<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post1669369603369226085..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>27</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8237913027505289666</id><published>2007-12-29T01:59:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-29T01:59:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;Plot is narrative at its most vulgar&quot; What makes ...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;Plot is narrative at its most vulgar&quot;&lt;BR/&gt; What makes plot vulgar?  Really? I always thought plot is what added Spice[r[ to dull old narrative&#39;s allergorical yearnings.  Hhahahh Oh well, it&#39;s rather like that old idea of rounded out characters and filled in ones, or being a taker out (Fitzgerald) or a putter in-ner(Wolfe) or Augustine&#39;s take on reason and good old Tommy the Aquainted. However </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/8237913027505289666'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/8237913027505289666'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html?showComment=1198911540000#c8237913027505289666' title=''/><author><name>Clifford Duffy</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11950053072248270770</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1669369603369226085' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1669369603369226085' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-866930026"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 29, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3614591623165009348</id><published>2007-12-12T22:37:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-12T22:37:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>There’s no doubt that I’m rougher on Luther becaus...</title><summary type='text'>There’s no doubt that I’m rougher on Luther because of his anonymity.. ..plus there’s a clarity to ascribing motives quite absent in the human condition.. Ron is wise enough to know it’s off-topic.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/3614591623165009348'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/3614591623165009348'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html?showComment=1197517020000#c3614591623165009348' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1669369603369226085' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1669369603369226085' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 12, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8388768035469084120</id><published>2007-12-12T10:01:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-12T10:01:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I&#39;d have to agree with Luther&#39;s initial response:_...</title><summary type='text'>I&#39;d have to agree with Luther&#39;s initial response:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;_____&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;Andy, you&#39;re right that Ron is trying to redefine &quot;narrative&quot; in the way you describe. But if you do so, it no longer has anything like a connection to what we traditionally mean by plot. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;What you and Ron describe as &quot;narrative&quot; is simply what every major thinker about art has called &quot;aesthetic experience.&quot; </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/8388768035469084120'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/8388768035469084120'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html?showComment=1197471660000#c8388768035469084120' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1669369603369226085' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1669369603369226085' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 12, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8340739718876458508</id><published>2007-12-12T08:46:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-12T08:46:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ian, I haven&#39;t mentioned Negri and Hardt once here...</title><summary type='text'>Ian, I haven&#39;t mentioned Negri and Hardt once here, and I never brought up WBM&#39;s argument against them.  I don&#39;t think Negri and Hardt are trying to keep the poor in their slums.  I don&#39;t recall WBM writing such a thing either.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The point of this excursion through WBM&#39;s work was to examine Ron&#39;s distinction between plot and narrative, where narrative would mean &quot;the unfolding of meaning</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/8340739718876458508'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/8340739718876458508'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html?showComment=1197467160000#c8340739718876458508' title=''/><author><name>Luther Blissett</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05431159615586957896</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1669369603369226085' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1669369603369226085' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-901283303"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 12, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8855860125302035676</id><published>2007-12-12T08:23:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-12T08:23:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ian,ascribing motives to Luther&#39;s comments is push...</title><summary type='text'>Ian,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;ascribing motives to Luther&#39;s comments is pushing right to the edge of what I&#39;ll accept here. And it&#39;s noteworthy how little this discussion has to do with the note that ostensibly generated it. I&#39;m going to allow Luther one last reasonable response and then cap it.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/8855860125302035676'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/8855860125302035676'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html?showComment=1197465780000#c8855860125302035676' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/silliman/silliman2a.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1669369603369226085' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1669369603369226085' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 12, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1297425032564873280</id><published>2007-12-12T08:18:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-12T08:18:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Obviously it&#39;s insulting and inaccurate to imply t...</title><summary type='text'>Obviously it&#39;s insulting and inaccurate to imply that Hardt and Negri are trying to keep people in their slums, which is why you repeat it.  Michaels&#39; interest is solely to tear away the recognition of race and class so they cease to exist in the academic mind.  I think if Reagan&#39;s and Michaels&#39; trickle down theory gave the people of Bangladesh 401K plans and expense accounts Negri might alter </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/1297425032564873280'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/1297425032564873280'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html?showComment=1197465480000#c1297425032564873280' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1669369603369226085' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1669369603369226085' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 12, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2304411694616077219</id><published>2007-12-11T22:51:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-11T22:51:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Andy, sure, we can imagine a text that was constru...</title><summary type='text'>Andy, sure, we can imagine a text that was constructed in a way that every reader experiences the text in different ways.  And it need not be some performance art piece.  A Bach score offers the players several possibile ways of performing it.  Here, we can think of two different intentions: first, Bach wanted performers to have some freedom to shape the full performance; or second, Bach wanted </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/2304411694616077219'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/2304411694616077219'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html?showComment=1197431460000#c2304411694616077219' title=''/><author><name>Luther Blissett</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05431159615586957896</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1669369603369226085' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1669369603369226085' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-901283303"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 11, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2691607938928898131</id><published>2007-12-11T17:53:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-11T17:53:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>You’d think from reading The Trouble With Diversit...</title><summary type='text'>You’d think from reading The Trouble With Diversity that he believes in class, but as I implied that’s just a ruse employed in that book that he’s contradicted elsewhere.  He’s used the same arguments against affirmative action that Trent Lott and Pat Buchanan make, but found quickly that it didn’t play well in academia so he’s pretending he’s a blue collar advocate.  Note the amount of space </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/2691607938928898131'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/2691607938928898131'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html?showComment=1197413580000#c2691607938928898131' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1669369603369226085' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1669369603369226085' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 11, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5637960927732792514</id><published>2007-12-11T16:15:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-11T16:15:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Luther,Surely, though, meaning is there in the exp...</title><summary type='text'>Luther,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Surely, though, meaning is there in the experience of meaning. Rather than meaning in some ideal realm, waiting to be accessed. Or at least there &lt;I&gt;is&lt;/I&gt; an experience of meaning. Seeing them as linked isn&#39;t necessarily confusing them. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But, to respond to an earlier comment of yours (and many others), you seem to deny the following possibility:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;A writer might </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/5637960927732792514'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/5637960927732792514'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html?showComment=1197407700000#c5637960927732792514' title=''/><author><name>Andy Gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04367834692026653431</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://www.princemyshkins.com/images/Detritus.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1669369603369226085' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1669369603369226085' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1668048852"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 11, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-71975317236179838</id><published>2007-12-11T06:42:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-11T06:42:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ian, now you&#39;re just willfully getting WBM&#39;s argum...</title><summary type='text'>Ian, now you&#39;re just willfully getting WBM&#39;s arguments wrong.  He has never claimed that there are only individuals and not economic classes.  *The Trouble With Diversity* makes that clear.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And he devastates Fukuyama&#39;s notion of an &quot;end of history&quot; in *The Shape of the Signifier*.  In fact, that&#39;s his problem with those readers who insist that everyone has a different reading from </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/71975317236179838'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/71975317236179838'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html?showComment=1197373320000#c71975317236179838' title=''/><author><name>Luther Blissett</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05431159615586957896</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1669369603369226085' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1669369603369226085' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-901283303"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 11, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2984749381918761891</id><published>2007-12-11T01:00:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-11T01:00:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Michaels&#39; contradictions and contrivances are a wa...</title><summary type='text'>Michaels&#39; contradictions and contrivances are a way to keep the balls up in the air long enough to pinch your handkerchiefs.  End affirmative action, in favor of class.. Oops! There is no class, just individuals!  End of history, I’m not Fukuyama, Oops, no theory!  I can see the appeal to you.  Like his buddy Fish, absolutely no importance outside the American academy, relevance to literature </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/2984749381918761891'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/2984749381918761891'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html?showComment=1197352800000#c2984749381918761891' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1669369603369226085' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1669369603369226085' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 11, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1281003616878172624</id><published>2007-12-10T12:19:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-10T12:19:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ian, you&#39;re missing WBM&#39;s point.  As I wrote befor...</title><summary type='text'>Ian, you&#39;re missing WBM&#39;s point.  As I wrote before, he argues that when readers interpret literature, they should voice these interpretations as statements of what they think the author intended.  In fact, he argues that, because &quot;meaing&quot; and &quot;intention&quot; are interchangeable words, only a disingenuous or confused reader could posit an interpretation of a work that s/he believes is other than what</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/1281003616878172624'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/1281003616878172624'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html?showComment=1197307140000#c1281003616878172624' title=''/><author><name>Luther Blissett</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05431159615586957896</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1669369603369226085' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1669369603369226085' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-901283303"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 10, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4504002871954344544</id><published>2007-12-10T10:22:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-10T10:22:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Michaels states in Saving the Text his position is...</title><summary type='text'>Michaels states in Saving the Text his position is “based not on the attempt to match interpretations up to a text that exists independently of them, but based instead on what readers believe.”&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;‘Shape of the Signifier’ he does criticize materiality on behalf of the creation of meanings, but he doesn’t say that the reader cannot produce meanings, nor does he say that Howe confused ‘the </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/4504002871954344544'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/4504002871954344544'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html?showComment=1197300120000#c4504002871954344544' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1669369603369226085' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1669369603369226085' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 10, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5464986427649657819</id><published>2007-12-10T07:49:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-10T07:49:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ian, you&#39;re missing WBM&#39;s point.  If the meaning o...</title><summary type='text'>Ian, you&#39;re missing WBM&#39;s point.  If the meaning of our actions is simply &quot;what we believe&quot; then meaning is grounded.  The meaning of an act is what we intended to do.  One main point of *Against Theory* is that no general theory of language or reading can provide solid footing for the critic to know what the writer believed.  But the second major point is that we cannot &quot;interpret&quot; a text </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/5464986427649657819'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/5464986427649657819'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html?showComment=1197290940000#c5464986427649657819' title=''/><author><name>Luther Blissett</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05431159615586957896</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1669369603369226085' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1669369603369226085' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-901283303"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 10, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5706724652984842263</id><published>2007-12-09T20:34:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-09T20:34:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Does it ever seem to bother the cartoon mice and d...</title><summary type='text'>Does it ever seem to bother the cartoon mice and ducks in LutherBlissetland that Walter Benn Michaels says the exact opposite of your paraphrasing of him?  The main point of his main essay ‘Against Theory’ was and I quote: “Our beliefs are not obstacles between us and meaning, they are what makes meaning possible in the first place. Meaning is not filtered through what we believe, it is </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/5706724652984842263'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/5706724652984842263'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html?showComment=1197250440000#c5706724652984842263' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1669369603369226085' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1669369603369226085' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 09, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7325976820448011730</id><published>2007-12-09T11:43:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-09T11:43:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>It looks like contemporarypoetry approaches miscib...</title><summary type='text'>It looks like contemporary&lt;BR/&gt;poetry approaches miscibility &lt;BR/&gt;with modern art at the edges.&lt;BR/&gt;That helps me think about the&lt;BR/&gt;narrative.  In modern art, and&lt;BR/&gt;certainly in a lot of contemporary &lt;BR/&gt;poetry before, the narrative takes place...inside the viewer.&lt;BR/&gt;Any surprise we should see things&lt;BR/&gt;that are hard to place, at the&lt;BR/&gt;border?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/7325976820448011730'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/7325976820448011730'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html?showComment=1197218580000#c7325976820448011730' title=''/><author><name>JimK</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16105117011358723753</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1669369603369226085' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1669369603369226085' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-712228124"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 09, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4639803086432988443</id><published>2007-12-07T22:02:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-07T22:02:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Andy, you&#39;re right that Ron is trying to redefine ...</title><summary type='text'>Andy, you&#39;re right that Ron is trying to redefine &quot;narrative&quot; in the way you describe.  But if you do so, it no longer has anything like a connection to what we traditionally mean by plot.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;What you and Ron describe as &quot;narrative&quot; is simply what every major thinker about art has called &quot;aesthetic experience.&quot;  Which is a fancy way of saying &quot;one&#39;s experience with a work of art.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/4639803086432988443'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/4639803086432988443'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html?showComment=1197082920000#c4639803086432988443' title=''/><author><name>Luther Blissett</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05431159615586957896</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1669369603369226085' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1669369603369226085' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-901283303"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 07, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5016359602895518241</id><published>2007-12-07T21:16:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-07T21:16:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>That Robert Haas poem is damn fine. The last two l...</title><summary type='text'>That Robert Haas poem is damn fine. The last two lines work in spite of your horror of being &quot;preached to.&quot;  And, as far as preaching and moral homilies -- well, isn&#39;t that mostly what you are doing right now?  That poem earns its moment. Going on about &quot;vulgar narrative&quot; doesn&#39;t.  That&#39;s kitsch of another sort.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/5016359602895518241'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/5016359602895518241'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html?showComment=1197080160000#c5016359602895518241' title=''/><author><name>joe green</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/10421269607838053725</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1669369603369226085' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1669369603369226085' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-619045195"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 07, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-765460117452103779</id><published>2007-12-07T17:37:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-07T17:37:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>If compared to one whole human,plot is like that h...</title><summary type='text'>If compared to one whole human,&lt;BR/&gt;plot is like that human&#39;s bones,&lt;BR/&gt;and narrative is like all the&lt;BR/&gt;non-bone physical aspects &lt;BR/&gt;of that human.&lt;BR/&gt;-&lt;BR/&gt;A linear manifestation.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;If that human is chopped up,&lt;BR/&gt;and the parts are then mingled,&lt;BR/&gt;plot and narrative still remain,&lt;BR/&gt;but as a non-linear manifestation.&lt;BR/&gt;-&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Just a thought.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/765460117452103779'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/765460117452103779'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html?showComment=1197067020000#c765460117452103779' title=''/><author><name>brian salchert</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11649691450577647656</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1669369603369226085' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1669369603369226085' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1297934363"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 07, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8444511619200411602</id><published>2007-12-07T14:02:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-07T14:02:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Yes, but isn&#39;t the phrase &quot;vulgar narrative&quot; itsel...</title><summary type='text'>Yes, but isn&#39;t the phrase &quot;vulgar narrative&quot; itself an, um... vulgar narrative?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Recapitulate here the script of Ed Woods&#39; final unproduced thriller, Return of the Repressed, in which a series of disjunctions, displacements, substitutions, drive the plot to cringe beneath the shadow of its own unthought. &quot;Did I mean any of this? Then, or now? And to what end?&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And then? And then?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/8444511619200411602'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/8444511619200411602'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html?showComment=1197054120000#c8444511619200411602' title=''/><author><name>Kirk Johnson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12714098498354846094</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1669369603369226085' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1669369603369226085' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-458221395"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 07, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3340185553558830426</id><published>2007-12-07T13:43:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-07T13:43:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I&#39;ve posted an extended commentary at http://perpe...</title><summary type='text'>I&#39;ve posted an extended commentary at http://perpetualbird.blogspot.com/2007/12/silly-man-ii.html ...&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;NOT to be construed as a defense of &quot;vulgar narrative.&quot;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/3340185553558830426'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/3340185553558830426'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html?showComment=1197052980000#c3340185553558830426' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1669369603369226085' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1669369603369226085' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1148938945"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 07, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1688938866513521552</id><published>2007-12-07T13:11:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-07T13:11:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>hey Ron,well, thanks for addressing my question, t...</title><summary type='text'>hey Ron,&lt;BR/&gt;well, thanks for addressing my question, though to clear up a couple of things. i wasn&#39;t making the argument that travelling through the dark is efficent, i just was wanting you to tell me why it would be &quot;more efficent&quot; as a movie or a novel than as a poem. i don&#39;t particularly dig the poem either, but i sure as hell know i wouldn&#39;t want to have this story as a novel, or watch and </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/1688938866513521552'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/1688938866513521552'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html?showComment=1197051060000#c1688938866513521552' title=''/><author><name>peter</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05327429647175738328</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1669369603369226085' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1669369603369226085' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-2035658647"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 07, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4965506940068367124</id><published>2007-12-07T13:10:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-07T13:10:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Luther,The way I&#39;d put it is that narrative is wha...</title><summary type='text'>Luther,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The way I&#39;d put it is that narrative is what happens as the work is &lt;I&gt;enacted&lt;/I&gt;, this enactment happening during and over the time of your or my or someone else&#39;s single reading, viewing, listening to the work. The key word being &lt;I&gt;happens&lt;/I&gt;--narrative as the time-bound element of even those forms (painting, for instance) that aren&#39;t intrinsically temporal--because </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/4965506940068367124'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/4965506940068367124'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html?showComment=1197051000000#c4965506940068367124' title=''/><author><name>Andy Gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04367834692026653431</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://www.princemyshkins.com/images/Detritus.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1669369603369226085' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1669369603369226085' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1668048852"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 07, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8805695771151151561</id><published>2007-12-07T11:48:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-07T11:48:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>it seems to me that focussing on plot as the means...</title><summary type='text'>it seems to me that focussing on plot as the means of character development in films is a necessary distinction &lt;BR/&gt;a vulgar reduction of story&lt;BR/&gt;it lends itself to the observation&lt;BR/&gt;that we are a culture&lt;BR/&gt;famished for the psychological&lt;BR/&gt;this in our day has descended to the level of utter banality&lt;BR/&gt;where &lt;BR/&gt;&quot;hey - he/she is just like me&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;and then&lt;BR/&gt;we have something they </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/8805695771151151561'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/8805695771151151561'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html?showComment=1197046080000#c8805695771151151561' title=''/><author><name>john hanson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/10043530995274885830</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1669369603369226085' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1669369603369226085' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1850634495"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 07, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4309784240507075361</id><published>2007-12-07T11:16:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-07T11:16:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>My Stepfather used to say he loved a great plot, a...</title><summary type='text'>My Stepfather used to say he loved a great plot, and he would invariably lose interest in a novel if it lacked a strong one.  Predictably, those who like tight plots tend to associate such devices with mysteries and &quot;thrillers&quot;--fast-moving and sometimes improbable developments and changes in action which keep you guessing or frequently surprise you.  Nabokov likened plot to a chess-game--and he </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/4309784240507075361'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/1669369603369226085/comments/default/4309784240507075361'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html?showComment=1197044160000#c4309784240507075361' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/several-contributors-to-comments-stream.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1669369603369226085' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/1669369603369226085' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 07, 2007"/></entry></feed>