<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post545914496916413471..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>47</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6581609571622059283</id><published>2008-06-19T13:54:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-19T13:54:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Furthermore, what we perhaps most disastrously lac...</title><summary type='text'>Furthermore, what we perhaps most disastrously lack is a believable working definition of what might constitute &quot;Official Verse Culture&quot; at this point. Oh boy is it out there, but the definition is sorely out of date. Of the two planks you describe above, neither offers a convincing vision of what we&#39;re up against. One evokes a non-existent &quot;political correctness&quot; bogeyman, while the other evokes</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/6581609571622059283'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/6581609571622059283'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html?showComment=1213898040000#c6581609571622059283' title=''/><author><name>Tim Peterson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12788267620443595389</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_Ss3Eh44fNE8/SA0iNXCbgcI/AAAAAAAAABU/POvOEYAF3jo/S220/tim_2008.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-545914496916413471' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/545914496916413471' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-255165047"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 19, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6169997400966444369</id><published>2008-06-19T13:44:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-19T13:44:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Not sure I want to get involved in another one of ...</title><summary type='text'>Not sure I want to get involved in another one of these accursed fantasy football taxonomy conversations, but here goes:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;What&#39;s with all this top-down conceptualizing? Coalitions? Reeeeaaaallly.......What you&#39;re descibing sound to me like two planks with hardly anyone standing on them yet.  Plank? Plunk! &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Why don&#39;t we try to build up from actual social formations and their </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/6169997400966444369'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/6169997400966444369'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html?showComment=1213897440000#c6169997400966444369' title=''/><author><name>Tim Peterson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12788267620443595389</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_Ss3Eh44fNE8/SA0iNXCbgcI/AAAAAAAAABU/POvOEYAF3jo/S220/tim_2008.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-545914496916413471' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/545914496916413471' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-255165047"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 19, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5047061863110674503</id><published>2008-06-18T08:34:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-18T08:34:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Hi Art (no pun intended):Strictly speaking, the li...</title><summary type='text'>Hi Art (no pun intended):&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Strictly speaking, the lists are not mine, but the collective&#39;s :-)</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/5047061863110674503'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/5047061863110674503'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html?showComment=1213792440000#c5047061863110674503' title=''/><author><name>Nada</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01448534316756256503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://static.flickr.com/119/316140010_e2bd73b381_s.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-545914496916413471' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/545914496916413471' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1564832188"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 18, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8849219790077366200</id><published>2008-06-17T21:12:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-17T21:12:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Nada&#39;s flarferly lists remind of nothing so much a...</title><summary type='text'>Nada&#39;s flarferly lists remind of nothing so much as the great &quot;Art Damage Manifesto&quot; that was published in the late lamented MONDO 2000 magazine, in the early nineties. (I hesitate to say that therefore both flarf and conceptual poetry are nothing new, because my intent is not dismissive; but then again, I don&#39;t think they&#39;re anything really new, just new labels for a new generation.) The Art </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/8849219790077366200'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/8849219790077366200'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html?showComment=1213751520000#c8849219790077366200' title=''/><author><name>Art Durkee</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07463180236975988432</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='20' height='32' src='http://www.arthurdurkee.net/images/ADSTICK1.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-545914496916413471' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/545914496916413471' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1315265054"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 17, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2351668085672740936</id><published>2008-06-17T16:36:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-17T16:36:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/2351668085672740936'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/2351668085672740936'/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-545914496916413471' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/545914496916413471' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1686078069"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 17, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8644822399014946912</id><published>2008-06-17T13:49:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-17T13:49:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>A lot of the various groups trace a root in Reznik...</title><summary type='text'>A lot of the various groups trace a root in Reznikoff.  Ginsberg and Corso liked him, Bernstein likes him, whatever Mairead Byrne is, she likes him, I think he&#39;s likeable to all factions.  I think that Larry Fagin liked Reznikoff, too.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Maybe Reznikoff is a more powerful progenitor than he&#39;s commonly credited for.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;A lot of the different factions look back to the Objectivists, and</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/8644822399014946912'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/8644822399014946912'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html?showComment=1213724940000#c8644822399014946912' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-545914496916413471' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/545914496916413471' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 17, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6587476592808132757</id><published>2008-06-17T10:09:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-17T10:09:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>STILL MORE &quot;Flarfy dyptoids&quot; (submitted by the Col...</title><summary type='text'>STILL MORE &quot;Flarfy dyptoids&quot; (submitted by the Collective):&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Affect / WTF!&lt;BR/&gt;Nietzsche / Itchy Doodles from Roonco&lt;BR/&gt;Pilgrimage / Vans&lt;BR/&gt;Thomas Mann / Nina Hagen&lt;BR/&gt;Johnny Carson / Captain Kangaroo&lt;BR/&gt;Jean Baudrillard / Rakim&lt;BR/&gt;Michel Foucault / Mr. Clean&lt;BR/&gt;Roland Barthes / Rowan and Martin&lt;BR/&gt;Manchurian Candidate / Creature from the Black Lagoon&lt;BR/&gt;Communism / All Nekkid! </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/6587476592808132757'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/6587476592808132757'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html?showComment=1213711740000#c6587476592808132757' title=''/><author><name>Nada</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01448534316756256503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://static.flickr.com/119/316140010_e2bd73b381_s.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-545914496916413471' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/545914496916413471' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1564832188"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 17, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7679865006895626669</id><published>2008-06-17T03:35:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-17T03:35:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>This stream is fun, not very angry at all (thanks ...</title><summary type='text'>This stream is fun, not very angry at all (thanks especially for the lists, Nada!). &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ron, it doesn’t sound like you’re in much trouble. Of course, none of the Conceptualists have weighed in—which is characteristic; they know that the &lt;I&gt;idea&lt;/I&gt; of their participation in this conversation is more interesting than the actuality of it could possibly be. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It’s important not to </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/7679865006895626669'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/7679865006895626669'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html?showComment=1213688100000#c7679865006895626669' title=''/><author><name>Cannot Exist</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/10167824836001706644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-545914496916413471' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/545914496916413471' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1617347097"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 17, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6916211574581810763</id><published>2008-06-17T02:59:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-17T02:59:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>If I had an opinion, I guess I&#39;d say this feels li...</title><summary type='text'>If I had an opinion, I guess I&#39;d say this feels like a game where pushing wood is the only move.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But CF! How perfectly goddamned delightful to be sure to hear you not much giving a damn!</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/6916211574581810763'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/6916211574581810763'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html?showComment=1213685940000#c6916211574581810763' title=''/><author><name>Kirk Johnson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12714098498354846094</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-545914496916413471' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/545914496916413471' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-458221395"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 17, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3330102046989091822</id><published>2008-06-17T00:32:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-17T00:32:00.001-04:00</updated><title type='text'>POETRYby Ken Burns</title><summary type='text'>POETRY&lt;BR/&gt;by Ken Burns</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/3330102046989091822'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/3330102046989091822'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html?showComment=1213677120001#c3330102046989091822' title=''/><author><name>mel</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01519018855886569774</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-545914496916413471' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/545914496916413471' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1393277534"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 17, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2366351870162957823</id><published>2008-06-17T00:32:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-17T00:32:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Thanks Ron, that&#39;s a pretty Flarfy post. I actuall...</title><summary type='text'>Thanks Ron, that&#39;s a pretty Flarfy post. I actually think the best analogy might be conceptual poetry as   Wiley E Coyote &amp; Flarf as the cliff. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&amp; btw we&#39;ve been lucky here in DC to have an entire bouquet of Jack Spicers. Maybe that&#39;s why we &quot;get along.&quot;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/2366351870162957823'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/2366351870162957823'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html?showComment=1213677120000#c2366351870162957823' title=''/><author><name>Rod</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13610552201816483327</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-545914496916413471' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/545914496916413471' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1195702441"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 17, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-9074835157406493984</id><published>2008-06-16T23:22:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-16T23:22:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I&#39;ll further add, that the parenthetical in Ron&#39;s ...</title><summary type='text'>I&#39;ll further add, that the parenthetical in Ron&#39;s statement, &quot;Everyone else was pursuing the isolato mode of individualism, still the most popular (and futile) option&quot; is just sad.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;All my favorites work in the &quot;isolato mode.&quot; &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And that includes you Ron, whether you want to acknowledge it or not is up to you. But trust me, history will so find, regardless of your collective </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/9074835157406493984'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/9074835157406493984'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html?showComment=1213672920000#c9074835157406493984' title=''/><author><name>Steven Fama</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13733977161680651117</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-545914496916413471' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/545914496916413471' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-862679579"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 16, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4079614273407882573</id><published>2008-06-16T23:18:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-16T23:18:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Since we&#39;re playing make-believe, can I be Han Sol...</title><summary type='text'>Since we&#39;re playing make-believe, can I be Han Solo?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/4079614273407882573'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/4079614273407882573'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html?showComment=1213672680000#c4079614273407882573' title=''/><author><name>Michael Ford</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17100534708541452528</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://farm1.static.flickr.com/207/494796463_3a1a7bf449.jpg?v=0'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-545914496916413471' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/545914496916413471' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1167504029"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 16, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-9118517485277313451</id><published>2008-06-16T23:09:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-16T23:09:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;Nada Gordon &amp; Katie Degentesh don’t have to fight...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;Nada Gordon &amp; Katie Degentesh don’t have to fight over who gets to be Denise Levertov (both are considerably more interesting in the long run, anyway.)&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Even as a joke, this seems kinda, um, quietist, relegating the women to the same old predictable sidelines. I won&#39;t even mention...oh, OK...race. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Are you implying the American avant garde today is a farce?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;--Guillermo</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/9118517485277313451'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/9118517485277313451'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html?showComment=1213672140000#c9118517485277313451' title=''/><author><name>GJPW</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13383940105241352465</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_vY8ZDumH8EQ/R1Y8OuFuKiI/AAAAAAAAAJ4/C0vcYDgv9sk/S220/Self-Portrait.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-545914496916413471' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/545914496916413471' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-669631030"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 16, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-796838895476275876</id><published>2008-06-16T23:05:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-16T23:05:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I will repeat here that I love Nada Gordon. This i...</title><summary type='text'>I will repeat here that I love Nada Gordon. This is redundant by now (via &quot;Exit, pursued by a bear&quot; blog) but it is necessary. The false hierarchies that have been applied in this discourse; the linear time line; the clean historical material is just logocentric and misleading. The semiotic turn, the linguistic turn, the L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E turn, the postmodern turn, the flarf gestures etc etc etc. </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/796838895476275876'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/796838895476275876'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html?showComment=1213671900000#c796838895476275876' title=''/><author><name>LM Rivera</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03593189117151224128</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='21' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_KGRM4WkDKnc/SDp8tUFzFXI/AAAAAAAAAWQ/ogJDCbqJN8c/S220/hyena+leg.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-545914496916413471' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/545914496916413471' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1947898231"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 16, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1210856578887657977</id><published>2008-06-16T22:11:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-16T22:11:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I don&#39;t much give a damn whether Flarf or contempo...</title><summary type='text'>I don&#39;t much give a damn whether Flarf or contemporary &quot;Conceptual Poetry&quot; correspond to the poetics of two generations back or not.  Kind of a dull question, in my view.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I did run into this quotation in a big anthology published back in 1976 called Actors On Acting, New York: Crown Publishers, Edited by Toby Cole and Helen Krich Chinoy.  In their Introductory section on 20th Century </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/1210856578887657977'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/1210856578887657977'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html?showComment=1213668660000#c1210856578887657977' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-545914496916413471' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/545914496916413471' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 16, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8169865907205969712</id><published>2008-06-16T21:45:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-16T21:45:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>In recent weeks I&#39;ve been thinking/talking about t...</title><summary type='text'>In recent weeks I&#39;ve been thinking/talking about the present Bay Area poetry scene(s).  How thriving and thrilling it is here now.  How it is not centered around a &#39;group.  It is time-based and space-based in a way that unfortunately, those in other times and spaces will not/can not understand, or I guess even feel the effects of...  Sorry for that.  Y&#39;all should visit more often.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/8169865907205969712'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/8169865907205969712'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html?showComment=1213667100000#c8169865907205969712' title=''/><author><name>estaiti</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07136953635595198713</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-545914496916413471' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/545914496916413471' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-2029017242"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 16, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7364879358599387036</id><published>2008-06-16T21:18:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-16T21:18:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Mmm, yum, more!  They just keep rolling in:John Ca...</title><summary type='text'>Mmm, yum, more!  They just keep rolling in:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;John Cage / Gerardo De Leon&lt;BR/&gt;Alain Séchas / Uh, Baroness Von Ilsa, She-Wolf of New York&lt;BR/&gt;Robert Smithson, BMX&lt;BR/&gt;Fluxism / &quot;Garage Saling&quot; with people in arm or leg casts for therapy.&lt;BR/&gt;The Informe / All messed up and stuff (and junk).&lt;BR/&gt;Situationism / The TV show &quot;Emergency&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;Arte Povera / Poems about Oscar the Grouch by people </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/7364879358599387036'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/7364879358599387036'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html?showComment=1213665480000#c7364879358599387036' title=''/><author><name>Nada</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01448534316756256503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://static.flickr.com/119/316140010_e2bd73b381_s.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-545914496916413471' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/545914496916413471' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1564832188"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 16, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8139475956229715550</id><published>2008-06-16T20:16:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-16T20:16:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>A few more:Conceptual / FlarfOulipo / fake dog poo...</title><summary type='text'>A few more:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Conceptual / Flarf&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Oulipo / fake dog poo&lt;BR/&gt;Robert Smithson / &quot;danger, Will Robinson&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;MOMA / yo momma&lt;BR/&gt;Intermedia / internet porn&lt;BR/&gt;Joseph Beuys / Baby Huey&lt;BR/&gt;the Weather Underground / the Weather Underground (CP doesn&#39;t get to hog them)&lt;BR/&gt;photorealism / photomurals of forests and waterfalls</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/8139475956229715550'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/8139475956229715550'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html?showComment=1213661760000#c8139475956229715550' title=''/><author><name>Nada</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01448534316756256503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://static.flickr.com/119/316140010_e2bd73b381_s.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-545914496916413471' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/545914496916413471' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1564832188"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 16, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8594630492344784345</id><published>2008-06-16T19:51:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-16T19:51:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron, I&#39;d really urge to reflect on why you think a...</title><summary type='text'>Ron, I&#39;d really urge to reflect on why you think an analogy like this is in any way helpful to anything at all.  I was braced after you expressed doubts about posting it, but I was still stunned at the breadth and hubris of your reductions, not to mention the anti-intellectual simplicity of even wanting to graph two distinct historical periods onto one another.  Usually I&#39;m pretty forgiving about</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/8594630492344784345'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/8594630492344784345'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html?showComment=1213660260000#c8594630492344784345' title=''/><author><name>Brent Cunningham</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15120606584372602345</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='21' src='http://www.spdbooks.org/photo2.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-545914496916413471' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/545914496916413471' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1935263046"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 16, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3121216943165050492</id><published>2008-06-16T19:42:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-16T19:42:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>If Flarf has to be Projective Verse, can I please ...</title><summary type='text'>If Flarf has to be Projective Verse, can I please not be Olson?  Instead, can I be ... could I be, um ... how about....&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Can Flarf please not be Projective Verse?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/3121216943165050492'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/3121216943165050492'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html?showComment=1213659720000#c3121216943165050492' title=''/><author><name>K. Silem Mohammad</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13353259413006470925</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://static.flickr.com/51/160164695_7c06bdbec2_m.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-545914496916413471' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/545914496916413471' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1830147097"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 16, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2172736344675295480</id><published>2008-06-16T19:12:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-16T19:12:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/2172736344675295480'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/2172736344675295480'/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-545914496916413471' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/545914496916413471' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1686078069"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 16, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5099330059432395083</id><published>2008-06-16T17:57:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-16T17:57:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>maybe flarfists are the beats: deliberate provocat...</title><summary type='text'>maybe flarfists are the beats: deliberate provocateurs challenging stale cooked conventions with highly stylized raw awfulness; with rod smith as burroughs, ben friedlander as ginsburg, kasey mohammad as kerouac, gary sullivan as cassady, drew gardner as corso, nada gordon as diane diprima, anne boyer as joyce johnson, katie degentesh as mary fabilli, and sharon mesmer as leonore kandel.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/5099330059432395083'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/5099330059432395083'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html?showComment=1213653420000#c5099330059432395083' title=''/><author><name>tmorange</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13540323590390887131</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_dxOz_XfhS4A/SBkzZtbVuAI/AAAAAAAAAEE/xYKQxv3rA1U/S220/jl.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-545914496916413471' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/545914496916413471' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-348262623"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 16, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3776819654524774110</id><published>2008-06-16T17:02:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-16T17:02:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by the author.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/3776819654524774110'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/3776819654524774110'/><author><name>shanna</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17706867356078179503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='23' src='http://shannacompton.com/shanna6-07.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-545914496916413471' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/545914496916413471' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-927990281"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 16, 2008"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8474164923379847972</id><published>2008-06-16T16:20:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-16T16:20:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Maybe this list will make the distinction a little...</title><summary type='text'>Maybe this list will make the distinction a little more clear (collaboratively authored by the Flarflist Collective):&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Conceptual Poetics/ Flarf&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Kraftwerk/ Kraft Macaroni &amp; Cheese&lt;BR/&gt;Madonna/ Lucille Ball&lt;BR/&gt;Lord of the Rings/ Little Lord Fauntleroy&lt;BR/&gt;Popular Mechanics/Tiger Beat&lt;BR/&gt;Techno/smegma&lt;BR/&gt;algorithms/sleestack&lt;BR/&gt;Brian Eno / The Raincoats&lt;BR/&gt;Paul Sharrits / Jack</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/8474164923379847972'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/545914496916413471/comments/default/8474164923379847972'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html?showComment=1213647600000#c8474164923379847972' title=''/><author><name>Nada</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01448534316756256503</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://static.flickr.com/119/316140010_e2bd73b381_s.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2008/06/this-is-only-going-to-get-me-into.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-545914496916413471' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/545914496916413471' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1564832188"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="June 16, 2008"/></entry></feed>