<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post113301593545915543..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>45</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113333038256441334</id><published>2005-11-30T00:59:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-30T00:59:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>speaking of &#39;insular US,&#39; is there anything more &#39;...</title><summary type='text'>speaking of &#39;insular US,&#39; is there anything more &#39;insular US&#39; than regarding being passed over for tenure track or not reading at St Marks as unbearable persecution?  World Lit 101 awaits you with its gruesome tales.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113333038256441334'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113333038256441334'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html?showComment=1133330340000#c113333038256441334' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113301593545915543' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113301593545915543' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 30, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113332911813256892</id><published>2005-11-30T00:38:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-30T00:38:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;the ones who speak their minds w/o being afraid o...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;the ones who speak their minds w/o being afraid of not having their chapbook published or getting that stellar reading slot at St Marks, the ones who don&#39;t rub their professor&#39;s backs or kiss booty,&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;..and your name is..?..</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113332911813256892'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113332911813256892'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html?showComment=1133329080000#c113332911813256892' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113301593545915543' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113301593545915543' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 30, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113332869507864456</id><published>2005-11-30T00:31:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-30T00:31:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>What about poets who didn&#39;t go to school, the ones...</title><summary type='text'>What about poets who didn&#39;t go to school, the ones who didn&#39;t get into writing for some kinda social affirmation, the ones who aren&#39;t neurotic secretly insecure ivy league bohos slumming in NYC coctail party gentility, the ones who are passionate, the ones who speak their minds w/o being afraid of not having their chapbook published or getting that stellar reading slot at St Marks, the ones who </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113332869507864456'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113332869507864456'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html?showComment=1133328660000#c113332869507864456' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113301593545915543' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113301593545915543' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 30, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113330540283777154</id><published>2005-11-29T18:03:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-29T18:03:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ian:Tricky.  Schuyler &quot;attended&quot; Auden on Ischia i...</title><summary type='text'>Ian:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Tricky.  Schuyler &quot;attended&quot; Auden on Ischia in the early &#39;Fifties.  He was very much the Gay guy then, it took him a while to &quot;find&quot; his voice.  It would be hard to find antecedents.  Whitman by way of Williams--Imagism combined with a conversational twist.  The Metaphysicals--Traherne has been mentioned.  Schuyler&#39;s originality--as evidenced in Freely Espousing--was to make a &quot;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113330540283777154'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113330540283777154'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html?showComment=1133305380000#c113330540283777154' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113301593545915543' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113301593545915543' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 29, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113330441922093967</id><published>2005-11-29T17:46:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-29T17:46:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>also, can you characterize Schuyler as an outgrowt...</title><summary type='text'>also, can you characterize Schuyler as an outgrowth of NY styles without using painters (that is, using writers)?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113330441922093967'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113330441922093967'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html?showComment=1133304360000#c113330441922093967' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113301593545915543' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113301593545915543' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 29, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113330360808969292</id><published>2005-11-29T17:33:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-29T17:33:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I don&#39;t quite get the &#39;Silliman out of Christo.&#39;  ...</title><summary type='text'>I don&#39;t quite get the &#39;Silliman out of Christo.&#39;  My Christo-consciousness is of his later period.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113330360808969292'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113330360808969292'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html?showComment=1133303580000#c113330360808969292' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113301593545915543' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113301593545915543' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 29, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113327903908166383</id><published>2005-11-29T10:43:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-29T10:43:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The matter of &quot;generations&quot; is at best an arbitrar...</title><summary type='text'>The matter of &quot;generations&quot; is at best an arbitrary one.  Certain watershed events may be taken for historical short-hand, such as WWII, or Vietnam, but people often straddle movements and eras and don&#39;t fit conveniently into categories.  I do think it makes sense to speak of the First and Second New York School Generations, especially since the second clearly came out of, were taught by and </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113327903908166383'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113327903908166383'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html?showComment=1133278980000#c113327903908166383' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113301593545915543' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113301593545915543' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 29, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113325014184290612</id><published>2005-11-29T02:42:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-29T02:42:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>True, Ben. I prefer your tone to mine own.</title><summary type='text'>True, Ben. &lt;BR/&gt;I prefer your tone to mine own.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113325014184290612'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113325014184290612'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html?showComment=1133250120000#c113325014184290612' title=''/><author><name>andy gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00797822725132844348</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113301593545915543' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113301593545915543' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1436621432"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 29, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113322600523607223</id><published>2005-11-28T20:00:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-28T20:00:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron, you&#39;ve been making it clear for a while that ...</title><summary type='text'>Ron, you&#39;ve been making it clear for a while that by &quot;school,&quot; as in SoQ, you mean, &quot;clique,&quot; as in, &quot;not part of one of the cliques of which I approve.&quot;  Fine.  But this time you&#39;ve gone too far.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Just because Gertrude Stein doesn&#39;t fit into your &quot;poetry clique&quot; theory doesn&#39;t mean she didn&#39;t get to modernism before the U-Penna people.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113322600523607223'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113322600523607223'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html?showComment=1133226000000#c113322600523607223' title=''/><author><name>John</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/10346667118243205070</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113301593545915543' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113301593545915543' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1530025638"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 28, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113321770472468963</id><published>2005-11-28T17:41:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-28T17:41:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>You&#39;re ok Mr. Friendlander and we wish you the mos...</title><summary type='text'>You&#39;re ok Mr. Friendlander and we wish you the most pleasant of evenings.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113321770472468963'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113321770472468963'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html?showComment=1133217660000#c113321770472468963' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113301593545915543' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113301593545915543' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 28, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113321726568993993</id><published>2005-11-28T17:34:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-28T17:34:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>It&#39;s rare, Andy, even for two. So how nice, Anon.,...</title><summary type='text'>It&#39;s rare, Andy, even for &lt;B&gt;two&lt;/B&gt;. So how nice, Anon., for you and I to reach our understanding so quickly!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ben F.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113321726568993993'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113321726568993993'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html?showComment=1133217240000#c113321726568993993' title=''/><author><name>Ben Friedlander</name><uri>http://www.flickr.com/photos/mongibeddu/</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113301593545915543' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113301593545915543' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 28, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113320787135002436</id><published>2005-11-28T14:57:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-28T14:57:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Lars,Thanks for your posts&#39;s pointer to the fact t...</title><summary type='text'>Lars,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Thanks for your posts&#39;s pointer to the fact that people generally have little to no idea of what anarchism is as a sociopolitical stance. Or rather varied group of stances.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I&#39;ve seen groups of late-teen pacifist-leaning anarchists come to quick consensus in emergency situations where what is at stake is something they all care deeply about. I&#39;ve never seen any other group </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113320787135002436'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113320787135002436'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html?showComment=1133207820000#c113320787135002436' title=''/><author><name>andy gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00797822725132844348</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113301593545915543' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113301593545915543' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1436621432"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 28, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113320697004611239</id><published>2005-11-28T14:42:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-28T14:42:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Oh, I was also kidding by using the phrase &quot;rootle...</title><summary type='text'>Oh, I was also kidding by using the phrase &quot;rootless cosmopolitanism&quot; which you may recognize as anti-Semitic.  I think we both like things to go every which way, so now I see you&#39;re ok.  Thanks for the smile.  I can see it&#39;s irony now.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113320697004611239'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113320697004611239'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html?showComment=1133206920000#c113320697004611239' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113301593545915543' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113301593545915543' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 28, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113320687504981140</id><published>2005-11-28T14:41:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-28T14:41:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I think I misread the photo and now I will have to...</title><summary type='text'>I think I misread the photo and now I will have to apologize.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113320687504981140'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113320687504981140'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html?showComment=1133206860000#c113320687504981140' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113301593545915543' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113301593545915543' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 28, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113319965362079307</id><published>2005-11-28T12:40:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-28T12:40:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The grimy stone wall looks like Europe smoewhere a...</title><summary type='text'>&lt;I&gt;The grimy stone wall looks like Europe smoewhere and the simplistic statements which Friendlander appears to endorse with his smug smile are an aspect of this rootless cosmopolitanism that is everywhere and nowhere.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The photo was taken in Catania, Sicily, my wife&#39;s home town. Here&#39;s another where I&#39;m smiling even more broadly:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113319965362079307'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113319965362079307'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html?showComment=1133199600000#c113319965362079307' title=''/><author><name>Ben F</name><uri>http://www.umit.maine.edu/~ben.friedlander/</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113301593545915543' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113301593545915543' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 28, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113319391534546608</id><published>2005-11-28T11:05:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-28T11:05:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>anonymousanarchists are the most principled people...</title><summary type='text'>anonymous&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;anarchists are the most principled people i know. they have to be in order to 1: be regarded as anything else than terrorists. anarchism is the least terrorist political movement i know of. 2: be able to organize a society without power &amp; oppression &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;i hope i put this in words that are simple enough for you to understand&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;then of course i tend to find </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113319391534546608'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113319391534546608'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html?showComment=1133193900000#c113319391534546608' title=''/><author><name>Lars Palm</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/18014279624033048950</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113301593545915543' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113301593545915543' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1490930370"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 28, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113319024734104353</id><published>2005-11-28T10:04:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-28T10:04:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis Faville asked me to clarify my dislike of t...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis Faville asked me to clarify my dislike of the Friendlander photo.  The grimy stone wall looks like Europe smoewhere and the simplistic statements which Friendlander appears to endorse with his smug smile are an aspect of this rootless cosmopolitanism that is everywhere and nowhere.  The anarchism symbol underwriting the whole picture is part of this -- anarchists are without principles, </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113319024734104353'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113319024734104353'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html?showComment=1133190240000#c113319024734104353' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113301593545915543' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113301593545915543' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 28, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113316530607169640</id><published>2005-11-28T03:08:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-28T03:08:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>what the tarnation hell is all this first generati...</title><summary type='text'>what the tarnation hell is all this first generation second generation third generation stuff supposed to be about exactly? it sounds like the &quot;begats&quot; in the damned Bible....why don&#39;t ya&#39;ll talk about poetry? Nimen feng le ma? &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Does ANYBODY know Joe Bolton out there? He needs to have a complete edition of his stuff. teh partial one that dickwad D. Justice did is not enough. This guy was</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113316530607169640'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113316530607169640'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html?showComment=1133165280000#c113316530607169640' title=''/><author><name>steve in taipei</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113301593545915543' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113301593545915543' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 28, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113315144353685250</id><published>2005-11-27T23:17:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-27T23:17:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>thank you Pearlyes I kow about slams, but in a pla...</title><summary type='text'>thank you Pearl&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;yes I kow about slams, but in a play what you write has to become part of a complicated structure -- even if it&#39;s a non-tradtional multi-media moevment thing or whatever -- timing is crucial, tone, making the exactly right effct on the audience at THIS point, not That point. stuff like that...it&#39;s actually rather tricky; even your sense of how long some dialogue will last</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113315144353685250'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113315144353685250'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html?showComment=1133151420000#c113315144353685250' title=''/><author><name>steve in taipei</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113301593545915543' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113301593545915543' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 27, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113314482581444253</id><published>2005-11-27T21:27:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-27T21:27:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Dear anonymous:Don&#39;t be so angry.  You don&#39;t need ...</title><summary type='text'>Dear anonymous:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Don&#39;t be so angry.  You don&#39;t need anger as an excuse to get this stuff off your chest.  I&#39;m interested in how you link the compromises within the academy with the capitulation of &quot;the Left.&quot;  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Say it again, but more carefully this time.  How is Friedlander&#39;s photo a &quot;posturing&quot;?  Does the grafitti somehow hypocritically infect the picture?  How?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113314482581444253'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113314482581444253'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html?showComment=1133144820000#c113314482581444253' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113301593545915543' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113301593545915543' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 27, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113312062715610337</id><published>2005-11-27T14:43:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-27T14:43:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>whoops / that should have readperhaps / we&#39;re not ...</title><summary type='text'>whoops / that should have read&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;perhaps / we&#39;re not allowed @ all . . .&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;*******&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;hmm / interest ing &lt;BR/&gt;the power of one word &lt;BR/&gt;to complete lee&lt;BR/&gt;change mean ing &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;~fx</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113312062715610337'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113312062715610337'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html?showComment=1133120580000#c113312062715610337' title=''/><author><name>666poetry-finchnot</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09182642674574512863</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113301593545915543' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113301593545915543' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1372025433"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 27, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113311992937866523</id><published>2005-11-27T14:32:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-27T14:32:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Does it tell more about a writer to know that Lydi...</title><summary type='text'>&lt;I&gt;Does it tell more about a writer to know that Lydia Davis attended the same private school as Eliot Weinberger &amp; Bob Perelman than it does that her half-brother is Nation columnist Alexander Cockburn? &lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;dog  / i hope not / / &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;sorry ron&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;but i found this post pretentious&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&amp; some what boring / / okay / totally boring / / &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;you know what</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113311992937866523'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113311992937866523'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html?showComment=1133119920000#c113311992937866523' title=''/><author><name>666poetry-finchnot</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09182642674574512863</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113301593545915543' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113301593545915543' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1372025433"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 27, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113311986720924579</id><published>2005-11-27T14:31:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-27T14:31:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The greatest problem in the academies today is the...</title><summary type='text'>The greatest problem in the academies today is the influx of the ovrly sensitives and the artificiality and hypocrisy of the tone they&#39;ve mastered which usually comes across as a self-serving and disturbing propensity for self-aggrandizement not only in academia but also among the Bohemian crowd, which so prizes its sensitivity as to posture endlessly over every delicate and feeble affection, </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113311986720924579'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113311986720924579'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html?showComment=1133119860000#c113311986720924579' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113301593545915543' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113301593545915543' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 27, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113311054668604536</id><published>2005-11-27T11:55:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-27T11:55:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>It makes sense that if poets are cultivated by cer...</title><summary type='text'>It makes sense that if poets are cultivated by certain environments more than others, if there&#39;s some sort of tipping point in conscensus that poetry is ok, maybe even something you can commit time to and own up to doing, that the people would be less than one step removed from each other. Which school may not have mattered. The culture could have arisen anywhere. It just happened to be where it </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113311054668604536'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113311054668604536'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html?showComment=1133110500000#c113311054668604536' title=''/><author><name>Pearl</name><uri>http://www.pagehalffull.com/humanyms/</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113301593545915543' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113301593545915543' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-846577922"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 27, 2005"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113310961368399530</id><published>2005-11-27T11:40:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-11-27T11:40:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I meant Maxine&#39;s list on the comments after the Jo...</title><summary type='text'>I meant Maxine&#39;s list on the comments after the Jordan Davis blog entry below.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113310961368399530'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113301593545915543/comments/default/113310961368399530'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html?showComment=1133109600000#c113310961368399530' title=''/><author><name>James</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/14066844450420389687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2005/11/ben-friedlander-bob-perelman-than-it.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113301593545915543' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113301593545915543' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-564976163"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 27, 2005"/></entry></feed>