<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post4265306894958849197..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>22</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7062351101915853308</id><published>2007-12-26T12:30:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-26T12:30:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Snyder would seem to be the lynch pin between Kyge...</title><summary type='text'>Snyder would seem to be the lynch pin between Kyger and Whalen.  Snyder has a huge audience, and Kyger and Whalen have a comparatively small one. Snyder&#39;s is largely the eco-literature wave.  There is perhaps no equivalent wave for Kyger or Whalen to ride upon.  I remember that Kyger at Naropa was very interested in water tables, water rights, and so on, and asked us to think about where our </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/7062351101915853308'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/7062351101915853308'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html?showComment=1198690200000#c7062351101915853308' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4265306894958849197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4265306894958849197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 26, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-9014658082459214820</id><published>2007-12-24T20:55:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-24T20:55:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Interesting about the biographical thing.Whalen an...</title><summary type='text'>Interesting about the biographical thing.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Whalen and Kyger tell you so much about themselves in their poems, a biography is almost redundant.  Both travelled to the Orient and were profoundly affected by it.  The poems of a good poet are like a kind of spiritual (auto)biography.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;That&#39;s why I sometimes wonder what a writer like Ron is saying about his life in his work.  Large </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/9014658082459214820'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/9014658082459214820'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html?showComment=1198547700000#c9014658082459214820' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4265306894958849197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4265306894958849197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 24, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7562271074863842735</id><published>2007-12-24T09:55:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-24T09:55:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Is there a good biography of Whalen?  Or Kyger?I f...</title><summary type='text'>Is there a good biography of Whalen?  Or Kyger?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I find biographies to be the way into a writer, even after all the decades of Foucault and Barthes and the Death of the Author business. I&#39;ve read most of Tom Clark&#39;s biographies -- Dorn, Olson, Creeley, Kerouac, at the very least.  Kerouac now has a number of biographies. One of them claims that he became a die-hard Republican at the end </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/7562271074863842735'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/7562271074863842735'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html?showComment=1198508100000#c7562271074863842735' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4265306894958849197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4265306894958849197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 24, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2156466416108028818</id><published>2007-12-23T20:00:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-23T20:00:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>That&#39;s an interesting question.  I think Whalen di...</title><summary type='text'>That&#39;s an interesting question.  I think Whalen did grow up in a Protestant household, but I&#39;m not sure.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You can see his Protestantism underneath the desire for an exotic enlightenment.  A striving.  In Eastern religion, you have to give up striving along with all the other wordly desires, and just be &quot;open&quot; to the cosmic &quot;ah&quot;.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But PW did strive.  Else, how produce all those </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/2156466416108028818'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/2156466416108028818'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html?showComment=1198458000000#c2156466416108028818' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4265306894958849197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4265306894958849197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 23, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-934689713105714943</id><published>2007-12-23T12:02:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-23T12:02:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Nice, Curtis. Thanks for filling me in.  I did ord...</title><summary type='text'>Nice, Curtis. Thanks for filling me in.  I did order the book here and will struggle with it over the break.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I didn&#39;t like the poem that Ron parsed (with some interesting divagations by Lanny, alias Phano...) because I felt it was too obscure.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The poems I&#39;ve liked of Whalen&#39;s are totally transparent and reveal a kind-hearted individual with a deep shyness.  Nice persona to </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/934689713105714943'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/934689713105714943'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html?showComment=1198429320000#c934689713105714943' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4265306894958849197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4265306894958849197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 23, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4828573360773729183</id><published>2007-12-23T00:58:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-23T00:58:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I guess my point, Kirby, is that no interesting wr...</title><summary type='text'>I guess my point, Kirby, is that no interesting writer is really, from a comprehensive point of view, simply good or bad or sweet or sour.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Whalen was reported to have been quite shy, and that comes through in his writing--as well as his modesty.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;There&#39;s another aspect of his writing--it&#39;s deceptively &quot;accessible&quot; and ingratiating, even when you sense, correctly I think, that</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/4828573360773729183'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/4828573360773729183'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html?showComment=1198389480000#c4828573360773729183' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4265306894958849197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4265306894958849197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 23, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6870991849269731821</id><published>2007-12-22T15:17:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-22T15:17:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Oh, I got confused, I thought that was Ron that I ...</title><summary type='text'>Oh, I got confused, I thought that was Ron that I was replying to, but it was Curtis. Ok, then the previous message should be for Curtis.  I did think it was odd that Ron should be saying that Dorn had a &quot;warm and caring&quot; side to him. I misread the last part of the comment as saying, Ron, Peace....  when I looked at it.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It&#39;s very hard to read, whether it&#39;s people or their poems, and when</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/6870991849269731821'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/6870991849269731821'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html?showComment=1198354620000#c6870991849269731821' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4265306894958849197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4265306894958849197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 22, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3245044801420289036</id><published>2007-12-22T15:07:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-22T15:07:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron, there are two sections in the report on Whale...</title><summary type='text'>Ron, there are two sections in the report on Whalen. The first is about his reception of my poems. I remember his very poor reception of my poem. I felt really bad, but at the same time I thought it was funny because it seemed so unlike him!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The second part about the epilepsy incident was reported to me later by a guy who is now a scholar at a major university in the mid-west.  I don&#39;t </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/3245044801420289036'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/3245044801420289036'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html?showComment=1198354020000#c3245044801420289036' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4265306894958849197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4265306894958849197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 22, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3329941286055800187</id><published>2007-12-21T22:48:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-21T22:48:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Kirby, your account is so awful, I wonder if you&#39;r...</title><summary type='text'>Kirby, your account is so awful, I wonder if you&#39;re really a reliable reporter.  I&#39;ve never heard of Whalen being this crass or dismissive.  I&#39;m not saying it didn&#39;t happen, but I&#39;d need a lot more context to accept your version.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Dorn I think was misperceived, however, in just the opposite way you state.  His work is angry, bitter, sardonic, but the mind and emotion behind it isn&#39;t </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/3329941286055800187'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/3329941286055800187'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html?showComment=1198295280000#c3329941286055800187' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4265306894958849197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4265306894958849197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 21, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4419328034424542280</id><published>2007-12-21T17:16:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-21T17:16:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>pee est Amy Lowell could REALLY write..  study her...</title><summary type='text'>pee est Amy Lowell could REALLY write..  study her for her   free verse  early on  a foil of those &quot;imagists&quot;  you sound sound a bit like one of them dogmatic &quot;there&#39;s only one true religion (mine)&quot; nuts!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ed Dorn  like Phillip  also &quot;in it&quot; for the poetry/humanity...just today reading  again the copy of HANDS UP! that he gave me.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/4419328034424542280'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/4419328034424542280'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html?showComment=1198275360000#c4419328034424542280' title=''/><author><name>Ed</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11285310130024785775</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4265306894958849197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4265306894958849197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-771816173"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 21, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8827901734807275631</id><published>2007-12-21T17:04:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-21T17:04:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Phil shld have &quot;gongned&quot; you over the head with th...</title><summary type='text'>Phil shld have &quot;gongned&quot; you over the head with that zen stick and &#39;waked&#39; you up..&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;why so much anger coming from you?  &lt;BR/&gt;  the secret of everything&lt;BR/&gt;  consists of being always   and never serious...&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;cheers, Kokie</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/8827901734807275631'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/8827901734807275631'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html?showComment=1198274640000#c8827901734807275631' title=''/><author><name>Ed</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11285310130024785775</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4265306894958849197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4265306894958849197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-771816173"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 21, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2427518786341480091</id><published>2007-12-21T15:39:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-21T15:39:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>You put yourself into Whalen&#39;s lineage.  Did you e...</title><summary type='text'>You put yourself into Whalen&#39;s lineage.  Did you ever attempt to try Zen sitting?  It&#39;s funny to imagine you on the pillow, trying to say om.  Tell us some time about this!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I had Whalen as a teacher briefly at Naropa in 1977.  Curiously, it was a four-week course.  Two weeks were taught by Ed Dorn, and two by Whalen.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Whalen took our poems and read them, and commented. I </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/2427518786341480091'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/2427518786341480091'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html?showComment=1198269540000#c2427518786341480091' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4265306894958849197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4265306894958849197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 21, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2034557293607200383</id><published>2007-12-19T22:38:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-19T22:38:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron, thanks for this beautiful and fascinating ess...</title><summary type='text'>Ron, thanks for this beautiful and fascinating essay.  And to Curtis, for the annotation.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/2034557293607200383'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/2034557293607200383'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html?showComment=1198121880000#c2034557293607200383' title=''/><author><name>equivocal</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00408199156528969347</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4265306894958849197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4265306894958849197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1569202724"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 19, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-562299503544473120</id><published>2007-12-19T21:10:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-19T21:10:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron, later on today I realized the A S I Ais acuta...</title><summary type='text'>Ron, later on today I realized the &lt;BR/&gt;A S I A&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;is acutally Whalen performing&lt;BR/&gt;why I am tempted to call a &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&#39;letteral mudra&#39;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;the A being aleph.&lt;BR/&gt;the S+I being si-yes, c-light and sea&lt;BR/&gt;and the inversion being &#39;is&#39;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;a is a&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;bull yes bull&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;if you invert asia&lt;BR/&gt;you get &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I saw.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;or Is-Awe.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Is the soul trap&lt;BR/&gt;also </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/562299503544473120'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/562299503544473120'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html?showComment=1198116600000#c562299503544473120' title=''/><author><name>phaneronoemikon</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08430230355065457354</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://www.hevanet.com/solipsis/images/phanero.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4265306894958849197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4265306894958849197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1411460047"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 19, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7881355406520096516</id><published>2007-12-19T19:04:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-19T19:04:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I have never read a Langpo history of parataxis, a...</title><summary type='text'>I have never read a Langpo history of parataxis, and I think I’ve checked every critical collection.  Obviously Zukofsky’s and Williams’ use of parataxis before WW2 comes from Pound, who encountered the haiku in London concurrent with reading Reverdy and Stein, his invention of Imagism, ‘In a Station of the Metro’ and ‘Cathay.’&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;So I don’t know how to interpret the line “It was Whalen’s </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/7881355406520096516'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/7881355406520096516'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html?showComment=1198109040000#c7881355406520096516' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4265306894958849197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4265306894958849197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 19, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6759873443981813916</id><published>2007-12-19T16:22:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-19T16:22:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>“I write and rewrite until it looks like I wrote i...</title><summary type='text'>“I write and rewrite until it looks like I wrote it all at once.”&lt;BR/&gt;Philip Whalen &lt;BR/&gt;...said to me and at once my most valuable poetry lesson ever. Thanks for your passionate essay today, Ron.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/6759873443981813916'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/6759873443981813916'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html?showComment=1198099320000#c6759873443981813916' title=''/><author><name>Frank Parker</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09486916593945680342</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4265306894958849197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4265306894958849197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-741458029"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 19, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7802857486343229352</id><published>2007-12-19T14:38:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-19T14:38:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron-You could throw in the new HELEN ADAM READER (...</title><summary type='text'>Ron-&lt;BR/&gt;You could throw in the new HELEN ADAM READER (ed. Kristin Prevellat) as important recent collection (though not collected) from the SF Ren scene... &lt;BR/&gt;David Buuck</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/7802857486343229352'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/7802857486343229352'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html?showComment=1198093080000#c7802857486343229352' title=''/><author><name>dbuuck</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01168078423144600856</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4265306894958849197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4265306894958849197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-160349318"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 19, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6087640245507473275</id><published>2007-12-19T13:40:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-19T13:40:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>AH-MEN, Curtis...re: Philip Whalen..and  there is ...</title><summary type='text'>AH-MEN, Curtis...&lt;BR/&gt;re: Philip Whalen..&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;and  there is more to the story about Neil Cassidy&#39;s death than &quot;he died of overexposure&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I got to San Miguel about 2 weeks after NC was found by the side of the tracks  just out of town... I wrote some poems then  dated 1968.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;NC sure outsmarted the local &#39;law&#39; and &#39;indigenous&#39;  dope-dealers..  paid for it with his life instead </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/6087640245507473275'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/6087640245507473275'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html?showComment=1198089600000#c6087640245507473275' title=''/><author><name>Ed</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11285310130024785775</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4265306894958849197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4265306894958849197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-771816173"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 19, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7951094004775047200</id><published>2007-12-19T12:34:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-19T12:34:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;Phil Whalen, still the most underrated poet of hi...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;Phil Whalen, still the most underrated poet of his generation.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;There is a difference between &quot;underrated&quot; and underappreciated.    &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;There continues to be an &quot;ignorance&quot; about Whalen&#39;s work that is due, in no small part, to his streamlined modesty.  (Critical opinion has so far paid so little attention to PW&#39;s work that its &quot;underground&quot; reputation seems guaranteed, at least </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/7951094004775047200'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/7951094004775047200'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html?showComment=1198085640000#c7951094004775047200' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4265306894958849197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4265306894958849197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 19, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7560892442675755365</id><published>2007-12-19T12:15:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-19T12:15:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I love the enthusiasm here.Maybe though we shouldn...</title><summary type='text'>I love the enthusiasm here.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Maybe though we shouldn’t complain about the time it took for the Whalen’s poems to be collected.  Think of all those who still haven’t had that done.  Robert Duncan comes immediately to mind, for example. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And Ron, your use of the term “hoaxed up” with regard to the San Francisco Renaissance is too strong.  “Hoaxed” implies an outright fraud.  There </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/7560892442675755365'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/7560892442675755365'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html?showComment=1198084500000#c7560892442675755365' title=''/><author><name>Steven Fama</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13733977161680651117</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4265306894958849197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4265306894958849197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-862679579"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 19, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7089867213997665983</id><published>2007-12-19T11:39:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-19T11:39:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>1963. I was sitting on the floor of the library at...</title><summary type='text'>1963. I was sitting on the floor of the library at the University of Arizona and picked up &lt;I&gt;Memoirs of an Inter-Glacial Age&lt;/I&gt;. The book literally changed my life. Those goddamn monks sitting in the mountains drinking wine and laughing as the world and the cherry blossoms whizzed by. I had seen that poem before but not in that wonderfully huge and generous format. Such a small poem on that big</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/7089867213997665983'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/7089867213997665983'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html?showComment=1198082340000#c7089867213997665983' title=''/><author><name>Bobby Byrd</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17990783036661848472</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4265306894958849197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4265306894958849197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1846872364"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 19, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7450591683296668312</id><published>2007-12-19T10:21:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-19T10:21:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron. I&#39;m definitely tempted to read the Bactria re...</title><summary type='text'>Ron. I&#39;m definitely tempted to read the Bactria reference as about Alexander the great.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Even wikipedia has it:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Alexander conquered Sogdiana and Iran without much difficulty; it was only in to the south, beyond the Oxus, that he met strong resistance. After two years of bloody war Bactria became a province of the Macedonian empire, but Alexander never successfully subdued the </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/7450591683296668312'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/4265306894958849197/comments/default/7450591683296668312'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html?showComment=1198077660000#c7450591683296668312' title=''/><author><name>phaneronoemikon</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08430230355065457354</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://www.hevanet.com/solipsis/images/phanero.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-there-is-one-single-book-id.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4265306894958849197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/4265306894958849197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1411460047"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 19, 2007"/></entry></feed>