<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post116099580733958884..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>34</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116153974080750435</id><published>2006-10-22T13:55:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-22T13:55:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>One  aspect of Ron’s criticism I find intriguing—t...</title><summary type='text'>One  aspect of Ron’s criticism I find intriguing—&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;the use of the word “and”.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The first writer I ever read who understood the power of “and” and how to set up a compelling rhythm of objective phrases, was Hemingway in his early short stories.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Tomlinson’s use of it here--…”from thousands AND comes on:/AND they are ready for it…” works precisely as he implies—as a </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116153974080750435'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116153974080750435'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html?showComment=1161539700000#c116153974080750435' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116099580733958884' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116099580733958884' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 22, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116136983837299104</id><published>2006-10-20T14:43:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-20T14:43:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Cso’ delightful post expresses to me the way in wh...</title><summary type='text'>Cso’ delightful post expresses to me the way in which the accelerated flow of information and the internet will effect more and more poets from Ireland and Great Britain.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I used to visit often and go to every book store and poetry event I could and was able to get a sense of the traditions that people were reacting to, especially in Ireland before the EU when people seemed to stuck on </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116136983837299104'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116136983837299104'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html?showComment=1161369780000#c116136983837299104' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116099580733958884' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116099580733958884' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 20, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116132762518362515</id><published>2006-10-20T03:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-20T03:00:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;They didn&#39;t have toilets in the rooms!&quot;And,---unl...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;They didn&#39;t have toilets in the rooms!&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And,---unlike such evolved Americans as Kirby Faville,---they didn&#39;t even have toilets in their brains!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Much less their frenetically typing (down-up, down-up, like the shit on which we sup / as if it were the nectar of the nipples that plunge down / dan-gull-in&#39; and bobbin&#39; like smoke out of the frown / of a pot-head bobbin&#39; for apples </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116132762518362515'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116132762518362515'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html?showComment=1161327600000#c116132762518362515' title=''/><author><name>ombilic des</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03318554537326184413</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116099580733958884' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116099580733958884' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1506852026"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 20, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116130422406710450</id><published>2006-10-19T20:30:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-19T20:30:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I shit beds that you sleep on like medsAs if Edwar...</title><summary type='text'>I shit beds that you sleep on like meds&lt;BR/&gt;As if Edward Lear rocked y&#39; like the feds&lt;BR/&gt;And the psylocibin in my spittle be yo&#39; beds</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116130422406710450'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116130422406710450'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html?showComment=1161304200000#c116130422406710450' title=''/><author><name>ombilic des</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03318554537326184413</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116099580733958884' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116099580733958884' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1506852026"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 19, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116123828640341910</id><published>2006-10-19T02:11:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-19T02:11:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>J&#39;e suspect itmight be funer to read w.c.w. in fre...</title><summary type='text'>J&#39;e suspect itmight be funer to read w.c.w. in french hearing accents none hear in the english. as for the &#39;irish are alright&#39; ... hmm, dear, well, who are the &#39;irish?&#39; frank o&#39;hara, could be, is indeed, heard as irish if yer reading himwith the accent. J&#39;e have a feeling the idea of island english come from an essay by Charles Bernstein wherin he make that distinction between so-named island </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116123828640341910'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116123828640341910'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html?showComment=1161238260000#c116123828640341910' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116099580733958884' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116099580733958884' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1329653045"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 19, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116118248714480555</id><published>2006-10-18T10:41:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-18T10:41:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I read Larkin, though I am confused by the geograp...</title><summary type='text'>I read Larkin, though I am confused by the geographical references.  I love Larkin!  I love Larkin! I love Larkin!  He was a librarian in a city called Hull.  I met a man once whose father worked in the sewers of Hull.  He was an academic, but still very bitter about the class differences he felt with other academics.  His mom was a prostitute.  I doubt if any person from such circumstances could</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116118248714480555'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116118248714480555'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html?showComment=1161182460000#c116118248714480555' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116099580733958884' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116099580733958884' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 18, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116116569370303029</id><published>2006-10-18T06:01:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-18T06:01:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Yep, Hyde Park.Yeah, and you&#39;re lucky if you can f...</title><summary type='text'>Yep, Hyde Park.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Yeah, and you&#39;re lucky if you can fit a small armchair in. Apparently, J.K. Rowling was living in one, before Harry Potter started giving us nightmares. . . .&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Thanks for letting us have our completely off-topic discussion, Ron.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116116569370303029'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116116569370303029'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html?showComment=1161165660000#c116116569370303029' title=''/><author><name>Kevin Doran</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08640770705948611352</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116099580733958884' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116099580733958884' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-405491431"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 18, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116116511421650122</id><published>2006-10-18T05:51:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-18T05:51:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Bedsit is short for bedsittingroom Kirby, in other...</title><summary type='text'>Bedsit is short for bedsittingroom Kirby, in other words a &#39;studio apartment&#39; in which everything is in one room. The English version has connotations of drabness or even a rather sordid, diminished existence. I know you probably wouldn&#39;t dream of reading Larkin, but his &#39;Mr Bleaney&#39; evokes it vividly: &#39;Flowered curtains, thin and frayed, / Fall to within five inches of the sill, // Whose window </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116116511421650122'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116116511421650122'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html?showComment=1161165060000#c116116511421650122' title=''/><author><name>Mark Granier</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11217856911720898729</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116099580733958884' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116099580733958884' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-876787782"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 18, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116112447874250089</id><published>2006-10-17T18:34:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-17T18:34:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I really enjoyed England and wished desperately to...</title><summary type='text'>I really enjoyed England and wished desperately to live there at the time but it didn&#39;t seem feasible.  Ugliness and beauty, by the way, are reversible depending on the mood.  (I like to tease is all.)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I stayed at the Edward Lear Hotel if you know it, and from there would walk through some huge park (Hyde park?) over to the area of the British museum and stuff.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I also met the </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116112447874250089'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116112447874250089'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html?showComment=1161124440000#c116112447874250089' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116099580733958884' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116099580733958884' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116111723126383649</id><published>2006-10-17T16:33:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-17T16:33:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Kevin,Eric&#39;s post only makes sense if one has read...</title><summary type='text'>Kevin,&lt;BR/&gt;Eric&#39;s post only makes sense if one has read the antecedent post (from Kirby) that Eric was attempting (successfully or not, you may judge) to satirize.  His characterizations are, in other words, evidently intended to be pointedly ironic, not flat.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;for what worth,&lt;BR/&gt;d.i.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116111723126383649'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116111723126383649'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html?showComment=1161117180000#c116111723126383649' title=''/><author><name>david raphael israel</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07535589040322113419</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116099580733958884' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116099580733958884' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1441140986"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116111590103296757</id><published>2006-10-17T16:11:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-17T16:11:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>phaneronoemikon, when i said &#39;previous comment&#39;, i...</title><summary type='text'>phaneronoemikon, when i said &#39;previous comment&#39;, i meant Eric&#39;s: you slipped-in.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Kirby, a bed sit is a single room with a bed. Living at its most basic. Difficult to re-sell. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Were you on the Tube? Some lines would make anyone look &lt;I&gt;and&lt;/I&gt; feel sick. And what part of London were you unfortunate (by the sound of it) enough to visit?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116111590103296757'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116111590103296757'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html?showComment=1161115860000#c116111590103296757' title=''/><author><name>Kevin Doran</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08640770705948611352</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116099580733958884' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116099580733958884' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-405491431"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116111417582548565</id><published>2006-10-17T15:42:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-17T15:42:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>That&#39;s what happens when you comment first thing i...</title><summary type='text'>That&#39;s what happens when you comment first thing in the morning, hurriedly before a lecture (which i then had to run to), and without coffee. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I would&#39;ve understood the second paragraph, if it didn&#39;t draw my attention away by being topped off by this: &#39;cheers on ya, mate&#39;. I&#39;ve never heard anyone in England say that, and i thought you were someone outside the country, trying to imitate </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116111417582548565'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116111417582548565'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html?showComment=1161114120000#c116111417582548565' title=''/><author><name>Kevin Doran</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08640770705948611352</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116099580733958884' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116099580733958884' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-405491431"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116111016840709929</id><published>2006-10-17T14:36:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-17T14:36:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>In fact in New York everyone looks like a fashion ...</title><summary type='text'>In fact in New York everyone looks like a fashion plate especially down in the Wall Street area and up to about 30th street.  Then people start to look a little bit middle-aged and frumpy until about 70th street, and then people look pretty good again until about 119th street on the west (Columbia University area) and on the east side until about 100th.  I have never been above the 100th on the </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116111016840709929'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116111016840709929'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html?showComment=1161110160000#c116111016840709929' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116099580733958884' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116099580733958884' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116110932845722104</id><published>2006-10-17T14:22:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-17T14:22:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>It doesn&#39;t surprise me that you&#39;ve been drinking t...</title><summary type='text'>It doesn&#39;t surprise me that you&#39;ve been drinking tea, Ron, for many an odd year.  You&#39;ve always been ahead of the times, and tea is generally better for you, though I do like the bitterness of coffee.  Beauty is generally based upon symmetry and proportion, though I guess we all have different standards as to what symmetries and what proportions are important.    &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Does the tendency to </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116110932845722104'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116110932845722104'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html?showComment=1161109320000#c116110932845722104' title=''/><author><name>Brett</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09958984151677722851</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116099580733958884' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116099580733958884' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1222757787"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116110201332901899</id><published>2006-10-17T12:20:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-17T12:20:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116110201332901899'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116110201332901899'/><author><name>phaneronoemikon</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08430230355065457354</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116099580733958884' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116099580733958884' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1411460047"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116110050780331643</id><published>2006-10-17T11:55:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-17T11:55:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116110050780331643'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116110050780331643'/><author><name>phaneronoemikon</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08430230355065457354</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116099580733958884' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116099580733958884' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1411460047"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116109642772656056</id><published>2006-10-17T10:47:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-17T10:47:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>what i love about the british is their ability to ...</title><summary type='text'>what i love about the british is their ability to laugh at absurdity, and i found kirby&#39;s comments absurdly funny in that regard. i am british, to add some context. feathers can defluff now...</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116109642772656056'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116109642772656056'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html?showComment=1161096420000#c116109642772656056' title=''/><author><name>eric d</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04379940441617523445</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116099580733958884' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116099580733958884' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1704238248"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116109349517165339</id><published>2006-10-17T09:58:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-17T09:58:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>phaneronoemikon asked:What dialect is the Meat Pup...</title><summary type='text'>phaneronoemikon asked:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;I&gt;What dialect is the Meat Puppets first album in?&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The now defunct CBGB dialect.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;peace, love and understanding (never give up the punk rock!)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Steve Petermeier&lt;BR/&gt;no man&#39;s land&lt;BR/&gt;minneapolis, mn&lt;BR/&gt;usa&lt;BR/&gt;This was my word verification: qgnarsm&lt;BR/&gt;A beauty from the CBGB dialect...</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116109349517165339'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116109349517165339'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html?showComment=1161093480000#c116109349517165339' title=''/><author><name>speterme</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15418310802340579561</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116099580733958884' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116099580733958884' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-326822307"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116108466560873648</id><published>2006-10-17T07:31:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-17T07:31:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron, i&#39;m confused about why you let the previous c...</title><summary type='text'>Ron, i&#39;m confused about why you let the previous comment through the moderation. I make an observation that Jessica Smith (or whoever it was -- who cares) was replying to comments about her, here, as if she was on an American talk show (&#39;Whatever. Whatever. You don&#39;t know me. Sit down. Whatever.&#39;), and you delete it. This guy posts an insulting comment with no merit, and you let it through. I </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116108466560873648'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116108466560873648'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html?showComment=1161084660000#c116108466560873648' title=''/><author><name>Kevin Doran</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08640770705948611352</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116099580733958884' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116099580733958884' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-405491431"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116107728705735141</id><published>2006-10-17T05:28:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-17T05:28:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116107728705735141'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116107728705735141'/><author><name>phaneronoemikon</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08430230355065457354</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116099580733958884' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116099580733958884' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1411460047"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116105573630536558</id><published>2006-10-16T23:28:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-16T23:28:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>hmmm, no kirby, the brits and irish are too busy b...</title><summary type='text'>hmmm, &lt;BR/&gt;no kirby, the brits and irish are too busy being ugly, rude, and whoops, you forgot drunk, to understand such things that come so easily to americans... william carlos who?&lt;BR/&gt;sheesh. lets hope you are thick skinned...you deserve a good whallop, ( oh sorry, &quot;punch&quot; ) for that one. ah, cheers on ya, mate.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116105573630536558'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116105573630536558'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html?showComment=1161055680000#c116105573630536558' title=''/><author><name>eric d</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04379940441617523445</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116099580733958884' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116099580733958884' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1704238248"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 16, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116104262392663999</id><published>2006-10-16T19:50:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-16T19:50:00.001-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Rocco wrote: &quot;your inability to &#39;hear&#39; the second ...</title><summary type='text'>Rocco wrote: &quot;your inability to &#39;hear&#39; the second example is more a matter of your preference for the visual prosody of the first versus the more traditionally-oriented approximate blank verse of the second.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Well, look at the Williams he cites. It also scans as almost perfect approximate iambic (which I also actually hear while reading it). Some of it reminds me more of hexameter, like </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116104262392663999'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116104262392663999'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html?showComment=1161042600001#c116104262392663999' title=''/><author><name>ombilic des</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03318554537326184413</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116099580733958884' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116099580733958884' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1506852026"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 16, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116104260544346068</id><published>2006-10-16T19:50:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-16T19:50:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I&#39;m woefully ignorant about South African poets, E...</title><summary type='text'>I&#39;m woefully ignorant about South African poets, English language poets in India, etc., but among the poets of NZ &amp; Oz, it depends on the poet. John Tranter is somebody who uses a fuller line than, say, Turnbull, and I like his work a lot, perhaps because his line shows the influence of Stevens &amp; Ashbery. Ditto the poems of Ern Malley, even if he doesn&#39;t (didn&#39;t) exist. I enjoy both Curnows, tho </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116104260544346068'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116104260544346068'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html?showComment=1161042600000#c116104260544346068' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116099580733958884' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116099580733958884' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 16, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116104119490522053</id><published>2006-10-16T19:26:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-16T19:26:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron - do you have similar problems hearing other E...</title><summary type='text'>Ron - do you have similar problems hearing other English language poems from beyond the shores of North America? Do you have similar problems with Australian, New Zealand, South African or other poets writing in the English Language?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Given the advances in technology, the possibilities of posting audio and even video clips to a webpage alongside the text, can there be any reason for </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116104119490522053'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116104119490522053'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html?showComment=1161041160000#c116104119490522053' title=''/><author><name>Rik</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/10564300512472868098</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116099580733958884' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116099580733958884' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1097429834"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 16, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116103761320151684</id><published>2006-10-16T18:26:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-16T18:26:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Rocco,That&#39;s a fascinating way to approach this. I...</title><summary type='text'>Rocco,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;That&#39;s a fascinating way to approach this. I&#39;m not sure that &lt;I&gt;those&lt;/I&gt; are where I would break the lines, but I do think that approach makes much more sense to me. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;For the record, Brett, I drink tea. Haven&#39;t had a cup of coffee in 16 years.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ron</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116103761320151684'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116099580733958884/comments/default/116103761320151684'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html?showComment=1161037560000#c116103761320151684' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-would-say-that-im-in-dutch-again-for.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116099580733958884' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116099580733958884' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 16, 2006"/></entry></feed>