'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113104970521934667'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html?showComment=1131049680000#c113104970521934667' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113089061005837758' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113089061005837758' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 03, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113104643201046043</id><published>2005-11-03T14:33:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-03T14:33:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ure Juss Beeeng Sillllllllllllie!</title><summary type='text'>Ure Juss Beeeng Sillllllllllllie!</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113104643201046043'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113104643201046043'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html?showComment=1131046380000#c113104643201046043' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113089061005837758' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113089061005837758' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 03, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113104162786447658</id><published>2005-11-03T13:13:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-03T13:13:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Nevertheless you need to write your big book discu...</title><summary type='text'>Nevertheless you need to write your big book discussing all of this.  Who else remembers all these names and you bring them back from the grave.  You will be known as &quot;The Great Rememberer&quot; and there is something very noble in that.  You should maybe co-author the book with Curtis who has established his Great Rememberer bona fides with the inclusion of the name Michael Dennis Browne.  I wouldn&#39;t</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113104162786447658'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113104162786447658'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html?showComment=1131041580000#c113104162786447658' title=''/><author><name>joe green</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12257285616529795340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113089061005837758' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113089061005837758' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1849826838"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 03, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113103751108901120</id><published>2005-11-03T12:05:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-03T12:05:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I believe the School of Snooze emerged from one of...</title><summary type='text'>I believe the School of Snooze emerged from one of Ashbery&#39;s quieter afternoons.  This theory may be belied by future critical developments, since the SF New Americans were not really engaged in the... the... zzzzzz...</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113103751108901120'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113103751108901120'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html?showComment=1131037500000#c113103751108901120' title=''/><author><name>Henry Gould</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04783460308217456577</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113089061005837758' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113089061005837758' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1417109118"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 03, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113103737483312336</id><published>2005-11-03T12:02:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-03T12:02:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Trouble is that Ashbery is the great poet of the a...</title><summary type='text'>Trouble is that Ashbery is the great poet of the alleged Quietude--he has 3 poems in the New Yorker and they&#39;ll just keep coming.  You could put the line &quot;Shhhhhhh!&quot; into any of the poems he&#39;s written over the past 30 years and no on would bat an eye.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;xxxjimmy&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;word verification: estha</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113103737483312336'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113103737483312336'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html?showComment=1131037320000#c113103737483312336' title=''/><author><name>Behrle, Prince of Trolls</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/02376200318127362630</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113089061005837758' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113089061005837758' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1368997688"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 03, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113103601856644921</id><published>2005-11-03T11:40:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-03T11:40:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>My Landscape Architecture design professor used to...</title><summary type='text'>My Landscape Architecture design professor used to say one&#39;s best ideas come under the shower in the morning--and the other part of the formula was 90% thinking about the problem before-hand, and 10% in the execution, always produced better results.  Often we mull a problem during sleep (almost an unconscious process), and then the idea emerges through the steam of the bath.  McLuhan said Wall </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113103601856644921'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113103601856644921'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html?showComment=1131036000000#c113103601856644921' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113089061005837758' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113089061005837758' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 03, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113103087056974601</id><published>2005-11-03T10:14:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-03T10:14:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ashbery translated Arthur Cravan and other surreal...</title><summary type='text'>Ashbery translated Arthur Cravan and other surrealists, and does have a foot there.  The surrealists were fairly violently anti-homosexuality -- and so perhaps he snubs them finally?  There are many just around and outside surrealism -- the Belgians, etc., that O&#39;Hara picked up on (Perloff does a good job delineating this).&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Another tradition that is odd in the Ashbery canon is that of </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113103087056974601'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113103087056974601'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html?showComment=1131030840000#c113103087056974601' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113089061005837758' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113089061005837758' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 03, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113102935470292106</id><published>2005-11-03T09:49:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-03T09:49:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I&#39;m surprised that, in the course of this entry, t...</title><summary type='text'>I&#39;m surprised that, in the course of this entry, the Surrealists didn&#39;t pop in somewhere...if Ashbery,O&#39;Hara, Koch, were avant-gardists not taking cues from Ez and Williams, they certainly did take cues from Pierre Reverdy, Andre Breton, Guillaume Apollinaire, etc. In fact, I see an umbilical cord (albeit one among many) tying Reverdy, Breton, etc, to Ashbery, Koch, etc, to Silliman, Bernstein, </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113102935470292106'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113102935470292106'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html?showComment=1131029340000#c113102935470292106' title=''/><author><name>P.F.S. Post</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11909851580874856025</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113089061005837758' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113089061005837758' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1001663691"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 03, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113102864328149278</id><published>2005-11-03T09:37:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-03T09:37:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I both love and fear this obsession w/geneology so...</title><summary type='text'>I both love and fear this obsession w/geneology so painstakingly articulated.  Though it also scrares up a whole lot of resonances with the New Testament&#39;s (Mathews&#39;s at least) obsession with begattng Jesus back to David--as a way of establishing authority.  If that is, in fact, what&#39;s going on here--and in Ashbury and in so much of your blog--well then, I much prefer the multiphonic mode of the </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113102864328149278'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113102864328149278'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html?showComment=1131028620000#c113102864328149278' title=''/><author><name>myshkin2</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12334340208396536106</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113089061005837758' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113089061005837758' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-16179833"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 03, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113102121863642948</id><published>2005-11-03T07:33:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-03T07:33:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>A most useful note indeed.</title><summary type='text'>A most useful note indeed.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113102121863642948'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113089061005837758/comments/default/113102121863642948'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html?showComment=1131021180000#c113102121863642948' title=''/><author><name>ideaist.wordpress.com</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11326216841108224361</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/philip-hobsbaum-james-laughlin-did.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113089061005837758' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113089061005837758' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-805121679"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 03, 2005"/></entry></feed>