<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post7417279167938938133..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7417279167938938133/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/03/first-screening-bp-nichols-computer.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>11</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4961908500398567335</id><published>2007-03-22T18:50:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-03-22T18:50:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Lowell&#39;s influence lives on, though, in that he an...</title><summary type='text'>Lowell&#39;s influence lives on, though, in that he and his followers opened the door to where we are know, and had a big influence on direction. The &quot;confessional lyric&quot; dominates a great deal of contemporary poetry, and most of it is crap. (Sturgeon&#39;s Law remains unrefuted as the best overall measure of artistic quality.) The worst excesses of the confessional lyric, and its apparent dominance in </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7417279167938938133/comments/default/4961908500398567335'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7417279167938938133/comments/default/4961908500398567335'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/03/first-screening-bp-nichols-computer.html?showComment=1174603800000#c4961908500398567335' title=''/><author><name>Art Durkee</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07463180236975988432</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='20' height='32' src='http://www.arthurdurkee.net/images/ADSTICK1.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/03/first-screening-bp-nichols-computer.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7417279167938938133' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7417279167938938133' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1315265054"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 22, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3432585805177575596</id><published>2007-03-19T09:18:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-03-19T09:18:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I think it&#39;s a bit early to relegate Lowell to obs...</title><summary type='text'>I think it&#39;s a bit early to relegate Lowell to obscurity.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Has Ron reread Lord Weary, or Life Studies, lately?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Hmmm.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Lowell was Bob Grenier&#39;s mentor at Harvard.  Also  Richard Tillinghast&#39;s.  Interesting line of descent.  In Heaven, I&#39;m not convinced Lowell would necessarily prefer Tillinghast in retrospect.  People can surprise you.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Lowell was too complex </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7417279167938938133/comments/default/3432585805177575596'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7417279167938938133/comments/default/3432585805177575596'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/03/first-screening-bp-nichols-computer.html?showComment=1174310280000#c3432585805177575596' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/03/first-screening-bp-nichols-computer.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7417279167938938133' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7417279167938938133' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 19, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4736271366985077290</id><published>2007-03-19T09:11:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-03-19T09:11:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Burns&#39;s decision to emphasize the &quot;classic&quot; histor...</title><summary type='text'>Burns&#39;s decision to emphasize the &quot;classic&quot; history of jazz was a deliberate attempt to condescend to his target audience.  &quot;Real jazz&quot; may be far too obscure and difficult for the general American audience.  As we know from the true history, white America preferred its own sanitized version of jazz, right up through Glenn Miller and Stan Kenton and Dave Brubeck.  Marsalis was brought in (as a </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7417279167938938133/comments/default/4736271366985077290'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7417279167938938133/comments/default/4736271366985077290'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/03/first-screening-bp-nichols-computer.html?showComment=1174309860000#c4736271366985077290' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01813159652010352331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/03/first-screening-bp-nichols-computer.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7417279167938938133' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7417279167938938133' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1749964855"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 19, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1260934557917316174</id><published>2007-03-19T01:29:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-03-19T01:29:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Oh boy, K.O., victimocracy, victimology, after my ...</title><summary type='text'>Oh boy, K.O., victimocracy, victimology, after my own heart, I give you that coinage, for lack of knowledge, for it is from you I heard it first.  You reading my mail?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And x x x&#39;s all aside, it bespeaks volumes about how essential it is for poets to play one&#39;s cards close to the vest, as Bob Dylan has attempted to do, for anything you say, no matter how generous or heartfelt, will come </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7417279167938938133/comments/default/1260934557917316174'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7417279167938938133/comments/default/1260934557917316174'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/03/first-screening-bp-nichols-computer.html?showComment=1174282140000#c1260934557917316174' title=''/><author><name>Zeke Hunkaburning</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05144662896092856507</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/03/first-screening-bp-nichols-computer.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7417279167938938133' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7417279167938938133' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-820081779"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 19, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4780517258782517270</id><published>2007-03-18T18:01:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-03-18T18:01:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Dear Prince Myshkin2,If Spring &amp; All had been in p...</title><summary type='text'>Dear Prince Myshkin2,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;If &lt;B&gt;Spring &amp; All&lt;/B&gt; had been in print any time between 1940 and 1970, I think your point would be well taken. But such absences (like that of almost all of the Objectivists until the 1960s) have had a serious impact on the development of poetry. Do you think Ginsberg could have written &lt;I&gt;Howl&lt;/I&gt; if there had been a continuous tradition of such work in print? </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7417279167938938133/comments/default/4780517258782517270'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7417279167938938133/comments/default/4780517258782517270'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/03/first-screening-bp-nichols-computer.html?showComment=1174255260000#c4780517258782517270' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/silliman/silliman2a.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/03/first-screening-bp-nichols-computer.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7417279167938938133' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7417279167938938133' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 18, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8210147498603594953</id><published>2007-03-18T17:54:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-03-18T17:54:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I&#39;m told that Miles Davis used to call Marsalis &quot;t...</title><summary type='text'>I&#39;m told that Miles Davis used to call Marsalis &quot;the police.&quot; That sounds exactly correct. Everything that was wrong &amp; retro about the Ken Burns series, for example, could be traced back to him.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7417279167938938133/comments/default/8210147498603594953'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7417279167938938133/comments/default/8210147498603594953'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/03/first-screening-bp-nichols-computer.html?showComment=1174254840000#c8210147498603594953' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/silliman/silliman2a.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/03/first-screening-bp-nichols-computer.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7417279167938938133' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7417279167938938133' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 18, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4556205702128366019</id><published>2007-03-18T12:47:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-03-18T12:47:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>As one who also does not take Robert Lowell seriou...</title><summary type='text'>As one who also does not take Robert Lowell seriously anymore, this review of his letters makes me wonder if perhaps I/we should not so summarily discard him.  This quote from L&#39;s letter about Creeley (&amp; Levertov) pricks the surface of some unexplored qualms I didn&#39;t realize I had during this current period of Creeley&#39;s apotheosis:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;If I were writing [to] them, I could truthfully say a </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7417279167938938133/comments/default/4556205702128366019'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7417279167938938133/comments/default/4556205702128366019'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/03/first-screening-bp-nichols-computer.html?showComment=1174236420000#c4556205702128366019' title=''/><author><name>myshkin2</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12334340208396536106</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/03/first-screening-bp-nichols-computer.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7417279167938938133' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7417279167938938133' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-16179833"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 18, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-127931969426477608</id><published>2007-03-18T11:26:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-03-18T11:26:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I couldn&#39;t agree more about the assessment of Wynt...</title><summary type='text'>I couldn&#39;t agree more about the assessment of Wynton Marsalis made in the linked article. It&#39;s more or less what I&#39;ve been saying, as a composer and practicing jazz musician, for going on 20 years.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Although trying to shoehorn the argument into saying that jazz has its own SoQ is odd, and probably doesn&#39;t work. The words I would use for Marsalis&#39; desire to reify and museumize 1920s jazz </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7417279167938938133/comments/default/127931969426477608'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7417279167938938133/comments/default/127931969426477608'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/03/first-screening-bp-nichols-computer.html?showComment=1174231560000#c127931969426477608' title=''/><author><name>Art Durkee</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07463180236975988432</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='20' height='32' src='http://www.arthurdurkee.net/images/ADSTICK1.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/03/first-screening-bp-nichols-computer.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7417279167938938133' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7417279167938938133' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1315265054"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 18, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3445815385845309027</id><published>2007-03-17T23:39:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-03-17T23:39:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>who judges without consultingthe substance of the ...</title><summary type='text'>who judges without consulting&lt;BR/&gt;the substance of the argument&lt;BR/&gt;offered here in full force&lt;BR/&gt;for anyone to peruse&lt;BR/&gt;read think about god forbid&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;some of us die in taxis&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;yo</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7417279167938938133/comments/default/3445815385845309027'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7417279167938938133/comments/default/3445815385845309027'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/03/first-screening-bp-nichols-computer.html?showComment=1174189140000#c3445815385845309027' title=''/><author><name>john hanson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09681354460957743187</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/03/first-screening-bp-nichols-computer.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7417279167938938133' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7417279167938938133' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1428247785"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 17, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7170574214224814383</id><published>2007-03-17T14:15:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-03-17T14:15:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Wow, how interesting to learn that &quot;nobody takes R...</title><summary type='text'>Wow, how interesting to learn that &quot;nobody takes Robert Lowell seriously any more.&quot; Really? Nobody? And that&#39;s that, is it?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I&#39;ve been reading this blog for far too long, &amp; it&#39;s time I just accepted what I didn&#39;t want to be true: Ron Silliman is simply not a very intelligent man. He comes close, too often, to being stupid. I can&#39;t imagine seeing poetry with his inane blinders on. Robert </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7417279167938938133/comments/default/7170574214224814383'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7417279167938938133/comments/default/7170574214224814383'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/03/first-screening-bp-nichols-computer.html?showComment=1174155300000#c7170574214224814383' title=''/><author><name>xxx xxxxxx</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16906246427435976604</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/03/first-screening-bp-nichols-computer.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7417279167938938133' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7417279167938938133' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-220580364"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 17, 2007"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-929500567266188477</id><published>2007-03-17T11:13:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-03-17T11:13:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Two up from the bottom you have the feminism artic...</title><summary type='text'>Two up from the bottom you have the feminism article by Ana Finel Hogeman (sp?) -- that ends with the assertion that works by Ana Mendieta or Judy Chicago will be about the work on its &quot;merits.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;What&#39;s funny in this is the war between the meritocracy and the victimocracy -- was precisely over that issue.  Ultimately it&#39;s a shame to make it only as a victim.  One wants to be honored on </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7417279167938938133/comments/default/929500567266188477'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/7417279167938938133/comments/default/929500567266188477'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/03/first-screening-bp-nichols-computer.html?showComment=1174144380000#c929500567266188477' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/03/first-screening-bp-nichols-computer.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7417279167938938133' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/7417279167938938133' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="March 17, 2007"/></entry></feed>