<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post116246774641332012..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>19</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116286244480971684</id><published>2006-11-06T20:20:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-06T20:20:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Steven:Yeah, I agree.  The last 10 books are prett...</title><summary type='text'>Steven:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Yeah, I agree.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The last 10 books are pretty predictable.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I&#39;m really not trying to put down Lamantia, you know.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I hate having to take a contrarian&#39;s viewpoint.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Sometimes I just get stuck carrying the argument I&#39;ve inadvertently initiated.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Poof.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116286244480971684'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116286244480971684'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html?showComment=1162862400000#c116286244480971684' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116246774641332012' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116246774641332012' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 06, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116285634581902597</id><published>2006-11-06T18:39:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-06T18:39:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ian, I agree that broadly defined prophecy is a ty...</title><summary type='text'>Ian, I agree that broadly defined prophecy is a type of reportage.  In my mind I was distinguishing between foretelling or prediction (prophecy) and the journalistic rendition of things that have happened (reporting).</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116285634581902597'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116285634581902597'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html?showComment=1162856340000#c116285634581902597' title=''/><author><name>Steven Fama</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04378273134042527425</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116246774641332012' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116246774641332012' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1945919831"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 06, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116283776193902832</id><published>2006-11-06T13:29:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-06T13:29:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Steven, prophecy is reportage.</title><summary type='text'>Steven, prophecy is reportage.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116283776193902832'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116283776193902832'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html?showComment=1162837740000#c116283776193902832' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116246774641332012' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116246774641332012' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 06, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116283298044607444</id><published>2006-11-06T12:09:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-06T12:09:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis, my experience reading Lamantia is much dif...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis, my experience reading Lamantia is much different than yours.  You say that any book of his you open, you &quot;know what&#39;s there, how it proceeds, and what the point is.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I say again: Lamantia&#39;s &lt;I&gt;Meadowlark West&lt;/I&gt; (1986) is far different than his teen year poems.  In &lt;I&gt;Meadowlark&lt;/I&gt;, the surfaces are much (much) harder, the lines more disjunctive (paratactic), the imagery far </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116283298044607444'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116283298044607444'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html?showComment=1162832940000#c116283298044607444' title=''/><author><name>Steven Fama</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04378273134042527425</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116246774641332012' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116246774641332012' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1945919831"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 06, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116282161988873668</id><published>2006-11-06T09:00:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-06T09:00:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I&#39;ll buy that.</title><summary type='text'>I&#39;ll buy that.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116282161988873668'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116282161988873668'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html?showComment=1162821600000#c116282161988873668' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116246774641332012' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116246774641332012' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 06, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116278012166409791</id><published>2006-11-05T21:28:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-05T21:28:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis, I agree pretty much with what you said abo...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis, I agree pretty much with what you said about the respective styles of the two poets, and don’t think my original statement about the two is in opposition to your views.  Ashbery himself said that he interpreted Surrealism as meaning he could do whatever he wanted, a statement I associate with Tennis Court Oath, which is in contrast to Lamantia who wanted to live up to Breton’s effusive </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116278012166409791'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116278012166409791'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html?showComment=1162780080000#c116278012166409791' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116246774641332012' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116246774641332012' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 05, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116276995663269567</id><published>2006-11-05T18:39:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-05T18:39:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ashbery&#39;s surrealism was (and over time, became mo...</title><summary type='text'>Ashbery&#39;s surrealism was (and over time, became more) mature.  It&#39;s always had a mischievous quality about it, but a serious undertone as well.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Writers like Lamantia ask us to accept a routine quality of imaginative technique--to live with a closed set of evocations and images--which becomes a kind of language of its own--the Surrealists&#39; language.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It&#39;s very difficult to </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116276995663269567'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116276995663269567'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html?showComment=1162769940000#c116276995663269567' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116246774641332012' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116246774641332012' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 05, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116270790718420177</id><published>2006-11-05T01:25:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-05T01:25:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis asks and answers, &quot;Did Lamantia ever grow o...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis asks and answers, &quot;Did Lamantia ever grow or develop as a writer, or was he writing in the same &#39;surrealist stream of consciousness&#39; 50 years later. I&#39;d argue that he was.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;To my mind, no way.  Lamantia&#39;s poems in &lt;I&gt;Meadowlark West&lt;/I&gt; (1986) and &lt;I&gt;Becoming Visible&lt;/I&gt; (1981) are far different than his early surrealist works, and both of those are different from the poems in &lt;I&gt;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116270790718420177'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116270790718420177'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html?showComment=1162707900000#c116270790718420177' title=''/><author><name>Steven Fama</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04378273134042527425</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116246774641332012' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116246774641332012' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1945919831"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 05, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116269451039304611</id><published>2006-11-04T21:41:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-04T21:41:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I predictably love Lamantia: he is perhaps the sup...</title><summary type='text'>I predictably love Lamantia: he is perhaps the supreme narrator in English of the magic of the hemisphere.  Like a lot of American painters with ties to the Surrealists from the 40s, he took his signature and ran with it, and imitations of him replete with offhand references to Surrealist paintings often look like imitations.  But I prefer the baroque line to the broken one. Ashbery uses </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116269451039304611'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116269451039304611'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html?showComment=1162694460000#c116269451039304611' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116246774641332012' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116246774641332012' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 04, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116269264377608843</id><published>2006-11-04T21:10:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-04T21:10:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>No, no, I think we can segregate writers who self-...</title><summary type='text'>No, no, I think we can segregate writers who self-consciously and deliberately follow a &quot;style&quot; which is identified with a group, from others who, as it were, play the field, or attempt to define a specific voice.  Lamantia was always very consciously identified with the &quot;Surrealists&quot; as if that somehow legitimated has identity as a writer--something I find dangerous to any writer or artist.  How</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116269264377608843'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116269264377608843'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html?showComment=1162692600000#c116269264377608843' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116246774641332012' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116246774641332012' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 04, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116261231978339257</id><published>2006-11-03T22:51:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-03T22:51:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Facinating stuff, Ron.  It&#39;s like reading confiden...</title><summary type='text'>Facinating stuff, Ron.  It&#39;s like reading confidential memos constituting the institutional memory of a big U.S. corporation.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Very instructive.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116261231978339257'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116261231978339257'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html?showComment=1162612260000#c116261231978339257' title=''/><author><name>Zeke Hunkaburning</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05144662896092856507</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116246774641332012' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116246774641332012' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-820081779"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 03, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116259578502912105</id><published>2006-11-03T18:16:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-03T18:16:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis, I think your statement about originality d...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis, I think your statement about originality depends on the definition/scope of the term &quot;original.&quot;  If original means fresh and novel for the entire world and all time, then there are very few &quot;originals.&quot; &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But Lamantia is an original if defined as novel or fresh among, say, poetry written in San Francisco or arguably in America before 1943. And original too with regard to kind of </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116259578502912105'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116259578502912105'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html?showComment=1162595760000#c116259578502912105' title=''/><author><name>Steven Fama</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04378273134042527425</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116246774641332012' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116246774641332012' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1945919831"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 03, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116257035900036721</id><published>2006-11-03T11:12:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-03T11:12:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>My point wasn&#39;t that Lamantia was &quot;inept&quot; a word I...</title><summary type='text'>My point wasn&#39;t that Lamantia was &quot;inept&quot; a word I would never use for his work--only that he was in no sense an &quot;original&quot; writer.  The adoption of the surrealists manifesto was a very formal and rigid affair in the 1930&#39;s and 1940&#39;s, with Breton and a couple of other self-appointed authorities &quot;dictating&quot; who was a true surrealist and who was not--all very French and formal and ultimately </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116257035900036721'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116257035900036721'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html?showComment=1162570320000#c116257035900036721' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116246774641332012' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116246774641332012' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 03, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116256818634857381</id><published>2006-11-03T10:36:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-03T10:36:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Frank Stanford would be another poet eerily gifted...</title><summary type='text'>Frank Stanford would be another poet eerily gifted at a very young age.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116256818634857381'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116256818634857381'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html?showComment=1162568160000#c116256818634857381' title=''/><author><name>Tony Tost</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15765857872778493229</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116246774641332012' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116246774641332012' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1599768463"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 03, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116252456640705296</id><published>2006-11-02T22:29:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-02T22:29:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis, I disagree with your take on Lamantia&#39;s ea...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis, I disagree with your take on Lamantia&#39;s early poems, that &quot;surrealist stream of conciousness&quot; is an accurate description of Lamantia&#39;s poems or of surrealist writing, and whether surrealist writing had become a cliche by the 1940s. We can discuss those things some other time.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;My point was that Lamantia&#39;s first efforts were not inept.  Even if for the sake of argument I accept </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116252456640705296'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116252456640705296'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html?showComment=1162524540000#c116252456640705296' title=''/><author><name>Steven Fama</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04378273134042527425</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116246774641332012' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116246774641332012' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1945919831"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 02, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116252098452985246</id><published>2006-11-02T21:29:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-02T21:29:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I think the Lamantia can be written off with the c...</title><summary type='text'>I think the Lamantia can be written off with the caveat that the style he chose to write in--doctinaire surrealist stream of consciousness--actually had become a cliche by the time he picked it up.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;One could even say with some justice that Ginsberg&#39;s early chants and odes (Howl, Kaddish and so forth) were Whitman with Surrealism mixed in.  The journalistic jottings came somewhat later.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116252098452985246'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116252098452985246'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html?showComment=1162520940000#c116252098452985246' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116246774641332012' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116246774641332012' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 02, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116250776173466855</id><published>2006-11-02T17:49:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-02T17:49:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I hadn&#39;t read The Cantos yet.</title><summary type='text'>I hadn&#39;t read &lt;I&gt;The Cantos&lt;/I&gt; yet.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116250776173466855'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116250776173466855'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html?showComment=1162507740000#c116250776173466855' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116246774641332012' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116246774641332012' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 02, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116249206616228576</id><published>2006-11-02T13:27:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-02T13:27:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;My work in Community Libertarian is an inept hybr...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;My work in &lt;I&gt;Community Libertarian&lt;/I&gt; is an inept hybrid between &lt;I&gt;Howl&lt;/I&gt; and &lt;I&gt;The Waste Land&lt;/I&gt;, literally my first serious attempt at writing &lt;I&gt;anything&lt;/I&gt;.&quot; &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Geez, you couldn&#39;t throw &lt;I&gt;The Cantos&lt;/I&gt; into the mix too?!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Reading of Ron&#39;s self-admitted inept (though earnest) first effort reminds me of the two handwritten Bob Dylan high school poesm that were </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116249206616228576'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116249206616228576'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html?showComment=1162492020000#c116249206616228576' title=''/><author><name>Steven Fama</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04378273134042527425</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116246774641332012' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116246774641332012' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1945919831"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 02, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116247059589216551</id><published>2006-11-02T07:29:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-02T07:29:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>More and more it seems to me magazines divide fair...</title><summary type='text'>More and more it seems to me magazines divide fairly neatly into two categories:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;One) Those begun by a single individual--or clearly controlled by one person--produced and designed to a specific vision, with clear opinions and specific likes and dislikes.  Origin, Black Mountain Review, Caterpillar, American Mercury, Coyote&#39;s Journal, Big Sky, Locus Solus, this, Maps, etc.  The virtue of</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116247059589216551'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116246774641332012/comments/default/116247059589216551'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html?showComment=1162470540000#c116247059589216551' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/cid-corman-i-noted-tuesday-that_02.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116246774641332012' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116246774641332012' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 02, 2006"/></entry></feed>