<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post115797023381537764..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>28</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115876668817768839</id><published>2006-09-20T11:38:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-20T11:38:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Andy, the Russians used every conceivable kind of ...</title><summary type='text'>Andy, the Russians used every conceivable kind of detonating device against the hill tribes in Afganistan, and eventually gave up trying to subdue those ancient peoples.  The interesting fact, which historians and researchers mention over and over again, is that bombing DOESN&#39;T subdue people over the long run.  Even when an area is totally &quot;eradicated&quot;, a kind of grim determination sets in </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115876668817768839'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115876668817768839'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html?showComment=1158766680000#c115876668817768839' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115797023381537764' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115797023381537764' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 20, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115832130998784942</id><published>2006-09-15T07:55:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-15T07:55:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>That is why we call ourselves:the steadfast.  The ...</title><summary type='text'>That is why we call ourselves:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;the steadfast.  The Shi&#39;i are the steadfast.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And believe me, it is not easy but highly rewarding if you can overcome &quot;the definitions&quot; and fears associated with them.  It allows you to say Zionism openly without fear of being labeled an antisemite.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Israel Kirby was a state imposed by the West and the war has not lasted between the Jews </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115832130998784942'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115832130998784942'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html?showComment=1158321300000#c115832130998784942' title=''/><author><name>Lady Jane</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04555982712708881025</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115797023381537764' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115797023381537764' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1542572767"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 15, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115832078815273437</id><published>2006-09-15T07:46:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-15T07:46:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>And the whole idea of Armageddon is exploited by t...</title><summary type='text'>And the whole idea of Armageddon is exploited by those who have used religion to bumfoozle your type.  As well as many other things and has resulted in widespread xenophobia.  That is one of the fundamental reasons why we do not know Mohamed&#39;s skin color or visage nor are we allowed to depict it in any way.  He could have been black Kirby...not this thing where Jesus is depicted as various things</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115832078815273437'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115832078815273437'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html?showComment=1158320760000#c115832078815273437' title=''/><author><name>Lady Jane</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04555982712708881025</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115797023381537764' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115797023381537764' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1542572767"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 15, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115831982866919926</id><published>2006-09-15T07:30:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-15T07:30:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>And like I was telling some people Kirby, in the f...</title><summary type='text'>And like I was telling some people Kirby, in the first days of the Israeli invasion of Lebanon (not the first mind you and that in itself is a telling detail), a tsunami hit once again in Indonesia (was it?). In that tsunami, the death toll rose above the death toll in Lebanon that day which was around 280. You see, once you get that important detail, there is no need to see a &quot;vision&quot; to know </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115831982866919926'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115831982866919926'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html?showComment=1158319800000#c115831982866919926' title=''/><author><name>Lady Jane</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04555982712708881025</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115797023381537764' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115797023381537764' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1542572767"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 15, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115831908583262248</id><published>2006-09-15T07:18:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-15T07:18:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115831908583262248'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115831908583262248'/><author><name>Lady Jane</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04555982712708881025</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115797023381537764' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115797023381537764' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1542572767"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 15, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115825598882809562</id><published>2006-09-14T13:46:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-14T13:46:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I went fishingand hooked some fish.I kept a fewand...</title><summary type='text'>I went fishing&lt;BR/&gt;and hooked some fish.&lt;BR/&gt;I kept a few&lt;BR/&gt;and threw some back.&lt;BR/&gt;Some were not mine to catch.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115825598882809562'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115825598882809562'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html?showComment=1158255960000#c115825598882809562' title=''/><author><name>Lady Jane</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04555982712708881025</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115797023381537764' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115797023381537764' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1542572767"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 14, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115825577031635217</id><published>2006-09-14T13:42:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-14T13:42:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;You are fighting a people who have faith such as ...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;You are fighting a people who have faith such as no one else on the face of the earth possesses. And you have chosen open warfare with a people who take pride in their history, their civilization, and their culture, and who also possess material power, ability, expertise, knowledge, calm, imagination, determination, steadfastness, and courage. In the coming days it will be between us and you, </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115825577031635217'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115825577031635217'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html?showComment=1158255720000#c115825577031635217' title=''/><author><name>Lady Jane</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04555982712708881025</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115797023381537764' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115797023381537764' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1542572767"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 14, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115825552075245240</id><published>2006-09-14T13:38:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-14T13:38:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;All the political issues surrounding that are sti...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;All the political issues surrounding that are still unclear for most of us, I imagine, but Lilac you make it worse for discussing these issues when you raise the stakes so high for any kind of dissent with you.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Kirby, the crucifiction is still unclear to you so what can I say?&lt;BR/&gt;Fix it.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;As for raising the stakes Kirbsky, I didn&#39;t &#39;condition&#39; an invasion but I predated it for</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115825552075245240'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115825552075245240'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html?showComment=1158255480000#c115825552075245240' title=''/><author><name>Lady Jane</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04555982712708881025</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115797023381537764' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115797023381537764' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1542572767"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 14, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115824920338007844</id><published>2006-09-14T11:53:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-14T11:53:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron,Thank you for your kind note! I wrote about th...</title><summary type='text'>Ron,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Thank you for your kind note! I wrote about this on my blog.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;http://saintelizabethstreet.blogspot.com/&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;JB</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115824920338007844'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115824920338007844'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html?showComment=1158249180000#c115824920338007844' title=''/><author><name>Editors</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15931457867406555423</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115797023381537764' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115797023381537764' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-547270347"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 14, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115810342530839786</id><published>2006-09-12T19:23:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-12T19:23:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Editors,No,that&#39;s a fair complaint. I was writing ...</title><summary type='text'>Editors,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;No,that&#39;s a fair complaint. I was writing fast and didn&#39;t stop to think of a more appropriate phrasing. I do find, tho, that there is almost always going to be some complaint about certain categories, regardless.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115810342530839786'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115810342530839786'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html?showComment=1158103380000#c115810342530839786' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115797023381537764' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115797023381537764' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 12, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115810247064417541</id><published>2006-09-12T19:07:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-12T19:07:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Kirby,I get the politics of Howe&#39;s work through re...</title><summary type='text'>Kirby,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I get the politics of Howe&#39;s work through reading larger quantities of it. The ethics of her writing is (are?) very much bound up with an idiosyncratic (and pretty fascinating, I think, to the extent that I&#39;ve been able to understand it) form of &quot;liberation theology&quot; Catholicism, with some &quot;negative theology&quot; in there too.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Lilac,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I don&#39;t think poets have been </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115810247064417541'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115810247064417541'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html?showComment=1158102420000#c115810247064417541' title=''/><author><name>andy gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00797822725132844348</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115797023381537764' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115797023381537764' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1436621432"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 12, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115808854163260475</id><published>2006-09-12T15:15:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-12T15:15:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Andy and Omby, it helped me to see some of the thi...</title><summary type='text'>Andy and Omby, it helped me to see some of the things the way you guys see them.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;So thanks.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Is M11 a reference to the first World Trade Center bombing?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;All the political issues surrounding that are still unclear for most of us, I imagine, but Lilac you make it worse for discussing these issues when you raise the stakes so high for any kind of dissent with you.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115808854163260475'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115808854163260475'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html?showComment=1158088500000#c115808854163260475' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115797023381537764' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115797023381537764' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 12, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115807852542672710</id><published>2006-09-12T12:28:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-12T12:28:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron,I hate to be PC, but it drives me nuts when wr...</title><summary type='text'>Ron,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I hate to be PC, but it drives me nuts when writers call people with disabilities &quot;the disabled.&quot; It&#39;s like saying the gays, the Jews, or the blacks. I hope I wasn&#39;t too snotty!</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115807852542672710'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115807852542672710'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html?showComment=1158078480000#c115807852542672710' title=''/><author><name>Editors</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15931457867406555423</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115797023381537764' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115797023381537764' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-547270347"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 12, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115807363851390718</id><published>2006-09-12T11:07:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-12T11:07:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Lilac---how do you get Zionism out of this?....Are...</title><summary type='text'>Lilac---how do you get Zionism out of this?....&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Are you saying it obfuscates the reality of the roots of Islamic terrorism, distracting from the  facts and ethical urgency of what&#39;s going on, tossing off impressive-sounding simple-minded inaccurate abstractions like &quot;You see, parts don’t add up when love is missing&quot; as if they were valid explanations (Auden&#39;s &quot;We must love one another or</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115807363851390718'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115807363851390718'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html?showComment=1158073620000#c115807363851390718' title=''/><author><name>ombilic des</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03318554537326184413</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115797023381537764' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115797023381537764' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1506852026"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 12, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115805422233753336</id><published>2006-09-12T05:43:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-12T05:43:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Zionism Ron.Here is a haiku for ya:Israel just dro...</title><summary type='text'>Zionism Ron.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Here is a haiku for ya:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Israel just dropped&lt;BR/&gt;a million cluster bombs&lt;BR/&gt;paid for by Americans.&lt;BR/&gt;The poets maintained their&lt;BR/&gt;complacent silence, &lt;BR/&gt;as is their usual.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Sorry, that isn&#39;t really a haiku but then again, this isn&#39;t a poetry board either.  It is propaganda used to make poets write nonsense.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115805422233753336'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115805422233753336'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html?showComment=1158054180000#c115805422233753336' title=''/><author><name>Lady Jane</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04555982712708881025</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115797023381537764' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115797023381537764' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1542572767"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 12, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115804661243473858</id><published>2006-09-12T03:36:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-12T03:36:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I don&#39;t think its ever happind befoor that I&#39;ve ri...</title><summary type='text'>I don&#39;t think its ever happind befoor that I&#39;ve ritten &quot;hear&quot; when I ment &quot;here.&quot;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115804661243473858'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115804661243473858'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html?showComment=1158046560000#c115804661243473858' title=''/><author><name>andy gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00797822725132844348</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115797023381537764' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115797023381537764' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1436621432"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 12, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115804650804667833</id><published>2006-09-12T03:35:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-12T03:35:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Kirby,The way I see it, what&#39;s there is there. Tho...</title><summary type='text'>Kirby,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The way I see it, what&#39;s there is there. Those words, in those orders, in the social contexts Howe and the poems and we are in. So there&#39;s no secret, no code, just the ways things resonate with each other and their possible contexts. Does that make sense?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The emotional tenor of the poems, plus particular word choices, plus juxtapositions, relations of parts that aren&#39;t </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115804650804667833'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115804650804667833'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html?showComment=1158046500000#c115804650804667833' title=''/><author><name>andy gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00797822725132844348</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115797023381537764' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115797023381537764' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1436621432"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 12, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115804514428402213</id><published>2006-09-12T03:12:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-12T03:12:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;Kneeling Bus&quot;: &quot;Lifting Belly&quot;?&quot;Sleeping Beauty.&quot;...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;Kneeling Bus&quot;: &quot;Lifting Belly&quot;?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;Sleeping Beauty.&quot; Terse title- caption of a painting (&quot;Sleeping Girl&quot;, &quot;Weeping Mother&quot;) or photo. Futurist centaur.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Imaginary crossword puzzles with real wounds in them. (Real stigmata, padded with shadows?)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Establishing a metric or base rhythmic unit is usually said to require at least two units in a row: &quot;My church the bus&quot;, sheerest</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115804514428402213'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115804514428402213'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html?showComment=1158045120000#c115804514428402213' title=''/><author><name>ombilic des</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03318554537326184413</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to 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2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115804388753215963</id><published>2006-09-12T02:51:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-12T02:51:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115804388753215963'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115804388753215963'/><author><name>ombilic des</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03318554537326184413</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' 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href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115797023381537764' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115797023381537764' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1506852026"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 12, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115801678638192147</id><published>2006-09-11T19:19:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-11T19:19:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I felt on reading these poems that they weren&#39;t gr...</title><summary type='text'>I felt on reading these poems that they weren&#39;t grounded, and so I didn&#39;t know what I was reading.  When Ron read through them bringing in 9/11 and such I felt the basic building blocks of material reality were there again enough to &quot;follow&quot; the poems, but then I wasn&#39;t sure if Ron&#39;s references were Howe&#39;s references.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I looked them up in Amazon.com, and read one poem called 9/11 but </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115801678638192147'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115801678638192147'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html?showComment=1158016740000#c115801678638192147' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115797023381537764' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115797023381537764' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 11, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115800664015284832</id><published>2006-09-11T16:30:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-11T16:30:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Fanny Howe is amazing. I read the book faster than...</title><summary type='text'>Fanny Howe is amazing. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I read the book faster than you, Ron, but I&#39;m on my fourth time now. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Nearly all her work is devastating. She writes perhaps the best political poetry, the best religious poetry, the best lyrics of loneliness, around. Her writing manages, at the same time, to not boil down to any of those things, but also to treat them in a fashion that isn&#39;t without </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115800664015284832'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115800664015284832'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html?showComment=1158006600000#c115800664015284832' title=''/><author><name>andy gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00797822725132844348</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115797023381537764' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115797023381537764' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1436621432"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 11, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115800256896967604</id><published>2006-09-11T15:22:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-11T15:22:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Zizek&#39;s piece in the Guardian this weekend critici...</title><summary type='text'>Zizek&#39;s piece in the Guardian this weekend criticizes recent 9-11 films for a &quot;realism&quot; that focuses on individual experience at the expense of the &quot;cognitive mapping&quot; needed to confront the meaning -- political, ethical -- of those events (and, by extension, that experience).&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;To the extent that On the Ground, or &quot;Kneeling Bus,&quot; respond to the same events, their realism -- &quot;just the eyes</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115800256896967604'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115797023381537764/comments/default/115800256896967604'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html?showComment=1158002520000#c115800256896967604' title=''/><author><name>Kirk Johnson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05529898733002317995</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-began-reading-fanny-howes-on-ground.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115797023381537764' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115797023381537764' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-895736745"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 11, 2006"/></entry></feed>