<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post115918125531327358..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>24</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115956047340348878</id><published>2006-09-29T16:07:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-29T16:07:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Man Curtis, you have a way to go  :) but I appreci...</title><summary type='text'>Man Curtis, you have a way to go  :) but I appreciate your friendliness in asking  :)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I left on the USS Trent in July and met the famous Nelson LeBron who spun the Leatherman for me.  :)  One of the best boat rides I&#39;ve ever had...next to that trip over to Rumeli Castle.  What a fortress!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The refugee center was fantastic...love the way they invented a method of heating up the </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115956047340348878'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115956047340348878'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html?showComment=1159560420000#c115956047340348878' title=''/><author><name>Lady Jane</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04555982712708881025</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115918125531327358' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115918125531327358' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1542572767"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 29, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115954478247097915</id><published>2006-09-29T11:46:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-29T11:46:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I guess I neglected to mention that I’ve always th...</title><summary type='text'>I guess I neglected to mention that I’ve always thought Niedecker stayed in Wisconsin FOR THE RIGHT REASONS.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It’s odd how people deliberately misread or misconstrue what you say.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Did I say that Niedecker’s studied rusticity was inferior to a studied urbanity (or cosmopolitanism)?  Not that I recall.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Lilac:  Your biography’s a mystery to me.  How did you end up in </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115954478247097915'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115954478247097915'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html?showComment=1159544760000#c115954478247097915' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115918125531327358' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115918125531327358' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 29, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115953734986402105</id><published>2006-09-29T09:42:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-29T09:42:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>mmm, a most interesting sharing, thanks.In North I...</title><summary type='text'>mmm, a most interesting sharing, thanks.&lt;BR/&gt;In North India / Pakistan (at least), there seems to have been some melding of the Shia and Sufism -- this noted and inferred simply from evidence of the Qawalli music/poetry.  When the late Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan would sing of Hadrat Ali, the ideal as presented seemed to me internal (mystical) rather than political (concerned with historical grievances</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115953734986402105'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115953734986402105'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html?showComment=1159537320000#c115953734986402105' title=''/><author><name>david raphael israel</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07535589040322113419</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115918125531327358' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115918125531327358' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1441140986"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 29, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115950935226036252</id><published>2006-09-29T01:55:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-29T01:55:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>And David, I didn&#39;t mean to ignore that nice bunch...</title><summary type='text'>And David, I didn&#39;t mean to ignore that nice bunch you wrote there.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Islam does do and suggest that tolerance...but do you believe me about that?  Do I believe myself?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Oh dear.  That is the crux isn&#39;t it?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;When in fact, you reach what is called certitude about it...then you are on another plane...a very, very sticky wicket.  Absolutely.  That certitude can take on many </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115950935226036252'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115950935226036252'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html?showComment=1159509300000#c115950935226036252' title=''/><author><name>Lady Jane</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04555982712708881025</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115918125531327358' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115918125531327358' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1542572767"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 29, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115949475213934346</id><published>2006-09-28T21:52:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-28T21:52:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Niedecker to Edward Dahlberg, January 4, 1956:&quot;Alf...</title><summary type='text'>Niedecker to Edward Dahlberg, January 4, 1956:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;Alfred North Whitehead thinks civilization is going to get a new start in grass-roots Midwest so I&#39;ll see what I can do while you are in the woods of New York.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;~~~  ~~~  ~~~&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;from _Niedecker and the Correspondence with Zukofsky 1931-1937_ ed. Jenny Penberthy (Cambridge University Press, 1993)</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115949475213934346'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115949475213934346'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html?showComment=1159494720000#c115949475213934346' title=''/><author><name>Lighting the Lucid Lisp</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/10201267204005472679</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115918125531327358' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115918125531327358' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-318219068"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 28, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115948919422400476</id><published>2006-09-28T20:19:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-28T20:19:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>:)Curtis, come on now.  No one thinks she is Emily...</title><summary type='text'>:)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Curtis, come on now.  No one thinks she is Emily Dickenson here.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;:)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And certainly, no professional poet writes poems &quot;accidentally&quot;...do they?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I would assume that her goal was to preserve something she found valuable, as I find Bisbee valuable.  Or Beirut.  Or Riyadh.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And, I don&#39;t think you read the entire piece either.  I thought it was quite good </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115948919422400476'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115948919422400476'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html?showComment=1159489140000#c115948919422400476' title=''/><author><name>Lady Jane</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04555982712708881025</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115918125531327358' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115918125531327358' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1542572767"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 28, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115947606165098901</id><published>2006-09-28T16:41:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-28T16:41:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>footnote:Hey O.D. --so here I am, listening to Dav...</title><summary type='text'>footnote:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Hey O.D. --&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;so here I am, listening to David Antin&#39;s talk called &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/antin/index.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;War&lt;/A&gt; (given to the Poetics Program, SUNY-Buffalo, March 26, 2003), and around minute 33 [I think] of his enjoyable ramble (through an intellectual history of things related or relatable to the Iraq war and its underpinnings), he </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115947606165098901'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115947606165098901'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html?showComment=1159476060000#c115947606165098901' title=''/><author><name>david raphael israel</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07535589040322113419</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115918125531327358' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115918125531327358' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1441140986"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 28, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115946440183017738</id><published>2006-09-28T13:26:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-28T13:26:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>lilac:  Your tag reference on Lorine Niedecker is ...</title><summary type='text'>lilac:  Your tag reference on Lorine Niedecker is very out of date.  From This Condensary: The Complete Poems - Jargon Press 1985, and The Complete Works - University of California Press 2002, the latter being still (as far as I know) in print.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Niedecker’s famous “isolation” only makes sense if you accept the notion of a social context of urban locale.  This business of rural seclusion </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115946440183017738'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115946440183017738'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html?showComment=1159464360000#c115946440183017738' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115918125531327358' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115918125531327358' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 28, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115946047023373721</id><published>2006-09-28T12:21:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-28T12:21:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Well Zeke, something you may have noticed, or mayb...</title><summary type='text'>Well Zeke, something you may have noticed, or maybe not, is that the single largest audience you or I would ever face as poets, is other poets.  It is a tough sell just to be a poet and then, as you  have so brilliantly pointed out to me (must be the hundredth time Zeke) religion isn&#39;t a favorable position to take anymore...so...you get two strikes against you.  Or me rather, you are a guy and </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115946047023373721'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115946047023373721'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html?showComment=1159460460000#c115946047023373721' title=''/><author><name>Lady Jane</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04555982712708881025</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115918125531327358' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115918125531327358' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1542572767"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 28, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115945147912693458</id><published>2006-09-28T09:51:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-28T09:51:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>dear Lilac,I enjoyed the mystical formulation your...</title><summary type='text'>dear Lilac,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I enjoyed the mystical formulation your offer:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;&lt; But Islam is non negotiable and it existed prior to mankind itself. It is the original philosophy behind all prophets, religions and peoples. &gt;&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;This broadens (and de-literalizes) the definition of &quot;Islam,&quot; doesn&#39;t it?  If Islam (the surrender to Allah) has existed continuously from the beginning, and yet (</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115945147912693458'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115945147912693458'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html?showComment=1159451460000#c115945147912693458' title=''/><author><name>david raphael israel</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07535589040322113419</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115918125531327358' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115918125531327358' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1441140986"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 28, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115943223650944654</id><published>2006-09-28T04:30:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-28T04:30:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115943223650944654'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115943223650944654'/><author><name>Harris Feinsod</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03078776539358791387</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115918125531327358' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115918125531327358' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1662537402"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 28, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115942374588058440</id><published>2006-09-28T02:09:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-28T02:09:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Argue with someone who has &#39;confidence&#39; in their a...</title><summary type='text'>Argue with someone who has &#39;confidence&#39; in their arguement and you are wasting your time.  False confidence, who knows when they have false confidence.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;At one point some were confident that the world was flat, that the universe revolved around the earth, that witches and so called heritics and non-believers should be burned.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;A ML baseball player I know is confidant that </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115942374588058440'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115942374588058440'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html?showComment=1159423740000#c115942374588058440' title=''/><author><name>Zeke Hunkaburning</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05144662896092856507</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115918125531327358' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115918125531327358' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-820081779"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 28, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115935439781393931</id><published>2006-09-27T06:53:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-27T06:53:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Well David, it is a challenge to your beliefs or t...</title><summary type='text'>Well David, it is a challenge to your beliefs or the beliefs of anyone in particular, be they Jewish or non.  Heh, be they a fundie Al Qaeda die hard.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Suffice it to say however that Islam is pretty much &quot;non negotiable&quot; and anyone facing the challenges of someone like me, will have a hard time doing so when in fact, it is said in one Sura that it doesn&#39;t profit me anything for you to </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115935439781393931'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115935439781393931'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html?showComment=1159354380000#c115935439781393931' title=''/><author><name>Lady Jane</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04555982712708881025</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115918125531327358' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115918125531327358' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1542572767"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 27, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115932658469034837</id><published>2006-09-26T23:09:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-26T23:09:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Lilac,I do not doubt that the fruit of the path of...</title><summary type='text'>Lilac,&lt;BR/&gt;I do not doubt that the fruit of the path of Islam is what the old doctors of theology carefully termed &quot;certainty.&quot;  Still and all, about your utterance --&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;&lt;  I have confidence you see. You can&#39;t have my kind of confidence because 1)you are not muslims and 2) you are certainly not a bunch of Shi&#39;i. &gt;&gt; &lt;BR/&gt;this happens to call to mind an interview with Salvador Dali.  The famous </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115932658469034837'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115932658469034837'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html?showComment=1159326540000#c115932658469034837' title=''/><author><name>david raphael israel</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07535589040322113419</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115918125531327358' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115918125531327358' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1441140986"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 26, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115930600177585118</id><published>2006-09-26T17:26:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-26T17:26:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Lilac,Your most recent post has its true pleasures...</title><summary type='text'>Lilac,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Your most recent post has its true pleasures for me, but...ahem, should I jump into this sort of topic...well, we will all be mature, right, and, besides mature, Forever Young, in our discussions?...alright, what means your cryptic reference to Lisablog?  Does Lisa J. exhibit the sort of consciousness about the Middle East that you&#39;d like Westerners to have? I note especially her </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115930600177585118'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115930600177585118'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html?showComment=1159305960000#c115930600177585118' title=''/><author><name>Stephen Baraban</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09637400683517160112</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115918125531327358' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115918125531327358' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-290229728"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 26, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115928632340694911</id><published>2006-09-26T11:58:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-26T11:58:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Steve Vincent suggests that that might be Stan Ric...</title><summary type='text'>Steve Vincent suggests that that might be Stan Rice rather than Stan Persky, since Dahlen worked at the Poetry Center during Rice&#39;s tenure as the director there. Perhaps, but addressing Rice in such terms is an even more radical move, if you think about it. Stan never did come to terms with the wealth of contempory poetries he found around himself in San Francisco.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115928632340694911'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115928632340694911'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html?showComment=1159286280000#c115928632340694911' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115918125531327358' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115918125531327358' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 26, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115924958782073408</id><published>2006-09-26T01:46:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-26T01:46:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Well, I don&#39;t know what to say about that kind of ...</title><summary type='text'>Well, I don&#39;t know what to say about that kind of blather, honestly.  Cuba.  Esperanto and all of that.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Thing is, I read differently than ALL of you here.  I read as a muslim, I watch movies (today, the Assassination of Richard Nixon) as a muslim and sleep snugly in my bed each and every night not wondering what all this is about.  I have confidence you see.  You can&#39;t have my kind of </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115924958782073408'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115924958782073408'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html?showComment=1159249560000#c115924958782073408' title=''/><author><name>Lady Jane</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04555982712708881025</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115918125531327358' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115918125531327358' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1542572767"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 26, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115923833126507657</id><published>2006-09-25T22:38:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-25T22:38:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Thank you.</title><summary type='text'>Thank you.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115923833126507657'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115923833126507657'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html?showComment=1159238280000#c115923833126507657' title=''/><author><name>Lester</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04219479023387881600</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115918125531327358' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115918125531327358' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1478288716"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 25, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115922519841252592</id><published>2006-09-25T18:59:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-25T18:59:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Well, but this opening of OD&#39;s is as susceptible o...</title><summary type='text'>Well, but this opening of OD&#39;s is as susceptible of dismissal as the dismissal it contains, isn&#39;t it?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;&lt; &quot;that desire is that which by definition can never be fulfilled.”&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Oh, bullocks. Desire is a part of real psychology. It&#39;s anchored in the world, not in a definition. &gt;&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Oh, bullocks, real psychology is not fundamentally known in all of its nuances, dimensions, </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115922519841252592'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115922519841252592'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html?showComment=1159225140000#c115922519841252592' title=''/><author><name>david raphael israel</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07535589040322113419</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115918125531327358' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115918125531327358' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1441140986"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 25, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115921604672458185</id><published>2006-09-25T16:27:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-25T16:27:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Oof.Inspiring, Dahlen&#39;s willingness (or what shoul...</title><summary type='text'>Oof.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Inspiring, Dahlen&#39;s willingness (or what should I call it? It takes some kind of resolve, some kind of nerve) to move between these &quot;genres&quot; this way (essay, poem, letter, things in-between) without, apparently, feeling the need to tie it all together into a whole or a style. Seems like I finally need to start reading her stuff, for all the frustration of inaccessibility this post </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115921604672458185'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115921604672458185'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html?showComment=1159216020000#c115921604672458185' title=''/><author><name>andy gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00797822725132844348</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115918125531327358' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115918125531327358' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1436621432"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 25, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115921186099598439</id><published>2006-09-25T15:17:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-25T15:17:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>For a moment I thought that said porridge. &gt;&gt;I thi...</title><summary type='text'>&lt;&lt; &quot;sold for a mess of pottage&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;For a moment I thought that said porridge. &gt;&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I think pottage can sometimes be porridge.  Anyway: food cooked in a pot.  I presume the Biblical tale can be found in Wikipedia.&lt;BR/&gt;But thanks about the Homer.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115921186099598439'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115921186099598439'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html?showComment=1159211820000#c115921186099598439' title=''/><author><name>david raphael israel</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07535589040322113419</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115918125531327358' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115918125531327358' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1441140986"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 25, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115921159495485250</id><published>2006-09-25T15:13:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-25T15:13:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;that desire is that which by definition can never...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;that desire is that which by definition can never be fulfilled.”&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Oh, bullocks. Desire is a part of real psychology. It&#39;s anchored in the world, not in a definition. Anchored in the flights and fights and fits and recurrent fittings and predictive flits of oceanic depths and peaks and whipping waves of quantum foam and glacially plastic space-time torsion.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I wonder what she </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115921159495485250'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115921159495485250'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html?showComment=1159211580000#c115921159495485250' title=''/><author><name>ombilic des</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03318554537326184413</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115918125531327358' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115918125531327358' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1506852026"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 25, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115920791719228852</id><published>2006-09-25T14:11:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-25T14:11:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;The gods are our children.     Eat.Eat the hear, ...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;The gods are our children.     Eat.&lt;BR/&gt;Eat the hear, the leg, the thigh,&lt;BR/&gt;all the parts.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt; &lt;BR/&gt;Is that &lt;I&gt;hear&lt;/I&gt; or &lt;I&gt;heart&lt;/I&gt;?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;the tattered fronds of the holy ghost&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Hear I definitely think playing off the expectation of bonds. Softened, if not friended. Weedy.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;I&gt;Referencing Pound (“No man…) and Creeley (“I is…)&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;No man&quot; comes from Homer (</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115920791719228852'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115920791719228852'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html?showComment=1159207860000#c115920791719228852' title=''/><author><name>ombilic des</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03318554537326184413</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115918125531327358' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115918125531327358' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1506852026"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 25, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115919020726880127</id><published>2006-09-25T09:16:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-25T09:16:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Close but no cigar.</title><summary type='text'>Close but no cigar.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115919020726880127'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/115918125531327358/comments/default/115919020726880127'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html?showComment=1159190160000#c115919020726880127' title=''/><author><name>Lady Jane</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04555982712708881025</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/09/beverly-dahlen-is-most-enigmatic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-115918125531327358' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/115918125531327358' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1542572767"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 25, 2006"/></entry></feed>