<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post116402512074666128..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116402512074666128/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-helps-reading-this-jack-spicer-poem.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>12</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116430408181435803</id><published>2006-11-23T12:48:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-23T12:48:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>This isn&#39;t the right thread, Curtis, but I have al...</title><summary type='text'>This isn&#39;t the right thread, Curtis, but I have always presumed that this was de Kooning&#39;s mother.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116402512074666128/comments/default/116430408181435803'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116402512074666128/comments/default/116430408181435803'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-helps-reading-this-jack-spicer-poem.html?showComment=1164304080000#c116430408181435803' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-helps-reading-this-jack-spicer-poem.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116402512074666128' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116402512074666128' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 23, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116429518147209795</id><published>2006-11-23T10:19:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-23T10:19:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I always think of it as Elaine just stepping from ...</title><summary type='text'>I always think of it as Elaine just stepping from the bathroom nude in the morning and asking Bill if he wants breakfast or a quick fuck.  She didn&#39;t have large breasts so maybe that was Bill&#39;s private turn on.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Actually, she&#39;s just the Mayan Goddess through the eyes of Picasso.  Steely New York winter light.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116402512074666128/comments/default/116429518147209795'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116402512074666128/comments/default/116429518147209795'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-helps-reading-this-jack-spicer-poem.html?showComment=1164295140000#c116429518147209795' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-helps-reading-this-jack-spicer-poem.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116402512074666128' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116402512074666128' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 23, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116426008832036217</id><published>2006-11-23T00:34:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-23T00:34:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>No that I&#39;m a big feminist, but if mysogony were w...</title><summary type='text'>No that I&#39;m a big feminist, but if mysogony were water, this de Kooning would be a maelstrom. Certainly he did bettter: she looks like she&#39;s having open heart surgery, or perhaps she&#39;s a speaker cabinet having its speakers services. A wind, though, is blowing her past us. she keeps one hold on the canvas by her ostrich-like right hand, but it is not clear that this is going to work since things </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116402512074666128/comments/default/116426008832036217'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116402512074666128/comments/default/116426008832036217'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-helps-reading-this-jack-spicer-poem.html?showComment=1164260040000#c116426008832036217' title=''/><author><name>steve</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/10074302076823065357</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-helps-reading-this-jack-spicer-poem.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116402512074666128' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116402512074666128' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-710855217"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 23, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116409235692617744</id><published>2006-11-21T01:59:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-21T01:59:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>One thinks, obviously, of 1962 and the &quot;some kind ...</title><summary type='text'>One thinks, obviously, of 1962 and the &quot;some kind of knight&quot; in &quot;some kind of castle&quot; who played chess with an invisible chessplayer, &quot;a maiden, naturally.&quot; Second poem of the Holy Grail. &quot;It was another spoiled quest.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Or, earlier (1959), in the poem called &quot;The Death of Arthur&quot; (in Seven Nursery Rhymes), the hapless definition: &quot;Pushing wood, they call it when you make automatic moves </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116402512074666128/comments/default/116409235692617744'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116402512074666128/comments/default/116409235692617744'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-helps-reading-this-jack-spicer-poem.html?showComment=1164092340000#c116409235692617744' title=''/><author><name>Kirk Johnson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05529898733002317995</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-helps-reading-this-jack-spicer-poem.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116402512074666128' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116402512074666128' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-895736745"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 21, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116407743173931922</id><published>2006-11-20T21:50:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-20T21:50:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Thanks, john, I&#39;ll check it out.</title><summary type='text'>Thanks, john, I&#39;ll check it out.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116402512074666128/comments/default/116407743173931922'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116402512074666128/comments/default/116407743173931922'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-helps-reading-this-jack-spicer-poem.html?showComment=1164077400000#c116407743173931922' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-helps-reading-this-jack-spicer-poem.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116402512074666128' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116402512074666128' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 20, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116407485851940139</id><published>2006-11-20T21:07:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-20T21:07:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The Killian poem is delightful, thank you for post...</title><summary type='text'>The Killian poem is delightful, thank you for posting it. I&#39;m drawing a huge hundred-color picture of &lt;I&gt;Okay, my little clown, I fucked up this safari&lt;/I&gt; in my brain as we speak.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116402512074666128/comments/default/116407485851940139'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116402512074666128/comments/default/116407485851940139'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-helps-reading-this-jack-spicer-poem.html?showComment=1164074820000#c116407485851940139' title=''/><author><name>Tricia</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05054871173880967520</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-helps-reading-this-jack-spicer-poem.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116402512074666128' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116402512074666128' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1077556786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 20, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116405658614163502</id><published>2006-11-20T16:03:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-20T16:03:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>curtis,see killian&#39;s amazing Argento Series from K...</title><summary type='text'>curtis,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;see killian&#39;s amazing Argento Series from Krupskaya.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;j</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116402512074666128/comments/default/116405658614163502'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116402512074666128/comments/default/116405658614163502'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-helps-reading-this-jack-spicer-poem.html?showComment=1164056580000#c116405658614163502' title=''/><author><name>John Sakkis</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08621102858745971700</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-helps-reading-this-jack-spicer-poem.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116402512074666128' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116402512074666128' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1144833194"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 20, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116404265324727932</id><published>2006-11-20T12:10:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-20T12:10:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>dear Ron,It was Paul Morphy, the greatest of Ameri...</title><summary type='text'>dear Ron,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It was Paul Morphy, the greatest of American chess players prior to Bobby Fischer, who, after the then retired champion, Howard Staunton, refused to play him either in the U.S. or in his home country (Britain) to where the young Morphy had travelled to seek a match, offered &quot;pawn and move&quot; to anyone who would play him, and after defeating both Harrwitz and Adolf Andersson, in </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116402512074666128/comments/default/116404265324727932'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116402512074666128/comments/default/116404265324727932'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-helps-reading-this-jack-spicer-poem.html?showComment=1164042600000#c116404265324727932' title=''/><author><name>bill sherman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04168365468808561496</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-helps-reading-this-jack-spicer-poem.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116402512074666128' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116402512074666128' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-230710657"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 20, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116404017864089369</id><published>2006-11-20T11:29:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-20T11:29:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The Killian poem you quote is not to my taste, but...</title><summary type='text'>The Killian poem you quote is not to my taste, but it is original.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;One question that never gets asked here is:  Is originality, in itself, a quantifiable advance?  If so, how do we measure it?  Are there different kinds of originiality?  And which kind do we credit? &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt; Jeff Clark&#39;s work reads like a very wobbly and misguided kind of &quot;originality&quot;.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Killian&#39;s poem here</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116402512074666128/comments/default/116404017864089369'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116402512074666128/comments/default/116404017864089369'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-helps-reading-this-jack-spicer-poem.html?showComment=1164040140000#c116404017864089369' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-helps-reading-this-jack-spicer-poem.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116402512074666128' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116402512074666128' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 20, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116403882087911600</id><published>2006-11-20T11:07:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-20T11:07:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Thank you, Gertrude</title><summary type='text'>Thank you, Gertrude</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116402512074666128/comments/default/116403882087911600'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116402512074666128/comments/default/116403882087911600'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-helps-reading-this-jack-spicer-poem.html?showComment=1164038820000#c116403882087911600' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-helps-reading-this-jack-spicer-poem.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116402512074666128' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116402512074666128' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 20, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116403690330209713</id><published>2006-11-20T10:35:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-20T10:35:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;It’s attention to particulars like this that tell...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;It’s attention to particulars like this that tells me this poet indeed knows the answer.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Then what is the question?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116402512074666128/comments/default/116403690330209713'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116402512074666128/comments/default/116403690330209713'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-helps-reading-this-jack-spicer-poem.html?showComment=1164036900000#c116403690330209713' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-helps-reading-this-jack-spicer-poem.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116402512074666128' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116402512074666128' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 20, 2006"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116403092216040881</id><published>2006-11-20T08:55:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-20T08:55:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I didn&#39;t understand the chess part in the first pa...</title><summary type='text'>I didn&#39;t understand the chess part in the first paragraph. Do you mean not letting him be white? Anyway, a move in chess isn&#39;t considered &#39;one&#39; move, technically; it&#39;s a half beat. So while it&#39;s &#39;a&#39; move, it&#39;s not &#39;one&#39;.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I vaguely remember pointing something out about chess, here, before...</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116402512074666128/comments/default/116403092216040881'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/116402512074666128/comments/default/116403092216040881'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-helps-reading-this-jack-spicer-poem.html?showComment=1164030900000#c116403092216040881' title=''/><author><name>Kevin Doran</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08640770705948611352</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2006/11/it-helps-reading-this-jack-spicer-poem.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116402512074666128' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/116402512074666128' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-405491431"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="November 20, 2006"/></entry></feed>