<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post5400288989259518713..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>21</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7978351094680366649</id><published>2008-03-30T10:19:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-03-30T10:19:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I think what happens on this blog is, Ron chooses ...</title><summary type='text'>I think what happens on this blog is, Ron chooses poorly in terms of citing something he finds to fit his perception of the poet-in-question&#39;s actual work.  He then selects a fine photo...in this case, I enjoyed the idea of a poet really making a political statement.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But is he i.e. making a statement...er...political or otherwise?  The two things do not make for a very good example of </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/7978351094680366649'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/7978351094680366649'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html?showComment=1206886740000#c7978351094680366649' title=''/><author><name>Meg</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11023871171456340729</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_uYCDfb2QGz8/R-T_8p07tdI/AAAAAAAAALk/-vDDGcPoXP0/S220/Cotton+gully.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5400288989259518713' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5400288989259518713' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-2000124934"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 30, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4872277916876796922</id><published>2008-03-30T09:59:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-03-30T09:59:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Dear Gary,You have misconstrued the whole darn thi...</title><summary type='text'>Dear Gary,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You have misconstrued the whole darn thing.  Happens all the time.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Lifshin is not being compared to Ben.  I was being compared to that unholiest of unholy things around here and that would be:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;being a Billie Collins reader and fan.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Which I am not actually.  Not that I don&#39;t find some of his work quite witty but I just don&#39;t happen to read all that </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/4872277916876796922'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/4872277916876796922'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html?showComment=1206885540000#c4872277916876796922' title=''/><author><name>Meg</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11023871171456340729</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_uYCDfb2QGz8/R-T_8p07tdI/AAAAAAAAALk/-vDDGcPoXP0/S220/Cotton+gully.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5400288989259518713' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5400288989259518713' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-2000124934"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 30, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7449819229421399523</id><published>2008-03-29T12:58:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-03-29T12:58:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Meg,9/11 happened in 2001; Ben&#39;s book, as Ron stat...</title><summary type='text'>Meg,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;9/11 happened in 2001; Ben&#39;s book, as Ron states in the first or second paragraph of his post, covers poetry from 1984-94.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;There&#39;s nothing wrong with liking Lyn Lifshin. I don&#39;t see the two at all in similar leagues, though. There&#39;s a lot going on in Ben&#39;s writing that you&#39;ll see if you keep reading it. That&#39;s not true of Lifshin&#39;s so much, is it?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ben has also done</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/7449819229421399523'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/7449819229421399523'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html?showComment=1206809880000#c7449819229421399523' title=''/><author><name>Gary</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06115441682219034891</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://static.flickr.com/102/263849333_39affc05c6_m.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5400288989259518713' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5400288989259518713' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-350671799"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 29, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8986886015437298242</id><published>2008-03-28T19:56:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-03-28T19:56:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Excellent post, but can we please all stop constru...</title><summary type='text'>Excellent post, but can we please all stop construing the hoary Auden chestnut as an &quot;accusation&quot;, all the while failing to mention the affirmation which follows that crux of a colon? : &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;For poetry makes nothing happen: it survives&lt;BR/&gt;In the valley of its making where executives&lt;BR/&gt;Would never want to tamper, flows on south&lt;BR/&gt;From ranches of isolation and the busy griefs,&lt;BR/&gt;Raw </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/8986886015437298242'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/8986886015437298242'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html?showComment=1206748560000#c8986886015437298242' title=''/><author><name>Nicholas Manning</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12750291349639539140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='28' height='32' src='http://static.flickr.com/100/297698415_31f5f13234.jpg?v=0'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5400288989259518713' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5400288989259518713' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591050484"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 28, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5323495979641678720</id><published>2008-03-28T17:53:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-03-28T17:53:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Meg raises good points here.</title><summary type='text'>Meg raises good points here.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/5323495979641678720'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/5323495979641678720'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html?showComment=1206741180000#c5323495979641678720' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5400288989259518713' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5400288989259518713' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 28, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4554866175017077000</id><published>2008-03-28T14:01:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-03-28T14:01:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;Friedlander&#39;s early poems are still slight. . . ....</title><summary type='text'>&quot;Friedlander&#39;s early poems are still slight. . . .&lt;BR/&gt;And they&#39;re still off-balance, but&lt;BR/&gt;I&#39;m right about their impulse to&lt;BR/&gt;throw the idea of balance overboard&lt;BR/&gt;completely.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In May of 1970, as my final day of&lt;BR/&gt;teaching at Eastern Illinois University&lt;BR/&gt;was about to arrive, I wrote a letter.&lt;BR/&gt;In it I presented Balance as our&lt;BR/&gt;one Utopia.  During 2007 I began&lt;BR/&gt;to </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/4554866175017077000'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/4554866175017077000'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html?showComment=1206727260000#c4554866175017077000' title=''/><author><name>brian salchert</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11649691450577647656</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5400288989259518713' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5400288989259518713' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1297934363"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 28, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-639402069299490391</id><published>2008-03-28T10:33:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-03-28T10:33:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>And my deep apologies to Ms. Lifshin.  I always ge...</title><summary type='text'>And my deep apologies to Ms. Lifshin.  I always get her name wrong even though I&#39;ve got it right in front of me in 4am.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Imagine my delight at appearing alongside the female Collins.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Good Golly.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/639402069299490391'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/639402069299490391'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html?showComment=1206714780000#c639402069299490391' title=''/><author><name>Meg</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11023871171456340729</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_uYCDfb2QGz8/R-T_8p07tdI/AAAAAAAAALk/-vDDGcPoXP0/S220/Cotton+gully.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5400288989259518713' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5400288989259518713' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-2000124934"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 28, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1752356736418765431</id><published>2008-03-28T09:51:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-03-28T09:51:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Poetry that doesn&#39;t try very hard?Is that an insul...</title><summary type='text'>Poetry that doesn&#39;t try very hard?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Is that an insult Ron?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Oh yes.  I am a bumpkin of no renown who wouldn&#39;t know how to pour piss out of a boot even with the instructions written on the heel.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Excuse me, I must have forgotten about that part.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In a sense, I would applaud you if you used Lyn Lipshin instead of Collins this time.  She too....doesn&#39;t try very hard </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/1752356736418765431'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/1752356736418765431'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html?showComment=1206712260000#c1752356736418765431' title=''/><author><name>Meg</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11023871171456340729</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_uYCDfb2QGz8/R-T_8p07tdI/AAAAAAAAALk/-vDDGcPoXP0/S220/Cotton+gully.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5400288989259518713' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5400288989259518713' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-2000124934"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 28, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7784132206508897446</id><published>2008-03-28T07:48:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-03-28T07:48:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I think once we have moved from &quot;fun&quot; to &quot;the ludi...</title><summary type='text'>I think once we have moved from &quot;fun&quot; to &quot;the ludic&quot;, probably most of the fun has been euthanized, I mean shot in the head by a priest.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/7784132206508897446'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/7784132206508897446'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html?showComment=1206704880000#c7784132206508897446' title=''/><author><name>Buck</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04503657076745189153</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5400288989259518713' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5400288989259518713' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-293043333"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 28, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2087273110000497710</id><published>2008-03-28T02:19:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-03-28T02:19:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>re ben and the ludic: what i know of his work is a...</title><summary type='text'>re ben and the ludic: what i know of his work is all &quot;silly fun,&quot; at least from one angle.  Simulcast strikes me as a (somewhat donnish) joke. for ben it would be not so much hopscotch as skateboards; back in the day he prized his thrasher t shirt.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/2087273110000497710'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/2087273110000497710'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html?showComment=1206685140000#c2087273110000497710' title=''/><author><name>Tinker Greene</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16667761674945417190</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5400288989259518713' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5400288989259518713' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-204239496"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 28, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3573111884216206358</id><published>2008-03-27T20:06:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-03-27T20:06:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The duration press website has been updated not to...</title><summary type='text'>The duration press website has been updated not too long ago, Ron. As a matter of fact, it&#39;s even been redesigned. Jerrold also posted some new e-chaps, &lt;I&gt;The Stills&lt;/I&gt;, by kathryn l. pringle, &lt;I&gt;Rude Girl&lt;/I&gt; by John Sakkis and &lt;I&gt;No Can Do&lt;/I&gt; by Alli Warren.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/3573111884216206358'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/3573111884216206358'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html?showComment=1206662760000#c3573111884216206358' title=''/><author><name>François</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06559138766982217784</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/360749881_43aef0cb9e_b.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5400288989259518713' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5400288989259518713' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1777839896"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 27, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8468500163342911143</id><published>2008-03-27T19:08:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-03-27T19:08:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Also easy to see Jack Spicer hovering over &quot;Poem&quot;:...</title><summary type='text'>Also easy to see Jack Spicer hovering over &quot;Poem&quot;: the (k)not, the rope, the FFFfish... &quot;Nursery rhymes that have gone.&quot; Necessary angels</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/8468500163342911143'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/8468500163342911143'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html?showComment=1206659280000#c8468500163342911143' title=''/><author><name>Kirk Johnson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12714098498354846094</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5400288989259518713' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5400288989259518713' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-458221395"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 27, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8629324133472279854</id><published>2008-03-27T16:47:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-03-27T16:47:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>as in duration press? sure they have...i have a ne...</title><summary type='text'>as in duration press? sure they have...i have a new chapbook with them as does alli warren, brandon brown and kate pringle...we&#39;re on the website.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;http://www.durationpress.com/bookstore/index.htm</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/8629324133472279854'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/8629324133472279854'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html?showComment=1206650820000#c8629324133472279854' title=''/><author><name>John Sakkis</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08621102858745971700</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2801/1876/1600/dusiephoto.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5400288989259518713' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5400288989259518713' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1144833194"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 27, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7988802389169790929</id><published>2008-03-27T16:20:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-03-27T16:20:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I don&#39;t think the duration site has been updated i...</title><summary type='text'>I don&#39;t think the duration site has been updated in several years. It has all the earmarks of a dead site.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/7988802389169790929'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/7988802389169790929'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html?showComment=1206649200000#c7988802389169790929' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/silliman/silliman2a.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5400288989259518713' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5400288989259518713' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 27, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6244714378538847469</id><published>2008-03-27T15:14:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-03-27T15:14:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by the author.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/6244714378538847469'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/6244714378538847469'/><author><name>phaneronoemikon</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08430230355065457354</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_hLJ2N7ZOgD8/R6EJKLnXPdI/AAAAAAAAAS4/2kJ0hAZuqOs/S220/Ozilanniman.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5400288989259518713' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5400288989259518713' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1411460047"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 27, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-199361122187565195</id><published>2008-03-27T14:59:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-03-27T14:59:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Thanks for this review, Ron. I&#39;ve been reading Ben...</title><summary type='text'>Thanks for this review, Ron. I&#39;ve been reading Ben&#39;s work for decades now--he&#39;s one of my favorites.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Subpress does have a Web site, but it hasn&#39;t been updated in a while, so maybe that should be &quot;did&quot; rather than &quot;does.&quot; (Ben&#39;s book isn&#39;t listed in the catalog.) It&#39;s at:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;http://www.durationpress.com/subpress</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/199361122187565195'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/199361122187565195'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html?showComment=1206644340000#c199361122187565195' title=''/><author><name>Gary</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06115441682219034891</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://static.flickr.com/102/263849333_39affc05c6_m.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5400288989259518713' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5400288989259518713' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-350671799"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 27, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-498737849157753083</id><published>2008-03-27T11:31:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-03-27T11:31:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I heartily agree Ben Friedlander is one of the mos...</title><summary type='text'>I heartily agree Ben Friedlander is one of the most interesting critics at work. Jed Rasula is another.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The suggestion of a close correspondence, though, between Auden&#39;s resigned admonition and Adorno&#39;s stance is a bit off. Here&#39;s Adorno (I use the quote, actually, as epigraph to Lyric Poetry after Auschwitz: Eleven Submissions to the War):&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;�I have no wish to soften the saying </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/498737849157753083'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/498737849157753083'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html?showComment=1206631860000#c498737849157753083' title=''/><author><name>Kent Johnson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15233688630151467658</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5400288989259518713' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5400288989259518713' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-901447242"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 27, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-116528674960004517</id><published>2008-03-27T11:26:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-03-27T11:26:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;and ultimately feeling that sadness you do when g...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;and ultimately feeling that sadness &lt;I&gt;you&lt;/I&gt; do when getting to the end of a great book that it’s over, there is no more.&quot; (italics added)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I don&#39;t feel sad when I get to the end of a well-written book.  The first read -- or the second or third or forth, etc. is just the beginning.  To twist the the line from an old Robbie Robertson song, when I get to the end, I get to start all over </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/116528674960004517'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/116528674960004517'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html?showComment=1206631560000#c116528674960004517' title=''/><author><name>Steven Fama</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13733977161680651117</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5400288989259518713' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5400288989259518713' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-862679579"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 27, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-296477783935225214</id><published>2008-03-27T10:44:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-03-27T10:44:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ah, Meg,You really want lite fare, try Billy Colli...</title><summary type='text'>Ah, Meg,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You really want lite fare, try Billy Collins. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Some of us are infinitely bored by poetry that doesn&#39;t try very hard. Ben, on the other hand, gives it everything he has. I&#39;ll take that any day, a value that lasts,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ron</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/296477783935225214'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/296477783935225214'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html?showComment=1206629040000#c296477783935225214' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/silliman/silliman2a.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5400288989259518713' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5400288989259518713' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 27, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-326585930930689055</id><published>2008-03-27T09:58:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-03-27T09:58:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>A perfect poem?Well, I don&#39;t know about that.  Wha...</title><summary type='text'>A perfect poem?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Well, I don&#39;t know about that.  What I do know is that the mixed message is so mixed up by the end of it that I am also mixed up.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I mean, the line is somehow trapped?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Okay.  Maybe someone should let it go, free it up.  You know, cut it loose and let it talk or something.  As far as I can tell it tells me nothing that I need to know, produces in me no </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/326585930930689055'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/326585930930689055'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html?showComment=1206626280000#c326585930930689055' title=''/><author><name>Meg</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11023871171456340729</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_uYCDfb2QGz8/R-T_8p07tdI/AAAAAAAAALk/-vDDGcPoXP0/S220/Cotton+gully.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5400288989259518713' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5400288989259518713' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-2000124934"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 27, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8432091262684918555</id><published>2008-03-27T07:50:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-03-27T07:50:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I just love this blog. Love it! Love it!</title><summary type='text'>I just love this blog. Love it! Love it!</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/8432091262684918555'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5400288989259518713/comments/default/8432091262684918555'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html?showComment=1206618600000#c8432091262684918555' title=''/><author><name>Nikesh Murali</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/10321473140189863046</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j23/nikesh_murali/P9110012.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/03/back-in-mid-1980s-all-i-knew-of-ben.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5400288989259518713' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5400288989259518713' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1249945270"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 27, 2008"/></entry></feed>