<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post716396363061324097..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>23</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-351047602642073295</id><published>2007-12-16T14:51:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-16T14:51:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I mean no malice against any member of the Musteli...</title><summary type='text'>I mean no malice against any member of the Mustelidae family. :)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Back in the &#39;95 renegotiations MLB tried to get the union to agree to steroid testing but made sure they didn&#39;t try too hard. After all, the McGuire Sosa season a few years later, etc, made them a ton of  money.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;(Tom Goldstein at EFQ: The Baseball Review wrote an &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.efqreview.com/NewFiles/v22n2/</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/351047602642073295'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/351047602642073295'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html?showComment=1197834660000#c351047602642073295' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-716396363061324097' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/716396363061324097' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1915928048"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 16, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7713287516777129305</id><published>2007-12-16T12:11:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-16T12:11:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The union would have fought any attempt to test pl...</title><summary type='text'>The union would have fought any attempt to test players up until the past few years.  And the owners only press an issue with the union that involves their profit share.  Both sides were well aware of the problem for years.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/7713287516777129305'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/7713287516777129305'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html?showComment=1197825060000#c7713287516777129305' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-716396363061324097' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/716396363061324097' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 16, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2380607015855830711</id><published>2007-12-15T22:03:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-15T22:03:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I&#39;d also say that the advantages of steroids for h...</title><summary type='text'>I&#39;d also say that the advantages of steroids for hitters is fairly exaggerated.  The big change in baseball and football is weight training.  Most of these guys are naturals and just lifting weights sensibly would provide most of the advantages attributed to steroids.  Steroids add maybe 10%...they allow quicker recovery but... Barry Bonds, for example, could have done most of what he did (maybe </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/2380607015855830711'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/2380607015855830711'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html?showComment=1197774180000#c2380607015855830711' title=''/><author><name>&amp;</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12034120827255312947</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-716396363061324097' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/716396363061324097' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1306131592"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 15, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-9110644239921631444</id><published>2007-12-15T21:43:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-15T21:43:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Jim Schmitz.  You can bet that all the bodybuilder...</title><summary type='text'>Jim Schmitz.  You can bet that all the bodybuilders were using steroids.  &lt;BR/&gt;Arnold the Guv, of course, full of steroids.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/9110644239921631444'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/9110644239921631444'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html?showComment=1197772980000#c9110644239921631444' title=''/><author><name>&amp;</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12034120827255312947</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-716396363061324097' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/716396363061324097' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1306131592"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 15, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5070747805596272850</id><published>2007-12-15T21:05:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-15T21:05:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>It&#39;s odd that steroids didn&#39;t &quot;rock the sports wor...</title><summary type='text'>It&#39;s odd that steroids didn&#39;t &quot;rock the sports world&quot; when it became common knowledge that it was being used in pro-football, as it had been used for decades by the weight-lifting, body-building, and endurance sports before that.  Unless you realize that baseball is largely about &quot;statistics&quot; and &quot;home runs&quot;--two aspects of the game&#39;s measure that are keenly influenced by the enhancements that </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/5070747805596272850'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/5070747805596272850'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html?showComment=1197770700000#c5070747805596272850' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-716396363061324097' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/716396363061324097' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 15, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2617727944795180897</id><published>2007-12-15T20:54:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-15T20:54:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Donald Hall’s omission is the centerpiece of the S...</title><summary type='text'>Donald Hall’s omission is the centerpiece of the School of Quietude’s campaign to co-opt Ellis as the all-star pitcher of the ‘71 Pirates while misrepresenting his years with the Yankees, Rangers, and Mets, both before and after his retirement.  Who can forget his stint for the Yankees counseling Pascual Perez, the source of Pascual’s Wager: ‘If you can’t find the ballpark, then the game does not</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/2617727944795180897'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/2617727944795180897'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html?showComment=1197770040000#c2617727944795180897' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-716396363061324097' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/716396363061324097' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 15, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5684558113688137475</id><published>2007-12-15T19:45:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-15T19:45:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>what about that &quot;dope&quot; in California.. the 25 time...</title><summary type='text'>what about that &quot;dope&quot; in California.. the 25 time Mr Universe!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;tears are repaired via cortisone (steroid) injections  tear muscle-inject-get &#39;buffed&#39;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;tear up a knee in football, soccer, track  get an (illegal) injection..&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Then get back into the battle!  we are a war-making culture...  DIG IT!</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/5684558113688137475'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/5684558113688137475'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html?showComment=1197765900000#c5684558113688137475' title=''/><author><name>Ed</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11285310130024785775</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-716396363061324097' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/716396363061324097' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-771816173"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 15, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3498989068742322689</id><published>2007-12-15T19:39:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-15T19:39:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I worked out at the Sports Palace in SF back in th...</title><summary type='text'>I worked out at the Sports Palace in SF back in the days when half the Olympic team came from it, thanks to Jim Schmidt (sp?), including Mario Martinez who won silver in the &#39;84 Olympics in the heavyweight division. Never had (nor saw) any problems with rage there -- the body builders tho I suspect were using steroids. I hear Jim has a place now south of SF,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ron</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/3498989068742322689'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/3498989068742322689'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html?showComment=1197765540000#c3498989068742322689' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/silliman/silliman2a.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-716396363061324097' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/716396363061324097' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 15, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3815024210510822788</id><published>2007-12-15T19:12:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-15T19:12:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Babe Ruth died of throat cancer. It was Red Man To...</title><summary type='text'>Babe Ruth died of throat cancer. It was Red Man Tobacco not Red Rum that killed him.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In re weight training and testosterone.  Three hour workouts are absurd.  The rage might be the body&#39;s reaction to that sort of stress.  I&#39;ve trained with Olympic weightlifters for thirty years off and on.  Never encountered any rage -- instead a pleasant glow of well being occasioned by the instant of </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/3815024210510822788'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/3815024210510822788'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html?showComment=1197763920000#c3815024210510822788' title=''/><author><name>&amp;</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12034120827255312947</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-716396363061324097' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/716396363061324097' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1306131592"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 15, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-436076831777776286</id><published>2007-12-15T17:22:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-15T17:22:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>What exactly do we expect from our athletes when t...</title><summary type='text'>What exactly do we expect from our athletes when the stakes, the competition, the money and fame are so high.  In just about every sport many of the athletes are obviously coming out of less than perfect economic situations whether they are from the U.S. or abroad.  Consider this: on the chance you might be physically or mentally damaged somewhere in the future you&#39;re not going to take an illegal</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/436076831777776286'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/436076831777776286'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html?showComment=1197757320000#c436076831777776286' title=''/><author><name>Levari</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03797267895979862964</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='23' src='http://www.glennmcdonald.com/images/Marian%20McPartland%20%20-%20Jazz%20portrait,%20A%20Great%20Day%20in%20Harlem%20-%201958.JPG'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-716396363061324097' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/716396363061324097' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1958627702"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 15, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4473125847570267288</id><published>2007-12-15T17:05:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-15T17:05:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>You&#39;ll notice how many of the named dopers are ret...</title><summary type='text'>You&#39;ll notice how many of the named dopers are retired (Canseco, Justice, Young, Brown, Palmeiro) nearly retired (Clemens, Pettitte?), already known (Bonds, Giambi, Sheffield) or just hangers-on (a lot).  You don&#39;t see many of the CURRENT stars listed.  Save Miquel Tejada, Troy Glaus, etc.  My brother thinks Selig wanted it this way, to show that the problem is mostly old news, or those involved </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/4473125847570267288'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/4473125847570267288'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html?showComment=1197756300000#c4473125847570267288' title=''/><author><name>James</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/14066844450420389687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-716396363061324097' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/716396363061324097' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-564976163"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 15, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6344876966872756805</id><published>2007-12-15T15:04:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-15T15:04:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Brained Dodger catcher: John Roseboro.</title><summary type='text'>Brained Dodger catcher: John Roseboro.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/6344876966872756805'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/6344876966872756805'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html?showComment=1197749040000#c6344876966872756805' title=''/><author><name>John B-R</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01041221232768939991</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-716396363061324097' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/716396363061324097' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-574567698"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 15, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5168276743270601884</id><published>2007-12-15T14:49:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-15T14:49:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Oops. I just re-read Kirby&#39;s note. He re-membered ...</title><summary type='text'>Oops. I just re-read Kirby&#39;s note. He re-membered the Roseboro/Marichal wrongly. Koufax refused to throw at Marichal, so Roseboro started buzzing the throwbacks past Marichal&#39;s ear. Marichal cracked him over the head with his bat.&lt;BR/&gt;Ugh. &lt;BR/&gt;And yes, they did become friends.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/5168276743270601884'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/5168276743270601884'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html?showComment=1197748140000#c5168276743270601884' title=''/><author><name>Bobby Byrd</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17990783036661848472</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-716396363061324097' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/716396363061324097' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1846872364"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 15, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1582445621027489332</id><published>2007-12-15T14:45:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-15T14:45:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Hey, all Lutheran Surrealists should remember John...</title><summary type='text'>Hey, all Lutheran Surrealists should remember Johnny Roseboro. He took over for the great Roy Campanella. I watched him catch Koufax, Drysdale and Podres in the Coliseum when I was a kid visiting LA. There&#39;s a great writeup about the Marichal incident on Wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Roseboro. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Roseboro and Marichal became friends in later years, a lesson for all of us </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/1582445621027489332'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/1582445621027489332'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html?showComment=1197747900000#c1582445621027489332' title=''/><author><name>Bobby Byrd</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17990783036661848472</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-716396363061324097' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/716396363061324097' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1846872364"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 15, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2794527269041191204</id><published>2007-12-15T14:39:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-15T14:39:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Baseball&#39;s a fun game. Major league baseball is a ...</title><summary type='text'>Baseball&#39;s a fun game. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Major league baseball is a crooked card game.  I refer to the minimal revenue sharing among teams and the absence of salary caps.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The Florida Marlins this coming season will have a payroll that collectively will be less than many players individually earn on the Red Sox or Yankees.  The league is set up -- and permits -- a situation in which the rich </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/2794527269041191204'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/2794527269041191204'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html?showComment=1197747540000#c2794527269041191204' title=''/><author><name>Steven Fama</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13733977161680651117</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-716396363061324097' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/716396363061324097' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-862679579"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 15, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4769436626442344519</id><published>2007-12-15T14:07:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-15T14:07:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Jilly Dybka&#39;s poem re Dock Ellis (see Jilly&#39;s note...</title><summary type='text'>Jilly Dybka&#39;s &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.efqreview.com/NewFiles/v22n1/poetry-dock.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;poem &lt;/A&gt;re Dock Ellis (see Jilly&#39;s note above, defaming weasels)</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/4769436626442344519'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/4769436626442344519'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html?showComment=1197745620000#c4769436626442344519' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/silliman/silliman2a.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-716396363061324097' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/716396363061324097' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 15, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6096895983973347239</id><published>2007-12-15T13:57:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-15T13:57:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The final 2 paragraphs of Dock Ellis&#39; page in Wiki...</title><summary type='text'>The final 2 paragraphs of Dock Ellis&#39; page in Wikipedia:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ellis collaborated with future U.S. Poet Laureate Donald Hall on a book, Dock Ellis in the Country of Baseball, which was published in 1976. Although Hall knew of the LSD incident [Ellis threw a no-hitter under the influence thereof in 1970], it was not included in the first edition of the book; Ellis was playing for the Yankees </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/6096895983973347239'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/6096895983973347239'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html?showComment=1197745020000#c6096895983973347239' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/silliman/silliman2a.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-716396363061324097' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/716396363061324097' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 15, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4323661227137727597</id><published>2007-12-15T13:51:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-15T13:51:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>no mention of Dock Ellis?</title><summary type='text'>no mention of Dock Ellis?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/4323661227137727597'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/4323661227137727597'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html?showComment=1197744660000#c4323661227137727597' title=''/><author><name>Peter</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12003245243758973391</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://www.moominvoices.com/pictures/muumi_lehdisto.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-716396363061324097' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/716396363061324097' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-653182069"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 15, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6273998561759753988</id><published>2007-12-15T12:47:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-15T12:47:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Bud Selig is a spineless weasel.</title><summary type='text'>Bud Selig is a spineless weasel.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/6273998561759753988'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/6273998561759753988'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html?showComment=1197740820000#c6273998561759753988' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-716396363061324097' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/716396363061324097' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1915928048"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 15, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8234799779185091589</id><published>2007-12-15T12:22:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-15T12:22:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>It was fun to read this. I remember in about 1965 ...</title><summary type='text'>It was fun to read this. I remember in about 1965 when Juan Marichal brained a catcher in a game against the Los Angeles Dodgers. Marichal was always a volatile pitcher -- remember how his left leg would go vertical?  He threw at least one no-hitter but also liked to hit batters in the helmet on porpoise.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The LA catcher (whose name I can&#39;t remember -- Rosenbach??) threw off his catcher&#39;s</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/8234799779185091589'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/8234799779185091589'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html?showComment=1197739320000#c8234799779185091589' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-716396363061324097' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/716396363061324097' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 15, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5210137279859568483</id><published>2007-12-15T09:31:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-15T09:31:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ron, this has got to be one of your best posts, an...</title><summary type='text'>Ron, this has got to be one of your best posts, and I stopped caring about baseball, except for the drama of some world series, when the Dodgers left Brooklyn. But I would add that my experience with just plain heavy free weight exercise routines—which I did for a few years in L. A. on the bad advice of a movie actor who assured me it would be the key to my stardom but obviously wasn&#39;t—is that </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/5210137279859568483'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/5210137279859568483'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html?showComment=1197729060000#c5210137279859568483' title=''/><author><name>Lally</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05310472614196384595</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_1UZ-EklSnDQ/R2NKsxZHm0I/AAAAAAAAADk/1ac3JBtd4SM/S220/Lally+smaller.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-716396363061324097' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/716396363061324097' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-778757446"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 15, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6633949764454132613</id><published>2007-12-15T08:48:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-15T08:48:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Clemens throwing the bat at Piazza would be anothe...</title><summary type='text'>Clemens throwing the bat at Piazza would be another example of possible roid rage that I immediately think of.  I think according to the report Clemens was using heavily that year.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/6633949764454132613'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/6633949764454132613'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html?showComment=1197726480000#c6633949764454132613' title=''/><author><name>Jed</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00332210705947479108</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-716396363061324097' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/716396363061324097' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-178340587"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 15, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4825331212699782979</id><published>2007-12-15T04:31:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-15T04:31:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Good post. I particularly agree with your analysis...</title><summary type='text'>Good post. I particularly agree with your analysis of sportswriters, who now strike me as more like Hollywood tabloid writers than genuine reporters -- and in some cases (cf. Alex Rodriguez, Tony Parker) the coverage overlaps. The self-righteousness, the coddling hagiography of some players coupled with the obsession with bodies and scandals and insider information, the half-brained analysis. </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/4825331212699782979'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/716396363061324097/comments/default/4825331212699782979'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html?showComment=1197711060000#c4825331212699782979' title=''/><author><name>Tim</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13026955797817424956</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://members.chello.nl/j.seegers1/dada_files/images/duch_plaques.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/12/muscled-up-ken-caminiti-hitchcock.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-716396363061324097' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/716396363061324097' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-353852049"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="December 15, 2007"/></entry></feed>