<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post1480723721990797755..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>64</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4927559100469685208</id><published>2009-09-11T15:17:08.781-04:00</published><updated>2009-09-11T15:17:08.781-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Seth is Sam Vaknin and ICMFP.&#xa;&#xa;Seriously, I have n...</title><summary type='text'>Seth is Sam Vaknin and ICMFP.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Seriously, I have no problem with his running private workshops by mail, though I wouldn&amp;#39;t send anyone to him for prose. And if people are hellbent on throwing away tens of thousands of their own dollars on writing programs -- well, I just don&amp;#39;t want to be responsible for helping to pull them out of a student-loan hole afterwards.  What I do have a</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/4927559100469685208'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/4927559100469685208'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html?showComment=1252696628781#c4927559100469685208' title=''/><author><name>Amy Charles</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07001791173242631714</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1480723721990797755' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1480723721990797755' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1513393056"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="September 11, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3343348563711572575</id><published>2009-08-15T07:56:25.092-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-15T07:56:25.092-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&amp;quot;So. She was raped on her &#xa;Powerpuff sheets. ...</title><summary type='text'>&amp;quot;So. She was raped on her &lt;br /&gt;Powerpuff sheets. I mean, a real human heart.&amp;quot; -Abramson&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Good stuff and what I was surprised with was the notion of taking one&amp;#39;s work (the kind that actually pays and has a set of values that is well known and regulated i.e. law) and making really good poetry out of it.  It isn&amp;#39;t easy to do and this is gritty material.  A person who is </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/3343348563711572575'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/3343348563711572575'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html?showComment=1250337385092#c3343348563711572575' title=''/><author><name>Meg</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11023871171456340729</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uYCDfb2QGz8/SeB3B8MTI5I/AAAAAAAAAm4/rWoHodRohJA/S220/arco+iris.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1480723721990797755' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1480723721990797755' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-2000124934"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 15, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7424732250021682567</id><published>2009-08-15T00:22:35.981-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-15T00:22:35.981-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I don&amp;#39;t understand why SA gets so much air tim...</title><summary type='text'>I don&amp;#39;t understand why SA gets so much air time. By his own admission and writing he knows very little about poetry and its traditions, his own poetry is derivative and cliche-ridden, and all one has to do is look at his blog and his interminable replies here to know that he&amp;#39;s no editor.  Why would anyone entrust an MFA application to him? He&amp;#39;s crunched numbers (though his methodology</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/7424732250021682567'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/7424732250021682567'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html?showComment=1250310155981#c7424732250021682567' title=''/><author><name>Minor</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00262698466186527207</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1480723721990797755' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1480723721990797755' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1380197473"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 15, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2618252749543170436</id><published>2009-08-14T20:57:57.564-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-14T20:57:57.564-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Dear Mr. Abramson:&#xa;&#xa;Since you addressed me persona...</title><summary type='text'>Dear Mr. Abramson:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since you addressed me personally here, I’ll take advantage of the opportunity (and Ron’s generosity) to tell you that I have enjoyed your blog. I even posted there a couple of times, though, admittedly, mostly to point out why I disagreed with you. :-)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Being a poet is not like deciding to become a carpenter or a brick mason and going off to learn your </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/2618252749543170436'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/2618252749543170436'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html?showComment=1250297877564#c2618252749543170436' title=''/><author><name>Gary B. Fitzgerald</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17919492445467135425</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_jd60l7fjpIE/SWUBq9hPgcI/AAAAAAAAAAM/DUpzzvPlxb8/S220/kitty.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1480723721990797755' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1480723721990797755' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1865147512"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7740846520853142585</id><published>2009-08-14T19:39:51.695-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-14T19:39:51.695-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Gotta snark here: I love that Seth A. &amp;quot;thanks...</title><summary type='text'>Gotta snark here: I love that Seth A. &amp;quot;thanks&amp;quot; Patrick, the same Patrick I do believe who wrote that Seth&amp;#39;s comments here were (among other things) &amp;quot;long-winded.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That relates to something else. I have no problem with somebody trying to sell anything, assuming no harm or hurt is involved.  In fact, I love poets who sell their poems, and wish Seth A. the best </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/7740846520853142585'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/7740846520853142585'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html?showComment=1250293191695#c7740846520853142585' title=''/><author><name>Steven Fama</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13733977161680651117</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1480723721990797755' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1480723721990797755' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-862679579"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-701978782579112174</id><published>2009-08-14T18:48:02.751-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-14T18:48:02.751-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis,&#xa;&#xa;That&amp;#39;s exactly what I experienced at ...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That&amp;#39;s exactly what I experienced at Iowa decades after you had left. Nothing has changed. I always appreciate your comments here. You&amp;#39;re not afraid to say anything. What do you care? You&amp;#39;re in your sixties.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;C.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/701978782579112174'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/701978782579112174'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html?showComment=1250290082751#c701978782579112174' title=''/><author><name>Chris</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06004097663209952956</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1480723721990797755' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1480723721990797755' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-687716298"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7078662344152646642</id><published>2009-08-14T18:28:18.080-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-14T18:28:18.080-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&amp;quot;Gary, I don&amp;#39;t think we need to consign a...</title><summary type='text'>&amp;quot;Gary, I don&amp;#39;t think we need to consign artists to isolation--either before, during, or after moments of inspiration and expression. Being an artist is a miserable enough prospect w/o that.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What&amp;#39;s wrong with isolation?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think you&amp;#39;re working with a debased idea of the artist if you think isolation &amp;amp; solitude aren&amp;#39;t necessary.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/7078662344152646642'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/7078662344152646642'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html?showComment=1250288898080#c7078662344152646642' title=''/><author><name>0000000</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/14767771887014774485</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1480723721990797755' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1480723721990797755' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-992609239"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4878407789365740019</id><published>2009-08-14T16:52:40.860-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-14T16:52:40.860-04:00</updated><title type='text'>So look: I understand (from things you&amp;#39;ve said...</title><summary type='text'>&lt;i&gt;So look: I understand (from things you&amp;#39;ve said on your blog and elsewhere) you feel that your own personal experience applying to MFA programs has provided you with the special key that unlocks everyone else&amp;#39;s experience--financially and in terms of matriculation research and preparation--but I think you should reconsider. I had the same experience as you (I applied to MFAs in the fall</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/4878407789365740019'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/4878407789365740019'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html?showComment=1250283160860#c4878407789365740019' title=''/><author><name>Phoebe</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08922801801009495791</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1480723721990797755' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1480723721990797755' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-123839730"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3484240941122398229</id><published>2009-08-14T16:14:14.022-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-14T16:14:14.022-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Phoebe,&#xa;&#xa;As someone who makes 8K/year as a teachin...</title><summary type='text'>Phoebe,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As someone who makes 8K/year as a teaching assistant, and who works (at ALC) with other writers who make around that, I can&amp;#39;t think of anything more important to a student&amp;#39;s bottom line--speaking as someone who is a student right now--than keeping your debt load low.  ALC is trying to help people get into fully-funded programs, and avoid programs which cost upwards of $</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/3484240941122398229'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/3484240941122398229'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html?showComment=1250280854022#c3484240941122398229' title=''/><author><name>Seth Abramson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08059849202129580100</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_0C6zfNUN2dI/RpI1VX9QIyI/AAAAAAAAACI/Ar7qLwIt4AQ/s400/seth.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1480723721990797755' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1480723721990797755' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-11614668"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5230660652423333963</id><published>2009-08-14T15:53:30.176-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-14T15:53:30.176-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis, Iowa now is not Iowa then.&#xa;&#xa;Gary, I don&amp;#3...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis, Iowa now is not Iowa then.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gary, I don&amp;#39;t think we need to consign artists to isolation--either before, during, or after moments of inspiration and expression.  Being an artist is a miserable enough prospect w/o that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Simon, sorry, to be clear, I don&amp;#39;t think ALC is a radically progressive political act.  I do think adding to the options young writers have, </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/5230660652423333963'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/5230660652423333963'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html?showComment=1250279610176#c5230660652423333963' title=''/><author><name>Seth Abramson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08059849202129580100</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_0C6zfNUN2dI/RpI1VX9QIyI/AAAAAAAAACI/Ar7qLwIt4AQ/s400/seth.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1480723721990797755' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1480723721990797755' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-11614668"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4760737864834079189</id><published>2009-08-14T15:07:20.680-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-14T15:07:20.680-04:00</updated><title type='text'>After I&amp;#39;ve read through 50 comments, I&amp;#39;ve ...</title><summary type='text'>After I&amp;#39;ve read through 50 comments, I&amp;#39;ve become more and more impressed by the insight and scope of your original post, Ron, you bad boy, you. The comments have come to encompass the problematic relationship between capitalism and poetry. Now we&amp;#39;re getting somewhere. Unfortunately, it seems your final question has been ignored, maybe because it&amp;#39;s unanswerable or perhaps because </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/4760737864834079189'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/4760737864834079189'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html?showComment=1250276840680#c4760737864834079189' title=''/><author><name>Patrick Dillon</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04175884937968045605</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1480723721990797755' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1480723721990797755' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1634681312"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8086065397906728366</id><published>2009-08-14T14:55:43.613-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-14T14:55:43.613-04:00</updated><title type='text'>It&amp;#39;s been a long time since I stepped into the...</title><summary type='text'>It&amp;#39;s been a long time since I stepped into the blog world (I saw this linked from a facebook page.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Acquiring the status of &amp;quot;professional writer&amp;quot; is a powerful desire for many -- and quite separable from the status of &amp;quot;writer&amp;quot;. As I&amp;#39;ve watched my writing peers age through the system, I&amp;#39;ve seen the two desires separate out quite cleanly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/8086065397906728366'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/8086065397906728366'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html?showComment=1250276143613#c8086065397906728366' title=''/><author><name>Simon</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11204392065409353832</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1480723721990797755' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1480723721990797755' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1031830178"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2792788714969536445</id><published>2009-08-14T14:41:29.009-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-14T14:41:29.009-04:00</updated><title type='text'>.&#xa;My poetry critique group has been of great help ...</title><summary type='text'>.&lt;br /&gt;My poetry critique group has been of great help to me for many years. I have read them most of my poems. There are seven of us in all: myself, two cats, one dog, a Wisteria vine and two live-oak trees. They have liked all of my poems and have never offered any negative criticism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Poetry is a solitary thing. Duets are for singers! Groups are for therapy!</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/2792788714969536445'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/2792788714969536445'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html?showComment=1250275289009#c2792788714969536445' title=''/><author><name>Gary B. Fitzgerald</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17919492445467135425</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_jd60l7fjpIE/SWUBq9hPgcI/AAAAAAAAAAM/DUpzzvPlxb8/S220/kitty.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1480723721990797755' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1480723721990797755' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1865147512"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2162695223600877608</id><published>2009-08-14T13:14:43.201-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-14T13:14:43.201-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I happen to have a copy of  Berkeley Poets Coopera...</title><summary type='text'>I happen to have a copy of  Berkeley Poets Cooperative/12&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;so, I guess about 1973 or so?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;seems like most  if not all of the writers/poets included merely creating credentials for their &amp;quot;clubbies&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;as not much included  worth the $1.50 per issue.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;not much &amp;quot;working the poems&amp;quot; seems to have taken place in  (as the New York Times Magazine says </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/2162695223600877608'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/2162695223600877608'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html?showComment=1250270083201#c2162695223600877608' title=''/><author><name>Ed Baker</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11285310130024785775</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_SpwtdDR0utk/R3Owpv1OTyI/AAAAAAAAAAM/5uapZyaJmtY/S220/Ed++by+Evie+Baker'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1480723721990797755' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1480723721990797755' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-771816173"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-936375692278518241</id><published>2009-08-14T11:41:17.768-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-14T11:41:17.768-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Part II&#xa;&#xa;During the years I was at the workshop, i...</title><summary type='text'>Part II&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;During the years I was at the workshop, it was mostly dominated by conservatives.  Each year, one or two outsiders would be invited, as window-dressing.  They and their followers were shunted to one side, because they couldn&amp;#39;t be &amp;quot;used,&amp;quot; and they didn&amp;#39;t fit the proper image mold being promoted.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Student-poets tended to regard the workshop as a grim</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/936375692278518241'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/936375692278518241'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html?showComment=1250264477768#c936375692278518241' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1480723721990797755' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1480723721990797755' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6111500434137543222</id><published>2009-08-14T11:40:35.956-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-14T11:40:35.956-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Seth:&#xa;&#xa;My experience at Iowa, rather than presenti...</title><summary type='text'>Seth:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My experience at Iowa, rather than presenting the possibility or example of a &amp;quot;community,&amp;quot; taught me how extraordinarily SELFISH most of the participants were.  The Workshop was a power structure.  At its head was the director, and underneath him were two or three semi-permanent &amp;quot;regulars&amp;quot;; underneath them, the &amp;quot;other&amp;quot; instructors--invited only for a</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/6111500434137543222'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/6111500434137543222'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html?showComment=1250264435956#c6111500434137543222' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1480723721990797755' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1480723721990797755' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1826250926479301017</id><published>2009-08-14T10:05:06.564-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-14T10:05:06.564-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I think we can agree on that.</title><summary type='text'>I think we can agree on that.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/1826250926479301017'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/1826250926479301017'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html?showComment=1250258706564#c1826250926479301017' title=''/><author><name>Seth Abramson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08059849202129580100</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_0C6zfNUN2dI/RpI1VX9QIyI/AAAAAAAAACI/Ar7qLwIt4AQ/s400/seth.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1480723721990797755' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1480723721990797755' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-11614668"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2819600563776653903</id><published>2009-08-14T09:53:15.824-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-14T09:53:15.824-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Is there a way to throw a Molotov cocktail into th...</title><summary type='text'>Is there a way to throw a Molotov cocktail into this comment box?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/2819600563776653903'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/2819600563776653903'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html?showComment=1250257995824#c2819600563776653903' title=''/><author><name>NEG</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06256297219916308405</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://fotola.com/fotola/2006/Dec/humanverb4588990bb0017-web.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1480723721990797755' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1480723721990797755' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-571195259"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4563270607661507718</id><published>2009-08-14T09:40:05.354-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-14T09:40:05.354-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The plight of the MFA graduates and those who don&amp;...</title><summary type='text'>&lt;i&gt;The plight of the MFA graduates and those who don&amp;#39;t get into the top programs does probably pale beside the plight of the people of Myanmar, or North Korea, or Zimbabwe -- just to put this into perspective...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don&amp;#39;t think that there are any MFA grads who aren&amp;#39;t thankful that they don&amp;#39;t live in a third-world nation. But, while this isn&amp;#39;t an oppression </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/4563270607661507718'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/4563270607661507718'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html?showComment=1250257205354#c4563270607661507718' title=''/><author><name>Phoebe</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08922801801009495791</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1480723721990797755' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1480723721990797755' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-123839730"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1034441320661847884</id><published>2009-08-14T00:49:04.890-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-14T00:49:04.890-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The plight of the MFA graduates and those who don&amp;...</title><summary type='text'>The plight of the MFA graduates and those who don&amp;#39;t get into the top programs does probably pale beside the plight of the people of Myanmar, or North Korea, or Zimbabwe -- just to put this into perspective...</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/1034441320661847884'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/1034441320661847884'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html?showComment=1250225344890#c1034441320661847884' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1480723721990797755' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1480723721990797755' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4421458147120083464</id><published>2009-08-14T00:05:10.076-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-14T00:05:10.076-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Hi Nick,&#xa;&#xa;You wrote:&#xa;&#xa;&amp;quot;...we should then take...</title><summary type='text'>Hi Nick,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;...we should then take their vociferous denials of investment in the academy, their insistence that they merely use the academy and are utterly different from dull scholars, entirely at face value.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No, I don&amp;#39;t agree with this.  This is a straw man.  You&amp;#39;re setting up a false choice.  You&amp;#39;re saying that one cannot be both</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/4421458147120083464'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/4421458147120083464'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html?showComment=1250222710076#c4421458147120083464' title=''/><author><name>Seth Abramson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08059849202129580100</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_0C6zfNUN2dI/RpI1VX9QIyI/AAAAAAAAACI/Ar7qLwIt4AQ/s400/seth.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1480723721990797755' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1480723721990797755' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-11614668"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3930663292183789555</id><published>2009-08-13T23:19:45.676-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-13T23:19:45.676-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Typolicious today; I meant &amp;quot;(as an artist, ou...</title><summary type='text'>Typolicious today; I meant &amp;quot;(as an artist, ou&amp;#39;ll be able to intuit what the strong notes are; we all know when we&amp;#39;ve produced something that&amp;#39;s just not as strong. Trust your instincts!)&amp;quot;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/3930663292183789555'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/3930663292183789555'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html?showComment=1250219985676#c3930663292183789555' title=''/><author><name>Phoebe</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08922801801009495791</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1480723721990797755' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1480723721990797755' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-123839730"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 13, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4053152579888140110</id><published>2009-08-13T23:16:33.260-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-13T23:16:33.260-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Its value to me as someone polishing a portfolio i...</title><summary type='text'>&lt;i&gt;Its value to me as someone polishing a portfolio is probably greater and more to the point, if only on points of order, presentation, and the arcana that an MFA grad is more likely (though not guaranteed) to know.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As an MFA grad, I can tell you that we&amp;#39;re no more likely to know these things than any other teacher or artist you might encounter. For presentation, follow the </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/4053152579888140110'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/4053152579888140110'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html?showComment=1250219793260#c4053152579888140110' title=''/><author><name>Phoebe</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08922801801009495791</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1480723721990797755' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1480723721990797755' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-123839730"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 13, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2181631111645087351</id><published>2009-08-13T22:51:34.996-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-13T22:51:34.996-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Seth--OK, I&amp;#39;m curious.  You seem to see the MF...</title><summary type='text'>Seth--OK, I&amp;#39;m curious.  You seem to see the MFA program as a means for poetry to achieve, via institutional power, autonomy, without giving anything up in so doing:  poetry will be funded by society, but not altered by it.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And your argument about professionalization seems similar:  poets can become, say, college professors; we should then take their vociferous denials of </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/2181631111645087351'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/2181631111645087351'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html?showComment=1250218294996#c2181631111645087351' title=''/><author><name>Nick</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01731095647196490836</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1480723721990797755' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1480723721990797755' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-807648963"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 13, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7477935176520739509</id><published>2009-08-13T22:36:00.203-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-13T22:36:00.203-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Just read your most recent, Ry.  Bluntly, before y...</title><summary type='text'>Just read your most recent, Ry.  Bluntly, before you write too much about my views, you probably ought to read some of them.  There&amp;#39;s hardly an essay on MFA programs I&amp;#39;ve ever written in which I&amp;#39;ve &lt;em&gt;failed&lt;/em&gt; to say never pay a cent for an MFA program.  I always advise applicants to turn down any offer that requires payment for the MFA.  In rare instances, where an applicant </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/7477935176520739509'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1480723721990797755/comments/default/7477935176520739509'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html?showComment=1250217360203#c7477935176520739509' title=''/><author><name>Seth Abramson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08059849202129580100</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_0C6zfNUN2dI/RpI1VX9QIyI/AAAAAAAAACI/Ar7qLwIt4AQ/s400/seth.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-underappreciated-profession-in-our.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1480723721990797755' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1480723721990797755' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-11614668"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 13, 2009"/></entry></feed>