<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post61411778562338606..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>57</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5498444831600451429</id><published>2007-10-19T17:44:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-19T17:44:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Friday, October 19, 2007My two cents, as always to...</title><summary type='text'>Friday, October 19, 2007&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;My two cents, as always too late, with much borrowed from my poet friend JB Bryan in Albuquerque. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I think if you boiled off the fluff and curmudgeonry out of Ron’s comments and deleted the Constitution (all of which, by the way, I enjoyed), you would be left with a simple question: Why not have more diverse perspectives on all these panels? The list of </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/5498444831600451429'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/5498444831600451429'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html?showComment=1192830240000#c5498444831600451429' title=''/><author><name>Bobby Byrd</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17990783036661848472</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-61411778562338606' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/61411778562338606' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1846872364"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 19, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1801327675671840647</id><published>2007-10-19T16:20:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-19T16:20:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis, I&#39;d agree with you that it is our responsi...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis, I&#39;d agree with you that it is our responsible to help the insane.  In the Bible Christ does help the insane and lepers and others unable to work, and in fact helps the blind to see, and casts out demons so that others will once more be able to work.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;That&#39;s the example you gave, and that is why I asked &quot;anonymous&quot; if he was insane.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But he said rather insanely that he </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/1801327675671840647'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/1801327675671840647'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html?showComment=1192825200000#c1801327675671840647' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-61411778562338606' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/61411778562338606' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 19, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3113032061335456482</id><published>2007-10-18T15:09:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-18T15:09:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Actually, Kirby, the mission of Xtian mercy dictat...</title><summary type='text'>Actually, Kirby, the mission of Xtian mercy dictates that we do what we can to assist those in need.  This neo-conservative notion of yours that the poor, the needy, the deranged and derailed and neglected should all be shunned or persecuted or driven into the mud-brick factories is VERY un-Xtian of you.  No matter how Puritanical you may think it is to espouse self-reliance and responsibility, </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/3113032061335456482'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/3113032061335456482'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html?showComment=1192734540000#c3113032061335456482' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-61411778562338606' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/61411778562338606' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 18, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6923373898435641237</id><published>2007-10-18T10:14:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-18T10:14:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The passage on panhandlers and birds (panhandlers ...</title><summary type='text'>The passage on panhandlers and birds (panhandlers are for the birds!), meanwhile birds in a sense are panhandling, too, in the poem.  But the problem in the poem has a deeper structure to do with the Two Kingdoms&#39; logic of St. Augustine -- the answer to this will take too long for this comment box, so I will have to try to respond to your comments on my blague late this afternoon.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/6923373898435641237'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/6923373898435641237'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html?showComment=1192716840000#c6923373898435641237' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-61411778562338606' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/61411778562338606' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 18, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3692840079912647985</id><published>2007-10-18T09:52:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-18T09:52:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I&#39;m not in the poetry business in any way except a...</title><summary type='text'>I&#39;m not in the poetry business in any way except as a consumer, (though when I lived in Seattle I was part of the group that coordinates the monthly Subtext reading series there for a few years). While I&#39;m not a writer, teacher, editor, or publisher of poetry, I read a lot of it, mostly what Ron describes as &quot;post-avant&quot;, though some of what he might consider to be SoQ and I&#39;ve read this blog </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/3692840079912647985'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/3692840079912647985'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html?showComment=1192715520000#c3692840079912647985' title=''/><author><name>Herb Levy</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/18361075879064632458</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-61411778562338606' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/61411778562338606' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1890310339"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 18, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8655368817300628769</id><published>2007-10-17T23:55:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-17T23:55:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>With regard to Brent&#39;s comment, I&#39;m happy to say t...</title><summary type='text'>With regard to Brent&#39;s comment, I&#39;m happy to say that the Madison Public Library system, by which I am employed at a &quot;living wage&quot; (still below an actual, material living wage, but far better than the minimum), tends to acquire books by Graham Foust, Charles Reznikoff, Rae Armantrout, Linh Dinh, and others--not too many genuinely small presses, but some of the stuff that you&#39;d otherwise only find</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/8655368817300628769'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/8655368817300628769'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html?showComment=1192679700000#c8655368817300628769' title=''/><author><name>Andy Gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04367834692026653431</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://www.princemyshkins.com/images/Detritus.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-61411778562338606' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/61411778562338606' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1668048852"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7962840606198001653</id><published>2007-10-17T23:47:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-17T23:47:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Kirby, &quot;there are also laws against panhandling be...</title><summary type='text'>Kirby, &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;there are also laws against panhandling because it ruins the legitimate businesses around them so that everyone is that much poorer&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;This is a big, smelly load of horse-digested baloney. You&#39;re parroting a line that has no facts behind it to support it. And outside the realm of facts, it should be obvious that no-one (and I think I really do mean &quot;no-one&quot;) ever failed </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/7962840606198001653'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/7962840606198001653'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html?showComment=1192679220000#c7962840606198001653' title=''/><author><name>Andy Gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04367834692026653431</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://www.princemyshkins.com/images/Detritus.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-61411778562338606' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/61411778562338606' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1668048852"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3910803041020344577</id><published>2007-10-17T21:57:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-17T21:57:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Creeley&#39;s word was &quot;Onward!&quot;</title><summary type='text'>Creeley&#39;s word was &quot;Onward!&quot;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/3910803041020344577'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/3910803041020344577'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html?showComment=1192672620000#c3910803041020344577' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/silliman/silliman2a.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-61411778562338606' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/61411778562338606' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6503863217426390349</id><published>2007-10-17T16:44:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-17T16:44:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>This comment is directed to Beth...Precise sales n...</title><summary type='text'>This comment is directed to Beth...&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Precise sales numbers are hard to come by, but your idea that these awards reflect readership is a myth I try to question whenever I run across it--which is a lot!  I work in the book industry (for SPD) and have a private obsession with such numbers, even though at the same time I would actually hate to live in a world where they determined all or even</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/6503863217426390349'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/6503863217426390349'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html?showComment=1192653840000#c6503863217426390349' title=''/><author><name>Brent Cunningham</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15120606584372602345</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='21' src='http://www.spdbooks.org/photo2.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-61411778562338606' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/61411778562338606' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1935263046"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-656203249415471847</id><published>2007-10-17T15:30:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-17T15:30:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;I&#39;m sure I&#39;ll vote for whoever the Democratic nom...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;I&#39;m sure I&#39;ll vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is in 2008. Any would be preferable to what we&#39;ve had for the past seven years. But of the three front-runners, I&#39;m closest to Edwards politically, and like Obama best -- he&#39;s the one it would be fun to spend an evening with. Hillary would be my choice right after Bill Richardson &amp; Joe Biden, who would come after Kucinich. I guess that makes </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/656203249415471847'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/656203249415471847'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html?showComment=1192649400000#c656203249415471847' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-61411778562338606' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/61411778562338606' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4870461286419437301</id><published>2007-10-17T15:21:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-17T15:21:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Perhaps the greatest problem in privileging tradit...</title><summary type='text'>Perhaps the greatest problem in privileging traditionally-structured poetic enterprises is that by holding up these forms--or attitudes towards experience, or critical positions--we tell the young that these are the models to aspire to.  I&#39;d rather we taught formally challenging works--especially to children--instead of the pap and tinker-tat that we do. I think traditional-minded readers and </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/4870461286419437301'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/4870461286419437301'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html?showComment=1192648860000#c4870461286419437301' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-61411778562338606' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/61411778562338606' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5548133685696435386</id><published>2007-10-17T14:27:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-17T14:27:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Andy, my poem in the booklet -- you must mean &quot;The...</title><summary type='text'>Andy, my poem in the booklet -- you must mean &quot;The Usual Life,&quot; with the lines,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Threading a way&lt;BR/&gt;past rich punks&lt;BR/&gt;&amp; sleeping bums and leftover&lt;BR/&gt;hippies all asking for&lt;BR/&gt;     25 cents.&lt;BR/&gt;(You&#39;re not supposed &lt;BR/&gt;to feed the birds around&lt;BR/&gt;the reservoir, it&#39;s important&lt;BR/&gt;not to encourage them --&lt;BR/&gt;maybe they&#39;ll go away.)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Is meant to bring up the problem, but </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/5548133685696435386'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/5548133685696435386'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html?showComment=1192645620000#c5548133685696435386' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-61411778562338606' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/61411778562338606' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3424892768475133907</id><published>2007-10-17T14:12:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-17T14:12:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;...there is no such thing as a poet. There are on...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;...there is no such thing as a poet. There are only kinds of poets.&quot;  Here, it seems to me, is the lynchpin of Silliman&#39;s critical method.  Each categorical name that thought permits us to affix refers us to multiple converging series of singularities, and at each singularity further series converge (and diverge), ad infinitum.  Names of kinds or schools, as well as names of individuals, </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/3424892768475133907'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/3424892768475133907'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html?showComment=1192644720000#c3424892768475133907' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-61411778562338606' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/61411778562338606' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1130137274"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8804270930533655423</id><published>2007-10-17T08:38:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-17T08:38:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Andy, reading your work and comments over the year...</title><summary type='text'>Andy, reading your work and comments over the years (but not knowing you) I have always found you to be extremely reasonable and forward-thinking. I find Ron Silliman to be that way as well.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Here is yet more context so you understand where I am coming from:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I came to a more or less mature sense of poetry after reading Olson&#39;s superb 1950 essay &quot;Projectivist Verse&quot; in 1987. I was</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/8804270930533655423'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/8804270930533655423'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html?showComment=1192624680000#c8804270930533655423' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11123159486525336328</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-61411778562338606' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/61411778562338606' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-661299550"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-9163741635269112351</id><published>2007-10-17T08:20:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-17T08:20:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Humorously enough, if one is really bothered by a ...</title><summary type='text'>Humorously enough, if one is really bothered by a piece of writing such as a blog, a newspaper, or a magazine, one always has the option of simply not reading it.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/9163741635269112351'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/9163741635269112351'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html?showComment=1192623600000#c9163741635269112351' title=''/><author><name>Max</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04015402378429631819</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-61411778562338606' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/61411778562338606' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1354347098"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3186074150632721166</id><published>2007-10-17T04:54:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-17T04:54:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Kirby, though you probably don&#39;t mean to be this w...</title><summary type='text'>Kirby, though you probably don&#39;t mean to be this way, your comments are unbelievably insulting and ignorant. I guess you have never, EVER heard of growing up working class, of being displaced from parents, of living in homeless shelters and any of the things that people who grow up or are poor deal with. Your implication that you have to be mentally ill to be homeless is outrageous and probably a</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/3186074150632721166'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/3186074150632721166'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html?showComment=1192611240000#c3186074150632721166' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11123159486525336328</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-61411778562338606' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/61411778562338606' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-661299550"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6934134108537966802</id><published>2007-10-17T03:13:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-17T03:13:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>On the other hand--Kirby, it&#39;s impossible to know ...</title><summary type='text'>On the other hand--&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Kirby, it&#39;s impossible to know how seriously to take you on anything written in the blog world, and I know that that&#39;s the way you like it. I don&#39;t much care whether you actually believe the paranoid story of the Maoist conspiracy or are exaggerating. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But your callousness towards the homeless also appears in one of the poems you had published in that little </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/6934134108537966802'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/6934134108537966802'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html?showComment=1192605180000#c6934134108537966802' title=''/><author><name>Andy Gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04367834692026653431</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://www.princemyshkins.com/images/Detritus.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-61411778562338606' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/61411778562338606' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1668048852"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3306463426696621684</id><published>2007-10-17T02:58:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-17T02:58:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Anon, OK, I have a much clearer idea of what you&#39;r...</title><summary type='text'>Anon, &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;OK, I have a much clearer idea of what you&#39;re getting at now. And, indeed, &quot;you just keep writing&quot; is pretty much what it comes down to. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;One more gripe, though:&lt;BR/&gt;the leap from &quot;Ron complains about prizes&quot; to &quot;Ron wants prizes&quot; is a leap. To take this off of Ron specifically, it&#39;s perfectly possible to not give a damn about whether, say, I ever get a prize (or </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/3306463426696621684'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/3306463426696621684'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html?showComment=1192604280000#c3306463426696621684' title=''/><author><name>Andy Gricevich</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04367834692026653431</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://www.princemyshkins.com/images/Detritus.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-61411778562338606' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/61411778562338606' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1668048852"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8267981653389767108</id><published>2007-10-17T02:26:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-17T02:26:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Just a foot-note to the above deluge of sqwabble--...</title><summary type='text'>Just a foot-note to the above deluge of sqwabble--&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I find that I quite like this list of American poet laureates, with the following exceptions:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Joseph Auslander&lt;BR/&gt;Louis Untermeyer--doilies and burlesques&lt;BR/&gt;Daniel Hoffman--never wrote a single poem in his life&lt;BR/&gt;Joseph Brodsky--not a clear phrase anywhere in his work&lt;BR/&gt;W.S. Merwin&lt;BR/&gt;Billy Collins&lt;BR/&gt;Ted Kooser&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/8267981653389767108'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/8267981653389767108'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html?showComment=1192602360000#c8267981653389767108' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-61411778562338606' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/61411778562338606' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 17, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8451289536997202173</id><published>2007-10-16T22:50:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-16T22:50:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;I thought that the homeless were all mentally ill...</title><summary type='text'>&quot;I thought that the homeless were all mentally ill&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;wow.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/8451289536997202173'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/8451289536997202173'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html?showComment=1192589400000#c8451289536997202173' title=''/><author><name>Iain</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15197666388360786350</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-61411778562338606' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/61411778562338606' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1107385782"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 16, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1946866664865460379</id><published>2007-10-16T20:31:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-16T20:31:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>You&#39;re very eloquent, Anonymous.  You are also ver...</title><summary type='text'>You&#39;re very eloquent, Anonymous.  You are also very well-read and well-organized. It&#39;s hard for me to imagine that someone like you was ever homeless.  I hope you are exaggerating.  I thought that the homeless were all mentally ill at least in this country. Were you mentally ill while you were homeless?  Or just out of luck?  I can&#39;t believe that there are homeless people who are well-organized </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/1946866664865460379'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/1946866664865460379'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html?showComment=1192581060000#c1946866664865460379' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-61411778562338606' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/61411778562338606' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 16, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8852066840546234591</id><published>2007-10-16T18:43:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-16T18:43:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>My nose isn&#39;t pressed against anything, Kirby. My ...</title><summary type='text'>My nose isn&#39;t pressed against anything, Kirby. My point was to foreground that all institutions are unfair, including the ones that R.S. celebrates. I am a pretty good example of a writer who has been met with rejection from a range of venues. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Fence Magazine published my work. But only after the editor let it sit there for 3 years and then a new poetry editor emailed to say, 4  years </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/8852066840546234591'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/8852066840546234591'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html?showComment=1192574580000#c8852066840546234591' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11123159486525336328</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-61411778562338606' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/61411778562338606' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-661299550"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 16, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6452080603009138706</id><published>2007-10-16T17:36:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-16T17:36:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Is it really SoQ we&#39;re seeing as the link, or sale...</title><summary type='text'>Is it really SoQ we&#39;re seeing as the link, or sales numbers?? There are awards in film that specifically address how much a movie has affected the &quot;industry,&quot; rather than how &quot;good&quot; or how &quot;fresh&quot; it is. I suspect the laureateships, and also the National Book Award finals, reflect an attention to readership.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Which in turn suggests that we need varied criteria for varied awards.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/6452080603009138706'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/6452080603009138706'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html?showComment=1192570560000#c6452080603009138706' title=''/><author><name>Beth Kanell</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08108922407270772577</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-61411778562338606' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/61411778562338606' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1536942640"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 16, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7723418948030071189</id><published>2007-10-16T16:20:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-16T16:20:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>If I may, and I might, essay another comment -- I ...</title><summary type='text'>If I may, and I might, essay another comment -- I would like to add that Virginia Woolf should have titled her address A Conspiracy of One&#39;s Own, since that&#39;s what her screed has amounted to, and yours.  But such conspiracies are often successful and we should all learn from them, those of us who are capable of plotting, and networking the institutions with members of our faith. Bernstein&#39;s poems</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/7723418948030071189'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/7723418948030071189'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html?showComment=1192566000000#c7723418948030071189' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-61411778562338606' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/61411778562338606' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 16, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3694995788467275696</id><published>2007-10-16T15:26:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-10-16T15:26:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron, the SoQ probably perceive themselves as much ...</title><summary type='text'>Ron, the SoQ probably perceive themselves as much less hegemonic than you do.  Would Wendell Berry and Thom Gunn really be able to do the Vulcan mind meld with James Tate and Sharon Olds?  I&#39;m dubiouser and dubiouser.    &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;There are no other Lutheran surrealists so I am unlikely to ever win a prize much less perform the mind meld that results in pomp and ceremony.  There used to be </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/3694995788467275696'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/61411778562338606/comments/default/3694995788467275696'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html?showComment=1192562760000#c3694995788467275696' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/10/word-about-naming.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-61411778562338606' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/61411778562338606' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="October 16, 2007"/></entry></feed>