<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post7245538352521113451..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>49</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3187466361696421565</id><published>2007-08-17T20:22:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-08-17T20:22:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>John&#39;s post is proof of the axiom.  Difficulty is ...</title><summary type='text'>John&#39;s post is proof of the axiom.  Difficulty is not necessarily proof of high-level thought or rewarding reading.  You have to struggle to decipher what he&#39;s saying and then it turns out he&#39;s just saying.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/3187466361696421565'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/3187466361696421565'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html?showComment=1187396520000#c3187466361696421565' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7245538352521113451' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7245538352521113451' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 17, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5361921513044960513</id><published>2007-08-16T18:45:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-08-16T18:45:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>eye 4 won1/2 know D-sire2 B leck-suredab-outre: al...</title><summary type='text'>eye 4 won&lt;BR/&gt;1/2 know D-sire&lt;BR/&gt;2 B leck-&lt;BR/&gt;sured&lt;BR/&gt;ab-&lt;BR/&gt;out&lt;BR/&gt;re: all-ity&lt;BR/&gt;by won who &lt;BR/&gt;B-leaves&lt;BR/&gt;in an I 4 N eye&lt;BR/&gt;&amp; in &lt;BR/&gt;the&lt;BR/&gt;D-tour-ant power&lt;BR/&gt;of&lt;BR/&gt;X-sick-you-shun&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;juss say-N</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/5361921513044960513'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/5361921513044960513'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html?showComment=1187304300000#c5361921513044960513' title=''/><author><name>John</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07000424514491809383</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7245538352521113451' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7245538352521113451' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1712146185"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 16, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6370865962713395332</id><published>2007-08-16T17:06:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-08-16T17:06:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>maybe collins is a good foolmaybe his art is the a...</title><summary type='text'>maybe collins is a good fool&lt;BR/&gt;maybe his art is the art of clever&lt;BR/&gt;and quiet deception&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;i am willing to grant&lt;BR/&gt;that in a world where language&lt;BR/&gt;is more and more stressed to crumbling&lt;BR/&gt;perhaps a very clear line of thought&lt;BR/&gt;cleanly and evenly stated&lt;BR/&gt;resulting in epiphany or wisdom&lt;BR/&gt;or a chuckle&lt;BR/&gt;is worth the effort&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;i tried to read one book&lt;BR/&gt;it may have </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/6370865962713395332'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/6370865962713395332'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html?showComment=1187298360000#c6370865962713395332' title=''/><author><name>john hanson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/10043530995274885830</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7245538352521113451' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7245538352521113451' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1850634495"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 16, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-512030896267223423</id><published>2007-08-16T12:56:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-08-16T12:56:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>If we looked at any specific Collins poem I could ...</title><summary type='text'>If we looked at any specific Collins poem I could show you the depths.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;No one of course has Shakespeare&#39;s depths.  He&#39;s like a star in a galaxy of his own.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But Collins is not as dim as he&#39;s made out to be here.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Clarity by itself is not enough.  But neither is difficulty.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The terms don&#39;t tell us very much.  There are very complex writers who don&#39;t finally say </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/512030896267223423'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/512030896267223423'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html?showComment=1187283360000#c512030896267223423' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7245538352521113451' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7245538352521113451' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 16, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8067925916033140741</id><published>2007-08-15T23:35:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-08-15T23:35:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Packaging.If Collins deliberately clothes his grea...</title><summary type='text'>Packaging.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;If Collins deliberately clothes his great complexity and profound depth in deceptively simple-minded formality, that seems like a perfect illustration of the point.  The fact is:  Life isn&#39;t simple, and literature which aspires to describe it or address that complexity cannot really be simple.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I suspect that most people who go to see Shakespeare comprehend very </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/8067925916033140741'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/8067925916033140741'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html?showComment=1187235300000#c8067925916033140741' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7245538352521113451' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7245538352521113451' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 15, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6739905928127782984</id><published>2007-08-15T18:21:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-08-15T18:21:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The troubadours were mainly upper-class writing wa...</title><summary type='text'>The troubadours were mainly upper-class writing was a past-time.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But accessibility and difficulty are not necessarily mutually exclusive.  Shakespeare was both accessible and difficult, as is Billy Collins.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Even a writer seemingly as simple as Dr. Seuss has hidden depths that might not be available to the 1st graders reading him.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;All the various kinds of crowbar that </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/6739905928127782984'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/6739905928127782984'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html?showComment=1187216460000#c6739905928127782984' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7245538352521113451' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7245538352521113451' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 15, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8069311009252231034</id><published>2007-08-15T14:56:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-08-15T14:56:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Brian:  I think you&#39;re misconceiving both Ron&#39;s or...</title><summary type='text'>Brian:  I think you&#39;re misconceiving both Ron&#39;s original post, and the thrust of what you take to have been Carroll&#39;s article.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Carroll set out to defend Collins as an honest craftsman who was speaking straight up without frills or pretentions to people who couldn&#39;t, or wouldn&#39;t, be likely to appreciate or care about poetry that wasn&#39;t &quot;simple&quot; and &quot;easy&quot; to read.  He presumed a </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/8069311009252231034'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/8069311009252231034'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html?showComment=1187204160000#c8069311009252231034' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7245538352521113451' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7245538352521113451' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 15, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-225805901584110730</id><published>2007-08-15T14:37:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-08-15T14:37:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Lou Reed is popular music, and Tuvan throat-singin...</title><summary type='text'>Lou Reed is popular music, and Tuvan throat-singing (how else are you going to sing -- with your anus?) is also popular -- depends on your geography.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;For me, Billy Collins is the skeleton key to the true soul of America.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Language poetry on the other hand takes itself too seriously and is therefore rather British in inspiration.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/225805901584110730'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/225805901584110730'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html?showComment=1187203020000#c225805901584110730' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7245538352521113451' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7245538352521113451' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 15, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4614656557647830249</id><published>2007-08-15T00:07:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-08-15T00:07:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Can I assume that we all know that the common pers...</title><summary type='text'>Can I assume that we all know that the common person doesn&#39;t exist?  That for every idiot there is a genious? For every low-average intelligence there is a high-average intelligence?  If you write for dummies you will lose your high-average audience.  If you write for smarties, you will lose your low-average audience.  If you write for any particular group, ball-players, musicians, poets; you </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/4614656557647830249'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/4614656557647830249'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html?showComment=1187150820000#c4614656557647830249' title=''/><author><name>Brian Dean Bollman</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11422156437623034391</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='21' src='http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/5025/aa010sc8.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7245538352521113451' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7245538352521113451' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1511157509"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 15, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8053441343871340147</id><published>2007-08-14T21:45:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-08-14T21:45:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Most serious artists--whether they admit it or not...</title><summary type='text'>Most serious artists--whether they admit it or not--&quot;imagine&quot; an audience for each work they make.  Sometimes that may be only a single person, sometimes an imaginary one.  I sometimes think W.S. Merwin writes for statues, or trees--not a bad idea, come to think of it--but I hate his works, they&#39;re not addressed to humans.  He writes as if he were a ghost, or a slightly delusional priest.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/8053441343871340147'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/8053441343871340147'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html?showComment=1187142300000#c8053441343871340147' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7245538352521113451' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7245538352521113451' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-715319260101118881</id><published>2007-08-14T18:32:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-08-14T18:32:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis, you don’t like Ginsberg’s Wichita Vortex S...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis, you don’t like Ginsberg’s Wichita Vortex Sutra?  Or how bout O’Hara’s Should We Legalize Abortion? which could be termed an anti-political political poem, though undeniably anarchic in structure. Homer, Dante, Shakespeare? This is I suppose a matter of taste.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Your last post was quite incisive, and there are, of course, plenty of people who create popular art out of contempt for </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/715319260101118881'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/715319260101118881'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html?showComment=1187130720000#c715319260101118881' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7245538352521113451' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7245538352521113451' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4002898527621960619</id><published>2007-08-14T18:03:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-08-14T18:03:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Curtis,Your accusation that popular artists condes...</title><summary type='text'>Curtis,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Your accusation that popular artists condescend calculatingly to their audience is . . . based on what?  My impression is that popular artists tend to love popular art; few of them secretly hanker to be symphonists any more.  (Although, it&#39;s true, Justin Timberlake rhetorically asked his beloved what she would do if he were to write her a symphony, in his recent hit &quot;My Love.&quot;) &lt;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/4002898527621960619'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/4002898527621960619'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html?showComment=1187128980000#c4002898527621960619' title=''/><author><name>John</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07000424514491809383</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7245538352521113451' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7245538352521113451' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1712146185"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4013180258395158265</id><published>2007-08-14T18:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-08-14T18:00:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I believe you are quite right Kirb.</title><summary type='text'>I believe you are quite right Kirb.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/4013180258395158265'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/4013180258395158265'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html?showComment=1187128800000#c4013180258395158265' title=''/><author><name>Lady Jane</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11023871171456340729</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://farm1.static.flickr.com/27/53239649_b994c99dfe_t.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7245538352521113451' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7245538352521113451' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-2000124934"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2066722765389439780</id><published>2007-08-14T15:25:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-08-14T15:25:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Only the first layer of Collins&#39; poems are accessi...</title><summary type='text'>Only the first layer of Collins&#39; poems are accessible.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Underneath that are other layers -- some quite difficult.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;His accessibility is actually only true on a superficial level.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But that would be true with Shakespeare as well.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;There are levels in Shakespeare that no one has ever accessed.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;No one actually reads Billy Collins.  Among other things, he </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/2066722765389439780'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/2066722765389439780'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html?showComment=1187119500000#c2066722765389439780' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7245538352521113451' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7245538352521113451' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8228938836634831866</id><published>2007-08-14T11:57:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-08-14T11:57:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>First off boys and girls...a poet needs to be inte...</title><summary type='text'>First off boys and girls...a poet needs to be interesting to start with...and that interesting can be quite a few things from the very uninteresting to the dense neurosis that is &quot;cured&quot; by years and years of doing nothing BUT writing poems, seeking poems and discussing poems.  It can be a poet who isn&#39;t really gifted in the mechanics department but is gifted in the circumstances one.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/8228938836634831866'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/8228938836634831866'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html?showComment=1187107020000#c8228938836634831866' title=''/><author><name>Lady Jane</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11023871171456340729</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://farm1.static.flickr.com/27/53239649_b994c99dfe_t.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7245538352521113451' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7245538352521113451' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-2000124934"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3375109287692589949</id><published>2007-08-14T11:46:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-08-14T11:46:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>In area of topic of some currency in the on-line p...</title><summary type='text'>In area of topic of some currency in the on-line post-avant world:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;this at John Latta&#39;s blog on 8/14 re: censorship at Poetics, with some relevant links:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;http://isola-di-rifiuti.blogspot.com/&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Well, I hope this note isn&#39;t censored!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;all the best,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Kent</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/3375109287692589949'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/3375109287692589949'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html?showComment=1187106360000#c3375109287692589949' title=''/><author><name>Kent Johnson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15233688630151467658</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7245538352521113451' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7245538352521113451' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-901447242"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6906275126203311397</id><published>2007-08-14T11:10:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-08-14T11:10:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>For those wishing to understand the phenomenon of ...</title><summary type='text'>For those wishing to understand the phenomenon of popular art, there is a wealth of theoretical literature on the subject.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The facts are these:  99% of what artists and writers produce never sees the light of day.  99% of what does, is seen and appreciated by only a handful of people.  Certain media command extraordinary audiences, such as movies, television, and radio.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/6906275126203311397'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/6906275126203311397'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html?showComment=1187104200000#c6906275126203311397' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7245538352521113451' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7245538352521113451' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4624244981718481971</id><published>2007-08-14T10:23:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-08-14T10:23:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I&#39;ll go with someone like Lester Bowie over E Cart...</title><summary type='text'>I&#39;ll go with someone like Lester Bowie over E Carter, and to some degree the Art Ensemble got further out their than just about any other jazz outfit, but meanwhile some of the guys from the group, or at least one, that I remember, used to do session work for Motown as well, go figure.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Lehman chose Collins AND Hejinian.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Coltrane plaid Ascension AND My Favorite Things.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/4624244981718481971'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/4624244981718481971'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html?showComment=1187101380000#c4624244981718481971' title=''/><author><name>John Schertzer</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04694233349915868913</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7245538352521113451' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7245538352521113451' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1383069011"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4996303028348747113</id><published>2007-08-14T06:34:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-08-14T06:34:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>One pleasure particular to the novel is the pleasu...</title><summary type='text'>One pleasure particular to the novel is the pleasure of turning the page to see what happens next. Movies are very good at making you itch for what&#39;s going to happen next, and poetry books are very good for providing you with the pleasure of the page turn, but novels are the perfect way of integrating these two pleasures.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Re accessibility, it always strikes me as a more interesting </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/4996303028348747113'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/4996303028348747113'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html?showComment=1187087640000#c4996303028348747113' title=''/><author><name>Samuel Vriezen</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16229066450439148225</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7245538352521113451' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7245538352521113451' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1125742735"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4253520846616922096</id><published>2007-08-14T03:22:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-08-14T03:22:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Hi Curtis--The McCabe Reader is on my &quot;weird book&quot;...</title><summary type='text'>Hi Curtis--The McCabe Reader is on my &quot;weird book&quot; shelf, I treasure it, he&#39;s like Liebling with a headcold at closing time. His later columns are really disjointed, kind of experimental. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;As for political poetry, it&#39;s mostly awful,but who can resist resisting? &lt;BR/&gt;In the past(pre-70&#39;s?)  &quot;experimental&quot; writing seemed more socially subversive, though not always overtly political.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/4253520846616922096'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/4253520846616922096'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html?showComment=1187076120000#c4253520846616922096' title=''/><author><name>poetowen</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11278368064478791137</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7245538352521113451' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7245538352521113451' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-805817705"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-9093147690269598633</id><published>2007-08-14T02:08:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-08-14T02:08:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>For me there&#39;s only one argument worth having when...</title><summary type='text'>For me there&#39;s only one argument worth having when it comes to poetry or art:  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;Did the author(s) want to do it, or did he need to do it?&quot;  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The gulf between these two ideas, want vs. need, no matter what form or medium the work takes, is, to me, the essence of work that endures over time and work that does not.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;If somebody needs to express himself in a way that is </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/9093147690269598633'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/9093147690269598633'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html?showComment=1187071680000#c9093147690269598633' title=''/><author><name>Levari</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/03797267895979862964</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='23' src='http://www.glennmcdonald.com/images/Marian%20McPartland%20%20-%20Jazz%20portrait,%20A%20Great%20Day%20in%20Harlem%20-%201958.JPG'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7245538352521113451' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7245538352521113451' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1958627702"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3965843094927276139</id><published>2007-08-14T01:29:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-08-14T01:29:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>It sure is painful watching you superior souls-- o...</title><summary type='text'>It sure is painful watching you superior souls-- oh so sensitive and intellectual and better than everyone else-- stretch this indecently to pat yourselves on the back!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Silliman&#39;s spin on poets and poetry that aren&#39;t his thing, a land where necrophilia and weepiness are everywhere and memory and sadness are nowhere, and where daring to use words in ways that they are recognizable and </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/3965843094927276139'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/3965843094927276139'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html?showComment=1187069340000#c3965843094927276139' title=''/><author><name>Chris</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05101720791858458154</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7245538352521113451' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7245538352521113451' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1424414275"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 14, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6693651921460559953</id><published>2007-08-13T23:27:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-08-13T23:27:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>compared to those who win boxing matches against k...</title><summary type='text'>compared to those who win boxing matches against kangaroos?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/6693651921460559953'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/6693651921460559953'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html?showComment=1187062020000#c6693651921460559953' title=''/><author><name>J Crockett</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15430253706561827669</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='20' height='32' src='http://listenlight.net/media/jwc.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7245538352521113451' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7245538352521113451' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1299334260"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 13, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7929911518106501182</id><published>2007-08-13T21:48:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-08-13T21:48:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Forgive my un-academic comments, but I find all po...</title><summary type='text'>Forgive my un-academic comments, but I find all points in this argument both fascinating and irritating.  May I ask where all the Orwellian energy is coming from?  Must we argue ideology in terms of domination and hierarchy? Billy Collins does his Billy Collins thing.  I rather enjoy it, but though it entices me to find the ordinary extraordinary, which I like, I recognize that I like him because</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/7929911518106501182'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/7929911518106501182'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html?showComment=1187056080000#c7929911518106501182' title=''/><author><name>Carmen (La Maestra)</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/02990921361463177260</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7245538352521113451' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7245538352521113451' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1125312725"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 13, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3472819191457152904</id><published>2007-08-13T21:19:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-08-13T21:19:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Hey poetowen:  I remember those McCabe columns, to...</title><summary type='text'>Hey poetowen:  I remember those McCabe columns, too!  He was great!  I think he and Herb Caen were double agents, slumming along with the in crowd but secretly pining for liberation.  Or, poised uncomfortably between worlds.  Alcohol furnished both of them with an envelope of semi-consciousness that enabled them to get through the workaday.  Writing another knock-down drag out column is a little </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/3472819191457152904'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7245538352521113451/comments/default/3472819191457152904'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html?showComment=1187054340000#c3472819191457152904' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/08/jon-carroll-played-accessibility-card.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7245538352521113451' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7245538352521113451' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="August 13, 2007"/></entry></feed>