<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post852509421050866290..comments</id><updated>2011-07-13T16:13:18.645-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Silliman&#39;s Blog: </title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>24</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1395983475460822868</id><published>2010-02-23T10:35:09.197-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-23T10:35:09.197-05:00</updated><title type='text'>and Robin Blaser, 1925</title><summary type='text'>and Robin Blaser, 1925</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/1395983475460822868'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/1395983475460822868'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html?showComment=1266939309197#c1395983475460822868' title=''/><author><name>lynne</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/07097805836658875276</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-852509421050866290' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/852509421050866290' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-626522928"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="February 23, 2010"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6464754675628893374</id><published>2010-02-19T12:21:07.809-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-19T12:21:07.809-05:00</updated><title type='text'>the world would be greatly improved, without poesy...</title><summary type='text'>the world would be greatly improved, without poesy of beats, at least as part of that dubious set aka the literary canon. or even most modernist garbagio. Say, end it like with Steven Crane. Or maybe ST Coleridge.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;o heilige Buch brennen</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/6464754675628893374'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/6464754675628893374'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html?showComment=1266600067809#c6464754675628893374' title=''/><author><name>J</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11567400697675996283</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_95DiS_tm2Gs/SwIGrtWoQtI/AAAAAAAAA38/-1CpkpbL_6s/S220/Spade.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-852509421050866290' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/852509421050866290' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1512031455"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="February 19, 2010"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8415252044012045440</id><published>2010-02-19T12:00:27.656-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-19T12:00:27.656-05:00</updated><title type='text'>hey  wanna dig deeper into&#xa;Creeley&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;inf...</title><summary type='text'>hey  wanna dig deeper into&lt;br /&gt;Creeley&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;influences&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;you might get a-hold on&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Under Discussion&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Robert Creeley&amp;#39;s Lif and Work  &lt;br /&gt;edited by John Wilson&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;as I recall&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;John Wilson published/edited a magazine in early 70&amp;#39;s calle  flute</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/8415252044012045440'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/8415252044012045440'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html?showComment=1266598827656#c8415252044012045440' title=''/><author><name>Ed Baker</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11285310130024785775</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_SpwtdDR0utk/Sv8169iwWuI/AAAAAAAAAJ8/MzdIl_zrqtc/S220/edinstudio1998'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-852509421050866290' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/852509421050866290' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-771816173"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="February 19, 2010"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3971038126356457369</id><published>2010-02-19T10:45:13.892-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-19T10:45:13.892-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Williams had a more crucial influence on Creeley a...</title><summary type='text'>Williams had a more crucial influence on Creeley and perhaps Ginsberg&amp;#39;s line than European models but as you might enjoy Creeley&amp;#39;s poem Hart Crane, if you think Robinson retained a more crucial effect on his form than WCW, Reverdy, and Mallarme we&amp;#39;ll have to agree to disagree.  People who cite Robinson rather than Williams as an influence on Creeley are more likely to be anonymous, </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/3971038126356457369'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/3971038126356457369'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html?showComment=1266594313892#c3971038126356457369' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-852509421050866290' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/852509421050866290' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="February 19, 2010"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4572444858884941700</id><published>2010-02-19T09:33:43.670-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-19T09:33:43.670-05:00</updated><title type='text'>How does this add up to &amp;quot;Americanizing Europe...</title><summary type='text'>How does this add up to &amp;quot;Americanizing European models&amp;quot;? He read widely. Lots of different writers incluenced him. We knew that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When I saw Creeley read fifteen years ago he spoke about how much Edwin Arlington Robinson meant to him as a young poet. His essays make it clear how important a figure like Hart Crane was to him. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your formulation was too strong, missed </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/4572444858884941700'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/4572444858884941700'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html?showComment=1266590023670#c4572444858884941700' title=''/><author><name>Not Lon</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17639765066370206564</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-852509421050866290' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/852509421050866290' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-956570955"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="February 19, 2010"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2548705920152943902</id><published>2010-02-18T21:29:33.877-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-18T21:29:33.877-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Rexroth cited Mallarme and Reverdy as influences o...</title><summary type='text'>Rexroth cited Mallarme and Reverdy as influences on Creeley, who is the most American-influenced on that list save for possibly Eigner.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/2548705920152943902'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/2548705920152943902'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html?showComment=1266546573877#c2548705920152943902' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-852509421050866290' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/852509421050866290' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="February 18, 2010"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-2267768494811170097</id><published>2010-02-18T14:52:52.133-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-18T14:52:52.133-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Sorry, harryG, to open a whole can of worms here, ...</title><summary type='text'>Sorry, harryG, to open a whole can of worms here, but I don&amp;#39;t think an American poet influenced by the Elizabethans, Jacobeans and the Romantics is &amp;quot;Americanizing European models&amp;quot;. That&amp;#39;s our tradition, too. It&amp;#39;s a language thing. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Awaiting howls...</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/2267768494811170097'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/2267768494811170097'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html?showComment=1266522772133#c2267768494811170097' title=''/><author><name>Not Lon</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17639765066370206564</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-852509421050866290' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/852509421050866290' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-956570955"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="February 18, 2010"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7229975360677973308</id><published>2010-02-18T13:01:57.585-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-18T13:01:57.585-05:00</updated><title type='text'></title><summary type='text'>This comment has been removed by the author.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/7229975360677973308'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/7229975360677973308'/><author><name>Not Lon</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17639765066370206564</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-852509421050866290' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/852509421050866290' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-956570955"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="February 18, 2010"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8316510637043311393</id><published>2010-02-18T05:55:47.342-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-18T05:55:47.342-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Not Lon cd also look at Bob Creeley in the light o...</title><summary type='text'>Not Lon cd also look at Bob Creeley in the light of Elizabethan and Jacobean (English) lyric ((we Brits are in Yerp, you know)) -  Campion is often cited, but there are lots more.  Here&amp;#39;s RC himself in a 1995 interview:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;I loved Herrick, I loved the scale and deftness of his sounds. I loved, what little I knew of Campion, I loved... I loved that whole sort of cluster... I </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/8316510637043311393'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/8316510637043311393'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html?showComment=1266490547342#c8316510637043311393' title=''/><author><name>harryg</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/04184350321693687780</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-852509421050866290' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/852509421050866290' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1548378123"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="February 18, 2010"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4215616113184270607</id><published>2010-02-17T22:36:02.409-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-17T22:36:02.409-05:00</updated><title type='text'>@anonymous, Go to the anonymous library and ask th...</title><summary type='text'>@anonymous, Go to the anonymous library and ask the anonymous librarian for Creeley&amp;#39;s After Mallarme and Spicer&amp;#39;s A Fake Novel About the Life of Rimbaud and say please again</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/4215616113184270607'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/4215616113184270607'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html?showComment=1266464162409#c4215616113184270607' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-852509421050866290' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/852509421050866290' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="February 17, 2010"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4010880948540066050</id><published>2010-02-17T18:37:24.497-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-17T18:37:24.497-05:00</updated><title type='text'>You could think of it as tree cover, or canopy.&#xa;&#xa;I...</title><summary type='text'>You could think of it as tree cover, or canopy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If there are no trees above or not many the younger trees can grow toward the light.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But when there&amp;#39;s a lot of canopy, younger trees may find it harder to reach for the sky.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Especially if they are working on another aesthetic than the one that&amp;#39;s recognized.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;WWII provided a breakage in the canopy. </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/4010880948540066050'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/4010880948540066050'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html?showComment=1266449844497#c4010880948540066050' title=''/><author><name>Kirby Olson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-852509421050866290' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/852509421050866290' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1262696662"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="February 17, 2010"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-710119563246425779</id><published>2010-02-17T17:06:54.658-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-17T17:06:54.658-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Spicer and Creeley were Americanizing European mod...</title><summary type='text'>Spicer and Creeley were Americanizing European models? Please.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/710119563246425779'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/710119563246425779'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html?showComment=1266444414658#c710119563246425779' title=''/><author><name>Not Lon</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/17639765066370206564</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-852509421050866290' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/852509421050866290' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-956570955"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="February 17, 2010"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1718308635850133259</id><published>2010-02-17T16:07:29.769-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-17T16:07:29.769-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Forgot to add that Robert Peters did serve in WWII...</title><summary type='text'>Forgot to add that Robert Peters did serve in WWII.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/1718308635850133259'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/1718308635850133259'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html?showComment=1266440849769#c1718308635850133259' title=''/><author><name>pam</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15052557146822827887</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-852509421050866290' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/852509421050866290' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1393650286"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="February 17, 2010"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-6784185998123776088</id><published>2010-02-17T15:59:42.357-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-17T15:59:42.357-05:00</updated><title type='text'>1924 - Robert Peters, the great poet and critic. H...</title><summary type='text'>1924 - Robert Peters, the great poet and critic. He belongs on your list.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/6784185998123776088'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/6784185998123776088'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html?showComment=1266440382357#c6784185998123776088' title=''/><author><name>pam</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15052557146822827887</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-852509421050866290' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/852509421050866290' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1393650286"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="February 17, 2010"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-5616684080332906366</id><published>2010-02-17T14:20:39.670-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-17T14:20:39.670-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I was born April 19, 1941.  I had wante4d to be bo...</title><summary type='text'>I was born April 19, 1941.  I had wante4d to be born in 1940 so&amp;#39;s I cold manage more-better the ensueing decades and get into one of them anthologies!  or at least be a foot-note somewhere!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;full moon&lt;br /&gt;integrating&lt;br /&gt;w all circumstances</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/5616684080332906366'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/5616684080332906366'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html?showComment=1266434439670#c5616684080332906366' title=''/><author><name>Ed Baker</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/11285310130024785775</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_SpwtdDR0utk/Sv8169iwWuI/AAAAAAAAAJ8/MzdIl_zrqtc/S220/edinstudio1998'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-852509421050866290' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/852509421050866290' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-771816173"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="February 17, 2010"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3971011370051325213</id><published>2010-02-17T13:39:30.195-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-17T13:39:30.195-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I can guess what&amp;#39;s coming next here, or should...</title><summary type='text'>I can guess what&amp;#39;s coming next here, or should come next, to complete the explication of the thesis:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;a list of those poets, at least those who&amp;#39;ve so far published, born circa 1976.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I mean, it&amp;#39;s a bold claim, about poets born 1926 versus 1976 (or years thereabout, and you may be right, but let&amp;#39;s see the list.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/3971011370051325213'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/3971011370051325213'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html?showComment=1266431970195#c3971011370051325213' title=''/><author><name>Steven Fama</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/13733977161680651117</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-852509421050866290' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/852509421050866290' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-862679579"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="February 17, 2010"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-9001715730192996552</id><published>2010-02-17T13:35:36.701-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-17T13:35:36.701-05:00</updated><title type='text'>New American Poetry and Abstract Expressionism cam...</title><summary type='text'>New American Poetry and Abstract Expressionism came at a time when Europe was bombed out and American art and poetry was becoming a focal point. Seven of that impressive 1925-27 contingent were Americanizing European models: Spicer (After Lorca), O&amp;#39;Hara (Mayakovsky etc), Ginsberg (from Carl Solomon), Koch (French modernism), Creeley (After Lorca), Ashbery (Europe), and Lamantia (Surrealism). </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/9001715730192996552'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/9001715730192996552'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html?showComment=1266431736701#c9001715730192996552' title=''/><author><name>Ian Keenan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16596558654735506132</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-852509421050866290' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/852509421050866290' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1591342472"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="February 17, 2010"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-7529822690899393100</id><published>2010-02-17T13:16:37.900-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-17T13:16:37.900-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I&amp;#39;ve reworded that passage to make clear that ...</title><summary type='text'>I&amp;#39;ve reworded that passage to make clear that I meant that none of the 3 writers Barber reviews served. Ammons &amp;amp; O&amp;#39;Hara got in at the tail end, just like my father.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/7529822690899393100'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/7529822690899393100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html?showComment=1266430597900#c7529822690899393100' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/silliman/silliman2a.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-852509421050866290' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/852509421050866290' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="February 17, 2010"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-1092590367878841236</id><published>2010-02-17T12:39:09.940-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-17T12:39:09.940-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Also born in 1926, W. D. Snodgrass.</title><summary type='text'>Also born in 1926, W. D. Snodgrass.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/1092590367878841236'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/1092590367878841236'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html?showComment=1266428349940#c1092590367878841236' title=''/><author><name>Halvard Johnson</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01464580122014170701</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_W4N1E5s3nXo/SGaeLwGqs9I/AAAAAAAAAKM/2-8Xs63G42k/S220/51DrSbBAPVL._SS500_.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-852509421050866290' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/852509421050866290' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1589256002"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="February 17, 2010"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-3983494431809747331</id><published>2010-02-17T12:07:01.285-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-17T12:07:01.285-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Great post, Ron: smart and closely argued.  Thanks...</title><summary type='text'>Great post, Ron: smart and closely argued.  Thanks for it.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/3983494431809747331'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/3983494431809747331'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html?showComment=1266426421285#c3983494431809747331' title=''/><author><name>Michael Theune</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/08121953357805380434</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-852509421050866290' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/852509421050866290' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-971320363"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="February 17, 2010"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-713794713739320379</id><published>2010-02-17T11:55:01.102-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-17T11:55:01.102-05:00</updated><title type='text'>O&amp;#39;Hara, Schuyler, Ammons all served in the mil...</title><summary type='text'>O&amp;#39;Hara, Schuyler, Ammons all served in the military during WWII. Koch was in the army. Or am I also misreading what you&amp;#39;re saying?</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/713794713739320379'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/713794713739320379'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html?showComment=1266425701102#c713794713739320379' title=''/><author><name>Michael</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15639031912135091927</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PotBGB08_vA/SOuufgqJTAI/AAAAAAAAALk/RmgJLOBjuUY/S220/mad_song_schiavo_cover.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-852509421050866290' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/852509421050866290' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-179247073"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="February 17, 2010"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-8166520355583711280</id><published>2010-02-17T11:35:43.249-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-17T11:35:43.249-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Mary Jo,&#xa;&#xa;you are misreading the list. It is not a...</title><summary type='text'>Mary Jo,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;you are misreading the list. It is not a list of those who served, but of the poets born in those years who were substantial enough for Hayden Carruth to include them in his anthology. I was expanding it to other poets who were also publishing during that same period, including Kerouac, Jack Gilbert, Jimmy Schuyler &amp;amp; Bobbie Louise Hawkins.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/8166520355583711280'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/8166520355583711280'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html?showComment=1266424543249#c8166520355583711280' title=''/><author><name>Ron</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09250950725876683923</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/silliman/silliman2a.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-852509421050866290' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/852509421050866290' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-660918411"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="February 17, 2010"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4327622497760416485</id><published>2010-02-17T10:09:08.520-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-17T10:09:08.520-05:00</updated><title type='text'>There&amp;#39;s something very surreal about demarcati...</title><summary type='text'>There&amp;#39;s something very surreal about demarcating voices according to year(s) of birth.  There&amp;#39;s a natural tension between the phenomenon of the individual and the tendency to group people according to various criteria.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Creeley, for instance, might have begun as a traditional poet, educated at Harvard, with a strong grounding in the classics.  Despite being attracted to Pound </summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/4327622497760416485'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/4327622497760416485'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html?showComment=1266419348520#c4327622497760416485' title=''/><author><name>Curtis Faville</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-852509421050866290' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/852509421050866290' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1900230786"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="February 17, 2010"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-4849627905544839842</id><published>2010-02-17T09:26:56.998-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-17T09:26:56.998-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The  &amp;quot;list&amp;quot; correctly excluded Kerouac w...</title><summary type='text'>The  &amp;quot;list&amp;quot; correctly excluded Kerouac who was discharged from the Navy as schizophrenic and subsequently served in the Merchant Marines.</summary><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/4849627905544839842'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/852509421050866290/comments/default/4849627905544839842'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html?showComment=1266416816998#c4849627905544839842' title=''/><author><name>Mary Jo Malo</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/18148588310769074332</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='https://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2010/02/courtesy-of-estate-of-allen-ginsberg.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3738579.post-852509421050866290' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3738579/posts/default/852509421050866290' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1737322265"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="February 17, 2010"/></entry></feed>