<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post114976493551359725..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>27</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115043486293995389</id><published>2006-06-16T01:14:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-06-16T01:14:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>But what about Ron&#39;s soul?  Does Ron Silliman have...</title><summary type='text'>But what about Ron&#39;s soul?  Does Ron Silliman have a soul?  Who cares about Olson, he is dead and has done all the damage or good he could do.  Ron is still alive or so it seems.  Athiests and particularly, Athiest Buddhists have no soul nor need for a soul.  Therefore, Ron is truly in error if he seeks in any way to capitalize (in his curious Marxist way) on anything pertaining to the newest </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/115043486293995389'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/115043486293995389'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html?showComment=1150434840000#c115043486293995389' title=''/><author><name>Lady Jane</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04555982712708881025</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114976493551359725' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114976493551359725' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1542572767"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 16, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115024937014361624</id><published>2006-06-13T21:42:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-06-13T21:42:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Michael:I think that&#39;s very true.  The integrative...</title><summary type='text'>Michael:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I think that&#39;s very true.  The integrative locus was the key to Olson&#39;s preoccupations.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/115024937014361624'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/115024937014361624'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html?showComment=1150249320000#c115024937014361624' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114976493551359725' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114976493551359725' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 13, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115005200029723597</id><published>2006-06-11T14:53:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-06-11T14:53:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I&#39;m not sure we can assume what Olson would be say...</title><summary type='text'>I&#39;m not sure we can assume what Olson would be &lt;I&gt;saying&lt;/I&gt; if he were alive today, but I do think he&#39;d be especially interested in the sciences advancing our understanding of the nature and function of consciousness--the basic ground of our mind/body unity, and the place where we integrate our experience in reaction to our present situation in all its guise, ie, where we write poetry.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/115005200029723597'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/115005200029723597'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html?showComment=1150051980000#c115005200029723597' title=''/><author><name>Michael Hoerman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07253904232487904166</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114976493551359725' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114976493551359725' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1328156720"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 11, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115003399023851082</id><published>2006-06-11T09:53:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-06-11T09:53:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Olson as Gumshoe.  I doubt the personification wou...</title><summary type='text'>Olson as Gumshoe.  I doubt the personification would have meant much to him.  He was after bigger game. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It wouldn&#39;t surprise me if he were to have subscribed to a notion of the poet as earthmover, that the peripheral digits of society can be effected through the subtlest germinations of intelligent thought.  Out of acorns.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/115003399023851082'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/115003399023851082'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html?showComment=1150033980000#c115003399023851082' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114976493551359725' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114976493551359725' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 11, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114999926770648308</id><published>2006-06-11T00:14:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-06-11T00:14:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis footnote: I was imagining Olson as the Chin...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis footnote: I was imagining Olson as the Chinatown protagonist concerning Brent&#39;s statement: &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;It seems to me that American noir repeatedly presumes that, if only you CAN expose the truth of the crime, some vague social mechanics will immediately take hold that will cleanse and redeem all that followed--and in many ways I think Olson held to that.&quot;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114999926770648308'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114999926770648308'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html?showComment=1149999240000#c114999926770648308' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114976493551359725' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114976493551359725' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 11, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114999754052719296</id><published>2006-06-10T23:45:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-06-10T23:45:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I&#39;m a book dealer, so should know Willeford&#39;s book...</title><summary type='text'>I&#39;m a book dealer, so should know Willeford&#39;s books.  Unless I&#39;m mistaken, he did a fair amount of vanity publishing, no?  I seem to recall seeing these in booksales in the past.  There are dozens of unsung noir whodunit classics, it&#39;s a lost genre.  Except for the waves and waves of imitations that clog up the bookstalls these days.  My wife&#39;s current flame is Donna Leon, all of whose mysteries </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114999754052719296'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114999754052719296'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html?showComment=1149997500000#c114999754052719296' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114976493551359725' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114976493551359725' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 10, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114998962025673915</id><published>2006-06-10T21:33:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-06-10T21:33:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis have you tried Charles Willeford&#39;s Burnt Or...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis have you tried Charles Willeford&#39;s Burnt Orange Heresy?  Willeford taught philosophy in Miami and wrote marvelous little noir novels.  BO Heresy is about a Duchampian painter and a Machiavellian art critic...  Opens with a quote from Gorgias, &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Nothing exists.&lt;BR/&gt;If anything did exist,&lt;BR/&gt;it would be incommunicable...&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Dazzling on every level.  There&#39;s murders, too.  I </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114998962025673915'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114998962025673915'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html?showComment=1149989580000#c114998962025673915' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114976493551359725' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114976493551359725' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 10, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114998872015412531</id><published>2006-06-10T21:18:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-06-10T21:18:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>No, it was &quot;Jake&quot;--not Charles</title><summary type='text'>No, it was &quot;Jake&quot;--not Charles</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114998872015412531'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114998872015412531'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html?showComment=1149988680000#c114998872015412531' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114976493551359725' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114976493551359725' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 10, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114997377950833935</id><published>2006-06-10T17:09:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-06-10T17:09:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;Forget about it, Charles, it&#39;s Chinatown.&quot;</title><summary type='text'>&quot;Forget about it, Charles, it&#39;s Chinatown.&quot;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114997377950833935'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114997377950833935'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html?showComment=1149973740000#c114997377950833935' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114976493551359725' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114976493551359725' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 10, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114995004353655640</id><published>2006-06-10T10:34:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-06-10T10:34:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Chandler--certainly the best and most philosophica...</title><summary type='text'>Chandler--certainly the best and most philosophically sophisticated of the noir mystery writers--says somewhere in a letter that the only refuge from the bestiality and exploitation of the capitalist world is personal affection and loyalty.  (Chandler himself had married a much older, though apparently very beautiful, woman, and was forced to watch her health decline painfully for a long time, </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114995004353655640'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114995004353655640'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html?showComment=1149950040000#c114995004353655640' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114976493551359725' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114976493551359725' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 10, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114989357948445712</id><published>2006-06-09T18:52:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-06-09T18:52:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Lilac,your astonishing utterances really are troub...</title><summary type='text'>Lilac,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;your astonishing utterances really are troubling, if I may say so.  By what doctrine can it be claimed that &quot;Athiests don&#39;t have souls&quot;?  Atheism is a belief entertained by the mind of a human being, yes?  I have studied the Koran somewhat, had dabbled in the Hadith, and have read extensively from works of many esteemed Sufis.  Nowhere have I encoutered the idea that athiests lack</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114989357948445712'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114989357948445712'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html?showComment=1149893520000#c114989357948445712' title=''/><author><name>david raphael israel</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07535589040322113419</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114976493551359725' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114976493551359725' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1441140986"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 09, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114988692156696410</id><published>2006-06-09T17:02:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-06-09T17:02:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>This would make Olson the American noir Heidegger....</title><summary type='text'>This would make Olson the American noir Heidegger.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114988692156696410'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114988692156696410'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html?showComment=1149886920000#c114988692156696410' title=''/><author><name>andy gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00797822725132844348</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114976493551359725' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114976493551359725' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1436621432"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 09, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114988460409293100</id><published>2006-06-09T16:23:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-06-09T16:23:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Hi, Ron,Been enjoying your Olson posts. I agree th...</title><summary type='text'>Hi, Ron,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Been enjoying your Olson posts. I agree the model behind all that valuation of research and crank-academia has much to do with a vision of amateur scholarship that could nevertheless take itself seriously, and which can of course be taken seriously as an anti-professional critique, even implicitly a much broader social critique. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But there&#39;s another model that I kept </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114988460409293100'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114988460409293100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html?showComment=1149884580000#c114988460409293100' title=''/><author><name>Brent Cunningham</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16244764572301596523</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114976493551359725' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114976493551359725' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-622900660"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 09, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114987900024045009</id><published>2006-06-09T14:50:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-06-09T14:50:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Athiests don&#39;t have souls therefore it is pointles...</title><summary type='text'>Athiests don&#39;t have souls therefore it is pointless to consider what it might look like from the view of someone like a Ron Silliman a self declared buddhist-athiest.  (Whatever that is!)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;If you don&#39;t believe in one thing then you don&#39;t get the benefit of the other.  How it is pal.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And the good thing about that is, you can treat anyone however you please like calling them </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114987900024045009'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114987900024045009'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html?showComment=1149879000000#c114987900024045009' title=''/><author><name>Lady Jane</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04555982712708881025</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114976493551359725' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114976493551359725' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1542572767"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 09, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114984693293288051</id><published>2006-06-09T05:55:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-06-09T05:55:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>thinking about this again, i&#39;m wondering if there ...</title><summary type='text'>thinking about this again, i&#39;m wondering if there isn&#39;t in Olson&#39;s &#39;inflectioning&#39; of proprioception something along&lt;BR/&gt;the lines of a refinement of the notion of the &#39;inward turn&#39;..&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;an inward turn which paradoxically is a turning outward..&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;and this seems like both a space&lt;BR/&gt;of silence and creation.. if we accept that in the beginning there was not silence, but an </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114984693293288051'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114984693293288051'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html?showComment=1149846900000#c114984693293288051' title=''/><author><name>phaneronoemikon</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08430230355065457354</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114976493551359725' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114976493551359725' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1411460047"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 09, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114983066415442103</id><published>2006-06-09T01:24:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-06-09T01:24:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Worth noting, though, that the percentage of coher...</title><summary type='text'>Worth noting, though, that the percentage of coherent posts from Phaney has been increasing recently. These are often relevant. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I suspect that Olson&#39;s massive and constant output got him somewhere new--&quot;let&#39;s try this&quot; &quot;now this&quot;--until you get to (as Curtis has been pointing out) the late poetry, where there are flashes of something &quot;beyond&quot; the constant dive into the historical record</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114983066415442103'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114983066415442103'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html?showComment=1149830640000#c114983066415442103' title=''/><author><name>andy gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00797822725132844348</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114976493551359725' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114976493551359725' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1436621432"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 09, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114981320122026031</id><published>2006-06-08T20:33:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-06-08T20:33:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Interesting question, arago.  I&#39;m one of those who...</title><summary type='text'>Interesting question, arago.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I&#39;m one of those who think Stevens and Williams and Pound would all have been avid bloggers.  I think Eliot and Marianne Moore might have been a bit haughty, and deigned only to post occasional missives from the tower.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I&#39;m not sure phaneronoemikon&#39;s posts are worth the effort of deciphering.  The whole point of commenting on things is to make a </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114981320122026031'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114981320122026031'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html?showComment=1149813180000#c114981320122026031' title=''/><author><name>Big2Heart</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08881471362195898761</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114976493551359725' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114976493551359725' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1138120600"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 08, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114979946023301812</id><published>2006-06-08T16:44:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-06-08T16:44:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I&#39;m really enjoying these Olson posts, Ron, and le...</title><summary type='text'>I&#39;m really enjoying these Olson posts, Ron, and learning from them. This is one of the most interesting ones so far.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I wonder though if that issue of professionalization is also in the eye of the beholder. I can recall trying to teach Olson&#39;s essays to undergrad students out in Arizona and being roundly rebuffed by their response. The general complaint was usually that they mistook the </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114979946023301812'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114979946023301812'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html?showComment=1149799440000#c114979946023301812' title=''/><author><name>Tim Peterson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04933998770428587146</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114976493551359725' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114976493551359725' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1753046145"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 08, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114979239194968457</id><published>2006-06-08T14:46:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-06-08T14:46:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>First, proprioception is not replacable by the ter...</title><summary type='text'>First, proprioception is not replacable by the term &quot;rhythm,&quot; it does encapsulate that. How can one say the term &quot;rhthm&quot; is better when one doesn&#39;t even know what &quot;propiocepton means? And it is not a matter of a &quot;part for a whole,&quot; which is closer to the idea of of gestalt phenomenology-pretty much what Whitehead (influence on Olson) would oppose. &lt;BR/&gt;Guess where I learned this. In my attempts </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114979239194968457'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114979239194968457'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html?showComment=1149792360000#c114979239194968457' title=''/><author><name>kfd313</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01639339748894956092</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114976493551359725' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114976493551359725' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-2030273302"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 08, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114979230974444939</id><published>2006-06-08T14:45:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-06-08T14:45:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>First, proprioception is not replacable by the ter...</title><summary type='text'>First, proprioception is not replacable by the term &quot;rhythm,&quot; it does encapsulate that. How can one say the term &quot;rhthm&quot; is better when one doesn&#39;t even know what &quot;propiocepton means? And it is not a matter of a &quot;part for a whole,&quot; which is closer to the idea of of gestalt phenomenology-pretty much what Whitehead (influence on Olson) would oppose. &lt;BR/&gt;Guess where I learned this. In my attempts </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114979230974444939'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114979230974444939'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html?showComment=1149792300000#c114979230974444939' title=''/><author><name>kfd313</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01639339748894956092</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114976493551359725' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114976493551359725' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-2030273302"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 08, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114978624989279579</id><published>2006-06-08T13:04:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-06-08T13:04:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Please tell me how Olson himself might have respon...</title><summary type='text'>Please tell me how Olson himself might have responded to this thread? Would he find phaneronoemikon&#39;s comments the most enlightened?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114978624989279579'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114978624989279579'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html?showComment=1149786240000#c114978624989279579' title=''/><author><name>Arago Press</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01854798848338540056</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114976493551359725' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114976493551359725' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1658279969"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 08, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114978329248721343</id><published>2006-06-08T12:14:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-06-08T12:14:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114978329248721343'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114978329248721343'/><author><name>phaneronoemikon</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08430230355065457354</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114976493551359725' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114976493551359725' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1411460047"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 08, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114978040075525725</id><published>2006-06-08T11:26:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-06-08T11:26:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Sorry myshkin2, but Olson himself was an encyclope...</title><summary type='text'>Sorry myshkin2, but Olson himself was an encyclopedia of &quot;scholasticisms&quot;.  That&#39;s the point--he can hardly be understood without the &quot;ideas&quot;.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114978040075525725'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114978040075525725'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html?showComment=1149780360000#c114978040075525725' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114976493551359725' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114976493551359725' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 08, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114977929333503762</id><published>2006-06-08T11:08:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-06-08T11:08:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Is anyone else getting more and more turned off by...</title><summary type='text'>Is anyone else getting more and more turned off by all this OLSONIA stuff?  I always prefered my CO straight/no chaser.  I always saw him as a sort of sui generis kinda guy...and now, after all these attempts at cross-fertilization, the field&#39;s starting to produce a whole field of mutant aristotelians eager to fit Olson into their moribund scholasiticisms.  At least Ron&#39;s final statement today </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114977929333503762'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114977929333503762'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html?showComment=1149779280000#c114977929333503762' title=''/><author><name>myshkin2</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12334340208396536106</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114976493551359725' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114976493551359725' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-16179833"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 08, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114977880563212440</id><published>2006-06-08T11:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-06-08T11:00:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>This is quite near the mark, Ron.Olson&#39;s use of kn...</title><summary type='text'>This is quite near the mark, Ron.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Olson&#39;s use of knowledge (logos) is exactly like that in the tradition of the amateur talented (and often independently wealthy) 19th and early 20th Century explorer or researcher.  Many of the greatest thinkers of the last 200 years were stifled by the academy, and needed to get outside it, or were simply too far ahead inside their disciplines to waste </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114977880563212440'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/114976493551359725/comments/default/114977880563212440'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html?showComment=1149778800000#c114977880563212440' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/06/suzanne-posted-comment-to-mondays-note.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-114976493551359725' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/114976493551359725' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 08, 2006"/></entry></feed>