<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post113673036387233127..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>22</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113730297934377330</id><published>2006-01-15T00:29:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-15T00:29:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;WE ARE BEING ACCUSED OF GROUPTHINK, LUCIPOODLES!&quot;...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;WE ARE BEING ACCUSED OF GROUPTHINK, LUCIPOODLES!&quot; &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Quote courtesy of Tony Tost via this listserv.  Interesting thing it is.  Nice letter.  Buoyant even.&lt;BR/&gt;Sad in a way to remember how hotspots glow up for a while and then dim.  A real Rise and Fall of empires it seems and this reflected in small segments of society as such:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Lucipoodles.  Help we are dying in the light of day!</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113730297934377330'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113730297934377330'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html?showComment=1137302940000#c113730297934377330' title=''/><author><name>Lady Jane</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04555982712708881025</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113673036387233127' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113673036387233127' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1542572767"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 15, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113691217204886871</id><published>2006-01-10T11:56:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-10T11:56:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>It would be interesting to hear what Jameson would...</title><summary type='text'>It would be interesting to hear what Jameson would have to say about whether Plato’s Symposium had a ‘groupthink.’  The representation of Agathon, its SoQ, as a manifestation of one from elsewhere does not end the question.  Jameson refers to Plato in Political Unconscious as a sort of voice of the absolute and references Derrida’s Dissemination, which talks about the historical determinism of </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113691217204886871'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113691217204886871'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html?showComment=1136912160000#c113691217204886871' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113673036387233127' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113673036387233127' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 10, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113687930276261938</id><published>2006-01-10T02:48:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-10T02:48:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Tony- if you have any interest in the goings on up...</title><summary type='text'>Tony- if you have any interest in the goings on up I95- the Richmond area is (after ten years of hard work from a lot of poets) is tumbling into a place where you can find poets reading somewhere three to five nights a week.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I keep a calendar and such on my website FlashPaperPoetry and update whenever something new comes in (which I need to do right now but I have to go back to bed)</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113687930276261938'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113687930276261938'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html?showComment=1136879280000#c113687930276261938' title=''/><author><name>shann</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/14067576860660881139</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113673036387233127' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113673036387233127' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1505930166"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 10, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113685784811466410</id><published>2006-01-09T20:50:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-09T20:50:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Murat sent the following to an email address I hav...</title><summary type='text'>Murat sent the following to an email address I haven&#39;t used in a year or two, so I just saw it today:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Dear Ron,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Maybe for a foolish reason I promised myself not to contribute to any blog where I need a users name (besides my own) and choose a password. I would appreciate it very much if you could relay this message to this Sinday&#39;s comment section. Both you and I very much </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113685784811466410'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113685784811466410'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html?showComment=1136857800000#c113685784811466410' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113673036387233127' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113673036387233127' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 09, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113682802425981818</id><published>2006-01-09T12:33:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-09T12:33:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>For the record, Titanic Operas is sponsored by the...</title><summary type='text'>For the record, Titanic Operas is sponsored by the Emily Dickinson Electronic Archive. The archive serves both academic and general audiences. Martha Nell Smith, a Dickinson scholar and friend, invited me to edit a &quot;folio&quot; that would be put up on the larger page. This folio is dedicated to contemporary poetry and poetics, and has featured work by Mary Margaret Sloan, Geoffrey O&#39;Brien, Fanny Howe,</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113682802425981818'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113682802425981818'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html?showComment=1136827980000#c113682802425981818' title=''/><author><name>Jdonahue</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/02515082602080866368</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113673036387233127' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113673036387233127' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-729343131"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 09, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113680399553334468</id><published>2006-01-09T05:53:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-09T05:53:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Tony, I would be a correspondentfor Portland but I...</title><summary type='text'>Tony, I would be a correspondent&lt;BR/&gt;for Portland but I doubt many of you guys would be interested in&lt;BR/&gt;the Walt Curtis types or any of the local drunk indians or schitzo-poets i like who read in the more obscure coffee shop venues..&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;for those type of wondrus animalcules you&#39;d need to check&lt;BR/&gt;out David Abel&#39;s crowd. He has a reading series with a host of luminary &quot;decent folks&quot; like </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113680399553334468'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113680399553334468'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html?showComment=1136803980000#c113680399553334468' title=''/><author><name>phaneronoemikon</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08430230355065457354</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113673036387233127' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113673036387233127' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1411460047"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 09, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113677447135489743</id><published>2006-01-08T21:41:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-08T21:41:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>For those who haven&#39;t had a chance to check out gr...</title><summary type='text'>For those who haven&#39;t had a chance to check out groupthink in editorial action, here&#39;s the URL for Titanic Operas:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;http://www.emilydickinson.org/titanic/material/index.html&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;For Free Verse:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;http://english.chass.ncsu.edu/freeverse/index.html&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;For Fascicle:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;http://www.fascicle.com&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;(Rugged individualists need not apply.)  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;By the way, I&#39;m </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113677447135489743'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113677447135489743'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html?showComment=1136774460000#c113677447135489743' title=''/><author><name>Tony Tost</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15765857872778493229</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113673036387233127' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113673036387233127' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1599768463"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 08, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113677259464779586</id><published>2006-01-08T21:09:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-08T21:09:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113677259464779586'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113677259464779586'/><author><name>Tony Tost</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15765857872778493229</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113673036387233127' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113673036387233127' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1599768463"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 08, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113677067799226057</id><published>2006-01-08T20:37:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-08T20:37:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Throw a stone in Memphis and you hit a Kenneth Koc...</title><summary type='text'>Throw a stone in Memphis and you hit a Kenneth Koch impersonator.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113677067799226057'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113677067799226057'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html?showComment=1136770620000#c113677067799226057' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113673036387233127' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113673036387233127' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 08, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113677028503645438</id><published>2006-01-08T20:31:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-08T20:31:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ian,Are you /denying/ the *horror* that would be K...</title><summary type='text'>Ian,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Are you /denying/ the *horror* that would be Koch&#39;s corpse tottering on a wooden stool in front of a microphone?!?!?  while lackies dressed in black pull wires to make his jaw move?  and the piped in recording of some Poetry Project reading emmanates from a hidden speaker under his vest?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Denying what would *assuredly* be the *poor* taste of taping a pen into a dead man&#39;s </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113677028503645438'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113677028503645438'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html?showComment=1136770260000#c113677028503645438' title=''/><author><name>Ken Rumble</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00746644074804416378</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113673036387233127' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113673036387233127' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1033809189"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 08, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113676831871397359</id><published>2006-01-08T19:58:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-08T19:58:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Are you DENYING that Titanic Opera published Sharo...</title><summary type='text'>Are you DENYING that Titanic Opera published Sharon Olds?!  Are you DENYING that Fascicle doesn’t publish dead people?! Who sayeth I have an agenda?! LOL&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ask Jameson what he thinks about your assertion that your literary group doesn’t have a ‘groupthink.’  That’s what they pay him for.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113676831871397359'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113676831871397359'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html?showComment=1136768280000#c113676831871397359' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113673036387233127' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113673036387233127' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 08, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113676773572589579</id><published>2006-01-08T19:48:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-08T19:48:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Addendum: Scalapino, etc. aren&#39;t card carrying Lan...</title><summary type='text'>Addendum: Scalapino, etc. aren&#39;t card carrying Langpos, but the point is that if there doesn&#39;t happen to be a big Lang presence in the three journals or reading series, there also isn&#39;t any active antagonism, us vs themming either.  No one&#39;s losing sleep over it.  It&#39;s one group of writers, one that has been very very very very well representated in journals and the academy in relation to its </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113676773572589579'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113676773572589579'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html?showComment=1136767680000#c113676773572589579' title=''/><author><name>Tony Tost</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15765857872778493229</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113673036387233127' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113673036387233127' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1599768463"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 08, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113676526582749894</id><published>2006-01-08T19:07:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-08T19:07:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Argh, blogger ate my lengthy comment.So in summary...</title><summary type='text'>Argh, blogger ate my lengthy comment.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;So in summary:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ian,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;WTF?  I have no idea what your point is.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Didn&#39;t say that my opinions were different from the Lucipo groupthink.  I&#39;m sayin that there ain&#39;t no groupthink!  Some people share similars tastes, some don&#39;t.  It&#39;s just like anywhere else like that.  Woo hoo.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I have no idea how you have found your </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113676526582749894'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113676526582749894'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html?showComment=1136765220000#c113676526582749894' title=''/><author><name>Tony Tost</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15765857872778493229</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113673036387233127' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113673036387233127' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1599768463"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 08, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113676449747862014</id><published>2006-01-08T18:54:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-08T18:54:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Part of the lack of folks in those venues that you...</title><summary type='text'>Part of the lack of folks in those venues that you point out, Ian, those folks that are on Tony&#39;s first list and not in any of the venues he mentioned, part of that lack is the result of many of them being dead, right?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113676449747862014'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113676449747862014'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html?showComment=1136764440000#c113676449747862014' title=''/><author><name>Ken Rumble</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00746644074804416378</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113673036387233127' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113673036387233127' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1033809189"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 08, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113675811024891017</id><published>2006-01-08T17:08:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-08T17:08:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Thanks for your gracious response, Tony.  None of ...</title><summary type='text'>Thanks for your gracious response, Tony.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;None of the poets on your first list has been printed in any of the three magazines you mentioned. Fascicle lists its roster of poets on the home page: the sole Langpoet amongst many in their generation is Carla Harryman.  Titanic Opera has no Langpoet to go with its list of Olds, Clampitt, etc. Ditto Free Verse. Ditto the reading series </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113675811024891017'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113675811024891017'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html?showComment=1136758080000#c113675811024891017' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113673036387233127' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113673036387233127' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 08, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113675320911553552</id><published>2006-01-08T15:46:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-08T15:46:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Uhh, a weird spin beginning on things here.  Ian, ...</title><summary type='text'>Uhh, a weird spin beginning on things here.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ian, I don&#39;t know how useful it is to pick a momentary statement from one person (me) and hold it up as representative of any kind of group think.  Especially as it was intended to demonstrate where my tastes seem to diverge from many of my friends&#39; tastes (ie, other Lucipo folks).  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Most of the local Lucipo participants are pretty </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113675320911553552'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113675320911553552'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html?showComment=1136753160000#c113675320911553552' title=''/><author><name>Tony Tost</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15765857872778493229</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113673036387233127' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113673036387233127' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1599768463"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 08, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113674539382500101</id><published>2006-01-08T13:36:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-08T13:36:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I didn’t mean political or sectarian ideology, I m...</title><summary type='text'>I didn’t mean political or sectarian ideology, I meant that there are factors that make people think a certain way about literature that are cultural, economic, regional, consensual, etc.  I am not a Lucipo expert so clarifications are of course welcome.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113674539382500101'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113674539382500101'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html?showComment=1136745360000#c113674539382500101' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113673036387233127' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113673036387233127' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 08, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113674483124324401</id><published>2006-01-08T13:27:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-08T13:27:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I&#39;ve nothing against partisanship.I think people n...</title><summary type='text'>I&#39;ve nothing against partisanship.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I think people need to be open to other things, but also they need to have passionate likes and dislikes.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I&#39;ve always very much enjoyed Berrigan and Schuyler.  Never understood why anyone liked Corso and Waldman.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;CD Wright and Waldrop are very good.  Grossman, Ammons, Penn Warren and Samperi bore me to tears.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I don&#39;t </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113674483124324401'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113674483124324401'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html?showComment=1136744820000#c113674483124324401' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113673036387233127' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113673036387233127' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 08, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113674309971563191</id><published>2006-01-08T12:58:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-08T12:58:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ian,Having been around the Lucipo folks a time or ...</title><summary type='text'>Ian,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Having been around the Lucipo folks a time or two, it&#39;s been my observation that ideology is hardly the defining factor where this group&#39;s concerned.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;As for Tost&#39;s &quot;pithy&quot; list, I think you might be missing some of its parodic elements.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113674309971563191'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113674309971563191'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html?showComment=1136743080000#c113674309971563191' title=''/><author><name>Clayton A. Couch</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11468908253210060055</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113673036387233127' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113673036387233127' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-413408177"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 08, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113674169560767264</id><published>2006-01-08T12:34:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-08T12:34:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I think the Silliman’s Blog stream draws its stren...</title><summary type='text'>I think the Silliman’s Blog stream draws its strength from being a place for people in far flung places to talk, which has its problems from time to time, and gets less interesting when people try to impose the laws of localities on it.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Lucipo from what I’ve read is a local young academic club with its regional ideology*.  The ‘who the hell is Ron and his SoQ/avant talk’ crowd would </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113674169560767264'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113674169560767264'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html?showComment=1136741640000#c113674169560767264' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113673036387233127' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113673036387233127' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 08, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113673651082354665</id><published>2006-01-08T11:08:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-08T11:08:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The danger, as i see it, in closed, membership-onl...</title><summary type='text'>The danger, as i see it, in closed, membership-only subscription discussion groups, which is the same danger that any geographically or technically (as in internet media) limited membership risks, is in becoming a dialogue between like minds, with a limited range of positions.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ron will refer to the &quot;Chicago scene&quot; or the &quot;Chapel Hill Scene&quot; because there are five or eight people in </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113673651082354665'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113673651082354665'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html?showComment=1136736480000#c113673651082354665' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113673036387233127' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113673036387233127' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 08, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113673128368735000</id><published>2006-01-08T09:41:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-01-08T09:41:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>And Even If It Continues Barking, The Stars Will S...</title><summary type='text'>And Even If It Continues Barking, The Stars Will Shine* &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;oh how they shine&lt;BR/&gt;in the firmament&lt;BR/&gt;and elegant furniture&lt;BR/&gt;of geometry&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;but&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;would they say&lt;BR/&gt;then that what had&lt;BR/&gt;been&lt;BR/&gt;could have been&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;some rude graffito&lt;BR/&gt;on the barndoor&lt;BR/&gt;or even outhouse&lt;BR/&gt;of a fading penumbra&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;that silent faceless pilgrimage&lt;BR/&gt;on the way to skull rock</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113673128368735000'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/113673036387233127/comments/default/113673128368735000'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html?showComment=1136731260000#c113673128368735000' title=''/><author><name>phaneronoemikon</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08430230355065457354</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/01/ken-rumble-posted-following-note-to.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-113673036387233127' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/113673036387233127' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1411460047"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="January 08, 2006"/></entry></feed>