<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post5867234507258627754..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>39</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2681225497492549809</id><published>2009-03-23T12:12:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-23T12:12:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Nick,That&#39;s a very good point. I feel like I&#39;m nea...</title><summary type='text'>Nick,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;That&#39;s a very good point. I feel like I&#39;m near the end of a phase in which I try to read everything I can, getting ready to return to rereading, longer lingering. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;What &lt;I&gt;does&lt;/I&gt; it mean for poetry, this apparent age of warp-speed reading? I don&#39;t think I like it. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Kevin Davies&#39; book, incidentally, is one of the handful I think I&#39;ll reread, and more than once. &lt;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/2681225497492549809'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/2681225497492549809'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html?showComment=1237824720000#c2681225497492549809' title=''/><author><name>Andy Gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04367834692026653431</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6k4HvGxKtyg/SVPBwJ5AtYI/AAAAAAAAACI/AIiTa7_THRM/S220/Shadow+Head.JPG'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5867234507258627754' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5867234507258627754' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1668048852"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 23, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7350871503548027767</id><published>2009-03-23T08:44:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-23T08:44:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Boris Groys&#39; ideas in his essay &quot;On the New&quot; (http...</title><summary type='text'>Boris Groys&#39; ideas in his essay &quot;On the New&quot; (http://www.uoc.edu/artnodes/eng/art/groys1002/groys1002.html) may be of interest here, particularly in view of Ron&#39;s role as a curator of the interweb poetry &quot;museum.&quot;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/7350871503548027767'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/7350871503548027767'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html?showComment=1237812240000#c7350871503548027767' title=''/><author><name>Chris</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/10631998353211686852</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5867234507258627754' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5867234507258627754' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-258117968"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 23, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5032804676700618816</id><published>2009-03-22T17:24:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-22T17:24:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Anyone who wants to read more about the &#39;erasure&#39; ...</title><summary type='text'>Anyone who wants to read more about the &#39;erasure&#39; of Shakespeare&#39;s sonnets might want to check out Andy Frazee&#39;s &quot;&#39;Present Absent&#39;:  The Dependence on / Transcendence of &#39;Shakespeare&#39; in Stephen Ratcliffe&#39;s &#39;[where late the sweet] BIRDS SANG&#39; and Jen Bervin&#39;s &#39;Nets&#39;&quot;in Jacket (http://jacketmagazine.com/36/frazee-ratcliffe-bervin.shtml).</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/5032804676700618816'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/5032804676700618816'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html?showComment=1237757040000#c5032804676700618816' title=''/><author><name>STEPHEN RATCLIFFE</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12339481653546188412</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5867234507258627754' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5867234507258627754' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1996291811"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 22, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6643567498547204744</id><published>2009-03-22T13:21:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-22T13:21:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>umm...delete the irrelevant &amp;amp; dumb Ginsberg id...</title><summary type='text'>umm...delete the irrelevant &amp;amp; dumb Ginsberg idea at the end of my previous comment -- spontaneity is definitely a whole different matter. But my question about Duncan stands.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/6643567498547204744'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/6643567498547204744'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html?showComment=1237742460000#c6643567498547204744' title=''/><author><name>Annandale Dream Gazette</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08155953951163636760</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5867234507258627754' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5867234507258627754' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1293329833"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 22, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7697516072973194726</id><published>2009-03-22T12:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-22T12:00:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron,How might one react to Robert Duncan&amp;#39;s sta...</title><summary type='text'>Ron,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;How might one react to Robert Duncan&amp;#39;s statements about how nothing is really original, if one is to go along with the idea that the first &amp;amp; the different is what makes literary history? Is Robert Duncan&amp;#39;s work unimportant, then, in an historical context? &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;How do you, or do you, hold those two ideas (make it new &amp;amp; nothing is original) simultaneously?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/7697516072973194726'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/7697516072973194726'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html?showComment=1237737600000#c7697516072973194726' title=''/><author><name>Annandale Dream Gazette</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08155953951163636760</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5867234507258627754' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5867234507258627754' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1293329833"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 22, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4669319342937763706</id><published>2009-03-22T11:53:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-22T11:53:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>How does it go?  --mediocre artists borrow, but gr...</title><summary type='text'>How does it go?  --mediocre artists borrow, but great artists steal?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Making something your own, by doing it better or using it in a more interesting way.  Whoever &quot;made up&quot; the sonnet made Shakespeare&#39;s Sonnets possible, but does that mean Shakespeare&#39;s Sonnets aren&#39;t as good as they are?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Obiously not.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Nice post, Geof.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/4669319342937763706'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/4669319342937763706'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html?showComment=1237737180000#c4669319342937763706' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5867234507258627754' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5867234507258627754' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 22, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-9139208599786964740</id><published>2009-03-21T13:40:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-21T13:40:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron,A simple comment:Since Ronald Johnson&#39;s &quot;Radi ...</title><summary type='text'>Ron,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;A simple comment:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Since Ronald Johnson&#39;s &quot;Radi Os&quot; (however we might write it) hit the presses in 1976, and da levy&#39;s &quot;Tibetan Stroboscope,&quot; a work of visual poetry that preserved the visible evidence of his cancellations, came out in 1968, then, by your arguments above, Johnson&#39;s work is of little import--unless we care to distinguish between cancellation poetry that shows</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/9139208599786964740'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/9139208599786964740'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html?showComment=1237657200000#c9139208599786964740' title=''/><author><name>Geof Huth</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04763053227479195348</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/186/968/1024/HUTH21.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5867234507258627754' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5867234507258627754' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-599696549"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 21, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3445281769460819458</id><published>2009-03-21T11:25:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-21T11:25:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron- An absorbing essay and fascinating follow-up ...</title><summary type='text'>Ron- An absorbing essay and fascinating follow-up comments by your readers as well. Your blog has obviously become a forum that no contemporary poet can afford to miss.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;As to the 10-50,000 poets writing today, it occurred to me this morning, as I perused a 2008 book by Kevin Davies-The Golden Age of Paraphernalia- that poetry used to be an art you came back to and thought about, reread </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/3445281769460819458'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/3445281769460819458'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html?showComment=1237649100000#c3445281769460819458' title=''/><author><name>Nick Piombino</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13568121496784551556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='29' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0o9bTerlUvU/SPtBGdDD8rI/AAAAAAAAAAM/80JLMIXWpxA/S220/piombino.jpeg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5867234507258627754' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5867234507258627754' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1835391286"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 21, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7918655314540913721</id><published>2009-03-20T18:20:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-20T18:20:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Like other commenters, I would be inordinately gra...</title><summary type='text'>Like other commenters, I would be inordinately grateful to see EAVES OF ASS appear in print. If nobody else erases it, I might have to do so myself.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;G    M  AY</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/7918655314540913721'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/7918655314540913721'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html?showComment=1237587600000#c7918655314540913721' title=''/><author><name>Gwyn</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/14703011539022622724</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5867234507258627754' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5867234507258627754' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-726248114"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 20, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8704443167700869933</id><published>2009-03-20T02:06:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-20T02:06:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Hi Ron--thanks for your attention to the book. I h...</title><summary type='text'>Hi Ron--thanks for your attention to the book. I have to agree with Susan (who, in full disclosure, blurbed the book) that if you don&#39;t read it as a continuation of a dialogue about war, you&#39;re missing the point. It&#39;s a feminist book, and a pacifist book. It is not only about process.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/8704443167700869933'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/8704443167700869933'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html?showComment=1237529160000#c8704443167700869933' title=''/><author><name>Janet</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01426170210922815634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5867234507258627754' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5867234507258627754' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1098849007"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 20, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5548972760727609251</id><published>2009-03-20T01:39:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-20T01:39:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>In Ron&#39;s post the question gets muddled--or, rathe...</title><summary type='text'>In Ron&#39;s post the question gets muddled--or, rather, there are a few of them, and they get conflated. The real question, it seems to me, is:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;Why is work X (in this case, Holmes and Hayes), which seems like it should excite me, not particularly compelling?&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Though that question may involve the work&#39;s relation to predecessors, I don&#39;t think the issue of &quot;newness&quot; is the final, or</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/5548972760727609251'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/5548972760727609251'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html?showComment=1237527540000#c5548972760727609251' title=''/><author><name>Andy Gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04367834692026653431</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6k4HvGxKtyg/SVPBwJ5AtYI/AAAAAAAAACI/AIiTa7_THRM/S220/Shadow+Head.JPG'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5867234507258627754' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5867234507258627754' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1668048852"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 20, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6847049734578371722</id><published>2009-03-19T23:50:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-19T23:50:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I tend to agree with Johannes.A couple of random t...</title><summary type='text'>I tend to agree with Johannes.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;A couple of random thoughts, though:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;1.Doesn&#39;t Holmes work insure, to a degree, that the poetry community will be reading erasure poetry in the future. She is making a decision to continue the tradition through this text. You pointed that out, but I think it is a bit more explicit. She _ is _ working in an inherited form.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;2.In terms &#39;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/6847049734578371722'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/6847049734578371722'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html?showComment=1237521000000#c6847049734578371722' title=''/><author><name>Aaron Apps</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11387237324417934642</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5867234507258627754' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5867234507258627754' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1272311462"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 19, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8821812974278016432</id><published>2009-03-19T22:35:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-19T22:35:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>OWL I can do without.  EAVES OF ASS, however--well...</title><summary type='text'>OWL I can do without.  EAVES OF ASS, however--well done,  on  ill  man!  I&#39;m ready to read it.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Actually, Johnson&#39;s book seems terribly overrated except for its (slightly) original composition via decomposition.  It&#39;s too flat, bathed in a hippie glow, to take seriously.  Milton without sin?  It&#39;s all sunset and beaches.  No thanks.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/8821812974278016432'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/8821812974278016432'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html?showComment=1237516500000#c8821812974278016432' title=''/><author><name>Philip Metres</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05449159681282927289</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_eGjQHlCwcMM/SX8cfsdcgeI/AAAAAAAABC8/wEMAwcP_W5k/S220/Phil+and+Adele+2008.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5867234507258627754' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5867234507258627754' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1498505073"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 19, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1481671083195801068</id><published>2009-03-19T21:59:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-19T21:59:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Nothing here has been said about Johnson&#39;s concret...</title><summary type='text'>Nothing here has been said about Johnson&#39;s concrete poetry preoccupation.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Somehow, for me, RADIOS has more in common with that interest, than his fascination with visionary poetics as such.  It&#39;s like confronting Milton as a synthetic text--as if it had no standing as a literary landmark, but was simply a design, like a vein of ore, containing specks, nuggets and seams of material, of no</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/1481671083195801068'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/1481671083195801068'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html?showComment=1237514340000#c1481671083195801068' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5867234507258627754' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5867234507258627754' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 19, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6204946668467953734</id><published>2009-03-19T21:29:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-19T21:29:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;What interests me in the Berrigan Sonnets isn&#39;t t...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;What interests me in the Berrigan Sonnets isn&#39;t the fact that he&#39;s &quot;inside&quot; a sonnet form, but that he&#39;s making changes and echoes and chance combinations--rather like Burroughs does in his prose works. He gets some tension out of the cramping of the form, but the liberation he found doesn&#39;t lie in the adaptation of a new language/linguistic facility--it&#39;s what he does with different/competing </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/6204946668467953734'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/6204946668467953734'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html?showComment=1237512540000#c6204946668467953734' title=''/><author><name>Tom Beckett</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08956557701199101102</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5867234507258627754' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5867234507258627754' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1611280848"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 19, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3428700446133769068</id><published>2009-03-19T21:01:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-19T21:01:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I guess I don&#39;t tend to think in terms of poetic p...</title><summary type='text'>I guess I don&#39;t tend to think in terms of poetic progress, so the basic terms of Ron&#39;s questions I find to be difficult to affirm. It seems like what Ron&#39;s really talking about is taste: he reads the works just now before him and wonders, with generous sincerity and curiosity, &quot;can I make a bet on these being relevant in x or y number of years?&quot; In previous eras, the way that this would be </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/3428700446133769068'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/3428700446133769068'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html?showComment=1237510860000#c3428700446133769068' title=''/><author><name>TT</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15765857872778493229</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5867234507258627754' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5867234507258627754' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1599768463"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 19, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2898721318598273792</id><published>2009-03-19T20:13:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-19T20:13:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>thank you ron &amp;amp; co. for all of yr words and fo...</title><summary type='text'>thank you ron &amp;amp; co. for all of yr words and for having this discussion.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;a quick note: RecollecTed (o6) and CaGeD (o7) were both previously published as part of the dusie kollektiv. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;thanks for the the link to CaGeD...&lt;BR/&gt;here is the link to RecollecTed: &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;http://www.dusie.org/Recollected.pdf &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;and please check out the dynamic innovative poetries happening </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/2898721318598273792'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/2898721318598273792'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html?showComment=1237507980000#c2898721318598273792' title=''/><author><name>Hayes</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/02174339060679174703</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='17' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_be40JmDuyGE/SAEcZ-5SlHI/AAAAAAAAANY/sFapHHTAnSk/S220/jaredbiopic+Kopie+Kopie.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5867234507258627754' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5867234507258627754' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1202509355"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 19, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7218211804372213037</id><published>2009-03-19T19:12:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-19T19:12:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Let&#39;s see . . . Lentini is generally credited with...</title><summary type='text'>Let&#39;s see . . . &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Lentini is generally credited with being the innovator of the sonnet form, and yet the ulitmate exemplar of that innovation of form are . .  . (you fill in the blank)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;and after you do, consider how that fact undercuts the emphasis on valuing the pioneer or &quot;first&quot; innovator.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;More directly, the Lentini versus Shakespeare (or whoever you might substitute)</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/7218211804372213037'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/7218211804372213037'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html?showComment=1237504320000#c7218211804372213037' title=''/><author><name>Steven Fama</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13733977161680651117</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5867234507258627754' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5867234507258627754' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-862679579"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 19, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2468315112587965668</id><published>2009-03-19T17:41:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-19T17:41:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron,Not to beat a dead horse--I know this post had...</title><summary type='text'>Ron,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Not to beat a dead horse--I know this post had little to do with the size of the poetry community, if anything--but I&#39;d be remiss if I didn&#39;t point out the &lt;EM&gt;certainty&lt;/EM&gt; that there are (literally) hundreds of aspiring poets who are &lt;EM&gt;simply current students in MFA programs&lt;/EM&gt; in NYC (a miniscule, two-year, aged 24-25 cohort in the entire NYC poetry community).  Between the </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/2468315112587965668'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/2468315112587965668'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html?showComment=1237498860000#c2468315112587965668' title=''/><author><name>Seth Abramson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08059849202129580100</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_0C6zfNUN2dI/RpI1VX9QIyI/AAAAAAAAACI/Ar7qLwIt4AQ/s400/seth.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5867234507258627754' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5867234507258627754' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-11614668"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 19, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1717792428022194197</id><published>2009-03-19T16:50:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-19T16:50:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>every time I erase a word    or six  in a piece (p...</title><summary type='text'>every time I erase a word    or six  in a &lt;BR/&gt;piece (poem) of mine&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I get  a smudge or a&lt;BR/&gt;hole in the paper. I&lt;BR/&gt;guess, just like our&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;amerikan (current) m&lt;BR/&gt;o&lt;BR/&gt;ney,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;our poetry, also, ai&lt;BR/&gt;-n&#39;t worth the paper&lt;BR/&gt;it&#39;s printed on?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/1717792428022194197'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/1717792428022194197'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html?showComment=1237495800000#c1717792428022194197' title=''/><author><name>Ed Baker</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11285310130024785775</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_SpwtdDR0utk/R3Owpv1OTyI/AAAAAAAAAAM/5uapZyaJmtY/S220/Ed++by+Evie+Baker'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5867234507258627754' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5867234507258627754' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-771816173"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 19, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7334959467077831297</id><published>2009-03-19T15:23:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-19T15:23:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Replying to Derek:I&#39;ve been thinking for some time...</title><summary type='text'>Replying to Derek:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I&#39;ve been thinking for some time that it isn&#39;t really &quot;The Sonnet&quot; that Berrigan reinvigorated, but the poetic sequence.  It bears comparison with Berryman&#39;s Dreamsongs, and Spicer&#39;s Holy Grail, much less so to Lowell&#39;s History (which is another sonnet sequence that doesn&#39;t do any of the cutting up Berrigan does). &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;What interests me in the Berrigan Sonnets </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/7334959467077831297'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/7334959467077831297'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html?showComment=1237490580000#c7334959467077831297' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5867234507258627754' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5867234507258627754' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 19, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-96516580662062463</id><published>2009-03-19T14:35:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-19T14:35:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I think the real question the reader has to ask hi...</title><summary type='text'>I think the real question the reader has to ask himself about any book of poetry, whether sonnets or erasure or flarf, is not &quot;is it new?&quot; but &quot;is it, in itself, worth reading?&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;Who cares if it&#39;s new if it&#39;s terrible? Who cares if the style is &quot;old hat&quot; if it&#39;s fantastic?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/96516580662062463'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/96516580662062463'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html?showComment=1237487700000#c96516580662062463' title=''/><author><name>jeannine</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16419593830749483323</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://www.webbish6.com/images/j9pic.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5867234507258627754' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5867234507258627754' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-679745349"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 19, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1769998893996597215</id><published>2009-03-19T14:02:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-19T14:02:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>According to the frame of Holmes&#39;s book, the colle...</title><summary type='text'>According to the frame of Holmes&#39;s book, the collection is less about Dickinson, in the end, than it is about the Iraq War.  And the way in which earlier poets&#39; work contains the seeds of prophecy, can talk to us of political situations in ways that help us think about them.  So does it not matter what gets FOUND through these received techniques?  If she&#39;d simply done a Ronald Johnson, I&#39;d agree</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/1769998893996597215'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/1769998893996597215'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html?showComment=1237485720000#c1769998893996597215' title=''/><author><name>Susan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11149093537815104761</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5867234507258627754' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5867234507258627754' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-916968898"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 19, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3989219744731741465</id><published>2009-03-19T13:24:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-19T13:24:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron, would you ask the same questions of value had...</title><summary type='text'>Ron, would you ask the same questions of value had Janet done an erased version of &lt;I&gt;Radi Os&lt;/I&gt;, taking the Johnson as a source text and enacting further erasure (or another kind of alteration, such as expansion) upon it?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/3989219744731741465'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/3989219744731741465'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html?showComment=1237483440000#c3989219744731741465' title=''/><author><name>Chris Vitiello</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05912644626118707168</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='28' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/hello/61/1516/640/selfs.0.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5867234507258627754' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5867234507258627754' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1601755112"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 19, 2009"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7321786100713674711</id><published>2009-03-19T12:56:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-19T12:56:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>First, I&#39;ll toot my own horn and point to my own e...</title><summary type='text'>First, I&#39;ll toot my own horn and point to my own erasures (of Berrigan&#39;s &lt;I&gt;The Sonnets&lt;/I&gt;, ironically) at the online journal Reconfigurations (http://reconfigurations.blogspot.com/2008/11/derek-henderson-from-thus.html), to use them to help make my point below.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Erasure seems to me to be yet another formal constraint, like the sonnet, sestina, pantoum, etc. And, as with any formal </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/7321786100713674711'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/5867234507258627754/comments/default/7321786100713674711'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html?showComment=1237481760000#c7321786100713674711' title=''/><author><name>Derek</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17172825009882827116</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_tBqYv27oPh8/SQXekTi67gI/AAAAAAAAAAM/m0DzoNVEZe0/S220/IMG_4199.JPG'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/03/janet-holmes-couple-of-books-that-have.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5867234507258627754' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/5867234507258627754' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" 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