<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post115633217517368350..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115633217517368350/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/julias-wild-come-shadow-come-and-take.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>8</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115647510244646935</id><published>2006-08-24T23:05:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-08-24T23:05:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Give me the Dewey reference, and I&#39;d be interested...</title><summary type='text'>Give me the Dewey reference, and I&#39;d be interested to look it up.  Thanks, tmorange.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115633217517368350/comments/default/115647510244646935'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115633217517368350/comments/default/115647510244646935'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/julias-wild-come-shadow-come-and-take.html?showComment=1156475100000#c115647510244646935' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/julias-wild-come-shadow-come-and-take.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115633217517368350' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115633217517368350' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 24, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115645246284380295</id><published>2006-08-24T16:47:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-08-24T16:47:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>interesting question, curtis. the oft-noted shift ...</title><summary type='text'>interesting question, curtis. the oft-noted shift in LZ&#39;s work from politics to domestics/ethics (from marx to spinoza in the two parts of &quot;A&quot;-9) might seem a turning away from what came to be the &quot;old left&quot; reformism 1930s-1960s, where LZ&#39;s objectivist counterparts probably grounded themselves. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;however, my feeling is that LZ&#39;s preference for the clear eye over the erring brain might </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115633217517368350/comments/default/115645246284380295'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115633217517368350/comments/default/115645246284380295'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/julias-wild-come-shadow-come-and-take.html?showComment=1156452420000#c115645246284380295' title=''/><author><name>tmorange</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13540323590390887131</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/julias-wild-come-shadow-come-and-take.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115633217517368350' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115633217517368350' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-348262623"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 24, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115643286240107690</id><published>2006-08-24T11:21:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-08-24T11:21:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I&#39;d be interested in a study of how Zukofsky&#39;s not...</title><summary type='text'>I&#39;d be interested in a study of how Zukofsky&#39;s notion of the clear eye functions in the political realm.  Is there a relationship between his Shakespearean readings and his political feelings during the &#39;Thirties, and then later during the McCarthy Era?  That might involve a reading directed towards the plots of some of the tragedies, the corruption of power, etc.  We seem to be discussing this </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115633217517368350/comments/default/115643286240107690'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115633217517368350/comments/default/115643286240107690'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/julias-wild-come-shadow-come-and-take.html?showComment=1156432860000#c115643286240107690' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/julias-wild-come-shadow-come-and-take.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115633217517368350' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115633217517368350' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 24, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115637117177457686</id><published>2006-08-23T18:12:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-08-23T18:12:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The five sonnets + five lines at the end of “A”-9,...</title><summary type='text'>The five sonnets + five lines at the end of “A”-9, which took Zukofsky eight years to write and were written concurrently with ‘Bottom,’ pretty much spell out Zukofsky’s views on the topic.  He is grappling with the Spinozist tension of body-love-reason, saying (in the last two sonnets) that poetry and love have the transformative qualities to improve upon reason.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In ‘About the Gas Age’ </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115633217517368350/comments/default/115637117177457686'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115633217517368350/comments/default/115637117177457686'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/julias-wild-come-shadow-come-and-take.html?showComment=1156371120000#c115637117177457686' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/julias-wild-come-shadow-come-and-take.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115633217517368350' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115633217517368350' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 23, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115635945152993114</id><published>2006-08-23T14:57:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-08-23T14:57:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Yea, and a case to put it into. But speak you this...</title><summary type='text'>Yea, and a case to put it into. But speak you this with a sad brow? Or do you play the flouting Jack, to tell us Cupid is a good hare-finder and Vulcan a rare carpenter? Come, in what key shall a man take you, to go in the song?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115633217517368350/comments/default/115635945152993114'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115633217517368350/comments/default/115635945152993114'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/julias-wild-come-shadow-come-and-take.html?showComment=1156359420000#c115635945152993114' title=''/><author><name>forkingspoon</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05103242774838156692</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/julias-wild-come-shadow-come-and-take.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115633217517368350' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115633217517368350' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-619181895"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 23, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115635463393445894</id><published>2006-08-23T13:37:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-08-23T13:37:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I&#39;m hearing that Shakespearean formula as a direct...</title><summary type='text'>I&#39;m hearing that Shakespearean formula as a direct build off of &quot;ubi oculus est ibi amor est&quot; archived by Pound in some later Canto &amp; I think copied from Richard of St. Victor. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;As it gets built forward, the trope seems much more passive in Zukofsky. Love and sight as trusted guides, instead of an unruly proliferation of beams. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I think the contrast might mean that Zukofsky </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115633217517368350/comments/default/115635463393445894'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115633217517368350/comments/default/115635463393445894'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/julias-wild-come-shadow-come-and-take.html?showComment=1156354620000#c115635463393445894' title=''/><author><name>buckd_dc</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08893665849436752220</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/julias-wild-come-shadow-come-and-take.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115633217517368350' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115633217517368350' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-11203145"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 23, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115635173739422058</id><published>2006-08-23T12:48:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-08-23T12:48:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>ian, totally; i&#39;ve frequently felt that &quot;as i love...</title><summary type='text'>ian, totally; i&#39;ve frequently felt that &quot;as i love / my poetics&quot; is overlooked in A-12, when it seems key to really getting Zuk. but eyes/sight in zuk is hard to get a handle on, i think; so much of &lt;I&gt;Bottom&lt;/I&gt; is unsighted (pun, ha) (mark?)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;ron, i think i maybe pointed to this when you posted about Charles&#39;s edition of the selected, but i have a &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115633217517368350/comments/default/115635173739422058'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115633217517368350/comments/default/115635173739422058'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/julias-wild-come-shadow-come-and-take.html?showComment=1156351680000#c115635173739422058' title=''/><author><name>Jessica Smith</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04717874657318262267</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/julias-wild-come-shadow-come-and-take.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115633217517368350' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115633217517368350' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1614957257"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 23, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115634930864476745</id><published>2006-08-23T12:08:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-08-23T12:08:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Zukofsky clearly privileges love and eyes over rea...</title><summary type='text'>Zukofsky clearly privileges love and eyes over reason and mind.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115633217517368350/comments/default/115634930864476745'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115633217517368350/comments/default/115634930864476745'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/julias-wild-come-shadow-come-and-take.html?showComment=1156349280000#c115634930864476745' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/08/julias-wild-come-shadow-come-and-take.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115633217517368350' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115633217517368350' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 23, 2006"/></entry></feed>