<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post4184155794612880208..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>22</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7016629776920439921</id><published>2009-04-20T23:06:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-04-20T23:06:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Other than accepting it as a poem, I didn&#39;t grade-...</title><summary type='text'>Other than accepting it as a poem, I didn&#39;t grade--and won&#39;t--WCW&#39;s &quot;the rose is obsolete&quot;; but Meg&#39;s following the leader remark did get me to read all the prior comments again, and what now most interests &lt;I&gt;me&lt;/I&gt; derives from the information &lt;B&gt;ljs&lt;/B&gt; provided.  I want to know the prose passage that immediately precedes this poem and the prose that immediately follows this poem.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/7016629776920439921'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/7016629776920439921'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html?showComment=1240283160000#c7016629776920439921' title=''/><author><name>brian (baj) salchert</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11649691450577647656</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='15' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_aq6Q75KCx78/SVJ_lyyAVpI/AAAAAAAAAOU/-rIvXaOmqOM/S220/azalea+004.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4184155794612880208' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4184155794612880208' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1297934363"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 20, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-691319686272831663</id><published>2009-04-20T08:59:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-04-20T08:59:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Not being a WCW afficianado of course...does the p...</title><summary type='text'>Not being a WCW afficianado of course...does the poem have a title or was the ink pot dry?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These are interesting comments about the thing...what interests me most is the way folks follow the leader and trade agreement on something just because it is WCW.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;The fragility of the flower&lt;br /&gt;unbruised&lt;br /&gt;penetrates space&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And?  Okay...so we have this flower...</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/691319686272831663'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/691319686272831663'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html?showComment=1240232340000#c691319686272831663' title=''/><author><name>Meg</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11023871171456340729</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uYCDfb2QGz8/SeB3B8MTI5I/AAAAAAAAAm4/rWoHodRohJA/S220/arco+iris.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4184155794612880208' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4184155794612880208' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-2000124934"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 20, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8811513871403813815</id><published>2009-04-19T15:51:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-04-19T15:51:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>La de da.</title><summary type='text'>La de da.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/8811513871403813815'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/8811513871403813815'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html?showComment=1240170660000#c8811513871403813815' title=''/><author><name>Gary B. Fitzgerald</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17919492445467135425</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_jd60l7fjpIE/SWUBq9hPgcI/AAAAAAAAAAM/DUpzzvPlxb8/S220/kitty.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4184155794612880208' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4184155794612880208' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1865147512"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 19, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1437301354391370927</id><published>2009-04-19T09:34:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-04-19T09:34:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Dear Gary&amp;lt;&#xa;&#xa;Poetry does not end with the poem&#xa;r...</title><summary type='text'>Dear Gary&amp;lt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Poetry does not end with the poem&lt;br /&gt;rather&lt;br /&gt;it begins with it&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;and&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;no one  especially Bill Williams is responsible&lt;br /&gt;four yore intelligentz OR&lt;br /&gt;your understandingg&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;and&lt;br /&gt;don&amp;#39;t you phucking d.a.r.e&amp;quot; fuck with my sprelling, sin-text,con-text, or&lt;br /&gt;,especially, my punctuate&lt;br /&gt;   specificities&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/1437301354391370927'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/1437301354391370927'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html?showComment=1240148040000#c1437301354391370927' title=''/><author><name>Ed Baker</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11285310130024785775</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_SpwtdDR0utk/R3Owpv1OTyI/AAAAAAAAAAM/5uapZyaJmtY/S220/Ed++by+Evie+Baker'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4184155794612880208' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4184155794612880208' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-771816173"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 19, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4480951028645277583</id><published>2009-04-19T09:25:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-04-19T09:25:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis Faville was on the mark. Read here for furt...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis Faville was on the mark. Read here for further illumination. Knowledge of Williams&#39; connections with art/ists helps me to connect to the poem. Otherwise, didn&#39;t feel it much. Personally, I like poems to plagiarize nature a bit. There&#39;s a coolness to WCW&#39;s poetry that is off putting, probably because it&#39;s too uncomfortable. Suppose that makes it great art?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/4480951028645277583'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/4480951028645277583'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html?showComment=1240147500000#c4480951028645277583' title=''/><author><name>Mary Jo Malo</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/18148588310769074332</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4184155794612880208' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4184155794612880208' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1737322265"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 19, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3774447331879461246</id><published>2009-04-19T06:19:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-04-19T06:19:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>A rose &#xa;is &#xa;a rose &#xa;is &#xa;a what</title><summary type='text'>A rose &lt;br /&gt;is &lt;br /&gt;a rose &lt;br /&gt;is &lt;br /&gt;a what</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/3774447331879461246'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/3774447331879461246'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html?showComment=1240136340000#c3774447331879461246' title=''/><author><name>Mark Granier</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09899629187771913398</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='23' src='http://static.flickr.com/35/125078083_0408f03b6f_m.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4184155794612880208' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4184155794612880208' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-837377571"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 19, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5395519049957991530</id><published>2009-04-18T19:35:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-04-18T19:35:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;If &#39;one&#39; prefers puzzles,&quot; that is.&#xa;&#xa;Ol&#39; Ron ough...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;If &#39;one&#39; prefers puzzles,&quot; that is.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ol&#39; Ron oughta start editing out all of our typos, don&#39;t you think?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/5395519049957991530'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/5395519049957991530'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html?showComment=1240097700000#c5395519049957991530' title=''/><author><name>Gary B. Fitzgerald</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17919492445467135425</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_jd60l7fjpIE/SWUBq9hPgcI/AAAAAAAAAAM/DUpzzvPlxb8/S220/kitty.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4184155794612880208' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4184155794612880208' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1865147512"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 18, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1806465893936707979</id><published>2009-04-18T19:14:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-04-18T19:14:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>This poem by WCW is a perfect example of all that ...</title><summary type='text'>This poem by WCW is a perfect example of all that can be wrong with a poem. First of all, it was inspired by a painting by Juan Gris called ‘Flowers’. How would we know that from the words in the poem, especially if we weren’t familiar with the painting? Then, it is supposed to be a response to Marianne Moore’s poem “Marriage’. How would we know that without reading Williams’ essay? Third, It has</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/1806465893936707979'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/1806465893936707979'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html?showComment=1240096440000#c1806465893936707979' title=''/><author><name>Gary B. Fitzgerald</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17919492445467135425</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_jd60l7fjpIE/SWUBq9hPgcI/AAAAAAAAAAM/DUpzzvPlxb8/S220/kitty.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4184155794612880208' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4184155794612880208' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1865147512"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 18, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5004710952741944047</id><published>2009-04-18T14:52:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-04-18T14:52:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Had you posted this poem without revealing its aut...</title><summary type='text'>Had you posted this poem without revealing its author/ I would not have tried to guess.  You didn&#39;t, and I read it, and thought--this to me is not a typical William Carlos Williams poem.  I read it again.  So.  As of this moment, I have read it--doesn&#39;t matter--what matters is it can&#39;t be read as poems by WCW are typically read.  I saw the photo above it and figured/ there must be some connection</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/5004710952741944047'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/5004710952741944047'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html?showComment=1240080720000#c5004710952741944047' title=''/><author><name>baj salchert</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11649691450577647656</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='15' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_aq6Q75KCx78/SVJ_lyyAVpI/AAAAAAAAAOU/-rIvXaOmqOM/S220/azalea+004.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4184155794612880208' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4184155794612880208' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1297934363"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 18, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-170472130604944535</id><published>2009-04-17T23:24:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-04-17T23:24:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Copper, to be exact.</title><summary type='text'>Copper, to be exact.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/170472130604944535'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/170472130604944535'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html?showComment=1240025040000#c170472130604944535' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/silliman/silliman2a.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4184155794612880208' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4184155794612880208' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 17, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7757268833343257544</id><published>2009-04-17T22:11:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-04-17T22:11:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Wait a minute. Is that flower made of chocolate? D...</title><summary type='text'>Wait a minute. Is that flower made of chocolate? Don&#39;t tell me. I want to pretend that it is made of chocolate.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/7757268833343257544'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/7757268833343257544'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html?showComment=1240020660000#c7757268833343257544' title=''/><author><name>Steven Trull</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12568485477185375841</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4184155794612880208' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4184155794612880208' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-860282443"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 17, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4903378632619731672</id><published>2009-04-17T19:38:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-04-17T19:38:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Meg,&#xa;&#xa;Please don&#39;t slam Susy Q Poet. She is one of...</title><summary type='text'>Meg,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Please don&#39;t slam Susy Q Poet. She is one of my favorites! Especially the ones about flowers and stuff. &lt;br /&gt;And oh–infinity and junk.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Crispy Tortilla&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PS - unless you mean Suzy Quatro. Yeah, she wasn&#39;t so hot. Her stuff was too, well, leathery.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/4903378632619731672'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/4903378632619731672'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html?showComment=1240011480000#c4903378632619731672' title=''/><author><name>Tortilla ex Machina</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11240795400994592569</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_HakneZ76Pf4/SXat8k7CPrI/AAAAAAAABCg/KoiLztV8_Ro/S220/ricky-maine.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4184155794612880208' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4184155794612880208' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1599458885"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 17, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4951352816965158857</id><published>2009-04-17T12:42:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-04-17T12:42:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Just wondrous. Thanks Ron for highlighting this.</title><summary type='text'>Just wondrous. Thanks Ron for highlighting this.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/4951352816965158857'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/4951352816965158857'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html?showComment=1239986520000#c4951352816965158857' title=''/><author><name>Nicholas Manning</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12750291349639539140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='28' height='32' src='http://static.flickr.com/100/297698415_31f5f13234.jpg?v=0'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4184155794612880208' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4184155794612880208' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591050484"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 17, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6583395148877303916</id><published>2009-04-17T12:36:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-04-17T12:36:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I always love that&#xa;&#xa;/What/&#xa;&#xa;Also, did you leave th...</title><summary type='text'>I always love that&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;/What/&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, did you leave the ultimate period off on purpose?  I think I like the poem better without it&#39;s sense of finality</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/6583395148877303916'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/6583395148877303916'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html?showComment=1239986160000#c6583395148877303916' title=''/><author><name>Jeff Brennan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04316374080872785614</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_hmGUk4ZVvZI/SPv56lmV6EI/AAAAAAAAAAs/H8bAkaDU9AM/S220/n10401672_31449065_2287.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4184155794612880208' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4184155794612880208' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-156484276"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 17, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6469988887968748180</id><published>2009-04-17T12:25:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-04-17T12:25:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I love this poem too, and it does encapsulate much...</title><summary type='text'>I love this poem too, and it does encapsulate much of what is simultaneously &#39;new&#39; and &#39;just right&#39; about WCW&#39;s poetic. I love:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The place between the petal&#39;s&lt;br /&gt;edge and the&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A fine example not only of perceptual mimesis, but of language &#39;doing what it wants and what it must&#39; (Stein). Hey, this is John Hollander&#39;s favourite Williams poem too. Not sure what </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/6469988887968748180'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/6469988887968748180'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html?showComment=1239985500000#c6469988887968748180' title=''/><author><name>Rob</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12052286287306109429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4184155794612880208' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4184155794612880208' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-236737005"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 17, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-468851116894358426</id><published>2009-04-17T10:24:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-04-17T10:24:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I agree that this poem seems to be wonderful.  But...</title><summary type='text'>I agree that this poem seems to be wonderful.  But i don&#39;t quite see the finish to it.  I fashion myself a poet, but I have to admit im a bit slow when it comes to reading poetry.  I was wondering if you or anyone else had any hints as to what makes it so much better.  it was the same for me and the red wheelbarrow once someone showed me what they saw in it, i could see it.  Anyways, just thought</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/468851116894358426'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/468851116894358426'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html?showComment=1239978240000#c468851116894358426' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4184155794612880208' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4184155794612880208' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-426792754"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 17, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8037958117632776635</id><published>2009-04-17T10:07:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-04-17T10:07:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>If I remember correctly, from my Breslin senior&#39;s ...</title><summary type='text'>If I remember correctly, from my Breslin senior&#39;s major class on Williams, that the poem was based on a painting (or a style?) of Charles Demuth&#39;s--a mediation of cubism in which sharp edges of objects dissolve or reform--&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;seeing as a creative act&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;breaking up sentences into fragments or &quot;false&quot; starts to signify that fragmentation of thought (impulse)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;until </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/8037958117632776635'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/8037958117632776635'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html?showComment=1239977220000#c8037958117632776635' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4184155794612880208' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4184155794612880208' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 17, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-875078163742382257</id><published>2009-04-17T08:52:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-04-17T08:52:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Really now.  &#xa;&#xa;If I read it on a poetry board by S...</title><summary type='text'>Really now.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If I read it on a poetry board by Susy Q Poet, I&#39;d be entirely unimpressed and consider a vapid mess.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/875078163742382257'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/875078163742382257'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html?showComment=1239972720000#c875078163742382257' title=''/><author><name>Meg</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11023871171456340729</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uYCDfb2QGz8/SeB3B8MTI5I/AAAAAAAAAm4/rWoHodRohJA/S220/arco+iris.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4184155794612880208' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4184155794612880208' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-2000124934"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 17, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3396966895628296697</id><published>2009-04-17T07:58:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-04-17T07:58:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Not only the finest, but also in some ways the mos...</title><summary type='text'>Not only the finest, but also in some ways the most important: the poem is found, in SPRING AND ALL, within an edge: between a comma and the next word in the midst of prose; Williams enacts that very &quot;geometry&quot; of edges he talks about in the poem!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks for posting it this morning, when spring is finally approaching....</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/3396966895628296697'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/3396966895628296697'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html?showComment=1239969480000#c3396966895628296697' title=''/><author><name>ljs</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12788869184713346996</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4184155794612880208' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4184155794612880208' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1925256763"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 17, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1099660304878714976</id><published>2009-04-17T06:44:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-04-17T06:44:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>this poem&#xa;&#xa;this poet&#xa;&#xa;changed my&#xa;&#xa;life!&#xa;&#xa;also neat...</title><summary type='text'>this poem&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;this poet&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;changed my&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;life!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;also neat that your&lt;br /&gt;&quot;word verification&quot; to-day is pater..&lt;br /&gt;    Walter Pater&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;also&lt;br /&gt;   penetrating space&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;check out date this poem was published   .. then go to events &quot;in the &#39;real&#39; world&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;just prior  say 10 years before... see &quot;what was up&quot;..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  and, who was </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/1099660304878714976'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/1099660304878714976'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html?showComment=1239965040000#c1099660304878714976' title=''/><author><name>Ed Baker</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11285310130024785775</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_SpwtdDR0utk/R3Owpv1OTyI/AAAAAAAAAAM/5uapZyaJmtY/S220/Ed++by+Evie+Baker'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4184155794612880208' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4184155794612880208' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-771816173"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 17, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-697909415947584494</id><published>2009-04-17T03:49:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-04-17T03:49:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>But with its descriptive over-explanation, its flo...</title><summary type='text'>But with its descriptive over-explanation, its flower-focus, and its sentimentality and its hyberbolic near-clichés (&quot;infinitely fine, infinitely/rigid penetrates/the Milky Way), this poem epitomizes all of the qualities of &lt;B&gt;&lt;I&gt;quietude&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/B&gt; that you so strenuously condemn...</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/697909415947584494'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/697909415947584494'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html?showComment=1239954540000#c697909415947584494' title=''/><author><name>Niko</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00405545923181730356</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4184155794612880208' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4184155794612880208' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-761969722"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 17, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8082083254857691817</id><published>2009-04-17T03:20:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-04-17T03:20:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>That is really an excellent poem!&#xa;&#xa;And the controv...</title><summary type='text'>That is really an excellent poem!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And the controversiality&lt;br /&gt;of his sly assertion&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;or veiled statement&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;that abstraction itself&lt;br /&gt;is the &#39;true materiality&#39;&lt;br /&gt;or the more palpable reality&lt;br /&gt;the more real reality?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;subversive&lt;br /&gt;and yet&lt;br /&gt;completely and paradoxically&lt;br /&gt;the crux on which&lt;br /&gt;all political determination&lt;br /&gt;rests, all </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/8082083254857691817'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4184155794612880208/comments/default/8082083254857691817'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html?showComment=1239952800000#c8082083254857691817' title=''/><author><name>phaneronoemikon</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08430230355065457354</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_hLJ2N7ZOgD8/R6EJKLnXPdI/AAAAAAAAAS4/2kJ0hAZuqOs/S220/Ozilanniman.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-then-of-course-there-is-this-what.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4184155794612880208' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4184155794612880208' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1411460047"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="April 17, 2009"/></entry></feed>